Latest / Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo / ‘Sparky’ Children’s Book on Redemption, Reflecting God
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- 0:00Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
- 0:10defending biblical Christianity.
- 0:13No topic, off limits.
- 0:16And now, here's your host, David Fierazzo.
- 0:19Hey, friends.
- 0:20Thanks for tuning into another show.
- 0:22Hope you're having a great day or night, depending on when you're watching or listening
- 0:26to our program.
- 0:27And we've got Pastor Joe Shimmel with us today.
- 0:30There's a brand new book I want to tell you about.
- 0:32And then we're going to talk about some cultural issues as well.
- 0:34And of course, Joe Shimmel has been equipping Christians with the truth of God's word for
- 0:38decades.
- 0:40He founded Good Fight Ministries in 1987.
- 0:43And he's also the senior pastor of Blessed Hope Chapel in Seamy Valley, California.
- 0:48And he has been since 1990.
- 0:50He teaches and encourages people regarding spiritual warfare and how we can react and respond
- 0:55to the powers of darkness and the name of Jesus.
- 0:57And of course, he shares important insights as they relate to either Bible prophecy, culture,
- 1:04the end times.
- 1:05And he, Joe, is also one of the reasons we want to talk to him today with all that's going
- 1:09on with the left and the enemy trying to access children and youth today.
- 1:14He's got a brand new children's book and we want to bring him on to talk about Sparky
- 1:19the Broken Mirror.
- 1:20So Joe Shimmel, welcome to World View Matters.
- 1:24Hi, brother.
- 1:25Great to be on again with you, David.
- 1:27I always love talking with you.
- 1:29Yep.
- 1:29It's great.
- 1:30So before we get to the book, Joe, some people just celebrated Halloween, not, hopefully
- 1:35not many Christians, but I know you've done a lot of shows on that.
- 1:40You've written about that.
- 1:41You've given out a lot of resources.
- 1:43There's still this level of ignorance, even in the church about the history and the
- 1:48background of Halloween and the occult influences.
- 1:51So I know that what's your whistle.
- 1:52So to speak, I wanted to give you just an opportunity to share your heart on that and
- 1:57what a lot of people have been celebrated.
- 2:00Yeah, David, we want to make sure that we're scriptural, but at the same time, not legal
- 2:03istic. So the Bible says not to go beyond the scripture, but it comes to holidays.
- 2:08There's a lot of controversy, of course, in the body of Christ and so forth.
- 2:11And I look at the scripture.
- 2:13I see sometimes there's celebrations that take place that God never sanctions.
- 2:17That aren't ungodly.
- 2:18They might celebrate someone's death or, for instance.
- 2:22So I think celebrations are great.
- 2:24I think there's holidays that are sanctioned.
- 2:26I think there's other holidays that we can celebrate that aren't mentioned in scripture,
- 2:30like we celebrate Thanksgiving.
- 2:32What an incredible holiday, you know, being thankful for the founding of,
- 2:36you know, what happened in our nation and so forth.
- 2:39But at the same time, it's biblical to be thankful.
- 2:42But the scriptures warn us not to be conformed to the evils of the world system.
- 2:46And the scripture is seen in Deuteronomy chapter 18.
- 2:50God told the Jews when they came to the land, not to imitate the pagan practice of those nations.
- 2:55So when they are coming to the land, which the Lord that God gives,
- 2:57he does not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
- 3:00There should not be found among anyone who makes a center of
- 3:02daughter pass through the fire that uses divination or observer of time or
- 3:06witch or enchanter or consult with familiar spirits and so forth.
- 3:09These things are all forbidden.
- 3:11Yet that's what Halloween is all about.
- 3:13It's a celebration from ancient Ireland.
- 3:16The Celts would basically celebrate, you know, the actually it was a foreboding time,
- 3:24not as much a celebration for many people because they believed that these demonic entities
- 3:28or the living dead, that the dead would come back and hop them,
- 3:31hence the term trick or treat.
- 3:32You know, you give them a treat to placate the spirits,
- 3:35otherwise they play a trick on you.
- 3:36And in ancient the Druids and so forth, they were fearfully spirits and they make sacrifices to them.
- 3:41Well, now we, in our day, the spirit realm hasn't disappeared.
- 3:44Satan's very real and witchcraft and Wicca and all these things are on the rise as a result of
- 3:49Halloween and many have reported that it's one day will, you know, it'll basically rise above
- 3:57Christmas as far as the main holiday celebrated the United States and that's just heartbreaking.
