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Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life with
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Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. Sororities and
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Speaker 2: fraternities go hand in hand, the parties, the drama, the situationships.
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Speaker 2: But today we're flipping the script. We're putting fraternity boys
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Speaker 2: in the hot seat and having them answer the questions
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Speaker 2: sorority girls have always wanted to ask, maybe but maybe
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Speaker 2: never dared to. You guys are ruining my thing. Let's
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Speaker 2: get into it, all.
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Speaker 3: Right, girls, we're ready.
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Speaker 4: All I ask is that you call out the boys
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Speaker 4: that you want to answer the question. If it's for
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Speaker 4: the group, you can say that. I think individual questions
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Speaker 4: are better answered, though, especially in this group.
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Speaker 3: Take it away.
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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm a kappa Kapa gamma. You can name your storty.
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Speaker 5: But so here's the question. When we do this show,
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Speaker 5: the whole trick with this show is it's anonymous. So
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Speaker 5: this is a harder question for you guys, because you're
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Speaker 5: not anonymous. We know who you are. My question is
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Speaker 5: for the fraternity boys, how sacred or secretive do you
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Speaker 5: keep the things in the fraternity So, for example, we
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Speaker 5: on this podcast reveal things, but it's because we're anonymous.
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Speaker 5: So my question for the four of you that were
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Speaker 5: in fraternities, would you reveal details of initiation? Would you
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Speaker 5: tell me what phi alpha means?
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Speaker 3: Like?
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Speaker 5: All these secrets that you have, how secret are they?
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Speaker 5: Do you tell your whys? Do you give your wife
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Speaker 5: the handshake or tell her what happened? Was it a
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Speaker 5: banana in the toilet?
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Speaker 6: All that stuff?
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Speaker 5: How sacred is it?
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Speaker 3: There?
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Speaker 7: Loves a banana in the toilet?
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Speaker 6: The toilet trick.
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Speaker 8: I think that when you're in college and shortly after college,
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Speaker 8: things are very secretive, but once you start to grow
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Speaker 8: up and realize it's.
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Speaker 3: You start to divulge a little bit more. That would
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Speaker 3: be my guess.
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Speaker 7: I've got a feeling that we all have the same handshake,
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Speaker 7: and we all thought it was really cool, but it's
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Speaker 7: all the exact same one.
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Speaker 6: That's pretty true. I thought that's really true.
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Speaker 7: Proven you show me the GDI handshake.
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Speaker 4: So are you saying to answer that question? If somebody
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Speaker 4: in this room said, Hey, I really have always been
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Speaker 4: curious about this fraternities so and so, would you answer
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Speaker 4: it anonymously?
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Speaker 3: Yes?
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Speaker 5: If I asked you reveal something that happened during initiation,
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Speaker 5: would you reveal it?
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Speaker 6: Yes, reveal it anonymously.
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Speaker 7: It was Bred Adams, like, do.
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Speaker 5: You guys have a password? Like we have a password.
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't reveal it on the air. No, I would
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Speaker 5: not reveal it anonymously or not.
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Speaker 3: I had to.
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Speaker 8: All of us pledges had to walk around with p
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Speaker 8: qs and ms at all times.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what a p Q and MS.
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Speaker 8: Well, I'm going to tell you you.
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Speaker 3: You had to walk around with.
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Speaker 8: P I forgot what that was, but I'm going to
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Speaker 8: get back that qs are for quarters for the laundry machine,
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Speaker 8: so an actor could always find you on any part
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Speaker 8: of campus, fraternity whatever, ask you for quarters, immediately m
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Speaker 8: for matches back when people smoked peace are. Yeah, you had,
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Speaker 8: but you have to walk around and you had to
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Speaker 8: always carry p qs and m's, and no matter where
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Speaker 8: you were, no matter what time.
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Speaker 3: Of day, if an active asked you, you had to
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Speaker 3: show it.
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Speaker 7: We had to do a thing called a name list.
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Speaker 7: Do you guys know about name lists?
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Speaker 3: Really?
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Speaker 7: So it was every active on a list, and you
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Speaker 7: had to go to every active and talk to them,
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Speaker 7: meet them, converse with them, and they had to check
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Speaker 7: you off. You had to get everyone signed before you
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Speaker 7: could become an active good one.
