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107: Sister Wives One-On-One Part One (S18E15) · Reality TV Cringe

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Welcome to reality TV Cringe. I am one of your hosts, Delia here
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with my real tight homegirl and my daughter in law Beutres. Everybody do it
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today, Beatrice, I'm good. I feel like I just saw you because
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I was at your house all weekend, every single day. I am one
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hundred percent rallying. My god, I ate so much food. I'm a
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broken person. I mean you were drinking, broken and reckfast. I was
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drinking, but I was working all weekend. Yeah. From the time I
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got up, which admittedly was eleven, Yeah, I went to sleep.
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I was just serving and cooking and cleaning. It was just like, oh
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my god. And the reason I was waking up at eleven was because I
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couldn't sleep because you were drinking, probably disrupting my sleep. But it was
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just like, oh my god. I'm glad that it's over, I know,
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so I can decompress. Yeah, and lose a little weight to be
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doublet. We hope you all had a wonderful holiday for those who celebrate.
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And then of course after everybody left, we got to sit down and watch
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Sister Wives Bitches. We did good Tale. All this tell nothing. We
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knew it was gonna be shitty. Yep, But you know it's I just
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go into it every episode thinking like, oh, hopefully it'll be better.
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And I mean, there was some things said. There are some things said
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that were kind of interesting. Seek seemed like she was kind of trying.
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But the flashbacks, why do we have to see the same shit that we've
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already seen in this season? The entire the entire scene of like Salsa Brava
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and the Christmas fight from start to finish with everybody watching, and we're looking
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at their expressions. I mean, like, is this necessary? We've already
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we've already seen this a million times this season. But it's exactly what we
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talked about last week, yep, that they were gonna do, yes,
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and it's what they did. It's of course it's what they did because they
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don't give a shit about us. They don't give a shit about all the
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hard work we do, know, all the forensic raccoons she had got to
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do. No, they don't care. They know we're gonna watch anyway.
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So let's talk about how they looked. And when I say they, I
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mean Cody because the way his like bang curls are so carefully placed and gelled
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right at the top of his head. We're just the bald spot, yes,
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and then the very intricate Shirley Temple esque curls. And also his face
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looked a lot rounder to me, fuller, almost like he's got fillers.
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I know, I think I was looking at his lips. I'm like,
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they're kind of plump. Is he the kind of guy that would get some
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cosmetic augmentations, yes, totally vain because he thinks he's a physical specimen.
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He thinks he's so hot. He's got to maintain the look for his hot
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wife. Robin, who, by the way, looks terrible. Do you
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think so? Her eyebrows are better, They're better. We have to give
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it to her. She just looks so like sunken in in herself, like
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just terrible, so sad, more smiling. I'm just like God, a
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human violin. That's what you get for being married to I mean, seriously,
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life is beautiful. Go outside, touch grass, Robber. I thought
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Christine looked beautiful. Yeah, I mean I know she was annoying you.
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She was annoying me. You're getting more and more annoyed with her as the
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weeks go on. It's just so performative and She's like, I don't care
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about your fucking divorce. Like I care about your divorce, but I don't
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care about you being like I'm so like happy, and I'm with my love
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of my life that I've only met for or known for a year. It's
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just like right at the time I've been taping, it was seven months.
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Yes, like calm down, please take it down a notch. So we
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had you now, and she seemed great. She seemed very solid, very
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earthy, because she's our Torian mother, she's a queen, and she's ready
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to show up and have some laughs and have a good time. And then
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we have Mary, who I just have to say is a beautiful woman.
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But she desperately needs a stylist. Yeah, she desperately needs a makeup artist.
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Yep, she desperately needs help. Yes, her hair, I can't
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take it. Every time I see her. I thought maybe she'd show up
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and she'd be a little frante. Do their all their own makeup and hair.
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I don't think they have people that do it for them. Why,
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I don't know. This has to be a show that's making TLC a lot
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of money. Yeah, and you can't afford to have makeup artists and hair
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stylists and a clothing stylist. Maybe it comes out of their budget and they're
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like, no, we need the money, Like especially Cody and Robine.
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They're so matronly, the women, especially Robin. She's the youngest, she
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dresses the oldest. It's really bad. Cringe. But we'll go more into
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these folks and everything they talked about in just a bit. First, I
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wanted to read an article to you that I thought was kind of interesting,
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because you know, I get those Sister Wives Google alerts. Yeah, along
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with Welcome to Platville, which, by the way, is an eminently better
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show. I don't know if you guys are watching or following along, but
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like, so much better, so much better, so much more fun,
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so many That's okay, we're stuck in this Sister Wives, dunte and hell
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together, so we might as well make the most of it. So I
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read this article, the title of which is Sister Wives. Three wild and
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bold predictions about the Brown family moving forward, fake psychic partitions, well,
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none of which are bold, all of which I think we have already,
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but I wanted to talk about it, and I also wanted to run it
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by y'all if you are watching or if you are listening, we didn't do
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our disclaimer. Oh before I do that, let me give you the disclaimer.
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We are a politically incorrect podcast. We're also very tired. I'm kind
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of grouchy, and so if yeah, today is not the data in the
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is magic. Yeah, and we appreciate it. Thanky. Back to this
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article, the first bold prediction, Mary Brown will pen a tell all book,
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which we had said, I don't know a year ago. Yeah,
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I was feeling that in the field quite some time ago. And then she
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sat herself down with Sue Kanya. I've been calling her Sukiana this wee soue
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Kanya and she is directly implying, isn't she yeah, that she's going my
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voice write a book will be heard. I will no longer be silenced.
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Bitch. You better mean that this time. Then you better actually spill some
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real tea and that book of yours if you want to sell anything, because
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people are gonna buy it regardless. There's gonna be sister wives fans that are
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just gonna buy it, like me of course, that are just gonna want
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to read it. But if it's bullshit, if it's just the same Instagram
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cryptic non so motivation, hashtag work, oh like no, you could be
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so famous. You could have a whole tell all book. Everybody's gonna be
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lining up to pay you money for it, and you could be a multimillionaire
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and just to just to say suck you, suck it, Cody and yeah,
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Robin. But if you I swear to God, if it's just bullshit
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the whole entire time of her worthying up, I'm just gonna be so mad.
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Yeah. I really think the way to go with that is to spill
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the tea. Yeah, spill all the tea. You've got the kids out
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here on their patreons spilling tea. Why can't you spill the team? I
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present yourself and you know there's been some stuff that's been said about Mary in
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the last year that I really hope she addresses, I e. The abuse
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claims by Gwendolen Peyton and also Machelt, Like what do you have to say
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for yourself? We want to hear. So if she writes a tell all
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book, I will be buying that book. But make it worth the I
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don't know thirty dollars you're going to make me because you're a grifter? Yes,
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all right. Bold prediction number two Cody Brown and Robin Brown will move
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out of flag Staff. I think that's true. And we've talked about this
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too with their house, like how are they going to afford this McMansion with
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the heated driveway when they both don't work, Like we've heard some talk of,
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like Cody's still doing his gun business stuff, but we don't really know
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how much money that's actually bringing in. Robin's not doing shit. We know
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this for the last twelve years, she's just been living off of Janelle's money
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and Christine's money, right, and Mary's money. So I would love to
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see them move out and get a tiny little house somewhere because they can't afford
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anything else, a dormitory apartment perhaps, that would be amazing. Yeah,
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don't. I don't know. I think Robin is really incentive devised to stay
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put. I know she had said, like, this is the last move.
