Latest / King Dems Podcast | Growth Mindset, Leadership, AI and Business Insights / Double Champ Growth Mindset That Builds Unstoppable Leaders ft. Lorenzo "The Juggernaut" Hunt
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- 0:19I pushed this bitch for a mile to the gas station.
- 0:22Now I'm stronger. I've worked on my cardio today.
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- 3:13And now this is the moment you all have been waiting for.
- 3:21Standing tall as one of the most feared finishes on the planet or
- 3:26two Division King, a record-breaking force of nature,
- 3:31the undisputed face of the Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship
- 3:35with a pro record of 12 wins and two losses.
- 3:39He is the destroyer, the showstopper, the pressure, the
- 3:44storm. Ladies and gentlemen, put your
- 3:48hands together for the raided, defended, unstoppable,
- 3:53undeniable. The one, the only, the man, the
- 3:58meat and the legend. Lorenzo the Juggernaut.
- 4:12I gotta give you an A+ plus for that introduction, man.
- 4:15You, you might be looking for another job, man.
- 4:18You trying to be the guy that do that?
- 4:19He's trying to be the announcer. Shit, that was Fireman.
- 4:24Wow. Thank you very much, brother.
- 4:26Thank you very much, brother. You know, we love to give people
- 4:30their flowers on this podcast. And of course, you know, I'm
- 4:33going to do the gentle one now, huh?
- 4:36We've done the Bruce warfare introduction.
- 4:38Let's do the corporate style introduction.
- 4:40So today we are joined by a man whose name sends shockwaves
- 4:45through the world of combat sports, a champion built through
- 4:49the willpower beat and a level of discipline that only the bold
- 4:53choose to embrace. Lorenzo the juggernaut hunt.
- 4:57He's not just a BKFCA light heavyweight champion who is a
- 5:00global lesson in Brazilians, the invention and the power of
- 5:04refusing to bow to any challenge.
- 5:07His latest victory was not just a knockout, it was a statement
- 5:11that echoed across the sport. His collar of platinum.
- 5:15Mike Perry has ignited conversation around what good
- 5:18will come the most anticipated BKFC showdown of all time
- 5:22Champions. Today's session is going to
- 5:25stretch your mindset, you hope your ambition and remind you how
- 5:29greatness is built. Let's step into the vena of
- 5:32discipline, identity, and the psychology behind becoming
- 5:36unstoppable. Your friends, all the Juggernaut
- 5:38funds, you all welcome once again to the Kingdom's partners.
- 5:45Thank you, brother. Thank you.
- 5:47Thank you very much. I appreciate that introduction.
- 5:50Funny story real quick, like I used to hear that in my head
- 5:56when I would sleep before I was fighting.
- 5:58I used to hear Lorenzo the Juggernaut, huh?
- 6:05It was like, oh, some weird, like premonition, like some
- 6:07weird. I wasn't a fighter.
- 6:10Yeah, I wasn't, I wasn't a boxer.
- 6:11I'd but I would, I would hear that sometimes in my sleep and
- 6:14I'm like, shit. And I just followed it out.
- 6:17You know, one day they asked me like, hey, what's your fight
- 6:19name? And I just like Juggernaut, you
- 6:23know, and I just rolled with it, you know, went through amateurs
- 6:26and then and nobody ever said it.
- 6:28Nobody ever said it right. Like I heard it in my dream.
- 6:32They always chopped it up. They always kind of made it, you
- 6:34know, in the amateurs. And then when I fought my first
- 6:37pro fight for bare knuckle for BKFC and the announcer guy, he,
- 6:44he, he did it just like I heard it before, years before.
- 6:50I knew I was in the right. I knew I was where I was
- 6:52supposed to be. That's amazing.
- 6:56I actually want to touch on that because what you're talking
- 7:00about right now is like in people spend 10s of thousands of
- 7:05dollars trying to figure this stuff out.
- 7:07Thank you so much for being on our podcast.
- 7:10By the way, this is my first time meeting you.
- 7:13We're going to talk about a subject that is amazing,
- 7:17obviously bare knuckle combat sports.
- 7:20A lot of people we know about UFC, a tonne of people might not
- 7:27know who you are, might not know the type of champion you are,
- 7:29might not even really understand how amazing or different bare
- 7:34knuckle fighting is. You know, if you grow up in the
- 7:38streets anywhere, you know what bare knuckle fighting is just
- 7:41from being in your household or knowing somebody or going to
- 7:44high school. We figure it out.
- 7:46A lot of times we don't know. This is actually an entire
- 7:49industry of professional fighting as well.
- 7:52So again, thank you so much for being here.
- 7:54I do want to touch on that really quick because what you're
- 7:57speaking about is not only visualisation, but I can touch
- 8:03on prophecy in a way. A lot of times what we're able
- 8:08to do when we are connecting with our sole purpose in our
- 8:12dream life is through imagination and visualisation.
- 8:16So for a lot of people watching, a lot of people we bring on this
- 8:20podcast, we talk about mindset, skill set, and just connecting
- 8:25with their business, their sole purpose in the way that they can
- 8:29live out their true desires. So the fact that the first thing
- 8:34you say is, hey, I actually used to hear that years before it
- 8:39came out, my imagination connected with my highest
- 8:42desire, came into connection with what I'm supposed to be,
- 8:46what I'm supposed to do. And you knew what your name was
- 8:50meaning like God or your spirit or your higher self or universe
- 8:53or whatever you want to call it, instructed that you told you
- 8:57what that was so that when it showed up in your reality, you
- 9:01knew. That's a massive sign.
- 9:04That's amazing. So I just want to touch on that.
- 9:06Cause a lot of people when we're trying to figure this thing
- 9:09called life out, when we're trying to figure out our
- 9:10business, trying to figure out our dreams.
- 9:13Obviously you becoming a world champion of bare knuckle boxing
- 9:18is you chasing a dream, chasing your highest purpose, chasing
- 9:23something other people didn't know that you were.
- 9:26You had to step into the ring, convince other people to know
- 9:29who you are. And it came in first through the
- 9:32spirit, came in first through a vision, came in first through
- 9:36something in your mindset that only you knew.
- 9:39That's amazing. I want to talk a little bit
- 9:46about your origins. I know you're from Cleveland.
- 9:49Yeah. Ohio from the Midwest.
- 9:53Yeah, in the United States. Yeah, we call it Oh hell.
- 9:56No, we call it oh hell. No, Oh hell no.
- 10:00Oh hell no. I mean, I've been to Cleveland
- 10:03for a minute. I think I went to a concert in
- 10:05Cleveland one time. But it's so funny, like Ohio in
- 10:09general, I feel like there's like a running joke, like in the
- 10:12United States is about Ohio. You know, even if you're in like
- 10:15a hub like Cleveland or whatever, it's like, OK, well,
- 10:18you're still in Ohio. It's like when you're so when
- 10:23you're growing up in Ohio in the Midwest and you're getting these
- 10:26visions or you're kind of saying, OK, I think I want to
- 10:30fight what other than was there anything else outside of that,
- 10:35like just us knowing or just these visions are having roaming
- 10:39up or you're like, OK, bare knuckle is bare knuckle is
- 10:43Elaine, I'm going. No, I would say no.
- 10:48Like I really didn't have a lot of clues into what the future
- 10:53will hold for me, other than the fact that I never really had any
- 10:58peace. And I had to learn how to fight
- 11:02and how to survive and how to be hyper attentive to my
- 11:05surroundings and how to, you know, navigate this world, this
- 11:08very violent world. The world was very violent
- 11:11towards me. I never really understood why,
- 11:14but my father, thank God, I had my father.
- 11:16My father's like a like a giant, you know, just a giant in this
- 11:20world. And he taught me discipline and
- 11:23he taught me how to he, he, he helped me understand that this
- 11:27is just the way it is. The world can be violent.
- 11:29The world can be nasty. The world is designed to try to
- 11:33hurt you, to try to stifle you, to try to force you to yield.
- 11:40And, and he instilled in me, we never yield.
- 11:43You never yield. That's the reason you hear you
- 11:46will never yield. And so my father just taught me
- 11:48that from a very, very young age.
