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183: We Have Found The Wez · Movie Meltdown

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Speaker 2: To your stations, we have Movie Meltdown.
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Speaker 8: You!
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Speaker 9: You can run, but you can't hide!
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Speaker 10: What's up, and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
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Speaker 2: I'm Fred.
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Speaker 8: And we are coming to you live via digital recording
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Speaker 8: from Fright Night Film Fest here in Louisville, Kentucky.
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Speaker 11: And, um.
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Speaker 10: What a show it has been, Fred. What is your
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Speaker 10: take on it so far?
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Speaker 11: Oh, the humanity.
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Speaker 10: That's pretty accurate.
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Speaker 11: That's pretty much my take. I feel godlike here because
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Speaker 11: we're right in front of the escalators. And I have
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Speaker 11: this thing about people who just freeze on escalators. It
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Speaker 11: immobilizes them. And so I'm just sitting here and I'm
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Speaker 11: judging people. They don't realize, but I'm sorting them out.
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Speaker 2: Categorizing.
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Speaker 11: Yes.
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Speaker 10: Yes, the wheat, the chaff. I don't even know what
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Speaker 10: chaff is. I think you're making that word up.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that's a Bible word or something. I
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Speaker 11: don't know. But yeah, it's busy. There's all kinds of
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Speaker 11: people wandering around here. There are not words. I would
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Speaker 11: use words, but there are not words. I agree. And
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Speaker 11: it's amazing how many people I know.
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Speaker 8: We've seen a lot of people we know in this
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Speaker 8: past day or so.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I'm looking at people I know right
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Speaker 11: now just over recording other people that I don't know.
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Speaker 11: There's somebody I just met just wandering around. Anybody you meet,
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Speaker 11: there they are. It's like when you're in a grocery
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Speaker 11: and you see somebody you know and then Like a
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Speaker 11: minute later, you run into them again.
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Speaker 10: An aisle later by the melons, you're like, oh, this
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Speaker 10: is awkward now.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, because you talk to them a while, then you
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Speaker 11: say goodbye, and then you turn a corner, there they
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Speaker 11: are again. After a while, you're just like, how do
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Speaker 11: I get out of this hellhole, man?
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Speaker 8: That's why I just stop saying bye if I'm pretty
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Speaker 8: sure I've still got a day and a half. I'm
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Speaker 8: just like, see you later, because I'll see you about
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Speaker 8: every 15 minutes more than likely.
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Speaker 11: See you over by the freezer section. Well, you know,
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Speaker 11: I do have my crazy story I've been telling people.
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Speaker 11: It's like a block over here. I don't want to
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Speaker 11: tell the whole big story, but I went over there
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Speaker 11: the other day. It was the 166th anniversary of the
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Speaker 11: birth of the blockbuster motion picture, Louisville in 1846. June 29th,
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Speaker 11: I went over there and just stared up into the
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Speaker 11: air where this happened. A guy painted a the world's
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Speaker 11: biggest painting. It's a moving panorama of the Mississippi River.
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Speaker 11: And he showed it at a place called the Apollo Rooms.
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Speaker 11: It's like about a block away from here. And nobody
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Speaker 11: came opening night. You can go back in the old
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Speaker 11: newspapers in Louisville and see the notices. Nobody showed up.
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Speaker 11: It rained. It was a Monday night. But eventually, you know,
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Speaker 11: people came and saw it, and it was huge, and
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Speaker 11: he became, like, really rich. It was like a primitive
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Speaker 11: motion picture. It was, like, turned and cranked. But, you know,
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Speaker 11: he became rich. He became hugely successful. Then he lost
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Speaker 11: all his money and died poor again.
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Speaker 8: So it was almost on, like, I guess sort of a,
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Speaker 8: Like a window shade kind of operation, only one that
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Speaker 8: just sort of looped over and over?
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Speaker 11: It was like upright spools, and they were cranked, and
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Speaker 11: I found there was some music. He had a pianist
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Speaker 11: who played during the show, and I found the music,
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Speaker 11: but he didn't have it here. That came later after
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Speaker 11: he'd made some money. He commissioned them, and I got
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Speaker 11: a kid to play them for me, so I got
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Speaker 11: to hear this. It would have been nice if I
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Speaker 11: could go there and listen to it and know that
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Speaker 11: that happened there, but actually he didn't do that until Boston.
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Speaker 11: So I do have the music. His name was John Banford.
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Speaker 11: You can look him up on Wikipedia. And he's just
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Speaker 11: a forerunner of motion pictures. In a way, I want
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Speaker 11: to give him credit because he was the one who
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Speaker 11: found a big audience. You know, he didn't invent film.
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Speaker 11: He didn't invent anything, really. He just made it into
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Speaker 11: a big adventure.
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Speaker 8: Finding a way to market it. Finding a media outlet. Because,
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Speaker 8: you know, he advertised it and nobody came. But then
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Speaker 8: what he did the next day, on June 30th, was
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Speaker 8: he went down to the docks and he got, like,
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Speaker 8: the riverboat captains and people who had been on the Mississippi.
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Speaker 8: He gave them free tickets. So they came and saw it.
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Speaker 8: And they could you know, they were in a position
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Speaker 8: to say, yeah, that's what it looks like. You know,
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Speaker 8: for all the audiences who were not going to go
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Speaker 8: out on the frontier, on the Mississippi, and see it themselves,
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Speaker 8: it was a big deal. Until, you know, later, people
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Speaker 8: traveled more and saw photos.
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Speaker 3: Ah.
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Speaker 11: Oh, okay. Well, I can say I saw the other one.
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Speaker 11: The other boondock scene.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 11: And probably, I don't know, have you seen Willem Dafoe
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Speaker 11: walking around in a dress here anywhere?
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Speaker 10: I saw three guys in dresses yesterday.
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Speaker 8: None of them really look like Willem Dafoe, but they
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Speaker 8: were equally as beguiling, we'll say.
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Speaker 11: Beguiling, yeah. So that's my story. I spring on people.
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Speaker 11: I got to tell this director from London this story
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Speaker 11: just recently. On the day, on the anniversary. I think
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Speaker 11: she thought I was crazy, and her boyfriend did a
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Speaker 11: magic trick and mangled a fork. It was great.
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Speaker 10: Well, he wasn't from here, but it just ended up
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Speaker 10: he had a workshop here? Is that how it ended up?
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Speaker 11: Oh, Banford, he came here. He was kind of of here.
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Speaker 11: He came here from New York when he was 15.
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Speaker 11: His dad was.
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Speaker 11: Uh architect in new york and he had a stroke
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Speaker 11: and his partner left with all their money um and
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Speaker 11: so they were they went from being pretty well off
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Speaker 11: to having no money and he came here as a
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Speaker 11: kid and he liked to say he was all alone
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Speaker 11: in the world but actually he had a brother who
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Speaker 11: was a grocer down by the river and uh and
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Speaker 11: he did odd jobs and and worked on the first
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Speaker 11: uh Chapman's riverboat. They did Shakespeare and shows. He was
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Speaker 11: an actor and painted sets. And somewhere along the line,
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Speaker 11: he made some money and got the idea to paint
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Speaker 11: the Mississippi River on a quarter mile of canvas.
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Speaker 8: God sakes. Why would you even have that undertaking? What
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Speaker 8: would ever possess you to want to do that?
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Speaker 11: And that guy was a dreamer, wasn't he? And he
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Speaker 11: had to stick to it, get up every day and
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Speaker 11: paint on that thing.
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Speaker 8: Basically the same scene over and over, just slightly different.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's just the bank of the river. And I
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Speaker 11: know it was the East Bank, which is funny. Later
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Speaker 11: he painted the West Bank. He just couldn't get enough
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Speaker 11: of it. And he was rich, man. He was probably
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Speaker 11: the first millionaire artist in the world in the 1850s.