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Speaker 6: Juicy Bob, I got nothing because you don't want to
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Speaker 6: reveal it.
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Speaker 9: No, we so my pledge class. We are pledge guy.
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Speaker 9: The pledge leader, trainer Trainer has passed away. Well, and
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Speaker 9: I and I loved him. His name was Jeff Slaboda.
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Speaker 9: All right, wonderful guy rests in peace. Crazy but he
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Speaker 9: he He nicknamed our pledge class the vegetables for no reason,
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Speaker 9: and he gave us all a vegetable nickname.
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Speaker 6: Mine was the green Pepper.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 7: I wanted to guess, not making it up.
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Speaker 6: I wish I were, and we would have to.
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Speaker 7: I will pay this though.
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Speaker 9: We had two guys in the pledge class who we
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Speaker 9: still only call.
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Speaker 6: Them by their vegetable name. Okay, what are their names?
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Speaker 3: Hold on, let me guess.
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Speaker 5: Okay, were you in the doorkey fraternity?
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Speaker 7: No?
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Speaker 3: Hold on.
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Speaker 6: I had to carry a vege.
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Speaker 7: I had to carry this vegetable with me at all times. Okay,
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Speaker 7: green pepper gets kind of I got to.
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Speaker 3: I got to.
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Speaker 7: All right, one you might be like, that's a fruit,
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Speaker 7: but whatever, tomato and the other one celery.
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Speaker 6: First of all, I love your guesses.
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Speaker 7: Okay, here's as well.
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Speaker 9: Uh the one guy is yam and is still yam.
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Speaker 6: The other the P the P do you sing? You
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Speaker 6: know what the pe single.
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Speaker 5: Yes actually was before I passed the mic onto the
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Speaker 5: other sorority girls. Is there any burning question you guys
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Speaker 5: want to know about sororities.
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Speaker 3: That you don't know because I might reveal it.
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Speaker 7: I got one ready.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 7: At my school, men were never allowed to come in
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Speaker 7: the sorority house. Was there ever an opportunity for you
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Speaker 7: to get guys into the sorority house?
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Speaker 5: So I can only speak for Kapa Kapagama, but we
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Speaker 5: were allowed to have boys on our floor, on the
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Speaker 5: bedroom floor, in the bedrooms until ten pm. But you
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Speaker 5: did have to say when you brought the boy down
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Speaker 5: the hallway man on, so that nobody would like come
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Speaker 5: out of the bathroom with like their towel on that.
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Speaker 6: So no one like a naked pillow fight. We never
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Speaker 6: had naked pillow fight. That's absolute bullshit.
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Speaker 3: It's just not true.
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Speaker 6: I think you all have no I am.
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Speaker 5: Going to tell you the truth. We didn't I have
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Speaker 5: naked pillow fights, but you could bring boys.
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Speaker 7: But I do hope that like when you climbaxed, you said, anyone.
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Speaker 3: Ever stayed the night in the sorority house?
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Speaker 8: No?
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Speaker 7: I never did I have what sorority? Bob over here?
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Speaker 6: Were more than one?
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Speaker 3: Can you name?
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Speaker 2: Was?
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Speaker 7: Can you name a couple of the one was?
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Speaker 6: While I was in college?
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Speaker 3: Was?
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Speaker 7: Perhaps it got weird.
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Speaker 5: It got weird that Bob went to a sorty house
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Speaker 5: when he was out of together.
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Speaker 7: Respected except burning question.
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Speaker 5: You've always want to know about a storty before we passed.
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Speaker 6: It on to that.
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Speaker 3: That was a good question. I like that.
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Speaker 5: That was Okay, I won't say your name, but what
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Speaker 5: is your sorority?
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Speaker 6: Wait a minute, if we have to be, shouldn't they? Okay?
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Speaker 10: I was in I was in theater Top Alpha Beta.
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Speaker 10: And my question to you guys, as fraternity boys, is
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Speaker 10: what in your eyes defines the top sorority houses? Like,
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Speaker 10: how would you classify the top sorority houses and vice versa?
