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Sharri | 17 November · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why On Sky News Venus Sharry.
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Speaker 2: Good Evening Tonight the Formidable Mother set to take on
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Speaker 2: Jacinta Allen at the next election.
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Speaker 3: Will bring you the breaking news on.
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Speaker 2: The shock move to overthrow Victorian opposition leader Brad Batten.
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Speaker 2: This is unfolding in dramatic fashion. Tonight Steve Price will
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Speaker 2: join us with the latest. This all comes of Susan
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Speaker 2: Lee faces her own leadership turmoil. I'll bring you the
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Speaker 2: secret plan for an Andrew Hasty Tim Wilson leadership team.
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Speaker 2: We'll discuss it all with Brahmin Bishop. Also on the show,
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Speaker 2: Tony Burke cancels the visa of a neo Nazi, sending
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Speaker 2: him packing to South Africa. A good move, but why
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Speaker 2: hasn't he taken the same action against.
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Speaker 3: Radical hate preachers.
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Speaker 2: Plus, Donald Trump, in a major backflip, has publicly backed
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Speaker 2: the release of government records linked to the Epstein case.
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Speaker 2: It's all coming up, but first in breaking news tonight,
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Speaker 2: Victoria's opposition leader Brad Baton is facing a leadership challenge Tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: A cross factional group of liberals, including Bev MacArthur from
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Speaker 2: the Conservatives and Brad Rothswell from the Moderates, told Baton
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Speaker 2: today that they had lost.
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Speaker 3: Confidence in him.
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Speaker 2: They're supporting Shadow Treasurer jess Wilson for the role. My
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Speaker 2: sources tell me the group believes that they have the numbers,
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Speaker 2: and I hear that Jacinta Allen is more worried about
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Speaker 2: facing Wilson than Baton at the next election. Jessica is
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Speaker 2: just thirty five, She's a mother who had her first
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Speaker 2: baby last year, and she's been in politics for three years.
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Speaker 3: If successful, she'd be the first woman.
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Speaker 2: To lead the party in Victoria. She'd also be the
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Speaker 2: state's third opposition leader in less than a year now.
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Speaker 2: Critics will argue that while Jessica Wilson is bright and talented,
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Speaker 2: that she doesn't have the political experience to fight such
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Speaker 2: a tough campaign. Brad Batten is a former police officer,
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Speaker 2: and he has been doing a much better job by
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Speaker 2: far than John Pursuito before him in holding the Allen
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Speaker 2: government to account. This is especially so in the middle
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Speaker 2: of the worst crime crisis in decades. Replacing him with
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Speaker 2: Wilson is high risk, but Daniel Andrews and now Justin
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Speaker 2: to Alan have been firmly entrenched as the government of
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Speaker 2: the day, and the fact is the polls are not
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Speaker 2: shifting enough, as Steve Price will be on the show
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Speaker 2: shortly tells us week after week, Justin to Allan, despite
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Speaker 2: every thing, is still on track to win the next election,
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Speaker 2: despite the crime crisis, the deteriorating budget, Victoria's anti business culture,
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Speaker 2: and this includes the premiers new and absurd working from
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Speaker 2: home laws which have seen business in uproar. Baden hasn't
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Speaker 2: been able to cut through on the economy or the budget.
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Speaker 2: And now that Alan has moved to address crime with
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Speaker 2: her adult Time for Violent Crime policy, she has seemingly
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Speaker 2: addressed Baden's key strength, even though we know from the
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Speaker 2: Premier it's all spin. So yes, Jessica Wilson is inexperienced
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Speaker 2: and she's very young.
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Speaker 3: But in progressive Victoria, perhaps.
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Speaker 2: It's a good idea to have a young female take
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Speaker 2: on Jasin to Allan. Perhaps this is the circuit breaker,
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Speaker 2: need it. Michael Kroger, just on Andrew Bolt's program, describe
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Speaker 2: her as a formidable individual. Now this is a shock
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Speaker 2: move tonight, But the Liberals have just enough time to
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Speaker 2: put up a credible new leadership team ahead of the
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Speaker 2: next Victorian election, which is due by November twenty eighth.
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Speaker 3: Next year.
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Speaker 2: I'll bring you more on this breaking story tonight in
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Speaker 2: a moment with Steve Price. Now to the deepening leadership
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Speaker 2: turmoil surrounding Susan Lee. There's a slow moving but increasingly
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Speaker 2: undeniable challenged to her position, and here's the state of play.
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Speaker 2: The Conservatives ultimately support a leadership change, but for now
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Speaker 2: they're holding fire, prepared to give Lee more time and
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Speaker 2: wait until the new year. The majority of moderate liberals
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Speaker 2: also continue to publicly back Lee. But what has shifted
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Speaker 2: is this A small but significant number of influential moderates
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Speaker 2: have quietly moved their support from Susan Lee to Andrew Hasty,
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Speaker 2: or perhaps not so quietly, seeing as this ended up
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Speaker 2: on the front page of the papers.
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Speaker 3: Among them are Tim Wilson and Jane Hume.
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Speaker 2: There were reports that Liberal Senator Andrew Bragg had joined
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Speaker 2: them in backing Hasty, but he insists it's not true.
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Speaker 2: Bragg told me today that Lee deserves clear air to
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Speaker 2: sell the new energy policy. Bragg said, I support Susan
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Speaker 2: and I haven't spoken to Hasty about the leadership. I'm
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Speaker 2: not contemplating anyone other than Susan being the leader right now,
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Speaker 2: so that's Bragg telling me that earlier today. Now there's
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Speaker 2: also been speculation over Dave Sharmer's position. Will sources tell
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Speaker 2: me that Sharma is not agitating or encouraging a challenge,
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Speaker 2: but would consider supporting Hasty if one emerged.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: While the number of moderates switching camps is very small,
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Speaker 2: when combined with the Conservatives, it could be enough to
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Speaker 2: shift the numbers from Susan Lee to an altimate candidate.
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Speaker 2: That is, if the Conservatives can unify behind a single
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Speaker 2: leadership figure. The two current options are Angus Taylor and Andrew Hasty.
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Speaker 2: Moderates considering Hasty would expect a deal in return for
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Speaker 2: supporting Hasty, the Moderates would require the deputy leadership. Now,
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Speaker 2: the pitch is for a fresh, next generation team, and
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Speaker 2: one option being discussed is Hasty as leader with Tim
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Speaker 2: Wilson as deputy.
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Speaker 3: Both are young.
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Speaker 2: Hasty is forty three and Wilson forty five, both with talent,
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Speaker 2: but from very different ends of the liberal spectrum. Hasty
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Speaker 2: is a social Conservative, a former SAS officer, raised in
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Speaker 2: Sydney and now in Perth. He's always been outspoken on
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Speaker 2: Turnbull's twenty eighteen energy policy to legislate Paris and against
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Speaker 2: the extradition treaty with China in twenty seventeen. Some moderates fear, though,
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Speaker 2: that he may struggle to resonate with voters in inner
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Speaker 2: city electorates, and they point to the recent controversy over
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Speaker 2: his abortion comments. Now, Hasty maintains his position was deliberately.
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Speaker 3: Taken out of context.
