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Becerra-Hilton Governor Debate | Botched Tennessee Lethal Injection · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM 640, the Bill Handel show
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  Speaker 2: Good Thursday morning, Neil Saavedra and the morning crew here
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  Speaker 2: with you today. You know, Amy, I know you watched
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  Speaker 2: the debates live. I had to watch them after my
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  Speaker 2: evening ended yesterday and go through and watch. And the
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  Speaker 2: funny part was the headlines to me. Going through the
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  Speaker 2: headlines and seeing how biased things are at this point.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, not even like, you know, we feel this
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  Speaker 2: person won or this person. It's like, you know, beaten
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  Speaker 2: and taken down and on both sides.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think either one of them was beaten or
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  Speaker 3: taken down.
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  Speaker 2: No. OK, so here is and we all knew this.
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  Speaker 2: I think I even mentioned this yesterday. We all knew
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  Speaker 2: how it was going to go down. Becerra, he has,
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  Speaker 2: Javier Becerra was basically like that one teacher you had
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  Speaker 2: who said, listen, I'm easy. If you show up, you'll
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  Speaker 2: get a C. I mean, you have to work really
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  Speaker 2: hard to get a D or an F in my class.
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  Speaker 2: And so going in, Javier, that's all he had to do.
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  Speaker 2: Just show up. All he had to show up and
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  Speaker 2: not make any big mistakes. It really was on Hilton.
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  Speaker 2: Steve Hilton had to come in and strike hard, strike fast,
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  Speaker 2: and be as specific as possible. He didn't. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we knew that Becerra was just going to use the
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  Speaker 2: Trump card. I wish they went in and said, here's
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  Speaker 2: the deal on this debate. You can't say Trump You
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  Speaker 2: can't say Republican. You can't say Democrat. Issues only. Focus
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  Speaker 2: on the issues. You can say, hey, listen, the past
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  Speaker 2: administrations have been doing this. This is what my administration
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  Speaker 2: would do differently. Or in the past, this has been
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  Speaker 2: a pattern in California. This is how I want to
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  Speaker 2: break the pattern. I don't like the scapegoating with Trump
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  Speaker 2: all the time. It drives me nuts. And that's what
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  Speaker 2: Becerra came in with. He came in with, all I
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  Speaker 2: got to do is tie this guy to Trump in
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  Speaker 2: one way, shape, or the other. People hate Trump in California,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a hyper blue state. Not across the board.
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  Speaker 2: You've got parts up north, believe it or not, that
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  Speaker 2: don't like patchouli oil and are more conservative. You have
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  Speaker 2: parts of Orange County, although that's changing. But the reality is,
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  Speaker 2: once you peg someone, I'm humored by the responses we
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  Speaker 2: get on the air. I will literally get one saying
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  Speaker 2: that I'm this empty-headed liberal, and then the next person
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  Speaker 2: saying I'm a Nazi conservative, and I'm neither. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to play in your little games. I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to Force myself into a tiny little box because D's
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  Speaker 2: and R's are easier for you to remember. And that's
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  Speaker 2: all they want to do. They want to cram someone
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  Speaker 2: into a box. And that's what they did. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there was, you know, Steve Hilton would try and shoot
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  Speaker 2: back and say, you're going to do this. And strangely enough, Becerra. Looked.
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  Speaker 2: timid or he looked not annoyed to be there, but
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  Speaker 2: he didn't look super engaged.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he didn't have eye contact. He never made,
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  Speaker 3: not never, but for the most part, he didn't make
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  Speaker 3: eye contact with anybody.
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  Speaker 2: You know, and I've met Becerra on a number of times,
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  Speaker 2: a nice enough guy. I've never met Steve Hilton. But
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  Speaker 2: neither of them impressed me at all with any particular idea.
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  Speaker 2: Do I like the idea of getting rid of red tape?
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: Do I like the idea of, you know, this is
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  Speaker 2: something in politics that has always bugged me. They're always
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  Speaker 2: ready to raise taxes to make something happen, but they're
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  Speaker 2: never ready to cut their costs and how much they
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  Speaker 2: charge you, whether it's for any paperwork that you have
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  Speaker 2: to do to get something built. We can't build things anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is in California. We have
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  Speaker 2: lost the art of building things. They've got this people
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  Speaker 2: mover system. in the airport that they can't get going.
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  Speaker 2: We've got the high-speed train boondoggle, which is absolutely absurd.