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Speaker 10: How would you classify a top house as a fraternity?
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Speaker 9: Academics for the ladies, Yeah, clearly, totally kidding.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what are we talking about? Aout?
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Speaker 8: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: I like that. That's like a joke.
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Speaker 4: And we're talking about college here, and you're like, that's
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Speaker 4: not even that was even considered. It was like a
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Speaker 4: how fun were they at parties when you invite? How
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Speaker 4: many showed up, how many like intermingled? And it wasn't
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Speaker 4: that they were just like the best looking, but they
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Speaker 4: would come and they would have a good time.
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Speaker 7: That was always did you guys do day parties?
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I feel like.
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Speaker 7: That's like a really good barometer. Yeah, right, like if
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Speaker 7: like the date because date parties, at least in my college,
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Speaker 7: it was just one fraternity.
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Speaker 3: One sorority exchange.
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Speaker 7: Okay, well at my school is called a date party.
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Speaker 7: I don't know to tell you, but like when I
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Speaker 7: when we did that, we'd be like this sorority sucks,
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Speaker 7: or like we be.
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Speaker 3: Like they're awesome.
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Speaker 7: It's just so much fun.
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Speaker 3: They had nothing to do with.
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Speaker 7: Like their academics. It was more to do with like
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Speaker 7: how fun they were, Like.
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Speaker 3: How yeah, that's it.
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Speaker 8: Let me ask you this, if you we had an
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Speaker 8: exchange or a date party and you had a lesser
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Speaker 8: hot sorority, what would the turnout be from your sorority fraternity?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's a good question.
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Speaker 3: Not strong typically, I think now.
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Speaker 7: There's always one in there.
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Speaker 3: Really, I want to say something real quick as a GDI.
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Speaker 7: Okay, literally, which by the way, sounds like an STV.
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Speaker 3: Ever since I got my GDI cured.
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Speaker 11: Okay, and I hate to say this, especially on Dirty
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Speaker 11: Rush podcast, but literally everything you guys are all saying,
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Speaker 11: I just roll my eyes so hard into the back
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Speaker 11: of my head.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, get over yourselves, you people. Come on.
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Speaker 11: It's so frustrating from an independent perspective to be like,
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Speaker 11: you guys are walking around like freaking bat weevils, like
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Speaker 11: fucking elbows out, shoulders back, just being like.
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Speaker 6: We're so much, we we're so much, We're so much.
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Speaker 11: Better than all you guys that aren't in the fraternities
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Speaker 11: and the superberties and sitting back here having just like
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Speaker 11: laugh along. It just makes me feel sick. Okay, and
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Speaker 11: I I can't do it anymore.
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Speaker 3: And I'm out here. Yeah, next question, no one else?
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Speaker 10: Okay, I was in say to tell Alpha and I
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Speaker 10: want to know Osquells and Ben who in this room
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Speaker 10: you guys think had the best RIZ in college?
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Speaker 3: A good question.
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Speaker 6: What's what's the best?
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Speaker 5: Uh?
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Speaker 7: Do you know?
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Speaker 6: I think I'm drinking a I don't know.
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Speaker 7: Riz is short for charsma. Well that's awfully zero, there's zero.
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Speaker 7: I am an answer for this, not to I don't
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Speaker 7: want you to jump on me. I don't want you
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Speaker 7: to jump like my answer.
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Speaker 8: Yeah no, I just didn't want you to do it
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Speaker 8: because then I feel bad about it.
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Speaker 7: My brother did some good work back in the day.
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Speaker 7: He had a lot of res.
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Speaker 3: Is it true.
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Speaker 8: I have no idea where the story's going. There is
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Speaker 8: no story. I'm just saying that he was his magic.
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Speaker 8: He was a cocksman. If you will, he was, wasn't he?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see it.
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Speaker 6: I can see it.
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Speaker 3: I can see it.
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Speaker 8: When you show up for your first day at the
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Speaker 8: fraternity and your dad, being an obg y n, sends
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Speaker 8: a box of one hundred condoms, you become pretty popular,
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Speaker 8: you know.