- 4:02Well, thanks for giving us that very quick rundown and all the things you've written about it
- 4:06and the shows you've done on it.
- 4:07It's concerning that people are still not getting.
- 4:10And it's really a counterfeit of the resurrection of Jesus Christ thinking that the living dead
- 4:15and this fascination with zombies and vampires and it's all a cult base.
- 4:20But we've got to move on, Job, because there's a couple other things I wanted to ask you about,
- 4:23including we wanted to talk a little bit about Israel and anti-Semitism.
- 4:27But first, the reason why I wanted to have you on, you have a kid's book, children's book.
- 4:31It's called Sparky the Broken Mirror and I know one of the reasons you wrote it was because
- 4:37of what's going on with the drag queen story hours and how the left and how demonic entities are
- 4:43trying to access children and indoctrinate children with evil. And I appreciate you for as a pastor
- 4:51for putting the gospel out in a book that children can relate to and kids can understand their true
- 4:57identity. So, Job, tell us about Sparky the Broken Mirror. When did you decide to write this and
- 5:04what brought this about really? Well, I was always telling my children stories and trying to share
- 5:10morals and the gospel with them, few stories. And then my grandchildren, now I'm doing that with
- 5:13them for many years now, got six of them. And an illustration I used to always use Dave when I
- 5:20would preach, I still do, is how do you find yourself? You know, because a lot of people want to
- 5:25find themselves, it comes out of the sixties, you got to, you know, they search to find themselves,
- 5:29Zen Buddhism or some occult practice. And I used the illustration of a mirror that we're creating
- 5:34God's image. And the world has, you know, spiritual amnesia, they have no idea they're creating the
- 5:39image of God. Darwinism, Satan's used that to just destroy people's understanding that we're
- 5:44creating God's image. Hence, we don't treat each other as image bearers and murder and the murder
- 5:49of the unborn and everything is so wickedly easy for the human populace. I wanted to show that we're
- 5:55creating the image of God in an illustration. So I used the fact that if an image, if a mirror was
- 6:02made by somebody, and then that mirror broke, and that mirror tried to find itself, it would never
- 6:09be able to find itself by just looking at itself or to someone else. It would have to look to the
- 6:14the one who made it. So I'd use the image of a mirror as a picture of us that we're created to reflect
- 6:19God. That's what we're supposed to be like. And so I'd use that as illustration in my messages.
- 6:25And I decided to turn that put flesh and blood on that, make it into a story. And I wanted to,
- 6:30it's to basically emulate the gospel. So in Sparky the Broken Mirror, a man, a guy named Emily
- 6:38Penaire just incredible illustrator just did a great job working with me. And I basically take
- 6:45them through the whole story of redemption. So you have creation and to teach kids discernment
- 6:51regarding the lies, because there's a lot of false teaching out there regarding our identity.
- 6:55Gender dysphoria. Since we don't understand we're creating God's image of what we're created for
- 6:59to pro-create, people are taught that, you know, that you could be maybe you're not a man, maybe
- 7:06you're really a female. If you're a female, really, maybe you're a man. And you have the transsexualism,
- 7:11you have transvestites in all this. As you mentioned, story hour, there's such confusion.
- 7:16Just be propated on our young people. So I wanted to counter that with this book. And you have
- 7:20literally scriptures at Warren and Deuteronomy. A man is not supposed to put on that which pertains
- 7:25to a woman. When was that supposed to put on that which pertains to a man? In the last days we're
- 7:29told, as you know, Dave and second Timothy three, terrible times would come and men would be without
- 7:34family love, Storgette, right? And then first Corinthians chapter six, verses nine through eleven,
- 7:39it warns that, you know, that doctor be deceived, that wicked will not inherit God's kingdom.
- 7:43And it mentions, you know, adulterers and fornicators, but homosexuals, and a feminine. And the
- 7:49Greek word for a feminine there, as Filo of Alexandria and other historians and so forth point out,
- 7:54when they used that word, how to do with man who would shave their all the hair off their bodies
- 7:58and would put on women's perfume and seek to be like women. That was happening in those days.
