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INTERVIEW: Lil Jon Talks New Book 'I Only Shout So You Can Hear Me', Fatherhood, Grief & Healing, Touring With Pitbull + more · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Hold up.
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  Speaker 2: Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up.
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  Speaker 3: The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: You all finished or you all done? Morning, everybody.
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  Speaker 4: It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are
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  Speaker 4: The Breakfast Club. Lorne LaRose is here as well. We
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  Speaker 4: got a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, indeed.
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  Speaker 2: His book is out right now, ladies and gentlemen, Lil Jon. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: I'm back. I'm back.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking about the book. That's right.
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  Speaker 5: You're the type of person I always wanted to sit
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  Speaker 5: down and have a conversation with.
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  Speaker 3: We had the privilege of doing that. I think last year.
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  Speaker 2: Last year, yep.
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  Speaker 5: And it's like, I always wanted to know more about
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  Speaker 5: Lil Jon, so I felt I got to know more
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  Speaker 5: about you then.
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  Speaker 3: But reading the book, Lord have mercy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been a pretty private individual my whole career.
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  Speaker 2: Kept all my family stuff out of the public eye
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  Speaker 2: and been quiet, period. And, you know, my team came
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  Speaker 2: to me, shout out to Ma and Rob Mack, and
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  Speaker 2: they were like, yo, we need to, it's time to
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  Speaker 2: tell your story. It's time. to tell everything about you
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  Speaker 2: that people don't know. You're so intelligent and people don't
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  Speaker 2: know you produced all these songs, your history, where you
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  Speaker 2: come from, how you became who you came, who you
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  Speaker 2: turned into, and we should tell your story. And I
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  Speaker 2: was like, all right, let's see. Let's start working on it.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's when we start on this journey of
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  Speaker 2: writing a book. And shout out to Paul Cantor, my co-writer,
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy because my son read his book that he
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  Speaker 2: did on, what was his name? Who did he do
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  Speaker 2: the book on? Mac Miller. He wrote Mac Miller's book.
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  Speaker 2: And my son told me he read Mac Miller's book
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  Speaker 2: and it was really good. So it was ironic that
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  Speaker 2: when Tamar brought Paul's name to me, I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: I remember my son saying his book was good. So
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was a good omen and Yeah, me
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  Speaker 2: and Paul started working on the book.
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  Speaker 3: The thing I.
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  Speaker 5: Love the most about the book, I loved all.
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  Speaker 3: Your childhood stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Because it put so much of everything else in context.
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  Speaker 5: You know, when you became an adult in the industry,
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  Speaker 5: like even how you might have reacted to stuff, it
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  Speaker 5: put everything in context. But your childhood stuff was the
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  Speaker 5: most intriguing part to me. Did you learn new things
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  Speaker 5: about yourself?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I learned my dad wasn't my dad.
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  Speaker 3: That was crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I mean, when you write a book about
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  Speaker 2: yourself and your life, it's like... you reflect on a
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  Speaker 2: lot of things and then yeah, you're going to find
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  Speaker 2: out new things about yourself. And, and even like in therapy,
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  Speaker 2: while I was writing a book, I'm going through experiences
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  Speaker 2: and especially in EMDR, I was able to tap into
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  Speaker 2: when certain traumas happened to me. Like I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I remember this one day I was in therapy and
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  Speaker 2: I tapped into the exact moment something happened. And it,
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  Speaker 2: it made me understand myself more as an adult today.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I know you preach about therapy. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to keep pushing black men, go to therapy, man. Don't
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  Speaker 2: just hold your emotions and your feelings in. Go talk
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  Speaker 2: to somebody professional about it. And a lot of us
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  Speaker 2: men in general are holding on to a lot of trauma.
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  Speaker 2: Get EMDR therapy. It taps into it and goes way back. But, yes,
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  Speaker 2: writing this book, I had to reflect on a lot
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  Speaker 2: of things. I learned a lot of things about myself.
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  Speaker 2: I learned a lot of things about my family because
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  Speaker 2: I would go talk to my aunts. you know, and,
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  Speaker 2: and then just people that have been in my life
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  Speaker 2: for a long time, stuff I forgot, you know, they
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  Speaker 2: were like, yo, no, this happened and this happened. And
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  Speaker 2: you're like, damn, I forgot about all that. Because for
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  Speaker 2: me also, I'm always in the future. I don't like
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  Speaker 2: to just dwell in the past. Some people are always like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I did this. I did that way back. But what
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  Speaker 2: have you done lately? So I'm always in the future
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  Speaker 2: and I don't like to think about it. And I
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  Speaker 2: had to go back and look at all of the
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  Speaker 2: stuff I've done. I was like, I've had a really
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  Speaker 2: accomplished career in life. I've been truly blessed.