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I want to stay wherever we go, I just want to stay.
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And so I think she's gonna have to be really hard pressed to leave her
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McMansion and also to leave flag Staff. But if money gets tight, they're
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gonna have to do what they're gonna have to do. And again we're here
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for the bankruptcy era. Yes, bold, predictable. Well okay, well
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let me ask you this. If they leave flag Staff, where do you
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think they'll go? Do you think they'll go back to Utah? Oh my
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god, that would be crazy if they went back to Utah. But it
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would make sense because they have a lot of family up there, and truly's
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up there so Cody could see her more often. He didn't give a shit
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about Truly, No, he doesn't. But I mean, it's just incentive
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for him to look better. Right, if he's caring about his image and
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how he's being perceived, it would be smart in his favor to move back
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up where family is. But I don't know. Maybe Vegas, I was
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I was thinking Vegas. They might go back to Vegas. I could see
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them actually moving back to Vegas. Yes. And finally, bold prediction number
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three, Christina Jane Brown's friendship will fizzle after Sister wivesh And I kind of
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can sniff that too a little bit because Christine is exhausting, she's so annoying,
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and Janelle is so level headed. She uses an economy of words.
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She's not here to just talk your fucking ear off. She's the kind of
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person like me. When you're around big excited energy too long, you just
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short out, you get grouchy. Yeah. I can't see her putting up
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with Christine shit long term. Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
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Maybe they'll still be friends because of all their kids and everything, but they're
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also like at two different places in their life, Like Christine is married to
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another man now and living her monogamous life. Janelle's single, I guess,
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but then is still living in flag Staff, so it's kind of weird.
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She's like going back and forth like so, I don't know, maybe it
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will kind of fizzle out, but it'll still be there in some existence because
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I agree, it's I agree. I think that they'll remain cordial. Yeah,
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they will be friends, but I don't know that they're going to be
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going to Hawaii every year new or doing vacations all the time, because I
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think Christine is team too much. Yeah, and those are the bold predictions.
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And so if you are watching on YouTube, let us know what you
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think. Do you can think that those things are going to come to pass?
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Let us know. And before we get into this episode, I hear
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that Ethel, who you reference in almost every Sister Wives episode. She's my
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real tight homegirl. She has called in on the speak Pipe. And by
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the way, if you want to call in and talk to us and sound
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off about the shows that we're watching, all you have to do is go
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to speakpipe dot com slash reality TV Cringe. You have ninety seconds. It
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is free and easy, and we'd love to hear from you. Yeah,
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just like I'd love to hear from Ethel. Now, what does she have
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to say to the Raccoons? Well, she's got a hot take for us,
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and so I thought we could discuss it because she texted me this earlier
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today and I was like, bitch, what what? Okay? Now we
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got to talk about it all right? Hey, b and d Ex Mormon
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friend ethel here. I just wanted to send in a message because I wanted
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to see what you two thought about Robin in this tell all. So far,
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I find myself siding with her, or at least believing her account of
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things. Besides her real fake tears, I just found myself believing that she
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was being genuine about like what happened, Like when she said there's been a
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lot of rewriting of history lately. I felt like she kind of called Cody
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out in that moment that he's been changing the narrative of you know, the
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past thirty some odd years, and the fact that she disagreed with Cody's narrative
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of like, oh, Robin wouldn't be safe at with my family, blah
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blah blah. But when Robin's like if if they would have invited me,
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I would have felt safe. I would have brought my kids, I would
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have done whatever. So, while I do think Robin is the master manipulator,
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she wanted to be the queen of the all of them, not the
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only ones. So I think that she genuinely misses them. That is a
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hot take. Yeah, and I know that there are quite a few Robin
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apologists and not that she's being an apologist. I get what she's saying because
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Robin, I would say, in this till nothing seemed more human, yeah,
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and authentic than she normally does, because normally she's very performative and fake.
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But I am not personally buying it. When she said she would go
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to Janelle's if she had been invited, that's a noe from me, dog,
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Because when Mary said that she could have the entire family over to Mary's
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house for Christmas Eve, it was Robin who said she didn't feel safe,
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right, that that was scary. That's a scary idea, right, good
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point, right, But the whole Her comment about the rewriting of history,
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though, I thought was interesting because if you are trying to be on Cody's
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side or like trying to escape blame and everything, then why would she talk
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about that. Well, did she say it was Cody that was rewriting history
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or did she say text of Cody sort of? I don't know. I
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think that she's also running defense because it is so glaringly obvious that they are
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rewriting history, and she is like a big proponent of that. She's one
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of the ones, for sure who's rewriting history. So I think she's maybe
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running defense. I think she knows that everybody's saying that, and so maybe
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she's acknowledging that to some degree, But she did not attach that to Cody,
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So I'd like to hear her thoughts more about that. Yeah. We
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do see in the preview though, that she's saying that she's having a lot
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of fights with Cody, that he's picking fights, yeah, and that he's
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trying to like sabotage their relationship. I've seen previews for that too, so
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I think those things are true. It's like, well, we always say
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there's like nuggets of truth and everything that is going on here, But at
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the same time, like Robin has been the puppet master for all of this.
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So even if her plan was to be Queen Bee, which I do
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agree with ethlete do dad that she wanted to be the top bitch, not
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the only bitch left, she still did all of this though. She still
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manipulated the whole entire family and caused the breakups of a lot of these right
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marriages. So it's like, I see Robin's points, but at the same
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time, I'm like, fuck you, bitch, Yeah, and too little,
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a little too late, Yeah, if you ask me, but I'm
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very I'm actually interested to see what she continues to say through the tell alls
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because if she's throwing Cody under the bus, I am here for that every
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single time. Yes, well, I like the hot take. Thank you
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very much, Thanks Ethel And again, if you guys want to talk with
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us, leave us a message. Just go to speakpipe dot com slash reality
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TV Cringe and we would love to hear from you. Yeah, all right,
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let's get into season eighteen, episode fifteen one on one, part one.
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We open this episode with everybody getting ready without a glam squad or anybody
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cares, dylist or a hairst nobody has, nobody cares. Nobody cares at
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all, Like you're not ninety day fiance. This is not going onto the
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big set of TLC with everybody in their chairs, like nobody cares about you
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getting ready at all. I was interested, really, I'm like, yeah,
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because I want to know who's doing Is somebody actually professionally doing your makeup,
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Mary, because that person needs to be fired? And is somebody actually
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selecting from like a rack of clothes your wardrobe for day because that person needs
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to be fired? And so you see that a lot the getting ready like
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on Bravo with the Housewives, and so I thought it was interesting to see.
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And of course then they all get to the set and Cody calls it
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a variety show, and then they start talking about what their song would be
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if they sang it on a variety show. Yeah, And Christine says,
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what was it the I can see clearly now the rain is gone, right,
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and Cody says, losing my religion, which I thought was interesting.