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  Speaker 2: We've forgotten how to build. But I think we overcharge
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  Speaker 2: to have things built. We have issues with building. No
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  Speaker 2: one wants to build housing here. And then the local
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  Speaker 2: government comes out and says, oh, get ADUs. We need
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  Speaker 2: more ADUs. We'll stop the red tape. But you made
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  Speaker 2: the red tape. It's it's the government has to be
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  Speaker 2: accountable for things and no one wants to hold them accountable.
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  Speaker 2: And everybody wants their, you know, their person in there.
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  Speaker 2: And you had Becerra saying, you know, Trump, i.e. now
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  Speaker 2: you are going to want to take people that look
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  Speaker 2: like me. Off the street. as illegals and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: And that's asinine because you could flip it and say, well,
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  Speaker 2: you want people that look like you to stay here,
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  Speaker 2: but no one else. If it was white people coming
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  Speaker 2: over the border to stay here and they were costing
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  Speaker 2: us money, that you'd have the left not wanting it.
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  Speaker 2: So it was a whole lot of nothing. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think anybody backed up what they were saying and gave
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  Speaker 2: any great ideas about how they were going to do
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  Speaker 2: it different. But Steve Hilton's ideas were way more different
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  Speaker 2: than I've heard in the past. And I would have
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  Speaker 2: liked to have heard more, you know, about.
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  Speaker 3: You don't get to because there's just one debate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But the debates don't do anything. People are they
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  Speaker 2: want to. People are only listening with their triggers. People
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  Speaker 2: are only listening with what they believe. And the more
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  Speaker 2: I'm here in the radio world and the more people
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  Speaker 2: respond to things, they really, really are driven into their
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  Speaker 2: own monologue in their head. It's fascinating to me. I'd
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  Speaker 2: love to study some of the people that write or
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  Speaker 2: call into the stations. Because it is like they are
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  Speaker 2: in this little echo chamber. And we've got to get
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  Speaker 2: out of there. We need new ideas. Sorry, folks, we do.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care if they have an R and a
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  Speaker 2: D behind them. We need new ideas. And neither of
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  Speaker 2: them really came with anything that was that strong. But Becerra,
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  Speaker 2: all he's got to do is not step on his
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  Speaker 2: own crank until the election. That's it. That's his only job.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that he's just going to do that.
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  Speaker 2: Paddle's on vacation. I'll be with you this week and
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  Speaker 2: next week, and then he shall return. Krista Pike, still alive.
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  Speaker 2: First woman to be put to death in Tennessee in
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  Speaker 2: over 200 years. She was given two doses of lethal
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  Speaker 2: injection yesterday evening, but remained alive as what they're now
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  Speaker 2: calling her botched execution descended into chaos. prompted the governor
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  Speaker 2: to demand an outside probe and issue an emergency pause
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  Speaker 2: on all executions for the remainder of the year. She's
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  Speaker 2: 50 years old now. This all went back to January
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  Speaker 2: of 1995. We'll get into that in a moment. But yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: she was strapped to the gurney there in Riverbend Maximum
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  Speaker 2: Security Institution in the death chamber just before 7.30 p.m.
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  Speaker 2: That's central. after the U.S. Supreme Court overruled her stay
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  Speaker 2: of execution an hour or so earlier. When she was 18,
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  Speaker 2: back in 1995, she had this jealous fit of rage. However, premeditatedly,
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't like she got angry and then the passion
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  Speaker 2: of the moment did something. she murdered another student. So
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  Speaker 2: for that, she was injected with two syringes of a
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  Speaker 2: lethal drug, pentobarbital, but didn't die. Could be heard snoring, apparently,
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  Speaker 2: as lawyers and witnesses there.
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  Speaker 3: Ms.
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  Speaker 2: Pike has not lost consciousness and still has a heartbeat
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  Speaker 2: and is audibly snoring, her attorneys wrote. She was taken
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  Speaker 2: to a nearby hospital. Her lawyers said she was being
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  Speaker 2: provided life-saving measures. Jeez, man. I know it's ugly, but
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what else is ugly. The murder of
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  Speaker 2: Colleen Slimmer, January 1995, Krista Pike, her boyfriend, to Daryl Shipp.