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Speaker 4: You know, we all obviously are connected through a show
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Speaker 4: that was on television. And before I ever met this person,
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Speaker 4: there was this like rumor that would go around about
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Speaker 4: how successful they were in and uh I know.
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Speaker 3: And.
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Speaker 4: Successful they were, and how charismatic they were, and how
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Speaker 4: they were known to have laid beside the most people
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Speaker 4: during their time on the show, and.
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Speaker 3: That's Bob Guiney, and Bob Guiney is on.
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Speaker 4: Has has been the same guy in college, and we
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Speaker 4: talked about it last episode, and it should be noted
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Speaker 4: not only was Bob Guinea who he is today, who's
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Speaker 4: lovable and kind and funny, he was also a quarterback
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Speaker 4: at Michigan State.
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Speaker 3: He did not struggle.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's also because Andrew Firestone isn't here.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I was gonna say my answer to the Andrew fire star.
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Speaker 7: You are the best of all of us. You are
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Speaker 7: so good to be around.
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Speaker 6: Thank you, pal, thank you.
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Speaker 7: Hold on, hold on, holda. I have a follow up
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Speaker 7: question of that. You asked that it was a great question,
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Speaker 7: was it you?
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Speaker 3: Oh?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was the Zeta Tel Alpha.
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Speaker 7: Who do you think has the most riz?
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Speaker 10: I kind of feel like from the stories tonight, either
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Speaker 10: Wells or Dean.
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Speaker 6: The two dumbest guys here.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so our question is on behalf of the sorority
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Speaker 1: girls is does it make a difference if a girl
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Speaker 1: does the whole song and dance of waiting for three
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Speaker 1: dates to finally sleep with a fraternity guy or if
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Speaker 1: she doesn't on the first night. Do you like a
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Speaker 1: girl more or less if she waits?
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Speaker 6: This is for Wells.
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Speaker 8: They got everyone quiet.
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Speaker 3: It's a good question.
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Speaker 6: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I think that it.
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Speaker 7: Really just depends on like the relationship that you have
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Speaker 7: with that person, because I've had like, I've had both,
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Speaker 7: and they've both been like meaningful and like good where
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Speaker 7: it's like I had to wait a long time and
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Speaker 7: I love that and then it was like hot and
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Speaker 7: fast and it lasted for a long time. So I
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Speaker 7: don't know, I.
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Speaker 3: Don't know what.
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Speaker 7: I don't know what the right answer is. I think
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Speaker 7: you just have to like be honest with yourself, but
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Speaker 7: like what's happening.
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Speaker 8: So remember when you're eighteen or nineteen and answer the
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Speaker 8: question properly. Who When I was eighteen or nineteen, that
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Speaker 8: was what would you prefer the first night or waiting
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Speaker 8: three days? Three dates?
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Speaker 7: Honestly, I think, like what are we looking for here?
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Speaker 7: Are we're looking for like a long term relationship?
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Speaker 6: Yeah? Are we looking for a Okay?
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Speaker 1: But no, if a girl wants something more serious, should
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Speaker 1: she make and I would like.
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Speaker 7: To wait a little bit?
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Speaker 3: Okay, I think that would be more.
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Speaker 7: Hello, I was in Alpha FI and this is for
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Speaker 7: all of you as a guy.
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Speaker 4: Would you rather sleep at your house or would you
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Speaker 4: rather sleep at the girls house?
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Speaker 6: My house?
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Speaker 3: My house, my house, my house? Girls house, and you.
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Speaker 7: Know why he hasn't changed his sheets in three months? Sorry?
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Speaker 3: Still you why it's the girl's house.
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Speaker 11: The sheets are always cleaner, obviously, the mattress is nine
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Speaker 11: out of ten times more comfort.
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Speaker 7: There's no bedbugs, but they got way more pillows than
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Speaker 7: I do.
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Speaker 6: The real answer is because you can leave.
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Speaker 3: I was gonna get there.
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Speaker 11: I do have a question, yes, as a as a
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Speaker 11: non fraternity brother, and I'm so sorry not to be
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Speaker 11: in the brotherhood with you guys, biggest regret in my life.
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Speaker 7: I think, actually you do hate it that you were
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Speaker 7: in a fraternity.
