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Furness Show 7-16: Mariners trade ideas, Keith Law · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: My dad was born in Swindon, which is the kind
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  Speaker 1: of the equivalent of a Tacoma area in England, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, I've rooted for them when they don't play USA,
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  Speaker 1: I've rooted for England. But I was the second born
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  Speaker 1: male from my dad's side in the United States. He
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  Speaker 1: was born in Swindon. His family all from that area.
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  Speaker 1: My grandma Pam had the accent until she passed. So
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  Speaker 1: I was rooting for him, and I kind of had
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of hope, but I kind of knew
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't coming home, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: And really I kind of people thought England win that
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  Speaker 2: game yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I got it because of Argentina being not
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  Speaker 1: lucky at all, but because they played so many close games,
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  Speaker 1: it kind of felt like, hey, maybe this is and
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  Speaker 1: you know, you could argue one through eleven. They're similar
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  Speaker 1: in talent. England is never lacking in talent, like there's
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  Speaker 1: there's always been several quality players. They don't have a
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  Speaker 1: a Goat, a literal goat because he's the size of
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  Speaker 1: a goat, but they've had some really good players. But
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  Speaker 1: it's just it's England. I just knew it can't happen
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  Speaker 1: like it's kind of and this is the most depressing transition.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes it feels kind of like the Seattle Mariners. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it kind of feels like as many good players as
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  Speaker 1: they have, as good of a path as they can have,
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  Speaker 1: it's the Seattle Mariners, and I just wonder if they
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  Speaker 1: can ever do it. But boy, that was a fun game.
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  Speaker 1: It was a physical game. It was an intense game.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what's funny, Andrews, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you remember this when I hosted for Ian last time,
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  Speaker 1: I've mentioned that there wasn't a hell of a lot
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  Speaker 1: going right for the World Cup in the build up.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you can say too many bad things
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  Speaker 1: about this World Cup. No, Like, I think it's been
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  Speaker 1: as as good of a tournament. And I've been watching
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  Speaker 1: the World Cup since nineteen ninety four when they had
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  Speaker 1: a giant snickerbar logo in the top right of the
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  Speaker 1: screen instead of commercials. Boy that hydration break. I can't
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  Speaker 1: imagine how much money they've made off that. But I've
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  Speaker 1: been following it for a long time. This has been
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  Speaker 1: and maybe it's just because I pay more attention to
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  Speaker 1: the sport now, but this has been as good of
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  Speaker 1: a World Cup as I can remember.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you've had the superstars show out. I
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  Speaker 2: think one of the big underrated parts about this World
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  Speaker 2: Cup is how the US has been shown in a
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  Speaker 2: different light than a lot of countries view them in
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  Speaker 2: the media. However that is, I think you've had, you know,
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  Speaker 2: people who don't normally travel here. Early Hollin's the best
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  Speaker 2: example I can have. He as his own vlog that
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  Speaker 2: he has and has been doing throughout his entire journey
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  Speaker 2: through the World Cup. He's been shown going to countless
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  Speaker 2: different places and talking about how amazing it is and
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  Speaker 2: how cool of a place it is. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: think that's something I don't take lightly. I think a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people around the world like to really, you know,
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  Speaker 2: crap on the US, and it's a reputation that it
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  Speaker 2: gets right rightly or wrongly. I think a lot of
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  Speaker 2: that has gone away with what the World Cup has
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  Speaker 2: really brought. There's obviously still going to be that anti
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  Speaker 2: US sentiment, and honestly, internally there's going to be that
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  Speaker 2: anti world sentiment with the World Cup, and a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people are like, oh, we're the US, we don't
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  Speaker 2: need to watch soccer. But it's been about as amazing
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  Speaker 2: of a tournament as you can hope for.
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  Speaker 1: I've loved every minute of it, and you know, I
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  Speaker 1: choked about it on social media that my true addition
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  Speaker 1: of the World Cup is games at two am that
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  Speaker 1: I have to call out of work for best body
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  Speaker 1: to go watch because I stayed up to watch that
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  Speaker 1: instead of went to bed. But the times I can't
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  Speaker 1: complain about any of that because you know, you can't
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  Speaker 1: complain about kids because they're off school right now. They
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  Speaker 1: have the chance to watch this, and I think I
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  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be big. I'm gonna be really curious
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  Speaker 1: to see how big this is for the Sounders if
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  Speaker 1: there's gonna be like It's not like they are flailing
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  Speaker 1: in attendance or anything like that. But I always think
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  Speaker 1: that you get a bump when you have a tournament
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  Speaker 1: like this, especially one that was played here, especially one
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  Speaker 1: that had so many terrific games played literally in that
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  Speaker 1: stadium as well. I think that might be, as the
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  Speaker 1: kids say, a little more hyphie for the hot fight well,
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  Speaker 1: and it also helps that they're playing their biggest rival
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  Speaker 1: as well on Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm curious to see what the local
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  Speaker 2: increase is I don't want to be the Debbie Downer.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it'll really change that much in terms
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  Speaker 2: of MLS specifically. The big thing that I'm curious about
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  Speaker 2: is after watching these superstars, how much are people that
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  Speaker 2: maybe were casual soccer fans maybe and only MLS watchers
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  Speaker 2: that now go and follow these superstars at their clubs. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's gonna be I think the big determining factor of
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  Speaker 2: you know what this World Cup has brought to the
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  Speaker 2: casual soccer fan here in the US.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I didn't think about this until right now.
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  Speaker 1: Is it hurt that the stations that air the EPL
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  Speaker 1: and air some of those stuff didn't have the World
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  Speaker 1: Cup because maybe less of a tie in per se?
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  Speaker 1: Could that be a fact? I mean, so you know
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  Speaker 1: I tuned in to watch Chelsea play every five am
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  Speaker 1: or eight am whatever to go watch on NBC or Peacock.
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  Speaker 1: Well NBC or Peacock didn't have the World Cup, right,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, maybe you have to do a little
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  Speaker 1: more research, you know, to see what the stations are on.
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  Speaker 1: I think it would have been a nice tie in
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  Speaker 1: if Fox, you know who. I think Fox's coverage has
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  Speaker 1: been solid.
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  Speaker 2: This World Cup. I've liked it a lot more.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, there's there's an exception to that that maybe we
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  Speaker 1: could talk about in a second, but I think I
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  Speaker 1: think they've done solid. But maybe it would be nice
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  Speaker 1: if you could say, hey, this is where you're going
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  Speaker 1: to turn in to see Manchester City play, or this
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  Speaker 1: is where you're going to turn in to see La
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  Speaker 1: Liga or League One or the Bundesliga, which is just
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  Speaker 1: such a fun thing to say. But yeah, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: be very curious. Four nine four one has this on
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  Speaker 1: the takomadage text line. Has this tournament led to more
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  Speaker 1: excitement for soccer for you going forward? Or is are
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  Speaker 1: and it's okay? You know. I'll compare it to the
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  Speaker 1: C and C Catholic the guy who goes just Christian
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  Speaker 1: and Easter. It's okay if you're just into the World
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  Speaker 1: Cup and nothing else.
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  Speaker 2: I compare it to hockey too. Maybe you don't watch
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  Speaker 2: the NHL, but you watch the Olympics.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, or just to Stanley Cup final except
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  Speaker 1: you know you're not. This is very common with Olympic sports.
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  Speaker 1: No one gives a flying crap about ice skating until
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  Speaker 1: it happens, and then it's the most watched thing and
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  Speaker 1: it's not even close.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 1: The difference is ice skating isn't popular around the world,
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  Speaker 1: it's just popular at the Olympics. Soccer is the most
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  Speaker 1: watched sport by a substantial margin.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not for everyone here in the US, right.
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  Speaker 1: Not for everyone there is, especially if you got into
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  Speaker 1: traditional football and tradition of baseball. There's no other There's
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  Speaker 1: no other version of it or basketball. It's a very
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  Speaker 1: different sport than those sports. It's similar esque to hockey,
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  Speaker 1: similar esk It's not a perfect comparison, but it's closer
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  Speaker 1: in terms of score lines, in terms of you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's a goal, all that stuff. It's an easier comparison.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not for everyone. But I do think that
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  Speaker 1: if you take the time to learn about the sports,
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  Speaker 1: I do think that it's going to be something a
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  Speaker 1: lot more appreciate and it's I think easier because of
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  Speaker 1: the time zone stuff. So yeah, four nine, four or
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  Speaker 1: five one, let us know what you're thinking about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to add really quick, even if it
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  Speaker 2: is a slight change, and maybe you're not going to
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  Speaker 2: watch MLS or whatever, but you watched soccer and maybe
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  Speaker 2: you have a slightly different viewpoint on it now after
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  Speaker 2: watching the World Cup, even if it's slight, just let
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  Speaker 2: us know, or maybe not, or maybe even you hate
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  Speaker 2: it even more.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what, because of the var stuff and
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  Speaker 1: because of the interesting decision about a reversal or not
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  Speaker 1: a reversal, a suspension, have a red card, maybe that
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  Speaker 1: turns you off. Yeah, I'd be interesting to hear if
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  Speaker 1: anyone has that opinion as well. What I have, fay
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  Speaker 1: more basic understanding of how people feel right now is
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  Speaker 1: about the Seattle Mariners. And well, real quick, because I'm
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  Speaker 1: watching the replay of it right now, I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: talk quickly about the All Star Game because boy, that
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  Speaker 1: didn't seem to go very well.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't watch a second of it.
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  Speaker 1: Neither did I Wow, And that tells you something, because
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  Speaker 1: I what the heck was I watching? I might have
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  Speaker 1: just been laying down and just didn't feel like watching
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  Speaker 1: the game, to be honest with.
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  Speaker 2: You, because there's no World Cup on it.
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  Speaker 1: There's no World Cup, and so yeah, there's no real
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  Speaker 1: excuse here. Why wasn't I watched in the game other
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  Speaker 1: than the fact that it was apparently just a snore
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  Speaker 1: an absolute snore. And here's another one for the Tacoma
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  Speaker 1: Dodge text line four nine four five one. Have we
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  Speaker 1: moved past the need for All Star games?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I've been far ahead of that.
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  Speaker 1: I am getting there too. Now. Look, the Pro Bowl's
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  Speaker 1: always been bad. The MLB All Star Game has moments
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  Speaker 1: of greatness, and it used to be something that And
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  Speaker 1: here's the thing. Interleague play was a necessary thing to
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  Speaker 1: bring and also is a lot of fun, but it
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  Speaker 1: also took away some of the fun of the All
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  Speaker 1: Star Game because that would be the only way, as
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  Speaker 1: a kid, anders that I could watch Barry Bonds, that
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  Speaker 1: I could watch Bobby Benia, that I could watch Doug
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  Speaker 1: dreyback pitching. Gosh, I'm old. That was the only way
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  Speaker 1: we could see him because we didn't have as many
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  Speaker 1: options to see baseball. We didn't have the MLBtv or
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  Speaker 1: anything like that. That was my chance. Now I can
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  Speaker 1: see these guys anytime I want. I can watch a
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  Speaker 1: YouTube highlight of them, I can watch MLBtv. I can
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  Speaker 1: watch them on either ESPN or now Netflix. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit about the Netflix presentation of
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  Speaker 1: that show, because I have a lot to be for
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  Speaker 1: telling me interesting things there, but the baseball one used
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  Speaker 1: to be good. The basketball one I kind of like
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  Speaker 1: watching two age six to three forty two, So I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of fun to watch those guys score. But
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  Speaker 1: I get it from the fact that the lack of competition,
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  Speaker 1: and I know this most recent one, they changed rules
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  Speaker 1: so it became more competitive. I don't know, I just
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  Speaker 1: feel like we maybe moved past the need for All
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  Speaker 1: Star games.
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  Speaker 2: See here's my weird take is that maybe the actual
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  Speaker 2: game itself needs to be done with. But I think
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  Speaker 2: you could keep just the home run Derby and have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people really like it still, because I think,
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  Speaker 2: for by all stretch of the amount like people that
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  Speaker 2: are evaluating it, that was a good home run Derby, sure,
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  Speaker 2: and it was fun. Yeah. I like the outs instead
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  Speaker 2: of the clock much better. And then you could say
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  Speaker 2: the similar thing with NBA. I know it's lost a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of its poll, but get rid of the
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  Speaker 2: All Star Game, but keep the dunk contest, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean, So like the side things that actually
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the time end up being more entertaining
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  Speaker 2: than the actual game itself. For me, that's what I
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  Speaker 2: would do to kind of keep some sort of festivities
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  Speaker 2: during the break without trying to fake like it's a
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  Speaker 2: it's a game of any importance whatsoever, and you're not
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  Speaker 2: risking injury at that point either. It's it's the picture
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  Speaker 2: situation in the All Star Game is really weird because
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  Speaker 2: you don't want your pitchers to play, but then you
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  Speaker 2: want to see them pitch on that level. You don't
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  Speaker 2: have that issue with the home run derby. So that's
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  Speaker 2: where I kind of would lie kind of in between,
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  Speaker 2: like I don't need to see the game itself. Just
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  Speaker 2: give me the home run derby, Right.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's fair? Four nine, four five one. What
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  Speaker 1: would you like to see there? We've got a really
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  Speaker 1: fun show today. We're going to talk We do this
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  Speaker 1: every year with Ian, you know, taking his I almost
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  Speaker 1: insulted him again. I'm gonna be nice today Ian taking
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  Speaker 1: the dessert.