- 8:04And it was condemned in scripture. Yep. It has New Testament teachers, which you are Dave and
- 8:09myself. We need to have the gumption and the courage to stand up against these lies because
- 8:14this idea has infiltrated the church in mass. And a lot of pastors are sticking their finger in the
- 8:20air and say, say, which way are the political winds blowing? And they're going with them. And
- 8:25we're supposed to conform to the world. So this book, if you go through it, I mean some I encourage
- 8:30people just if they want to just go to Amazon and look at the reviews because I think there's about
- 8:3664 reviews that became an overnight bestseller, which we're incredibly thankful for. But you can read
- 8:40the reviews and see how even parents are saying they needed this book for themselves. Many of them
- 8:45talk about crime when Sparky's redeemed. So this is Broke Mayor Dave and he goes through
- 8:50gauntlet. I mean, there's six things, you know, six, you know, where he fails. First he tries to put
- 8:55himself back together, a serpent to seize him. He jumps out the wall because he's told the king is
- 8:59keeping him from being this great big star. You know, kind of a genesis like right. It's what's
- 9:02supposed to be he he crashes the ground, tries to put himself back together again. He tries to
- 9:07then he tries to climb the wall through it with a ladder. But then he goes to the doctor and a nurse.
- 9:12They give him a bandaid. It's not going to help him. They go because you know, praise God for doctors
- 9:16and nurses. My daughter, oh, one of my daughters is a nurse and praise God for them, but they can't
- 9:20heal our souls. And then he goes to a therapist who says you need to love yourself more. That doesn't
- 9:25work. He goes to a he flies the middle to the east and goes to a guru tells him to meditate on his
- 9:30belly button. That doesn't put him back together again. Then he goes to a witch and she levitates him.
- 9:34And he levitates and he falls in that last short of glasses left breaks off. And he's carrying
- 9:41around his glass in a bag with a hobo. Finally, he ends up in the, you know, the darkest depths of
- 9:46despair in the black forest. And and he's crying and and then lo and behold, man, the king comes. The
- 9:53light appears. The king comes and just puts him back together again. And the king's hands are bleeding
- 9:58as he puts him back together again, a picture of what Christ did for us and sacrificing himself to
- 10:03save us from our sins and redeem us. Then he's brought back to the heavenly palace and he's glorified.
- 10:08It's like the whole story of redemption for little kids, but also for adults because it really
- 10:13shows you a picture, a beautiful picture of the gospel. So I, if I sound excited about the book,
- 10:18I am because I really believe the Lord gave me this, this picture. And it's at the end, Dave,
- 10:24there's like four pages where I'm sorry, four captions where we, where we describe the gospel.
- 10:29Now the king is a type or a picture of Jesus. So and many, many people are just loving that because
- 10:35it's a really clear way to show their children the gospel. So we need to get these books out there
- 10:41more books like this. So thank you, Joe. I love that what you put in there, how you searching for
- 10:46other things. And I really, I saw you in that absolute. I say, Hey, here's, here's Joe preaching
- 10:52a little bit, but it's, it's awesome. What you said is interesting, though, he goes to a shrink,
- 10:58so to speak. Love yourself more. That's one of the answers that today's modern society will tell
- 11:03people. You just have to love yourself, please yourself. And isn't it interesting the Bible
- 11:07warns about lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, right? Yeah. Yeah, it says, though, we love
- 11:13lovers of pleasure more than in fact, the very first thing on the lip list is know this that in the
- 11:17last days, terrible times of comfort men will be lovers of self. And then right after that,
- 11:22lovers of pleasures, that's all I Dollar Tree. Yeah, lovers of self putting self up in the
- 11:27in the seat on the throne. So Sparky, the broken mirror is available on Amazon also at goodfight.org
- 11:35slash Sparky book. If you want to check out good fight ministers, you got to take a break already.
- 11:40When we come back, we'll talk more with Pastor Joe Shimmel.
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- 12:01So on your website for Sparky book, Pastor Joe, I want to read Second Corinthians 318.
- 12:07It says, so all of us who have the blinders removed, who have had the blinders removed,
- 12:14can see and reflect like a mirror, the glory of the Lord. And the Lord, who is spirit,
- 12:21is transforming us from glory to glory into his shining image. That's Second Corinthians 318.
- 12:31Joe, I love that translation of that verse and how applicable to the book. Your final thoughts
- 12:36before we move on. Yeah, basically it's based on that verse and how the Lord, we had a double
- 12:43problem that we've got that we're guilty of sin and then we're broken. And the gospel through
- 12:48Jesus, man, he forgives our sins, but he also fixes us and remakes us into his image.
- 12:53So that's what that book's all about. Praise God. Christmas is coming up, man.