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Yes, So we kind of get right into it, and just some of
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my main takeaways. I'm not going to go like item by item, sentence
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by sentence. Some of my main takeaways from this segment was that Cody is
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asserting at this time that his main issue, or the main thing he did
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wrong with his og marriages is he did not vet his wives. Yeah,
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meaning he was looking to build a family, but he was not necessarily focused
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on falling in love with these women. And so he's still trying to maintain
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that he never loved these women. And I don't understand why he feels the
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need to do this. He really fucking hurtful, Like and again, like
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I can understand the perspective of him being a young twenty something year old kid
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who had just converted to bolygamy because his dad converted to bolygamy and him just
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eagerly wanting to get into it. I mean, like Ethel talks about this
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a lot with the Mormon Church and LDS faith and everything, that a lot
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of Mormons get married really fucking quickly just because they're horny and just want to
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fuck because they can't fucking tell marriage, so they get into these marriages where
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they're stuck with people that they don't necessarily like or they're not compatible with,
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and blah blah blah blah. So I can understand that perspective, But Cody's
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only saying that because he doesn't want to take accountability for him being the failure
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in all of these marriages and for him not admitting to them sooner that he
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did fall in love with Robin. She was his soulmate and he didn't want
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to be with them anymore. Yeah, that's what's so fucked up about it.
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And he's doing it on purpose to hurt them, and doing it to
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hurt them and their children. I think he has to know that saying something
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like that about his children's mothers is going to hurt them right and make them
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upset. And why would you say that on national TV? If your children
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can hear that what child wants to hear from their dad, then I never
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loved their mother for thirty years of marriage. And it's untrue. Yeah,
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it's patently untrue. Yeah. I feel like he's trying to save face.
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I think it's an issue of pride. I think he feels like he's been
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humiliated on a national stage, and so these are the types of things that
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he feels the need to say to level the playing field. But it just
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makes you look so fucking toxic and awful. He does talk about the difference
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between his falling in love with the first three wives, although he says he
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doesn't but like their journey into marriage versus when he fell in love with Robin,
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because the way he says it, like he was crying for months after
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falling in love with Robin, like he had never been in love before,
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so he really didn't know what he was missing or that he maybe should have
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been looking for that in his first three marriages. Do we believe that or
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do you think that's purely sex based, like maybe they just had banging sex.
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The whole entire time, and he just didn't realize what he was missing
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because he was married to these three women for a really long time. They
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had a million kids, so their sex lives obviously changed, and maybe he
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was just infatuated with Robin and her breakdancing pussy. I don't know. I
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think by the time Robin comes into the picture, Cody has been trying to
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manage three fighting wives and three wives who have like different agendas and there's different
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power trips and pecking orders, and he's been trying to do it for all
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these years. And then Robin comes in, younger, fresher breakdancing, and
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it's like just a breath of fresh air. Yeah, and he decides that's
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something he wants to focus on. Like, I think he was like forty
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years old when he met Robin, right, yeah, something like that,
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something like that, So he's a bit older, he's been through I don't
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know how many years with these other women, and so it just dawns on
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him that hey, this is what loves about. This is actually what I
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want to pursue, I guess. And Suki also asked Janelle about their origin
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Storage and Cody, and she's like, no, we were in love.
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I mean, we grew into a deeper love. But like for him to
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try and say now that there was no love is absolutely untrue. And again,
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the way Cody talks about Janelle, especially in Vegas, they had a
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renaissance, a sexual renaissance. Honey, he was writing her poetry, he
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was over all the time. The implication to me, the energy behind that
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is very sexual. Yeah, And we also see that towards the end of
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the episode because it comes up because Suk's gonna ask do y'all have good sex?
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Yeah? And I think the answer is gonna be yes, Oh totally.
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Cody's gonna say no. Cody's probably gonna be like, well, I
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thought it was good until I met Robin, right or something like that.
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Right. But Janelle's gonna be like, well, yeah, we were physically
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compatible, is what she says in the preview. So they obviously had a
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good relationship, and Janelle says several times during this particular episode that they had
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all of the elements of a functional marriage and for a long time it was
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healthy between them, and for her it wasn't necessarily about sex or his pecks
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or his six pack, as it was about the emotional connection that they had,
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right, So there was love there, Cody. Maybe I don't know,
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maybe he's conflating love with lust or something or infatuation, because to me,
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he can't actually believe that he wasn't in love with all these wives.
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To me, he can't actually believe that Janelle considered him to be a physical
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specimen and was unable to see his humanity, Like all she regarded me as
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was a sex object and somebody who could provide her with resources slash finances,
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Like do you really actually believe that? And the shit you're saying about your
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pex in your body, Like have you not seen the own footage of you
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in your box or briefs or whatever in the pond? I mean, come
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on, this is not reality. You're not living in the same dimension as
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the rest of us. Do you really believe this? But I think narcs
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does actual diagnosable narcissists see themselves in these aggrandized ways that are not rooted in
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reality. Yep. And he's a straight up fucking This whole entire episode was
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so frustrating to watch because we watched it together and you're like, I have
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to just calm down because he just pisses me off so much. You're like,
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I can't just do this. I can't talk about him on the pod
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because I'm just gonna be spewing hatred about him because he's the worst. And
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the entire episode is just him blaming everybody else and skirting around his personal responsibility
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and accountability. It's like ridiculous. Was there one instance in this episode where
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he took personal responsibility for anything other than his Their trash talking me because I
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fail to love them. I'm guilty of not loving I'm guilty, So I'm
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guilty of not loving them. That's like when you go in for a job
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interview and they ask you, like, what's like your your problem area and
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you're like, oh, I'm too loyal, I'm too much of a hard
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worker, too much of a perfectionist. So they're trash talking me because I'm
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guilty of only loving the best and the brightest, break dancing pussy process.
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I'm just like, not once, is what I'm saying. Not once was
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there an instance where he took responsibility for the way he spoke? And he
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could have many times over for the things that he said for his relationship with
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his children, because Suki actually asked him, like, why didn't you ask
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Janelle during that fight that y'all had if you could come over and see your
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kids? And he starts the reply there with something like, well, you
24:22
know they're gonna blame Robin, yeah, and then turns it into this.
24:26
You could just see his defected thinking, like he's trying to say it's not
24:32
Robin, but then he makes it into something about Robin, like I'm not
24:34
gonna take Robin goes where I go, yeah, And I'm not gonna take
24:38
Robin into a situation that's not safe because they don't like her and she doesn't
24:41
feel welcome. And this is where we pan over to Robin and Robin's like,
24:45
yeah, I would go yeah, which is interesting. It is interesting.
24:49
I'm like, Okay, I don't know if I believe her with that,
24:52
because Cody's saying one thing and she's saying another. Now, when Suki
24:56
presses Robin about that, and she's like, well, this is what Cody's
24:59
saying. He's saying that you guys can't be separated, that he doesn't like
25:03
this conflict between the kids and you, and blah blah blah, and Robin's
25:06
like, well I expected him to work out the relationships with the boys.
