Latest / Earn Your Leisure / Study Hall: THE BEST PLACES TO BUY REAL ESTATE IN 2023
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- 0:30Speaker 4: If I were looking to make money today, I'd be
- 0:32Speaker 4: looking to go into markets where there was a demand,
- 0:36Speaker 4: an unmet demand for apartments for example, rental housing or
- 0:40Speaker 4: single family housing and buying some houses and renting them out.
- 0:43Speaker 4: I'd be going to places like Fort Worth, Texas, Dallas, Texas, Nattisdale, Nashville,
- 0:49Speaker 4: you know, I think, you know, I think Jacksonville, Tampa,
- 0:53Speaker 4: you know, Tucson, Arizona. I mean places where it's tax friendly,
- 0:59Speaker 4: high quality life, and more businesses have moved there. One
- 1:02Speaker 4: of the things that's going to happen and is happening now,
- 1:04Speaker 4: especially with remote working, is the businesses are relocating out
- 1:09Speaker 4: of places like Chicago, out of New York City out
- 1:13Speaker 4: of DC, for example, as well, because and out of
- 1:16Speaker 4: LA because taxes are so high. Yes, and so they
- 1:20Speaker 4: can save a significant amount of taxes. If you're in
- 1:23Speaker 4: an environment where a tax rate thirteen percent, you go
- 1:25Speaker 4: down to Miami, you get better weather, and it's zero
- 1:28Speaker 4: local income tax, a state income tax.
- 1:30Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. As far as you know,
- 1:32Speaker 1: we talk about real estate a lot on our platform,
- 1:34Speaker 1: how to invest in real estate, but we don't only
- 1:37Speaker 1: talk about real estate development too much. And there's nobody
- 1:40Speaker 1: talk about that better than you. So somebody's interested in
- 1:43Speaker 1: becoming a real estate developer, what steps should they take? Like,
- 1:47Speaker 1: what advice could you give to somebody that's interested on
- 1:49Speaker 1: the development zone.
- 1:50Speaker 4: I mean one of them, I would say, become a
- 1:53Speaker 4: student of the business. Learn the business, learn the fundamentals.
- 1:56Speaker 4: What I learned about where I got started was I
- 1:58Speaker 4: started as a sales agent, so I understood how to market.
- 2:01Speaker 4: I learned how to market, and then I became an appraiser,
- 2:05Speaker 4: so I learned how to estimate value. So if I
- 2:07Speaker 4: figured if I could estimate value, I could go out
- 2:09Speaker 4: and create value. And so those are the things that
- 2:14Speaker 4: you know. You get started by learning the fundamentals of
- 2:17Speaker 4: the business. You don't have to be an you can
- 2:19Speaker 4: be a contractor too, but you don't have to be
- 2:21Speaker 4: an engineer. You don't have to be a finance major.
- 2:25Speaker 4: You can understand the basic fundamentals of real estate, which
- 2:28Speaker 4: is marketing and understanding value. And you make your money
- 2:31Speaker 4: in real estate going in when you buy real estate,
- 2:33Speaker 4: you make the money then and you realize your profit
- 2:37Speaker 4: which you bother that, yeah, exactly, and then you can
- 2:40Speaker 4: go in and create value. So with development is all you.
- 2:42Speaker 1: Talk about that as far as making your money on the.
- 2:44Speaker 4: Front, absolutely, So you want to buy if you think
- 2:47Speaker 4: about this, imagine real estate is a twelve hour clock.
- 2:52Speaker 4: The ultimate time to sell is twelve o'clock. So from
- 2:56Speaker 4: about one o'clock until four or so, you want to
- 2:59Speaker 4: be kicked back in a spectator then around four, so
- 3:03Speaker 4: you start looking for the opportunities and then you start buying,
- 3:06Speaker 4: and you buy all the way up to about nine
- 3:08Speaker 4: o'clock and then at that point you start looking to sell.
- 3:13Speaker 4: So if you buy and you want to buy when
- 3:15Speaker 4: fewer people are buying and it's.
- 3:16Speaker 1: Hard to buy, what time are we at right now? Oh?
- 3:19Speaker 4: I think that we're probably at about three o'clock at
- 3:22Speaker 4: three o'clock three, And look, I think that the thing
- 3:26Speaker 4: is is that there's opportunities everywhere. So I remember back
- 3:31Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety one ninety two, during the junk buying crises,
- 3:37Speaker 4: you know, banks were failing, they were closing. In nineteen
- 3:42Speaker 4: eighty nine, there were three hundred and some odd banks
- 3:46Speaker 4: closed in one year, and then in nineteen ninety another
- 3:51Speaker 4: three hundred banks closed. So they were liquidating all kinds
- 3:54Speaker 4: of assets. So I started buying assets in downtown DC,
- 3:58Speaker 4: and I was buying stuff twenty cents on the dollar
- 4:01Speaker 4: or so. And my view was, I didn't need all
- 4:05Speaker 4: kinds of you know, scientific charts. I didn't need any
- 4:08Speaker 4: kind of real calculation. I felt that the nation's capital,
- 4:11Speaker 4: of the most powerful nation in the world would come
- 4:14Speaker 4: back at some point or the money wouldn't be worth
- 4:16Speaker 4: anything anyway. So I loaded up and bought everything I could,
- 4:19Speaker 4: and that twenty cents on the dollar. When I started
- 4:23Speaker 4: selling at eighty cents on the dollar, nine cents on
- 4:26Speaker 4: the dollar, I was making four or five times what
- 4:28Speaker 4: I paid. And if you leverage it, then you're making
- 4:32Speaker 4: you know, six hundred times what she made.