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  Speaker 2: Just listen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. Way we do this every
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  Speaker 1: year that we have talked about potential trade targets. Anders
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  Speaker 1: and I will go over that. We're going to start
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  Speaker 1: with the American League today and we'll go over some bats,
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  Speaker 1: some potential bullpen options, and also maybe just a couple
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  Speaker 1: of starting pitchers as well. So we'll go over that.
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  Speaker 1: At one o'clock, we're going to have Keith Lock come
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  Speaker 1: on to talk about the MLB draft. I also want
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  Speaker 1: to ask him about Lazara Montes and Michael Royal, who
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  Speaker 1: both get promoted to tripa A, whether or not those
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  Speaker 1: guys could be helpers for the Seattle Mariners if you
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  Speaker 1: were going to trade one of those guys, which one
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  Speaker 1: makes the most sense. Keith says, in touch with this
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  Speaker 1: stuff as anybody eyes. And then in the two o'clock hour,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my best not to go on a rant,
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  Speaker 1: but I want to talk about Seahawks, but I want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about it in a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: different way because I saw another reel today where people
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  Speaker 1: were complaining about the Rams being the favorite to win
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  Speaker 1: the NFC West and win the Super Bowl, and a
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  Speaker 1: whole bunch of comments about nobody pays attention to us,
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  Speaker 1: nobody respects us, they not like us, we do not care.
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  Speaker 1: Except for that we do not care. Doesn't seem to
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  Speaker 1: apply to Seahawks fans. And I want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: that and why it matters. Why do we have such
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  Speaker 1: a need in our little corner, And I do think
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  Speaker 1: our little corner spoiler alert has something to do with that.
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  Speaker 1: Why it's such a big deal, why it's so important
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  Speaker 1: for these guys to why it's so important for fans
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  Speaker 1: excuse me, to get that respect everywhere, to get to
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  Speaker 1: be the national attention team. I think it's a really
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  Speaker 1: interesting topic, and I get it. I do get it
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  Speaker 1: because I've been there. I've been there and wondering why
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  Speaker 1: people aren't treating the Seahawks like the Dallas Cowboys or
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  Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers when they're better than those teams
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  Speaker 1: like consistently now. But I also think it's a little
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  Speaker 1: weird that we care so much. So we'll talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: Anders are we breaking at twelve twenty or twelve fifteen?
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  Speaker 1: Twe twelve twenty oh, so we've got time to talk
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  Speaker 1: a few minutes such of stuff that's awesome. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I left the sheet, it's it's spring training for me.
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  Speaker 1: That's That's the way I think about it is I
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  Speaker 1: get one spring training show and then I get one finale.
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  Speaker 1: Except I've done this like ten times this year.
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  Speaker 2: So I probably does that mean you're not going to
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  Speaker 2: the postseason?
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  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, no, no, I might be tanking at this point.
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  Speaker 1: I get a high draft, getting getting one oh four
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  Speaker 1: point nine funky monkey to listening to listening to my
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  Speaker 1: tape and see what I can do.
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  Speaker 2: I have a quick question for you lead regarding Mariners,
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  Speaker 2: because there's a lot of sentiment around this team and
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: how poorly they played going into the All Star break.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: The debbiest of downers will say, well, they should just sell.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: You know, the market will get you a lot in return.
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  Speaker 2: Because of how many teams are in sort of contention
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  Speaker 2: at this point. They don't have a ton of huge pieces, right,
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  Speaker 2: Someone like Randy Roserena would be your biggest ticket because
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  Speaker 2: he's a free agent after this year and he's your
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  Speaker 2: one All Star, right, and you could still do like
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  Speaker 2: a little half sell half buy situation like they did
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, which a lot of fans hate. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm just curious on your thoughts. Should they be
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  Speaker 2: going all in right now based on how poorly they
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  Speaker 2: are playing? Yes, okay, but.
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  Speaker 1: It's only because of what is happening in the American
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  Speaker 1: League and also what has happened over the last fifty years.
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  Speaker 1: So it's an interesting little juxtaposition. Yeah, because it's very
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  Speaker 1: short term and it's also very long term when you
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  Speaker 1: have never done this and you were eight outs away
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  Speaker 1: from doing it and you have the farm system that
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: you do and the ability to go get better. Now,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: it's interesting. Jerry Depoto has some comments that we're going
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  Speaker 1: to explore it a little bit and.
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  Speaker 2: They're about as predictable as it gets, Chris Craft.
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  Speaker 1: They are as predictable as it gets. And I will
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  Speaker 1: just say this, sometimes I wonder what people expect Pobo's
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  Speaker 1: president of as to say, doesn't that sound like a
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: great Italian restaurant? By the way, the Doma Gonzone get
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  Speaker 1: the Polopoto. It's funny how that's not considered racist for
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  Speaker 1: some reason. But you know, we'll talk about this. But
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  Speaker 1: like there's pressure on this team. There is pressure to succeed.
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  Speaker 1: And there's not only pressure. There is and I know
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  Speaker 1: I use the term golden opportunity too much. There is
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  Speaker 1: a golden opportunity here. The best team is the Tampa
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  Speaker 1: Bay Race in the American League right now? Are you
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  Speaker 1: kidding me? Are you kidding me? The New York Yankees
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  Speaker 1: are incredibly flawed and have some major injuries that it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be and they don't have the farm system
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  Speaker 1: that Seattle does to go get those pieces. The Ale
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  Speaker 1: Central is a division like that. That's that's the that's
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  Speaker 1: a division. It's a division and good for the White Sox.
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  Speaker 1: Like you know, the I don't know if it was
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: worth being this bad for that long, but you're starting
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: to pay the The fruits are starting to come. They've
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: got some good young play and they're taking advantage of this.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: The Guardians just always seem to be eighty five and
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: seventy seven and it's good enough to make the postseason
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: and give. But then, and then you look at your
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: own division and it is just Anderson.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: What is it ten pounds of crap in a five pound.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Bag and pounds of crap in a five pounds You
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: bet your sweet Bippy it is ten pounds of crap.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Let's go in a five pound bag. So yes, to
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: answer your question, I do think that they selling to
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: me would be a massive mistake unless things absolutely fall
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: apart over the next three weeks. We'll talk more about
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  Speaker 1: Chris Crawford and for Ian Furness joined by my good
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: buddy andrews Hurst. So we were talking some baseball and
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk a bunch of trade stuff. A bunch
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: of this has kind of been to be the trade
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: of Palooza next forty eight hours talking about that stuff.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: So I was just thinking about this. Anders. Let's start
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: with where we think the Seattle Mariners could potentially get better.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna go position by position. You tell
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: me whether or not you think it would be possible
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: or realistic to upgrade the position. I'll start with catcher.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I mean probably not.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I think no. I also think they wouldn't even try
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: because they want the realistic part. And you're talking like,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: can you get better than what ca? Yes, you could
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: get a heck of a lot better, but no, they won't. Yes.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: And also I do think sometimes his defense gets a
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: little underrated, like he's still really helping the team in
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: that regard. Sure, the bat has to get a hell
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: of a lot better quick.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like the main reason why I think he's
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: the biggest reason why the Mariners are where they are
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Here's an interesting one. First base.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: I mean again, they won't, but I still feel like
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: you could get better.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I think that they could. I also think it is
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: somewhat realistic if they would be willing to make Josh
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Naylor a designated hitter, because you're gonna play Josh Naylor
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: like seventeen million dollars a year. The Mariners have done
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: some funny stuff. They made Mitch Garver a twelve million
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: dollar backup catcher. I don't think they're doing that for
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: a guy they just gave close to a hundred million.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like, yes, his bat hasn't been amazing this year,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: but he's far from their biggest issue offensively.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: We can talk about that.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Second base no, No, shortstop yes.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think shorts up's an underrated one to talk about,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: and we'll talk about why in a second there.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Third base, yes, left fields probably not, probably not, just
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: because I know they won't. I mean, you can't have
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: sixty h's no, so if you want to put Josh
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Naylor a DG, you can't put Randy at DH.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Crazy. I just want one balanced baseball team one time,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: just one time, because I think about the Forensic era
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: where they had the greatest Mariner defense I've ever seen,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: but the team full of punch and judy hitters, to
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: say the very least. And then there have been some
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: teams that are softball beer league, and this is closer
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: to beer league.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: But you know, so the thing is, I actually think
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: if you had a team of better defensive players, Randy's
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: defense wouldn't stand out as much.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: That's a fair point.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: And like having your worst defender in left field, that's
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: pretty common.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: It's one of the most common things. It's so funny
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: that you know in h in movies, usually bad movies,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: they have the crappy kid playing right field. Obviously, we're
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: not calling Randy rose Arena crappy, comparing him to the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: kid with the snot bubble, with the glasses that right
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: only playing because his mom needs him out of the hack. Yeah, exactly.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: But honestly, that's where you kind of put the left field. Yeah,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: you know, you do it in right field because nobody's
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: hitting the ball that way in little league. But yeah,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and then centerfield I'm just gonna answer for you know,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: there's there's just there's no realistic path there and right.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Field debatable depends on how you feel about can Zone
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: and Luke Rayley. They both have been playing well this year,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: but what like and even Victor Robos like what at
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: times has looked like pretty decent since coming back, especially defensively,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: like having someone there who actually can defend the position.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: If you could combine all those players in a one
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: wouldn't that'd be great?
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, it would be wonderful, especially if one of them
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: hit right handed. Yeah, victory, that's a fair point.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Victor defense and right handed stance, yes, dom can Zone's
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: raw power, Luke Rayley's speed, question marks.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: That's just the phoebe it all. It's just so funny
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: watching it.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty funny.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: And maybe like being able to have the ability to
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: get hot like Luke Rayley.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets He gets hot as as much as anyone, So.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Jan Zone has a little bit of that. But I've
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: been really impressed.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: With the consistency of him this year. Relief pitching, yes, yeah,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: you can always add to the bullpen.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: You can always.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think it. The bullpen is as
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: big of an issue as a lot of people say
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: it is. This year.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. How many people just think this bullpen is
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the worst. And I'm not saying it's great. And I
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: will say this, the back end of the bullpen, like
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: the very back is really bad.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Is an issue.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: It's a really big issue. All due respect to Michael
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Rutger and to some of the other guys who've been
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: in that situate. Place, who's the other guy. I'm not
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: thinking of Nick Davila, who pitched great on Sunday, by
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the way, and so did Michael Rutgers.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: So when you say back into the bullpen, you're not
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: talking munos that back end.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: No, we're not talking about closer. We're talking about the
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: low health the thirteenth, the low leverage guy starting pitching. No,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I tend to agree, but there's an exception that I
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: still think I would make if one guy was realistically available.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but we'll talk about that guy.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: But I will say this, the depth that you have
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: at starting pitching is so vastly under rated.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: If anything, you could trade one of those guys first
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: one of these positions.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: And I think here's nostra dam Chris making in early prediction.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: They're gonna do it.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Finally, I think one of those guys is gonna get moved.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Which one I think is Louis Castillo?
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Really, And because I think Louis Castillo, here's the trade
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I keep going to and would. I wanted to save
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: it for Friday, but I just can't. Luis Castillo in prospects,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: not elite prospects, but prospects to the Chicago Cubs for
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: a certain outfielder that I will save for Friday. I
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: think makes all the sense in the world because he
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: fills needs.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: You could say, either one of their corner outfielders. To
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: be honest, well, we'll see which one you say.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: We'll see which one I say. If they invite me back.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: They changed the lots on this place at So basically
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: what we just talked about, there's lots of areas the
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Mariners can get better. There are realistic paths to get better.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: But the general manager of the Seattle Mariners may not
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: be so sure. Excuse me, the president of Baseball Operations
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: is not so sure. He had some quotes today and
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: he said, I'm just paraphrasing here because I don't have
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: the whole thing, because it's a Tolstoy novel of a
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: quote that he thinks that there basically, are not players
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: that are better than the Seattle Mariners who could make
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: the Seattle Mariners better? Do you have that exact quote?