25:10
Specifically, I never wanted an apology. I never asked for an apology,
25:15
and I don't know, maybe that's true. She never directly said, your
25:19
children need to apologize to me before I will be around them. What she
25:25
did was manipulate the situation. Exa really just feels unsafe. I've never welcome
25:30
Cody, they don't love my kids, and then activated him into a course
25:33
of actions. So she didn't say it out right, but she actually did
25:37
say it. I die yeah. So that's why it comes off like it's
25:40
genuine. When she says, oh, I didn't know or I didn't want
25:42
him to say those things, it's because she's inadvertently saying it or saying it
25:47
through her actions. So it's just so fucked up. But Cody, with
25:51
the whole you're not gonna separate me and Robin. Thing like that is so
25:55
fucking toxic. It is. It is so ridiculous to me that you will,
26:00
Like Mary says in this episode, you know, Mary and Cody and
26:03
Robin had a sole connection. They spoke of this often. But it sucks
26:07
that because they had this connection, the rest of the family just had to
26:11
be discarded. And that's what Cody's done, and he's not seeing that because
26:15
he only sees it through the lens of well, everybody hates Robin. I
26:19
have to be the loyal and protective husband because I love her so much and
26:22
I love that break dancing pussy, and I would do anything for it,
26:26
even sacrifice my whole entire family of eighteen thousand people, right, I mean,
26:32
And that's just like not how life works when we get divorced, or
26:36
it shouldn't be how life works when you get divorced, Like you don't bring
26:40
your new wife over to your ex wife's house to see your kids with that
26:45
ex wife, right the wife the new wife doesn't need to be involved in
26:48
absolutely everything. And if there's tension in the family or if things aren't resolved,
26:52
that doesn't mean you don't see your kids until everything is resolved to your
26:56
specifications, yes, which is what you wants. Yep. And this is
27:00
like what I've said a couple episodes ago that this is kind of a typical
27:04
like divorce to dad Mo, because it even happened with your daughter and her
27:08
dad. He said to her, well, they're my package deal, and
27:12
that was kind of messed up. It happened with my dad and are my
27:17
parents' divorce and everything. I mean, they essentially told us if we don't
27:19
accept our stepmom, we can't have a relationship with our dad, And it's
27:23
like, okay, the two can be mutually exclusive. And you're never going
27:29
to solve relationships or disagreements with your kids in a divorce setting. If you
27:33
have that kind of mentality, of course, the kids are going to be
27:36
like, well, then fuck you, dad, I don't need to be
27:38
around. If you're really gonna make me choose between this witch of a person
27:42
and you, then I'm just gonna bounce because I'm not doing this right.
27:48
And that just reminds me when my ex husband said that to my daughter when
27:55
they were having a conversation and my daughter was just wanting to have some specialized
28:00
time with her father, who she rarely saw because he moved away. He
28:03
said, well, my new wife and her kids are my package deal.
28:07
And my daughter said, well, why aren't I your package deal? Yeah?
28:11
And I was like, oh god, why, And Cody, your
28:15
kids should be the package. Yes, your allegiance and alliance should be to
28:19
your children first. But he's such a bad father totally and he's a really
28:22
bad husband, and he's a really bad person quite frankly, Yeah, and
28:26
I can't stand I can't stand him either. So when we're talking about falling
28:30
in love with Robin and how different the experience was, and of course we
28:33
have Christine piping in she knew the moment that Cody had fallen in love.
28:37
This was like the real first heartbreak she experienced in the relationship. We then
28:44
have Janelle saying exactly, that's fine, like, I'm glad you found this
28:48
connection, but that is then when you're supposed to make those extra efforts to
28:53
take care of the rest of your family. You can have all the feelings
28:56
you want to have, but you signed up for polygamy. You signed up
29:00
for this particular family, and so if you're feeling that, your spiritual work
29:03
around that would be to make sure everybody is taken care of regardless. Just
29:08
like I'm sacrificing as a woman in this relationship by allowing you to fuck all
29:14
of these other bitches. Yes, and that is something I have to put
29:15
on the altar every day. You have to sacrifice how much you want to
29:19
spend time with Robin and put that on the altar and still continue to be
29:25
a husband and father to the rest of the family. Yes, and it
29:27
sounds like he tried to do that for a little while, but at some
29:32
point it's just like, I don't want to do it anymore. This is
29:34
a farce. I really think if they were all able to make it work
29:37
in like one big house, like in Lehigh where they had the plaghouse and
29:41
the separate kitchens and everything, they probably could have made it work for a
29:45
lot longer than what they did. I think what really fucked them over was
29:48
moving to Vegas, having the separate homes and having the family be separated,
29:52
because then you have all of this shit, and of course Cody doesn't want
29:56
to be going back to every single house. How exhausting is that to have
29:59
to pay up your life every other day to go pack up all of your
30:03
shit and then go stay at another house and then go to another and then
30:06
bohmm. It would have been better if he could have just had like two
30:10
wives in the basement and then two upstairs, and then he could have just
30:12
balanced this time a little bit better. But he can't well. And I
30:15
also think Robin didn't want it. No, And again I say it's very
30:18
curious to me how each of these wives, including Robin, track almost exactly
30:25
the path of their mother, yes, and how the mother, her mother,
30:27
lives separately as well. And I don't, I honestly don't think she
30:33
wanted to share physical space with the other women. She always wanted to be
30:37
set apart in her own way, yep, and therefore special and therefore head
30:41
bitch in charge or queen Bee, as Ethel says, And that again,
30:45
that could have worked, and Christine talks about it in this episode, like,
30:48
you could have just said, this is my soulmate, right, and
30:52
so let's figure it out for everybody else and find out, you know,
30:55
how we are all supposed to be situated within that. But you never did
30:57
that. You just kept lying about it, yeah, and pretending you're not
31:00
spending more time over there with Robin, and pretending you don't favor her when
31:04
you obviously do. Now you're causing problems due to deception, right and unfairness.
31:10
Well, and it sounds like Christine told Cody that on like multiple times,
31:15
she told him this is your soulmate. You found her, Like,
31:18
why don't you just cut our losses and then we can try and figure something
31:21
out for everybody. That benefits everybody. I wonder why he didn't accept that
31:26
selfish, didn't want to manage it, didn't want to figure out how to
31:30
do it. Meanwhile, he's so invested in his fame and his persona and
31:38
making sure that everybody thinks this kind of a family can be successful and putting
31:44
on this fake front that but behind the scenes, he's a terrible father and
31:48
husband, awful, terrible person, neglectful very much. So after this we
31:53
get into the terrible argument that Janelle had with Cody. We have to sit
32:00
there with Suki and watch the whole thing over again and again. We've already
32:04
seen this a million times, and we watch everybody's expression and then we kind
32:07
of do the breakdown and download of what really happened there. So, what
32:12
are some of your thoughts about that? I just thought this was stupid.
32:15
Like the second they started playing this whole scene, I was like, really,
32:17
right, we have to watch this whole entire fucking thing going on,
32:21
as if there haven't been like a million clips of this scene going around the
32:24
entire season for months yep, on the internet. Like we all have this
32:29
scene basically memorized at this point, and we have to watch it again.