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  Speaker 2: He was 17 at the time. Their friend, Shadola Peterson,
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  Speaker 2: were trainees alongside Colleen at the Job Corps Center in Knoxville, Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: Pike grew intensely jealous of Slemmer. She believed that she
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  Speaker 2: was romantically interested in her boyfriend ship. So on January 12th, 1995,
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  Speaker 2: Pike lured Slemmer to an isolated wooded area on the
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  Speaker 2: university of Tennessee campus under the false pretense that she
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  Speaker 2: was going to make peace with her, you know, um,
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  Speaker 2: Once there, Pike and Shipp launched a very coordinated assault,
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  Speaker 2: lasted what they say between 30 and 60 minutes. They
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  Speaker 2: tortured Slimmer, slashed, beaten with a meat cleaver and a
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  Speaker 2: box cutter. Pike carved a pentagram into Slimmer's chest. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember, but In the 80s,
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  Speaker 2: there was that satanic panic going on. I know this
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  Speaker 2: is 1995. Some of the stories say it was the
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  Speaker 2: height of the national satanic panic. I remember it a
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  Speaker 2: little earlier than that. But so putting ritualistic elements into
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  Speaker 2: this crime of carving a pentagram into the chest of
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  Speaker 2: the victim here. The fatal blow, Schlemmer's skull was ultimately
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  Speaker 2: crushed using a large piece of asphalt. What about the souvenir? Well,
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  Speaker 2: Pike shattered Schlemmer's skull, obviously, but then pocketed a piece
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  Speaker 2: of the bone from the skull as a souvenir. She
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  Speaker 2: later showed off and bragged about it to fellow students.
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  Speaker 2: So Shipp, because he was a minor, 17 at the
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  Speaker 2: time of the crime, he was ineligible for the death penalty.
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  Speaker 2: So he was sentenced to life in prison and remains incarcerated.
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  Speaker 2: Shadola Peter said she turned state's evidence, testified against Pike,
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  Speaker 2: and received only probation for her minor role in looking
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  Speaker 2: out during the crime. I don't have a whole lot
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  Speaker 2: of sympathy for her situation. And I think that by
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  Speaker 2: trying to make things more humane, we've actually made them
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  Speaker 2: less humane. And you want to hear some bizarre, you know,
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  Speaker 2: historical notes. Star Wars came out in 1977. That was
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  Speaker 2: the same year, I believe, that France used the guillotine
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  Speaker 2: to as a lethal uh death penalty so they were
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  Speaker 2: still in france in the 70s they were used using
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  Speaker 2: the guillotine which probably is still one of the most
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  Speaker 2: humane ways to do it i mean probably not the
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  Speaker 2: best way to watch not not one you want to
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  Speaker 2: watch but if you're going to do it do it right.
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  Speaker 2: And they're trying to make it more humane. And really
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  Speaker 2: what ends up happening is it's less humane. If you
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  Speaker 2: want to give them Novocaine or something, I mean, if
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  Speaker 2: you want to dull the pain, fine, that's what you
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  Speaker 2: use the drugs for. But there is no purpose for
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  Speaker 2: this person on earth anymore. They're not going to do
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  Speaker 2: anything else. They're not going to go on a speaking
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  Speaker 2: tour or Tell people how not to kill. You shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: do it. It's real bad. Don't crush another human being's
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  Speaker 2: skull with a piece of asphalt and keep part of
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  Speaker 2: their skull as a memento mori. You know, it's like,
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  Speaker 2: where is the compassion for victims anymore? Everybody's protecting the
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  Speaker 2: beast's 80% or more of us are doing it right
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  Speaker 2: to the best of our abilities. And every stupid thing
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  Speaker 2: that we have to deal with, every extra cost in
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  Speaker 2: our life comes at the hands of these 20% or
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  Speaker 2: so that don't want to play along. I can't buy
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  Speaker 2: spray paint. I can't buy a Gillette razor refill. Because
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  Speaker 2: of these people. I have to pay for locks on
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  Speaker 2: my doors, security systems, weaponry, if that's your thing. Because
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  Speaker 2: of these people. And this is who we fight for
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  Speaker 2: half the time. When the rest of us are going
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  Speaker 2: through not murdering, which is really not that hard when
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  Speaker 2: you think about it. Not really hard not to murder
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  Speaker 2: somebody or to. Unless you're a listener of talk radio, apparently.
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  Speaker 2: They get mad at the dumbest things. You know, someone
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  Speaker 2: got mad at me the other day because I gave
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  Speaker 2: my wife a compliment. On the air. That really happened.
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  Speaker 2: Shut up, Kono. It's not that you complimented her. It's
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  Speaker 2: how you compliment. I love my wife. Jeez. But you
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  Speaker 2: know what I want to do? Maybe I'll do that
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  Speaker 2: on a Friday. We'll play all the weird anger. That people,
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  Speaker 2: that listeners get. Like, what makes them mad? Cracks me up.