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  Speaker 5: Hold on, when it comes to your biological father, how
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  Speaker 5: does learning something that significant about your identity as a
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  Speaker 5: grown man change the way you look at your entire life?
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  Speaker 2: It just flips your existence upside down. Everything you experienced,
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  Speaker 2: your cousins, all the family experiences you had, you realize...
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  Speaker 2: some of those people are not even your real family.
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  Speaker 2: That's not your blood. And now my brothers are not,
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  Speaker 2: are my half-brothers. They still going to be my brothers forever,
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  Speaker 2: but understanding and knowing they're my half-brothers, and then having
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  Speaker 2: all of these questions, and my mother's no longer here,
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  Speaker 2: my father's no longer here, my biological father's no longer here,
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  Speaker 2: so I can't talk to anybody. So all of this
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  Speaker 2: knocks you back, and you're playing with all these emotions
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  Speaker 2: and anger and all of this stuff is in your head. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, one day I talk about in the book,
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  Speaker 2: I just went on my balcony and I had a
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  Speaker 2: conversation with my mom and let it all out, everything
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  Speaker 2: I was feeling. And after that, I was more at
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  Speaker 2: peace and I came to acceptance that I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to get those answers. I'm not going to be able
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  Speaker 2: to have the real conversations with my mother in a
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  Speaker 2: physical form, but I could have that and express it
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  Speaker 2: and I could be at peace with it and I
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  Speaker 2: can move on with my life.
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  Speaker 5: In the book you said about how they died with
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  Speaker 5: secrets that you probably wanted to know. Do you feel
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  Speaker 5: like you were robbed of something by not knowing the
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  Speaker 5: truth about who your father was earlier? Or do you
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  Speaker 5: understand why your family kept that a secret?
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  Speaker 2: I kind of understand a little bit because my mom's
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  Speaker 2: sisters and her sisters are her best friends and they
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  Speaker 2: didn't know. So if her own sisters didn't know, I
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  Speaker 2: looked at it like she was protecting me and my brothers.
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  Speaker 2: You know, sometimes parents keep those secrets so You don't
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  Speaker 2: have to deal with all of that emotion or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: It could destroy the relationship also. So I think she
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  Speaker 2: kept it to protect us. The more I reflect, she
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  Speaker 2: did it to protect me and my brothers.
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  Speaker 6: And even though you find out that that wasn't your
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  Speaker 6: biological father, I don't know how it changes your thinking
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  Speaker 6: or makes you think about he woke up every day
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  Speaker 6: still and chose you. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And chose to love you, which.
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  Speaker 2: Is such a commendable thing. I don't know if he knew.
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  Speaker 2: He might not even know.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even think about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Because when I went down, basically I did this
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  Speaker 2: in writing the book, a rumor came up, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and talked to my aunt about who my father was,
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  Speaker 2: that this guy, I remember this guy came up to
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  Speaker 2: me at my mom's funeral and said, I'm your biological father.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, nah, whatever. Because I'm mourning my mother. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not thinking about it. And so I pushed that off.
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  Speaker 2: And then later this kind of comes back up in
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  Speaker 2: talking to my aunt, reliving memories to write the book.
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  Speaker 2: And I just wanted to put that to bed. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, that's BS, you know. So I went
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  Speaker 2: and embarked on this DNA journey. And one of my cousins,
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  Speaker 2: my first cousins, his DNA was already in the system.
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  Speaker 2: So he shared his DNA with my DNA. person that
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  Speaker 2: was handling all my stuff and we were not one
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  Speaker 2: bit of a match wow so that already hit me
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  Speaker 2: and then they found matches so i have half sisters
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  Speaker 2: on my biological father's side and i think i have
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  Speaker 2: brother and i found out that he probably has other
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  Speaker 2: kids that don't know about him either I got some
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  Speaker 2: Latino cousins. You know what I mean? So it's really crazy.
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  Speaker 2: And that was a lot of emotional baggage that I
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  Speaker 2: had to deal with for a while facing all of
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  Speaker 2: these unanswered questions and just wondering, wanting to know why.
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  Speaker 2: And did my dad know or did he did not know?
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  Speaker 2: And then it's also gets into, I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: my biological father's favorite color is. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: his voice sounds like. I don't know what he like
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  Speaker 2: to do. And I'm never going to know that.
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  Speaker 3: Health issues.
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  Speaker 2: Medical history.
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  Speaker 3: Medical history, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I, his, well, my sisters have reached out
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  Speaker 2: through the DNA portal, but I have not been ready
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  Speaker 2: to have those conversations. It's already been heavy. That was heavy, heavy.