32:32
Okay, but I guess my takeaway with this was Cody and again his deflection,
32:38
like he's avoiding taking full ownership for his awful, abusive behavior during this
32:45
scene by saying, well, I just got triggered. Hm hmm. I
32:47
just got triggered because I saw the tree and because Janelle's taking sides with my
32:52
ex wife she should be loyal to me. It's like, oh my god,
32:55
dude, do you hear how you sound right now? And what you're
32:58
seeing is my content because I have been betrayed and Janelle has no empathy for
33:05
my situation, my situation with my children who are also betraying me. And
33:08
she has no empathy for the fact that I almost died from COVID. She
33:13
didn't come and deliver food to my door. Oh and she didn't seem to
33:16
care. She's not capable of empathy, which is insane, an incredible thing
33:22
to say about somebody that you were married to for almost thirty years. And
33:25
I mean, dare I say Janelle was like one of the ones that probably
33:29
knew him the best. I mean, she's been calling him out all season
33:32
about his inability to like actually practice his faithfully by getting rid of his ego,
33:39
superficial needs and stepping outside of himself to make sure that everybody has their
33:45
needs met. He couldn't fucking do that. She's calling him out all season,
33:49
and then for him to say that she lacks empathy, like complete empathy
33:52
for him and compassion, doesn't see his humanity, only cares about him as
33:57
a piece of meat, dick, I mean, and a dollar, get
34:00
a dollar. And then in the same breath he'll say, but I'm not
34:05
blaming anybody. I take accountability for how I behaved in this fight because I
34:10
got triggered and I escalated. But I just have so much contempt for her
34:15
right because she's such a terrible person, Like that's the implication. Unbelievable.
34:20
Yeah, And I don't know how you could watch yourself back in a fight
34:23
like that and not take some humble ownership of how you fucked that up.
34:30
I don't get it. He like stands ten toes down in his bullshit.
34:34
Yeah, he will not admit anything. And Janelleburn even says that when he
34:39
came into this argument, like she had talking points, she had things that
34:44
she wanted to say, like she it sounds like she had prepared to some
34:46
degree. Yeah, but he just steamrolled her. She wasn't even to get
34:50
she wasn't even able to get anything out, and all he did was fingerpoint.
34:54
And then she says, Cody never self reflects. Then we bop one
34:58
over to Mary, who says, yeah, yeah, he could stand a
35:00
little self introspection because all that we hear from him is a whole lot of
35:05
blame yes, time and time again, over and over again. And Janelle
35:08
even says, like, through the entirety of their relationship, that's how their
35:12
communication has always been. Cody just always blames other people for their bullshit.
35:17
He's never the one to say, yeah, you know what I messed up
35:21
here, Like I need to improve here, I need to be better for
35:22
you. He's never the one to say that. So I'm like, that's
35:25
pretty big to hear from Janelle, And that also speaks to your human side,
35:30
Cody, because she's calling you out right yet again. Yeah, she's
35:35
got your number. Then we get into the whole Cody is jealous thing,
35:40
where Cody actually admits that he feels a little jealous that Janelle selected Christine in
35:47
terms of who she wanted to hang out with and who she wanted to have
35:51
Christmas with as opposed to choosing him, and we see Christine saying, well,
35:55
yeah, how does it feel? Yeah, this is the shit I
35:58
had to deal with for all of these years, always watching you pick somebody
36:01
else, always watching you run to somebody else to have all of the deep
36:05
conversations while I'm an outsider. So now that it's happening to you, do
36:08
you get it? And he then it counters with him saying well, I
36:14
never said that polygamy was a fair lifestyle, Like it's objectively unfair for the
36:17
women involved, and I know that it's like, okay, just expand on
36:23
that a little bit further. But then he gets mad that Christine's you know,
36:28
flipping the tables around on him, because again, he can never be
36:30
at fault and he can never be responsible for anything. And then he also
36:36
says something about Janelle and Christine, saying, oh, that they are acting
36:40
the way they are now that they should have been acting the last twenty seven
36:45
years. Right, So that's why he's pissed off and jealous right of their
36:49
relationship because now they're great and their friends, but they could have been like
36:52
that the last thirty years. Well maybe they weren't because of you, or
36:55
maybe they were and you just didn't care to notice, Or maybe they were
36:59
just having an normal female relationship where there are ups and downs and things happen
37:02
in your sharing space and you have all these kids and that's just the normal
37:06
rhythm of life, right, Maybe you could have done something to foster more
37:09
of a relationship with all of these wives who now like are so split apart
37:13
from Mary isn't part of anybody's Joe. She's totally on the outskirts. What
37:16
could you have done to change that? No, But it's always the work
37:20
of the women, Yes, And it's always like, well, you invited
37:22
yourself into this family. You're the one who asked to be here. You're
37:25
the one who got to choose to choose your man. I'm like, well,
37:29
it's not like you were brain dead when that was happening. So you
37:31
weren't in a vegetative state when they said I select you. You were a
37:35
part of that process. You dated these people. Do you think we're stupid?
37:39
And he does, and that's because he's stupid and stupid people think that
37:44
they can get one over on other people. Yeah, he's acting like all
37:47
of this was against his will, like you didn't have any choice in all
37:51
of this, But it's like, no, you did, and you chose
37:53
to do this because of your faith. But you were too weak of a
37:57
man to handle this entire family and handle four wives and your business. I
38:01
mean sorry, but you made your bed, now lie in it. That's
38:05
just what it is. And it really is him being weak because he couldn't
38:10
step outside of himself, like Janelle always says, to meet everybody's knees.
38:15
He just got fucking selfish and he was in love with Robin. And that's
38:17
again, that's fine, but you could have saved so much fucking heartbreak.
38:22
Could you imagine if Christine got to leave him ten twelve years ago and where
38:27
she would be at now, Same thing with Janelle and Mary, Like they
38:30
all could have been way happier. Mary could have married her catfish, that's
38:34
right. Could she have? Maybe? But yeah, no, they gave
38:39
the best years of their life to Cody Brown, oh so unfortunate. Was
38:45
never deserving of it. Truly terrible. And we also get into the whole
38:51
COVID thing and how apparently Christine and Janelle were literally on vacation when Cody called
38:58
Janelle no knowing she was on vacation with Christine, and told her to come
39:02
home and to bring him some items, presumably food because he's trapped in his
39:07
house and he's dying from COVID because he's got a ninety nine point nine fucking
39:13
temperature. And it sounded like Janelle was actually considering to do it, but
39:17
then Christine's like, you are not going to do that. You're gonna drive
39:20
all the way back to flag and you're gonna go fucking shopping at the Croker.