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Speaker 2: Tim Wilson, meanwhile, is as socially progressive as Hasty as conservative.
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Speaker 2: He was the only Liberal to win back a Teal
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Speaker 2: seat at the last election. His intelligent, disciplined and a
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Speaker 2: conviction politician. Now the irony is that Tim Wilson and
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Speaker 2: Andrew Bragg were among the strongest opponents of dumping Net zero,
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Speaker 2: and it was Hasty who spearheaded the push to abolish it. Nevertheless,
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Speaker 2: the broad moderate group does remain behind Susan Lee, and
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Speaker 2: senior moderates Anne Rustin and Maria Kovacic issued this statement today,
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Speaker 2: saying media reports this morning about the moderates are incorrect. We,
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Speaker 2: along with an overwhelming majority of our moderate colleagues, continue
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Speaker 2: to strongly support Susan's leadership, and Anne Rustin then reinforced
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Speaker 2: the message in an interview with Kieran Gilbert earlier.
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Speaker 4: I can confirm that every single one of the moderates
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Speaker 4: that I spoke to this morning supports Susan Lee as
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Speaker 4: the leader of our party. In just wanted to make
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Speaker 4: sure that that was very clear given the speculation that
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Speaker 4: we've seen in the media overnight.
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Speaker 2: But as usual in the current chaos of the coalition,
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Speaker 2: some colleagues are deliberately feeding the disunity.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, obviously it does look like people are positioning
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Speaker 5: themselves and I wouldn't be telling you the truth otherwise,
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Speaker 5: would I. But what I would also say, it's a
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Speaker 5: fifteen hundred meter race. Be really careful where you positioning
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Speaker 5: yourself on the first lap. It's none really cares that
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Speaker 5: the finish lineers two and half years away, and that's
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Speaker 5: where you've got to be positioning yourself.
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Speaker 2: And Garth Hamilton on this show on Thursday refuse to
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Speaker 2: say that Susan Lee should still be next year. Should
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Speaker 2: still be? Garth, you just said you can't look that
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Speaker 2: far ahead. It's only one year. Do you think Susan
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Speaker 2: will be leader this time next year?
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Speaker 6: No, I'm not going to go into it for you today, Shari.
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2: I think you can't get a huge confidence in her
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Speaker 2: leadership to say that you think she'll be still be
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Speaker 2: a leader in a year's time.
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Speaker 7: I'm not going to suggest anyone on that one for you, Shari,
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Speaker 7: I'm going to focus on today's great outcome, which is
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Speaker 7: a great policy win.
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Speaker 2: And Malcolm Turnbull today couldn't help himself as usual.
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Speaker 8: I feel sorry for because she is in a she's
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Speaker 8: in a fish tank consisting of goldfish that have no
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Speaker 8: you know, that have no memory, that forget, forget everything
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Speaker 8: that they've done the last time round and the other
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Speaker 8: and they act like piranhas. They just want to eat
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Speaker 8: each other. So it's a they've got the memory of
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Speaker 8: goldfish in the dining habits of piranhas.
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Speaker 2: Can I always count on him to provide a helpful intervention,
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Speaker 2: but this type of disunity is highly damaging. Anthony Albanesi,
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Speaker 2: of course, is capitalizing on every moment of this destabilization
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Speaker 2: campaign against Susan Lee and the only beneficiary of the
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Speaker 2: Liberal in fighting so far is the Albanezi government.
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Speaker 9: It is just a policy to try and get the
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Speaker 9: leader of the opposition through the Christmas as the leader
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Speaker 9: in spite of the fact she is being under each
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Speaker 9: and every day by her own colleagues. There's no discipline.
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Speaker 2: Susan Lee is trying to sell her new energy policy,
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Speaker 2: but instead she finds herself defending her leadership amid leaks
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Speaker 2: about moderates shifting to Hasty.
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Speaker 1: But the sharks are circling. We've got the front page
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Speaker 1: where Andrew Hasty is basically doing the numbers for his
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Speaker 1: leadership tilt. On the front page, We've got Angus Taylor
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Speaker 1: doing a soft interview with news Corp over the weekend, saying,
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Speaker 1: oh what his favorite movie is and talking about what
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Speaker 1: he's learned since he lost the Leadership's.
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Speaker 3: Bill to you, are you worried? Is your leadership terminal?
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Speaker 10: I know you've got to ask these questions, Nat, but
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Speaker 10: I'm not going to lose focus on the things that matter.
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Speaker 10: And I'm not going to lose focus on the plan
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Speaker 10: that I'm talking about right now, which is about people.
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Speaker 10: It's about Australians, it's about affordable energy as a priority.
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Speaker 3: And again today.
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Speaker 10: For people are entitled to have their views. I'm not
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Speaker 10: here for a sense of ego about me.
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Speaker 6: Can I be really clear about that.
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Speaker 10: I'm here for Australians who are working hard, I've been
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Speaker 10: underestimated a lot of my life. Once again, it's actually
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Speaker 10: not about me. It's about the Australian people and they're
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Speaker 10: what motivates me every single day.
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Speaker 2: So these are the questions Susan Lee's confronting, just as
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Speaker 2: she has finally landed her energy policy and is trying
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Speaker 2: to sell it after six months of work. Now it
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Speaker 2: may well be the case that Lee has been underestimated
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Speaker 2: all her life, as you just heard, but she now
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Speaker 2: faces pressure from two fronts, the Albaneze government and the
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Speaker 2: enemy within her own colleagues. And the reality is if
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Speaker 2: she can't lift the coalition's dire performance in the polls,
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Speaker 2: then the sustained pressure on her leadership will only intensify
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Speaker 2: into the new year. The South African man who attended
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Speaker 2: the near Nazi rally outside Parliament House has today had
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Speaker 2: his visa revoked by the Albanese government. Matthew Gruter was
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Speaker 2: named and shamed by The Sydney Morning Herald last week,
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Speaker 2: spotted among this awful scene. It's been reported that he's
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Speaker 2: been living in Australia with his wife for the past
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Speaker 2: three years.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke has this afternoon confirmed that
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Speaker 2: he's axed his visa.
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Speaker 11: Earlier today, the decision was made by one of the
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Speaker 11: Assistant Ministers that his visa would be canceled. He no
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Speaker 11: longer has a legal right to be in Australia. He
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Speaker 11: should leave Australia immediately. If he doesn't, then he'll find
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Speaker 11: himself in immigration to tention and being deported at a
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Speaker 11: time where too many Australians are experiencing bigotry and prejudice.
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Speaker 11: Got no intention of us being a country that gives
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Speaker 11: people visas where their entire intention is to make other
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Speaker 11: Australians feel unwelcome.
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Speaker 3: Is he serious?
