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Jeezy Talks New Album Drop, Teaming Back Up With DJ Drama, Street Cred, Chris Lighty + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Wait that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's the world, no danger. Just want to show the
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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club Charlomagne and God and Angela ye Envy had
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Speaker 1: to snap step out, but we got the legend here
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Speaker 1: man Young Jisel, what I've done pastor Young was happening
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Speaker 1: to my brother Big Snow. That's my favorite record off
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Speaker 1: the new project. By the way, what introduction? Baby, gotta
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Speaker 1: let him know what it is. Snow falls out right now? Man,
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Speaker 1: how are you feeling? Yeah, man, like new money. You know, um,
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Speaker 1: snow falls out right now. Shout out DJ Drama, Don Cannon.
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Speaker 1: Everybody was involved, you know what I mean. It's one
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Speaker 1: of them things man. You know, in your career, just
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Speaker 1: get the moments where you get to play them great games.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And this is one of them.
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Speaker 1: Like you know, I've been doing this for a minute,
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Speaker 1: but it's just like just I just feel rejuvenated. We inspired. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I feel like you found a way to give us mature, evolved.
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Speaker 1: Jay Jenkins was still satisfy the core forever jez fans
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Speaker 1: with this project. How do you think those dots connected?
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Speaker 1: I mean, I just feel like when you're doing it
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Speaker 1: without expectations. Man, we all know, you know, when you're
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Speaker 1: doing it for um, you know, if if you're doing
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Speaker 1: it for the number one record, are you doing it
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Speaker 1: for you know? Uh, you know, I don't know what's
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Speaker 1: what's they call it number one? It's just different, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. But when you're doing it for
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Speaker 1: you and you're just doing what you love and you
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Speaker 1: ain't even looking at it like that, it's just a
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Speaker 1: different feeling. Bro. You know what it says therapeutical for
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Speaker 1: me because it's just like you know, it gives me
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Speaker 1: a chance to just keep myself grounded because I don't
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Speaker 1: been through so much. But sometimes we get so successful
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Speaker 1: with other things we forget the struggle we go so
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Speaker 1: that just like you know, tap me on the shoulder like, hey,
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Speaker 1: don't forget, you can go back for you and DJ
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Speaker 1: Drama the team backed up again. How did those conversations
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Speaker 1: happen from the beginning to get your hair? I mean
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Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know me and Drama went
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Speaker 1: through a lot of stuff. Yeah, we had serious Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we had some serious you know times. I mean it
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Speaker 1: was it was real, and I just think with anything,
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Speaker 1: it's just like over time, you know, people heal, people grow,
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Speaker 1: and I'm proud of with Druma and Cannon and Lake
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Speaker 1: and all them doing. Man, it's amazing because I remember
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Speaker 1: seeing where they came from, and I just think the
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Speaker 1: conversation was, you know, we we there was growth there.
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Speaker 1: We're both successful, but we love what we do, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. So let's just have some fun
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Speaker 1: in this crazy We've been kicking it ever since we've
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Speaker 1: been working on the project, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: And it's just like it just loved because you able
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Speaker 1: to brainstorm with people that are like minded, that that
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Speaker 1: on your level, you know what I'm saying, That are
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Speaker 1: really your peers business wise too. So it's like I
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Speaker 1: bounce ideas off of them and they bounce ideas off
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Speaker 1: of me. And it's even real like you know, you know,
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Speaker 1: real talk. You know when I say on half of Atlanta,
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Speaker 1: I'm not captain, that's the real thing. And when Drama
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Speaker 1: and them was trying to get into real estate, you know,
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Speaker 1: that was a conversation we had and I turned them
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Speaker 1: onto my guy. You know what I'm saying. They helped
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Speaker 1: them and now they they probably owned the other quarter
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Speaker 1: of it. You know what I'm saying, so did you
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Speaker 1: see when the internet went to go look? And you
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Speaker 1: know clearly they don't understand property. They don't understand exactly,
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Speaker 1: ill shout man, come on further of all, I beat
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Speaker 1: the feed. You think I'm gonna let y'all to seat
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Speaker 1: full by, you know what I mean. But it's crazy
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Speaker 1: because you know we as a culture. You're right, you
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Speaker 1: know you say that, And I say that with pride.
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Speaker 1: You know I'm not saying I got a platform. I
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Speaker 1: got plenty platinum records. We all do. But a goal
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Speaker 1: of mine was to really be in the real estate
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Speaker 1: game and be a mogul in it and be for real.
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Speaker 1: And I've done that, you know what I'm saying. But
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Speaker 1: it's crazy, like you said. And it was one of
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Speaker 1: my old houses that I brought my mom, like from
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Speaker 1: Wade back in the day that the first house I
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Speaker 1: bought it and it was still in my name and
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Speaker 1: that's what it was pulling up. I had to call
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Speaker 1: the lady that did my trust and be like, yo,
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Speaker 1: get that out my name too, before you know, somebody
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Speaker 1: tried to assume me and get that. It showed the
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Speaker 1: ignorant because people don't understand lllcs didn't understand trust, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, just like when people say you're
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Speaker 1: obedion that they think you gotta be in dollars in
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Speaker 1: the bank. It's sitting there, you know, waiting for you
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Speaker 1: to go spurs with it. Yeah. When I was watching
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Speaker 1: winning plays, I really, uh I noticed that like as
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Speaker 1: far as you know, buying the Lakers and everything, he
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Speaker 1: actually everything was in real estate. He didn't have a
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Speaker 1: lot of liquid And that was something that struck out
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Speaker 1: to me because I was like, Okay, having all that
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Speaker 1: money in the bank, right, that's not going to increase
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Speaker 1: in value the way that having the property can increase
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Speaker 1: or other investments can increase the value. So just having
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Speaker 1: money sitting because I feel like sometimes our mentality is
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Speaker 1: we gotta stack this money. We gotta stack this money.