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  Speaker 2: And I just have to find time. And then all
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  Speaker 2: of the other stuff happened with my son and all
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  Speaker 2: of that. So I'm just not quite ready. But I
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  Speaker 2: will sit down with them and talk to them and
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  Speaker 2: just want to understand who he was.
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  Speaker 4: And I was going to ask, you know, even with
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  Speaker 4: your daughter, I know she's young, but when she gets older,
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  Speaker 4: are you planning to make sure you have those conversations?
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  Speaker 4: Because I got, you know, I got six kids. So
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  Speaker 4: I have conversations that my dad never had.
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  Speaker 3: Damn.
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Hart voice.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, I make sure I'm having those conversations now,
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  Speaker 4: things that they might not know about dad that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: my parents were kind of like a child plan to
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  Speaker 4: stay in the child's place.
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  Speaker 3: They don't really talk. Yeah. Um, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean the point where I am in my life now,
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  Speaker 2: I'm a, I'm an open book, literally no pun intended. And,
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  Speaker 2: I believe I have to share to help not just myself,
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  Speaker 2: but to help others that are dealing with similar situations.
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  Speaker 2: So 100 percent, I'm going to talk to my daughter
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  Speaker 2: about all of this and help her understand her lineage
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  Speaker 2: and her history and, you know, all of this craziness,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 4: Now, does this feel like an album release to you?
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  Speaker 4: Because you're used to the album releases, right? You're coming out,
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  Speaker 4: you're doing tour, you're doing press. Does that feel the
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  Speaker 4: same way with this book?
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  Speaker 2: We were talking about that yesterday, and it feels kind
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  Speaker 2: of like the old school way of when your album drop,
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  Speaker 2: you everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Artists don't do that no more. They don't do no
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  Speaker 2: damn work. They don't want to do no work. They
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  Speaker 2: just drop it and think they good. But yeah, we've
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  Speaker 2: been a lot of places talking to a lot of people,
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  Speaker 2: and it's been bringing up a lot of emotion, too.
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  Speaker 2: There's been some heavy... heavy things I had to talk
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  Speaker 2: about in interviews. and with, but it's also like, I
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  Speaker 2: had a talk with Anderson Cooper and interestingly enough, we
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  Speaker 2: related because we're similar because we were, we call it,
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  Speaker 2: he calls it the strong child. Like, so I was
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  Speaker 2: the oldest and one thing that came up in therapy
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  Speaker 2: recently was me dealing with my grief, and I've always
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  Speaker 2: had to be the strong one. My mom said, look
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  Speaker 2: out for your brothers and your sisters. Make sure you
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  Speaker 2: look out for them. So I always had to keep
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  Speaker 2: it together for everybody else. And I realized that was
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  Speaker 2: affecting my grieving because I was holding it together. I
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  Speaker 2: was masking it by being on tour, working on, shout
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  Speaker 2: out Tony Armani, working on his album and keeping myself
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  Speaker 2: busy And my last therapy session, I just broke down
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  Speaker 2: and realized I was being so strong that I didn't
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  Speaker 2: give myself time to grieve. And me and Anderson related
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  Speaker 2: in that because he's the last one in his family
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  Speaker 2: still alive. And he said that he had to also
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  Speaker 2: be the strong child. So we bonded in that sense.
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  Speaker 2: And so doing this rollout, it's just a lot of,
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  Speaker 2: it's been heavy. Some days I come in and I'm
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  Speaker 2: just like, Because in the moment, it's free, but it's
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  Speaker 2: also heavy. It's a lot reliving all of these situations
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  Speaker 2: and things that happened in my life.
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned Tony Omani. That's the artist I was talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Is he a country singer? Tony Omani. He does Southern Soul.
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  Speaker 2: So what's crazy is... My song, I Like Them Girls.
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  Speaker 2: Some of y'all dancing to his song right now, Country Girl,
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  Speaker 2: and y'all don't even realize that's I Like Them Girls,
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  Speaker 2: Lil Jon and East Side Boyz flipped. So how we
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  Speaker 2: connected was I heard it, and instead of being like,
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  Speaker 2: you owe me a whole bunch of money, I said,
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  Speaker 2: let's work. So we started communicating like two years ago,
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  Speaker 2: and then last year we was working on some stuff
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  Speaker 2: And then this year he helped me to kind of
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  Speaker 2: get through, you know, the passing of my son. He,
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  Speaker 2: after I buried my son, I came back to LA
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  Speaker 2: and a song I had been asking him to work
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  Speaker 2: on for a while, he sent me as soon as
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  Speaker 2: I got back. So it gave me something to focus on,
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  Speaker 2: something positive to look forward to. And we started working
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  Speaker 2: on his album. And so working on his album helped,
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  Speaker 2: you know, music is, you know, you're a music person,
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  Speaker 2: you're a music person. music is our life and it
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  Speaker 2: helps us to get through so many things. So I
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  Speaker 2: went back to doing what I do, you know, to
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  Speaker 2: make me happy. It was just make music. So we, we,
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  Speaker 2: we worked on his album and we finished the album.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm working on Tony O's album while I'm grieving.