- 11:50He was very militant. He never let me like celebrate
- 11:53my birthday. He never let me accept gifts
- 11:56from people. He used to make me, you know,
- 11:58stand up straight and stand tall and stand with your chest out
- 12:01and don't talk too much. And, you know, he would kind of
- 12:04control me with his, with his eyes or like, you know, with his
- 12:07emotions. And, and like we were, we became
- 12:10best friends because I became exactly what he envisioned, you
- 12:17know, he wanted me to be a strong, independent thinker, a
- 12:21solid man just like him. And he watched me.
- 12:25He watched me do it. And he was like, shit, you're
- 12:29amazing, dude. And I'm like, bro, it's you.
- 12:32You know, we go back and forth like it's you.
- 12:34No, it's you. It's you.
- 12:35No, it's you, bro, it's you. So, yeah, that's, that's what I
- 12:39got out of Cleveland. You know, other than that, you
- 12:42know, it was a wild ride. You know, I I grew up in down
- 12:45the way and like in, in the worst parts of Cleveland.
- 12:48I grew up like 71st between 71st and 79th.
- 12:53The Huff area. I don't know if you ever heard
- 12:55about it, but like Bone Thugs and Army, you know, E 99, like
- 13:00I, I grew up in I used to live in a garden Valley projects like
- 13:04they tore it down. There's nothing but a field
- 13:06there now. Like it, it was like the worst,
- 13:08like the worst possible place. And growing up, now that we know
- 13:13why those places were created, what they were designed to do,
- 13:17they did exactly what they were designed to do.
- 13:20And I was supposed to be just another victim of that madness,
- 13:26of that madness that was Cleveland, OH.
- 13:29Inner city gangs, drugs, needles, prostitution, just just
- 13:37yes, madness. It was complete madness.
- 13:41Pissy hallways, just nastiness. And.
- 13:44And I'm even making me think about it is like, yeah, yeah,
- 13:51it's it's a little unsettling. Yeah.
- 13:54Like third. World so no, it seriously third
- 14:00world it gives third world and like I say that like I'm from
- 14:05Flint MI. So with that being said, I
- 14:11deeply relate to what you're saying.
- 14:13You know, where those environments are created to
- 14:17serve a purpose and they are doing exactly what they're
- 14:21supposed to do, which is insane because and I want to touch on
- 14:28even you saying like in me being brought up in that to the world
- 14:35or to that environment, if I'm to serve that environment to
- 14:39serve that purpose, that means I become a victim and I become a
- 14:41statistic. And I relate to that very, very
- 14:44deeply. Just being from a very similar
- 14:47background and you know, crazy family, all this stuff, right?
- 14:50So it's like you mentioned how your father was kind of kind of
- 15:00a spine, kind of a spine for you, gave you a spine, said sit
- 15:05up, get up and stand up straight.
- 15:08And yeah, everything around you is going to try and is designed
- 15:14to break you down to that level. And your father served as a
- 15:17spine for people, for men in this country.
- 15:21I want you to speak to men right now because you know, men in
- 15:27general, obviously men of colour, black men in this
- 15:30country and men in general, maybe they're they turn to
- 15:39fighting for one reason or another.
- 15:42And I would say that your position in bare knuckle right
- 15:45now gives you a title of obviously a role model, being
- 15:52somebody who had a father who gave them a spine.
- 15:54Like what's something that you would want to instil for men who
- 16:03come from similar environments who maybe don't have that?
- 16:07Like, what do you think is like the number one?
- 16:10If you could say like one thing to those types of people, what
- 16:13would you say? I mean, I can put it really
- 16:17quite simply. First, let me retouch on.
- 16:20I saw my brother's face when I said Third World, you know,
- 16:24third world environment. That's not because I come from
- 16:29the third world. That's fire.
- 16:32No, no, no, no, that's that's not a shot.
- 16:35That's listen, listen to me. That's not a shot.
- 16:38Just joking. I'm just joking.
- 16:39That's not a shot. That's not taking a shot.
- 16:41That's not taking a shot at any other place.
- 16:44What you have to understand, what you have to understand
- 16:47though, is that everywhere that I've been in my life, all the
- 16:52other countries, everywhere that I've seen that they were told me
- 16:55were Third World, none was worse than where I was from.
- 17:01So you may have the label of Third world, but I lived in it
- 17:08and, and there's a, there's a difference, bro, there's a
- 17:11difference. We lived in food deserts, no
- 17:14fruit on the tree, no seeds, no flower, no grass.
- 17:19You understand? I, I grew up in a place with no
- 17:22grass, like, let alone an apple or a heart.
- 17:26So, so like, and, and with that being said, like I said, I, I
- 17:31literally hit the lottery when I got my mother and my father
- 17:35because they teamed up. They never split up and they
- 17:37just attacked the world back-to-back like, like freaking
- 17:41like a, like a lion couple and they just was like, they were
- 17:45inseparable. So what I would say to the men
- 17:49in the world, what I would say to the you guys are the role
- 17:55models, the architects, the the I'm looking up to you as a
- 18:00child, as these children. They're looking up to you
- 18:03whether you want them to or not. They're emulating you, they're
- 18:07copying you. They're learning what it means
- 18:09to be a man just from watching you.
- 18:12And it doesn't matter if it's your child, if it's your nephew,
- 18:15if it's the neighbour kid, it doesn't matter if it's the kids
- 18:18down the street. You're all of their fathers,
- 18:23you're all of their uncles, you're all of their.
- 18:25So if you get a chance to throw a ball with them, if you get a
- 18:28chance to tell them, hey, pull your pants up, that's not right.
- 18:30If you get a chance to tell them, hey, stand up straight,
- 18:31poke your chest out, Then you tell them.
- 18:33You tell them all. You teach them all.
- 18:34You show them all something because you're their senior.
- 18:38You're their sensei, No matter what it is.
- 18:40It doesn't matter if you're a Carpenter.
- 18:42It doesn't matter if you're a policeman.
- 18:43It doesn't matter if you're a soldier.
- 18:45It doesn't matter what you are. You all know something.
- 18:47You've been here longer. And so we can guide.
- 18:50Hey, hey, kids, come here. And like, I'm not just speaking
- 18:55from, I'm not just speaking like, you know, like a role
- 18:58model, like some sort of some sort of guy on TV that's just
- 19:01talking like come here, come here, come here.
- 19:04Hurry up, hurry up. I am, I am all of those things
- 19:07like here's my daughter. Here's my daughter.
- 19:11See, we, we, we got this figured out.
- 19:12Come here, come, hurry up. Come here.
- 19:16Like I'm, I'm telling you like, they, they, they are to be, you
- 19:21know, here's my son. Why you hiding?
- 19:24Say hi, Say hi. Hi.
- 19:29Hi. Hi.
- 19:30He just woke up. So, like, I got a few more up
- 19:34there too. So like, I'm done.
- 19:37Thank you. She she loves the cameras.
- 19:41So, so yeah. So we're like, we have a chance
- 19:46to affect the future, to affect the world, to affect the the
- 19:50people in it, to show them what was capable and even to the
- 19:53women too. Now come on, come on, our women,
- 19:57come on. Somebody got to teach these
- 19:59girls how to stand up straight. Somebody got to put a book on
- 20:01their head to teach them how to walk with heels on.
- 20:03Somebody got to teach them how to put.
- 20:04Deodorant on. Now how to be womanly?
- 20:06Like this shit is getting weird. Like somebody got to take
- 20:10responsibility for that, you know, just like my father made
- 20:14me a real man. Y'all have to make these women,
- 20:16these little girls real women. Like stop pointing the finger
- 20:22and then teach them. I teach them like it's they got
- 20:26to be taught. So I would say yeah, just pass
- 20:31it, pass it on, you know, pass it forward.
- 20:33You know, show them how strong you can be.
- 20:35Show them you can overcome anything.
- 20:37You know, I go to the track with my, with my oldest daughter and
- 20:40we, we, I run with her when she's getting ready for her
- 20:44workouts and the, and the guys are like, that's your dad.
- 20:47Oh my God, he's fast. Who is that guy?
- 20:50Like, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm with it, I'm with it.
- 20:52I show up. You know what I mean?
- 20:54And that's all you got to do is show up.
- 20:56You don't got to be rich. You don't got to be a
- 20:57millionaire. You don't got to just show up.
- 21:00Just show up. And that's the advice that I
- 21:03would give, you know, to these guys, hey, man, show up.
- 21:06Show up for the neighbour kid, Show up for your kids.
- 21:09Show up for your sister's kids. Show up.