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Speaker 1: We got to have a larger bank account. But because
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Speaker 1: of inflation and the way that that rate of money grows,
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Speaker 1: it's not the same. So you do have to invest.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you lose you lose money by just holding it.
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Speaker 1: But I mean I think culturally, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Even when I was coming up, you know, that was it.
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Speaker 1: You want to feel the safer up you know, but
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Speaker 1: if your money is sitting in the bank or sitting
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Speaker 1: in the safe and it's not working for you, it's
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Speaker 1: not doing anything. And that's what we And by the way,
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Speaker 1: it's just like I had to build that up. You know,
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Speaker 1: my credit line is sick, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: You know, if anything was to ever happened, crazy credit line.
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Speaker 1: Then also on top of that, it's like you got equity.
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Speaker 1: You know, almost own most of my properties flat out
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Speaker 1: because every big check I ever made, I put it
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Speaker 1: back into my properties of my real estate. And I
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Speaker 1: just think, you know, you should own something, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You should have something, because even if
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Speaker 1: you do have a bunch of cash in the bank,
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Speaker 1: anything can happen. I mean, one time I had got
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Speaker 1: into some legal things and I want to go open
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Speaker 1: my safe deposit box and they wouldn't let me open
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Speaker 1: my safe deposit box, you know what I mean, because
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Speaker 1: out of lawsuit, and that was real to I'm like, damn,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you can freeze my safe
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Speaker 1: deposit box in the bank, and you know, they just
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Speaker 1: go to let you know that. You know, at the
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Speaker 1: end of the day, it's just like you know, we
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Speaker 1: as a coach, we get a lot of paper man,
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Speaker 1: and that's my position in this game. It's just like
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Speaker 1: a lot of these young cats, and I commend them
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Speaker 1: for doing what they're doing, but it's just like, you
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Speaker 1: gotta set yourself up for fifteen, twenty years, thirty years
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Speaker 1: in this game. But you can do other things besides,
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Speaker 1: you know, just run around the world and pick up bags,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Because it wasn't all said
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Speaker 1: to done. You won't to sit back, you know, and
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Speaker 1: at a certain age and like live life and stretch free.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what I'm on. I want to go
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Speaker 1: back to you and Drama. What was what was the
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Speaker 1: beef over? And how did y'all fix it? Well? Wow,
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Speaker 1: it got real, bro, it got really real. Like to
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Speaker 1: the point the beef was over, Dram had somebody that
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Speaker 1: was managing him, and I don't know what I think
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Speaker 1: he was. It might have been from New York, but
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Speaker 1: he was trying to be an artist too, and he
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Speaker 1: kind of got into Drama and them ere about a
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Speaker 1: lot of things and just started to build this toxic
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Speaker 1: and toxic environment. Um of you know, he said, she said,
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Speaker 1: And I think Drama, you know, decided he had to
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Speaker 1: go with them because I think at the time home
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Speaker 1: he might have been Nick Muscle or something like that.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but he was like told to be
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Speaker 1: the g and something happened at the club. I can't
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Speaker 1: really say, you know what I'm saying, but yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: it got it got really bad over time, and I
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Speaker 1: think it was for me. You know, I came to
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Speaker 1: the point in my life where I just kind of
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Speaker 1: like start healing myself, you know what I'm saying, because
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Speaker 1: I had a lot of trauma and things, so, you know,
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Speaker 1: and I just started work on myself. And I think
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Speaker 1: Dramdon was doing the same thing because I saw he
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Speaker 1: started losing weight working out, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: And it just like over time, we just kind of
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Speaker 1: came back together when the guy got out of here,
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Speaker 1: out of their business, and we just started talking here
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Speaker 1: and there. And I think it really was Don Cannon,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like Don Cannon because he
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Speaker 1: was always like they. But it was crazy because when
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Speaker 1: it happened me at Don was cool and Don was like, yo,
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Speaker 1: Dram need to you know what I mean. So we
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Speaker 1: figured it out, but it came back full circle, man,
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Speaker 1: because just like even when we did that B Side
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Speaker 1: concert and I was just like going through all the
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Speaker 1: records and all the things we did brought back so
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Speaker 1: many memories, man, because it's like, damn, but we really
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Speaker 1: been through so you know what I'm saying, and it
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Speaker 1: just brought everything back full circle. So I just kind
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Speaker 1: of feel like we both just grew, you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. It changed all surrounding because I had people
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Speaker 1: around me too, you know what I'm saying. It was, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it was putting stuff from my you know, they won't
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Speaker 1: go to the the war. We're going to war. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: then we're going to war with TJ Drama, mister traffic
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Speaker 1: died right, Okay, cool, let's do it. I remember back
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Speaker 1: then when I was as serious and m t I
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Speaker 1: and Drama was on my show, and so t I
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Speaker 1: was like, Drama, tell you ain't got no beef with Jeez. Yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be shout out to the boy Jeez. And
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Speaker 1: we would play that drop all the time and that
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Speaker 1: was bad. Stop playing that here, Yeah, it was bad.
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Speaker 1: I used to show up at shows the tip of
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Speaker 1: b there. You know, you Drama be in the room.