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  Speaker 2: I'm getting myself prepared to go on this tour with
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  Speaker 2: pit bull while I'm grieving. So we, and we had
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  Speaker 2: a wonderful, successful tour this year, still touring. Um, So
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  Speaker 2: all of those things were things that I had to
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  Speaker 2: use to help me get through it. And also, I
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  Speaker 2: want to say this. At one point, I remember I
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  Speaker 2: was in the house crying like every day in my sadness,
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  Speaker 2: in my sorrow, down. And one day I said, my
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  Speaker 2: daughter and my partner, they don't deserve the worst of me.
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  Speaker 2: They deserve the best parts of me. So I need
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  Speaker 2: to change things. I need to pull myself out of
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  Speaker 2: this and be better for them. Because I don't want
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  Speaker 2: my daughter to have memories of me just always crying
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  Speaker 2: and sad. She needs to have a happy dad that
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  Speaker 2: wants to go do things with her and play with
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  Speaker 2: her and all of this. So I said, they deserve
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  Speaker 2: better versions of me.
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  Speaker 3: But your therapist, I'm sure, said feel your feels too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course. But sometimes it reminds me of
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  Speaker 2: those romantic comedies. when the girl gets broken up with
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  Speaker 2: or whatever and she's in the house and she's eating
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  Speaker 2: pizza for two weeks and don't change her clothes and
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  Speaker 2: her house is a mess, then her friends come over
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  Speaker 2: and say, girl, you got to get out of this.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it reminds me of for myself. I did
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  Speaker 2: that for myself. I pulled myself out of that and
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  Speaker 2: got out, you know, and just became, just tried to
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  Speaker 2: change my mood and my mindset.
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  Speaker 3: It's so interesting, man.
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  Speaker 5: The reason I love the childhood stuff, I love the
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  Speaker 5: part when you was talking about I guess the way
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  Speaker 5: your house was set up so your mom would call
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  Speaker 5: for you and your brother says that's where the ad-libs
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  Speaker 5: came from?
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, my brother thinks that, but it kind of
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  Speaker 2: just came out.
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  Speaker 3: Like, what? Yeah!
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  Speaker 2: No, but that's like a family joke kind of when
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: we put that in the book.
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  Speaker 3: That could be a cartoon within itself.
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  Speaker 5: It could literally be a cartoon called Little John.
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  Speaker 3: Just about you as a kid. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that would be funny. I'm open for that.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody out there want to put that together.
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  Speaker 3: You know? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You talk about having like, well, witches, but not witches
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  Speaker 1: in your family.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That being a thing too.
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  Speaker 3: I think that'd be fine. That's the South.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. That, but I mean, it's true. Like that's real,
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  Speaker 2: real shit. Like I've always been spiritually inclined to, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean? And, I didn't understand it at first.
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  Speaker 2: My mother had books around the house about spirituality and
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  Speaker 2: all of that stuff. And I would pick them up
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  Speaker 2: and read a little bit, but I didn't know. And
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  Speaker 2: as I got older, I realized that I could talk
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  Speaker 2: to people's spirits. People's spirits would talk to me. I
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  Speaker 2: could meet you somewhere and your spirit tell me everything
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  Speaker 2: about you. And I'd come back and tell you, hey,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be all right. everything you're going through, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 2: People be looking at me like, how the hell you
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  Speaker 2: know that? Or sometimes I'm walking through the club and
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  Speaker 2: I feel something. I'm like this person, I need to
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  Speaker 2: get this person a hug, you know? So I've always
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  Speaker 2: been spiritually inclined and then writing the book, talking to
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  Speaker 2: my aunt and understanding that, you know, my mother was
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  Speaker 2: born with a veil on her, as they say in
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  Speaker 2: the South. And then my aunts have different abilities, you know,
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  Speaker 2: And I believe my son had it too. And my
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  Speaker 2: daughter has it already too. You know, she's already, it's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of kids that around her that are like
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  Speaker 2: just kids that just regular. She knows she's aware at
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  Speaker 2: less than two years old. She's aware of everything going on.