- 21:12Just show up. You know, that's all.
- 21:15That's all it takes. Yeah, absolutely.
- 21:19When it gets. So is there anything else that
- 21:23you kind of want to touch on when you talk about the mindset
- 21:27and what you really witnessed with your parents giving you
- 21:32this guideline, helping you really navigate this crazy
- 21:38situation you are born into and or how maybe you even got into
- 21:45fighting, maybe how you even gotten a bare knuckle in the 1st
- 21:47place. Like anything you want to touch
- 21:49on about all your origins at all.
- 21:52Yeah, so like I said, my mother and father is like a 1-2 punch,
- 21:56like, you know, like like like a, a dynamic duo.
- 21:59Like even right now, if I pick up the phone, if I call my dad,
- 22:03my mom will answer. If I call my mom's phone, my dad
- 22:06will answer. Like I, I know if I want to talk
- 22:08to my dad, call my mom's phone. Like it is, It's crazy because
- 22:12that, you know, there's nothing wrong with that symbiotic
- 22:15relationship, that real love, that true dependency.
- 22:18People forgot everybody's independent this independent
- 22:22that. I want my own this.
- 22:23I want my own that like, well, hold up, wait a minute.
- 22:26We're not designed to be alone. Stop that nonsense right now.
- 22:32You like, that's that's like having one hand.
- 22:34Like, what the hell? How you gonna juggle with one
- 22:37hand? Like, come on, like you gotta,
- 22:39you need some help. Like you, you need some help,
- 22:41You know, so, so like everybody's out trying to go at
- 22:45it alone and it, it's just, it's just you, you're killing
- 22:49yourself. So yeah, I watched my mom and
- 22:52dad do the 1212 punch thing, The Karate Kid thing.
- 22:55They, they were, they were awesome, an awesome team.
- 22:57You know, they gave each other leeway.
- 22:59They both made mistakes. They, they, they, they didn't
- 23:02beat each other up about it. They just, you know, they just,
- 23:06they just roll with the punches. And we watched that, you know,
- 23:09me and my sisters and brothers, we just watched it.
- 23:11And so Lorenzo, the same. I still live that way, you know?
- 23:15Lorenzo, what's up? Yeah, just a quick joke.
- 23:18So who, who was the jab and who was the hook?
- 23:23Oh, my mom's the jab. My mom's the jab.
- 23:28I I guess it's not my mom's. My mom will start the shit.
- 23:35She will. She will be the initiator of
- 23:38everything, whether it's good or bad or whatever.
- 23:41She's the first to jump. My dad is definitely the hook.
- 23:44Like he's definitely the two. He's definitely going to pull up
- 23:47like my your like a jab will start some shit, but a hook is
- 23:53going to finish. He's going to finish the job.
- 23:55He's going to put the two and two together.
- 23:57He's going to make what the jab initiated possible.
- 24:01He's going to finish the job, you know?
- 24:03Yeah, that that's the jab in the hook all day.
- 24:05Yeah, my mom is definitely the dive.
- 24:07She'll she'll get some shit jumping and then my dad will
- 24:09come make it real. You know, so where the fights
- 24:12where the fights in South for orthodox?
- 24:16My my mom and dad is left-handed.
- 24:19Oh wow, S for then. So that's another clue.
- 24:22That's another clue as to why these why these left-handed
- 24:25dudes don't stand a chance in hell.
- 24:29Every slap, every pop, every it came out of the left out of the
- 24:35right right southpaw stance. So they, not they, you don't
- 24:40stand a chance to, if you're a lefty, you, you're done.
- 24:42You're done. I think I got out of the, out of
- 24:45the 10 knockouts in a row that I got like, I, I think seven of
- 24:49them were lefties, like 7 or 8 of them were left-handed guys
- 24:53that thought that southpaw would be tricky for me.
- 24:55No, go to sleep, go to sleep. So yeah, like it's it's been a
- 25:04while ride, man. I'm I'm really blessed to have
- 25:08took in so much negativity and learned how to remould it and
- 25:13reform it and change it into positivity.
- 25:16My father literally taught me that's the pain is the
- 25:20blessings, the pressure is the blessing.
- 25:24The problems are the blessings. When you play for breast, when
- 25:28you pray for blessings, you're praying for problems that you
- 25:33can overcome. So when you pray for shit, it's
- 25:38going to get heavy you. Have to prove yourself.
- 25:41I hate that. I hate.
- 25:43How true that is, I hate. It.
- 25:45Lorenzo, Lorenzo, Lorenzo, I have a question for you.
- 25:49I have a question for you. I have a question for you.
- 25:51Now I am suspecting something. Did yourself and Doela, did you
- 25:55guys go to the same school? Because you guys seem to be from
- 25:57the same. No, because she no, she she has
- 25:59told me the same thing you were telling me before.
- 26:02I mean the the school of the school of Hard Knocks.
- 26:05No, Listen to. Listen to the.
- 26:10School of some real shit, no? It it creates, it creates for
- 26:14me, for me the perseverance and the, the, the, the pressure
- 26:20creates the perseverance in me that no one can calculate.
- 26:23No one can understand how excited I get when I have a
- 26:29problem. Well, that's The thing is
- 26:34perseverance, like when we talk about perseverance and we talk
- 26:37about So what you're actually speaking on, I just want to
- 26:40touch on it real quick. I'm like very intellectual about
- 26:42a lot of things and I have to pick them out for our audience
- 26:45because it's so important for us to not only show how great you
- 26:50are, but to teach others exactly the science and the spirituality
- 26:56of what's going on so they can apply it to their lives.
- 26:58What you're actually speaking about is transmutation.
- 27:01So taking the energy of whatever is going on, which is the
- 27:06problem which we hate. A lot of times it breaks us down
- 27:12and we just try to avoid it, or we try to get the problem to go
- 27:16away. And then once it goes away and
- 27:18we feel a little bit at ease, we can be on a completely different
- 27:22path or the wrong path a lot of times to even get to what we
- 27:26actually want, which is, you know, it could be a mindset
- 27:29shift. It could be a personal
- 27:31transformation, as it usually is, as what the human experience
- 27:35is, is a personal transformation.
- 27:37But transmutation is when you take the energy of whatever is
- 27:42coming into your life, whether it's anger or whether it's a
- 27:45massive problem or whether it's, you know, stubbornness or
- 27:49anything like that. And you literally move it into
- 27:55the energy of what you actually want.
- 27:58So just really want to speak on that because it sounds like
- 28:02that's something that you've mastered.
- 28:04And that's why you get excited. That's why you get excited when
- 28:08you're faced with a problem is because you've figured out how
- 28:11to transmute the energy from something negative to positive.
- 28:16And that's also why like going even a tiny bit deeper for our
- 28:21audience, why when we talk about light, light and darkness,
- 28:27right? Why there is no light without
- 28:29the darkness. And when we're working with
- 28:32energy or when we're working, you know, towards our goal
- 28:36towards I can talk towards our sole purpose or whatever it is,
- 28:42it's because we need a lot of times.
- 28:45And this isn't all the time. This does not apply to
- 28:47everybody, but definitely applies to me and applies to I
- 28:51would say 99.9% of people at least some point in their life.
- 28:56You know, someone like me, it's, but sometimes you'll go through
- 28:58periods where it's a lot of dark and not a lot of light.
- 29:03It's because that, like you said, that problem is the
- 29:08blessing, because when you're in the darkness, that's the that's
- 29:13where you build the skill of transmutation, that's where you
- 29:16build. It yeah, I call it turning
- 29:19pressure into power. So like a. 100%.
- 29:22Yeah, so, so like even just to give you an example from my last
- 29:26fight, when I say to you that I get excited when I'm faced with
- 29:33the problem or faced with the challenge, I'm talking like like
- 29:36near arousal. Like this is like my this is my
- 29:41time to shine. Like this is it.
- 29:44So the guy punches me in the back of the head and knocks me
- 29:48down. What do I do?
- 29:51I get up and clap for him. I saw that wife watch watch this
- 30:00mother fucker watch this OK Yeah, You you did that Yeah, I'm
- 30:05I'm happy for you watch this go to sleep.
- 30:09You're going to sleep now When I when I, when I said, when I say
- 30:15like I'm, I get excited when my, when the problem arise, because
- 30:22I know that the blessing and I know that the, the, the, the
- 30:25treasure is right behind the issue, right?