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Speaker 2: Tony Burke has acted swiftly in this instance, but it
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Speaker 2: begs the question why hasn't he canceled the visas of
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Speaker 2: any hate preachers who are on visus. It's absolutely the
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Speaker 2: right thing to do to crack down on these neo Nazis,
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Speaker 2: but it's unacceptable that the left, from the media to
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Speaker 2: the politicians ignore the same hate, even the same language,
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Speaker 2: from radical Islamist extremists. So much to talk about tonight,
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Speaker 2: Let's bring in our Sky News host Steve Price and
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Speaker 2: former Speaker of the House of Broman Bishop. Now let's
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Speaker 2: start with this breaking news, the dramatic leadership spill that
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Speaker 2: is on to tomorrow. Steve, you have been telling us
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Speaker 2: for ages that Victorian premier just sent to Alan is
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Speaker 2: still on track to win the next election. So what
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Speaker 2: are your thoughts on this move tonight to dump Brad
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Speaker 2: Batton and replace him with Jessica Wilson.
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Speaker 12: Well, the challenges are taking a big risk. I mean
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Speaker 12: Brad batons he's been improving in the polls. I think
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Speaker 12: his media performances have been a lot stronger in the
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Speaker 12: last three or four weeks. But this should come as
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Speaker 12: no surprise to him that this has happened, because I
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Speaker 12: can tell you that two fridays ago, I had jess
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Speaker 12: Wilson lined up to appear on my Sky show and
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Speaker 12: she canceled it the last minute. She said she wanted
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Speaker 12: to spend more time with her young baby at home
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Speaker 12: before she went on a trip to China with Brad Batton,
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Speaker 12: and ultimately she went never went on that trip and
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Speaker 12: never gave an explanation as to why she suddenly pulled out.
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Speaker 12: Well we now know why because the numbers are being counted.
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Speaker 12: I can only imagine that the challengers think that she
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Speaker 12: will be stronger on attacking Jasina Allen and the worst
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Speaker 12: labor government we've ever had in this state. On the
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Speaker 12: area of the economy. Brad Batton's fine on law and order.
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Speaker 12: He's an ex police officer and ex prison guard and
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Speaker 12: so he was winning the race on that. But jacin her,
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Speaker 12: as you pointed out Shari at the start of the show,
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Speaker 12: has now started to toughen up the bail laws that
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Speaker 12: she originally softened. She's now trying to take machetes off people.
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Speaker 12: She's doing all of those things because she knows a
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Speaker 12: year out from the election that she has to do
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Speaker 12: something on law and order. But it's the economy that
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Speaker 12: ultimately will be what will win the election for the
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Speaker 12: Liberal Party if they can win. And a reminder, and
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Speaker 12: I know Brahmin doesn't need to be reminding about this,
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Speaker 12: the Liberal Coalition, the new National Coalition in Victoria have
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Speaker 12: been in office only once for four years of the
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Speaker 12: last twenty seven years. That's how bad they are.
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Speaker 3: Roman.
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Speaker 2: What do you think I mean, I think we all
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Speaker 2: agree Australia knows just how bad the Andrews and then
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Speaker 2: the Allen governments have been for Victoria. This is now
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Speaker 2: a year out before the election. Is it a high
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Speaker 2: risk move or a good one?
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Speaker 13: Well, of course it's a high risk move because it
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Speaker 13: looks like a continuation Steve and Shari that of what
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Speaker 13: I've called the Victorian disease, and that is that there's
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Speaker 13: been no hunger for government at all, no wish to
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Speaker 13: take the Victorians in a different direction than to restore
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Speaker 13: some semblance of order in the state. All they've been
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Speaker 13: interested in is taking a new job with new paywise
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Speaker 13: and get about their business and have a nice time. Now,
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Speaker 13: this is serious, and it really does. I mean, I
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Speaker 13: heard Michael's comments referred to. It does represent a serious
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Speaker 13: change in someone who is truly hungry for government, who
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Speaker 13: is prepared to fight tooth and nail, and that means bloody.
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Speaker 13: I mean on earth was he doing going to China
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Speaker 13: last week? Seriously, when you've got all those problems at home,
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Speaker 13: you don't go to China. You stay right at home
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Speaker 13: and you fight day and night. You're up, but six
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Speaker 13: o'clock you're monitoring the news. At five point thirty, you're
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Speaker 13: on the airwaves because you want your message out there
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Speaker 13: first thing of the day. So if she's got that energy,
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Speaker 13: and she's got to know how she's got people around her. Well,
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Speaker 13: good luck, but otherwise it's a continuation of the Victorian disease,
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Speaker 13: which we have to quarantine to Victoria, not let's spread
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Speaker 13: to Canberra.
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Speaker 2: Steve So, while she does have cross factional support, and
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Speaker 2: it was a cross factional team who visited Brad Batten
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Speaker 2: to deliver the shock news to him this afternoon that
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Speaker 2: there would be a challenge to his leadership tomorrow, my
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Speaker 2: understanding is that she is that Jess Wilson isn't is
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Speaker 2: considered at least more progressive than Baden. She's not strictly
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Speaker 2: from the conservative faction, I don't believe, but in such
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Speaker 2: a woke state as Victoria, perhaps this is what's needed
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Speaker 2: to finally defeat this terrible government.
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Speaker 12: Maybe she holds a heat seat in the eastern suburbs
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Speaker 12: around Q And you know, I should tell you that
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Speaker 12: she was the only Victorian Liberal to publicly support the
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Speaker 12: Voice referendum in Victoria when the referendum was held, and
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Speaker 12: of course more than sixty percent of Victorians voted against
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Speaker 12: the Voice. So that gives you an idea about her
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Speaker 12: progressive values. She's only thirty five years old, as you
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Speaker 12: point out, she's been mentored by Josh Fridenburg though, and
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Speaker 12: we all regard Josh Fridenberg very highly in regard to
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Speaker 12: his political nouse. So if Josh Fredenburg thinks she's a talent,
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Speaker 12: then obviously she's a talent. Is a progressive liberal what
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Speaker 12: you need at this moment in time. I'm not too sure,
19:48
Speaker 12: and I don't even think the Liberals are too sure.
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Speaker 12: I think they've just looked around and said, look, there's
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Speaker 12: a year and one week to go. Come next Saturday.
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Speaker 12: If we are going to change leader because we don't
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Speaker 12: think Baton can get the job done, we must do
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Speaker 12: it now, and we must do it quickly because we're
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Speaker 12: running out of time. I don't know. I can't tell
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Speaker 12: you what the numbers are. I don't think anyone can
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Speaker 12: tell you what the numbers are. You'd have to imagine
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Speaker 12: that they've done the counting very carefully and they believe
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Speaker 12: they can get over the line tomorrow, because the biggest
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Speaker 12: disaster would be if Brad Batton survived by one or
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Speaker 12: two seats or one or two votes. That would be
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Speaker 12: a complete and utter catastrophe for the coalition.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you hope the result is comprehensive one way or
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Speaker 2: the other and just talking about the madness in Victoria.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is just the latest example we saw
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Speaker 2: over the weekend. The man accused of fire bombing the
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Speaker 2: Addas Synagogue has been released on bail. This is a
20:48
Speaker 2: twenty one year old Giovanni Lawlu. He was granted bail
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Speaker 2: with twenty two strict conditions. This is despite a letter
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Speaker 2: written on behalf of the Addust Synagogue's congregation saying that
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Speaker 2: many would tell horrified to return after the fire.
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Speaker 3: And there was this genuine.