39:23
You're gonna get him the shit that he wants. You're going to take
39:25
it to the McMansion and leave it outside the door. He's not going to
39:29
come out. He's not going to see you. He just wants you to
39:31
leave your vacation and your family time and prove your allegiance to him. And
39:36
then he's gonna shit on you for it. Yep, you are not doing
39:38
it. And I'm like, okay, Christine, based thank you. Yeah,
39:42
because Janelle's her own woman, woman, and you really can't tell her
39:45
what to do. No, But in that moment, I'm glad she said
39:47
something, and I'm glad Janelle didn't go back Oh so great, And it's
39:52
just a perfect example of Cody's hypocrisy, saying that Janelle only used him for
39:57
resources and shit, I'm like, you're literally asking for her to go or
40:00
she shopping. You could have just paid like an Uber Eats person or like
40:04
a grub hub person or whatever to pick up your groceries and drop it a
40:06
car. Yes, it's the thing. You were wanting Jenelle to do it
40:09
because you knew she probably would. He probably expected her to. But because
40:15
Christine was there and Christine was like, fuck, no, you ain't doing
40:17
that, she didn't love it. Love to see it, me too,
40:22
me too. I thought that was very interesting because that was some information we
40:25
didn't have. Yes. In the next segment, we do have Suki again
40:30
asking Cody, why couldn't you just ask to go to Christmas? And he
40:36
says he didn't really want to go without Robin. Robin doesn't feel welcome,
40:38
It isn't safe. We have Robin saying she would have gone, which I
40:42
think is a lie. Robin saying she never asked for an apology, which
40:45
she's pretty bummed out that her name gets put into that when it was never
40:50
the case. I don't believe her. Yeah, she said that a couple
40:54
times throughout this season where she's like, I'm tired of people talking about me
41:00
text and I'm like, well, I mean, this whole thing has always
41:02
been centered around you, Like the last twelve years have been centered around you
41:07
and your feelings and how you feel merging into this already established family. So
41:10
don't say you don't want your name being thrown in there if it's been in
41:15
there the whole entire day. Yeah, and you are in the center of
41:17
it. Hello. And this is where Janelle is talking about Cody, initially
41:23
wanting an apology from Gabe and Garrison and then saying, Okay, okay,
41:29
maybe not an apology per se, because Robin got in his ass, but
41:32
we need to have a conversation. We need to make peace. They need
41:36
to come over to my house because I have a house, yeah, where
41:37
I live with my family. They need to come over to my house and
41:42
smooth things over, which is just another Janelle says. The mechanics are the
41:45
very same. It's just another way of saying, you've got to come over
41:49
kiss the ring of both myself and my wife in order to make things right,
41:52
and then we can see if we have a relationship. So it's the
41:55
same thing, it's just different words. Yes, Janelle ain't stupid, us
42:00
are stupid. After this, we have Cody saying that both he and Janelle
42:05
didn't see the value in their relationship. Such bullshit, Yeah, such bullshit,
42:09
when earlier in this episode he was saying that he's at a place right
42:14
now where he wants fromantic love with Janelle again. So don't say that you
42:17
both don't see the value and the relationship. And Janelle's never said that she
42:22
doesn't see the value in it. She just doesn't see the point in putting
42:25
any more effort because of the way that you treated her and the way everything
42:30
has gone the last couple of years. So yeah, after that fight when
42:32
she said fuck you and she felt that sigh, the breath of fresh air
42:37
and the relief wash over her, she's like, Yeah, why do I
42:39
even bother anymore? I'm cool without you. And maybe at that point she
42:45
didn't see the value of continuing the relationship. But it's not like she never
42:49
saw the value in the relationship. Of course she did. She stayed married
42:52
to you for twenty seven or thirty years or however long, and she stayed
42:55
in this with you. But It's just it's almost like when somebody dumps their
43:00
partner before their partner dumps them because they're insecure. It's like, because Janelle
43:04
is taking a stand and because Janelle won't put up with his bullshit, he
43:07
says, well, I don't see the value in their relationship. I mean
43:10
I tried to love her, I made a choice to love her, or
43:14
I made a choice to love Mary because of the things Janelle is now saying.
43:17
But if Janelle was saying I would love to reconcile with him, I
43:21
love Cody Brown, I want my family back together, I one hundred percent
43:24
believe that Cody would be saying the same thing. Oh totally yeah. But
43:28
he's also been saying that to the last couple episodes. He's wanting to reconcile
43:31
with Janelle, but it's Janelle who's refusing all of his attempts. Oh my
43:36
god, which is ridiculous because then we hear again in this episode after their
43:42
big old fight, they didn't talk, see or communicate with each other for
43:45
two months after that, before the whole Salsa Brava meet up. Right,
43:49
So don't act like you want reconciliation or you want romantic love with Janelle,
43:52
you've been downe with But with Janelle, you just want her money and you
43:57
want her loyalty because you know that if it's un weavering, then you can
44:00
get whatever you want from her. But now that she's like hanging out with
44:04
Christine all the time and she sees what real life is like, she's like,
44:08
fuck you dude. Do you think he also wants to stay with Janelle
44:13
because she has been a so called secret keeper, Like she's seen the books,
44:16
she's seen the money, she's seen how everything's been dispersed, she has
44:21
the information, she knows where the bodies are buried, in effect, and
44:24
so keeping her close is safer for him than having her go wander off and
44:28
ultimately write a tale all book like Mary Ooh. Maybe maybe out of everybody,
44:34
Janelle's the one that could hurt him the most. Oh my god,
44:36
but she wouldn't though. I feel like, really I really need her to
44:38
get I really need her to get litigious and get an attorney. She really
44:43
does need to. All three of them do. And in the final segment,
44:46
we have that full Salsa Brava flashback in and we talk about the difference
44:52
between Cody's breakup with Christine and Cody's separation or continued separation with Janelle. Of
45:00
course, with Janelle it was a lot calmer, but that's because Janelle is
45:02
more calm, and she was just not brooking any bullshit from Cody. She
45:08
gray rocked him. She's just like, yeah, I'm not feeling that,
45:12
or yeah this or that. And to your point, like, if he
45:15
really wanted that relationship and that romantic connection with Janelle even after Salsa Brava,
45:19
he would have been calling therapists, he would have been reading books, he
45:22
would have been self reflecting, which he has a critical inability to do.
45:25
But he did none of that, further demonstrating to Janelle that he's full of
45:30
shit. Yes, he's comfortable with his life with Robin and their McMansion and
45:36
all their paintings and their Dickensian villages, Like he's totally fine with it.
45:39
So as long as nothing rocks that boat, he doesn't give a shit.
45:43
He just expects other people to give a shit, so that way it makes
45:45
him feel better. Right, And then we have the part where he's talking
45:50
about being a physical specimen. Suki brings up the pecks to Janelle. You
45:55
know she has aw does it feel like, because we know that you have
46:00
such a love of his pecks in his body, and she just cracks the
46:04
fuck up, like that is the most ridiculous, ludicrous thing I have ever
46:08
heard. I want an emotional connection, like most women do. We want
46:13
an emotional communication, a deeper love. I don't really care that much about
46:17
your pecks, which, by the way, you don't have. I know
46:21
you don't have when you stood up at Salsa brav but we saw your beer
46:22
gut or whatever kind of gut that is. You don't have pecks, What
46:25
are you talking about? And Janelle even says she's like, he hasn't had
46:29
those his whole entire life, Like he just recently got them, really because
46:34
he started working out with his testostrol. Yes, yes, And so she
46:38
even says that he loves those pecks like more than everybody else does, and
46:43
so that also turned her off from it a bit. She was just like,
46:46
it's a little much, Yeah, your love of yourself is a little
46:50
much, just a bit. And then he tells Suki that Janelle treated him
46:53
like a piece of meat. That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard
46:58
in my life, which I I think is him speaking to the connection sexually
47:05
that he had with Janelle, and he's going to try and frame it going
47:08
forward that like, yeah, you know, I had to please her because
47:10
that's all she wanted out of me, was sex sex, because I'm such
47:14
a sex god, I felt like a piece of meat versus just saying yeah,
47:17
Janelle and I had a legitimate connection. It was physical, sexual,
47:22
intimate, emotional. He won't be able to say that because that gives her
47:25
credit in the relationship. Instead, he's going to say, like, yeah,
47:28
I had to fuck her though, because if I didn't fuck her,
47:30
it would be hell to pay. That's all she wanted from me. I
47:32
wonder if they'll bring up like physical attractiveness in terms of because remember like when
47:37
we were doing our rewinds and we got to the gym episodes and Robin was
47:42
talking about all their stretch marks, yes, their curveness, yes, which
47:46
is obesity. Okay, loves curvy girls, beast girls, Okay. Like
47:53
I wonder if he'll bring that stuff up, like if he'll go that low
47:58
because he's already said about Christine right about how he was repulsed by her,
48:02
not sexually attracted to her at all, So like if he goes to that
48:07
level with Janelle and Mary. Oh. I can't imagine a world where a
48:15
man would do that, especially a man who shares children with that woman.