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: And I could pull it up really quick. Yeah, it
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: was sent to us through our group chairs. Benton, Yes,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: and a.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Certain Nathan Bishop reacted very calmly.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Just as everyone would expect.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: The best players we can acquire are the players that
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: we have.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: That's justice such.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: We just need them to do the things that they
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: have historically done.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: And you know, it's a very cliched quote, it's a
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: very coach speak but front office speak. But when you
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: have this team's history, I understand anyone who hears that
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: and gets madder than a wet hen because that's the
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: last thing I want to hear if I'm a Seattle
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Mariner fan what it tells me, even if it's correct,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: and he's not one hundred percent wrong, because these guys
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: do have to put Josh Nayler cal Rawley, all those
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: guys have to play better, have to have to have
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: to have to. You have to get more from Colt Emerson,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: you have to get more from Julio, you have to
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: get more from JP Crawford. You have to find out
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: what island. Brenda Donovan is currently at by the way
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: he did start his rehab assignment. S that is wonderful
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: for three, but you know what, we just want him
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: healthy and getting at batts because I do think he
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: could play an important part. But at the same time,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: you can't be in the position you are after last
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: year and tell me that this is okay, that this
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: is okay to just play status quo here, because that's
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: what that quote says to me is status quo is
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: what is going to have to happen. I'm not okay
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: with that. I'm curious if you are Tacoma Dodge text
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• 26:19
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• 26:53
  Speaker 1: We've got a little bit of breaking news. The Seattle
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Mariners have sent their rotate.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Oh I love that song too.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Imagine that with like a funky bassline and couldn't you
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: see a rapper dropping Like if that's not bad, I
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: don't hate that. I don't hate that at all. We
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: do have some news that the Mariners have set their rotation,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: and Andrews, I'll let you go ahead and give the
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: good news. Uh.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, So there are three game series against the Giants
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: begins on Friday. That will be Bryce Miller on the mound,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Saturday will be Brian wu and Sunday will be Logan Gilbert.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I don't have any strong thoughts about it, but I
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: will tell you then.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: That deserves the breaking news sounder.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: No, but I do think it's interesting that Bryce Miller
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: gets that first call because I think he was pretty
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: pretty clearly your best starter, yeah, for the first half
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: of the year. And you know, it's interesting. I think if,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: in fact, I know, if Bryce Miller would have gotten
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: more innings, he would have absolutely made the All Star team.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: You couldn't have justified him not being on that All
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Star team. I think Logan Robert also had a case
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: to be on that All Star team, very comparable numbers
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: to some other players. That didn't make it interesting kind
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: of that Wu is in between the two, because if
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: you were just going on merit based on how they
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: pitched over the second half, I would say it would
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: be Castille than Wu that I would be doing, and
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: then you'd be talking about this. Also you could argue
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Emerson Hancock. I wonder how ready Emerson Hancock is going
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: to be because for those who missed it, and it
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: was like a week ago, so it's understandable. He takes
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: a one oh seven ball off of his hand real quick. Emerson,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: next time, just move, just get out of the way. Please,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: please don't try to feel that ever again. Go undergoes
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: an MRI. There's no structural damage, but he does have
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: a bruise and contusions on your finger. Anyone who's had
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: one before knows that you can get swollen there for
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: a while and it could be really difficult to group
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: a baseball. And I'm guessing the Mariners are probably holding
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Hancock back to make sure that he's one hundred percent there,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: because if you were going merit based, I think you
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: would go Miller, and then you would probably go Gilbert
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: than Hancock. Is that fair?
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. Yeah, if Hancock's one healthy, right, Yeah,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I maybe even Hancock I had of Gilbert personally, just
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: based off of I know, Hancock kind of dropped off
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: a little bit, but his his highs this season have
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: been higher, at least for an extended period of time. Sure,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: but you could argue either way.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the only thing you really can't argue,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I think is that Castillo has to be sixth in
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: the merit list, and also that I think it'd be
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: hard to argue that George Kirby wouldn't be fifth, And
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: that's more compliment to I think the names above than
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: insult to him. But it is also fair to say
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: that Kirby has been very mixed since a really good
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: start to the season.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I think the point of this is that, like there's
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: even with Bryce Miller pitching as well as he is,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: he's starting to separate himself from the pack. But the
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: managers don't have anyone where you could say, all right,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: first game coming back, instantly putting you in there, right,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: you could you could really argue either one. So and
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: now it's just more about like, okay, maybe even matchup
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: based to to, you know, pitch at home versus pitch
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: on the road. Which kind of lineup do you want
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: them to face?
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: That's where the Mariners are at this point, and it
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: is weird to say. With starting pitching being one of
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: their strengths, I think a lot of people would agree
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: with that, but not having a guy guy is it
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: is a little bit I don't want to say concerning,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: but it's surprising to me at this point because we
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: expected there to at least be one or two from
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: this group, and none of them have really kind of
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: stood out besides Bryce Miller, and of course he's been
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: injured for a large portion of this year.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely text from two to five to three that
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: brings up that Chuck Pale this morning suggested that he'd
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: put Kirby in that spot because you get two home
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: games from him and he's been kind of sketchy there.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing that's kind of what they're thinking with Brian
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Wuhe Yeah, he's the big gap boy O boy has
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: he really struggled away? And I just don't know a
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: lot of people ask me why and my answer is
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: just the shoulder shrug emoji, because I just have no
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: idea other than the fact that you can't be as
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: good as you are on the road as he is
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: at home, like where he literally doesn't give up runs.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: You have to give him up somewhere. But it's not
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: like he's like he has six innings of three run
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: baseball five innings of two. He's getting shellcked on the
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: road on a pretty consistent basis.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Was this something that was the case the last couple
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: of years of him as well.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I'll have to be honest, I didn't notice it, and
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: nobody really brought it up to me, because we know
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: the most famous one for the Seattle Mariners was Louis Castillo,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: that he was so much better in the friendly confinence
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: than he was away from Seattle. But boy, oh boy,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: it's been just a disaster. I mean, some starts that
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: are nowhere close to good enough for him. So I see,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I see your eyes moving that no I had. Oh okay,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, oof magof that is a is
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: oof magoof Chris Crawford. Isn't too?
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah it is? I think so last year was ten
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: and two at home, five and five on the road.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: But the era is not a huge difference. Two point
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: four four at home three point four on the road.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: So that's that's standard.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a totally cromulent difference in era. I
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: love saying the promulent. That's a There's a Simpsons episode
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: where they try to use cromulant and the biggin as
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: uh as uh what the hell is the game called
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: scrabble words and then both they're both used in real
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: life like later too, and they've both have been added
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: as words to the dictionary. Yeah, which is pretty funny,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: but it's also interesting. Speaking of pitching, there was an
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: extension announced today for Chase Burns. You've got seven years.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: That was in your headlines. Believe it or not.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I do believe it. I do believe it, and I'll
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: probably have to get those from you at some point.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I put them out there. I think they should be.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: We could find them. We can find them. If not,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I'll just Mike Benton, you thief of thieves. I think
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: that's an interesting extension because that's a guy with no uh,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: he's completely arbitration eligible. All of that stuff is completely
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: bought out. Seven years, one hundred and five million dollars.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: One of the best young pitchers in baseball has a
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: chance to be better, considerably better, and you could argue
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: he might be better than some of these guys that
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: the Mariners need to give contract extension to you now.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: But I'm just telling you, you look at seven to
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: one oh five for a guy who had no leverage.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have to pay some of these starting pitchers
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: so much money, so much money, And I'm just I'm
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: really curious to see which one is gonna get it,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: because I don't think it's gonna be all three. When
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: and by all three, i'm talking about Wu, Kirby, and Gilbert. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's actually gonna be two of the four.
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  Speaker 1: You think it's gonna be two of the four? Oh Hancock,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Oh Miller. Isn't that crazy that I just didn't think
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: of him as one of those guys.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Miller Wu Castille or Miller, Wu, Kirby, Gilbert. I think
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: two of those four, probably one of two from Kirby
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: and Gilbert and then one of two from Miller. If
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: you could only extend one one of those four, Yeah,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Bryce Miller. Actually, no, I'm starting to rethink that because
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: of his injury history. He's younger, though probably Brian Will.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: It's interesting for me, if all the cost was the same,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: it would be Gilbert because I think he has the
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: best ceiling and a floor that I think is acceptable.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I also worry a little bit about what's going to
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: happen when he loses velocity because he moves. That extension
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: is so important for him, but it could be an issue.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: There's flaws to all of these guys. Yeah, and it's there.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. There's a very good chance that the
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: number one pitcher for the Seattle Mariners is pitching in
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: double A right now. Yeah, there's a very good chance
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: that that's the actual which one. It's a good interesting question.
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  Speaker 1: to talk to our good buddy Keith Law in just
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  Speaker 1: which I know is not the most exciting of events,
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  Speaker 1: but it's certainly one that has been close to my hearts.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: And you know that I think the Mariners did pretty well,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: but I'll be curious to see what mister Law thinks
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  Speaker 1: about it. You know what, we can just ask him
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  Speaker 1: right now. But first of all, Keith, thank you so
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  Speaker 1: much for doing this. It's always a pleasure when I
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  Speaker 1: get to talk to somebody I've known for a very
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  Speaker 1: long time. But I just realized that I have never
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• 37:30
  Speaker 1: it now. What are your thoughts on this side? What
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: are your thoughts on the Seattle dog?
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: What is that?
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, so it's a hot dog.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming this is not like a different breed of
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: no like no, no, we don't.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: We don't, we don't, we don't cross a docs in
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: with a storm shelter or anything like that. But it
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: is a it is a hot dog. It's usually a sausage.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is disgusting, dude, what is this?
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: This is horrible?
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: No, it is.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: This is so so here's the think. I get it.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: But it is so good, and I I just kind
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: of demand that you try it. And I know that
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: you're probably not going to, but there is something about it.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: I would even beef cheese is nasty. That's that is
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: cream that went bad. I will drink cream out of
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: the cart where I would be crean cheese.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, Keith, I just said such nice things about you,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: and uh, it's understandable. I will admit that the Seattle
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: dog is a one that has some volatility to it.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: But uh, this is not Saint Louis Pizza bad or
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: anything like that.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: I'm not taking this in the top ten.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Launds take him to the ninth round. Wouldn't give him
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: signing bonus like in the Moneyball scene that had no flow,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: like at did giving kids?