- 30:29That that whatever arose, for example, I got all my kids in
- 30:34the car and we run out of gas. I jump out of the car and start
- 30:39pushing before it even stops. The kids are like, Oh my God,
- 30:43it's going so fast. Now I got to work out in.
- 30:48Now I got to work out in. I didn't stop.
- 30:50I didn't wait for help. I didn't bang on the steering
- 30:52wheel. I didn't lose my mind.
- 30:53I didn't call roadside service. I pushed this bitch for a mile
- 30:57to the gas station. Now I'm stronger.
- 31:01I've worked on my cardio today. I got the gas.
- 31:06Everybody's happy. We riding up.
- 31:08I don't see problems as a curse. I see them as a blessing.
- 31:15And until people mature enough to welcome their problems, they
- 31:21will never truly welcome their blessings, nor will they
- 31:25appreciate them. You won't appreciate nothing you
- 31:28didn't work hard for. You won't appreciate nothing you
- 31:30didn't put in, put, put in that work for.
- 31:33You know that you didn't. You had to be here before you
- 31:37got there. I'm all about that shit.
- 31:41Run it. Run me my fade.
- 31:42Like if you got it, if you strong, show me.
- 31:45If you can knock me down, do it now you show me you can knock me
- 31:50down. Show me you can get up.
- 31:52When I knock you down, they don't usually get up.
- 31:56They usually get back up. They're usually I practise,
- 32:01yeah. I practise getting up though.
- 32:03And I mean, I practise getting up.
- 32:05You know, mentally people will be like, why would you practise
- 32:07getting up? That means you're going to, that
- 32:09means you're, you're going to fall.
- 32:10Yes, I plan it. Yes, I'm probably going to fall.
- 32:14That's life. But I'm going to get up, you
- 32:18know, I'm I'm definitely going to get up.
- 32:20That's been the story of my life.
- 32:22It ain't about not falling. It's about getting up.
- 32:26Love that, love that we're going to have AI kind of move into a
- 32:31little bit more about your mindset and really your identity
- 32:36as the Juggernaut AI. How you feeling?
- 32:40Whoa, I am, I am excited. I'm blessed to have you,
- 32:44brother. But I think I have a little
- 32:46surprise for you, Lorenzo. Anyways, no, Noella is a singer,
- 32:51is a singer here. I am the assistant singer.
- 32:54So I'm going to start this song. If you are.
- 32:57Oh, my God, you are a superstar. I don't.
- 33:04I don't know. They're ready.
- 33:05I don't know the rap. I don't know.
- 33:12That wasn't so clearly my head brother.
- 33:14Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
- 33:16I don't know that song. I know like melody.
- 33:19No, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a fire.
- 33:21It's a fire song. Honestly, it's a fire song.
- 33:25But to be, to be perfectly honest, to be perfectly
- 33:28truthful, bro, I don't see myself as a superstar.
- 33:30I don't see myself as a celebrity.
- 33:32I don't see myself in those ways, bro.
- 33:34I'm just a regular guy. I'm just a regular guy with his
- 33:38family at Waffle House chilling. When I go to Walmart, I buy
- 33:41cereal and almond milk just like you.
- 33:43I, I, I make pancakes for the kids just like you.
- 33:46I put gas in my car. Just, I tell myself I'm not, I'm
- 33:49not a superstar. I don't have no desire to be a
- 33:51superstar. I just want to take care of my
- 33:53family and do my thing. I'm a martial artist.
- 33:56I'm very good at what I do. I take pride in my, in my work
- 34:00ethic and my ability to shine in my little area.
- 34:04The, the, the stardom part is like what, 2 minutes?
- 34:08How long was my fight is a minute like, and even in that
- 34:10moment, I'm not thinking about, I don't have the weight of, of,
- 34:14of, of being a star or being embarrassed or anything on me
- 34:19when I'm fighting. So you knock me down.
- 34:21So you, you, you punched me. So what?
- 34:23Like I'm not weighted down or embarrassed by my actions in any
- 34:28way, shape or form. I'm just genuine.
- 34:31If you knock me down, you knock me down.
- 34:32If you hit the shot, you hit the shot.
- 34:33If you, if you beat me, you beat me, I'll you know, I'll be back.
- 34:36I never really let the Super stardom thing or the celebrity
- 34:39thing get to me, even to the point to where like when people
- 34:44approach me for pictures or for, for, for when they approached me
- 34:49for pictures or they, they approached me for autographs.
- 34:52Sure, whatever. Like I'll sign whatever.
- 34:55I'll take a picture with whoever it is not, I'm not diva like
- 34:59I'm, I'm not, I'll probably never entered the diva realm of
- 35:03or leave me alone or no autographs.
- 35:05I don't, I don't see myself that way.
- 35:07No matter how much money is involved, no matter how many
- 35:10people scream my name or love me, I'll just never be that guy.
- 35:14I'll never be a superstar or a weirdo.
- 35:17I'm just, I'm just here. I'm just a fighter, you know,
- 35:21I'm just a dad. I'm just a brother.
- 35:23I'm just, you know, I'm just a, a man.
- 35:25I'm just a husband. I'm I'm the things that men
- 35:28should aspire to be. Not, not, not a superstar.
- 35:33You know, I'm just a strong man, you know, I'm just a my father's
- 35:37son. I love that.
- 35:39I love that. Now you're reminding me of that
- 35:41song. Bring knock you down.
- 35:43Knock you down this dude, we're going to change your name to
- 35:47jukebox. Change your name to jukebox,
- 35:51bro. No, but really, but really like
- 35:54anybody who knows me, anybody who's ever met me know like bro,
- 35:57I'm I'm sort of the earth. I'm down, I'm down.
- 35:59You know, there's a there's a kid I was training for the Mike
- 36:05Richmond fight. So we went up to the top of the
- 36:07mountain in Albuquerque, NM with snowing.
- 36:10Everybody was kind of locked in and there was a car that was
- 36:15stuck in the snow. We were jogging down the
- 36:18mountain trying to get my lungs acclimated to the to the
- 36:20altitude. And I just went over.
- 36:23I dug him out with my hands. Me and my crew, we pushed him.
- 36:27We pushed him out. He rolled away.
- 36:29He was like, thanks guys. He didn't know who I was.
- 36:31He was like, thanks guys, thank you.
- 36:33Later on, he saw me on the on the news.
- 36:36He saw me on the on the thing. He was like, Hey, that's the
- 36:39guy, that's the guy who dug me out the snow.
- 36:42And then he, he did this long blog on the thing.
- 36:44He was like, hey, that guy helped me out of the snow.
- 36:47He was jogging. I never told him why I was or
- 36:49not just helped him out the snow.
- 36:51And I just, I don't know. I don't carry that, that fame
- 36:57like a badge. You know what I mean?
- 36:59I don't, it's not. I'm just doing me the, my
- 37:02regular thing, you know, helping people and, and, and, and, and
- 37:07having fun. And it's turned into like a like
- 37:11a super stardom or like some sort of celebrity status.
- 37:14But I'm just having fun. Like I'm in the ring.
- 37:17I'm having fun, I'm training, I'm having fun.
- 37:19I'm I, I was at the gym this morning.
- 37:21I was on live at the gym this morning at 6:00.
- 37:23I'm having fun. Like, I don't know if these guys
- 37:26can beat me if it's a chore for them.
- 37:29And I'm having fun every time I have a problem, it's not a
- 37:33chore. It's I'm having, I'm having a
- 37:35great time, you know? Yeah.
- 37:38So we're going to change your name to love.
- 37:40The curse of that song. Sometimes love comes around and
- 37:45it knocks you down. Just give back up and it knocks
- 37:48you down, knocks you down, bro. That's that's that's that's
- 37:52that's Diddy's name. You're going to scare Noella
- 37:55away. Don't say my name to love.
- 38:00OK, OK. We'll leave it as a juggernaut.
- 38:05We'll leave it as a juggernaut. So I I actually do have a
- 38:08surprise for you, right? And it's interesting.
- 38:10You, you are beauty. You you're giving me the beauty
- 38:13up to that surprise, right? You've talked about how
- 38:15authentic you are, you know, into social media and other
- 38:18stuff, right. Do you know I interviewed the
- 38:22BKFC president last year, David. Yeah, I heard that.
- 38:27I heard that. I think I saw a little, little
- 38:29bit of it. Yeah.