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Speaker 2: Sense of relief when the alleged perpetrators were arrested. So
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Speaker 2: ron when this is part of the major law reform
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Speaker 2: that is needed as well in Victoria.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, but there's the premiere pretending to be hardlined on
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Speaker 13: crime when we know that's not what she believes in.
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Speaker 13: And that's the ethos that's in their legal system down there.
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Speaker 13: The disturbing stories that come out of their legal system
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Speaker 13: down in Victoria are really really, I say, as a lawyer,
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Speaker 13: very disturbing and I just find that this man being
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Speaker 13: let out on bail is just appalling.
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Speaker 2: Just after it was fire bombed, I went down to
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Speaker 2: Melbourne and interviewed one of the men. The worshipers who
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Speaker 2: was inside, and he spoke about how frightened he was,
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Speaker 2: how he had to you heard the big explosion, had
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Speaker 2: to run for his life. Absolutely, that's the sense of
21:56
Speaker 2: they were concerned for their life.
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Speaker 13: One would common sense would say that this person should
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Speaker 13: not fee un bailed.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, unbelievable. All right, well it's another topic now.
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister Albanezi has pulled cold water on co hosting
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Speaker 2: COP thirty one. This is after Turkey suggested jointly leading
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Speaker 2: the climate summit. I mean, how would that even work?
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Speaker 2: Where would you have the stadiums? It's the meetings. It's
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Speaker 2: kind of bizarre. Steve Pennywong has refused to reveal when
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Speaker 2: she was questioned on Inside Is yesterday, just how much
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Speaker 2: the summit would cost Australia.
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Speaker 3: The reports so anywhere from.
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Speaker 2: One to two billion dollars. I mean, and yet the
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Speaker 2: government doesn't think this is worth discussing. You know, it's
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Speaker 2: not something we should know about. That the lack of transparency.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 12: Chris Bowen on his way to Brazil at the weekend,
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Speaker 12: he admitted, and I hadn't heard this figure before, that
22:51
Speaker 12: they'd already spent seven million dollars on going toward the
22:55
Speaker 12: bid to have COP in Adelaide seven million dollars on
23:00
Speaker 12: what what would you spend seven million dollars on preparing
23:04
Speaker 12: to host this COP summit? And how the hell could
23:06
Speaker 12: it cost one billion, let alone two billion dollars to
23:10
Speaker 12: have all of these people in South Australia. I mean, look,
23:13
Speaker 12: you know, I'm from South Australia, I'm from Adelaide, and
23:16
Speaker 12: you know I love the fact that they've got all
23:18
Speaker 12: these great sporting events there, including live golf and the
23:21
Speaker 12: gather around for the AFL. That we really need to
23:23
Speaker 12: spend all of that money on a summit that now
23:26
Speaker 12: when you look at the people who've turned up in Brazil,
23:29
Speaker 12: most of the world leaders don't go there anymore. Anyway,
23:32
Speaker 12: It's going to get less important as we get toward
23:35
Speaker 12: next year, not more important. This is just a vanity
23:38
Speaker 12: project for Bowen, who's completely, you know, unhinged about what
23:42
Speaker 12: we should be doing on the economy. I mean to
23:45
Speaker 12: hear him say they've spent seven million dollars and then
23:47
Speaker 12: he fell off a chair.
23:50
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable about any project for Albanezi as well. I'd say,
23:55
Speaker 2: just before we go, I just want to touch on
23:56
Speaker 2: this really sad story. Over the weekend, a three year
24:00
Speaker 2: old mother, saman Vitha Dareshwa, was killed when she was
24:06
Speaker 2: struck by a car in Sydney's Northwest.
24:08
Speaker 3: She was eight months pregnant.
24:11
Speaker 2: She had a three year old toddler with her as
24:13
Speaker 2: well at the time. A nineteen year old p plater,
24:18
Speaker 2: Aaron Papizoglu, has now been charged over their deaths, and
24:22
Speaker 2: he was refused bail on Sunday. The Daily Telegraph reports
24:26
Speaker 2: that while he was in his cell, he allegedly kept
24:28
Speaker 2: asking about the state of his BMW. Now, the mother
24:34
Speaker 2: was walking with her husband, as I said, also her
24:35
Speaker 2: three year old son. They weren't injured, but you know,
24:39
Speaker 2: imagine that the three year old growing up witnessing his mother,
24:43
Speaker 2: an unbornd sibling being killed like that. Just terrible Bromwin,
24:49
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, terrible accident.
24:51
Speaker 13: Having been pregnant, you know what being eight months pregnant
24:54
Speaker 13: feels like, what you feel like about bringing a new
24:57
Speaker 13: life into the world, and the and the child lost
25:01
Speaker 13: like that, It just is so senseless and it's just
25:04
Speaker 13: so tragic.
25:06
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time, Steve Price. Great
25:08
Speaker 2: insights into the leadership challenge We'll see where it goes tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 13: Now.
25:14
Speaker 2: President Trump has publicly urged his fellow Republicans in the
25:17
Speaker 2: US House of Representatives to now back the release of
25:22
Speaker 2: government records linked to the Epstein case, and as you know,
25:26
Speaker 2: he previously opposed such a move. Trump wrote on truth
25:30
Speaker 2: Social that House Republicans should vote to release the Epstein
25:33
Speaker 2: files because we've got nothing to hide. Now, this comes
25:37
Speaker 2: a bit of feud with his one time supporter, Congresswoman
25:40
Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green. She's been calling for the release of
25:43
Speaker 2: the files, and over the weekend, Trump slammed her as
25:46
Speaker 2: wacky and a traitor. Let's bring in now Sky News
25:51
Speaker 2: contributor Kosher Gada, Now Kosher. This issue of the Epstein
25:54
Speaker 2: files was starting to impact on Trump, particularly Marjorie these campaign.
26:00
Speaker 2: Do you think this is why we've seen this change
26:03
Speaker 2: in position.
26:05
Speaker 14: I think it's certainly part of it. Marjorie has been
26:07
Speaker 14: a stall wart on this issue, even though she's copying
26:10
Speaker 14: the ire of Trump for sure, which is not helpful.
26:14
Speaker 14: Many would say, don't fire under the tent within your
26:16
Speaker 14: own party. But there is a bit of a civil
26:18
Speaker 14: war going on in multiple issues.
26:19
Speaker 3: On the right right now.
26:21
Speaker 14: The other. I think the bigger issue too, is he's
26:23
Speaker 14: finally getting the messager reading the room in terms of
26:26
Speaker 14: what his base wants, and the base has not actually
26:28
Speaker 14: been happy. This is one of a couple of issues
26:30
Speaker 14: where the base is not happy with how Trump and
26:32
Speaker 14: his administration have handled things around the Epstein files, because
26:36
Speaker 14: they are trying to be the most quote transparent administration
26:40
Speaker 14: in history, and there's sort of this cloud of opacity
26:43
Speaker 14: really around Epstein still, so the issue sort of gets conflated,
26:48
Speaker 14: and there's this umbrella term of the Epstein files, which
26:50
Speaker 14: means different things to different people. The left and the
26:53
Speaker 14: Democrats are trying to tar Trump with that and sort
26:56
Speaker 14: of come up with guilt by association, and I think
26:58
Speaker 14: he's trying to get in front of that and say
27:00
Speaker 14: there's nothing there. But the base is more interested in,
27:03
Speaker 14: you know, who are these other very powerful people and
27:05
Speaker 14: names that keep popping up around Epstein? Who was he really?