48:20
Yeah, but we are talking about Cody Brown. Yeah, and I think
48:23
that maybe he deployed Robin last season in the tel all for her to say
48:28
something about the stretch marks. I feel like they talked. They prepared a
48:30
lot in advance, for example, telling Mary that he was considering reconciliation and
48:36
Christine is the one who ruined it, Like they planned that ahead of time.
48:39
Yeah. I think they also planned the stretch marks, So I wouldn't
48:43
be surprised if that's something that they might be planning. But I would be
48:47
so thoroughly disgusted, Oh me too if he did that, Oh me too.
48:52
It would be really, really terrible. But if he does say some
48:55
shit like that, I hope that Sukiana brings that up to Christine, Janelle
49:00
and Mary and calls it out for what it is, because we also saw
49:05
the sexual chemistry between Mary and Codys and season and money, and I mean
49:09
he was into her. He was into all of the wives, really,
49:13
I mean he was genuinely trying. I think in the beginning seasons before it
49:16
just kind of got to be too much and he just got lazy and tired.
49:22
I don't know, it'll be interesting to see what else he says,
49:23
all the horseshit that he tries to bring up right or if he doesn't want
49:28
to answer certain questions. We'll see if that happens again this and of course
49:30
he'll see is just going to let him do that. I do want to
49:34
say that in the comments of our videos on YouTube, which by the way,
49:37
is a treasure trove of information that like personally, I don't have,
49:40
and I just want to reiterate for those who don't know, like I've come
49:43
to Sister Wives in the last maybe five years or so. Yeah, if
49:47
I have not been following since twenty twelve, so I don't know all the
49:51
lore. I don't have all of the information same. But we did have
49:54
somebody in the comments who said that in an interview Christina and Janelle we're doing
50:00
for I Guess Entertainment tonight, that they said that they're the ones who will
50:07
not sit down in the same room with Cody to have a group tell all,
50:10
Oh, they said that they will not do it because you and I
50:15
are constantly like gashing on about why the fuck can't Cody and Robin sit in
50:20
a room with these other people and have to defend their statements. But maybe
50:25
it's Christine and Janelle. Well obviously, if they're saying it is, then
50:29
maybe it's because of Christine and Janelle. Huh. I mean, I guess
50:32
that would make sense, right. You don't really want to be around a
50:35
narcissistic does it matter? It doesn't really change for me, Like, tell
50:38
those women you better get your happy assets in this seat in a group setting.
50:45
And if you don't, you are not going to be able to get
50:47
paid for the full season, or you won't be getting paid for the reunion,
50:51
or you won't be getting paid at all. And so if you want
50:52
to continue to be famous, and if you want to continue to get this
50:55
pay check, baby, put your ass in the seat wit for the audience.
51:00
Yeah, if the housewives can touch it, if ninety dight fiance fuckers
51:04
can do it, Yes, if every other reality show can do it,
51:07
Why can't, sister, Why can't? Why do they have so much power
51:12
to control the format and the setting. It's really annoying because all of the
51:16
comments online are people bitching to TLC and to Suki and being like, why
51:22
why can't we just have you guys all in the same room defending what has
51:27
been what is being said because Cody and Robin are blatantly lying. They're just
51:30
lying. It's just ridiculous, and Suki's believing it and then telling it to
51:35
the it's just tod Yeah, that's the other thing with this fucking tell all.
51:38
We were talking about it when we were watching it, like, can
51:40
Suki just act like she's seen the show or get somebody who's as interested as
51:45
the audience writing the show and who's been watching the show and knows the dynamics
51:50
of the family, who can sit down and call the shit out when it's
51:52
being said. Yeah, Like I don't understand. So, I mean,
51:55
she seems like a perfectly delightful person. Yeah, she seems like she has
51:59
a kind spirit. But she is the wrong interviewer for this show, way
52:04
too fucking soft. Because Cody is a decepticon. He is a narcissist.
52:08
I think he's an abuser in my opinion, He's definitely an emotionally and verbal
52:14
abuser. And this whole family is falling apart, Like you need to have
52:17
somebody, maybe even clinically skilled in there to sit at some dumb journalists who
52:22
doesn't ever watch the show and he's only going to softball the entire time.
52:27
Get a clinician in there, like Yama Van Sant who can hold them their
52:30
feet to the fire, put them all in the room and work a process.
52:34
That's the shit we want to see. That would be riveting television.
52:37
And let me ask you this meal drill so in terms of ratings, because
52:42
I have no idea, I don't follow any of that, but like,
52:45
how much, like is ninety Day Fiance way more popular in terms of ratings
52:51
than TLC? I mean not TLC, but Sister Wives or his Sister Wives
52:54
on par with ninety Day Fiance? I don't know, Like, I don't
52:57
know in terms of the numbers. I mean, it seems Sister Wives has
53:00
had a lot of people watching, Like there's people that I know that I
53:05
follow, like on Instagram that are watching Sister Wives for this season because they're
53:08
watching it all fall apart, but they haven't watched all the seasons, right,
53:13
So it's like one of those weird things, like ninety Day Fiance has
53:15
more of a solid fan base in terms of people who've seen every fucking season.
53:20
We know all of the characters, we've been around for a long time,
53:22
But Sister Wives kind of has people that kind of come and go as
53:27
the popularity waxes and wings. But I don't know, It's just it seems
53:30
like TLC. If you know how bad the Tellaws were last year, everybody
53:35
was talking about it, like you could not lead everybody. It's on your
53:37
Instagram, it was everywhere. It's all over Suki's Instagram, it's all over
53:42
Twitter, Like, why we've changed likes it? Why wouldn't you have at
53:45
the very least, we could have had codyum Robin in the same room together,
53:50
and then the three Og wives in the same room together. If the
53:52
three Ogs wanted to be separated from Cody and Robin, I can understand that.
53:55
But why couldn't we have had just two groups of people all in one
53:59
room, like we didn't have to have five fucking one on one. No,
54:04
And it must be like such a nightmare headache to try and organize what
54:07
this person just said. So now I'm going to go back to Cody Brown
54:10
so he can answer what this person just said and then edit that all together.
54:14
Whereas if you just had them all in the same room having an organic
54:16
conversation, you wouldn't have to fuck around with that. Yes, I've just
54:21
I'm incensed. Oh yeah, because even watching it is hard. Yeah,
54:23
like you're going back and forth between all of these different perspectives. And like,
54:28
I'll give Suki some credit here because having to interview all of these people
54:31
people for six hours, to have to cobble all of this shit together and
54:36
then remember what everybody has said to also provide follow up questions like that would
54:40
be so frustrating. So I'll give her props to that. I don't think
54:45
it's necessarily her fault in terms of the interview process, because this is what
54:50
she's been given, right, but TLC, fuck you right. Well,
54:53
but she's not like creating. She's not coming up with the questions herself.