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Speaker 1: With Tip and I'd be like, yo, wait yeah you
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Speaker 1: know I mean Tip Yo. It was crazy. But I
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Speaker 1: love drama, you know what I'm saying, And I'm I'm
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Speaker 1: truly appreciative of you know, just the history we got
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Speaker 1: and in the relationship that we built because you just
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Speaker 1: feel good to see, you know, your your partners winning
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Speaker 1: like you winning and you can have those conversations because
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Speaker 1: you're both thriving too. Yeah, I think that makes it
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Speaker 1: easier too, win and life's just still going great. You
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Speaker 1: don't need him, he don't need necessarily, but you bring
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Speaker 1: something for each other, like to come back together and
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Speaker 1: create line. No, it was. It was dope. It was
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Speaker 1: a whole dope process. Even making the project. It just
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Speaker 1: really felt, like I said, like like therapeutic. It was
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Speaker 1: just like man like this is what we do. And
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Speaker 1: they gave me the free range to talk and say
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Speaker 1: what I really felt, you know what I'm saying. As
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Speaker 1: far as like the music, I don't have to dumb
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Speaker 1: it down, don't. I don't have to like try to
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Speaker 1: be clean, you know what I mean, Like I don't
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Speaker 1: got to try to make a certain type of song.
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Speaker 1: It's just like this is how I feel. You know
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Speaker 1: big Snow, that's it. Yeah. I was gonna add like,
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Speaker 1: you know, Michael Jackson Jeezy Drama Jones, and you know
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Speaker 1: they called me that for real in real life. Michael Jackson.
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Speaker 1: Jesus Yo. I swear to God, who is they for
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Speaker 1: a lot of deal Florida? Okay? Oh God? Because I
9:49
Speaker 1: used to be down there hustling when I was young. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I used to call me blining because I used to
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Speaker 1: come down there, you know, from Georgia when I was young.
9:55
Speaker 1: I said the Lexus and the Rolexus on that that's
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Speaker 1: what they knew me by. And then I started doing
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Speaker 1: music because there was some other cats down there that
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Speaker 1: I was hustling with that was doing music. They would
10:04
Speaker 1: called sop sounds a profit, and I was kind of
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Speaker 1: mocking myself after what they was doing. I went a
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Speaker 1: bought my studio and George or whatever, and then it worked,
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Speaker 1: so they one of my partners, it was an sop.
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Speaker 1: They went to prison and he got out like eight
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Speaker 1: years later whatever. But I was still going back and
10:18
Speaker 1: forth down there. But I'm big now, just after trap
10:21
Speaker 1: to die after, and I'll go to the hood and
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Speaker 1: I just pull up in the hood and be then
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Speaker 1: like like regularly, you know what I mean on Park
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Speaker 1: Rate where everybody know me at and everybody come out
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Speaker 1: here like Michael Jackson Jesus and I'm like, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: one thing, one thing with dance with them diamonds, baby,
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Speaker 1: I would, you know. But but it did something to me,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I would be down
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Speaker 1: there and then people would just show up and they'd
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Speaker 1: be like Michael Jackson, and it's a real thing. I
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Speaker 1: remember walking through um walking in a lot of deal
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Speaker 1: with some of my people and it was like, yo,
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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson and they're like, what the hell are they saying? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Drama Jones, Yeah, before a lot of that. I love
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Speaker 1: the record of screet Cred too. Yeah. And you say,
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Speaker 1: you know, they lost your scree crab. They say you
11:10
Speaker 1: lost your screek cred. So what man? And I'm glad
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Speaker 1: that somebody like you who's glorified the screets for so long,
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Speaker 1: you know, you've gotten to the age where you like,
11:17
Speaker 1: you know what screedt creb not important? Like you remember
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Speaker 1: the first time you realize that you can't get that realization?
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Speaker 1: Oh man, I really think that when you start walking
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Speaker 1: in those rooms and you're trying to do business. Nobody
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Speaker 1: really care about what you've done on the streets, you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And then as a man, you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you shouldn't care about because what
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Speaker 1: people think about me ain't none of my spiritual business,
11:41
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like it's just not But
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Speaker 1: for me, it's just like I don't need validation about
11:47
Speaker 1: what you consider to be real for me to be
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Speaker 1: a real man. Let's take the rap and the artists
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Speaker 1: and everything out of that and a lot of the
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Speaker 1: things I did because I was trying to get validation.
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Speaker 1: I want people to know that I'm about my issue.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this and that. And the last time
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Speaker 1: I got locked up in um La, when the incident
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Speaker 1: happened in U in the bay, like that's when I
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Speaker 1: was rid of, like, man, you got the world like you,
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Speaker 1: you're successful, You on tour, you're doing you know, thirty
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Speaker 1: thirty thousand people at night, and you in jail for
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Speaker 1: what you know what I mean. I remember everybody calling
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Speaker 1: like yeah, man, woo, like you know, like it's a
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Speaker 1: real thing, and I'm seeing it going like about to
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Speaker 1: throw my whole career away because I'm trying to live
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Speaker 1: by a stereotype of the cold, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: And and and if I do go to prison, ain't
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Speaker 1: none of the people finishing me no money? They ain't
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Speaker 1: for the right meeting, ain't look for my kids. Come on,
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Speaker 1: I watched it. It's funny and Freddie gives. He took
12:45
Speaker 1: accountability for the issues that you guys had, and y'all
12:49
Speaker 1: actually ran into each other. What was that like for you?