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Speaker 11: he was the most famous artist. And now he's, you know,
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Speaker 11: he's not in history books. He's forgotten. So I like
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Speaker 11: to think of him as an early pioneer of film
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Speaker 11: because that's what, you know, making movies is like. It's
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Speaker 11: an adventure. It's crazy. It's, you know, boom or bust,
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Speaker 11: I guess.
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Speaker 8: It really is interesting because it is that, like, crossing
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Speaker 8: over point. Like, again, like you said, he didn't invent
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Speaker 8: the camera. He didn't invent the, you know, the projector
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Speaker 8: or any of that stuff. But, It's that point in
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Speaker 8: the middle, that sort of gray area when these guys,
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Speaker 8: you know, these nerdy guys building the machinery had to.
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Speaker 11: Cross over with somebody who knew them.
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Speaker 8: How to find an audience and put together a show
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Speaker 8: that would bring people out there. And it is an
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Speaker 8: interesting thing that there is that sort of crossing over
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Speaker 8: point where you get and mix all the arts together.
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Speaker 8: His was actually a painting, but he found a way
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Speaker 8: to make it moving and make a literal moving picture
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Speaker 8: of And then you get that audience built in and
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Speaker 8: then work in the projectors and the screens and stuff.
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Speaker 8: So it is sort of that crossing over point.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, and it's like a dead media thing. All of
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Speaker 11: them are gone. After he did it and made a
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Speaker 11: lot of money, people started painting panoramas all over the place.
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Speaker 11: And they all said theirs was bigger. But they all
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Speaker 11: ran about the length of a movie. It's like that
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Speaker 11: time span is just in us.
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Speaker 8: You have to get it to that 90-minute mark or
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Speaker 8: you don't get in the, you know, you're not a
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Speaker 8: feature film.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, they were all about two hours, but he gets
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Speaker 11: the credit for the biggest painting in the world because
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Speaker 11: there's no evidence that anybody else did anything bigger.
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Speaker 10: Everyone else had sense.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, and he kept adding to his. But then he
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Speaker 11: founded a museum in New York and got into competition
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Speaker 11: with P.T. Barnum, and he struggled along, I mean, you know,
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Speaker 11: for years.
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Speaker 12: Yeah.
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Speaker 11: And then it went under and he hadn't registered the stock.
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Speaker 11: And so it ruined his name. All his investors lost
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Speaker 11: all their money. And he wound up out in South
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Speaker 11: Dakota living with his son. Didn't have any money. And
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Speaker 11: he and his wife, who had played, she was the
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Speaker 11: piano player that he hired in Boston. And they got married.
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Speaker 11: And he wound up living out there and still sometimes...
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Speaker 11: put on shows like historical reenactments for you know the
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Speaker 11: nobody who lived out there i mean still there's nobody
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Speaker 11: there there's still nobody there but he he just kept
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Speaker 11: at it you know i kind of admire him i
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Speaker 11: i heard this story my sister sent me a book
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Speaker 11: and i read the story and i'm like holy crap
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Speaker 11: this happened in my yard or something he actually painted
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Speaker 11: that and i never found out where you know he
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Speaker 11: painted it here in louisville somewhere and i know where
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Speaker 11: he showed it and there you know you can find
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Speaker 11: his family and the old city records from the 1830s
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Speaker 11: but there's i i'm getting on a psychic hotline or
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Speaker 11: something i'm just gonna call him up and say where
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Speaker 11: the hell was this thing because it could have been
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Speaker 11: anywhere around here you know.
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Speaker 10: Definitely in that little area.
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Speaker 8: I mean, both of us kind of live in that
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Speaker 8: area that's been around for 100, 150 years when any
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Speaker 8: of this could have been going on. So we actually
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Speaker 8: do live in that little area where they were doing
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Speaker 8: all this stuff.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's crazy. The stuff, like anywhere you are, what
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Speaker 11: might have happened there in the past. Because I know,
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Speaker 11: like around the corner, a few streets over, there's a
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Speaker 11: marker where Thomas Merton had this revelation about how he
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Speaker 11: loved everybody. And I know that because I was walking along.
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Speaker 11: It's around 4th Street. And I was walking along thinking
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Speaker 11: about how everybody gets on my last fucking nerve. And
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Speaker 11: then I look up and see this marker just to
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Speaker 11: make me feel bad, you know.
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Speaker 8: His mission is accomplished all these years later.
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Speaker 11: What a dick, that guy, loving everybody. And then, like,
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Speaker 11: further down on Broadway and 4th, like, is a spot
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Speaker 11: on the corner where, oh, what's her name from E.T.?
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Speaker 11: Drew Barrymore, her aunt Diana, was arrested and slapped a
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Speaker 11: cop in the 1940s. There's not a marker for that,
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Speaker 11: but it's pretty cool, too.
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Speaker 8: I know the parking lot that C.C. DeVille got arrested
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Speaker 8: in when he was... If we're going a little more modern,
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Speaker 8: I mean, I can... Yeah, it all counts.
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Speaker 11: Then there's a parking lot for the song Happy Birthday...
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Speaker 11: I don't think it was written in a parking lot,
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Speaker 11: but I don't really know. But it was written around
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Speaker 11: here somewhere. I live down the street from Thomas Edison's house.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah?
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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's pretty cool.
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Speaker 10: A little, like, shoebox thing that they call his.
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Speaker 8: Have you been to it? Yeah, I've been there. It's seriously, like,
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Speaker 8: right down the street from where I live. And only
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Speaker 8: now have I realized what a hack he was. Then
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Speaker 8: I realized, oh, well, Tesla actually did all of that stuff.
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Speaker 8: So I really don't care where his house is.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 11: When I first went to the Ali Museum, I asked
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Speaker 11: around if anybody knew where the house he grew up.
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Speaker 11: Because that seemed cool to me. And a guy did.
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Speaker 11: He called somebody and said, that's on Garland, wasn't it?
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Speaker 11: They got me the address and we drove over there.
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Speaker 11: There were a couple of kids sitting on the porch
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Speaker 11: looking at us drive slowly by. And they're kind of
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Speaker 11: laughing like, yeah, my uncle told somebody that story again.
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Speaker 11: But that's pretty cool, because I remember hearing Ali, like
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Speaker 11: when he was a kid, he would race the school
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Speaker 11: bus to school. He would wait for the school bus
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Speaker 11: to come, then he wouldn't get on. And that was
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Speaker 11: his training. He'd run there. Oh, Lord.
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Speaker 8: Well, I guess we can take a break from our
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Speaker 8: history here. We do have an awesome interview that we did,
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Speaker 8: so I guess we can get into that here when.
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Speaker 11: We come back.
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Speaker 8: We did talk to Vernon Wells, the... Star of many,
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Speaker 8: many movies, some of which we'll get to in a
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Speaker 8: minute here. So just when we come back, we'll set
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Speaker 8: the scene. Because Fred is here, and Greg is there
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Speaker 8: as well. And he gets his hopes and dreams dashed
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Speaker 8: by Vernon. Well, you'll get to it. He ruins his childhood. Anyway,
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Speaker 8: we'll get to that in a minute. So we will
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Speaker 8: take a break and be back with our interview with
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Speaker 8: Vernon Wells.
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Speaker 3: Working for the man every night and day And I
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Speaker 3: never lost one minute of sleeping Worrying about the way
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Speaker 3: things might have been.
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Speaker 13: Big wheel keep on turning, turning Round and keep on burning,
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Speaker 13: burning Rolling, rolling, rolling on the river Rolling, rolling, rolling
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Speaker 13: on the river.
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Speaker 14: In the future, cities will become deserts. Roads will become battlefields.
