Latest / The Red Solo Traveler Podcast / Shea Sold You a Dog. Citi Field Sells You the City.
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- 0:08Speaker 1: So if you think back to the old days of
- 0:10Speaker 1: going to a baseball game, right, like the culinary expectations
- 0:13Speaker 1: were literally just baked into the concrete.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Oh, completely.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Like you think of Shea Stadium, you walked in, they
- 0:18Speaker 1: sold you a hot dog wrapped in foil, maybe some peanuts.
- 0:22Speaker 1: And whatever lukewarm liquid they were pouring into a cup
- 0:25Speaker 1: that day, it was just fuel. Right.
- 0:26Speaker 2: It was sustenance. You were a captive audience.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Exactly. But then you step into Citi Field, which opened
- 0:31Speaker 1: in 2009, and the whole paradigm shifts. Like this building
- 0:35Speaker 1: doesn't just sell you a hot dog. It tries to
- 0:37Speaker 1: sell you literally New York on a concourse. Yeah.
- 0:40Speaker 2: And they charge you for it.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Oh, they charge you food festival prices for the privilege.
- 0:45Speaker 1: And that is the door we're walking through today. Welcome
- 0:48Speaker 1: to the Red Solo Traveler podcast.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Glad to be here for this one.
- 0:51Speaker 1: And we are exploring this highly detailed destination food essay
- 0:55Speaker 1: from our source, Louis, because, well, the USA Today streak
- 0:59Speaker 1: is very real. Readers voted Citi Field the best stadium
- 1:04Speaker 1: food in 2023 and then best baseball stadium food from
- 1:08Speaker 1: 2024 to 2026.
- 1:10Speaker 2: What's fascinating here is that this award streak, it's actually
- 1:13Speaker 2: a setup.
- 1:13Speaker 1: A setup?
- 1:14Speaker 2: Yeah, the award is the setup and your final check
- 1:17Speaker 2: is the punchline. Because when a stadium wins best food
- 1:22Speaker 2: four years running, your instinct is to, you know, treat
- 1:25Speaker 2: it like a tasting menu.
- 1:26Speaker 1: Right. You want to try everything.
- 1:28Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:29Speaker 2: But our mission today isn't to read a catalog of
- 1:32Speaker 2: all 37 rotating items.
- 1:34Speaker 1: No, please don't.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Right. Those Taste of the City vendors, they churn constantly.
- 1:40Speaker 2: So this is a highly curated short list based on
- 1:43Speaker 2: the plates our source actually ate so you don't get robbed.
- 1:46Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you try to eat everything, you're just
- 1:49Speaker 1: going to be physically and financially immobilized by, like, the
- 1:52Speaker 1: fifth inning.
- 1:53Speaker 2: Without a doubt.
- 1:54Speaker 1: So if we aren't eating everything, where do you actually start?
- 1:57Speaker 1: I mean, you start with the heavy hitters, right? The
- 1:59Speaker 1: plates that built the park's reputation.
- 2:01Speaker 2: Yeah, the reputation plates.
- 2:02Speaker 1: And the undisputed king of that is the hot pastrami sandwich.
- 2:06Speaker 1: The sensory experience of this thing is just wild for
- 2:09Speaker 1: a ballpark.
- 2:10Speaker 2: It really is.
- 2:10Speaker 1: You're standing there, and they pull this thing. Thick brisket
- 2:14Speaker 1: and slice it right in front of you. You can
- 2:16Speaker 1: see the bark, that dark crust, and they drop it
- 2:19Speaker 1: on rye with deli mustard. And that's it. Nothing else.
- 2:23Speaker 2: Which is such a confident move.
- 2:24Speaker 1: But let's unpack this, though, because the source specifically calls
- 2:28Speaker 1: out a massive flaw here. The rye bread is untoasted
- 2:32Speaker 1: and it collapses.
- 2:33Speaker 2: It does. It completely falls apart. Right.
- 2:35Speaker 1: So you need two hands. You need speed. And if
- 2:37Speaker 1: you're a solo traveler holding a beer, it's a ticking
- 2:40Speaker 1: time bomb. So why is this still the reigning champion
- 2:45Speaker 1: if it's a structural disaster?