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Did this? Didn't it? DeLanda gave the guys five hundred dollars.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Jees, Louise, goodness, gracious. The draft is such a weird
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: thing right now. But Keith, the Seattle Mariners, they make
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: their ten picks. It is a very collegiate heavy draft.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Just one high school guy, and that one high school
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: guy is already announced that he's going to go to LSU.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Just kind of your overall thoughts on what Seattle did
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: over those two days.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I usually just for context of listeners too. I
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: usually love Seattle's drafts, and I would have to say
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: this year, I thought it was just kind of okay.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: I'm a little bit of a skeptic on east Reese
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: just because I know he does hit the ball hard.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I get it, we're all chasing that. I don't see
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: a great approach. I really don't. He's going to need
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: a lot of work to stay at third base. It's
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: a little bit of the Tyler Locklear thing. The big
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: difference I see, of course, is Reese did it in
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: the SEC and lockleyer never had to face really good
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: philosophy of nature. Reese certainly did, and he was able
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: to hit reasonably well against the SEC. So not the same.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying I see some of the same profile
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: issues of all their picks. Actually think Jake Brown is
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: probably the most interesting one, and they probably don't get
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: him there deep into the second round if you hadn't
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: been hurt for it the second half of the season.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: But I know a lot of R and D guys
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: were thought he was basically a first round bat and
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: he could keep playing for people to see him. There
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: are a whole lot of you know, we're going to
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: why like he was just sort of undervalued, maybe a
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: little under scouted as a result of the injury especially,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: And then I thought they, you know, some of these
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: even some of the lesser picks, they don't generally pick
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: on teams. Criticized teams for fourth, fifth, sixth round for fast,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: but they went a little more conservative than I would
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: have expected. This is a team that has very happily
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: assumed some risk to try to get upside in the draft,
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: and I don't know if there's any way they really
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: did that. Might say that with Henry Ford a little bit,
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: because I think if you overhaul a swing, which is
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: a lot to ask, there's a way better player in there.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: But also, these guys just not hit all that well
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: now for three years in a couple of different schools,
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: so it's there's a reward there, but it's pretty low
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: probability of working out. So yeah, the first time, he forever,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: absolutely forever that I had not been really happy with the.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Album Draft Chris Crawford and Free in FORNESZ talking to
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Keith law on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. Let's go back
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: to Reese for a sec, because you know, it's interesting.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: The ex of velocity numbers are really impressive. Obviously the
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: power production numbers. Is a guy who swung and missed
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: outside or has excuse me, chased in twenty nine percent
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: of his swings, which is a pretty high number. But
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: you do look at a guy who drew forty one walks.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: But I do think sometimes we have to be careful
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: with college walks. How much of that is, you know,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: just the fear of facing someone like Ace Rees who
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: could hit the ball so far, And how much of
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: that is well, he did show so enough selectivity to
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: at least put up those free passes.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I see. I'm more in the former because I
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: do think you guys get pitched around is probably pushing
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: it a little bit. But there are so many kids
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: in college baseball now where everybody throws ninety five, especially
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: in the SEC you see a guy who a lot
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: of an sec bullpen he's throwing ninety two might get
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: expelled in a day like it is unbelievable how much
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: velocity there is at the good colleges. But a lot
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: of these guys just can't throw strikes. And so I
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: think a lot of especially underclass pitchers will see a
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: guy like Lease and they're trying to throw at one
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: hundred and they're certainly trying to avoid throwing it in
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: the zone knowing what he will likely do. He had
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: one of the best hard hit rates and anybody in
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: all of college baseball this year, and I think he
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: was top ten in all of Division one out of
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: over two thousand hitters who were consider qualifying by how
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: much they played. So I don't really buy that selectivity.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I do think once he gets into pro ball, you're
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: going to see him get exploited. You're going to see
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: the strikeout rate go up quite a bit and see
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: the walk rate, maybe not to like it's a double ag,
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: but you're going to see the walk rate come down
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: quickly because it's not going to be so it's not
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: those obviousnesses the pitches that are I think of a
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: non competitive pitches where I'm even the out scouting and
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: I see a header take a walk. The one thing
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: I write down cling down the walk isn't that interesting.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: But were they competitive? Were they good takes? Or with
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: this one of those where he didn't have any decisions
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: to make because the pitcher couldn't find the broadside Go Baard.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Nathan Taylor their third round pick, a guy that signs
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: for slot value seven hundred and seventy eight thousand. Now
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I look at the profile Keiths ninety two to ninety four,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: pretty good slider, generally throws strikes. It is pretty similar
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: to the profiles that they have drafted over the past
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: few years and done really well with. Now nobody that
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I talk to and nothing based on my brief look
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: at him, suggested that this was a top one hundred
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: prospect in this draft, and now he goes one on one,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: so he technically doesn't go in the top four hundred,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: but not a guy that I heard was a top
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: four round talent, more in the five or six. But
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: if you're Seattle, do you, as an analyst, as somebody
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: who pays attention to this stuff and grades process, do
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: you give a little bit of a pass knowing that
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Seattle has done so well with profiles like Taylor's, I want.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: To see what they do with him. Doesn't change my
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: valuation to the player or even the pick that you've
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: got to consider who else was on the board at
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: the time. However, his main thing is he's a two
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: pitch guy, and it's hard to be a two pitch
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: stars fastball break and wants fastball flyers specifically, and both
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: of those pitches might be good enough to make him
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: a major league starter, but he's got to have something else,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: you know, a huge potent split this year. This year
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: meaning left he's really got in because he didn't have
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: anything for them. Seattle has had a good track record
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: with helping guys develop or even add pitches, and they
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: think Oden Gilbert just came up with Clombo. We were
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: having this conversation, so they are going to end up
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: trying something new with him. I won't be surprised at
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: all if he shows up next year and there's a
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: different change up a kick, change is splitter, something like that.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: So I sort of view it two different ways. The
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: way I evaluate him on the pick is based solely
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: on who he is and what else was on the
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: board at the time, but now that he's in their system,
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: when I get to the point where I'm writing him up,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: particularly once he gets in their system, we see what
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: he looks like after they've gotten their hands on him.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Is going to be very different because they do think
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: they're going to make fairly quick to do because I
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: just know that they're being pent usim as a starter,
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: so that implies to me they're going to add a pitch,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: if not.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Too Chris Crawford and Free in forness talking to Keith Law,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you real quick about Henry Ford.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: So with the Mariners tray to Harry Ford, they drafted
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Henry Ford six foot five, who made some pretty significant
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: swing changes as far as I understand, and went from
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: being a guy who might have been hit above power
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: to considerably more power over hit. I think the biggest
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: worry for at least me, based on history, is right
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: right first baseman, and it almost assuredly Harry Ford. Henry
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Ford is going to have to move to first base.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: They tend to not have exactly the best history. But
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I kind of sawt in the sixth round that this
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: was kind of an interesting little target. Would you agree, Yeah.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: I would agree, And also he was a guy who
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: as a coming into his sophomore year, he stopped more
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: eligible in Virginia. I had him as a possible first round,
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: an outstanding defensive first bason who looked like he'd be
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: able to handle an outfield corner, and he looked like
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: a pretty good field of hit and some indicators that
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: there would be power down the road and becown immediately.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: He kind of had a meteorcre year, but Virginia just
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: never really developed that that well. Under Brian O'Connor, who's
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: now in Mississippi State, Bordley's goes to Tennessee. Tennessee is
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: a great place to hit, different voices, different programs. He
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: does get some more power, but nothing else got better,
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: If anything else, kind of the other aspects of the
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: hitting got worse, And he cannot play third base like
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: that is just a non starter. That's right. That is
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: I guess the solinoid is dead or something. That's car joking,
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: not a thing. And so now you're right, it's probably
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: first base and they should try him in the outfield
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: begin but they're going to have to find a way.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Is there a point a path of approach and swing
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: because his swing has always been pretty different where he
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: gets to hit and has power. Right, there's got to
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: be both of these things at the same time for him,
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: the profile, whether he's a plus defender at first or
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: just an average defender in the outfield corner.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Keith Love the Athletic joining us on the Beacon Plumbing hotline.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: You got a chance to go to the futures game.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: A little bit of a weird one because of the time,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: but always a fun if flawed events. A lot of
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: guys throwing really really hard, trying to just absolutely light
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: up those radar guns. But two Mariners, Ryan Sloan and
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Kate Anderson, both playing that game, both have good statistical line.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: I got to ask what you thought of both Kate
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Anderson and Ryan Sloane, how they performed in that game.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: B looks a bit better now. It's not to say
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: he's a better prospect, but Sloan just came out. It
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: was ninety seven to one hundred. He was attacking hitters,
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: which is the thing you want to see with him.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Right with him, it's going to just come down to
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: strike and obviously staying healthy because he's young and he
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: throws so hard. Anderson I feel like this is not
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: a criticism approached. It sort of more working in like way.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to try to light up the rail gun.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to come here, throw my ten fifteen
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: pitches and get out of here. And that was fine.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: He's easily throwing ninety three ninety five against We talked
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: after he pitched the Breakouts game in the spring. Is
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: velocity with Dan? My god, I hope this isn't permanent.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: It's not. Obviously he's fine. He's been so dominant in
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: Double A he probably would be in the majors for
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: the majority of teams at this point. So to me,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: you just didn't get a great feel for what Cananderson
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: is really like from watching the Futures Game. But I'm
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: totally fine with that. If I were running player development
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: for any team we had a pitcher going to the
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Futures game, I'd say, we're super happy before you, we're
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: going to send you. Do not throw massed up or
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: to not try to light up the raidar gun. But
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: they didn't put Velocity up anywhere we could see at
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: the stadium. Oh, it's not up on any of the displays.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Then I wonder, Okay, it's possibly just screwed up, right,
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: because we got Kinnish who can't even say the name
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: of the first But I also wondered, were they trying
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: to discourage kids from throwing a hundred, which several of
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: them did anyway, But you know that's not not a thing, right,
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: don't encourage them. Nobody wants their guys to go out there.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Nobody wants someone to go get hurt pitching in the
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: future's game. And if everyone's trying to throw a hundred,
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: someone eventually going to get hurt by doing something stupid.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Chris Crawford in for in Forness, talking to my good
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: buddy Keith Law. Lazarro Montes and Michael Arroyo get promoted
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: to TRIPA A mixed results so far from Montes, he
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: struggled a little bit at that. No mixed results isn't
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: even right. But there's only twenty seven at bats, so
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to get too concerned about that. Michael
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Arroyo has performed really well, and so I'll use confirmation
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: bias and say Michael Arroyo is a really good possib
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: people based on what he's done in those six games,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: which one of those guys could help the Mariners most
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: I feel like I have a much higher degree of confidence.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: You know, Arroyo coming up and performing this year, Mantoza
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: is the higher ceiling. Arroyo actually come charge the better prospects.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: They just took, like a better confidence he's going to hit. Honestly,
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: Mantas obviously has the huge ceilings on pace for close
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: to fifty home runs this year, and yeah he could
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: do that. He came up for a week, he might
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: get a hold of a couple. But if he's up
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: for longer than that, I think pictures are going to
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: exploit it, because pictures in double A were exploiting It's
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: a pretty high strikeout rate. For Yeah, he's young for
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: the level, but still for hit or I think of
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: the caliber, who's got that speed, he's got strength. You know,
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: everyone wants into be the next year in Alvarez, and
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: he's pretty clearly not. You're never struck out at this
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: rate anywhere. But you know, to me, I might not
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: have promoted him, honestly, I might have said, you need
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: to think you're we need you to focus on more contact,
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: especially in the zelle. It's not a knock on his
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: ultimate heelings. But I find it hard to look at
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: the stat line and say, well, he really he's finished
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: with Double A, he's got nothing less to learn. Sure
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: he was, he got to his share home runs, but
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: the rest of the stat line is kind of concerning.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: How about concerning? I don't want to say it's bad.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say it's scary. So I'm not
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: trying to sound to some kind of alarm here. He's
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: a twenty one year old in double A. I just
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: think there's more more work for him to do. Was
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: a Royal is closer to being major League ready?
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I got to be honest, I was very surprised that
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Mantes got the call. I wasn't surprised by a Royal
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: because after kind of a slower start, he's been really
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: good in Double A. And you know, just that the
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: profile of a guy who could as a potential just
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: even a bench bat or no Mariner fans hate this
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: term right now, a potential potential platoon bat as a
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: right handedator. I can see my producer I'm giving me
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: an ugly look, and I totally get it. We are
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: hearing about platoons. Hey, speaking of platoons, Keith. I got
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: to ask you about Dan Wilson because I don't know
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: if you remember this. I had you on probably a
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: month ago, maybe a month and a half, and we
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: talked about the start for the Mariners not being the best.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: But and you're saying, probably not a reason to panic,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: but you mentioned some concerns with Dan Wilson, and Dan
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Wilson's concerns seem to have spread considerably, and there is
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of talk. And as a national guy, as
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: a guy who doesn't have a connection to Seattle, can
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: you tell us what the national perspective of Dan Wilson
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: as a manager is.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I don't think there's all that much
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: of one. And it's because it's Seattle, right, It's just
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: where the nets and I mean there's just a large
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: market bias and who gets coverage, right, not in favoring
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: certain teams, right that there's just I don't hear a
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: lot of talk about Dan Wilson. I mean, right now,
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: nobody's talking a lot about managers because we're deep up
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: and you know it's making a change. Also, there's always
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: the contingent of Yankee fans that want Aaron Boon fired.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Regardless of how they're doing or whether it's at all
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: part of the problem or the solution. They just exist.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: But no, I can honestly say, I don't think I've
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: had anybody mentioned Wilson in a positive or negative context
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: in weeks. I don't think he's great at the practical stuff.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: I can't speak to how he is in the clubhouse
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: and managing people. I do think there's some merit in
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: saying looking at a team and saying, hey, what are
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: they outperforming or underperforming? If they're run scored or they're
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: underlying stats, and yeah, I look at the Mariners of
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: the team that's underperformed. I also don't think Dan Wilson
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: is the reason kalorally has created when they've gotten so
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: little production from several of their major offensive contributors last year,
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: and firing him, not that you're suggesting this, for firing
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: him wouldn't change anything. Ultimately, the hitters got a hit,
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: and then Danielson is going to look like Genus Keith.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: La I got to ask you one more question. If
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: you were if you were Pobo Depoto, or if you
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: were justin Hollander, and you take a look at this
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: baseball team, right now, how active would you be on
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: the trade market.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: They're the best team on paper in the AOS. They
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: should be buyers, full stop, absolutely whatever, and there's multiple
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: ways they could potentially help this club. That's what they
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: should be doing. It is a maybe not everybody is available,
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: but you are pushing most of your chips into the center.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: This division is so winnable. They are the best team
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: on paper, they have pitching star plus. I'm not trading
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Kate Anderson. I'm probably not trading Ryan Sloan, but just
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: about anybody else might think would be available. Obviously, and
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: if I was getting Superstar, I'm not trading him for
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: a rental. I'm not trading them for true schoogle. Nothing.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: The Marriners need another starter. But if you were getting
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: a difference maker and you had control beyond this year,
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: I'd at least be open to it, and they they
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: should be doing that. They should be trying to match
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: out this major league roster as much as possible because
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: eighty five wins might take that division and that is
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: well within reach for this Mariti shroster.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: If you would have given me the bad answer after
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: that hot dog thing, I don't know if I would
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: ever have you on again? To be honest with you, Keith, Yes,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I mean I wholeheartedly agree with you. It's going to
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: be fascinating to see what they do. And speaking of
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: what you do, tell everybody about what you do at
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: the athletic please and thank you.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: So I'm a national baseball writer. I cover prospects in
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: the draft, so my whole week has largely been writing
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: about the future game. And then I wrote up all
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: thirty teams draft classes, everybody in the top five rounds
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: and anybody of interest beyond that. So yesterday I had
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: to think of what day it was today. So on
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: Wednesday my Al West draft recaps went up.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: You can go there and see everything I have to
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: say about the players.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: The Mariners, Tuck awesome stuff, Keith. I'm sure I'll talk
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: to you soon and I'll be sending you via gold
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Belly some Seattle hot dogs.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, lock you out every social media platform, you.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: And everyone else, my friend. Thanks so much again to Keith.