27:08
Speaker 14: Did he actually commit suicide? You know what happened? Those
27:11
Speaker 14: kinds of questions are still unanswered, and the base wants
27:14
Speaker 14: to know more. So I think that's why he's saying that.
27:16
Speaker 14: That said, I don't know that these files when they
27:18
Speaker 14: get released are going to have much more to them,
27:20
Speaker 14: but it feels like a little bit of a drip
27:21
Speaker 14: feed of extra details here and there.
27:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that batch that was released last week, twenty
27:27
Speaker 2: thousand files. They obviously just did control f Trump release
27:31
Speaker 2: the three emails on him, and you know the rest
27:33
Speaker 2: everyone's still trolling through. Now, Trump welcomed former Jahadis turned
27:38
Speaker 2: Syrian president Ahmed al Shara. This is the first Syrian
27:41
Speaker 2: president to set foot in the White House.
27:44
Speaker 3: Now.
27:44
Speaker 2: I thought this was so funny because, in classic Trump form,
27:48
Speaker 2: he joked about how many wives he has.
27:51
Speaker 1: Frank's get read over things.
27:53
Speaker 2: I have more here circus.
27:56
Speaker 6: Okay, so what.
27:57
Speaker 8: We'll do is just take that, Joe, what is it?
28:00
Speaker 10: And then the other one is she went somebody wants.
28:06
Speaker 8: As I never know?
28:07
Speaker 3: Right, you never know?
28:09
Speaker 2: All right, Well, Koisha, can we expect to see animal
28:13
Speaker 2: serious tonight from Syria, perhaps joining the Abraham Accords.
28:19
Speaker 14: You know, that's definitely an overarching umbrella again that Trump
28:24
Speaker 14: has been interested in since the first term. Made a
28:26
Speaker 14: lot of progress there had a bit of a setback
28:28
Speaker 14: in the Biden years, and that's definitely something he's passionate about.
28:31
Speaker 14: The other thing too, that I think the symbolizes is
28:33
Speaker 14: he really is all about deal making and not ideology.
28:37
Speaker 14: So you know a lot of people were skeptical at
28:38
Speaker 14: best or quite angry actually it hosting this president who
28:42
Speaker 14: was formerly an al Qaeda operative, had a ten million
28:44
Speaker 14: dollar bounty on his head, and you know how the
28:46
Speaker 14: times have changed that approach. But he's taking the approach
28:49
Speaker 14: of I will do business with anybody and everybody in
28:52
Speaker 14: the world, good actors, bad actors, and if I can
28:54
Speaker 14: do something to improve America's national interest, improve global peace
28:59
Speaker 14: with Abraham Accord, then so be it. I will deal
29:01
Speaker 14: with whoever I need to deal with. So you know
29:03
Speaker 14: he's true to form, that's what he's doing. But he's
29:05
Speaker 14: definitely copying some flat from a lot of people back
29:07
Speaker 14: home who don't like it.
29:09
Speaker 2: And Trump is also set to meet with Saudi Arabia
29:11
Speaker 2: Crown Prince Muhammed bin Salman tomorrow. Now there have been
29:15
Speaker 2: reports and concerns that the US is reportedly weighing up
29:19
Speaker 2: whether to sell stealth fighter jets to Saudi Arabia as
29:23
Speaker 2: a mean to get this deal done and to strengthen
29:26
Speaker 2: the alliance. The concerns are that giving Saudi Arabia the
29:30
Speaker 2: planes and the technology behind it could be dangerous given
29:35
Speaker 2: Saudi's close strategic ties with Russia and China. And then
29:39
Speaker 2: this also opens the question of the threat it would
29:41
Speaker 2: pose to Israel.
29:45
Speaker 14: So in the purest of forum, there are people who believe,
29:48
Speaker 14: with America first or America only, we shouldn't be selling
29:51
Speaker 14: any of this high tech equipment to any country because
29:54
Speaker 14: once you do, you never know where it winds up.
29:56
Speaker 14: There's black markets for things, things can get stolen, secrets, ipa,
30:00
Speaker 14: et cetera kind of leak out into the world, and
30:02
Speaker 14: friends and foes alike can get their hands on it.
30:05
Speaker 14: In the more pragmatic view, which seems to be Trump's
30:07
Speaker 14: approach with these things, again, he's looking to make deals.
30:10
Speaker 14: There's a monetary aspect that you know, you're running a
30:13
Speaker 14: business and this is a great product. He looks at
30:15
Speaker 14: America as a business in some ways, it's a great
30:17
Speaker 14: product that we make that nobody else does. Let's try
30:19
Speaker 14: and monetize it in the most simplistic of terms.
30:22
Speaker 3: And then more.
30:22
Speaker 14: Deeply, again, is there something there with getting more allyship
30:27
Speaker 14: from them Abraham Accords, possibly even maybe helping Israel since
30:30
Speaker 14: Trump is very pro Israel, that is there some sort
30:33
Speaker 14: of deal behind the scenes that we don't see, where
30:34
Speaker 14: if we sell this equipment to you, you're going to
30:37
Speaker 14: strengthen your your allyship or at least not maybe do
30:40
Speaker 14: the kinds of things that otherwise Sally Riba might be
30:42
Speaker 14: prone to do with Israel. So we'll never know all
30:44
Speaker 14: the details in the back room and how those things,
30:47
Speaker 14: the consequences, both intended and unintended, pan out. But that's
30:51
Speaker 14: I think always what he's jostling with. How can you
30:53
Speaker 14: take the leverage that America has and figure out a
30:56
Speaker 14: way to come out ahead with it, even if it
30:59
Speaker 14: means some link things to actors that we traditionally wouldn't
31:02
Speaker 14: want to are doing business with players that we typically
31:04
Speaker 14: wouldn't do.
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Speaker 2: Fascinating, all right, Coaching Gada, thank you so much, appreciate
31:09
Speaker 2: your time.
31:10
Speaker 3: Now still to come.
31:11
Speaker 2: Anthony Albanesi tries and fails to copy Taylor Swift in
31:16
Speaker 2: an embarrassing performance, and the tech giant that loves lecturing
31:21
Speaker 2: all of us on climate action has now blown its
31:24
Speaker 2: travel emission targets by one hundred and thirty five percent.
31:29
Speaker 3: That's after this quick break.
31:35
Speaker 2: Well, the latest red Bridge pole has painted more bad
31:39
Speaker 2: news for the Coalition, with their primary vote falling five
31:43
Speaker 2: percent this month to a record low of twenty four percent,
31:46
Speaker 2: while labor jumped four percent to thirty eight Support for
31:50
Speaker 2: One Nation rows four points to a record high for
31:54
Speaker 2: this poll of eighteen percent. It's not a big gap
31:57
Speaker 2: there between the Coalition and One Nation, which is extraordinary.
32:01
Speaker 2: What joining me now to discuss is the Nightlyes chief
32:03
Speaker 2: writer Aaron Patrick. Aaron, great to see you as always.