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Speaker 1: I mean, it was the way I look at it, like,
12:56
Speaker 1: you know, if I got an issue or I feel
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Speaker 1: away about something, I'm gonna feel it, you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Not even the emotional part. But when I
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Speaker 1: seen him, it was just like it was love because
13:06
Speaker 1: I never really had a problem with kids. You always
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Speaker 1: said that. Yeah. I always told him, bro, like you're
13:11
Speaker 1: gonna be big. You know what I'm saying, minus me,
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I don't want to hold
13:15
Speaker 1: you back, but I just think it at times when
13:17
Speaker 1: we want the instant gratification, we don't understand like this
13:21
Speaker 1: thing takes time, you know, for you to be great
13:23
Speaker 1: and you to come into your own. So when I
13:25
Speaker 1: saw him, it was just more like, you know, I'm
13:27
Speaker 1: glad to see you move when I'm glad to see
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Speaker 1: you coming into your own you know, I'm hearing the music,
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Speaker 1: I'm seeing what you're doing. That's what's up. I told like,
13:33
Speaker 1: I'm like I told you, and we just dapped it
13:36
Speaker 1: up and you know, chopped it up for men exchange numbers,
13:39
Speaker 1: and it was love and its just like when you
13:41
Speaker 1: really go back and look at it, you know that
13:43
Speaker 1: process had to happen. But I just think, you know,
13:47
Speaker 1: you know, like I said before, just like when you
13:49
Speaker 1: have trauma and you're coming from situations and you really
13:52
Speaker 1: don't know how to communicate, you know, it's always gonna
13:55
Speaker 1: be that when it comes to what expectations are, you
13:59
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I just feel like, you know,
14:01
Speaker 1: a lot of the incidents I ever had in music
14:05
Speaker 1: or in business is because there was poor communication. And
14:09
Speaker 1: I feel like if we would have hopped on the
14:10
Speaker 1: phone and chopped it up way earlier, he told me
14:12
Speaker 1: how he felt, I told him how I felt, and
14:15
Speaker 1: we can agree to disagree and be like, all right, cool,
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Speaker 1: well we can still get money and still do music
14:20
Speaker 1: and keep this to ourselves. You know. I felt like
14:24
Speaker 1: that would have been the way. But I think we
14:25
Speaker 1: both kind of walked away from this like he's a
14:28
Speaker 1: better artist person and I have a better understanding for
14:32
Speaker 1: you know, dealing with artists and people now, just like
14:35
Speaker 1: you gotta let people have a room to feel how
14:38
Speaker 1: they feel. Yeah, it always seemed like he took it personal,
14:40
Speaker 1: but for you, it was just all business because all
14:42
Speaker 1: you ever said was Freddie was just upset because he
14:44
Speaker 1: didn't pop with you. He didn't pop off right, And
14:46
Speaker 1: the thing was everything ain't the right mix though, Bro,
14:49
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like every everything, you know,
14:52
Speaker 1: everything don't just go together, so at sometimes you gotta
14:55
Speaker 1: try something different. So I didn't feel no way about that.
14:58
Speaker 1: I wanted him to be successful, you know what I'm saying.
15:01
Speaker 1: It just like that didn't work. But the YGD thing did,
15:03
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's just how it works.
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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I just feel
15:07
Speaker 1: like that was what was supposed to happen for him,
15:09
Speaker 1: and he sees that now, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: But I hope that he understands going forward because I
15:15
Speaker 1: had to happen with me with NAS when the hip
15:17
Speaker 1: hop was dead thing. You know what I'm saying. I
15:19
Speaker 1: flipped out because I thought he talking about me. I'm like,
15:21
Speaker 1: hold up, man, you know because I'm winning. Now you're
15:22
Speaker 1: talking about hip hop dead. It's a whole conversation. So
15:26
Speaker 1: when I said what I said on the radio, and
15:28
Speaker 1: you know, I was spazzing and flipping out, you know
15:31
Speaker 1: what I'm saying because I could have called him. You know,
15:34
Speaker 1: he called me a king. I can understand your frustration.
15:39
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you, you you know, my perspective. And
15:42
Speaker 1: when he explained it to me calm and cool and collective,
15:45
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn right. So that just made me think.
15:48
Speaker 1: So when Gibbs called me with the I'm just like, bro,
15:52
Speaker 1: we just gotta sit down and get in the same
15:54
Speaker 1: room so we can figure this out. That was my thing.
15:56
Speaker 1: So that's why I never took it personal. Right. Also,
15:59
Speaker 1: longer back to the screen create writer, because you said
16:01
Speaker 1: something about, you know, the stereotypical things that they think
16:04
Speaker 1: a man should be. I find that everything that they
16:07
Speaker 1: tell us they want us to do to be real,
16:10
Speaker 1: always it's something criminal. You gotta do something criminal, you
16:14
Speaker 1: gotta die, Yeah, joy to do ten years. Don't tell
16:17
Speaker 1: nobody like all that. I mean, look, man to each
16:21
Speaker 1: his own. I mean, I just always believe in integrity,
16:24
Speaker 1: values and morals. I have that, you know, and I
16:26
Speaker 1: can't speak for another man. They ain't my place. But
16:29
Speaker 1: it's just like I'd be damned if I did all
16:31
Speaker 1: this to get out of that to do that again,
16:35
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, It just doesn't make sense
16:37
Speaker 1: to me. It's just almost like, you know, becoming a millionaire,
16:40
Speaker 1: living beyond your wildest dreams and just going to spend
16:42
Speaker 1: and give all your money away to be back in
16:44
Speaker 1: that same position. It doesn't It just doesn't make logical sense.
16:47
Speaker 1: You're doing this to get out of your environment, to
16:51
Speaker 1: put people on, and then you're getting caught up in
16:53
Speaker 1: the stereotype of but I still gotta be a real one.
16:56
Speaker 1: And then you go out here and you put yourself
16:58
Speaker 1: in prison and ain't nobody looking out for you. You know,
17:01
Speaker 1: you go out here and you get killed, and ain't
17:03
Speaker 1: nobody taking killed your kids? You know what I'm saying.
17:05
Speaker 1: And everybody I've seen try to keep it really what happened?
17:08
Speaker 1: What happened to Dolf? We're having a nipping to bank roll,
17:14
Speaker 1: look glamm to doeb you know, look what happened to
17:16
Speaker 1: B and D. You know what I'm saying, it's all
17:19
Speaker 1: because of that. I'm gonna be real with the You
17:22
Speaker 1: gotta be real with yourself, man, you know what I mean.