- 38:31Yeah, yeah. What do you say about me?
- 38:33He always says something different.
- 38:36Yeah, I'm, I'm going to show, I'm going to show you what you
- 38:37said about you, right? But it is what I said.
- 38:40It is what I said about you that is very important here.
- 38:44So on that on that interview, I manifested having you on this
- 38:49podcast and it's a full circle moment having you today.
- 38:54You know, when I saw the message from your management team, I was
- 38:58like, wow, interesting. Yeah, I manifested, you know,
- 39:01yeah, it happened. But you know, I've always been a
- 39:04very big admirer of yourself, you know, as a person.
- 39:07And you know what you stand for. I've never met you in person.
- 39:12But the real recognizer, real I know what piece of plane is.
- 39:16I know a person with a good mindset, correct mindset.
- 39:21You're an inspiration. You can check your phone, right?
- 39:23I did say I sent you a message. I sent you Adm on Instagram.
- 39:27I think trying to trying to 1st March 2024.
- 39:32It's close to two years now, right?
- 39:34And I wanted you on the podcast. I think I need to find what I
- 39:37said to you on that, on that message and that that actually
- 39:42speaks to how much I appreciate you.
- 39:44And by the way, you got me to the BKFCI.
- 39:47I'm a UFC guy. Wow, watching people watching
- 39:51you. You are what?
- 39:52Wow, watching people put them down, bro, it's crazy.
- 39:56You know, you brought me to BKFC.
- 39:59Conor McGregor brought me into the UFC.
- 40:03So now I think, yeah, it's one of two now.
- 40:07Like I've manifested having you. Now I'm manifesting having Conor
- 40:11McGregor. So you need to send this to
- 40:13Conor McGregor. Conor McGregor, yo you.
- 40:17We want you. Yeah, brother.
- 40:19Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fine.
- 40:21That's fine. OK.
- 40:24So I've got to read out the message I sent to you are, I
- 40:27think 21st March 2024. I said hi, Lorenzo.
- 40:31Trust your grades. OK.
- 40:33Let me see. Yeah.
- 40:35Should I? Should I share on the screen?
- 40:37OK. Hi, Lorenzo.
- 40:38Trust your grade. I am an admirer of your
- 40:42authenticity and achievements in life and combat sports.
- 40:46I'll appreciate if you can be on my podcast soon.
- 40:49Looking forward to your response.
- 40:52Did I respond? No, I usually do.
- 40:55Read it. Listen.
- 40:56You did not even read it. Listen.
- 40:59If I, if I see it, I usually respond.
- 41:02If like you sent it to me before we were followers or something.
- 41:05I'm still kind of new to it. Like sometimes it keeps it
- 41:08blocks out certain people or block.
- 41:10I don't ever see it in my DMS. Absolutely.
- 41:13Can you see it? Can you see it here?
- 41:15Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I see it. Yeah.
- 41:18Yeah, I see it. I'll look for it.
- 41:20Yeah, the time stamp is there. I'll look for it.
- 41:23If you send me a new message. Yeah.
- 41:25If you send me a let let me send you a new message, maybe I'll be
- 41:29able to see it. New message.
- 41:31Yeah. And then and like I said, make
- 41:33sure I've. If I follow it, does it say that
- 41:36we that I follow you? I don't think so.
- 41:40Does it say that I follow you? Yeah.
- 41:41Dave. Yeah, Dave.
- 41:43OK, OK, OK, so let me tell you, let me show you what Dave said
- 41:47about you or what we said about you.
- 41:50There you go. I see the compass right so right
- 42:00and think the numbers pro. So.
- 42:07Sometimes I can in terms of the. Right.
- 42:26So sometimes we have you know what, you have a cash cows, you
- 42:28have a you have a child. I think you lose me.
- 42:31You might have to send it to me and then I can that you guys are
- 42:44the sons. They kind of.
- 43:17That you recruit, that you guys have had, you know, in a very,
- 43:20very short period of time now as a president, you have actually
- 43:24encountered like various challenges and successes, right
- 43:30then can you actually share memorable moments or attempting
- 43:40point significantly impacted the trajectory?
- 43:53Let's see, right now, Yeah, I think there was a few of them,
- 43:58but I think most. OK, I'm pretty sure you
- 44:00disconnected. Yeah, I, I pretty much heard it.
- 44:05He was talking about when Conor McGregor came.
- 44:10You know, I, I threw my belt over his shoulder because, you
- 44:14know, Conor McGregor is the fucking champ, bro.
- 44:18He he paved the way kind of like I did for BKFC and Connor made
- 44:25it easy because he knew who I was.
- 44:27He was like, holy shit, that's the double champ.
- 44:29When I walked up to him, his security tried to stop me.
- 44:32There was, he was like, bro, no, that's the double champ.
- 44:37Even BKFC security wasn't sure if he would be like, cool with
- 44:41me coming over, you know, so even our own security would try
- 44:45to stop me from, from kicking it with, from kicking it with Dave.
- 44:51I mean, from kicking it with, I was telling her that he was just
- 44:55talking about when Connor came to the fight.
- 44:58You know, I'm sitting ringside. I got my girl, I got the belts
- 45:02and I'm like, holy shit, that's Connor.
- 45:04So, you know, I'm walking up to him with two belts.
- 45:06Like, hey, I'm the double champ. Our security, BKFC security
- 45:09tried to stop me. I'm like, bro, I'm the champ.
- 45:15They're like, no, no, no, don't go bother him.
- 45:17Conor McGregor's like, hey, hey, hey, that's the champ.
- 45:21What's up double champ? He'd been watching.
- 45:24See what I'm saying? So like even sometimes you have
- 45:27people like or, or getting in the way.
- 45:29You know, the, the, the bureaucrats, the they don't even
- 45:33recognise your, your greatness and you see them every day.
- 45:39But somebody like Conor McGregor from all the way overseas flies
- 45:43all the way here in the private jets.
- 45:44He don't know you, he knows me. So I walk up to him and I say,
- 45:49hey, what's up, champ? Da da, da da.
- 45:50And then he he daps me up. He takes pictures with me.
- 45:55He signs my belt. That one of that belt right
- 45:58there got Conor McGregor's signature on it.
- 46:00Then we go back to our seats and Mike Perry calls out Conor
- 46:06McGregor. Conor McGregor's no bitch.
- 46:09He's like, nobody can't call me out.
- 46:11You know what I mean? What?
- 46:12So he walks up to the stage. I'm like, hey, Conor, take the
- 46:17belt. He's like, yeah, give him the
- 46:20belt. He walks in the ring, he says
- 46:22I've been here in 10 minutes and I already got that out, you
- 46:26know? And it was like it, it went
- 46:28viral across every platform. MMA, bear, nose, whatever.
- 46:34Everybody was like, holy shit, Conor McGregor has a BKFC belt.
- 46:39That was a picture. That was all we needed.
- 46:41Then Dana White commented what's what's kind of doing with that
- 46:46doubt, which brought even more attention to it.
- 46:49You know, and it's just being there.
- 46:52That's that's what I was talking about, like about the divine,
- 46:57you know, following your guidance.
- 47:00It's a clear path. Yeah.
- 47:02It's only the idiocy in you that wants to go the hardware, go
- 47:05through the bushes or go to God has created a clear path.
- 47:10It's a clear path. So it was, I was just right
- 47:14there with the belt. It happened again just recently.
- 47:17Christine Ferreira won the Queen of Violence belt and they didn't
- 47:22have her actual belt. And they were like, hey, no,
- 47:28throw up the belt. I got 7 of them, don't worry.
- 47:31Yeah, yeah, I got belts for everybody.
- 47:33You know what I'm saying? So I throws Christine a belt.
- 47:38I've been here, like you say, when Dave says like, hey, this
- 47:41dude is, this dude is a Mount Rushmore fighter.
- 47:44Like I'm not just a fighter. I'm thinking I'm the guy who was
- 47:49backstage training Britain Hart when she fought Paige Mazen.
- 47:56I'm the guy that trained Julian Lane and gave Julian Lane the
- 48:03cards to throw in Mike Perry face that created the first Mike
- 48:08Perry fight. I'm the guy who called Mike
- 48:11Perry when he was on the couch after he got into the bullshit
- 48:16at the restaurant with the old guy where remember, he was
- 48:19suspended from the USD. He had no, he had no job.