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Speaker 14: And the hope of mankind will appear as a stranger.
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Speaker 14: He works alone against all odds. He may be the
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Speaker 14: best chance we've got.
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Speaker 9: You want to get out of here?
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Speaker 12: You talk to me.
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Speaker 5: The Road Warrior. Pray that he's out there. Somewhere.
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Speaker 15: And I'm trying to improve my health and my outlook
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Speaker 15: because of my daughter. But that's like 80% of the reason.
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Speaker 15: The other 20% is because I sincerely believe in 20
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Speaker 15: years society is going to collapse and we're going to
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Speaker 15: be living in this weird, irradiated wasteland like in The
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Speaker 15: Road Warrior. So in my head, I'm like, well, I'm
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Speaker 15: clearly going to be being chased by mutants on motorcycles.
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Speaker 15: I'm way, I can't run very fast, so I need
19:05
Speaker 15: to slim down. And we all know that motorcycle mutants
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Speaker 15: are cannibals, so I'm just too much of a treat, right?
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Speaker 15: I'm like a luau to those guys. I gotta focus
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Speaker 15: on stringy or I'm dead.
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Speaker 9: We'll be right back.
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Speaker 16: So we are here with Vernon Wells. I guess go
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Speaker 16: way back.
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Speaker 2: Where were you born?
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Speaker 1: In a hospital beside my mother, who has often said
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Speaker 1: to me, I was born coming out of a woman
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Speaker 1: and spent the rest of my life trying to get
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Speaker 1: back in.
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Speaker 16: One of those situations.
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Speaker 2: Oh, totally, yes. I've never met a man who didn't
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Speaker 2: like sex, and I'm no different.
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Speaker 16: But certainly outside the Hollywood system, as it were, so.
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Speaker 1: I was actually born in Australia, in a little country
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Speaker 1: town called Rushworth, which was a gold mining town.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And probably had a population of 25,000 people. And then
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Speaker 1: I grew up in a tiny little town called Winolta
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Speaker 1: with my grandparents. And that had a population of 12.
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Speaker 1: And one store. And I used to go to school
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Speaker 1: in a horse and gray. But the farm that was
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Speaker 1: the furthest out, the kids would... get on the horse
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Speaker 1: and ride down, and they'd.
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Speaker 2: Pick up the other six kids as they went, and
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Speaker 2: we'd all go to school that way and come home
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Speaker 2: that way.
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Speaker 16: I guess it was a little easier to get in trouble.
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Speaker 16: They couldn't blame it on many other people.
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Speaker 2: No, that was a real bummer, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Don't cut down your grandfather's prized trees because he's got
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Speaker 1: to know it's you.
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Speaker 16: So probably not a whole lot of movie theaters in
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Speaker 16: the area?
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 7: No, not a lot.
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Speaker 2: It was a bit of a problem.
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Speaker 1: I grew up with radio and all the old serials
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Speaker 1: were on like Biggles and Superman and all these kind
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Speaker 1: of things. I don't know, I just grew up enjoying it.
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Speaker 1: I never wanted to be an actor, which is a
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Speaker 1: funny thing. My mother was a very successful country and
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Speaker 1: western songwriter in Australia. And out of all the kids,
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Speaker 1: I was the one that got the talent towards music.
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Speaker 1: And I was in a couple of big bands in Australia.
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Speaker 1: I grew up with a kid called Gary Anderson who
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Speaker 1: was in Rose Tattoo. And we were in bands together.
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Speaker 1: I had a couple of big show bands that I
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Speaker 1: worked in that toured enormously successfully through Asia and Australia.
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Speaker 2: And that's virtually where I thought I was going to stay.
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Speaker 16: What did you play?
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Speaker 2: I sang.
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Speaker 1: I played the fool a lot, but I sang. And
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Speaker 1: I figured that was me. My life was going to
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Speaker 1: be a rock and roll singer. Sex, drugs and rock
23:01
Speaker 1: and roll in that order.
23:02
Speaker 2: And it was really cool.
23:06
Speaker 1: But I was involved in a very bad accident in
23:09
Speaker 1: the band truck where I got severely hurt.
23:12
Speaker 2: And while I was recuperating.
23:13
Speaker 1: I became a real pain in the ass to our
23:15
Speaker 1: manager because I wasn't allowed to work with the band
23:17
Speaker 1: because I couldn't stand up for very long because my
23:20
Speaker 1: back had been broken and I'd compressed, fractured it and
23:24
Speaker 1: all this kind of shit. And he just, you know,
23:29
Speaker 1: finally out of desperation he went to one of the
23:32
Speaker 1: biggest casting agents in Melbourne and said, you know, please
23:38
Speaker 1: take him on my fucking hands, please. And she kind
23:41
Speaker 1: of liked my look and said.
23:42
Speaker 2: You know, we've got to.
23:43
Speaker 1: we're casting for a commercial it'd probably be really cool
23:47
Speaker 1: and I actually got it and then I realized that
23:50
Speaker 1: I was getting all this money and I wasn't sharing
23:52
Speaker 1: it with six other dicks it was just me so
23:54
Speaker 1: I thought could be something in this but it was
23:59
Speaker 1: probably the most boring time of my life was being
24:02
Speaker 1: a model and from that it sort of became an
24:06
Speaker 1: actor without wanting to be I became an extra on
24:10
Speaker 1: television shows and the reason that you're an extra on
24:12
Speaker 1: a television show is You know, free booze, free food,
24:16
Speaker 1: and you get.
24:16
Speaker 2: Laid if you're lucky. It was like the life of Riley.
24:22
Speaker 2: That's what's been luring.
24:23
Speaker 16: People to Hollywood for years.
24:25
Speaker 2: So, you know, I was like, oh, this is so cool.
24:28
Speaker 1: And through no fault of my own or not because
24:33
Speaker 1: I wanted to try, I kept getting kind of, you know,
24:37
Speaker 1: the director would go, hey, you, the big shit in
24:39
Speaker 1: the back, come here. And I'd sort of drag my
24:42
Speaker 1: ass up to the front and say, say this line.
24:45
Speaker 1: And it just, you know, that it would say these
24:48
Speaker 1: two lines. Say these three lines.
24:50
Speaker 2: And I really didn't want to do it. I hated it.
24:52
Speaker 2: I hated being in front of a camera. And I
24:55
Speaker 2: hated the.
24:55
Speaker 1: Whole thing of being an actor. It was like, ain't
24:57
Speaker 1: gonna happen, dude. And I went off and decided I'd
25:01
Speaker 1: become a director. Because that's where I really liked being,
25:04
Speaker 1: was behind the camera. So I started directing commercials and.
25:09
Speaker 2: Documentaries and a couple of little films. And I thought
25:12
Speaker 2: that was.
25:12
Speaker 1: Where I was going to stay. I was really happy
25:14
Speaker 1: doing that. And I got asked to do a stage
25:17
Speaker 1: play and I sort of said, no, I wasn't interested.
25:20
Speaker 1: They just persisted for about five months. And finally, I
25:26
Speaker 1: agreed to do it. And it went on to become
25:30
Speaker 1: extremely successful. Extremely successful. And George Miller's girlfriend, Sandy Gore,
25:38
Speaker 1: saw a performance and contacted George and said, I have
25:43
Speaker 1: found the way. And George came from Sydney down to Melbourne.
25:48
Speaker 2: I lived in Melbourne. And we chatted.
25:50
Speaker 1: And he explained the character to me, and I flatly
25:52
Speaker 1: refused to do it.
25:53
Speaker 2: I just said, it ain't happening. Nope, not me. I said,
25:57
Speaker 2: you want him to do what?
25:59
Speaker 11: No.