17:25
Speaker 1: That's one thing about it. But I ain't living for
17:26
Speaker 1: nobody but me and mind. You know what I'm saying,
17:28
Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, that's all that matter.
17:31
Speaker 1: You know, you're in your deathbar. You're sick right now.
17:32
Speaker 1: The people that really rock with you and love you,
17:34
Speaker 1: they're gonna be there. Bro. Do you feel like you've
17:36
Speaker 1: got a responsibility being that, you know, you were the
17:39
Speaker 1: mouthpiece for the screets for so long, you know, probably
17:42
Speaker 1: encourage a lot of brothers to do the wrong thing.
17:44
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you have an obligation that, you know,
17:46
Speaker 1: encouraging me to do the right thing? Now? Um? Well,
17:51
Speaker 1: I always felt like what I was doing was right
17:54
Speaker 1: because I was always talking about motivating the thugs. I
18:00
Speaker 1: told him when I came in the game that I
18:01
Speaker 1: was corporate thugging. That's what I'm doing. You see it,
18:04
Speaker 1: corporate getting You see it the Coney Act, the water
18:08
Speaker 1: shout out, the nah shout out. That defines a few,
18:10
Speaker 1: but I think that my position in this you know,
18:14
Speaker 1: people always ask me what your position was the run
18:16
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore. My position in this game is just to
18:19
Speaker 1: continue to lead by example because I'm one of the
18:23
Speaker 1: very few that did what I said and everybody knows that,
18:26
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Everybody knows that I put
18:28
Speaker 1: in my work, but I continue to evolve without having
18:33
Speaker 1: to have any type of validation. So for me, it's
18:37
Speaker 1: just like the more that I can evolve and grow
18:39
Speaker 1: and show people like you can do this and still
18:43
Speaker 1: be who you are, that's that's my responsibility because it's
18:47
Speaker 1: almost like, well, she gonna go. If you're coming from
18:49
Speaker 1: the street and you're wrapping, you're supposed to just stay there,
18:52
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Ten fifteen years in it,
18:53
Speaker 1: you're still thugging like so it's almost like, nah, you
18:57
Speaker 1: go out. You can own a company, you can by business,
19:00
Speaker 1: you can buy real estate, and you can still look
19:02
Speaker 1: like this. You know what I'm saying. You don't got
19:04
Speaker 1: to change up who you are just to do what
19:06
Speaker 1: you do. So I feel like that's more so my
19:08
Speaker 1: responsibility to anything, because it's almost like I opened the
19:13
Speaker 1: door for them. I was missed the trapper die. I
19:15
Speaker 1: didn't close the door when I came in. I didn't
19:17
Speaker 1: lock the door. Most of these casts that you see
19:19
Speaker 1: are really coming from the streets. But if you ask
19:21
Speaker 1: them who they saw do it first, it would have
19:23
Speaker 1: to be me. Who else came from where I came from?
19:25
Speaker 1: That you saw it in real time and got to
19:27
Speaker 1: where they at. So at the end of the day,
19:29
Speaker 1: I do have a responsibility to keep you know. That's
19:32
Speaker 1: why you don't see my name in no bullshit. I'm
19:35
Speaker 1: grown as hell, ain't about I ain't about to be
19:37
Speaker 1: in no blog. I ain't about to be you know
19:39
Speaker 1: what I mean. I ain't about to be in the
19:40
Speaker 1: wrong spots. Ain't been because that's I'm a man. First.
19:44
Speaker 1: The snowball, the snowball, Yeah shot out there. Everybody raised
19:47
Speaker 1: almost a half a million dollars for any city, use,
19:49
Speaker 1: any city kids. And then not even that. I just
19:52
Speaker 1: really wanted to bring, you know, my relationships in the
19:56
Speaker 1: room and put them all together so people can rub
20:00
Speaker 1: bowls and make contacts and network because I know a
20:03
Speaker 1: lot of people, you know what I'm saying. I always
20:05
Speaker 1: was taught that you got no different types of people.
20:08
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, so some of my homies
20:10
Speaker 1: who who who who couldn't be in those type of rooms,
20:14
Speaker 1: they had an opportunity to do that. Some of those
20:17
Speaker 1: people that I know that a millionaires, bigionare's that don't
20:20
Speaker 1: understand the culture get a chance to see it now
20:22
Speaker 1: and go like wow, I never know you guys were
20:23
Speaker 1: doing this. My banker friends was talking to my you know,
20:27
Speaker 1: to my industry partners about loans and different things, and
20:32
Speaker 1: everybody wanted to come back next year and do it bigger.
20:34
Speaker 1: But you know, that's that's what it's about, you know,
20:36
Speaker 1: putting everybody together, you know what I'm saying, and continuing
20:40
Speaker 1: to grow. I love all the record King's Crown too. Yeah,
20:43
Speaker 1: that's a real one. And you said one line that
20:45
Speaker 1: stood out. You said just last week you called Shake
20:47
Speaker 1: twice yea in reference to Chris Lide's I was like that,
20:50
Speaker 1: after all these years, I still have to hit you
20:52
Speaker 1: that he's not Yeah, I mean yeah, man, but like
20:55
Speaker 1: Shake save my life, bro, you know what I'm saying.
20:58
Speaker 1: He made me feel like I could do anything, and
21:01
Speaker 1: I just kind of feel like he saved my life
21:07
Speaker 1: and I did everything but save him, and that bothers
21:12
Speaker 1: me but you didn't know what was going on with him.