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  Speaker 2: And she understands like three languages already. She can speak
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  Speaker 2: three languages. Count the 10. She's not even two years
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  Speaker 2: old yet in English and Spanish. Like, she's different.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: You know, I had to DJ a party this week.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: I don't really DJ really open format parties. I use
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: hip-hop and R & B. And, you know, going through
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: my crates and I'm playing, and I'm like, Jesus Christ,
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: Lil Jon produced a lot of fucking records. But not
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: only that, what I was impressed about was, like, some producers,
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: no disrespect to some of the producers, you hear the
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: same sound, so you know it's from them. When I
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: was going through the Lil Jon crate, I'm like, He
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: produced this that don't sound like that.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: That's not this tempo.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: That's this tempo that came from the bass, that came
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: from yin-yang, that came from slow. When you produce, do
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: you make it your business to make sure it doesn't
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: sound like the other beat? Like you said, I'm not
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: going to use this kick.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Because that's the kick. Yeah, one moment like that. That
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: was in his career. And I always wondered about that,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: and you explained it in the book with Yeah and Freak-A-Leek.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so we can talk about that right now.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: So the only reason Yeah and Freak-A-Leek sound so similar
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: is because Yeah, was recorded over the Freaker League beat.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: We did not know it was Freaker League yet. Those
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: beats were originally done. I get into this in the
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: book really deep. Those beats were done for Mystical. That
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: was a beat for Mystical. He turned it down. Somehow
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Petey Pablo. Well, the beats were done for Jive Records.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I would go in the studio and I make a
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: bunch of beats and the label puts them on whoever
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: they want. So I didn't, when Mystical didn't pick it,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I thought it was dead. So I just had the beats.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: But little did I know, shout out C.O. C.O. wrote
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: part of Freaker League and gave it to Jive and
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: then Petey Pablo cut it. I didn't know this. On
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: the other side, Sean Garrett gets beats. He writes yeah
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: to the Freaker League beat. So fast forward, Freaker League
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: ends up coming out. L.A. Reid calls me and Jermaine
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Dupri on three way. And he's like, why am I
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: hearing this fucking Usher record playing on the radio? He
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: was in Miami on vacation. It was like early December.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: And we like, we don't know what the fuck. So
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: we figured it out and found out that they released
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Petey Pablo cut the record. They released it. And so
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: we had to go in and redo. Yeah. So me
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: thinking it's Petey Pablo again. I don't know how big
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: that's going to be. This is fucking usher. Let's just
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: take the, let's take the music off and keep the drums.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: So the drums are exactly the same because the drums
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: are exactly the same. And we just played new synths,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: synth lines over the top of the drums. And that's
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: why the beat is the same, but yeah, that's the same.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: But even yeah. And, and say, uh, damn, it's a
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: similar sound, but they don't sound alike. You know, it's
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: a different energy. You know, so, yeah, I produced, like,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Shawty Wanna Ride With Me. People never get that. That's
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: a Lil Jon beat. I didn't know that. You didn't
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: know that? Yeah, I did Shawty Wanna Ride With Me.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: That was a hit, too. You know what I mean?
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Shawty Wanna Ride With Me.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: I told you.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that one.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that one.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I just found out, like, five years ago. I just
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: found out five years ago he did Blow the Whistle. Yeah,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I knew that.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: I didn't know that, because it don't sound like Lil Jon.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: had no clue.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I did not know you produced Shorty on the Rock.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Why, you just Googled it and checked? Did you just
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: check after he just told you? See, right? This is
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: the source.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: He did not believe it. He didn't believe it. He
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: just Googled it in the book?
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: No, but he, I mean, he's telling.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: You right now.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: It's a lot, it's a lot, yeah, it's a lot
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: in the book though.
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: But you talk about, yeah, almost not making it to
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: the album because of that whole situation, right?