26:01
Speaker 2: And it just seemed so ludicrous and so not who
26:05
Speaker 2: I was. I was like, no, no, don't want to
26:08
Speaker 2: do it.
26:09
Speaker 1: And about two months after that, they contacted my management
26:14
Speaker 1: and said, look, we need him to come to Sydney
26:16
Speaker 1: because we need him to try out all the costumes
26:20
Speaker 1: and the makeup and everything. And I said, I'm not
26:23
Speaker 1: doing the film. Why in the fuck do I have
26:24
Speaker 1: to do, you know, costumes and makeup? And my manager said, well,
26:30
Speaker 1: George thought that you're about the right build and they
26:33
Speaker 1: just want to see what it looks like and all
26:35
Speaker 1: this bullshit. And I'm such a dumb shit that I went, oh, okay, fine.
26:39
Speaker 1: So I went up to Sydney and they dressed me
26:41
Speaker 1: in the costume and shaved my head, did the whole
26:43
Speaker 1: thing and paraded me around like a dumb fuck. And
26:47
Speaker 1: George said, so what do you think? And I was like,
26:51
Speaker 1: you know, if I ever see you in a dark alley.
26:54
Speaker 1: So that was virtually how I got it. And I mean,
26:56
Speaker 1: the whole point was if I hadn't got it, I
26:58
Speaker 1: wouldn't be here. You wouldn't be interested in interviewing me.
27:00
Speaker 1: The whole nine yards. It's one of those things that
27:05
Speaker 1: I guess sometimes... You're fated to do something or be something,
27:11
Speaker 1: and no matter what you do to avoid it, there's
27:14
Speaker 1: some little shit standing at the corner waiting until you
27:17
Speaker 1: get there, and he grabs you by the balls and
27:19
Speaker 1: drags you in and says, hey, this is what you're
27:21
Speaker 1: going to do.
27:21
Speaker 16: This is what you're going to do.
27:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it all came about, and it took me,
27:29
Speaker 1: after I did Road Warrior, it probably took me three
27:31
Speaker 1: years to accept the film because I hated it. it
27:39
Speaker 1: was just this big stone around my neck. Every time
27:41
Speaker 1: I went for an audition, people would look at me
27:43
Speaker 1: and they'd.
27:43
Speaker 2: Go, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:46
Speaker 1: Yes, well, we really wanted you to be the husband,
27:49
Speaker 1: but you'd probably be screwing the kids and killing the
27:52
Speaker 1: wife and having sex with the dog or something.
27:56
Speaker 2: So it was like this whole thing, and I hated it.
27:59
Speaker 2: I was like, ah. And when they wanted me to
28:03
Speaker 2: come to America, they couldn't get me to come here.
28:05
Speaker 11: Again, no.
28:08
Speaker 2: I'm such a dipshit.
28:10
Speaker 16: You're fighting all the important decisions.
28:13
Speaker 2: And finally, it was Joel Silver that wanted me to
28:15
Speaker 2: come for Weird Science. And I was like, you want
28:18
Speaker 2: me to do what? You want me to do a
28:19
Speaker 2: comedy version of Wes? Oh, that'll be good. And I
28:24
Speaker 2: was just like, I don't want to do it. I
28:26
Speaker 2: don't want America. You know, where all those weird people live.
28:32
Speaker 16: That's still true.
28:33
Speaker 1: You know, I was not going to America. And eventually,
28:36
Speaker 1: of course, I got drugged. kicking and screaming to the stage.
28:42
Speaker 2: And once again.
28:42
Speaker 1: There by the grace of God you know I wouldn't
28:46
Speaker 1: be here again I got sort of sucked in and
28:48
Speaker 1: then it all started you know Well.
28:52
Speaker 16: That's what I was going to ask.
28:53
Speaker 8: I mean, you, within a few years, are already playing
28:55
Speaker 8: a variation of your own character. And then, like, if
28:58
Speaker 8: you look through 80s, even into the mid-90s, there's, like,
29:02
Speaker 8: all these villain characters in these sometimes normal movies, sometimes post-apocalyptic,
29:07
Speaker 8: but they're all basically this, like, version of your character
29:10
Speaker 8: from Road Warrior. Was that weird to see, you know,
29:14
Speaker 8: watching people do some sort of character that's stealing from you, basically?
29:18
Speaker 2: You know, it's actually interesting because I'll tell you a
29:22
Speaker 2: funny little story. I went in for an interview for
29:25
Speaker 2: a film. Walked into a room, and there.
29:28
Speaker 1: Was probably 12 people around a table.
29:32
Speaker 2: And the guy, the casting director said to me, he said,
29:35
Speaker 2: would you like to know anything about the character? And
29:36
Speaker 2: I went, not really.
29:38
Speaker 1: And he said, well, we're looking for a specific type
29:42
Speaker 1: of character.
29:43
Speaker 2: And I went, yeah, I've read the sides. I kind
29:47
Speaker 2: of get what you want. He said, yeah, but I
29:50
Speaker 2: want you to, you know, to do your best because
29:53
Speaker 2: he had all the producers there. And finally I sort
29:55
Speaker 2: of went, oh, what the fuck? Just tell me what
29:56
Speaker 2: do you want? And he said, did you ever see
30:00
Speaker 2: Road Warrior?
30:01
Speaker 7: And I went.
30:05
Speaker 2: Um, yes.
30:07
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking I'm being punked, you know. So I'm
30:10
Speaker 1: looking for the camera. There's got to be a camera
30:13
Speaker 1: here somewhere.
30:14
Speaker 2: And I said, yes.
30:15
Speaker 1: And he said, do you remember the guy with the
30:17
Speaker 1: red mohawk? Now I'm convinced I'm being punked. And I said, uh-huh.
30:22
Speaker 3: Uh-huh.
30:24
Speaker 2: He said, what we're looking for is someone that can
30:27
Speaker 2: do that character.
30:28
Speaker 1: And I went, where are we going to find him?
30:31
Speaker 2: Where will we find him?
30:33
Speaker 16: I think you can pull that off.
30:35
Speaker 4: That's hilarious.
30:36
Speaker 6: And then he says, you're definitely not right.
30:39
Speaker 2: No, actually, he didn't.
30:41
Speaker 1: I did the interview, and I did the audition, and
30:46
Speaker 1: everybody sits there.
30:47
Speaker 2: They're all like.
30:48
Speaker 11: Wow.
30:49
Speaker 1: When I was finishing and he said, you know what?
30:51
Speaker 1: We're looking for the guy that played the role. If
30:54
Speaker 1: we can't find him, it's yours.
30:57
Speaker 2: And I went.
30:59
Speaker 16: You said, good luck.
31:01
Speaker 2: I'm slowly realizing that they have no fucking idea who
31:04
Speaker 2: I am. So I'm like sitting there going, okay. And
31:08
Speaker 2: he said, you wouldn't happen to have a photo, would you?
31:10
Speaker 2: And I said, yes, you know, like your resume. And
31:13
Speaker 2: at that stage, I used to have a little picture
31:15
Speaker 2: in the corner of it of Wes, you know, in
31:17
Speaker 2: the corner of my resume. I said, yeah, actually, I do.
31:20
Speaker 1: So I sort of flipped it across the table to him.
31:23
Speaker 2: And he said, oh, thank you. And he picked it
31:24
Speaker 2: up and he went. And you could see his eye
31:29
Speaker 2: just sort of come up over the top of the phone.
31:31
Speaker 2: He looked at me and I went, I think I'm
31:33
Speaker 2: going to be busy that week. It's like, you've got
31:37
Speaker 2: to be fucking kidding me. They watch.
31:39
Speaker 1: And my agent loves to ring me up. I have
31:41
Speaker 1: a voiceover agent. He'll ring me up and he'll go,
31:44
Speaker 1: they're looking for a Wes. And I go, oh, great,
31:46
Speaker 1: so I've got a job.