21:14
Speaker 1: I didn't, man, But it just like how you know,
21:17
Speaker 1: you hear about suicide and things like that in the world,
21:23
Speaker 1: but then you gotta really think about when you know
21:26
Speaker 1: somebody was so much life, so must to live for
21:29
Speaker 1: lit up any room, was always happy, always popping his
21:32
Speaker 1: ship like you know how shape was and you know,
21:37
Speaker 1: like bro he was, he was, he was, he had
21:40
Speaker 1: an aura around him. You know what I'm saying. You
21:42
Speaker 1: could be down shape, coming right, a man, get it together,
21:45
Speaker 1: you know, Oakland, Oakland kids right right, and and I
21:52
Speaker 1: just I couldn't find him that, you know, I don't
21:54
Speaker 1: think a lot of people know. Man. I laid in
21:55
Speaker 1: the bed almost two weeks when when when when that
21:58
Speaker 1: happened to Shape, I couldn't. I just couldn't believe it.
22:01
Speaker 1: And I kind of felt like he left me alone.
22:03
Speaker 1: But I had to really snap out of it, you
22:05
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, damn, I want to make
22:06
Speaker 1: him proud. And you know a lot of Dad had
22:10
Speaker 1: to do it a lot with me and Ross figuring
22:12
Speaker 1: out how differences because I know if he was here,
22:14
Speaker 1: he wouldn't want that. So I had to you know, man,
22:17
Speaker 1: up there like, Okay, I was wrong here, you know
22:19
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I took with you know what I mean,
22:21
Speaker 1: So we had to really sit down. But I was
22:23
Speaker 1: more about like, damn, like broodn't want to see us
22:25
Speaker 1: out here going back because he signed me and Ross,
22:28
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And man, sometimes I just
22:31
Speaker 1: but then that's why every project I ever done, I
22:34
Speaker 1: give him executive producers of credit on every product project
22:37
Speaker 1: got done every since he passed because he he always
22:39
Speaker 1: told me, if you got the club, the streets and radio,
22:43
Speaker 1: you gotta hit And that's always been my former And
22:47
Speaker 1: you know, he also made me feel, you know, like
22:50
Speaker 1: a superstar when I wasn't there yet. And I always
22:53
Speaker 1: keep that part with me, man. But you know, sometimes
22:56
Speaker 1: I do find myself and like saying things to him
22:59
Speaker 1: or if I making a humph me and I'd be like, boy,
23:01
Speaker 1: you see what's going on right? You know that type
23:03
Speaker 1: of thing. So yeah, he's He's a big, big part
23:06
Speaker 1: of my life. Bro When you think about wanting to
23:08
Speaker 1: call him, what the things that are on your mind?
23:11
Speaker 1: Well to how I should like because shake with somebody,
23:14
Speaker 1: I can like sit down and like, you know, talk
23:17
Speaker 1: about how I'm moving, you know, what I'm saying and
23:20
Speaker 1: what I'm doing right or what I'm doing wrong as
23:23
Speaker 1: far as like morally for me, because he used to
23:26
Speaker 1: tell him. We used to talk and it might be
23:28
Speaker 1: things that I want to do and he'd be like, man,
23:30
Speaker 1: ain't wi you know what I mean, Like I have
23:31
Speaker 1: to bring myself back. But a lot of it is
23:35
Speaker 1: Look why I'm at now, Look what I'm doing. You know,
23:37
Speaker 1: Look how I'm living life. Like you know, I'm happy,
23:40
Speaker 1: I'm peaceful, hims in like I'm not even round here
23:42
Speaker 1: like you know how to go. I come in here
23:44
Speaker 1: deep like like like what's my man? That like baby,
23:51
Speaker 1: But it ain't that. It just loves man. It's just
23:54
Speaker 1: like and I just know he proud of me, you know,
23:56
Speaker 1: And I just want to you know how much you
23:59
Speaker 1: know it means meant to me that he was in
24:01
Speaker 1: my corner and you said he signed you and Ross.
24:03
Speaker 1: How come he don't get more credit for that? Because
24:04
Speaker 1: I always feel like Jay and La read get that credit.
24:08
Speaker 1: I man, you know how that go? Um they are
24:10
Speaker 1: the top of the chain. But like but like they
24:15
Speaker 1: would say that Kevin lows in La re signed me,
24:18
Speaker 1: but shake Shakier was the one who told La, I'm
24:22
Speaker 1: in the streets every day, like Jeezy, the real deal.
24:25
Speaker 1: And then when he went in he called me, He's like,
24:28
Speaker 1: I got this guy from Miami. I want you to
24:29
Speaker 1: meet him and then I'll be damn p It was
24:32
Speaker 1: Rick Ross. You know what I'm saying. He signed Rick
24:34
Speaker 1: Ross up there, and there's a couple more people that
24:36
Speaker 1: he signed, but he, you know, he he was very
24:38
Speaker 1: influential when it came to La read because that was
24:42
Speaker 1: LA's guy. So he kind of listened to what Shake
24:44
Speaker 1: had it because he wasn't in the streets La, but
24:46
Speaker 1: Shake was so when the whole come into picture, because
24:49
Speaker 1: you know, oh Man Hove came into picture of Hove
24:53
Speaker 1: came in the picture, Kevin Lyles signed me, kevins La
24:58
Speaker 1: Re signed me, and then Kevin Lyles called me two
25:02
Speaker 1: weeks later and said, I just want to let you
25:06
Speaker 1: know I'm going I'm not gonna beat there the more
25:08
Speaker 1: I'm going to Atlantic And I was like, oh d
25:11
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Damn yeah. Two weeks so now I
25:14
Speaker 1: was sitting at the barber soe I never forget in
25:15
Speaker 1: the hood. I was like, damn, because you know, Kevin
25:18
Speaker 1: Lyles was the guy, right, and there's like a new
25:21
Speaker 1: president coming in. I never forget. I was walking into
25:24
Speaker 1: Death Gym maybe about a month later, and there's like
25:26
Speaker 1: a little little alleyway in front of it, but you're
25:30
Speaker 1: not supposed to drive in the alleyway. They haven't blocked
25:32
Speaker 1: off like with like uh these metal things. And I
25:35
Speaker 1: remember there was a may back right in front of them,
25:38
Speaker 1: in front of the building where you're not supposed to park.