54:57
She's being given the questions and the prompts and they're organizing it behind the scenes,
55:00
giving her her cue cards, and she's asking the questions on the cards.
55:04
Yeah, so it's not like she's finessing it like expertly in order to
55:08
get the answers. This is what I think where I can give Suki some
55:14
props is that you have got to massage a narcissist, right, You have
55:20
got to be able to appeal, like, let them think that they're the
55:24
ones that're controlling the situation, controlling the conversation. When you challenge them,
55:30
you have to do it in a really careful way. And she is trying
55:32
to. Yeah, I can see that she's trying to, and so I
55:36
imagine that that takes a lot of That takes a lot of skill to be
55:39
able to do that. Yeah, totally. But to what end? All
55:43
Right, just here to massage Cody Brown's eco and let him feel all puffed
55:47
up again like he's had his say and he's been able to abuse his wives
55:51
and his kids one more time. Is that what we're platforming and facilitating?
55:54
TLC. Yeah, he's a weak and inefficient man. Oh, he doesn't
55:59
get done and who can't keep his family together. Put him in the middle
56:02
of his family. Let's bring in Gabe and Garrison, my guy Gary,
56:07
and bring in the other kids. Let's get some Maddie in there, Let's
56:09
get some Leon, and let's have him talk to his children. That would
56:13
be so fucking choice, can you imagine? Oh? I would love to
56:16
see one on one with the kids, Like, if we're going to bring
56:19
on David Woolley in later episodes of this, why couldn't we have brought on
56:22
Gabe and Garrison and hear how they feel, yeah about all of this shit
56:25
and hearing their dad say, well, they have to choose between Robin and
56:29
I. Well, mayn't say real because there were some pivotal moments this season
56:34
with the you know, with Garrison saying Robin can have him, yeah,
56:38
things of that nature. So maybe we'll see some of the kids, but
56:40
like it could just be done in such a better way that honors the audience
56:45
members that have stuck with you all of these seasons. It's like you're giving
56:50
them the fucking two middle fingers straight up into the air, like you don't
56:52
give a shit. Oh yeah, and that's what makes me mad. Like
56:55
I sit down and I watch this, and obviously we have some fun.
57:00
We have more fun on other shows because this is really very dark. Yeah,
57:02
but it is hard for me to then kind of get on a pod
57:06
and try to be level headed and not turbocynical, yeah, and just negative
57:12
the whole time, which is not fun for me or for you. Like
57:15
I'm trying to find some of the levity in it, but it is really
57:17
hard and it's heavy. A lot of this is because of the way production
57:21
is handling it and the power production is giving to these people. Oh yeah,
57:25
for sure. And it started to the beginning of this season when they
57:30
didn't allow the episodes to be aired on Discovery Plus like at an early time
57:35
because they were last year. It's like the whole network is just doing this
57:37
and milking the cash cow, giving us fucking bullshit footage from season seventeen for
57:44
season eighteen rather than give us new content to actually talk about and everything.
57:50
It's like just over and over and over again, Like, what's season nineteen
57:52
going to be the same fucking footage from twenty twenty two? Yes, are
57:57
we gonna see shit from two years ago, because that's what we get.
58:00
I think we're going to see Christine's love journey with David Woolly, and we're
58:04
gonna see Cody flailing about and discontinued contempt for Janelle. And hopefully we get
58:08
some more information from Mary because if this episode of The tell All is any
58:14
indication like she's going to be contributing absolutely nothing. Yeah, she's contributing apps,
58:19
She's like had maybe two seconds, I know, two seconds of like
58:22
feedback and last year too, So come I would actually really like to hear
58:27
way more from Mary. Yes, I think she has a lot to say,
58:30
but maybe she's holding it close to her chest so she can monetize it,
58:31
write a book and then make a lot of money, which you know,
58:35
if I were her, that is exactly what I would do, honey,
58:37
for sure. But like, actually spill the tea in your book?
58:38
Right? Please? Yes? Well, is there anything else that we want
58:45
to say about this particular episode? I was disenchant disenchanted, I was disappointed.
58:52
Back to Ethel, I can see what she's talking about. I think
58:57
we have a softer, more maybe produced Robin Brown then previously. I think
59:04
she knows and she is now acting in accordance with how everybody sees her to
59:08
be. I also think she's probably smarter than Cody. I think she does
59:13
have the ability to see herself more accurately than Cody does, because he sees
59:16
himself as a physical specimen with PEX right, she sees that he's a tool.
59:21
Yeah, she can see that, and she can probably see how everybody's
59:22
seeing her, and so she's trying and it's a little softer, it's a
59:25
little better, but I still don't believe her. Yeah, I don't believe
59:29
her entirely. I do think Ethel's right though, like we said about how
59:34
she wanted to be the queen Bee, not the only one left. So
59:37
maybe there is some of that genuine emotion from like absolutely the crying on Coyote
59:40
Pass last episode. We talked about it last episode, like she probably does
59:45
feel sad that the family's broken up, but at the same time still not
59:49
taking the ownership for everything that she did to make that happen. But it's
59:54
interesting to kind of see her be a little bit more human and not as
1:00:00
puppet mastery. I was going to ask if you think that their marriage is
1:00:06
in trouble, because she's kind of said a couple things like in this season
1:00:12
where she's like, well, I don't know, like Cody and I have
1:00:14
had a hard time, or like he's always angry all the time and he
1:00:16
picks fights with me and tries to sabotage our relationship. And she made that
1:00:21
joke on Coyote Pass saying like, well, what if we don't end up
1:00:23
together? He did not laugh, He did not laugh at that. At
1:00:27
all. I was wondering whether she's made that joke before, or whether she's
1:00:30
made that statement before, which is why he took it so seriously, Because
1:00:34
if I said a joke like that abound my husband, he would think that
1:00:37
was a joke. Oh yeah, because it's not possible, right, But
1:00:39
Cody didn't react that way. I can see a world where their marriage doesn't
1:00:45
survive this. I especially think that's true. If the money goes away for
1:00:51
Robin, that would be so amazing. Yes, I mean, I don't
1:00:54
want to wish the downfall of anybody. We shouldn't karmically that's bad. Yeah,
1:00:59
it's not good. But you are going to reap, which is sew.
1:01:01
Yeah, and there's been a lot of a lot of sewing going on
1:01:06
with Robin and Cody. So I just want to be there for the reaping.
1:01:08
Is that too much to me? Yeah? You know, I just
1:01:09
want to see what happens. That's absolutely well. There are three more installments.
1:01:15
I can't even I can't even begin to guess. What the fuck we
1:01:20
have three more hours to discuss? What full scenes are they going to make
1:01:22
us rewatch in the next day, Watch them as they're watching it after they've
1:01:27
already watched it, just as we've watched it, Like I can't even begin
1:01:30
to imagine what it's going to be like, but we will be here to
1:01:31
cover it. You have every single one just for you. Sure, we
1:01:36
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