- 48:21I called Mike Perry. I reached out to him.
- 48:24I said, bro, you should come to be KFC.
- 48:26They just gave Paige Vanzant a tonne of money.
- 48:29I said you and Alex Nicholson should come here and make noise.
- 48:33I'm the guy that went to Hector Lombard's gym and challenged
- 48:36him, jumped in the ring with him and he punched me in the face.
- 48:39Went viral across every platform.
- 48:43It's me. It's it's not just fighting.
- 48:45You understand what I'm saying? You have to be in the room.
- 48:48You have to be be there. You have to put your heart in
- 48:51it. You have to invest in it.
- 48:54I'm that guy. I've I've I've been a part of
- 48:56everything. You know what I'm saying?
- 48:58I was ringside when when Elvin Brito got robbed out of his
- 49:03championship against, against. Wow, What the fuck?
- 49:08It was Palomino, You know, I was, I was a part of every
- 49:11Palomino. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 49:14I was a part of everything when it came, when it came to the
- 49:18BKFC growing now, I didn't have money.
- 49:22I came from the tryouts. I didn't come with a bunch of
- 49:25sponsors. I didn't come with with, with
- 49:27with rich guys backing me. I came with my heart.
- 49:32I came like, how can I help? I helped carry in cases from the
- 49:36truck when they were setting up. I helped set up the ring.
- 49:40I helped pick up people from the airport.
- 49:43I was the Bugs Bunny. I helped do security.
- 49:45I would break guys up when they would fight on stage.
- 49:47That was me standing next to Dave like I was security.
- 49:50The guys would start fighting. I would, I would snatch them up.
- 49:54I made myself a integral part of an organisation that had big
- 50:03dreams and that made me the person I am, you understand?
- 50:09That made me, that helped make me famous.
- 50:12I showed up to every fight. I passed out cards, I took
- 50:15pictures with everybody. Even before I had the belt, I
- 50:17was the same way I am. You know, I brought charities
- 50:22in. I, I, I, I donated portions of
- 50:24my, of my, of my, my purses and I took donations for the
- 50:29National Alliance to end Veteran Suicide.
- 50:31I brought attention from the national, from the Multiple
- 50:33Sclerosis Foundation. I did whatever I could do.
- 50:38I'm not rich. I wasn't rich.
- 50:41I came through the tryouts. So regular guy, but if you help
- 50:46somebody, you help yourself. That's the message, you know,
- 50:54and that's why David Feldman's like, bro, this guy, let him do
- 50:57whatever he was like, whatever, whatever, you know, whatever he
- 51:00wants. Like he he don't miss, you know,
- 51:03I'm the I'm I'm telling you, I'm the guy you can call.
- 51:08Good morning. You just want to say hi?
- 51:12Say hi. She's our late bloomer.
- 51:21She would not stay out of the way.
- 51:22She was standing there like, can I come?
- 51:25Yeah, I don't. I don't hide my babies.
- 51:27I let them. I let them.
- 51:29I let them shine with me, you know?
- 51:31So, yeah. That this this the way the way
- 51:34it is. I mean, I'm an open book.
- 51:38I give courses, I teach classes, I have classes on the Internet.
- 51:42You can YouTube my techniques, my fighting style, my mentality,
- 51:46but the shit that I've been through in this life, it will be
- 51:51like, it will be like trying to use alchemy to recreate gold
- 52:01just because you know the ingredients.
- 52:03Bruh, I'm, I don't even know all the ingredients.
- 52:06I'm just telling you the part that I know, the part that I
- 52:09know. This is how I maintain it.
- 52:11This is how I this is how I'm strong in myself and my
- 52:15personality. This is how I speak because I
- 52:17speak the truth. I don't have to stumble across
- 52:19my words. I don't have to make shit up.
- 52:21If I tell you, I'm going to be sure I can tell you.
- 52:23If I tell you how I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it.
- 52:25I'm not going to change my mind. So like that genuineness
- 52:31translates into single minded miss and a goal oriented person.
- 52:39Like I'm I'm not changing my mind.
- 52:43Even with Josh Dyer, my plan was to go slow, to let him win a
- 52:52little bit. I did it very, in a very weird
- 52:58way. Nobody's really recognising
- 52:59that. I turned sideways from him and I
- 53:01stuck my foot out. He had to jump across my leg to
- 53:07get close enough to land a punch.
- 53:09That's karate, that's martial arts.
- 53:12To be in a karate stance. He didn't recognise.
- 53:17He didn't recognise it, so he did it again.
- 53:23OK, Everybody's like, Oh my God, he's not throwing any punches.
- 53:26What's wrong with Lorenzo? He did it again.
- 53:31Go to sleep. It was the plan.
- 53:36It was the plan. One punch, you're out of here.
- 53:40That's karate. That's Kempo.
- 53:44That's martial arts. Go watch martial arts.
- 53:47They don't throw a whole bunch of punches.
- 53:50They go, yeah, and your ass is dead.
- 53:55And they do it a million times. So what I am, I don't know if I
- 54:03can teach it. I can tell you a few things.
- 54:05I can give you some pointers, but I can't I, I don't think I
- 54:09can teach anybody to be me or do it like me.
- 54:12I can just tell you how I do what I do, but I don't, I don't
- 54:16know if anybody can do it. You know, I just, I just tossed
- 54:22it up, you know, and this, this honesty and this genuineness is
- 54:26brought me this far. So why abandoned it?
- 54:28You know, that's how I, that's how I rock.
- 54:35Wow, wow. It's really amazing.
- 54:38You know how authentic you are. Even though I had, I had never
- 54:41met you, I'd never had interaction with you.
- 54:44I always felt it like this guy is a very genuine person.
- 54:47And of course, you know the time stamps, you know, the, the
- 54:51evidence is there. I, I used to work with the B4
- 54:55accounting firms. BWCKPMG.
- 54:57And you know what? What do you guys call ACPA in
- 55:00the US? I'm a chartered accountant.
- 55:02And there's something we say in the world of accounting, if it
- 55:05was not documented, it was not done.
- 55:07So it's Oh yeah, it's well documented.
- 55:10It is well documented, you know, and I appreciate.
- 55:13Well, honestly, listen, honestly, that's the tip of the
- 55:19iceberg. There is so much about me, so
- 55:23much, so many things I can do. There's so much that you haven't
- 55:27seen that it will blow your mind.
- 55:31They just get a little piece of me, just a little tiny piece of
- 55:35me, my family, my kids. Like if I walk you outside, bro,
- 55:38listen, I have a tow truck with a punching bag on the back of
- 55:43it. My wife drives it around the
- 55:47neighbourhood and I run behind her punching the bag.
- 55:52The neighbours are like, Oh yeah, that's, that's the champ.
- 55:56That's, that's just, he's just doing his thing.
- 55:58No, no, that's, that's our crazy, our crazy world champion
- 56:01neighbour. You know, I'm, I'm so I'm, I'm
- 56:06so, I'm so out there, you know, I'm, I'm out there with it, but
- 56:09I'm having fun with it too, you know, And now my son, he's like,
- 56:12hey, dad, can I come? Can I come?
- 56:13I want to do it, you know, So now I got to a, a, a, a, a, a
- 56:18nine year old, a 10 year old, you know, running behind a tow
- 56:21truck punching A punching bag, you know, and he thinks it's
- 56:25normal. Now, how great will he be?
- 56:29How great will he be? We don't know.
- 56:32No, we we just going to let it happen just because I led him in
- 56:35the direction, you know? Wow.
- 56:38Yeah. So, brother, you, you, you, you
- 56:41called out Mike Perry. What was the deeper message
- 56:44behind that call out? They, they the king of violence
- 56:49thing? It irks me.
- 56:51You know, me having the most knockouts in the BKFC, me having
- 56:54the most, the most difficult fights, me, me being the most
- 56:59sensational, The, you know, my fights are the most rewarding.
- 57:04You know, I've took in the biggest challenges and I just
- 57:08feel like, you know, having someone walk around and claim to
- 57:12be the king of violence is just nonsense.
- 57:14It's just, it just feels this genuine.
- 57:16And I already told you I'm a genuine person, you know, and
- 57:19then being, you know, considered the face of the KFC and all of
- 57:23that, you know, like, like why? You know, you're, you're, you're
- 57:28just the the highest paid fighter.
- 57:33You know, it's not really because you're the best.