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  Speaker 2: That's what the talkback feature is for. It's a good
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  Speaker 2: substitute for murdering somebody. It doesn't make a great feature.
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  Speaker 3: Don't give anybody any ideas.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I've been doing it for 30 years and I'm
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  Speaker 2: still walking. There's plenty of people that deserve it before me.
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  Speaker 2: If you have put any gas in your car recently,
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  Speaker 2: I drive a truck and It was $ 108 to fill
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  Speaker 2: up the other day here in Burbank. And I remember
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  Speaker 2: when you felt rich with $ 100 in your pocket, you're like, man,
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  Speaker 2: I can see the world. I can go places with this.
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  Speaker 2: Not anymore. That was just... And I don't usually... Gas
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  Speaker 2: goes up, gas goes down. It doesn't make me happy.
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  Speaker 2: I worry and think about people working their ass off
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  Speaker 2: and driving back and forth. They've got it worse than
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  Speaker 2: I do. And I genuinely go, man, that's a bummer.
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  Speaker 2: But there was a time where I drove 57 miles
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  Speaker 2: one way to get to KFI. For a long time,
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  Speaker 2: I did that. So I feel the pain. New article
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  Speaker 2: comes out. about American workers spending an average of almost
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  Speaker 2: $ 7, 000 per year just to show up at the office,
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  Speaker 2: just to get into the office. And so this study
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  Speaker 2: looks at commuting. And Kono, you probably commute the most
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  Speaker 2: out of all of us, right? Oh, yeah. What's your
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  Speaker 2: drive again?
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  Speaker 3: 74 miles one way.
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  Speaker 2: That hurt me in my bits. Yeah. So that's what?
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  Speaker 3: 700 miles a week?
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  Speaker 2: You must be. Just for work. Why don't you have
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  Speaker 2: one of those e-bikes? Coming to work doing wheelies on
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  Speaker 2: an e-bike.
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  Speaker 3: I still got to get here at a prompt in
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  Speaker 3: a timely manner.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. I didn't know it was that far.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, which again, 3.30 in the morning, it's a 56-minute drive. Oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a lot. So commuting accounts for a large
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  Speaker 2: portion of that, almost 50% a year, including that could
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  Speaker 2: be public transit, that could be gas, any other expensive.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, another chunk of that, has nothing to
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  Speaker 2: do with the drive. It has to do with access
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  Speaker 2: to food, buying food, buying coffee, doing all those things
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  Speaker 2: because you're not at home. Now, admittedly, I work a
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  Speaker 2: lot from home. I can do, technology has changed during
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  Speaker 2: COVID and I had a kidney transplant over six years
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  Speaker 2: ago now. So right before COVID, I was already sequestered
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  Speaker 2: and couldn't go out as I was healing and your
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  Speaker 2: immunity is super suppressed. So I had already had a
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  Speaker 2: studio built in knowing that I was going to have
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  Speaker 2: to work from home then. So I eased right into
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  Speaker 2: COVID and beyond. No problem. But people started learning how
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  Speaker 2: much it costs to go into work and to buy
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  Speaker 2: lunch and which has even gotten more expensive because you're
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  Speaker 2: at the office. But when I come in, it's still
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  Speaker 2: not that, you know, I have an eight mile drive
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  Speaker 2: or so to get in now. So I can't look
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  Speaker 2: at you. I'm like Becerra last night during the debate.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to look at anybody. I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to look at you. So that's just insane. More than
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  Speaker 2: half of workers, 53.2% said their office costs have risen
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  Speaker 2: over the past 12 months compared to Only 5.9% who
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  Speaker 2: said their costs have fallen. And it's all about being
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  Speaker 2: in the building. And if you need to be there,
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  Speaker 2: you need to be there. Do I think you're a
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  Speaker 2: superhero because you go into work?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: Managerially, when you're a manager, you get paid for your
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  Speaker 2: brain a lot of time, making decisions, things like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you have to be on site, but you don't shut
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  Speaker 2: off at five either. You're... on all the time, you
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  Speaker 2: get phone calls and you're dealing with stuff. Even on vacation,
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  Speaker 2: you're dealing with stuff. But if it's just FaceTime, if
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  Speaker 2: it's not for creativity or building, you know, connecting with people.
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  Speaker 2: I used to love coming in here and I still
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  Speaker 2: do for you guys, like hanging out with you guys,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not the vibrant place that it used to be.