- 12:57Yes, a lot of kids need that. Yeah, get get these. I mean, it's not a thick book. Get them for
- 13:02stocking stuffers or whatever for for kids, not just your own kids, friends, your neighbor's kids
- 13:08need to read something like this too. We need to give them hope and give them the gospel. Thank you,
- 13:12Joe. A month ago, we had Chad Davidson on World View Matters. Yeah, we talked, yeah, we talked
- 13:19about fighting the good fight and we had a great conversation. I love what you guys do. I lived out
- 13:24there for 17 years in Southern California. You guys are in the midst of it in the middle of it.
- 13:30I wanted to ask you about some recent projects at good fight ministries that you've been working on.
- 13:35And one of them just released recently and it's called the true manifestation of evil.
- 13:42Joe, you want to tell us a little bit about that and or whatever else recently that you guys
- 13:47been working on. Yeah, we do, you know, as you know, a lot of podcasts and by the way,
- 13:51we miss you out here today. We love you and your precious wife. But we're glad you're doing what
- 13:56you're doing, man, because we need brothers to stand up like you do everywhere. But yeah,
- 14:00we're that particular, we do a podcast a week, but that one we spent a lot of extra time on because
- 14:07manifesting has become so popular and it comes out of witchcraft and Dave, you probably remember
- 14:13that book that came out some years ago with a company video called The Secret. Yes.
- 14:20It was about all about manifesting how you can create your own reality. You can manifest your own
- 14:24reality and and it's really a cultism. It's a cultism and we go through the history there.
- 14:31Chad actually, it was the main guy putting that video together and he interviews
- 14:36Dorian virtue, former top new age or she was the top new age for some time and she interviews me
- 14:42as well. And and we we talk about how the first time you really see this this concept being broadcast
- 14:49it is in the 1800s by people like modern Blavatsky, the cultist. And then we go into the secret
- 14:55and so forth because this is now Dave everywhere. You have sports stars talking about their manifesting
- 15:00Hollywood stars, pop stars. We're all manifesting over and over again. They're saying and it's heartbreaking
- 15:05because what we're talking about is using a cult techniques to open to release power. And in the
- 15:12secret, they try to make it scientific, David. And as you know, so many people do this with
- 15:19with pseudoscience and in the occult and also with Darwinism and so forth, but they teach that
- 15:24your thoughts, you know, and your words can generate a molecular force that basically shapes
- 15:30reality. But when you really look at what they're saying, especially the occultists that are behind
- 15:34it, they they reference and they talk about the spirit world that they open themselves up to.
- 15:40In fact, the secret a lot of people weren't aware, but when you look at Vern who basically
- 15:46wrote it, she talks about the secret and so forth, but she bases it on work with another lady
- 15:53that helped her immensely, who she basically disassociated herself with. And unless she would
- 15:58transfer over all her intellectual rights to the concept of the secret. And what happened here
- 16:04was they were channeling a spirit entity they called Abraham with, well, the the originator of the
- 16:12whole so-called the secret was channeling this entity called the call Abraham. Of course,
- 16:17it's interesting how they always go back to the Bible and use some name to try to give it a
- 16:20feel of truth. Satan always does that. It's a cult that's always seen to do that over and over again.
- 16:24It's like, you know, to make it seem like it's, you know, connected to God's word in some way.
- 16:29And what's crazy is she ends up claiming that she was possessed by this entity who would violently,
- 16:37you know, she'd wake up or she'd be asleep and slam her husband with her arm. And she said,
- 16:40she said that she became a living Ouija board. She said she was afraid of the Ouija board,
- 16:45but she became a living Ouija board. And she started typing out what became much of the secret
- 16:50this philosophy so fast with this entity's controlling her body that her husband had to grab her
- 16:55hands so she didn't break any bones. We're talking about demonic possession. By the way,
- 16:59this took place when she was meditating that she first got in touch with this entity. And it's
- 17:04interesting because before I became a Christian, I was in the occult. And I started doing
- 17:09meditations based on the power of the subconscious mind. And these things that I thought David were
- 17:14were supposed to be science. Power of subconscious mind, psycho cybernetic book that came out in the
- 17:20late 70s. Because I'm reading through these things. I start doing these practices. And I open
- 17:25myself up to the spirit world. And one of the fastest ways to open yourself up to a demon is to
- 17:30Eastern meditation forms of different forms of yoga and so forth. And it's just interesting when
- 17:35you see the connections, mountain bulamatski go way back to her. She claims that she had an entity
- 17:39that would write through her and so forth. Because as you know, Dave, very well that we wrestle a
- 17:44lot against flesh and blood, but against principles and powers against the rules of the darkness of
- 17:48this world, spiritual wickedness and heavenly places. So I think it's interesting. Even the movie,
- 17:52David, the secret, the movie, or I'm sorry, when you look at it or the book, same deal. You have
- 17:59basically the picture of a genie being a lamp being rubbed in a genie coming out, which is short
- 18:04for gin, which goes back to the ancient promises from the demonic entity through this story that
- 18:12gets you in trouble in the long run. And it was interesting that the secret starts off with that
- 18:18picture as though you can basically open yourself up to these forces. And the reality is you're
- 18:23opening yourself up to satanic forces. And basically they come to still kill and destroy.