- 2:47Speaker 2: Well, you have to look at the mechanics of it.
- 2:48Speaker 2: That untoasted bread, it's a line speed choice. It's not
- 2:51Speaker 2: some chef's theory.
- 2:52Speaker 1: Oh, because they just have to move people through.
- 2:54Speaker 2: Exactly. If they pause to perfectly toast the rye for 50,000 people,
- 2:58Speaker 2: the line grinds to a halt. You'd miss three innings.
- 3:01Speaker 1: That's a fair point.
- 3:02Speaker 2: So despite the flaws, the meat is the argument. The
- 3:05Speaker 2: brisket is so good, it literally justifies the part. You
- 3:08Speaker 2: just accept the crumbling bread.
- 3:10Speaker 1: You just inhale it before it disintegrates.
- 3:13Speaker 2: Pretty much. But if you want actual structural integrity and,
- 3:17Speaker 2: you know, value, then you pivot to the honest favorite,
- 3:21Speaker 2: which is the sausage and peppers. Okay. Yes.
- 3:24Speaker 1: The value plate.
- 3:25Speaker 2: It is. It's not the most decorated, but it's the
- 3:27Speaker 2: one actually worth the line. It's premium sausage right off
- 3:30Speaker 2: the grill with onions and peppers on a hoagie roll
- 3:34Speaker 2: that actually holds up to the moisture.
- 3:36Speaker 1: And our source points out that getting it sweet Just
- 3:39Speaker 1: means there's no heat, right? It's not actually sugary.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Right, no heat.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:42Speaker 2: But the reason this works is because it never dies
- 3:44Speaker 2: on the grill. The line is your guarantee that it's fresh.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Ah, so a long line is actually a good thing there.
- 3:50Speaker 2: Yes, because it means high turnover.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Okay, so we have the winners. But a guide only
- 3:55Speaker 1: works if it tells you what to walk past.
- 3:56Speaker 2: The landmines.
- 3:57Speaker 1: Yeah, the landmines. And I want to name the miss
- 4:00Speaker 1: out loud right here, the Coca-Cola Corner Carne Asada Tacos.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:06Speaker 2: The ultimate red flag.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Right, because our source notes, they are ready on contact.
- 4:10Speaker 2: Which is terrifying for a taco.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Yeah, like before you even put your card away, they
- 4:14Speaker 1: hand it to you. Which means it's just been sitting there.
- 4:17Speaker 2: And it's bland. It's the fast food version of a
- 4:20Speaker 2: food truck. You absolutely should not cross the park for it.
- 4:24Speaker 1: So if we aren't crossing the park for bad tacos,
- 4:26Speaker 1: what is the reliable 2026 routing? If I don't want
- 4:30Speaker 1: to taste all 37 new things, what are the safe bets?
- 4:33Speaker 2: Well, you've got the Pat LaFrito filet mignon steak sandwich. Oh, yeah.
- 4:37Speaker 1: The one with the balsamic onion.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Exactly. The onions do all the heavy lifting there. And
- 4:41Speaker 2: then there's always Shake Shack.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Shake Shack is like the reliable adult bailout choice.
- 4:46Speaker 2: It really is. When all those experimental stunt stands are slammed,
- 4:50Speaker 2: You know exactly what a shack burger tastes like. Oh, wait.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Speaking of stunt stands, what about the ridiculous stuff? Like,
- 4:56Speaker 1: Willits Point Brewery has this 999 thing. Nine mini Nathan's
- 5:01Speaker 1: hot dogs and nine small beers in keepsake cups for $ 60.
- 5:04Speaker 1: Or those massive double patty challenges. Isn't novelty part of
- 5:09Speaker 1: the fun?
- 5:09Speaker 2: Well, if we connect this to the bigger picture, you
- 5:12Speaker 2: have to think about the logistics of being a solo traveler.
- 5:15Speaker 2: How do you carry a tray with nine open cups
- 5:19Speaker 2: of beer? and nine hot dogs to your seat without
- 5:21Speaker 2: spilling it everywhere.
- 5:23Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I didn't think about the stairs.