• 56:08
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  Speaker 1: Chris Crawford in for I Forness. Thanks again to Keith
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Law for joining us. Really interesting conversation. That guy, he
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: just knows a lot about everything, but his opinions on
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: hot dogs are garbage.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just Seattle dog is e eat. It's so good,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: elite and Okay, the thing that got me, Yeah, who
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: hates cream cheese? I'm sorry.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I don't love it like I love it.
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: So I like it.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: And my mom used to make this dip that she
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: called olet, which was cream cheese and green onions and
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: chili without beans and cheese that I just I grew
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: up on. In most of it, it was like seventy
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: five percent cream cheese. And I'm a big fan of
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Costcos cheesecake, which is about ninety seven percent cream cheese,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: So I get it from that. But you know, there's
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: a texture thing that some people don't love. They don't
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: love soft cheeses. But I'm just telling you, if you've
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: never had a Seattle dog and you don't have dietary
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: restrictions that keep you from eating it, try it. Just
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: just try it once. Don't don't. Don't be a hater
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: like Keith Laies. So I thought that conversation was interesting,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: particularly I was glad and because Keith is a very
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: analytical guy. Sometimes they can have a tendency and I
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: put myself in this category two to be a someone
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: who plays things safe and would not be all in.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: The fact team mentioned that Ryan Sloan could even possibly
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: be a trade candidate was surprising because that's a guy
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: he has as a top ten prospect in all of baseball,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: and those guys just don't get moved anymore. Yeah, they
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: just don't. Last year we saw Leo Devreies move, which
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: was stunning. In the Mason Miller trade, some talk about
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Mason Miller potentially being available, by the way, which is, oh, Seattle.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Hey, if you want a true like something that you
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: absolutely need, Yeah, it would help your bullpen. Yeah, like probably,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say affordable in terms of the
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: cost you want to give up, but more so than
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: like any other major bat that you can get it right.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: And that's the question. Will San Diego have the sucking
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: cost fallacy? And we'll talk about this more tomorrow because
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: we're gonna do the Nation League. But will they say,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: because we gave up a guy who was ranked by
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of people as the number two prospect in baseball,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: do we have to trade this guy for something that
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: is of that ilk You're not gonna get the number
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: two prospect in baseball because it's Leo Devree. Why would
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Oakland make that trade? And yes, I said Oakland, and
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I will continue to say Oakland, but I will be
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: curious to see what they do. So I'm looking at
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: the American League standings and they are depressing but also
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: kind of fascinating because Andrews, I look at this and
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: I see three teams that are not at all in
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: playoff contention, the Kansas City Royals, the Oakland Athletics, and
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Angels. Everybody else is within a shout
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: everybody else. And what is really made this trade market
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: interesting is how well Boston and Baltimore have played lately.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: That's true because Boston has played themselves right back into
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: it and Baltimore. You know they I still am not
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: a believer in that team, But there are only a
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: couple of games out so and also, and here's where
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: this also is interesting. There's just not a lot of
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: interesting trade targets in the American League. The National League's
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: gonna so much more fun to watch. But I look
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: at these rosters, and I look at the Angels are
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: a disaster. They are such a bad baseball team, and
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: outside of one guy, I don't know how much interest
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: I have in any of these guys. Yeah, and that
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: one guy is unrealistic. Mike Trout is not getting traded
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: to the Seattle Mariners. It's just not going to get
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: at all. If the Philadelphia Phillies make a call, because
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Mike Trout has a no move call, I always say
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: no move, that's not what it is in baseball. Has
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: a no trade cause justifiably so, for what he has
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: had to put up with with the Angels, I don't
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: think he would accept the majority of trades. I think
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: he is very happy in Los Angeles and he would
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: like to turn this thing back around. But if Philadelphia called,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: I think it would be a different conversation because he
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: is such a part of the Philadelphia community that I
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: think that's a possibility.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I think I agree with that, and
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: you definitely see that his fandom lies there. But I
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: agree with you. I think he is definitely comfortable in LA.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe he doesn't like the pressure of winning all the time.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: He just you know, plays baseball and that's an off season.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: You know, if that's what you want, good for you.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: But like it's frustrating because I want to see that.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: I want to see him in the part you'll be
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: the best player of this generation or one of them?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: I should say one of them, Yeah, play one postseason game,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: you know, or series, I should say two games.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: I have an autographed card of Mike Trout and King
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Goofy Junior that I stare at all the time because
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: it's just a both of them have well, Griffy's signature
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: is perfect and then Mike Trout has kind of a
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: unique one. But I mean, those are two huge parts
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: of me growing up a baseball fan, and I would
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: love to see Mike Trout not have what happened to
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Griffy that he doesn't end up getting a championship. But
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: I look at that team and I don't see really
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: a match for Seattle. I look at the Athletics and
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: I really don't see a match for Seattle because that
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: is a team that is so much built for going forward.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: The guys you'd be interested in the Athletics would say why,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: why would we move this guy? Like I'd love to
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: try and get Nick Kurtz to come play for the
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Seattle Mariners. I would love to see the Mariners go after.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: You know, Shae lang E Leers wants to rotate with
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Cal Rawlyly and be the DH slash catcher. That would
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: be a fun one to have, and especially as a
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: right handed hitter, I think that would be something. But
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: I don't really see a match there. Kansas City's a
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: little bit of an interesting one because you're not gonna
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: get Bobby Witt. They're not gonna trade Jacques kagleanon. But
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: I think there's some guys that you could potentially look
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: at here that could be a helper for the Mariners.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Mike hel Garcia, who has signed a contract extension, has
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: not been great this year. I do think would make
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: the Seattle Mariners better. I'd feel more comfortable with him
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: in their infield than some of the guys that they've
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: been playing. Vinnie Pasquantino was someone I was a big
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: fan of and just hasn't been able to put it together.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: There's some pitchers like Michael Waka is an All Star,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: which is ridiculous, and I understand that that's partially because
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: of the fact that, you know, they had to have one,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: but they got two, didn't they did? They have Bobby
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Wood and of course Michael Waka overload and Gilbert is
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: an absolutely indefensible decision by whoever made that decision. And
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: I know who made that decision, but I I just
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: don't get sometimes how these things work. Daniel Lynch would
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: be an interesting addition to the bullpen. But I look
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: at those three non contenders anders and I don't see
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: a hell of a lot of excitement for the Seattle
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: Mariners in terms of the potentially.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, list those teams again so I can kind of
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: in my head think the.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Angels, Yeah, the Oakland Athletics and the Kansas
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: City Royals.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Pasquantino would be an interesting one. It's another lefty. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of with you. Maybe a couple of bullpen
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: stuff here and there. The other thing that a lot
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: of people think about is do you only look at
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: the non contenders as a trade target. There are teams
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: that will trade that are contending, Like the Mariners were
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: one of them in twenty twenty three when they traded
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Paul Sewald to the Arizona Diamondbacks. They weren't full on
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: selling at that point. They were trying selling to buy
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: right so to speak, and they got them dom Canzone,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: who is one of the best offensive players of the
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: team this year. So now there are you would have
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: to kind of do a win win sort of both
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: teams get something for right now situation, which I think
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: is actually more realistic than everyone's saying, Oh, just trade
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: the farm to go get one of those big guys,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: right Baltimore and Boston are gonna be the big ones
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: that I'm looking at, because those those teams both have
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: some availability in if they were to kind of come
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: back down to earth. They've just been so hot lately
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: that it kind of has come at a really bad time.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: I was looking at Wilson Contrera's or William ConTroll Wilson
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Contrace Yeah, yeah, I get those neame mixed up all
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: the time. I think he would have been a perfect
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: edition to just slot in at DH he could play
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: first base. He could even emergency be made an emergency
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: catcher if you absolutely needed to. But again, just a
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: guy who hits lefties. That's the main thing you need.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: So we'll talk more about that. We'll talk about the Orioles.
• 1:05:11
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• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Tigers who could also make some sense. We'll also talk
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  Speaker 1: good buddy Mike Benton was in for Greg today and
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  Speaker 1: talking a bunch about some hockey stuff. The schedule comes
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: out today. That's always fun. It's not like the NFL
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: where you want to go all eighty four games now
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Anders and go win loss win, loss, win, loss, But
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: it's always fun to see really interesting conversation that mister
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Benton had with Bobby McMahon today. And you know, I
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: haven't had a really good chance to talk to you
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: about the decision to bring him back. Number one. I
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: think it's something they had to do. It felt like
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: a necessity after you make that trade. And also just
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: based on this free agency class being so mediocre and
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: so many guys getting and we can say this in hockey,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: I think more than other sports where the cap is
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: such a hard cap, so overpaid, yeah, so overpaid, that
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: you had to be able to get a reasonable done
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: with McMahon. And I think bringing him back was an
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: absolute necessity.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it was an absolute necessity for me.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: I kind of go back and forth on this one
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: because in my opinion, just bringing Bobby McMahon back, and yes,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: you trade for Matthew Samuskevitch as well, I do think
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: there is some intrigue with him. He's always been kind
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: of buried in the depth chart in Florida. But if
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: that's the big move you made, move from a team
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: that very much missed the playoffs by a significant margin,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: severely underachieved, Sure, if that's the big move you made,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: signing a guy that was already on your team, yeah,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: then it's not enough me. So to me, you either
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: had to go one of two directions. You either had
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: to sign Bobby McMahon and bring in another big gun
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: if you're going for it, or you let him go
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: to somewhere else, let someone else overpay for him and
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: really reset lean into the youth movements have more spots
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: available for young guys to come up and get some
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: time cut their teeth, so to speak. So that's kind
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: of where I feel like, once again, the crack and
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: are doing this in between things. Sure, and I yes,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: I would. I have liked them to go and sign
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: any of the free agents that were available, probably not
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: especially at the price that they were getting right, but
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: there weren't. There were trades available we've seen, we've seen
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: some of the other ones. Obviously, Brady could Chuck to
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: Florida's a big one. There's another, you know, I look
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: at the Trevor Ziegris trade last year to Philly was
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: kind of the exact erk that I want the Kraken
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: to go for sure. So that's that's kind of where
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: I had hoped they would take in that extra step
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: as well. Instead, they're just hoping for more development once
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: again from the guys within.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: That's a really good point. And you know, in a
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: cap league also, this isn't like the Mariners signing Donovan
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Solano or Rob ref Schnyder, where it's like, Okay, the
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: moves because they are the only move becomes frustrating, right
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: It's they could still be good moves if you add
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: something to it. And I get it. They have tried.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: They have tried. They have you know, the potential trade
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: for Paneren, the Jason Robertson situation, and I think there's
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: still a chance that there's something bigger that could be
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: help something. But at this point, I'm kind of done
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: with we tried, Like I need to see something here.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: I need to see one of these moves actually happen.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: Because we criticize the Mariners for it all the time.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: They back in the day they leaked that they came
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: so close to siding. Do you remember Barry Zito, Yeah,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: where they like he we tried really hard, we just
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: couldn't get it done. There was the leaking of the gosh,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: it's just forgot Trevor's story that that deal was almost
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: done and they thought they were going to have him.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: We tried only gets you so far. And I just
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: take a look at this division anders and I see
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: so many teams that either have generational talents, Yeah, like
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: San France, What San Francisco, What San Jose has in Macklin,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: Celebrini and some other really good players, and what you
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: see Edmonton. As long as you got Connor McDavid, he
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: got a shot to do something pretty special. And there's
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: some you know Vancouver. By the way, Shane Wright might
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: be petty. I'm starting to get the idea.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Shane.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: Wright might be a little bit petty in this situation. Boy,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: it just doesn't look good. And I'll be honest with you,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: it looks worse. And I don't know, Shane Wright. I
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: have nothing, no ill will towards him whatsoever. Staring at
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: you on YouTube, Shane Wright, I hope you're doing well,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: but you don't look good in this situation right now,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: and you need to talk to your representatives because you
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: come out looking like the bad guy in this. You
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: could have made it so that the Kraken look like
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: the team that's not giving you your shot. Now you
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: kind of look like you're just somebody who wants his
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: ball and to go home. And that's not a great look.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: And that's the idea that crack and haven't given them
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: a shot is just completely not true. It's not he's
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: had two years plus he has.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: If you wanted to do the Dan biosma. There were
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: issues where he I mean, we talked about it in
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: our text tread a lot that like why is he
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: only getting fourteen minutes? Why is he getting fourteen minutes?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, I think he was getting like
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen most of the time this year, sitting along
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: those lines.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: And second power play units most of the time. And again,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: you have to earn those minutes one.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: Thousand percent, right, You can argue in twenty four twenty
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: five he earned more minutes. He was one of their
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: most productive players, and I was super excited to see
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: what this dude could do going forward. He regressed, It happens,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: he regressed, And that doesn't mean he can't turn into
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: a very solid middle six center, right Like, there's no
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: reason to think or even better, you know, he's young
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: enough that maybe he has that breakout. Sure to seventy five.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: Point yeah, not gonna be here, I don't think.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: But it's not going to be in Seattle. And that's
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: that's partially the Krakens fault, and that's a lot Shane's
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Wright's fault. And I don't think Shane Wright is taking
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: enough blank for what's going on.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: Totally agree. I think he just wants to get out.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: He's trying to do whatever you can to do so.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: But the thing is, when you do that, you kind
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: of screw the team that has you and doesn't give
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: you leverage and kind of makes them not want to
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: trade you at the end of the day because they're
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: not just going to give you up for nothing, right.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: They spent a fourth overall pick on him. Yeah, So
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: it's it's not like they want to just get rid
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: of you off the team. It's like they want probably
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: want to move let's be completely honest. Sure, but they
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: they're not going to do it for nothing, right, And
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: that's probably your big piece, as we just mentioned, if
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: they are going to go do something and really add
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: to this team and change the ceiling or whatever, that's
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: the piece that you would give up to do it.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, man, I just there's a lot
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: of questions, and Ian would point out, you mentioned the
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: superstars on maybe Anaheim or San Jose, other people in
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: the Western Conference. It's pretty loaded. Ian would point out