- 57:36It's like, you know, it's a real division to me.
- 57:40It I wouldn't want that position if I wasn't the baddest man
- 57:44here. I wouldn't never say a word.
- 57:47I'd be quiet as a mouse. But to be walking around like
- 57:51you're the Conor McGregor of BKFC, bro, you're not, you're
- 57:56not, you're not the superstar. You're you're, you're the guy
- 57:59that you're the you're the guy. They pretend you're Tony the
- 58:03Tiger. You're Tony the Tiger, you know,
- 58:07You're the guy on the box, you know what I'm saying?
- 58:10But you're not the guy that made the cereal, bro.
- 58:13Like, you're, you're the guy. Like you're, you're a mascot,
- 58:18you know? And I just feel like, you know,
- 58:22here, imagine this, imagine this.
- 58:26Imagine a BKFC video game hits the shelves and it's Mike Perry
- 58:33on the fucking cover. What?
- 58:41Why? Why would why would he?
- 58:46Why? I think it's AUFC influence.
- 58:51I think it's AUFC influence. You know, it's, it's still, it's
- 58:55still. Listen, UFC is our competition.
- 58:57We shouldn't be trying to praise them guys.
- 59:00He's a viewer. He's he's, he flunked out of the
- 59:03UFC. So I get it, you're bringing
- 59:08viewers over. But the homegrown viewership
- 59:14that brought you over, I brought, I was what the, the
- 59:20type of fighting, the type of sensationalist, the type of shit
- 59:24that I was doing brought you over and then you brought over
- 59:29some followers. You see what I'm saying?
- 59:32That's like, that's like making Paige Van Zandt the putting
- 59:37Paige Van Zandt on the on the on the BKFC video game poster
- 59:43instead of Christine Ferreira. What what, why?
- 59:47Like what you, you get what I'm trying to say.
- 59:50So it's it, it bothers me. How about Britain hearts?
- 59:55Britain hearts. She can get it.
- 59:56She she, she been here the whole time.
- 59:58Shit, the only person beater is Christine, you know what I'm
- 1:00:03saying? They, they've been going,
- 1:00:04they've been in a civil war for seven years.
- 1:00:08They've been going at each other next for seven years.
- 1:00:10Like it's got to be one of them. Shit, you can put them both on
- 1:00:13there, but not Paige. You you see what I'm saying?
- 1:00:17Like you got to you got to. In a perfect world, the people
- 1:00:22who built it would get the credit.
- 1:00:27We know that's not always the case and that's why I called out
- 1:00:31Mike Perry and that's why he's quiet as a mouse.
- 1:00:36He's quiet as a mouse. The King of Violence was called
- 1:00:41out and didn't say anything. What kind of king is that?
- 1:00:48The King of Violence was called out by the most dangerous
- 1:00:53fighter in the BKFC. And you didn't say anything, you
- 1:01:00didn't reply. That's got to be a little bit
- 1:01:03embarrassing. How, how do you envision this
- 1:01:07fight, you know, panning out? Because you guys are not in the
- 1:01:10same weight division and there are weight divisions for a
- 1:01:13reason. You are the bigger fighter.
- 1:01:17He was the bigger fighter when he fought Jeremy Stevenson.
- 1:01:22Nobody cared that Jeremy Stevenson fought from a lighter
- 1:01:25weight class. They lined it up and they put
- 1:01:27his ass out there right? He fought Jake Paul.
- 1:01:33Jake Paul's my size, he's £200. He took his ass over to boxing
- 1:01:38and fought it £200. He fought Jake Paul.
- 1:01:40I'm not even asking the fighter two at 200 lbs, I'm asking to
- 1:01:43put the belt against the belt 185.
- 1:01:45He fought the ex world champ of the UFC in bare knuckle at 185.
- 1:01:51Let's not let's not say, oh, oh, you're so much bigger.
- 1:01:55Oh my God. You know, everybody knows that
- 1:01:58I'm bigger. OK, you know, I'm bigger.
- 1:02:01That's normal. That's my life.
- 1:02:02You know, I'm I'm big. We got it's crazy.
- 1:02:06You're the bigger dog. And you know, his podcast is the
- 1:02:08over dog. Yeah, whatever.
- 1:02:11So then the even with me and Mick Terrell, nobody was like,
- 1:02:16oh, don't do it. He's bigger.
- 1:02:18There's weight classes for a reason.
- 1:02:20Oh my God, he's bigger than you. Nobody did that for me.
- 1:02:23Why? Nobody were nobody said no, you
- 1:02:25shouldn't do it. You know, I I'll keep.
- 1:02:28So why so so so why do it for Mike?
- 1:02:32Right. If, if, if you're a man and you
- 1:02:34know this, if you're a man and you're sitting at the Waffle
- 1:02:39House with your family and some bigger guy comes in and tries to
- 1:02:43punk you, that's it. You're going to weigh them
- 1:02:46first. You're going to say, hey, wait a
- 1:02:47minute, get on the scale, buddy. Let me weigh you first.
- 1:02:51Nah, your your wife and kids might as well hop in the car
- 1:02:54with him. When?
- 1:02:57When? You step to me.
- 1:02:59I'm not going to take the time to weigh you before I knock your
- 1:03:02ass out. I'm not going to take the time
- 1:03:04to to to to see how much you weigh.
- 1:03:06And if you're going to say that, you're the king of violence,
- 1:03:09like. If you're the king of violence,
- 1:03:12is that. If you're allegedly the king of
- 1:03:16violence, is that something? That it's even going to matter.
- 1:03:18To you, right. Would that matter?
- 1:03:20Right? No.
- 1:03:21Right. So yeah, right.
- 1:03:23That's what I'm trying to. Say, yeah, so it's weird, you
- 1:03:26know, it's weird. And, and and honestly, at the
- 1:03:31time when he was crowned the king of violence.
- 1:03:33I was. Already the most dominant
- 1:03:36fighter in DKFC history. There was no path to a belt for
- 1:03:40him that wouldn't have gone through me.
- 1:03:43He couldn't have got a 185 belt. I was already at a 185 temp He
- 1:03:47couldn't have got you get what I'm saying?
- 1:03:50So they made him a belt. They did that because of me.
- 1:03:55The only reason the king of violence belt exists is because
- 1:04:00I'm too good at my job. Lorenzo, I have a.
- 1:04:05Surprise for you here. You got a lot of surprises man.
- 1:04:12I know he just. Pops him.
- 1:04:13Pops him in. Surprise on everybody.
- 1:04:16Yeah, I like that, that. Is the king of the jungle.
- 1:04:22That that right there is the king.
- 1:04:24Of the jungle, right? And I always say this, the lion
- 1:04:28is the king of the jungle, even though it's not the biggest
- 1:04:31animal, right? That's right.
- 1:04:33There's a reason why, you know, the lion is the king of the
- 1:04:36jungle. Strategy, resilience.
- 1:04:38That's right. You know that's right.
- 1:04:40Being brave coverage, a lot of great characters, right?
- 1:04:45And of course, remember, Fortune Favours are brave.
- 1:04:48That's right. I appreciate you man.
- 1:04:50I I won't hold you. Guys up all all day, you know?
- 1:04:53I can talk all day, you know, but I appreciate you for having
- 1:04:57me, man. I appreciate you for rocking
- 1:04:59with me. And like I said, like this is
- 1:05:02I've got some more surprises for you guys.
- 1:05:04I got I got some more, some more grits, some more heart.
- 1:05:07I I love training, so I'm having fun.
- 1:05:09I feel good. I don't feel like an old guy.
- 1:05:11You know, I feel great. So like whoever, whoever's next,
- 1:05:16whether it be Mike Perry, whether it be any of these guys
- 1:05:20that want some smoke, I'm going to give them, I'm going to give
- 1:05:23it, I'm going to give them what they looking for, you know, and
- 1:05:26it's going to be a lot of fun. I didn't come here.
- 1:05:29I'm looking, not looking for nothing easy.
- 1:05:31Like I said, I get excited by a challenge.
- 1:05:33So I'm hoping they find somebody to challenge me, to push me to
- 1:05:36my limits so I can, so I can show you guys what I'm made of.
- 1:05:40I've not yet had the fight that I thought would come.
- 1:05:45I'm, I'm actually 14 and 2. You may I fought for a beard
- 1:05:50knuckle, another bare knuckle organisation before this one.