- 18:30So manifest. I mean, you hear that a lot. I'm just manifesting what I'm thinking of in my mind.
- 18:35I'm creating. It's a perversion of God and creation. And we think that, I mean, I've heard it
- 18:42in churches, Joe. You can just visualize, right? Possibility thinking, visualize. God wants to
- 18:49bless you. We've heard in the prosperity gospel. We don't have time for that. But I do want to talk
- 18:54to you about a very important issue that we've been talking a lot about on this program. And that
- 18:59is Israel. And what's happening there, not just over in the Middle East, because it's melting
- 19:03down. And that's prophetic. Some of what's going on is prophetic. But in America, Joe,
- 19:09anti-Semitism has been off the charts. I'm really disappointed. Part of that is the ignorance
- 19:15of people, even in the church, about world history, about Bible prophecy. But we've got
- 19:21minions in the media and in the university system that are, they're endorsing what Hamas did.
- 19:28Pure evil. And what they did in the attacks in early October. Share your thoughts and help
- 19:33us make some sense out of what we're seeing in America in responding to what's going on in Israel.
- 19:40Yeah. It's important that, and you bring up the whole gamut, you know, Bible prophecy,
- 19:44history, and everything else. And it's important to understand that God itself is not a country.
- 19:51It's a territory that was given by God to Israel. It's not the ancient Philistines there anymore.
- 19:55It's Arabs. We're not historically there until long after the Philistines. And they don't even
- 20:00claim to be the Philistines. Philistine gene pool is gone. They don't say, hey, we're from
- 20:06Creighton, you know, Greece and so forth, which Philistines originally were. So historically,
- 20:11God said he'd make Israel a nation. Again, he said they'd be born in a day. And who would
- 20:14ever think that such a strange thing could happen? God says that in those terms, but he'll bring
- 20:18the nation back together and he has. But it also says that there would be hostility in the nations
- 20:22against them that they'd be their curse and a hissing wear and that no place to lay their foot.
- 20:28They'd be hostility because they are God's people. And David, and I'm praise God for your show
- 20:33because there's so much misinformation on so many issues. Yeah. Whatever I talk to you, I'm like,
- 20:38I feel a kindred spirit because you see what's going on. And we know, and you see the spiritual
- 20:43warfare behind these things, which I think is very, very important because we read from the very
- 20:47get go that God would have his seed come through a woman, right? And Satan would try to crush that
- 20:53seed, but we'd only be able to bruise his heel. But ultimately, that seed would crush Satan's head.
- 20:57And we see Satan trying to destroy the people of Israel from the very beginning, whether it's
- 21:02through, you know, as we're coming in the Promised Land, and Baylam is, you know, trying to curse
- 21:07him at the behest of Bayluk the King, whether you see Hayman trying to kill the Jews in Persia,
- 21:13which is Iran, which by the way, is trying to is using the Hezbollah and Hamas and all these
- 21:18things to destroy Israel to this day. And we see there's a spirit called the Prince of Persia
- 21:22over Iran at that time that Gabriel, the angel Gabriel and the angel Michael fled against. So you
- 21:29see this all the way through history, the serians coming in, the Babylonians trying to destroy them,
- 21:33the Romans, you know, all the way to the Holocaust, which was just in the last century Hitler trying
- 21:37to go into 20 different countries to round up the Jews to kill them. Well, look, anybody that could
- 21:42read history, anybody that wants to be honest with it, we see that there is an onslaught against
- 21:48Israel, but a spiritual too, because we know in the book Revelation chapter 12 that Satan goes
- 21:54after the woman. And the woman is depicted in the beginning of chapter 12 with 12 stars, a son
- 21:59in the moon, which is how she's depicted in a genesis, you know, Jacob and his sons and so forth,
- 22:07his 12 sons making up Israel's name was changed to Israel. I mentioned that because you see the
- 22:11spiritual warfare that's going on with Satan seeking to destroy the woman right up into the
- 22:15tribulation period, God protects the woman who's given birth to the Messiah. Jesus came through the
- 22:20woman Israel and then he can't get Messiah, science sends the heaven, but then he persecutes the
- 22:26woman for 42 months. That's Israel. The 44,000 Jews mentioned Revelation seven were protected from
- 22:32the wrath of God. I say all this because here in the United States now, we have to see that
- 22:36historical, you know, all the way from Genesis, gone now to this period of time that we live in now.