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: that specifically in the San Jose conversations. Yes, they have
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: a maclin Celabrini, which the crack and don't have. But
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: the rest of that roster, every other position, you can
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: say the Cracking are better at goaltending, total defenseman depth scoring.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: It's just you need that piece, we really do.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: And a lot of this is going to depend on
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: Stenberg with them as well. Like if he is that
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: floor guy that some people say, he is that guy
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: who's ready to go give you fifty five points or
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: so right now, then that's a huge addition to that
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: team because they don't need him to be a star, right,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: they just need him to be a supplemental piece. Talking
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: about San Jose, San Jose, yeah, correct, Yeah, whereas the
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: Seattle Kraken, there's some questions. I still think about the
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: supplemental pieces too. Yeah, and there is definitely not a superstar.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: Maybe the Mariners can go get one. We'll talk about
• 1:13:47
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  Speaker 1: So we've got MLB Network on in the background here,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: and they just showed the top one hundred plays of
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty sixth season. And guess what. The Seattle
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Mariners are heavily involved with the number one play. Guess
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: what it's against them because the number one play, according
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: to MLB Network is three plays. Joe Adell robbing three
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: home runs, one of the worst defensive players in baseball
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: taking away three runs in just a encapsulation of the
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: Seattle Mariner season. Because it takes a good thing to
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: almost hit a home run. Anders it takes a really
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: good thing, Yes it does. And then it takes a really, really,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: really good thing for the other team. And look, the
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: Mariners have dealt with a lot of stuff, the injuries,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: they have dealt with, the huer performance underperformance. To be sure,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: they've also been buoyed. I love that term by the
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: fact that the division sucks out loud and the American
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: League is not great. And we mentioned this before we
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: had to talk some hockey guys. But now we'll get
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: back to this baseball trade stuff because I mentioned that
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of teams that are still in contention.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: There's still two weeks to go, plus some of these
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: teams are going to fall out, and some of these
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: teams are going to take the should we sell because
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: the chances of us making the postseason might be decent,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: but our chances of doing anything in the postseason are
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: probably negligible. And do we really want to give up
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: stuff or turn down the ability ability to move stuff
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: in order to make us better? And the teams that
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: that qualifies for Boston, Baltimore, Minnesota, Detroit, and I'll throw
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: the Astros in there as well.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: I would say those teams are all in a very enviable.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Spot, and so everyone knows we're talking just American League today.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: Just American League. We're gonna do the National League, which
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: is a hell of a lot more fun because there's
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: some bad teams and then they're just some fits that
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: just really intrigue me, some really intriguing fits. But there's
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: some intriguing fits if we add in these teams as well.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: You stole Wilson Contreres for me, and I'm not happy
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: about it. Sorry, No, it's it's It just makes a
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: ton of sense. It makes a ton of sense. Now,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: Wilson Contreras does have a no trade class, so he
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: can control where he wants to go. He waived it
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: once to move from Saint Louis to Boston. Would he
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: wave it again to go to Sea I think he
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: probably would. That also could lead to if things go well,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: talking about a potential contract extension. Now, is Wilson contrere
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: is a perfect fit for the current mayor and a roster. No,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: he's a perfect fit for the lineup. But because of
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: where he plays catcher, first base, DNH, the Marriors have
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of bodies there. So here's the thing, though,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: who's saying you can't move some of those bodies along
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: with it? And potentially in a trade you take a
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: look at player like Luke Rayley, I would have no
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: problem moving him in a Wilson Contreras trade. In fact,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have a problem moving Luke Raley altogether. And
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: this is not me being a Luke real hailer. I
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: think everyone knows though I do have some issues with me,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: but I really like him and I love the I
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: love the Spurts, but there are issues. He's not a
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: great defensive player. To say he can't hit left handers
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: is to say that I'm not going to be a
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: victorious Secret swimsuit model. He just has major He'll never
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: be able to do it. Dom Canzone has figured it
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: out a little bit. Luke Raley can't. He just doesn't
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: pick up the baseball well enough. And it's there's a
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: song by ryle O Kylie that goes sometimes when you're on,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: you're really blanking on and your friends all sing along
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: and they love you, but the lows are so extreme,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah that the good seems you know what cheap, and
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: it teases you for weeks and it's absence. Now that
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: song is not about baseball, but it kind of applies
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: for Luke Raley because when he's hot, he's hot. He's
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I do believe that the
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: hot hand fallacy is not a complete fallacy, because when
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: he's so good, he's so good, and what it's bad,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: it's bad. I would move a Luke Rayley in order
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: to get a Wilson Contreras. And I would move a
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Luke Rayley to go get the guy who's number one
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: on my board for a long freaking time, and it's
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: Byron Buxton. Yeah, I would move him in a heartbeat
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: for a Byron Buxton. And Byron Buckston doesn't want to
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: get trade. Byron Buxton wants to remain a Minnesota Twin.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: The Minnesota Twins should think about themselves as well as
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: Buckston and the fact that they could go get this
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: guy a chance to contend for a championship.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: Does he have a no trade clause?
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: I believe that he does not have a no trade
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: clause because he don't. I don't think he's reached ten
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: five yet. But he is the type of guy that
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: I think you he just makes so much sense. I
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: know the injury history, and the injury history it's long.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: It's as long as any player in baseball. It's frustrating
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: because he's one of those guys that will look back
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: at no matter how well he ends.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: He has a full no trade claw.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: He does have a full note trade clause.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: I think next year it becomes a five team trade list.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: Oh interesting, so that becomes that's next year. Though, that's
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: next year, and you know you to talk about that,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: But I don't want to talk about next year. I
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: want to talk about this year. I'd be doing what
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: I could to go get a guy like that, Yeah,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: I would. I just think he makes so much sense
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: for the Seattle Mariners.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: So number one on my board would be Byron Buxton
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: and number two I think would be Wilson Contreras.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: Then we start talking to First of all, we have
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: to have the Schoogle conversation. Okay, Detroit has played themselves
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: back into it. Have they played it back into it
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: or has just everyone else been so crappy that they're
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: still well.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're saying that about Detroit, who has
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: almost the exact same record as the Mariners, to it's true.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: We can't say one team's in it and one teams
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: out of it.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: It's true. Other than the fact that Detroit is six
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: and a half back of the division and Shattle is
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: a game and a half.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: But it's not just about the division, No, it's not.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: It's the You do have the wild card standings and
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: Seattle at forty eight and forty nine, Detroit at forty
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: four and fifty two. There's not a huge difference there whatsoever.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I thought it was for I was looking
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: at the twenty fours.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: But it's still close enough that everything you say standing say,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: we won't have to talk about, you know, other stuff.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was looking at the Detroit roster while you
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: were talking Bryan Buxton there, I don't really see much,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: especially in the lineup side of things, like obviously you're
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: looking at Carry Carpenter who turns into Barry Bonds, but
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: it's another guy who, wait for it, can hit left
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: handed pitching right.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: It's true, it's true. He is extreme platoon. Yes, and
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: how well that plays in the park. Now we have
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: seen him play pretty well in the park. Yeah, but
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: there's a question mark there. I will just say this,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: if the Seattle Mariners could go get to Reschooball without
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: giving up Kate Anderson or Ryan Sloan, I would do it.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: What about my one for one in the off season?
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: Would you still take it now, Logan Gilbert for Church
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: schoobl one for one.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: Boy, Uh yeah, yeah, I think I know it too.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: I would. And it's not an insult to Gilbert. Nope,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: it's just having that ace for a postseason.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: So we just talked about it earlier, right, Yeah, the
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: Mayriors don't.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: Really have one, don't And you know you can win
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: with that one, you know, but it's harder. Yeah, it's
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of it's really hard. And people point to
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: the fact that the Mariners beat Scooble twice in the postseason. No,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: they didn't. Maybe the Tigers beat the Tigers. They didn't
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: beat scoobl He was phenomenal and he he's as big
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: of a reason why they were even in the postseason
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: in the first place. If I could do it, I
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: would go do it now. I don't think it's realistic.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think Seattle has any interesting giving up the
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: stuff that they need to go get him.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: I just feel like, again, I mean, he's the same
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: logic I did in the offseason. Sure, you trade a
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: year and a couple months of Gilbert for a couple
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: months of trek Scubel. Basically that limits we just talked about.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: If you can only sign one long term, that takes
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: him out of the conversation. So theoretically you're not signing
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: him anyway. Sure right, That narrows it down to Kirby
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: Wu and Miller, and then you get an ACE for
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: this year. And I don't know, man, I don't think
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: you have to worry about extending him. Maybe maybe you
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: find a way to get it done, but I don't
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: see that happening. It would be just for this year.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: Well, and let me play Devil's advocate with the extension
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: real quick. If you are to reach Schooble, there is
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: some motivation to get a contract extension done before this
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: CBA runs out.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: Good point. That's a good point because.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: You don't want to have those potential rules. And for
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: those who missed it, MLB is proposing contract limits of
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: five years, and I believe contract total value of two
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: hundred million. I believe it could be less than that,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: but it's it's smaller. Yeah, it's certainly smaller. Whereas if
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: Tariek Schooble enders free agency, we're talking about one of
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: the biggest pitching probably the biggest pitching contract of all
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: time and justifiably so. Justifiably so.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people were thinking going
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: into the season, and just in terms of just ability
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: between him and Paul Skeans, it was very even, very even.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: He has started to separate himself, yeah, a little bit.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: He's phenomenal. And the fact that he has a little
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: bit of a Seattle tie played in college.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: There the RedHawks.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough. I just think it's something that
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think the Mariners are willing to do. But
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: I'm disappointed the Mariners aren't willing to do it now
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: looking at some Toronto's interesting because I feel like Toronto
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: feels the same way that Seattle does. That they are
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: there's pressure here and I would imagine they're going to
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: make some moves here to make they are they are.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: It's just, you know, I think Vladimir Guerrera Junior is
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: going to be a lot better in the second half.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: You know, made the right decision not to participate in
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: the All Star Game to get that back healthy. I
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: can't see it there. Baltimore, I see as a much
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: more realistic team to trade way and there is somebody here,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: and I can't say it's an original idea. I know
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: Jeff Passing posted it. Taylor Ward as a guy who
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: hit thirty six homers last year, who has a three
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: eighty seven on base percentage this year, has not hit
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: for the same type of power. It's been interesting to say,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: and it can't be It can't just completely be blamed
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: on what they call Waltimore anymore, because that's not that's
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: not the issue. Also, a guy who's killed the Mariners
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: in the past, and be nice to keep him away
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: from doing that. Also, a guy I don't think would
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: cost very much either.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: So if you're looking at the platoons, Yeah, does a
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: lot better versus lefties than.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: Right crushed left handed pitching and still be.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: Okay. He can play every day.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: He's usable guests race. By the way, another one for
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: Kansas City that I was thinking about, Lane Thomas, a
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: guy who has crushed lefties in the past. Yeah, but
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: I understand fans fans of the Mariners, not me, but
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: fans of me too. There's like seven of them. I
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: understand that you have been saying you've been burnt by
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: the platoon stuff is the understatement of understatements. But you
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: can't completely ignore it, right, because watch Luke Raley when
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: he stays in to hit against the lefty. Watch it
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: tell me that there wouldn't be a better option there.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: And yeah, Rob Reschneider had a big history of hitting
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: lefties and then he just didn't do it. Donovan Solano
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: had a history of hitting lefties and he just didn't
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, there are guys like Christinorfia and other
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: players that the Mariners have added. Yeah, I no, that
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: just haven't worked out. I don't think that means that
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: you have to stop trying. In fact, I would argue
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: it means you have to try even harder to find
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: these guys. And I think Taylor Ward would make him
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: a better baseball team.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: I think I have a good text here. Okay, I
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: agree with you on Taylor the word by the way,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: Sorry I didn't that's okay. Four to five. And I
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: kind of thought about this too, And I was looking
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: through the rosters. What about something like Royce Lewis, little little, Yeah,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: take a shot in the dark. There, Sure a super
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: highly tied prospect having a down year. Sure can play
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: every day at third base, which we need, and a
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: right handed better So I.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: Think that's a great shout out four two five. That's
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: a really good text and it's a really good suggestion.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: I would say it's a better suggestion for the off
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: season than a guy you're adding this year, just because
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: that might be something there you want to rework swing stuff.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: You want to get him healthy. And unfortunately Lewis and
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: Byron Buxton both have had massive injury issues. And you know,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: as we are again, where in the world is Brandon Donovan.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: We finally answered that question that he's playing in rehab games.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: But health is a bit of a skill. It's not
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: the skill that I think some people think there's bad
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: luck with injury stuff. But if you keep asking guys
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: who are injury prone to not be shame on you
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, right, shame on you a little bit.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: So I think Roys Lewis is a really good idea,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: but probably a better idea for twenty twenty seven. Some
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: bullpen additions that are guys on those teams that you
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: could think about, right, Hellsley unfortunately hurt and didn't pitch
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: great after coming back from his recent injury. Maybe something
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: you can explore. Baltimore has a couple of relievers. I
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: think that you could be looking at Yeps Kansas City,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: Yenni er Cano, Kansas City has some guys that I
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: think you could look at as well. You're not, I think,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: looking to get that eighth or ninth inning arm. I
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: feel okay in that area if you can get one.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: It depends on how you feel about munnos.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: But yes, I see, I feel fine about mood. Yes,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: I feel fine, but I probably do too. Yes, Now,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: eighth inning, it's a little more of a question mark.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: Right yeause I like their back end guys. It's kind
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: of a bi committee. I just want to add depth.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: I want to make it so there's no option to
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: have a low leverage reliever coming in a high leverage
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: reliever situation, because we know Dan Wilson loves to do that.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: So make it sure, make it not even a possibility.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: By the way, watching Casey Legomina close out that game
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: the other day, just like so poetic, so poetic. You
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: have to get another arm. I mean, you have to
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: get another bullpen arm. There's just not there's no It
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: would be inexcusable to not add, even if it's a
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: guy that is you use in the sixth or seventh inn. Yeah,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: that's a name that makes a ton of sense, a
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: bit of a revitalization too. He's had some funny comments too,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: about like because there was a thing where he hit
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: somebody and they were like, did you mean to do it?