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because they wanted, uh, Burn was the single. They
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: had picked Burn as the single. And I don't think,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I think Usher was cool with it, yeah, but I
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: don't think he liked it like that. But I end
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: up leaking the song once we got it redone. And
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: then it's legendary stories in the book that go in
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: detail about that too. But the radio, so in case
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: y'all out there watching and listening, at certain times when
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: somebody would leak a song, the label would send the record,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: the radio stations, a letter saying, stop playing it, cease
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: and desist. And when yeah, it was out, they tried
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: to do this. And it was a coalition of program directors.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: They said, fuck you. We ain't going to stop playing
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: this song. This is a hit record. And so it was,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: it was a problem, but then the label saw how big,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: how many spins the song was getting, how it was
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: growing like four times, uh, It was just not even doubling,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: quadrupling in spins or just exploding every week. And they
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: was just like, all right. And then we almost didn't
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: even make, we shot the video late. Like you had
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: to have a video out in these days and you
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: had to shoot the video by a certain time to
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: get it in. And we were late even shooting the video.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So that song just lined,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: the stars just aligned for that record.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: And salute to Pitbull too.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: You pour into Pitbull a lot in the book because
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: Pitbull poured a lot into you.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Pitbull even let them hands fly for you one time.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Y'all think Pitbull is all, you know, suits. Nah, that
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: boy from the streets, man. And it's a story in
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: the book where.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Don't tell it.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell it. I'm just saying, yeah,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: it's things happening. Like we really got love for each other.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: You know, we've been on tour all this year and
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I have to, you know, I have to just thank
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: him for, you know, a lot of times in the industry,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: people are fake and they forget the people that looked
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: out for them. So 25 years of us knowing each other,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: he fought for me to be on this tour with
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: him because, you know, sometimes the powers that be are like, no,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: let's use somebody else. Lil Jon, I don't know about
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: that guy. But he fought for me to be out
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: here on this tour. And when we booked the tour,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: we didn't even really know it, but we had this
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: song bubbling, Damn I Love Miami. And by the time
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: we hit the road, this song is a smash. This
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: song just went gold. It was crazy. It was released
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: in 2020. And last year, it started to just catch
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: fire in these line dance clubs. And then the white
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: girls picked it up because he said, the college white girls,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: he says, I got two brunettes and a blonde one.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: So that became a number one TikTok in college. So
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: the song blew up. And now here we are 25
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: years later. We don't have a hit tour, selling out shows,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: and we got another hit record together.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: The one thing that's the powerful lesson about the Pitbull,
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: you and Pitbull's relationship is you said that he would
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: show you gratitude. Like he would go on stage and say,
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: you know, thank you little John, I wouldn't be in
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: this position without you.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: And that means a lot.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, the more gratitude you put
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: out there, the more things come back to you.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Every show he does that. He has, we have a
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: moment where I'm on stage with him and he tells
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: the crowd, you know, This guy gave me an opportunity.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: He believed in me, showed me the game. And I
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: want everybody out here right now to say thank you,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Little John. He does this every single show. And what's
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: crazy is the last show we did here in the States,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: when he did that, something hit me. I thanked the crowd,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: and then I said thank you because I didn't realize it.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Until that day, I didn't realize it, but I needed
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: to be out on the road. I needed to be
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: out in front of people and feeling that positivity come
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: to me. I needed to be around different people in
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: the crew, my crew, his crew, and laughing and having
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: a good time again because it was rough to just
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: even get to the point of being able to go
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: out on the tour. And I just didn't realize I
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: needed that love. Looking at the crowd and seeing them
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: singing the songs, all of that stuff, seeing how I'm
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: bringing them joy gave me joy.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: Have you ever got a time of dizziness on tour, right?
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Because you scream, you yell.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: You're at it.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, if I did that for 30 minutes straight,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: I probably would pass out.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Do you ever get that way? No, you got to
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: come from the diaphragm. The diaphragm.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: My favorite Lil Jon concert ever, and I literally watched
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: this about a few weeks ago.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: That MTV $ 2 bill. Oh my God, man.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: Y'all got, if you out there, Google that on YouTube
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: and watch Little John MTV $ 2.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: What's it called?
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: $ 2 bill.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: $ 2 bill. That was an incredible show.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: If you don't know the history of Little John musically,
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: watch that show.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: That show was crazy because you can look at the,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: when you look at the footage, you can see the
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: camera shaking. It was literally like an earthquake was in Atlanta.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: That was in the height of crunk music. And we
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: were in Atlanta where it all started for us. And
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: the energy was like people think they turn up now
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: and they think they lit. Y'all have no idea. Y'all
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: never was in them clubs like The Bounce and Denim
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: and Diamonds and Memphis. And, you know, these crazy high
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: energy clubs. Y'all have no idea. And that was, that
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: show captured the essence of the energy of what the
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: crunk clubs were in Atlanta at the time.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: The only thing I wish was Usher came out at
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: the end.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been dope.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: That's the only thing.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: That would have been, that would have flipped it upside down.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: You talk about a bit in the book before we
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: move on, the and friends, like how people do the concerts,
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: like this person and friends.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Or that when you did Summer Jam here.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Bruh, nobody had done that. You went, you was there, right? Mm-hmm.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Had you seen anybody do it to that level? And especially,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I'm from the freaking South. Niggas wasn't fucking with South
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: niggas like that back then. I'm bringing out Damian Marley.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I'm bringing out Daddy Yankee. I'm bringing out Fat Joe.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I got Bone Crusher. I got Ice Cube. I brought
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: out all kind of different people. in a way that
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I had never seen nobody do it. And what's crazy
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: is I, we didn't even do no rehearsals. I just
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: go to Cypher Sounds and be like, play that record. Yeah, yo,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: we got this person, this person, this, we line them up,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: but yeah, we just did it and smash.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: That's the other thing I like about John's book. Nothing
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: is random. Like, you know how you're randomly here? Like,
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: just now we heard, Lil Jon did Shorty Want to Ride.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: You're like, what? Lil Jon did Capleton. What? But then
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: you make everything make sense.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, I know. Okay, now I see why Lil Jon
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: produced that record.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: But other thing, too, you know, you were writing this
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: book when you lost your son, Nathan. Condolences.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: How did losing him change what you wanted this book
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: to mean?