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Speaker 11: No, you know, I'd like to be against the crane. Yeah,
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Speaker 11: of course, I've got a quo. No, I actually I
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Speaker 11: have a question. Some of my best friends were in
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Speaker 11: fraternities in college that I met later after and all
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Speaker 11: that stuff, and I love them all to death. You
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Speaker 11: guys are all very much included in that sentiment as well.
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Speaker 11: Is there anything when I look back to those college days,
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Speaker 11: at least in two thousand and nine to twenty thirteen,
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Speaker 11: when I was in college fourteen because I was a
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Speaker 11: five year program as well wells, I feel like there
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Speaker 11: was always that Maybe stigma is not the right word,
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Speaker 11: but it seemed like fraternity brothers in my interpretation of
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Speaker 11: that word, meant just getting as many notches in your
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Speaker 11: belt as possible. And my question for you guys, and
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Speaker 11: I know it's a broad spectrum, right like Ben to
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Speaker 11: Brett to Wells to Bob to Zach whatever. I know
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Speaker 11: it's a very broad spectrum. But is there anything that
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Speaker 11: you guys can do to answer or fulfill my curiosity
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Speaker 11: of being able to dispel the rumor of just trying
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Speaker 11: to get a notch in your belt?
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Speaker 3: Because that's what I always saw fraternity brothers. Ass No to.
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Speaker 8: What I said earlier, I mean I went to college
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Speaker 8: way earlier than two thousand and nine. Well, I still
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Speaker 8: have I Like I said, I still have these guys
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Speaker 8: that are some of my best friends that I see
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Speaker 8: every single year, And there's some weight to that. I
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Speaker 8: understand that there is a stigma to fraternities and the
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Speaker 8: stuffiness or the brownness or whatever you want.
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Speaker 3: To call it.
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Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, I have ten
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Speaker 8: of my best friends that we went through all this
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Speaker 8: together and we formed a bond, and so I think
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Speaker 8: that that is pretty special.
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Speaker 3: And so I don't think it's about just notches in
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Speaker 3: your belt or the part use or whatever. As you
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Speaker 3: go through life, you will realize it was. It's much
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Speaker 3: more than that.
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Speaker 4: I had a girlfriend for my freshman year the my
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Speaker 4: senior year too, So like there was like there was
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Speaker 4: never this idea of like I think like this the
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Speaker 4: movies would be like the High five, like, oh you're
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Speaker 4: what at fifty now?
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Speaker 3: Cool for you? That was not a thing.
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Speaker 4: And I think go back to what we were talking
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Speaker 4: about before we can sit here and laugh and joke.
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Speaker 4: None of us were as cool as well, like in
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Speaker 4: our minds we are talking about now. It was like
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Speaker 4: a It wasn't like coming easy made for Bob Guinea.
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Speaker 4: He was a quarterback, handsome and funny and charismatic. For
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Speaker 4: all of us, we're working like really hard just to
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Speaker 4: make friends.
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Speaker 3: I think I.
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Speaker 11: Will say too, to add to to kind of piggyback
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Speaker 11: off my own question. Your guys' answers is I've got
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Speaker 11: a lot of friends that I met post college, right
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Speaker 11: that I know we get along so well, so much
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Speaker 11: in common, and we want to spend as much time
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Speaker 11: as we possibly can together. But even going even though
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Speaker 11: that all is true, I won't be as close to
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Speaker 11: that person as he is to his fraternity brother, only
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Speaker 11: because they went through like what you guys are saying,
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Speaker 11: you know what I mean, Like there is an unspoken bond.
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Speaker 11: I think that maybe forms a friendship that can't be
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Speaker 11: overpassed by any other experience that you might get later
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Speaker 11: in life, whatever it might be.
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Speaker 3: I don't think that's true. I don't think that's true,
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Speaker 3: but I think Okay.
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Speaker 11: Okay, okay, then let me let me restate that. I
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Speaker 11: guess what I'm trying to say, then, maybe is it
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Speaker 11: does give you a very good head start, right at least?
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Speaker 3: Sure? Okay, because I've seen that.