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: He goes, no, I just suck look at my ur
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was good. I'm not you know. You like
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: to add some personality too. I feel good about the
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: lefties in the bullpen. I feel good about Ferrara Inspire,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: even though spires a little bit of down right now.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: I think that's more a case of sometimes I think
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: Mariner fans believe that relievers are supposed to have an
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: era of zero point zero zero. And by the way,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: I'm just looking at this Lance mcculler's trade, by the way,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: and they Houston is an interesting one to me. What
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: if Jeremy Paine is available? How why selling high? The
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: Houston Astros have believed in this for a long time,
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: and I wouldn't do it. You don't think you would
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: do it? Is it just because he couldn't picture Jeremy
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: Painey of like exhorret stuff for the Mariners.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: Well that and you have a shortstop for the future.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: I think you do too. But I will say this,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: even if it helps you this year US stop gap
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: for putting, it will not be a failure of cult
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: Emerson goes to the miners because you go get another shortstop.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: It will be a failure if you move Jp Crawford
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: to shortstop for cult Emerson. I will literally not allow
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: ian forness on the air if that happens.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: If they.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: You will see me, Walter Jones, I furness out of
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: this chair because I'm going to do three hours of
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: talking about how big of a mistake that would be.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: Why do you think it's a mistake Because he's the
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: worst freaking short defensive shortstop in baseball. It's so bad
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: he cannot do it.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: So even if it's the right thing to move Emerson
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: down right, which it might be, it might be, it
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: might be, do you think it is?
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: No, not yet. I give him. I give him just
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: a little more time. I give him to the deadline.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: I give him to the deadline. And I've seen just
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: enough spurts, just enough spurts. And again, not a failure.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: If Colt Emerson isn't ready to be a three wins
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: shortstop right now, not a failure. But a lot of
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: talk about the Randy Rose Arena trading stuff as well.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, the only way I'm doing it is if
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: it makes you better for twenty twenty six. And I
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: just don't see a Randy A. Rose Arena trade that
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: makes you better for twenty twenty s Now.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: I understand the people that are kind of come in
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: the arguments and say, like, hey, if it's a it's
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: a culture change. You see what he did in those
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: last couple of games in Tampa, and you know you
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: trade him that sends a message all that stuff. I
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: just yes, but also no, I think there's more issues
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: than just Randy Rose Arena. And in terms of like
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: the focus topic around the Mariners this year, Yes, he's
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: kind of a poster child for it, but he's always
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: been that way. Sure, yeah, so, and he's been your
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: best offensive player this year, So that's the big thing.
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  Speaker 1: So Anders and I were just talking. This is Chris Crawford,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, and free inf neess. HI appreciate everybody
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: who is tuned in. This is always fun. I will
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: be back tomorrow, which will be a lot of fun.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about the National League trade candidates, We'll talk
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: about some other fun stuff. I tabled my Seahawk conversation
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: because I want to make sure we have enough time
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: to do it.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: We'll do We'll get into that extensively tomorrow because I
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: think it goes beyond just the fans. Yes, considering the
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl champions and the NFL Top one hundred lists.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, we'll talk a lot about that because
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: I have not got a chance to see that.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: Just oh oh my god. You need to look at
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: it when you get otway cannot wait. Goes into the
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: exact narrative that you're going.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: Doom scrolling is going to be fun. Let's take a
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: look at some texts.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: Let's do it three six oh kind of along the
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: lines that we are we're talking about. Right before the
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: end of the break there, I saw a couple of
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: Seattle pages say that they're floating the idea of trading
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: at Randy Rose Arena. Why this and do the Mariners
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: management leak that out to reporters. It's certainly possible. Now,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: the Mariners are usually a pretty tight vested group. I
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: think I said that wrong, But you guys know what
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: I'm saying that they are. They tighten it and they
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: play it close to the chest. I just conflated two things.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: I went to public school.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: I just have my doubts. But I will say this, man,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: that effort on Saturday and Sunday was just it's inexcusable, man.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: And I just kind of wonder how happy Randy is.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: To be honest, now, I look pretty happy after he
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: hit that home run and he was playing the baseline,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: you know, and he has been their most consistent offensive
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: player by a long shot, and you would probably be
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: taking a step back if you trade him unless you're
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: getting like something really, really good. And I just don't
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: know what makes sense here. But as for whether or
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: not it would be possible, whether or not they would
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: be leaking that, sure, I just I.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: Go to the same logic that I've always said with
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: Luis Castillo. I believe Luis Castillo has more value to
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: the Mariners than he does in the trade market.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: Entirely possible. It's just there's a couple of teams in
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: the NL Central that have just been decimated with injuries
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: to their starting rotation that it changes a little bit
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: because the high floor of Castillo. Knowing that the contract
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: well Hi is not in Albatroz, there could be something there.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: Recent text here from two five to three, can you
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: please look at what a trade for young Hu Lee
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: from the Giants would look like. I think you'd be
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: a tremendous lead off hitter for our team. I'll just
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: tell you right now that is one I will definitely
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: be talking about tomorrow. Oh but I do like it.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: I do like it. It's it's not a perfect fit
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: because of the left handedness, but.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: He's sort of platoon proof.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think well because of the contact, right, yes,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: because of and you know there's major power concerns there.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: But I think it makes sense. I'm going to have
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: somebody on to talk about the Giants by the way tomorrow,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: because I think the Seattle Mariners. The only team I
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: can say.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: Is truly more.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: Disfunctional ish right now is the San Francisco Giants. Man,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: they are a disaster and you need to win this series.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: Oh do you need to do you switch managers with
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: the Giants.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: No, No, Videello is a disaster. The fact that he
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: has a job right now is I don't think Buster
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: Posey or Joe Vidello should have the jobs that they do.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: That being said, if you want to hire me, I
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: am willing to go work for you. We talked a
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: lot about the World Cup text year from the three
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: six l Watching the World Cup at a local watering
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: hole has been very fun, non soccer folks asking questions
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: about the game and actually getting it and learning about
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: the EPL. I think that's exactly what I was hoping for. Yeah,
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what I was hoping for, because this is
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: what the game can do, and I want the game
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: to keep growing. I'm not asking for it to use
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: surp basketball or football or baseball. I'm asking for it
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: to continue on the growth so that being a top
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: sixteen team isn't good enough anymore where we can have
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: realistic expectations. Because I'm just gonna be honest with you, Andrews,
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: this was their best chance of doing something.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah for a while, this was their best team that
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: they've had in my lifetime.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: And having the home field advantage matters.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: And probably the best manager they've had as well.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: Absolutely a lot of text about that. This is interesting too,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: also from the three six, So, coming off World Cup
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: in our own country, why is the Sounders game tonight
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: not a nationally televised event? We need to roll with
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: the soccer momentum growth with the biggest rivalry in MLS.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: Totally agree, I do accept. I kind of get on
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: MLS for this scheduling mishap because for me, at least
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: as a sports fan, when I watch things, I usually
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: go in like phases, you know what I mean, And
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: having a big MLS game come right after the World
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: Cup semifinals feels a little like, oh wait, there's MLS
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: kind of going on. I'm still mentally focused on the
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: World Cup, you know what I mean? And maybe that's
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: me being totally bought into the World Cup. No, but
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: like it, put that game after the World Cup final, like.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe a week after. That's a great point.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: If this was like Sounders versus Real Salt Lake, Like fine, okay,
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: I know you got to get your season back on
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: going before it ends, right, but putting this game while
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: the World Cup is still going on is a big,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: big question mark for me, I don't know, No, that's
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: just me.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: I totally agree. I agree with everything you said, and
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: I'm uncomfortable with how.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: Much Marcus and the two six says it was on
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: Peacock and Better because it was Spanish announcers talking about
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: the World Cup. I still won't watch the MLS, but
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: I'll be watching EPL matches. Yeah, so you can find
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: EPL matches obviously on Peacock and NBC as well. So
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: that's kind of the I was talking about before. Marcus.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: I know you're a huge baseball guy. You texted all
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: the time asking about Mariner stuff. But I'm happy to
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: see you have at least somewhat more of an interest
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: in soccer after the World Cup. Having those superstars that
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: play in England and France and Spain and Germany and
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: all that stuff, How much of it has really interested you?
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: To watch Earl Alland play for Manchester City now, to
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: watch Kilian and Bape play for Real Madrid, to watch,
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: you know, all those big players play at their big clubs.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: So that's gonna be the effect that I'm looking for,
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: less so than the MLS side of things.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: It's totally fair, it's totally fair. I just want to
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: see it grow, That's all I'm asking, and it's because
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: I just need to sell a lot of soccer cards
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: to get out of debt. Marcus also said I've watched
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: All Star games with Griffy and Garrett Anderson. Also they're
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: derbies along with cal but it's not something i'll watch.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: It was the best for the longest time, but now
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: it's time to get rid of All Star games in
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: every sport. Honestly, that's what I would do too, is
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: I would have maybe a couple of fun of and
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: keep the home run Derby I always thought a really
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: fun one, but it would be such an injury risk.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: Would be best catchers versus best stolen base guys to
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: have some sort of competition there, Like, Yeah, I think
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: it would be fun to watch, but it would be
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: just a logistical nightmare. But I think at this point
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: it's just hey, you're an a Hey, now you're an
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: All Star. To quote our good friends smash Mouth, get
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: the award, get the NOD, take a couple of days off,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: get better, And because this just isn't great TV, I'll
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: just tell you this much. It ain't going anywhere. Fox
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: pays a lot of money for that stuff, and they
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: are not going to just let you get away with that.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: I meant to mention this earlier Netflix. I know you're
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: new to this. You got to get better. You've got
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: to get better the home run derby, which I thought
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: was fantastic, by the way, and this is absolutely the
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: format that should be going forward. I can actually tell
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: when home runs go and I you don't worry about
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: a guy getting so tired afterwards. It becomes nonsense. But
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: and you know what, I'm a huge Will Ferrell fan.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: That was so hard to watch for those who missed it. Yeah,
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: him doing the introductions and stuff, and I get it.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: They were trying to play off the semi pro thing.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: And that's one of my favorite Will Ferreo moments. I
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: think about him saying, she clan she wants to be
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: an astronaut. I don't think she could do it. I
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: think about that line constantly because it just cracks me
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: up so much. But there's a time and to play,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: and they're just their coverage overall that you can tell
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: they're trying. You can tell that they've made some financial
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: effort into it. They gotta get better, Yeah, because they're
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: gonna keep getting more and more stuff, and I need
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: the I need the presentation to be better than it is.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Two six, Is there a way to emphasize some
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: pressure on to Poto? He deflects a lot of negative attention.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: And at this point it's how slash what will Jerry do?