- 22:42And it was interesting that you mentioned what you mentioned because you know the UN, which meets in,
- 22:47you know, New York, United Nations, the lead guy, you know, the general assembly guy, he came out
- 22:54and just said, basically tried to blame it on Israel. Now he's doubled down on what he said.
- 22:58And you have Biden's press secretary when she's asked about anti-Semitism and what's going on
- 23:04with regard to the Jews. She pivots and says, well, you know what, there's no anti-Semitism,
- 23:09we know against the Jews right now, but you know, it's a disproportionate amount against Muslims.
- 23:14And this is crazy because you probably know the statistic. Jews make about 2% of our country,
- 23:222%, yet 51% of the hate crimes in the last several years have been against 51% of them have been
- 23:28against Jews. Absolutely amazing statistic. And what breaks your heart is, in 1921, I'm sorry,
- 23:382021, there were like 2,700 hate crimes against Jews worldwide. Fast-forward 2022, then it's about
- 23:483,700, a thousand more, about a 35% increase. And now you're in 2023, right after they get invaded
- 23:56with the most the most radical terror attack ever on their soil. Little kids decapitated, beheaded,
- 24:03all these brutal things taking place before they even stepped foot in Gaza. They were being blamed
- 24:10here in the United States. Columbia University in New York, which has the greatest amount of Jews
- 24:15in the outside of Israel. Many Jewish students going there, yet professors coming out,
- 24:20condemning Israel and claiming it to be their fault, with Jewish children now afraid to go to
- 24:26school. Many of them staying home by the thousands. So this is exactly what the Bible said would
- 24:31happen. This is because of man's evil reactions toward God's word as planned.
- 24:36But also, Joe, I mean, we're running out of time. I'd love to have you back and talk more about
- 24:40this topic because I feel like you're rushing through a little bit because it's so complicated,
- 24:45but yet it's very easy to understand. I think there's just this blind or because it is demonic
- 24:51what's happening. It's prophetic. It's demonic. And there's so much misinformation and propaganda
- 24:55in America. I was just talking with the pastor yesterday about the propaganda war that the left
- 25:01has been pretty successful. They're laying out this propaganda and you're looking at these
- 25:06college campuses. You're looking at our media and you're going, don't they see what's going on,
- 25:12but they really don't. Some of them are deceived. Some of our deceivers. So how's
- 25:16the Christians respond to this, Joe? And then we've got to wrap it up.
- 25:19Well, I was going to make a video, a client, I'm supposed to fly out the Israel about a week for
- 25:23now. That was our plans, a prophecy video on Israel. So the timing is just really ironic. So they
- 25:28need to be aware of what's going on. They need to dive into the Bible prophecy. They need to stay
- 25:32away from prophecy teachers who are anti-Semitic. Yes, you believe that God hates Israel now and
- 25:38he's done with Israel or replacement theology, right? And they need to stick to Jesus and the
- 25:44scripture so they can discern that they're the genuine article from the counterfeit. I would love
- 25:48to come back and do a whole show on it with you because I know you have a lot to say. And I love
- 25:51this picture, too. Well, we'll do this, Pastor Joe. I just got you on tape admitting that you're
- 25:57going to come back. You're committing. Anyway, hey, Lord willing, my heart's there. All right,
- 26:02God bless you, brother. Sparky. The broken mirror is the book. The children's book, guys,
- 26:07go get that. We're going to have Joe back again. We've got so much more to talk about. And it goes
- 26:11by so fast with these wonderful guests. We're in the middle of Pastor's week here on World
- 26:17View Matters. Joe, thank you for all you do at Good Fight Ministries. God bless you, brother.
- 26:21Thank you for all you do, brother. Love you, baby. All right. Love you too. Okay, guys, wow. So
- 26:27tomorrow we're going to do a follow up on free masonry, part two on the cult, the religion of
- 26:32free masonry with Pastor John Pennell at Calvary Chapel on Lake Ville, Illinois. That's tomorrow.
- 26:38Thank you guys again for sharing the podcast. God bless you. And as always, keep speaking the truth
- 26:43about things that matter.