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Speaker 11: I've seen that with my friends, like one of my
21:42
Speaker 11: best friends who I love and adore, and I know
21:46
Speaker 11: it's mutual.
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Speaker 3: At least I hope it is.
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Speaker 11: I love you too, I know that like this guy
21:53
Speaker 11: that he complains about or or whatever, it will always
21:57
Speaker 11: be his best best friend, right, And I think that
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Speaker 11: there's something inherently special about forming those friendships at that
22:06
Speaker 11: especially at that stage of your life too, when you're
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Speaker 11: that young and trying to branch out and meet new
22:12
Speaker 11: people that will last for a lot longer than any
22:15
Speaker 11: other friendship.
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Speaker 10: Might you know, how does the Bachelor Nation brotherhood compare
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Speaker 10: to fraternity some parallels.
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Speaker 9: I was actually, I'm glad you have six I was
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Speaker 9: gonna say, you know, I think, yeah, you you do
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Speaker 9: have some people that you meet at different stages of
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Speaker 9: your life that you remain super close with because of
22:46
Speaker 9: experiences that you shared. That could be a fraternity, That
22:49
Speaker 9: could be sports, that could be you know, a billion
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Speaker 9: different work, It could be a bunch of different things.
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Speaker 9: But you know, to that point, I think, yeah, like,
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Speaker 9: you go through something weird, like a dating game show
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Speaker 9: where you're handing out flowers or receiving flowers and it's
23:04
Speaker 9: kind of a fed up situation too, and your friends
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Speaker 9: around that, like peripherally around that become part of it too,
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Speaker 9: just like Brett's part of that, even though Brett wasn't
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Speaker 9: on the show because of Wells. I think you have
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Speaker 9: a different bond with different people at different stages in
23:19
Speaker 9: the game. And it doesn't mean one stronger or less
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Speaker 9: stronger than another. It just means it's at a different
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Speaker 9: stage in the game. And I think as you're older,
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Speaker 9: you have more of a choice as to whether you
23:31
Speaker 9: want to be a part of it or not. So
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Speaker 9: sometimes I would think the friendships you make later in
23:35
Speaker 9: life are probably more valuable than the ones you hang
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Speaker 9: on to from high school or college, because.
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Speaker 6: They're the ones you're really choosing.
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Speaker 9: When you have kind of you give yourself the ability
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Speaker 9: to make a choice.
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Speaker 4: That's be on a soapbox, But anytime you enter into
23:49
Speaker 4: something that's uncomfortable or unfamiliar, typically the best stories come
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Speaker 4: from that, and when you can share that with others
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Speaker 4: who are also uncomfortable and unfamiliar with the situation, when
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Speaker 4: you get to the other side, no matter what the
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Speaker 4: other side looks like, you can look back and say,
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Speaker 4: we bonded through that same thing with the bachelor, right,
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Speaker 4: I mean there I don't know or I don't hang
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Speaker 4: out with every bachelor that's existed for many reasons, but
24:15
Speaker 4: there's some that like I really love, who are friends
24:18
Speaker 4: of mine who maybe once in every ten meetings that
24:22
Speaker 4: we have, the bachelor will get brought up and we'll
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Speaker 4: talk about, oh, yeah, you did that, I did that.
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Speaker 4: That's we can relate. I think it's the same thing
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Speaker 4: with like college and fraternity life is. As Brett was saying,
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Speaker 4: you went to Kansas not knowing anybody and it was uncomfortable.
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Speaker 4: Was unfamiliar, but through that you have buddies that walked
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Speaker 4: alongside you and now like you're close to them.
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Speaker 3: It's the same thing with the show. Yeah, but it's different.
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Speaker 7: Though thousands of people have been Fiji's thousands of people
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Speaker 7: have been symbolicized.
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Speaker 3: Thousands of people have been on the show.
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Speaker 7: Now we're maybe maybe fifteen hundred people have been on
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Speaker 7: The Bachelor.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean it's.
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Speaker 7: A very small well let's say a thousand.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
25:06
Speaker 7: I remember Alon saying he was like, you're in a
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Speaker 7: weird thing of like only a few people have ever
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Speaker 7: experienced this thing, and I think we're all like, we
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Speaker 7: have this weird trauma bond all.