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Well, when I started to go, when I was going
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: through it, I knew I wanted to write about it. Um,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I believe God has been slowing me down for a
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: bunch of different reasons. So when I turned 50, life
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: started to change. I started to slow down and I
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: believed part of it was to get, for God to
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: get me ready for my daughter, you know? And, but
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I now reflect and I believe there was also God
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: giving me my daughter to help me deal with the
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: loss of my son.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Because she's been, was keeping me wanting to live, keeping me,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: making me feel warm when I'm like just cold.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: You know, picking me up when I'm down. You know,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: the innocence of a child does so much for you
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: as a parent. And I'm a first time girl dad.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: So it's even more different. And then the mindset I'm
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: in now, like I said, since I'm slowed down, when
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I had Nate, I was still trying to figure life out.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: That was 1998. I hadn't made a world, you know
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: what I mean, a nationwide hit yet. You know, I'm
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: working at So So Def, but I'm doing the artist thing. But,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm still trying. I'm grinding, you know. So
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: now I'm slowed down. I'm more present. And, yeah, I
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: think I'm just in a better mindset. I think also...
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: when I started to do the meditation albums, uh, people
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: would DM me and say, Hey, your meditation albums helped
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: me get through this or helped me get through grief.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: It helped me to finally meditate. I never meditated before.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I never even thought about it. And I started to
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: realize that, you know, I can, I can help people
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: in ways that the music, you know, music made people
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: have a good time, party and release and, But now
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I can heal people like it just came. I started
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: to feel like I'm accepting a new calling and this
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: is my new purpose. So in opening up about Nate's
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: passing and what I was going through, I felt like
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I had to do that so I could also help
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: others to heal, to uh uplift them and to to
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: be relatable to somebody that wishes somebody that can relate
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: to what they're going through so i felt like i
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: had to share so i could for all of those reasons.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Did it help you heal more realizing that it was
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: an accident.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Uh, I knew it was an accident because, you know,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, I always knew, I knew he would never,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: you know, take his own life. I knew something happened,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: you know, that was accidental. And, um, you know, it's just,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: it's just hard for any parent to just go through
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: this because it's something you, we all as parents expect
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: our kids, they're going to bury us. And I think
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I talk about in the book where I had to
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: go to the, deal with the medical examiner. I had
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: to go to the, the worst thing you got to
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: do is go pick out caskets, bro. But that didn't
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: even hit me. The medical examiner hit me harder than
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: the casket. But what hit me with the casket was
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: when I walked into the funeral home, I mean, to
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: the funeral and I saw the casket and I knew
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: he was in there. I just, it just hit me.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: And then the feeling of everybody in there, the grief,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: all of that, seeing that casket I picked out and
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: knowing he was in there, all of that just, I
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: just broke down.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: So your daughter is the one who brings energy into
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: your life when you're the one who needs somebody to.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Lift you up. Yeah, her and my partner, but definitely
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: my daughter too, because she's just, she's small and she's,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: I have a reason to live. You know, children always
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: give us a new perspective on life and a reason
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: to live. And I have to be here for her.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: So that's another reason why I'm staying healthy too, is
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: for my daughter. I gotta be here for elementary school graduation,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: high school graduation, walking her down the aisle. So I
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: can only do that if I'm healthy and I'm in
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: a positive mindset and I'm working on myself every day.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I wake up every day, I give gratitude and I
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: say to myself, I wanna be a better person. Every
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: single day I wanna try to be a better human being.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: on the live planet.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: How did you know what part of the story with
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: your son that you wanted to tell or what you
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: wanted to include?
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I saw you include last conversations.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was important because we ended off
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: on a great note. I remember talking to his best friend,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: shout out Will, and Will told me that night that...
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: So I went to therapy. So me and my son...