32:06
Speaker 2: So this comes as leadership speculation is mounting. Susan Lee
32:11
Speaker 2: is under a lot of pressure. This is not the
32:14
Speaker 2: first in really terrible polls. You know, what do you
32:19
Speaker 2: think is going to happen here in the new year
32:22
Speaker 2: in terms of her leadership?
32:24
Speaker 15: Well, this poll I think has got everyone really spooped.
32:26
Speaker 15: You know, they're showing that Susan Lee's rating is preferred
32:31
Speaker 15: Prime minister is ten percent, So that's pritten off that
32:36
Speaker 15: far from zero, and the coalition is behind in every
32:41
Speaker 15: single demographic group from millennials to baby boomers. So this
32:46
Speaker 15: is I think center real tremor of fear right through
32:50
Speaker 15: liberal party ranks and people are seriously discussing, well do
32:53
Speaker 15: we move on her?
32:54
Speaker 6: She would replace her? It's a live discussion.
32:57
Speaker 2: Is it some comfort that the support it's going to
33:00
Speaker 2: One Nation and not to labor.
33:02
Speaker 15: I think they're losing votes on both sides, the left
33:04
Speaker 15: and the right. So what seems to have happened is
33:06
Speaker 15: is the Conservative voters don't think that Susan Lee represents
33:10
Speaker 15: them and the one Nation primary vote is doubled in
33:14
Speaker 15: six months according to red Bridge, So that's a serious
33:18
Speaker 15: loss of loss of votes to the right.
33:20
Speaker 6: On the left.
33:21
Speaker 15: Still, there's some soft voters who still haven't moved back
33:24
Speaker 15: to the Liberal Party after the election loss at the
33:27
Speaker 15: start of the year.
33:28
Speaker 2: So that well not since really the Scott Morrison election,
33:30
Speaker 2: that's right, since then for the Teals.
33:34
Speaker 15: So those Teal voters, those I guess you call them
33:37
Speaker 15: on the center, they aren't going back to the Liberal
33:40
Speaker 15: Party either. So this is a very very serious situation
33:42
Speaker 15: they're in.
33:43
Speaker 2: So the discussion now within the party and as I
33:45
Speaker 2: said at the start of the show, Susan Lee is
33:48
Speaker 2: safe for now, but in the new year it's only
33:51
Speaker 2: a matter of time.
33:53
Speaker 3: Within the party.
33:54
Speaker 2: There's two live candidates, two possibilities.
33:57
Speaker 3: Andrew Hasty or Angus.
33:59
Speaker 2: Tays, what do you think the prospects of who will
34:03
Speaker 2: get the support and who would be strongest to lead
34:06
Speaker 2: the party.
34:06
Speaker 15: Well, this to me shows how much the party has
34:08
Speaker 15: changed just in six months, because now we're only talking
34:11
Speaker 15: about two candidates from the conservative wing of the party.
34:15
Speaker 15: And my understanding is the party sort of split in
34:17
Speaker 15: four ways. You've got both factions, the left and the right,
34:21
Speaker 15: are split internally as to who they support, and so
34:25
Speaker 15: Andrew Hasty paradoxically seems to have more support in New
34:30
Speaker 15: South Wales than Angus Taylor. Andrew Hasty is from Perth,
34:34
Speaker 15: Angus Taylor's from New South Wales.
34:37
Speaker 6: And it's sort of a.
34:38
Speaker 15: Test between do you want someone much older, sixteen years older,
34:42
Speaker 15: more experience, or do you want someone sort of.
34:45
Speaker 6: Young and a bit more radical, a bit more trump like.
34:48
Speaker 6: So it's a pretty big.
34:50
Speaker 3: Divide, generational divide.
34:53
Speaker 2: There's also this prospect now one option that's been suggested
34:57
Speaker 2: of Andrew Hasty Tim Wilson Tick So Wilson would be
35:01
Speaker 2: the deputy. He's a progressive, the only liberal who won
35:04
Speaker 2: a Teal seat back at the last election. Again, this
35:08
Speaker 2: is a generational but without that, without as much experience
35:14
Speaker 2: as someone like Angus Taylor.
35:17
Speaker 15: Well, it's a really tough position at their end, because
35:22
Speaker 15: do you go with what's safe or do you try
35:25
Speaker 15: something new that hasn't worked before. And Tim Wilson is
35:28
Speaker 15: a very dynamic politician. He did an incredible job winning
35:31
Speaker 15: back Goldstein from a teal and he's a new he'd
35:35
Speaker 15: bring a new face to the Liberal Party, an openly
35:39
Speaker 15: gay man, okay, which we never had running a major
35:42
Speaker 15: political party before. So I think it'd be really quite
35:45
Speaker 15: a potent ticket. At the same time, you know, Andrew.
35:48
Speaker 6: Hasty, some of his views are.
35:51
Speaker 15: Perhaps more on the popular side, and that Australia with
35:54
Speaker 15: his compulsory voting, might be a little bit uncomfortable with.
35:58
Speaker 15: For instance, you know, he wants to bring back car manufacturing,
36:02
Speaker 15: which both sides of politics have basically said that's part
36:05
Speaker 15: of the past.
36:05
Speaker 6: We just don't have the population to support it.
36:09
Speaker 2: Now just on a story that's on the front page
36:12
Speaker 2: of the Nightly where you work tonight.
36:14
Speaker 3: We'll bring it up if we can in a minute.
36:16
Speaker 2: This is at Lassie and the tech giant that loves
36:19
Speaker 2: lecturing us all on climate action has blown its own
36:23
Speaker 2: travel emission targets by one hundred and thirty five percent.
36:27
Speaker 2: And now this is fueled by the jet setting stuff,
36:30
Speaker 2: including the chief executive who flies a private jet.
36:33
Speaker 3: Now, Aaron, you know, this is.
36:35
Speaker 2: All very well, that busy people need to get around
36:37
Speaker 2: as quickly as they can, but I think Australians hate
36:41
Speaker 2: this kind of hypocritical preaching from billionaires.
36:46
Speaker 15: Mike canon Brooks is one of the Ridges men in
36:48
Speaker 15: Australia and he's been lecturing Australians for years that they
36:51
Speaker 15: need to cut their carbon emissions and it's easier to
36:55
Speaker 15: do that when you're a billionaire, or it should be
36:57
Speaker 15: easier to do that when you're a billionaire. Instead, he's
37:00
Speaker 15: gone and bought a bombed deer jet his staff for
37:02
Speaker 15: flying around the world. He's brought a Formula One racing team.
37:07
Speaker 15: So I think a lot of Australians will think this
37:10
Speaker 15: smacks of hypocrisy. And the problem is is that the
37:14
Speaker 15: subsidies involved in fighting climate change often hit the poorest
37:17
Speaker 15: hardest because it drives up the cost of power, cost
37:21
Speaker 15: of fuel, the cost of anything. So it's people down
37:24
Speaker 15: to the bottom society who really pay the most. I guess
37:28
Speaker 15: for rich people to tell us how to live our lives.