25:41
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting at the Death Gym kind of giving
25:43
Speaker 1: them my ID so I can go upstairs. And I
25:46
Speaker 1: see the door open and I look back and I,
25:48
Speaker 1: you know, continue to do what I do, and then
25:50
Speaker 1: I just hear somebody say yo jeezy, and I look back.
25:54
Speaker 1: It was whole getting out of may back. He's like,
25:58
Speaker 1: come on, just come up with me. We'll go upstairs. Yeah,
26:00
Speaker 1: you know, I'm the new president. Right. It's like, whatever
26:02
Speaker 1: you need, I got you. I was like, Damn, I
26:06
Speaker 1: love Kevin allows the god damn, you know. And the
26:09
Speaker 1: first day I'm thinking to my mind, like I gotta
26:10
Speaker 1: get a record out of the whole. I gotta figure
26:13
Speaker 1: this out right immediately. That was like my first thought,
26:16
Speaker 1: like being with the record with jay Z but now
26:18
Speaker 1: and I remember reading that Jay said he told you
26:21
Speaker 1: that Thub Motivation was a classic. Yeah, Um, yeah he did.
26:27
Speaker 1: And then I just remember I didn't because I had
26:32
Speaker 1: a lot of survivors remorse then, so I really didn't, like,
26:36
Speaker 1: you know, anything anybody said to me. I just really
26:39
Speaker 1: didn't take it for what it was because I was
26:41
Speaker 1: still dealing with my demons trying to figure things out.
26:44
Speaker 1: But when he called me when I dropped USDA and
26:46
Speaker 1: he was like, you're certified CEO now, like you you've
26:51
Speaker 1: done something outside of yourself that was successful. I took
26:53
Speaker 1: that to heart because it was like USDA did a
26:56
Speaker 1: half a million records and then like my homeboys, you
26:59
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, full of blood. Yeah, So when
27:01
Speaker 1: I'm like my partners, you know what I'm saying, it
27:03
Speaker 1: still did it half of me and records and I
27:05
Speaker 1: was like, damn. So that really resonated with me. I
27:07
Speaker 1: think the Motivation one on one being a classic to
27:11
Speaker 1: me really resonated. Um when I got to The Recession,
27:17
Speaker 1: the album The Recession, that's the third one, yeah, because
27:21
Speaker 1: before that I was dealing with what I had going
27:25
Speaker 1: on mentally and when I woke up one day, I
27:28
Speaker 1: was just like, you know what, I ain't I ain't
27:30
Speaker 1: in prison. I'm still free. I'm successful. I'm gonna be
27:34
Speaker 1: a superstar. And that's when I just started. I started,
27:37
Speaker 1: you know, working on myself. Uh you know, eating right,
27:40
Speaker 1: going to the gym. You know what I'm saying. They
27:42
Speaker 1: went right right went from it went from all the
27:45
Speaker 1: gangsters being in the front row to ladies being in
27:47
Speaker 1: the front row. You know what I'm saying, doing panties
27:49
Speaker 1: and brawls like that. I ain't never going back, you
27:51
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And different, different vibes, and and
27:54
Speaker 1: and then I was able to be like damn like
27:57
Speaker 1: And then that's when I started getting back in my
27:59
Speaker 1: one on one bad and I would started doing the
28:01
Speaker 1: songs a lot. I'm like, Dan, these songs ain't going nowhere.
28:05
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, it was going nowhere because you know,
28:07
Speaker 1: you do your first album and you get about your
28:09
Speaker 1: third fourth album, you don't think that you know your
28:11
Speaker 1: first album is gonna be a significant because you got
28:15
Speaker 1: better songs in your mind. So I'm going back and
28:18
Speaker 1: I'm still doing trap with Diane. I'm still doing uh
28:21
Speaker 1: so Survive and uh go crazy crazy bottom of the
28:25
Speaker 1: man and I'm like, you ain't going nowhere, And I
28:27
Speaker 1: was like, in my mind, I was like Dan. But
28:29
Speaker 1: the crazy thing about it is, you know how we do.
28:31
Speaker 1: We don't give your props into way later on. You
28:35
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Uh, everybody act like he was
28:38
Speaker 1: regular when it came out. That ain't true. And I
28:40
Speaker 1: ain't gonna let you SHO didn't tell that lot. Now
28:42
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna say that there was nothing regular about
28:45
Speaker 1: the motivation. One on one, everybody knew what that was.
28:47
Speaker 1: But as far as but you gotta understand too, A
28:50
Speaker 1: lot of my time I was like in Atlanta, so
28:52
Speaker 1: I was around like my peers or people that I knew,
28:58
Speaker 1: but it felt like it was just I don't track
29:00
Speaker 1: to Atlanta for that moment, feel like everything that was
29:02
Speaker 1: happening in Atlanta Traffic Die, Thug Motivation was the soundtrack
29:05
Speaker 1: to it. Well, I think, yeah, Trappa die for sure.
29:08
Speaker 1: But that's the thing, you know, because I was making
29:11
Speaker 1: music based off what I was really doing. You know
29:14
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, The how is really living? Because I
29:17
Speaker 1: was under the impression that any day I can go
29:20
Speaker 1: to prison. You know what I'm saying I'm like waiting
29:23
Speaker 1: on it, you know what I mean. So I was
29:24
Speaker 1: just putting everything I had in the music, and it
29:27
Speaker 1: was what was actually going on at the time. And
29:30
Speaker 1: I think that's why I resonated, because I would say
29:32
Speaker 1: stuff that I did last night and somebody saw that.