31:47
Speaker 2: He said, no, they want a younger one.
31:50
Speaker 16: That's what you want to hear.
31:53
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, we want a Wes, but he's got to
31:54
Speaker 2: be younger.
31:55
Speaker 11: What the hell?
31:58
Speaker 8: So did that sort of paint you into that corner
32:01
Speaker 8: of being a villain?
32:02
Speaker 16: I mean, you said you were going in not getting
32:04
Speaker 16: the husband roles.
32:06
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I became the go-to villain.
32:08
Speaker 11: Yeah.
32:09
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's funny because if you're an actor,
32:12
Speaker 1: the villain roles are the best.
32:14
Speaker 3: Yeah.
32:14
Speaker 1: You know, all villains have no boundaries. You know, whereas
32:18
Speaker 1: if you're the good guy or the hero, you've got boundaries.
32:20
Speaker 1: You know, you have to work within a framework because
32:23
Speaker 1: you've got to be able to do this. You can't,
32:25
Speaker 1: you know, have sex with the leading lady. You know,
32:29
Speaker 1: whereas if you're the villain, you can have sex with
32:31
Speaker 1: dead bodies. Nobody cares. And so it's really a cool thing.
32:36
Speaker 1: But the funny thing is that in probably the last
32:39
Speaker 1: five years, I have got nothing but good guys. There
32:45
Speaker 1: was a friend of mine cast me in a film,
32:46
Speaker 1: Jackal and Hyde.
32:48
Speaker 2: And I said, oh, goody, am I playing Jackal or Hyde?
32:52
Speaker 2: And he said, neither, you're playing the good guy.
32:53
Speaker 11: And I went, what?
32:54
Speaker 1: He said, I want you to be the good guy.
32:56
Speaker 1: You're Jackal's best friend. And I went, you're kidding me.
33:00
Speaker 2: And he said, no. And then I got really paranoid
33:02
Speaker 2: because I... Didn't know how to play a good guy.
33:05
Speaker 16: Do I remember how to do that?
33:06
Speaker 2: It was like, how the fuck do I play a
33:07
Speaker 2: good guy? And it was probably the worst movie I've
33:10
Speaker 2: ever done because.
33:11
Speaker 1: It was like all really stilted, like looking like a
33:15
Speaker 1: deer caught in the headlights.
33:16
Speaker 2: Like every time I turned around and I was like, crap. But,
33:20
Speaker 2: you know, I got used to it because I think
33:22
Speaker 2: the thing.
33:22
Speaker 1: About being the villain is you never put yourself into
33:25
Speaker 1: it unless you're an asshole.
33:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course you are then.
33:28
Speaker 1: You know, you're, it's, it's, apart from you, so it's
33:33
Speaker 1: much easier to portray. When you play a good guy,
33:36
Speaker 1: there's a certain amount of you has to be in
33:38
Speaker 1: that character. And that's scary, because you're showing vulnerability to people,
33:43
Speaker 1: and most people don't want to do that. So you
33:45
Speaker 1: sort of back off a little bit from it. But
33:48
Speaker 1: after a while, you get used to it. And now,
33:51
Speaker 1: I love doing both. I enjoy it.
33:54
Speaker 2: I just finished a film in Australia called Nowhere Else,
33:58
Speaker 2: which is a horror movie.
33:59
Speaker 3: Yeah.
34:00
Speaker 2: And the way they set it up, you think I
34:02
Speaker 2: am the beast, the thing that's killing people.
34:05
Speaker 1: But in actuality, I'm not. I'm the guy that's trying
34:07
Speaker 1: to kill it because I've been hunting it for 20 years.
34:10
Speaker 2: And all these.
34:12
Speaker 1: Kids come along that get killed. And the way I
34:15
Speaker 1: react to them is not because I want to kill them.
34:18
Speaker 1: It's because I don't want them fucking around me because
34:21
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get this thing and kill it. So
34:24
Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun because, you know, it's kind
34:26
Speaker 1: of the character's got a little dark side to him
34:28
Speaker 1: and he's kind of very sort of laconic.
34:32
Speaker 2: Which is a little bit like me.
34:34
Speaker 1: And then I came back to the States and played
34:38
Speaker 1: one of the most terrific villains I've played for a while.
34:42
Speaker 1: I have a scene in it where I shoot this
34:44
Speaker 1: woman's daughter through the head while I'm staring into her eye.
34:46
Speaker 1: Not the daughter's, the mother's eye talking to her.
34:48
Speaker 2: And I got the gun like that.
34:50
Speaker 8: Wow.
34:50
Speaker 2: And she's saying, please don't do it. And I go.
34:54
Speaker 2: I think I might. No, please don't do it. Ah,
34:57
Speaker 2: fuck it.
34:58
Speaker 1: Just shoot her daughter in the head. And yet, you
35:02
Speaker 1: also see him as a family man. He's got these
35:06
Speaker 1: sides to him which is really sick. And he gets
35:10
Speaker 1: so pissed off when his wife gets killed. You know,
35:14
Speaker 1: it's like the end of the world. How dare they
35:16
Speaker 1: do that to him? He's just gone around killing people,
35:18
Speaker 1: but that's different, you see?
35:20
Speaker 2: Now it's his. So it's a really... dark, strange characters.
35:24
Speaker 2: So I'm getting to play a lot of off-the-wall characters now,
35:28
Speaker 2: more than the straight, you know, black and white, which
35:32
Speaker 2: I love.
35:33
Speaker 16: You've had some off-the-wall characters. There were a few I
35:36
Speaker 16: think we wanted to get to, you know. Do we
35:39
Speaker 16: have the Commando questions?
35:41
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what.
35:43
Speaker 6: I loved Commando as a kid.
35:45
Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
35:46
Speaker 6: You're a great villain in that.
35:48
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
35:49
Speaker 12: Um.
35:51
Speaker 6: Very typical villain, but you could tell that weren't quite
35:56
Speaker 6: right up in the head. I think that was a
35:58
Speaker 6: very good job. My question was, the chainmail vest was awesome.
36:06
Speaker 6: Did you bring that to the character, or did they say,
36:08
Speaker 6: you need to wear this?
36:10
Speaker 2: Two things.
36:12
Speaker 1: Number one, I got cast into that film three weeks
36:14
Speaker 1: after it started shooting. Originally I went and saw the
36:17
Speaker 1: director when Joel Silver asked me to and the director
36:20
Speaker 1: didn't want me to do it because he said I'd
36:22
Speaker 1: do it too much like Wes. So they cast somebody
36:25
Speaker 1: else and he was a method actor and apparently he
36:29
Speaker 1: started driving Arnold insane by banging on his trailer door,
36:32
Speaker 1: writing things on his mirror, messing up his clothes, all this.
36:37
Speaker 2: Kind of shit. And finally Arnold just, you know... blew the.
36:41
Speaker 1: Gasket and told Joel it was him or the other guy.
36:44
Speaker 1: And then Joel rang me in Australia and said, get
36:46
Speaker 1: your ass over here. So I really walked into his costume.
36:51
Speaker 1: They didn't have time to really make a costume. The
36:54
Speaker 1: second thing was it wasn't a chain mail vest. It's
36:57
Speaker 1: called a stoker's vest. And don't ask me how I
37:00
Speaker 1: know this because I have no fucking idea. No, there's
37:04
Speaker 1: a group in England called the Bennett Club. And there's
37:09
Speaker 1: all these guys that dress up like Bennett. And they
37:12
Speaker 1: have these conventions, Bennett conventions. Some people just have way
37:18
Speaker 1: too much time on their hands. And I was talking
37:21
Speaker 1: to them at one stage on the Internet. And I said,
37:26
Speaker 1: where are you going to get your chain mail vests?