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: let me give y'all a little tidbit of what's in
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: the book in this part. Me and my son had
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: a conversation on a Saturday night and he had been
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: dealing with some alopecia issues. And I, you know, I'm
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: an herb guy, find all these herbs and remedies. So
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I had sent him some, some supplements that could help
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: him with that. And he had been busy and he
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: wouldn't take in the supplement. So we, father, you know,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: we get on, Hey man, why are you, man, I
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: said that. So we get in a little dispute and,
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  Speaker 2: And then, you know, we end the conversation off in
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  Speaker 2: a great place. And then he sends me some text
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  Speaker 2: messages and just basically like, you know what? You know,
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  Speaker 2: I know we only argue sometimes because we care. You know,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: that's just a summarizer. It's more detailed in the book.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: And then Monday I go to my therapist and I
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  Speaker 2: tell my therapist what happened. And she explains to me from.
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  Speaker 2: his perspective, and I got to see it in a
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  Speaker 2: different light. So I called my son as soon as
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  Speaker 2: I got out of there and apologized to him and said, basically,
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  Speaker 2: I see you and I hear you. And I think
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: it was important for me to share that message because
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: some of us don't get to end off on good
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  Speaker 2: terms with our loved ones or tell them we're sorry
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  Speaker 2: and acknowledge that we see them. Because some people, they're
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: trying hard. It might be not to your level of
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: where you want them to be, but they are trying.
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  Speaker 2: And sometimes they need to hear that to feel it.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: So my son, his best friend told me when he arrived,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: because he came to my son's house that night. And
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: he said, as soon as he walked in the door,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: he was like, my son was like, man, guess what happened? Man,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: my dad apologized. And he said, he just started laughing
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  Speaker 2: and running around the house. So he was just so,
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  Speaker 2: ecstatic and elated that we had that moment together and
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  Speaker 2: that I saw him. And so I thought it was
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  Speaker 2: important that I share that so people understand time ain't
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: always on our side. You think you can go do
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: something with people later, you apologize later. No, do it now.
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  Speaker 2: Do it today because you don't know how much time
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: you have. And I was blessed that we had that
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: great conversation.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: I love it, man, because you've gone from making music
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: that encourages people to turn up, right? But now you're
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: making the meditation music that encourages.
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  Speaker 3: People to find peace.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: When did you get to that point in your life
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: where you know you needed less noise and more silence?
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Going through the divorce. Going through my divorce, and I
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: didn't like the way my mindset was. I didn't like
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: the way I was thinking. I was thinking about myself,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: in a sense, because I'm a businessman. So I'm like, okay.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: here's what it is, da-da-da-da-da, da-da-da-da-da, let's move on. I
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: wasn't thinking about her, you know, my ex-wife, and what
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: she was going through and her mental and how she
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: was experiencing this and how she was dealing with it.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking about it. I was just ready to
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: move on and just, you know, go find my stuff,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: my peace. And I started to say affirmations basically every
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: single day to help change my mindset and get me
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: out of this negative state way of thinking. Cause I don't,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: you know, I believe that you have to eliminate negativity
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  Speaker 2: out of your, your everything. Don't, don't wish ill upon people.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Don't wish bad things upon people. Cause whatever you put
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: in the universe is going to come back to you.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: So I'm all about positive thinking, positive everything. So I
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: started to say affirmations every single day. And then around
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: that time I met Kabir Segal, who I did all
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: of the meditation albums with. And we started talking about
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: a bunch of things and we decided that this would
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: be something great for us to embark on because I
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: was already moving toward that lane anyway by doing my
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: own affirmations every day. I was saying a bunch of
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: different affirmations. So I also started to write all of
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: those down and we included those into the meditations as well.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Man, go get the book, man.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: We're going to tell everybody every story in the book.
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  Speaker 5: Little John, I'll only shout so you can hear me.
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  Speaker 5: With Paul Cantor, available everywhere you buy books now, courtesy
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  Speaker 5: of Black Privileged Publishing, Simon & Schuster, man.
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  Speaker 3: Go get it, go get it, go get it.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us, man. Thank you. Wow. Well,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: get the book. It's out right now, and we appreciate you.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: It's Little John. Thank y'all. It's The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Hey, and listen, tonight you can come meet Lil Jon.
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: He'll be at the Barnes & Noble Union Square talking
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: about Our Only Shout.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: So you can hear me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I just want to do that.
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  Speaker 3: Moderated by myself.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Hey, come out. Come out, New York. Come on, New York.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Pull up.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. 6 p.m. tonight, Barnes & Noble Union Square.
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: You can go to littlejon.com for more details, but we'll
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: see you tonight talking about Our Only Shout so you
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: can hear me. Hey.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Congratulations. It's Lil Jon. Thank you.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Hold up.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all finished or y'all done?