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: And how slash what jered? What did Jerry do? He
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: always does minimum, usually too late, and after everyone has
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: has asked him to do it. The bad decisions are
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: his usually, and he deflects pressure needs to be more meaningful.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: He doesn't really have competition for his job. So really,
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: just like, is there any reality in which Jerry Depoto
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: feels pressure for his job in the next reasonable future.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so, and I
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: will give Jerry to Poto this like the Seattle Mariners
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: have been super aggressive at the trade deadline the last
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: couple of years. This is not a case of we tried.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: They went out and got into two best bats last year,
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: and they got the best bat the year before that.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: So they've done stuff. They've added to the bullpen, they
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: have made supplemental moves. My more issue is what they
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: have not done in the off season. Yeah, like, that's
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: my biggest issue. But here's the thing, guys, Jerry Depoto
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: has put himself. Kevin Shockey might made this point a
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: long time ago. It's put himself in a perfect position.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and almost even more so now at Dan Wilson
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: as the manager, because you have someone who has questionable credentials, yeah,
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: and makes mistakes in big moments and all the attention
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: goes to him instead of what the roster construction looks like. Right,
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: And that wasn't necessarily the case when Scott Service was
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: been managing the team.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: Real quick four one zero NHL four Nations was the
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: best all star format releaser years thousand percent. Yeah, it's
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: a great point. And that's you know. I brought this
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: up with Ian last year. That's what I would love
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: to see is baseball turn the World Baseball Classic into
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: something where every four years you play the World Baseball Classic.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: Every two years you do something where you have the
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: best players from the United States, the Dominican Republic, Japan.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: I always struggle with what I would like the fourth
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: country to be. It was Cuba for a while, but
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: they've fallen on kind of hard times a little bit.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe you rotate. We have a tournament Venezuela differently j Absolutely, yeah, absolutely,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: something where you have something like that and just have
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: a couple of days of baseball there. That's what I
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: would do. Can't do it every year because it would
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: lose its luster, but we get tired of everything.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: I agree, and I do think that having the World
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: Baseball Classic in general during the middle of the season
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: is better than having it right before the season.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: A thousand percent agreed, other than the fact that MLB
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: is just never gonna let it happen. You know what
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: never should have been happened by someone allowing me to
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: talk to Dick Fane. But I'm gonna do it anyway.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three kids a RFM, Chris
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: Crawford and Free in for Neess and joining me now
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: is man, we've known each other for quite some time now,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: haven't we?
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 6: How long has it been?
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: Man, I've been well, Molly Watt Monday started in twenty
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: twenty one, but I've been coming on kjr R. It
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: feels like since way too long. It makes me feel
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: too ten years right, good amount, good amount, and uh
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: most of them quite quite good. You know, there was
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: a long time where you just you couldn't respect me.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: And I understand that, but now I am it was
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: it was a.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 5: Respect thing, it was a it was a disagreement thing.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 5: It wasn't a respect thing at all. No, And uh,
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 5: you know, it turns out recently, though, we have been
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 5: more simpotical, I would say over the last year, probably
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 5: since the beginning when the Mary when I first turned,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 5: because I was a the Poto lover, sure in comparison
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 5: to most.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 6: And I still think he's done a very good job
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 6: of building this franchise.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 5: However, when when he didn't do anything at the pre
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 5: twenty twenty five sure, I was like, come on, man,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 5: did you yes the Donovans, which did you really just
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 5: pull the wool over our eyes and get us to
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 5: the precipice? And then yet they you know, but he
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 5: does it at the He does it at the trade deadline,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 5: and he's done it at the trade deadline multiple times,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 5: and I am counting on him to do it at
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 5: the trade deadline again this year. And you were talking
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 5: about some of the name I agree with. I agree
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 5: with both names you're throwing. I'd probably have busing and
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 5: contraras is my number one and number.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: Two as well. Yeah, and it's it's gonna be hard.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if you saw this, and maybe
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: you want to talk about this during your show today,
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: but did you see his comments to the Seattle yesterday? Yes,
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: I did. The best players we can acquire are the players.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: That's true. Boy, that's a tough one. I also think
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: we overrate Like what a GM says, what do you
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: expect him to say? Right, Like we guarantee we're gonna
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: go get these two players or something like that.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 5: I think most years I would have read that and gone,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 5: oh my god, but this year because our stars are
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 5: so crappy, Like, he's exactly right.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: It's true, there's a difference between him being right but
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: also not saying that. Yeah, I mean, yes, the same thing.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a good point.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 4: True.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 5: I just think that he was I mean, we're looking
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 5: right at cal Raley, right, I mean, that's what we're
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 5: looking at. And basically what he's saying is sorry, but
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 5: we're not going to get a hit or as good
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 5: as cal Rawley right at the trade deadline.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 6: So cal Rawley needs to be right.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: But fans take that as saying like, Okay, that means
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: you're not going to add anything at the deadline, right right.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 5: But I think he said enough, at least he said
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 5: enough to me in that interview that made me think
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 5: that he was going to attempt to add a legitimate
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 5: right handed bat at the trade deadline. I mean he said, well,
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 5: let's see, he said, would be unusual to trade for
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 5: a major guiroster in a position we are to answer
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 5: other problems.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 6: But it's not out of the question.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: Oh here we go.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 5: Definitely going to help the bullpen, and we'd like to
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 5: resolve our clear flaw for facing left handed pitching.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 6: Sure, I mean that tells me he's going to get
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 6: a right dead better right, I.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: Would say so. I would also say that is also
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: a manage your expectations. There are so many teams that
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: are in this right now, right, like I would anders
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: and I went over the list that there are three
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: teams in the American League who are out of it.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: It's Kansas City Oakland to which I'm going to keep
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: calling until I'm dead, and the Los Angeles Angels. And
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: there's just not a lot that you would win from
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: those teams.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: Baltimore is still technically in it. Boston has definitely played
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: themselves back into it, So who knows if Wilson Contreres
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: will actually be available? Right the al Central everybody except
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: for the Royals are still in this thing. It makes
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: it difficult because what this third wild Card has done
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: is it's made It's made it possible for teams to
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: go get players, but it's also made teams say, we
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: got to hang on to guys until the very last moment,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: because if we can get into this thing, who the
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: hell knows what's going to happen.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 5: We got a few extra days because it's not till
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 5: August third, right this year's because of the weekend, I think.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 5: So okay, So, I mean there gives Necks an extra
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 5: seventy two hours that you don't normally have before the deadline.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 6: That's an extra series.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 5: Sure, it's an extra series deep into the season that
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 5: you can see who's in and who's out. But I
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 5: think you're right about the teams that you mentioned.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 6: Some of those teams.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 5: I think that the Orioles are going to be falling
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 5: out of this thing. I think the Astros are going
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 5: to be falling out of this thing. The Twins very
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 5: well could be fallen out of this thing. I mean,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 5: there those are teams. I mean, those are teams that
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 5: right now have anywhere between a twenty and twenty five
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 5: percent chance of making the playoffs, right, and if they
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 5: slide even just a little bit over the next two weeks,
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 5: that twenty five percent is going to become twelve and
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 5: you need you need to hang it up if you're
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 5: a twelve percent chance to make the playoffs in August.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: And the other thing too is those teams are gonna
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: play each other, right, so they're gonna kind of knock
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: each other out a little bit over these next few weeks.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: That's another thing here too, is that, boy, the Seattle
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: Mariners schedule coming up is a gauntlet. Like you know,
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: they play probably the most dysfunctional team in baseball right now,
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: in the San Francisco Giants, So you know, you feel
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: good about that. After that, things get really tough here.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: And my personal thought is, yeah, I'd be nice to
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: kind of wait this out, but I want to have
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: my best roster possible for these games coming up, too,
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: Like I want to make sure that I have that
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: right handed reinforcement and especially another bullpen arm because to me,
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: that's the one that's the most And you know, they
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: mentioned it that, like, hey, we are definitely going to
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: look to acquire a piece to this bullpen. There's no
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: excuse to have Michael Rucker and Nick de Villa and
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: these guys pitching in these games right now. There's just
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: not Tomer and you don't like.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: I like that reference. Let me just read through the
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: Mariner's schedule coming out of the buck three against the Giants, Reds,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: but then Texas Dodgers, Twins, Tigers, So a little bit
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: of soft spot there, Rays, Yankees, Astros, Brewers, Cubs, Phillies,
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: Blue Jays.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: It's tough.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 5: Well, how many those teams are actually more talented than Seattle, Dodgers,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 5: Yankees all start there, Brewers debatable, but yeah, but on
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 5: but for the most part, you name like ten teams
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 5: like the Mariners are probably third on that list in talent.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: So we should be able to.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 6: Win those games. All we got to do is not
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 6: play like the slubs we've been playing like for the
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 6: last three months.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: Is that Dan Wilson's fault.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 5: I think it's largely Dan Wilson's fault. I got to
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 5: put a lot of the onus on the players, but sure,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 5: the sense of urgency for me goes across the board.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 5: It's players, it's manager, it's across the board. And when
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 5: we're seeing guys walk after balls down the left field
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  Speaker 5: line and we're seeing Josh Naylor do whatever Josh Naylor's
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  Speaker 5: doing at first base, whether it's whether it's fielding a ball,
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  Speaker 5: whether it's trying to throw to second base from first,
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  Speaker 5: whether it's trying to pitch the ball to a pitcher
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  Speaker 5: covering first and.
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  Speaker 6: It goes like bounces twice or goes over the pitcher's head.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, I don't even we didn't see any of
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  Speaker 5: that last year, in the last two months of the
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  Speaker 5: season when he was here.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the thing I keep bringing up on Molly
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  Speaker 1: Watt Monday, is they don't look like they're having fun.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're not looking like you're having fun, at
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  Speaker 1: least I would like to see like, you know, you're
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  Speaker 1: super intense and you're focused, and you guys just make
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  Speaker 1: all these plays. They're one of the least focused teams
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  Speaker 1: I've ever seen, So he's not making a better in
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  Speaker 1: that regard either. So it's gonna be an interesting few weeks.
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  Speaker 1: I bet it's gonna be an interesting few hours here
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  Speaker 1: for you what you gain.
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  Speaker 6: It's gonna be fun.
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  Speaker 2: We will.
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  Speaker 6: So Jackson Bevis is going to join us. Nice his
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  Speaker 6: his bi yearly appearance.
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  Speaker 5: Usually I usually have him on once in February during
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 5: the MLB, S or NBA season. I got one on
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  Speaker 5: in July, so we got a lot to get to talking. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: you know, Sonics expansion, talking Seahawks. Of course, Jackson is
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 5: dialed in as anybody on the on the Seahawks. We'll
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 5: talk about the Mariners and the trade deadline. Brett Boone's
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  Speaker 5: gonna join us at four o'clock today, Jerry Brewer at
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 5: five o'clock.
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  Speaker 6: And Flage Johnson. We mentioned you were gonna get her
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  Speaker 6: card ass.
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  Speaker 1: Out right, you better believe I'm gonna be loading up
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  Speaker 1: on flag for sure.
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  Speaker 6: Who has the I would?
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  Speaker 5: I believe she's got the most Instagram followers of any
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  Speaker 5: athlete in Seattle.
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  Speaker 6: That's great, one point five million.
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  Speaker 1: Good for her. Yeah, I love watching her play. Hope
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  Speaker 1: they get some more wins down the stretch here.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, but you know, if they don't, there's really
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 6: good draft ju Ju Watkins.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah right, I'll be back tomorrow. Thanks again, Guy, Sports
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  Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three kJ
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  Speaker 5: Erathon for the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness, this
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  Speaker 5: is paddle Day, saying so long everyone,