- 5:25Speaker 2: Right, it's a bit. The $ 60 999 is a joke
- 5:30Speaker 2: for a group of friends. It's not a solo dinner plan.
- 5:33Speaker 2: And those double patty burgers, they photograph beautifully for social media, sure.
- 5:37Speaker 1: But they don't eat well.
- 5:38Speaker 2: No, by the fourth inning, you're just miserable. Walk past them.
- 5:41Speaker 1: So focus on survivability.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Got it.
- 5:44Speaker 1: So once we've secured a real meal, you're probably looking
- 5:46Speaker 1: for a drink that actually justifies that festival price tag.
- 5:50Speaker 2: The beverage program has honestly evolved just as aggressively as
- 5:53Speaker 2: the food.
- 5:54Speaker 1: Yeah. Our source dedicated a whole paragraph to these cocktails,
- 5:57Speaker 1: like the catch julep, Hudson whiskey, cucumber, lime, and it
- 6:02Speaker 1: comes in the souvenir cup.
- 6:03Speaker 2: It's part of that whole Hendrix family of drinks they do.
- 6:06Speaker 1: Yeah, the amazing cucumber lemonade and the perfect game fizz.
- 6:09Speaker 1: But the lemonade one is interesting to me because usually
- 6:12Speaker 1: stadium lemonade just arbies with itself, right? It's too sweet,
- 6:15Speaker 1: then too sour.
- 6:16Speaker 2: It's just sugar syrup.
- 6:17Speaker 1: Exactly. But this one acts as a palate rinse without
- 6:20Speaker 1: the gin punching you in the throat.
- 6:22Speaker 2: And they bash them so they pour fast.
- 6:24Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 6:25Speaker 2: But the real sleeper on the drink menu is actually
- 6:27Speaker 2: the Mio Sparkling Sake.
- 6:29Speaker 1: Oh, the sake. Right.
- 6:31Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a commercial sake, but it drinks like a
- 6:33Speaker 2: crisp seltzer. You literally can't taste the alcohol.
- 6:36Speaker 1: Which is dangerous.
- 6:37Speaker 2: Very dangerous.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 6:39Speaker 2: But it's genuinely refreshing.
- 6:40Speaker 1: But what if you just want a beer? Because the
- 6:43Speaker 1: craft beer list is quietly great. Brooklyn, Montauk, Allagash, Dogfish.
- 6:49Speaker 1: But you have to do some work to find them.
- 6:51Speaker 2: You do. You have to be willing to walk the stairs.
- 6:53Speaker 1: To sections 310 and 324, right?
- 6:56Speaker 2: Exactly. If you want the good taps, you have to
- 6:58Speaker 2: climb up to those sections. If you just stay on
- 7:00Speaker 2: the field level, you're stuck with the standard macro brews.
- 7:04Speaker 1: Okay, so if we're spending premium money on drinks and
- 7:06Speaker 1: climbing stairs to get them, that naturally leads us to
- 7:09Speaker 1: the premium spaces, the clubs. Right. But how do you
- 7:12Speaker 1: justify the cost? Our source mentions a ticket on StubHub
- 7:16Speaker 1: for the Hundo Club was about $ 160. That sounds like
- 7:19Speaker 1: luxury porn.
- 7:20Speaker 2: It does, but you have to look at the clubs
- 7:22Speaker 2: as pure math. Okay, lay out the math for me.
- 7:25Speaker 1: So a regular lower bowl seat is already expensive. The
- 7:28Speaker 1: Hyundai Club includes your seat behind home plate, Plus unlimited
- 7:33Speaker 1: soft drinks and essentially two heavy meals. Oh, right.
- 7:37Speaker 2: They have roast beef, tortellini, burgers, nachos. Yeah.
- 7:41Speaker 1: So if you were going to buy a regular ticket
- 7:43Speaker 1: plus a $ 30 burger combo and then go back for
- 7:46Speaker 1: $ 25 nachos later.
- 7:48Speaker 2: That $ 160 actually starts to make sense.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Exactly. It's a way to cap your spending. But the
- 7:53Speaker 1: other clubs have very specific purposes, too, like the Heineken
- 7:57Speaker 1: Diamond Lounge.