37:29
Speaker 1: And they wrote back to me and they said, it's
37:30
Speaker 1: not chain mail. It's actually called a Stoker's vest. And
37:33
Speaker 1: what a Stoker's vest was, was in the First and
37:35
Speaker 1: Second World War. the English stokers in the bowels of
37:40
Speaker 1: the ship that put all the coal into the furnace
37:43
Speaker 1: wore these vests that were made out of wool. And
37:46
Speaker 1: the reason they were made out of wool was that
37:48
Speaker 1: they breathed and they had the open weave, so the
37:52
Speaker 1: air went through, kept them cool. When they were sweating,
37:56
Speaker 1: the wool absorbed all of the moisture, so that when
38:00
Speaker 1: things came out of the sparks and flames and shit
38:03
Speaker 1: came out of the furnace, they didn't get burned. They
38:05
Speaker 1: didn't burn, yeah.
38:07
Speaker 11: Cool.
38:07
Speaker 2: And they're usually brown.
38:10
Speaker 1: Or black, and they sprayed it silver to make it
38:13
Speaker 1: look like it was chain mail. Somebody asked me today,
38:15
Speaker 1: they went, God, you must be pretty bloody strong to
38:17
Speaker 1: walk around that all day. Yeah, I weighed about, like,
38:20
Speaker 1: 12 ounces. I was really strong.
38:25
Speaker 6: Well, you know, I was a kid watching it.
38:28
Speaker 2: I just fucked up, you feel me?
38:32
Speaker 16: Oh, he's ruined your whole childhood.
38:33
Speaker 11: I know.
38:35
Speaker 2: So they called you on that.
38:37
Speaker 11: They told you what the vest was.
38:39
Speaker 3: Yep.
38:40
Speaker 16: Those are hardcore geeks. They'll argue with you.
38:43
Speaker 1: I mean, I went on to that commandofans.com site. and
38:50
Speaker 1: went into the Bennett page and just sat there and went,
38:53
Speaker 1: you have got to be fucking kidding.
38:56
Speaker 16: Oh, that's hilarious.
38:57
Speaker 2: Seriously. I'm going to have to see that just to
38:59
Speaker 2: go laugh at it.
39:00
Speaker 3: Oh, man.
39:01
Speaker 2: It is like people have way too much time on
39:03
Speaker 2: their hands. Oh, yeah. When people can take movie posters
39:07
Speaker 2: from all kinds of movies and recreate them with me
39:10
Speaker 2: and Arnold. You know, you've got way too much time
39:13
Speaker 2: on your hands. But, I mean, it's fun.
39:17
Speaker 1: Because I think it's really cool that people want to
39:20
Speaker 1: do it in the first place, that they like you
39:24
Speaker 1: enough as an actor to want to do.
39:25
Speaker 2: That kind of thing.
39:28
Speaker 1: But I always look at it and I go, seriously
39:31
Speaker 1: dude I'm a little bit like Captain Kirk in that
39:35
Speaker 1: respect you know get a day.
39:38
Speaker 2: Job get a girlfriend yeah it's.
39:40
Speaker 1: Just a bloody movie but you know I think it's
39:44
Speaker 1: really cool that people like it that much and I
39:48
Speaker 1: mean Road Warrior with spawning so many movies that are
39:55
Speaker 1: based on what the characters are, I think is really cool.
39:59
Speaker 1: And Michael Jackson wearing his gloves that I wore in
40:02
Speaker 1: the movie. I started a lot of trends. That was scary.
40:07
Speaker 1: What can I say?
40:09
Speaker 16: There were a few other off-the-wall ones. I recently watched
40:13
Speaker 16: Circuitry Man.
40:14
Speaker 2: Ah, my Circuitry Man.
40:16
Speaker 11: The plughead.
40:16
Speaker 12: How do you.
40:18
Speaker 16: get into the character of plughead.
40:21
Speaker 1: Plughead was fun it really was i actually jim metzler
40:25
Speaker 1: the star of the film yeah he uh was a
40:28
Speaker 1: friend of mine and they had the lovey brothers had
40:32
Speaker 1: interviewed me for the role of um the circuitry dude
40:38
Speaker 1: and um they decided that was going to cost them
40:41
Speaker 1: way too much money so they didn't go forward with
40:44
Speaker 1: it and I was talking to Jim one day, and
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Speaker 1: he said, it's a shame, we could have worked together.
40:48
Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, I guess I didn't do a
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Speaker 1: good audition. He said, no, it had nothing to do
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Speaker 1: with that. They didn't think they could afford you.
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Speaker 2: And I went, what? Did they fucking ask me? And
40:58
Speaker 2: he said, well, no. I said, yeah, I've got a
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Speaker 2: copy of the script. And he said, yeah, so I
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Speaker 2: read the script.
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Speaker 1: And then I rang him up and virtually went in
41:05
Speaker 1: and sat on their desk and gave them an ultimatum,
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Speaker 1: you know.
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Speaker 2: Put me in the movie or I'm going to kick
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Speaker 2: your asses, so.
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Speaker 1: They decided that having their asses kicked by Wes wasn't
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Speaker 1: a real smart move, so I got the movie.
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Speaker 2: But it was fun. I mean, I don't know. If
41:21
Speaker 2: you enjoy it.
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Speaker 1: It's just there. I can't be one of these actors
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Speaker 1: that has to get into the character and live it.
41:34
Speaker 1: It just doesn't come for me. I just have to
41:37
Speaker 1: be there in the moment and do it in the moment.
41:40
Speaker 1: When I'm not on set, I'm giving the crew such
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Speaker 1: a hard time or I'm trying to bang the co-star
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Speaker 1: or something. I don't give a shit about the character.
41:47
Speaker 1: It's when I get back in front of that camera
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Speaker 1: and the director says, action, that's when I work. I
41:53
Speaker 1: can never kind of get into that thing of walking
41:57
Speaker 1: around in costume and being the character and nobody can
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Speaker 1: talk to me, nobody can look at me. It's like,
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Speaker 1: you've got to be kidding me. That's not the way
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Speaker 1: I work, but God bless those that do it.
42:06
Speaker 11: They can.
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Speaker 1: And I worked with a guy in a beautiful movie
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Speaker 1: that I did called Circleman, which was about a retarded boxer.
42:16
Speaker 2: And there was a scene in it where he's beaten
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Speaker 2: to death and he's.
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Speaker 1: Dying and I've got him in my arms and I'm
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Speaker 1: rocking him and I'm crying while he's dying and talking
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Speaker 1: to him. And it was an emotional scene, so I'm
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Speaker 1: getting a little, I'm holding him a little tighter. In
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Speaker 1: the middle of the scene, I mean, this is a
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Speaker 1: really heavy scene. This is a really heavy scene. He goes, cut, cut.
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Speaker 1: And everybody, including the director, is like.
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Speaker 9: What the fuck?
42:44
Speaker 2: And the director said, what's wrong?
42:45
Speaker 7: What's wrong?
42:46
Speaker 1: And he said, he's holding me too tight. It's like, okay,
42:52
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2: Shit, I shouldn't act.
42:53
Speaker 1: Maybe I should have just dropped you on your fucking head.
42:58
Speaker 2: But it's that thing, you know, because you're not supposed to.
43:02
Speaker 1: And if you do a rehearsal a certain way and
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Speaker 1: then Because to me, rehearsals are to figure out what
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Speaker 1: I'm doing.
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Speaker 2: They're not for me to rehearse anything.