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- 7:26Speaker 6: Pleas flapping out for that. I have a two parter
- 7:29Speaker 6: for you. I'm sure the audience wants to know. Number one,
- 7:33Speaker 6: what are the five cities in case they missing? Because
- 7:35Speaker 6: I'm sure if somebody was on Instagram sending a DM
- 7:38Speaker 6: chant that this should be here, right. So what are
- 7:40Speaker 6: the five cities you would have us invest in? And
- 7:42Speaker 6: let's say hypothetically I had like five thousand amazing friends,
- 7:45Speaker 6: double investors. How can we put our money together to
- 7:49Speaker 6: get in some of these commercial deals so we can
- 7:51Speaker 6: build wealth together.
- 7:52Speaker 4: Well, I think the first thing is where I would
- 7:54Speaker 4: be investing. Is I like Florida because it's got strong fundamentals,
- 7:57Speaker 4: no state income taxing economy and a good quality of
- 8:03Speaker 4: life overall. So Miami's very stimulated. So you got to
- 8:08Speaker 4: look beyond that. So what are the emerging cities in
- 8:10Speaker 4: Florida and that's Jacksonville and Tampa. Those are the two
- 8:13Speaker 4: strongest markets in that PA.
- 8:15Speaker 6: Write those down.
- 8:16Speaker 4: Then if I were going to go Texas, great fundamentals,
- 8:19Speaker 4: no state income tax, decent, pretty good weather overall, and
- 8:23Speaker 4: very business friendly. But Austin has been on fire. So
- 8:28Speaker 4: where do you go. You go to Dallas and you
- 8:29Speaker 4: go to Fort Worth. Those markets are still you know, growing,
- 8:34Speaker 4: and they're underserved.
- 8:35Speaker 2: Uh.
- 8:35Speaker 4: And then Arizona, Scottsdale, Phoenix has always done very well,
- 8:39Speaker 4: Tucson sleeper. I'd go there, and then Nashville and Memphis.
- 8:44Speaker 4: No state income tax in Tennessee quite as it's kept
- 8:47Speaker 4: and uh. And then you know, look, I'll tell you
- 8:50Speaker 4: how strong state in no state income taxes are. When
- 8:53Speaker 4: Jeff Bezos started Amazon, he did it in Seattle, Washington.
- 8:58Speaker 4: Bill Gates always stayed of residency Seattle, washingtcause Washington State
- 9:02Speaker 4: has no state income tax. But those would be the
- 9:04Speaker 4: markets that I would focus on. And I would look
- 9:05Speaker 4: real hard at LA because I think that LA bounces back.
- 9:08Speaker 4: It's a resilient market. It's you know, it's a it's
- 9:12Speaker 4: got an industry that is going to run in perpetuity.
- 9:15Speaker 4: The entertainment industry and it's got technology, and then New York.
- 9:19Speaker 4: But I would say New York is real early right now,
- 9:22Speaker 4: so I'd be waiting on New York. And look, I
- 9:24Speaker 4: think that you know, one of the things that we
- 9:26Speaker 4: have been looking at is how do we empower people,
- 9:31Speaker 4: especially people of color, to be able to reap the
- 9:35Speaker 4: benefits of economic growth through real estate on a larger scale.
- 9:41Speaker 4: And just to give you a sense, this analogy I
- 9:44Speaker 4: gave where I put up the twenty million and a
- 9:47Speaker 4: Goldman's access someone put up one hundred and eighty to
- 9:50Speaker 4: do a five hundred million dollar building. Well, our buildings
- 9:54Speaker 4: generally are going to make somewhere of about forty to
- 9:57Speaker 4: fifty percent return on cost. So say that it made
- 10:00Speaker 4: fifty percent return on cost after we developed it and stabilized,
- 10:04Speaker 4: that's two hundred and fifty million profit. Well, the way
- 10:07Speaker 4: that would work is that we'd get about half that,
- 10:09Speaker 4: So we would get one hundred and twenty five million
- 10:12Speaker 4: on that twenty million dollar investment. And so you can
- 10:15Speaker 4: do the math on that. It's over a six hundred
- 10:18Speaker 4: percent return on our money. So that's all about leverage.
- 10:22Speaker 6: So no clapping up for that because six hundred percent
- 10:26Speaker 6: return is incredible. I know most people think there are
- 10:28Speaker 6: not a lot of big gangs in real estate, but
- 10:30Speaker 6: thank you for mentioning that.
- 10:31Speaker 4: Yeah, so so it used to be back in the
- 10:35Speaker 4: nineteen eighties, real estate. Commercial real estate was powered, especially
- 10:40Speaker 4: office buildings and hotels, were powered by real estate syndicators.
- 10:45Speaker 4: So real estate syndicators would go out and buy an
- 10:46Speaker 4: office building, chop it up into one thousand pieces, and
- 10:50Speaker 4: sell it off in pieces, and the investors would get
- 10:53Speaker 4: the tax benefits from it, and then they would get
- 10:55Speaker 4: the rent income and the appreciation. When the banks all
- 10:59Speaker 4: failed in the late eight early nineties and the tax
- 11:03Speaker 4: law was changed in nineteen eighty six to take away
- 11:06Speaker 4: those depreciation rights and so forth, the syndicators went out
- 11:10Speaker 4: of business essentially overnight.
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