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  Speaker 2: Not tons of people running around or the news department
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  Speaker 2: back in the day when the news was hitting the fan. Man,
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  Speaker 2: nothing better. Someone running around going, there's a shootout and
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  Speaker 2: a bank robbery in North Hollywood. Some guy on the
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  Speaker 2: 105 freeway with a gun to his head or something.
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  Speaker 2: It's like you're hearing all these crazy stories. Now, not
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  Speaker 2: so much. So, yeah, it costs you to go to work.
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  Speaker 2: That sucks. That's our life. I'm becoming him. California care court.
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  Speaker 2: People may not know that there's such thing, but it's
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  Speaker 2: supposed to help the sickest homeless people get mental health treatment.
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  Speaker 2: Hasn't reached nearly as many people as they expected. This year,
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  Speaker 2: Governor Newsom signed two little bitty bills to tweak the program,
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  Speaker 2: but two bigger proposals died in the legislature. It's the
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  Speaker 2: way it seems to flow sometimes. The two new laws
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  Speaker 2: are modest. One makes it easier for first responders like
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  Speaker 2: firefighters to refer someone to the program instead of filing
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  Speaker 2: complicated paperwork themselves to get everything and the ball moving.
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  Speaker 2: The other lets family members share information with a participant's
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  Speaker 2: care team. So incremental movement, incremental tiny little bits, they're
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  Speaker 2: not going to fix everything. And it still has a
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  Speaker 2: lot of problems. So the bigger bills that failed would
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  Speaker 2: have connected care court to conservatorships, basically involuntary treatment for
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  Speaker 2: people too sick to accept help voluntarily. Supporters said this
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  Speaker 2: would stop people from falling through the cracks. But critics
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  Speaker 2: like Disability Rights California argued it would make the program
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  Speaker 2: more coercive. and that forcing treatment doesn't work. So the
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  Speaker 2: bills died in committee, partly because they were expensive and
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  Speaker 2: lawmakers wanted more information. We do so many stupid laws
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  Speaker 2: with very little information and understanding. You go through some
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  Speaker 2: of these laws. They're putting the brakes on parts of
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  Speaker 2: 3D printing because they think you can make a gun.
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  Speaker 2: But there's no way to actually enforce that because it's
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  Speaker 2: like enforcing ones and zeros, like ones and zeros in
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  Speaker 2: certain configurations are bad or certain geometry should be illegal.
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  Speaker 2: And we do stuff like that without having information. As
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  Speaker 2: a matter of fact, the most people, the experts in
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: those cases were shut down. So don't give me that
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: we don't have enough information. So the debate comes down
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: to this philosophical disagreement. Some people believe you can't help
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: someone until they're ready to accept help. Others say that
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: when someone is so sick, they're living on the streets
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: waiting for them to agree isn't realistic. And that makes sense.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: If they don't have the wherewithal to make decisions about
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  Speaker 2: their life to actually live and do the basic stuff
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: that you and I do, like going to an actual
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: toilet to go to the bathroom. Not doing, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: talking about you, Kono, you be you. Just not in here.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: But to be able, if you don't have the ability
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  Speaker 2: to do those things, then you are at best a
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: feral human and nobody's helping you. You know, the right
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: wants to brush you under a rug. That's not going
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: to help anybody or move you out. And the left
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: wants to pretend like you're our neighbor. Right? They're your neighbors.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Don't get mad at your neighbors. I go, oh, okay. Well,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: my neighbor just dropped a huge deuce on my front lawn.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Can you maybe get my neighbor to come clean it up? Or, yes, hello,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: you council member. My neighbor is fashioning a shiv out
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: of a piece of metal that fell off a car
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: that just drove by in the McDonald's drive-thru. on the curb.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: They're not our neighbors. The ones that are our neighbors
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: want help and get help. And I don't know why
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: it's more humane to let somebody live in their own
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: filth on the streets. And it's bad, man. It is bad.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: And why that's acceptable and why that's showing compassion. So
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: we do these tiny little tweaks, these little bills that
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: make these laws that change it just a tiny bit
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: in the care court. But we don't want to make
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: any bill that's actually going to do anything like saying, no,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: you can't just live on the street in your own
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: filth and continue to make these shanty houses all over
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: the place that are filthy, by the way, absolutely filthy.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: And they're dying with 3,000 and change a year on
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: the streets here in Los Angeles alone. But it's their
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: freedom to die like a rat.
• 26:44
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