43:11
Speaker 1: I want to know where the camera is, where the
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Speaker 1: other actors are going to be, where the props are,
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Speaker 1: where I can walk, where I can do shit, what
43:17
Speaker 1: can I do to make the scene work better. Then
43:20
Speaker 1: when they say action, I do all of that. Can't
43:23
Speaker 1: do it when you work with one of those dipshits
43:25
Speaker 1: because if you go and do something you didn't do
43:28
Speaker 1: in the rehearsal, they freak out totally because they can't
43:30
Speaker 1: work like that.
43:32
Speaker 2: Like... So yeah... I have my issues.
43:37
Speaker 16: Yeah. Actor-y actors.
43:42
Speaker 2: Yes, little scumbags.
43:44
Speaker 8: Well, I couldn't not mention, there are several people on
43:47
Speaker 8: the show that are really big fans of Space Truckers.
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Speaker 2: Ah, Space Truckers.
43:53
Speaker 8: I mean, that's Dennis Hopper alone. I mean, that role is, oh, man.
43:57
Speaker 8: I just didn't know what the shoot was working on
43:59
Speaker 8: that one.
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Speaker 2: It was fun.
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Speaker 1: We were actually in Island. shooting it and i had
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Speaker 1: a ball i had a real and the funny thing
44:09
Speaker 1: was that i went in for the audition and they
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Speaker 1: really didn't have a role for me but i know
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Speaker 1: stewart gordon pretty well i've done two or three films
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Speaker 1: for stewart and the first time i ever auditioned for
44:22
Speaker 1: stewart i actually threw him through a wall and he
44:27
Speaker 1: wrote a character into his film because i think he
44:29
Speaker 1: was scared of me um And he wrote a character
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Speaker 1: into the film.
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Speaker 2: You know, it was five or six scenes and I
44:36
Speaker 2: had this great death scene and we did all these.
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Speaker 1: I was shooting it in Australia and he said to
44:44
Speaker 1: me that the death was written to take three seconds
44:48
Speaker 1: and between the star and myself we managed to linger
44:51
Speaker 1: it for three and a half minutes. And he was like,
44:54
Speaker 1: I don't fucking believe it. It's a three second scene
44:57
Speaker 1: and you two could make it last for three and
44:59
Speaker 1: a half minutes because we did all this shit and
45:02
Speaker 1: We just had fun with it. It was a cool
45:08
Speaker 1: little movie.
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Speaker 16: It's very underrated.
45:11
Speaker 2: Space Truckers was fun. I actually have one of the
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Speaker 2: square pigs.
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Speaker 16: See, that's one of the key moments.
45:16
Speaker 2: I got the square pig.
45:18
Speaker 15: Nice.
45:19
Speaker 1: I mean, the funniest thing that happened there was they
45:21
Speaker 1: were shooting another film two studios down and they had
45:24
Speaker 1: this huge big tank of water.
45:28
Speaker 3: And....
45:30
Speaker 1: Somebody dropped something in the tank. It wasn't very big,
45:33
Speaker 1: but they dropped something in the tank and the whole
45:34
Speaker 1: tank exploded. And something like 120,000 gallons of water came.
45:40
Speaker 1: Like a little mini tsunami. And we were all like,
45:46
Speaker 1: why is there a foot of water on the floor?
45:49
Speaker 1: Sort of everything got wet. But it was fun. I mean,
45:52
Speaker 1: I had a ball doing it. I loved my character.
45:54
Speaker 1: Stuart let me decide what I wanted to be.
45:57
Speaker 3: Great.
45:58
Speaker 2: Tattoo and all.
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Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 16: Did you have new stuff coming out that you wanted
46:03
Speaker 16: to tell people about?
46:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that was the Nowhere Else, which is the
46:07
Speaker 1: horror movie, which is about things called cryptid bats. It's
46:12
Speaker 1: actually a really cool movie. That's coming out. I've got
46:16
Speaker 1: another film called, it's called The Pod, I believe. I
46:22
Speaker 1: thought it was going to be called Alien Hunger, You
46:24
Speaker 1: Are What You Eat. but it's a kind of sci-fi
46:27
Speaker 1: horror alien movie, which is coming out as well.
46:33
Speaker 2: And 10,000 Zombie Heads. I think there's two others too
46:39
Speaker 2: that I've done.
46:39
Speaker 1: And I've got, oh, The Lackey, which there's like four
46:43
Speaker 1: films that I'm actually doing sequels to.
46:44
Speaker 2: I'm doing a sequel to The.
46:45
Speaker 1: Lackey, a sequel to another film I did about two
46:49
Speaker 1: years ago called Dead Undead. It's a vampire movie about
46:53
Speaker 1: good vampires who chase down the bad vampires. We're doing
46:57
Speaker 1: a sequel to that and doing the sequel to Nowhere Else. So, yeah,
47:03
Speaker 1: I don't stop working, which I think is great because
47:06
Speaker 1: I have more fun now than I had. I think
47:08
Speaker 1: I've grown into myself. One of the directors I work
47:10
Speaker 1: with a lot said to me, he said he thinks
47:14
Speaker 1: I've just grown into myself. I now inhabit my body.
47:19
Speaker 1: Whereas before, I was kind of a scattered little shit.
47:21
Speaker 1: I was everywhere, off the fucking ceiling. I was like,
47:24
Speaker 1: get him down. Now I'm a lot more happy with
47:30
Speaker 1: who I am.
47:31
Speaker 16: You mentioned directing. Do you want to get back into directing?
47:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could be directing a film early next.
47:40
Speaker 2: Year if I'm lucky.
47:41
Speaker 1: A film that I wrote, which is with funding sources
47:45
Speaker 1: at the moment. They've said nice things. So, you know,
47:49
Speaker 1: you never know. I love directing.
47:50
Speaker 2: It's fun. Because I get to play God. And I
47:53
Speaker 2: get to say, hey, fucker, do it this way.
47:55
Speaker 1: Instead of having them saying that to me.
47:59
Speaker 2: It's like, hey, dipshit, over here.
48:02
Speaker 8: Is there somewhere online you want to send them to
48:04
Speaker 8: your website? Or where's the best place to keep up with?
48:07
Speaker 8: Because you've got a lot of projects going.
48:10
Speaker 2: Keep up with me. Yeah, local police station. That's a
48:13
Speaker 2: pretty good place to keep up with me.
48:14
Speaker 3: Yeah.
48:14
Speaker 1: Also, back of toilet doors in parks, there's always something
48:18
Speaker 1: written about me.
48:19
Speaker 2: Stay out of the park. You can always find out
48:23
Speaker 2: what I'm doing. Facebook, I get my fan page done
48:26
Speaker 2: because Facebook threw me off. Oh, really? Everywhere you go.
48:31
Speaker 2: Too many people. They just shut it down.
48:34
Speaker 10: Nice.
48:34
Speaker 2: I had so many Facebook fans or whatever the fuck
48:39
Speaker 2: they're called.
48:39
Speaker 15: Yeah.
48:41
Speaker 1: And so they shut it down. So now I've got
48:42
Speaker 1: to put up a fan page and it's like, then
48:46
Speaker 1: I've got to get every way to transfer to the
48:48
Speaker 1: fan page. It's like, Jesus, why don't, if they had
48:52
Speaker 1: something on their dumbass site where all you had.
48:55
Speaker 2: To do was click on your.
48:57
Speaker 16: Transfer them over.
48:58
Speaker 1: And just transfer them over. It would be so cool,
49:00
Speaker 1: but no. And it's the same thing as when you
49:03
Speaker 1: want to do a blast, you know, if you've got
49:04
Speaker 1: a film or something like here. And you want to
49:07
Speaker 1: send it out to your fans and just say, hey,
49:09
Speaker 1: if you're in the area, come say hi. You've got
49:12
Speaker 1: to go down and tick them one at a time.
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Speaker 1: I've got 6,000 fucking people on my Facebook. You think
49:18
Speaker 1: I'm going to sit there and tick 6,000 names? It
49:20
Speaker 1: isn't going to happen.