- 1:05:53And they're sanctioned too. So I fought for BBYB before,
- 1:05:59before I fought for BKFC. And that's two fights.
- 1:06:03I don't know why. Yeah, yeah, one, but then one, I
- 1:06:07don't know what's going on, but yeah.
- 1:06:09So I'm, I'm actually 14 and two, but they just keep messing up.
- 1:06:12If you go back to the fight, when I fought Mick Terrell, they
- 1:06:15introduced me as they introduced me as 12:00 and 12:00 and yeah,
- 1:06:22then they go backwards, then they go forward, then they go
- 1:06:24back. They keep messing up but it's
- 1:06:26OK. Basically I just been here doing
- 1:06:31my thing for a very long time and I have not been challenged
- 1:06:35the way you think that the way I expected to be challenged.
- 1:06:39No one has challenged me the way I thought Bare Knuckle
- 1:06:44Championships would find someone to actually challenge me.
- 1:06:48You know? My 2 losses have been weird
- 1:06:52medical garbage like lightning strike.
- 1:06:55You know, first round I fucking tweak my elbow, dislocate my
- 1:06:59elbow in the first round should have been a no contest.
- 1:07:02And even the first loss to Gustavo Trujillo, he actually
- 1:07:06just ripped my lip with his wraps and it cut me so bad that
- 1:07:11the ref stopped it. But he he shouldn't have.
- 1:07:13He he doesn't even have that power.
- 1:07:15The the doctor. If it's a doctor stoppage, then
- 1:07:18the doctor should have stopped it.
- 1:07:20He didn't. I was up at 3:00.
- 1:07:22You finish the count, you send me to the doctor.
- 1:07:25You give the doctor chance to assess the cut and let the
- 1:07:28doctor stop it. The referee just overzealously
- 1:07:32stop my fight in the first round.
- 1:07:34So I got that lost on my record. But we all know what happens
- 1:07:37when I get up, don't we know what happened when I get up?
- 1:07:42The only thing can stop me is the ref.
- 1:07:44The only thing, the only thing can stop me from knocking your
- 1:07:46ass out is the ref. And that's what he did.
- 1:07:50And he, he's been a good dude. He's apologised to me after
- 1:07:53that. And he, you know, he like, if I
- 1:07:54knew what I knew now, I would have never stopped that fight,
- 1:07:58you know, And so like I said, I'm looking for a challenge.
- 1:08:01I'm I'm looking for somebody who can go toe to toe with me, blow
- 1:08:04for blow, somebody who can take that shot that put Josh Dyer out
- 1:08:08more than I brought more than one.
- 1:08:10You don't think I only got one of those, do you?
- 1:08:12I can do that 30 times in a row, like 30 times.
- 1:08:16Like if he, if the first one don't work, I'll throw it again,
- 1:08:19do it again. And that's that's why I'm
- 1:08:22looking forward to fighting, maybe someday getting a rematch
- 1:08:26with Gustavo Trujillo, someday getting a rematch with Mick
- 1:08:29Terrell, someday fighting the Cuban kid.
- 1:08:32I always forget his name and or, or someday, you know, like I
- 1:08:37said, I want to fight these these bigger guys, these bigger
- 1:08:40names. I am going to go back to
- 1:08:41heavyweight eventually and I'm going to make my mark before
- 1:08:44it's all over. You know, we'll, we'll figure
- 1:08:46out if anybody was a match for me.
- 1:08:51I have three names for you. Number one, Number one would.
- 1:09:01You fight, Jake Paul, come. On man.
- 1:09:08Jake, Jake Paul, man come. On man.
- 1:09:09Stop it, man. Stop.
- 1:09:11Like Jake Paul is a great guy. You know, he's a great fighter.
- 1:09:14He's a great boxer. But you need to ask Jake Paul,
- 1:09:16will he fight me? Why don't you get him on your
- 1:09:19park and say, hey, bro, I got a name for you.
- 1:09:21Would you fight Lorenzo the Juggernaut Hunt, the guy that's
- 1:09:25been knocking people out since way before you thought about
- 1:09:30fighting? Yeah, seriously, he has been
- 1:09:33splashing people all. Over the country, the guy.
- 1:09:36You pretend you never seen the guy.
- 1:09:40You pretend you don't know about the guy that's actually from
- 1:09:43where you're from. Like you're from Amherst.
- 1:09:46You, you from right around the corner from me.
- 1:09:48Like, like you would you fight that guy that's from your
- 1:09:53backyard has been whooping ass all over?
- 1:09:56That's what you need to ask him. Like I haven't turned down a
- 1:09:58fight yet. Like they they don't call me.
- 1:10:02OK, Jack Paul, where are you? The juggernaut hard.
- 1:10:07Now once you man, he's a hunter and the hunter is he's becoming
- 1:10:13the hunter. Hey, now, that's now that's not
- 1:10:17that's not to say he don't got his hands full with this with
- 1:10:22the last fight he just picked. So I'm sorry, Joshua right now.
- 1:10:26Don't I'm sorry, Joshua. Yeah, yeah, don't don't distract
- 1:10:29him right now. He he, he bit off some big that
- 1:10:33boy got some big shoes. But, but, but yeah, my, my hat's
- 1:10:38off to Jake Paul. I love what he's doing in the
- 1:10:40organisation and keeping, keeping boxing alive.
- 1:10:43And I would love to fight him, or at least to be invited to the
- 1:10:48card. Like put me on there with
- 1:10:49somebody else. You know, I'll, I'll rock it out
- 1:10:51with him. We'll sell out, sell out
- 1:10:53together. You know, I, I love the.
- 1:10:55I have another name. I have another name for you,
- 1:10:57Francis and Garner. Francis and Garner.
- 1:10:59Yeah, yeah, Francis. Solid dude.
- 1:11:01You know, I I heard a story about Francis Nugano that he
- 1:11:06walked through the Sahara Desert twice.
- 1:11:09See, we're on the same me and him.
- 1:11:12We're on the same. Wavelength like, like what, you
- 1:11:16want to fight somebody who walked through the Sahara
- 1:11:19desert, got turned around and still came back again like this?
- 1:11:23Bro, no wonder he's so hard to beat.
- 1:11:26Like what are you talking about? That's the same kind of energy
- 1:11:28right there, you know? That's that.
- 1:11:30Yeah. I mean, shit, that's the fight
- 1:11:32I'm looking for. Yeah.
- 1:11:33Him. Maybe John Jones.
- 1:11:35You know, some work like that. You started from my mother.
- 1:11:37I had John Jones. Actually, I had three names for
- 1:11:39you. John Jones was the last one.
- 1:11:41The right, though. You deeply dirty on this one.
- 1:11:44You deeply dirty on this one. John Jones, Mother.
- 1:11:47Yeah. He's awesome, man.
- 1:11:49He's awesome. I I love this fight with him.
- 1:11:52Spar with him, friends with him, hang out with him, whatever.
- 1:11:55Like that. That high level martial arts,
- 1:11:59that energy is like crazy. Like me and Elvin.
- 1:12:03Like me and Elvin, we can go for a jog, a light jog in the
- 1:12:06morning that turned into 20 miles because neither one of us
- 1:12:09would stop. Wow bro, we were.
- 1:12:13Just supposed to go to the corner.
- 1:12:15And we went for 20 miles just because he wouldn't stop and I
- 1:12:18wouldn't stop. So you got to understand that
- 1:12:21that kind of shit turns me on. That's the that's the awesome
- 1:12:24that that building, you know, we get to the top of the mountain.
- 1:12:27He like, OK, that's far enough. And I'm like, you never been up
- 1:12:29there? And he's like, no, well, Oh
- 1:12:32well, come on, let's go. We got 7 miles to go.
- 1:12:35Like this is this is this is the type of guy you're fighting, the
- 1:12:39type of guy that, like I said, is excited or, you know, aroused
- 1:12:44by a challenge. You know this shit is off, but
- 1:12:49like I said, I got daddy. Duties bro, I appreciate you for
- 1:12:51having. Me.
- 1:12:52Thank you. It's nice to meet you, Noella.
- 1:12:55Yeah. I'll keep you on the ground.
- 1:12:56Hit me up. The juggernaut hunt on the
- 1:13:00ground. www.www.juggernauthunt on my website.
- 1:13:06Hit me here. Thank you for having me.
- 1:13:09Bye. Have a good day.