37:31
Speaker 2: And it's not just the power prices, but it flows
37:34
Speaker 2: through you know, that's pushing up inflation, which is keeping
37:38
Speaker 2: mortgage rates higher, cost of living higher.
37:41
Speaker 15: Every time you put these bed these costs into the
37:43
Speaker 15: economy like we're doing now at this massive energy transition.
37:48
Speaker 15: The snowy two point zero project was going to cost
37:50
Speaker 15: two billion dollars costing twelve billion. The cost go throughout society.
37:55
Speaker 15: That costs everything from buying a card to buying an avocado,
37:58
Speaker 15: so you just can't escape it. And the government says
38:01
Speaker 15: this is like the Industrial Revolution, but it's really just
38:05
Speaker 15: a bit of a vanergy project for the labor government
38:09
Speaker 15: to get these emissions down when Australia produces one percent
38:13
Speaker 15: of the world's carbon emission, so nothing we do change
38:16
Speaker 15: is global warming. Okay, it makes us feel better, makes
38:19
Speaker 15: some people feel better, it makes some people poorer.
38:23
Speaker 2: We're seeing this hypocrisy not just from Mike cannon Brooks,
38:25
Speaker 2: but even from the Royals.
38:27
Speaker 15: Well that's right, the Royal family probably the biggest of
38:29
Speaker 15: carbon emitters on the planet.
38:31
Speaker 6: They always fly around in private jets.
38:33
Speaker 15: Were also you know, the King Charles God bless him,
38:37
Speaker 15: certainly has been a big advocate for environmental policies and
38:41
Speaker 15: climate change throughout his whole life.
38:44
Speaker 3: Aaron Patrick, great to see you as always. I'm sorry,
38:46
Speaker 3: scratch feels quickly.
38:48
Speaker 6: There wasn't an angry reader. It's just an accident at home.
38:51
Speaker 3: Good or an angry dog this time not an angry dog.
38:55
Speaker 2: Inappropriate joke right, still to come the Albin Easy is
38:58
Speaker 2: cringe worthy imitation Ofaylor Swift and being a Republican Hollywood
39:02
Speaker 2: Now now is a kind to social suicide. Jenna Clark
39:06
Speaker 2: will have the latest on Sydney Sweeney's takedown next.
39:14
Speaker 3: Welcome back.
39:14
Speaker 2: Well, the Prime Minister was back at it today with
39:17
Speaker 2: yet another cringe worthy TikTok video that tried to copy
39:22
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift's viral dance start as you can see his
39:38
Speaker 2: moves when nahing like Taylor Swift's Aphelia, which begs the
39:43
Speaker 2: question why is the Prime Minister even engaging in embarrassing
39:46
Speaker 2: performances like this? We're joining me now, the Australians culture
39:50
Speaker 2: writer and commentator Jenna Clark.
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Speaker 3: Jenna, Now, this.
39:55
Speaker 2: Is the same strategy Albanezi used during the election to
39:58
Speaker 2: try win over young voters. Voters, but it's not a
40:01
Speaker 2: serious approach to governing, and let alone just how embarrassing
40:05
Speaker 2: those moves were.
40:06
Speaker 3: I mean she doesn't go like that in the video.
40:08
Speaker 3: There's no when she does that.
40:10
Speaker 2: I've watched so many of those Taylor videos and he
40:13
Speaker 2: did a really bad job.
40:15
Speaker 3: Yeah.
40:15
Speaker 16: Look, I have two left feet, so fair far free
40:19
Speaker 16: for me be to judge it on the fact that
40:21
Speaker 16: he can't really dance, but I find it's quite interesting
40:23
Speaker 16: and I think he's dancing kind of plays into the
40:26
Speaker 16: fact that he's never really across the detail or the
40:29
Speaker 16: finer detail around policy or things like that. So it
40:32
Speaker 16: really doesn't surprise me that he's not up to date
40:34
Speaker 16: with the choreography of.
40:35
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift at all.
40:36
Speaker 16: But look, was it fitting for the FM radio in
40:39
Speaker 16: the morning in Melbourne?
40:40
Speaker 3: Yeah?
40:41
Speaker 16: Probably, But I think there's so many other things for
40:43
Speaker 16: him to talk about, and look, I would have I
40:45
Speaker 16: would like to see Albert do less dancing and maybe
40:48
Speaker 16: more talking about how he's going to help Australians because
40:50
Speaker 16: don't forget he did get given free tickets to her
40:52
Speaker 16: ears to her last year. Yeah that's true, but also
40:55
Speaker 16: more serious interviews. You know, he goes on FM radio
40:58
Speaker 16: where it's a light she does the ABC.
41:02
Speaker 2: You know, he would never come on nighttime Sky. I
41:06
Speaker 2: can't tell you the number of times I've asked him,
41:07
Speaker 2: but any tough interviews you just wouldn't do it.
41:11
Speaker 16: That's such an interesting point, Sharry, because you noticed that
41:14
Speaker 16: someone like Matt Canavan or Andrew Hasty. I mean, they're
41:17
Speaker 16: seen as you know, the coalition hardman and they're always
41:19
Speaker 16: open to appearing on whether it be Sky News or
41:22
Speaker 16: whether it be the ABC, and they're always they're always
41:25
Speaker 16: up for it for a combative sort of argument or debate,
41:27
Speaker 16: and it's never it's never unfriendly, it's never combative. They're
41:30
Speaker 16: just there to talk about you know that they're talking
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Speaker 16: points and things like that. So it is interesting that
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Speaker 16: Albo does seem to tend to hide in the bushes
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Speaker 16: and on TikTok rather than coming find someone like you good.
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Speaker 3: Self, Thank you exactly.
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Speaker 13: Jenna.
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Speaker 2: You've written about Sydney Sweeney. You write that she could
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Speaker 2: be a legitimate star and instead she's become Hollywood's punching
41:48
Speaker 2: bag for those who are mad about everything. She's reportedly
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Speaker 2: a registered Republican. There was that Good Genes advertising scandal
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Speaker 2: that we covered here in the show, and she's defended
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Speaker 2: this recently in an interview.
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Speaker 3: Have a look you.
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Speaker 10: Is there something that you want to say about the
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Speaker 10: ad itself. The Sydney Sweeney has greet geans, do you
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Speaker 10: have ad spoke for itself?
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Speaker 2: But Janna, this is part of this broader trend in
42:18
Speaker 2: Hollywood where if someone could possibly be a Republican, you know,
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Speaker 2: there's this massive cultural pushback against them.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
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Speaker 16: Look, Hollywood loves to talk about diversity, they love to
42:31
Speaker 16: hire on diversity. It's all about diversity until that issue
42:35
Speaker 16: of diversity comes to political persuasion or opinions or values,
42:38
Speaker 16: and then all bets are off.
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Speaker 3: It is so interesting that Sidney Sweeney is.
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Speaker 16: Of course, she's beautiful, she's blonde, she's white, she's blue eyed,
42:45
Speaker 16: so she sort of fits the bill for being that
42:47
Speaker 16: stereotypical beautiful American bombshell actress. The problem is she also
42:52
Speaker 16: has bombed the box office three consecutive times now.
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Speaker 3: But that's not to strip away her.