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Speaker 3: Of us.
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Speaker 7: From this thing in a good way, in a bad way.
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Speaker 11: Whatever I got, Okay, So here's my interpretation of that.
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Speaker 3: Because I know you guys have been dying the year.
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Speaker 11: I obviously don't have the fraternity experience, but I will
25:37
Speaker 11: say from from my bat from thank you Bob, from
25:40
Speaker 11: my Bachelor experience explicitly, I was on a season with
25:45
Speaker 11: thirty men, right, and I think all of us were
25:47
Speaker 11: whenever we were on the.
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Speaker 3: Bachelor, as Brad excluded.
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Speaker 11: Of course, I talked to one of those people, not
25:55
Speaker 11: even regularly, but like semi often. Right, And I don't
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Speaker 11: know how you guys function with your fraternity brothers, but
26:02
Speaker 11: I imagine that the odds of you staying in contact with
26:05
Speaker 11: your fraternity brothers is higher than a regular bachelorette contestant
26:10
Speaker 11: to stay in contact with the rest.
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Speaker 3: Like the only I have two really good.
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Speaker 11: Friends from the bachelorette, right, it's Ben and Wells and Alex.
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Speaker 11: Yes he's he's a buddy, but like, I don't talk
26:23
Speaker 11: to him nearly as much as I talk to you guys.
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Speaker 11: And I don't even talk to you guys that much. Yeah,
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Speaker 11: I guess my point is, I mean, I mean meaning
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Speaker 11: to talk to you about that. I guess my point
26:32
Speaker 11: is maybe I'm just a bad brother at the end
26:35
Speaker 11: of the day. No, my point is, it almost seems
26:39
Speaker 11: like there is less of a brotherhood when it comes
26:42
Speaker 11: to the bachelorette than there is a fraternity, at least
26:45
Speaker 11: in my experience.
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Speaker 3: Right, Like I've got I've.
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Speaker 11: Got three, three, maybe four people that I would consider
26:52
Speaker 11: really close friends that were from the bachelorette. And I
26:57
Speaker 11: bet you you would say you have more close friends
26:59
Speaker 11: from your fraternity in college. And again I'm not gonna
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Speaker 11: know for sure, but like I would assume that all
27:04
Speaker 11: of you have higher numbers than that when it comes
27:06
Speaker 11: to your fraternity life in college. And to answer your question,
27:10
Speaker 11: it just seems like in my experience, at least, you're
27:14
Speaker 11: allowed to be maybe a bit more selective as you
27:16
Speaker 11: get older. Maybe that's what it is, but I don't know. Yeah,
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Speaker 11: I mean, I think there's a thousand theories. It's formative years.
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Speaker 4: You can still I mean, you have shared things in common,
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Speaker 4: Like you can go back to basketball games, you go
27:32
Speaker 4: back to football games, you go back to tailgates, Like
27:34
Speaker 4: there's reasons to get together. And I think that's a
27:36
Speaker 4: big thing in friendships as adults is sometimes you love
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Speaker 4: somebody else, but there's not like distinct reasons to get
27:44
Speaker 4: back together. But with college there always is, like there's
27:48
Speaker 4: always that game, there's always the homecoming, there's always the
27:51
Speaker 4: tailgate that you can come back and gather again, and
27:54
Speaker 4: it just keeps you in contact. Where with the Bachelor,
27:59
Speaker 4: if we didn't have have iHeart right, it would be
28:04
Speaker 4: less and less that we'd be able to get together
28:05
Speaker 4: because all of us have our own separate lives. But
28:07
Speaker 4: this brings us back together, and so it keeps us connected,
28:09
Speaker 4: it keeps us sharing moments and stories and memories. So
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Speaker 4: I think this has done what a fraternity would do
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Speaker 4: twenty thirty years out. It brings you back together again.
28:22
Speaker 4: It's a reason to gather and.
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Speaker 7: Thanks everyone for listening to Dirty Rush the Truth about
28:28
Speaker 7: sorority life. Hey fraternity boys answering questions about sorority questions.
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Speaker 3: Trusting is see you later.
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Speaker 7: We got to stop doing this show right now. Yeah,