49:22
Speaker 2: You'd think that they would have this little button that
49:24
Speaker 2: just click all and it goes out. No, because that's
49:27
Speaker 2: too easy.
49:28
Speaker 16: We need to get a hold of Facebook. You can
49:30
Speaker 16: just shake them until they fix everything.
49:33
Speaker 2: Shake them.
49:34
Speaker 5: They'll sit on their desk.
49:35
Speaker 2: In time to fix it.
49:38
Speaker 16: I think that was it. Unless you have anything else
49:40
Speaker 16: to get out there. I think that was it.
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Speaker 11: All right.
49:43
Speaker 16: Well, thank you for talking to me.
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Speaker 1: Anybody that's 5'10, tall, female, large boobs, blonde hair, blue eyes,
49:50
Speaker 1: does not know the meaning of the word no, I
49:53
Speaker 1: can give you my phone number.
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Speaker 16: We shall pass that along. Thank you for talking to me.
49:59
Speaker 2: My pleasure.
50:19
Speaker 3: From Ohio to New Zealand Tomatoes, if I'm the kid
50:23
Speaker 3: They do the best, do what they can To get
50:29
Speaker 3: them ready for the end.
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Speaker 7: First Root, ayy! Got lots of Germany Second Root, ayy!
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Speaker 9: Be nice to my army Third Root, ayy!
50:49
Speaker 7: We'll be right back.
51:12
Speaker 12: Yes, folks, it's intermission time.
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Speaker 2: So how about taking a break?
51:16
Speaker 14: Get out and stretch a little and relax before the
51:19
Speaker 14: show begins again.
51:22
Speaker 16: Are you still looking for that special someone?
51:24
Speaker 7: Have other dating websites let you down?
51:27
Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Craig Fritz-Rualdo.
51:29
Speaker 7: We've all got quirks.
51:30
Speaker 2: I've got them.
51:31
Speaker 7: You've got them, Dave.
51:32
Speaker 11: That's what makes this character so, so compelling.
51:34
Speaker 8: Ah!
51:58
Speaker 11: Thumbs up from me, same here.
52:04
Speaker 13: This is Dean Cameron, also known as Chainsaw, and you're
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Speaker 13: listening to Movie Meltdown.
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Speaker 2: I'm Chainsaw.
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Speaker 11: I'm Dave.
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Speaker 3: We'll see you at the movies.
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Speaker 9: It's part of your problem, you know.
52:28
Speaker 11: You haven't seen enough movies.
52:29
Speaker 13: All of life's riddles are answered in the movies.
52:32
Speaker 12: And now, on with the show.
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Speaker 10: All right, so you were pleased with your time with Vernon, Fred?
53:07
Speaker 11: Yeah, I didn't have a lot to say. He seemed to,
53:10
Speaker 11: you know, like he would take something and run with it,
53:12
Speaker 11: and it always sort of went the same way. It
53:14
Speaker 11: was always like he didn't want to do something, he
53:20
Speaker 11: did it, and it was pretty crazy.
53:23
Speaker 8: Yeah, I had questions that I didn't really even get
53:26
Speaker 8: to because he kind of answered them his own way.
53:28
Speaker 11: Sounds like he'd done some interviews before, maybe.
53:32
Speaker 8: I think so, probably. But yeah, still, he was really
53:36
Speaker 8: fun and has been really cool. I've actually run into
53:39
Speaker 8: him like two or three other times, as we mentioned earlier,
53:42
Speaker 8: this weekend. And he actually remembers me and is talking
53:45
Speaker 8: to me again and talking to me about people we
53:46
Speaker 8: know in common.
53:47
Speaker 11: He kind of is sort of a badass, but he's
53:50
Speaker 11: like real friendly. Yeah, he was a nice guy.
53:54
Speaker 8: He was really cool to talk to and has been
53:56
Speaker 8: really great since then. So, yeah, he's a cool guy.
53:59
Speaker 8: If you run into him out in the world there,
54:01
Speaker 8: go say hello because he's very cool. Otherwise, that may
54:06
Speaker 8: be enough for this week. We've still got a lot
54:07
Speaker 8: more stuff coming this weekend. I don't know.
54:12
Speaker 10: We've recorded many, many things.
54:13
Speaker 8: So since we know we've got something coming up, I
54:17
Speaker 8: think we'll throw that out there for you kids at home.
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Speaker 10: Okay, kids, get out your decoder pins.
54:23
Speaker 11: Wah, wah, wah.
54:25
Speaker 10: It's a special fanfare.
54:27
Speaker 8: For you members of the Secret Circle. It is time
54:29
Speaker 8: for the Movie Meltdown Secret Circle reveal of the next
54:31
Speaker 8: exciting feature.
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Speaker 10: And this one we will. It is going to be
54:34
Speaker 10: pretty cool.
54:35
Speaker 8: We've got a special guest co-host, and they brought somebody in,
54:38
Speaker 8: so we've got a couple extra people on board. But
54:41
Speaker 8: if nothing else, the movie itself is pretty damn interesting.
54:44
Speaker 8: We are going to be discussing the film Man Bites Dog,
54:48
Speaker 8: which is quite... an interesting movie and it had been
54:52
Speaker 8: a long time since I'd seen it. So going back
54:54
Speaker 8: and reviewing it, it's as we always find is an
54:57
Speaker 8: entirely different experience. So yeah, we will see how that
55:01
Speaker 8: comes out when we all sit down and talk about
55:02
Speaker 8: man bites dog. So otherwise I think that about does
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Speaker 8: it for this week. So we will return next week.
55:09
Speaker 8: Same geek time, same geek feed.
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Speaker 10: Thanks for listening.
55:22
Speaker 4: I met a strange lady, she made me nervous She
55:35
Speaker 4: took me in and gave me breakfast And she said,
55:39
Speaker 4: do you come from a land down.
55:41
Speaker 9: Under Where men go and men fall.
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Speaker 7: In love.
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Speaker 17: Can't you hear, can't.
55:53
Speaker 7: You hear the thunder You.
55:58
Speaker 9: Better run, you better take cover.
56:04
Speaker 17: Flying back from a man in Brussels Six.
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Speaker 7: Foot four and full of muscle I said, do you
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Speaker 7: speak my language? He just smiled and gave me a
56:21
Speaker 7: Vegemite sandwich.
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Speaker 10: He said, I come from.
56:25
Speaker 7: A land of love.
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Speaker 17: It has no one mentioned love. Can you hear, can
56:32
Speaker 17: you hear the thunder? You better run.
56:38
Speaker 7: You better take cover.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
56:53
Speaker 9: Lionel, a gentleman by my side.
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Speaker 7: With a slack jaw, not much to say.
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Speaker 17: I said to the man, are you trying to tempt me?
57:21
Speaker 7: Because I come from the land of love.
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Speaker 9: And he said, oh, you come from a land of love. Yeah.
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Speaker 17: Women love.
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Speaker 7: You'd better run, you'd.
57:42
Speaker 9: Better take cover You'd better run, you'd better take cover.
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Speaker 7: Oh, yeah. Better run, better take cover. Oh, yeah.
58:20
Speaker 9: Better run, better take cover.
58:39
Speaker 11: Mr.
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Speaker 3: Wells. Yes.
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Speaker 2: That's my father, by the way. I'm burning.
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Speaker 16: Thank you so much, everybody.
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Speaker 2: It works there.
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Speaker 11: Thank you.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I like it.
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Speaker 2: And it works, by the way. Oh, nice. Just so
58:52
Speaker 2: you know.
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Speaker 7: You've now lost.
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Speaker 10: Yes.
58:54
Speaker 2: You've now lost. Now I am shamed before my woman.
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Speaker 7: Talk hard!