- 7:58Speaker 2: Which used to be Piazza 31, right? Yes, exactly.
- 8:00Speaker 1: That room is essentially the weather room.
- 8:02Speaker 2: The weather room?
- 8:03Speaker 1: Yeah. If it's a freezing raw April night or a
- 8:06Speaker 1: sweltering August afternoon, it's your climate-controlled escape.
- 8:10Speaker 2: And the metro market is kind of an escape hatch, too. Yes, exactly.
- 8:13Speaker 1: It's just a quieter spot to grab a panini and
- 8:15Speaker 1: catch your breath away from the sweaty concourse.
- 8:18Speaker 2: But the most revealing room, the one with the biggest tell,
- 8:22Speaker 2: is the Hudson Whiskey Club on the promenade.
- 8:25Speaker 1: Oh, this is the ultimate truth of the building.
- 8:27Speaker 2: It fills up when the Mets are losing?
- 8:29Speaker 1: Yes.
- 8:30Speaker 2: When the team is down by seven runs, the pretense
- 8:33Speaker 2: of baseball just vanishes. It just becomes a high-end bar
- 8:37Speaker 2: with a view of the skyline.
- 8:39Speaker 1: That is highly useful intel. Okay, so we have the map.
- 8:43Speaker 1: We have the math. How do we actually execute this visit?
- 8:46Speaker 1: Let's give the tactical breakdown.
- 8:48Speaker 2: First rule, take the 7 train.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Yes, the 7 train. And when you get there, you
- 8:52Speaker 1: want to enter through the Jackie Robinson Rotunda.
- 8:55Speaker 2: Absolutely. You have to experience the building itself. Don't just
- 8:58Speaker 2: sneak in a side gate.
- 8:59Speaker 1: And once you're in, don't just buy the first thing
- 9:02Speaker 1: you see. Walk the Taste of the City section behind
- 9:04Speaker 1: Center Field before you commit to a line. Do a lap.
- 9:07Speaker 2: And bring your own sealed water.
- 9:09Speaker 1: Wait, you can bring outside food and water in?
- 9:11Speaker 2: Yes, outside food is allowed. And you can bring in
- 9:14Speaker 2: one factory sealed water bottle, which you will need because
- 9:18Speaker 2: all that pastrami and sausage is incredibly salty.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Good to know. And just as a heads up, the
- 9:23Speaker 1: concession alcohol pours die pretty late in the game. Though
- 9:26Speaker 1: we aren't going to sit here and recite the bag
- 9:28Speaker 1: policy like an FAQ page. You can just point to
- 9:30Speaker 1: the article for those operating details.
- 9:32Speaker 2: Right. Nobody wants to hear us read the stadium rules.
- 9:35Speaker 1: No. So what does this all mean for you, the traveler?
- 9:38Speaker 1: The verdict is treat the park like a shortlist, not
- 9:41Speaker 1: a festival pass. Get one real plate, one real drink.
- 9:45Speaker 2: One pastrami, one sake.
- 9:47Speaker 1: Exactly. Because the Heineken Lounge, plus one real sandwich, plus
- 9:52Speaker 1: a lap around the concourse... That is a whole night,
- 9:56Speaker 1: even if the team is terrible.
- 9:57Speaker 2: And that really leads to a deeper philosophical question. point
- 10:00Speaker 2: about modern fandom. Oh. A ballpark visit today is not
- 10:04Speaker 2: just a box score. The true test of Citi Field
- 10:07Speaker 2: is whether the place still holds your attention and your
- 10:10Speaker 2: affection when your team does not.
- 10:12Speaker 1: Wow.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 10:14Speaker 1: If they're losing, does the building save the night?
- 10:16Speaker 2: It does. But it makes you wonder. How much of
- 10:18Speaker 2: our loyalty to sports venues today is actually engineered by
- 10:21Speaker 2: the hospitality rather than the game itself?
- 10:24Speaker 1: Are we loyal to the franchise or are we just
- 10:26Speaker 1: fans of the concourse? It was a fantastic, slightly unsettling
- 10:29Speaker 1: thought to leave you with. Thanks for joining us on
- 10:31Speaker 1: this exploration and we will catch you on the next one.