29:35
Speaker 1: I seen him in Magic City doing this. I've seen
29:36
Speaker 1: him in traffic riding that, and I just think it
29:39
Speaker 1: really resonated. So it was like it was a soundtrack
29:41
Speaker 1: for sure. I wonder why they never, well, I didn't
29:44
Speaker 1: never use the lyrics against y'all. Man, I'm thank god
29:48
Speaker 1: they didn't. I but it just, you know, has to
30:05
Speaker 1: be somewhere. Oh man, But listen, B side, So it
30:09
Speaker 1: is that a whole tour that you're doing. I just
30:11
Speaker 1: I know you did Atlanta, You're doing Detroit. Yeah, going
30:13
Speaker 1: on with the B side concept. I mean, it's just
30:15
Speaker 1: something that I really really want to do because, like
30:17
Speaker 1: I said, when I went through all those directors with Drama, um,
30:20
Speaker 1: you know, we just got so many and this is
30:23
Speaker 1: before any albums. You know, we had to go almost
30:25
Speaker 1: through three hundred songs and these are songs I never
30:28
Speaker 1: get a chance to get because of the way, Uh
30:31
Speaker 1: you know I'm touring or doing shows, and it's just
30:35
Speaker 1: like a lot of them songs are my favorite, you know,
30:37
Speaker 1: like air Forces too and Teasy to snow Man all that,
30:40
Speaker 1: so I get a chance to do them. So it's
30:42
Speaker 1: like a breath of fresh air for me. So I
30:43
Speaker 1: know we're gonna we're gonna be in Detroit tonight um
30:46
Speaker 1: for b Side show. So that's gonna be lit um.
30:49
Speaker 1: And then I think we in Miami the next day
30:51
Speaker 1: and we're gonna keep it going. I think Philly just
30:53
Speaker 1: hit uh be more so. I mean, you know, I'm
30:55
Speaker 1: just gonna bounce around with it, but you know more
30:57
Speaker 1: pointed at that snowfall out right now. Man, it's really good. Man.
31:01
Speaker 1: I got to ask one more question. I got a
31:03
Speaker 1: bunch more. But a couple of times on the project,
31:05
Speaker 1: you talk about your cousin setting you up and you
31:08
Speaker 1: said you back in your Auntie house. But Auntie stealing
31:10
Speaker 1: from you? Right? Do you think Auntie stealing from you?
31:13
Speaker 1: I had one that got me and not stealing. Oh
31:15
Speaker 1: not antiet okay, right man? Matter that she used to
31:20
Speaker 1: hustle with me. Yeah, yeah, it was getting money together.
31:23
Speaker 1: But I had other people that you might you know,
31:25
Speaker 1: my uncle's them stole my bonds before you know, you know,
31:27
Speaker 1: let me ask the cousin that you know hit me
31:29
Speaker 1: up for Nina or two. You know what I mean
31:30
Speaker 1: to add it, ask them, you know, us to you know,
31:33
Speaker 1: take a little bit out of there and keep it
31:35
Speaker 1: for themselves and whatever. Um. And when I say my
31:38
Speaker 1: cousin said I'm my cousin, like that, that actually really happened,
31:40
Speaker 1: you know, shout out to my cousin, gold Mouth. A
31:42
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know, Like, God, Mom did ten years.
31:45
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He did ten years in
31:46
Speaker 1: the fairs. And he's not He wasn't even a criminal.
31:49
Speaker 1: He was just my cousin. And he would do it,
31:51
Speaker 1: you know, anything for me and with me. And you know,
31:54
Speaker 1: one of our cousins whom supposed to be our big cousin.
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Speaker 1: Then we looked up to Um. You know, we was
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Speaker 1: kind of you know, you know whatever with Um was
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Speaker 1: the only one that knew what was going on. And
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Speaker 1: and and and he, you know, he did unthinkable. And
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Speaker 1: you know, I never forget gold Male told me like
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Speaker 1: because like I was one car next to you and
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Speaker 1: I could see you in the driver's seat, and he
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Speaker 1: said all I had would have had to do. It's
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Speaker 1: been like yeah, and he said, I just remember you
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Speaker 1: riding off and I rolled off and um, this is
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Speaker 1: a cousin that wasn't a criminal and he had to
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Speaker 1: go do you know ten years and you know it
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Speaker 1: was just like, you know, I couldn't believe that somebody
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Speaker 1: who's supposed to love us and be our big you know,
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Speaker 1: like big homie, would would do that. But it also
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Speaker 1: taught me about how life is and when you deal
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Speaker 1: with people, man, if it's and that's why I say,
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Speaker 1: just live for yourself. Don't live for these people, man,
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Speaker 1: because if it's you with them, it's always it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be you. They're gonna throw you under the bus. They
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Speaker 1: don't care, you know what I'm saying. So you know,
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Speaker 1: shout out to gold Mit, because if you want gold Mop,
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Speaker 1: there would be no young Jeezy big Snow Mister seventeen five,
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Speaker 1: you know, because it wouldn't never happened. You know, I
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Speaker 1: probably did them ten and and still being there, you know,
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Speaker 1: like still been in the streets. So shout out them. Yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: I got a million more questions, man, but you know,
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Speaker 1: Snow fall out right now, fall out right now shout
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Speaker 1: out to the breakfast club. Um, you know, y'all know
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Speaker 1: what it is, man, get it, get it anywhere. Music
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Speaker 1: is that absolutely and let you boy, you see me
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Speaker 1: in the street. You know what it is, Big snow
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Speaker 1: y'all