42:56
Speaker 16: Wonderful performances on hit shows on Netflix like Euphoria, But
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Speaker 16: she doesn't garner the same sort of attention because she
43:02
Speaker 16: doesn't really play those games, like as you saw on
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Speaker 16: that interview with GQ magazine and that very patronizing question
43:08
Speaker 16: about talking about the genes ad which played on her
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Speaker 16: good genes or her great genes, and I think the
43:13
Speaker 16: fact that she doesn't play along with that sort of
43:15
Speaker 16: makes her an easy target for all these progressive, picnic girls.
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Speaker 2: I just love to pick on her, and she doesn't
43:21
Speaker 2: feel like she has to defend herself, which is terrific refreshing.
43:27
Speaker 2: Just before you go, you've got another piece out on
43:30
Speaker 2: how Vogue has officially declared boyfriends as embarrassing. This is
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Speaker 2: now entering the gender wars. So what is this new trend? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's really interesting.
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Speaker 16: Vogue, the British Vogue edition, published a piece online a
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Speaker 16: couple of weeks ago, and there's been numerousing pieces written
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Speaker 16: about it. But I think it's really hard to extract
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Speaker 16: this sort of like what people would consider just to
43:51
Speaker 16: be a fashion bible's take on it. But it's the
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Speaker 16: fact that a lot of straight women are now hiding
43:55
Speaker 16: their boyfriends from their social media platforms. You know, they're
43:58
Speaker 16: posting them without their faces being shown that because they
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Speaker 16: don't want that to impact the thinking that their content
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Speaker 16: is going to be considered to be dull and boring
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Speaker 16: now that they've got a boyfriend and a coupled up.
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Speaker 3: And I think it really goes off the back of
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Speaker 3: the fact that we're seeing this.
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Speaker 16: Explosion of the traadwife movement, specifically in the United States,
44:16
Speaker 16: where there is this push to increase the birth rate,
44:19
Speaker 16: there's a push towards and an increase in organized religion
44:22
Speaker 16: and conservative values.
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Speaker 3: For many young women.
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Speaker 16: And I think that on the progressive side, this is
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Speaker 16: probably a clap back to say, you know what, the
44:28
Speaker 16: first time ever women don't need men, and they don't
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Speaker 16: need them on Instagram, they probably don't need them in
44:33
Speaker 16: real life.
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Speaker 3: So make of that what you will.
44:35
Speaker 2: Jenna the Australian's culture reporter, and there's a whole new
44:38
Speaker 2: culture section of course in the Australian.
44:40
Speaker 3: So great to have you back on the show. Thank
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Speaker 3: you so much.
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Speaker 2: After the breakers, moderate liberals have made front page news
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Speaker 2: declaring some would switch their support to Andrew Hasty. Well
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Speaker 2: one moderate liberal would join me on the show next.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back and let's bring in now Leah blythe Leah,
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Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining me on the show,
45:04
Speaker 2: first time you've been on the program.
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Speaker 13: Now.
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Speaker 3: Frecdently is front page news.
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Speaker 2: In the Australian Today and the story originally broken by
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Speaker 2: Peter van Ancelin in the Daily Mail yesterday that some
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Speaker 2: of the moderates are now shifting their support for Andrew
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Speaker 2: Hasty as a Conservative. Do you think Hasty would make
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Speaker 2: a good future leader of the party.
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Speaker 7: Look, I think we have a leader in Season Lee.
45:31
Speaker 7: The Patty Room elected her back in May. It's a
45:36
Speaker 7: little disappointing that we've come up with an incredible policy
45:40
Speaker 7: position on net zero that I think we should be
45:43
Speaker 7: prosecuting with the Australian people on and not talking about ourselves.
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Speaker 3: And I've been.
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Speaker 7: Busy since we made that decision on Sunday and haven't
45:53
Speaker 7: really had a chance to see what some of my
45:55
Speaker 7: colleagues are up to because I've been busy out there
45:58
Speaker 7: selling this net zero policy. In terms of leaders and aspirations,
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Speaker 7: I have great respect for a number of my colleagues,
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Speaker 7: including Andrew Hasty, But at the moment, we have a
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Speaker 7: leader and my support is behind her.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So it seems in some of the reports like a
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Speaker 2: couple of the moderates are wanting the Conservatives to do
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Speaker 2: the dirty work for them and actually call a leadership spell.
46:23
Speaker 2: But my understanding is that the Conservatives are currently backing
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Speaker 2: Susan Lee and there's not going to be any spell
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Speaker 2: against her this year certainly.
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Speaker 3: Is that your read of the situation.
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Speaker 7: And I have the very privileged position of sitting in
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Speaker 7: shadow ministry and I wouldn't be sitting there if Susan
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Speaker 7: didn't have my support. I believe in that long standing
46:47
Speaker 7: convention that if you sit in the shadow ministry, you
46:49
Speaker 7: support the leader.
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Speaker 3: If you're not able to do that.
46:52
Speaker 7: You resign your position. And I think there are a
46:55
Speaker 7: number of people who sit in shadow ministry and shadow
46:57
Speaker 7: Cabinet who are there assume their support is behind the leader,
47:01
Speaker 7: as mine is.
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Speaker 3: And you know, all of this talk of.
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Speaker 7: Leadership challenges I think really detracts from, as I said,
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Speaker 7: what is a great policy that puts the Australian people first?
47:12
Speaker 7: And we've got a lot of work to do to
47:13
Speaker 7: win back their trust and it would be nice if
47:17
Speaker 7: we could start doing that rather than speculating on leadership
47:21
Speaker 7: when we have a leader who's allowed us to reach
47:24
Speaker 7: this policy position.
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Speaker 2: As well as campaigning on net zero, we saw Susan
47:29
Speaker 2: Lee today start to speak about start to speak more
47:33
Speaker 2: about immigration, putting that front and center. How crucial will
47:38
Speaker 2: this fight be before the next election.
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Speaker 7: I think zero is the first step in what looks
47:45
Speaker 7: like very promising values based policy for the Liberal Party.
47:50
Speaker 7: I would argue that we haven't tried in this sort
47:54
Speaker 7: of arena for a number of years now, and I
47:57
Speaker 7: think that's reflected our results. It's at the ballot box
48:01
Speaker 7: and at the elections. So I think net zero is
48:04
Speaker 7: the first step. And of course we've got some other challenging,
48:08
Speaker 7: sort of tackling policy positions on things like immigration, and
48:13
Speaker 7: that should be the next cab off the rank, because
48:15
Speaker 7: I think the Australian people need some policies that are
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Speaker 7: putting them first, and I think Labor are pretty reckless
48:22
Speaker 7: in terms of what they're doing, certainly in immigration, and
48:26
Speaker 7: we've got to make sure that we're looking after hard
48:29
Speaker 7: working Australians because they're the ones that are paying for
48:32
Speaker 7: Labour's missteps when it comes to policy decisions.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if you campaign on net zero and immigration,
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Speaker 2: that'll certainly be a point of difference with the Albanezi government.
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Speaker 2: Leah Blithe, great to have you on the show for
48:44
Speaker 2: the first time.
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Speaker 3: Really appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, and that's all we've got time for today.
48:49
Speaker 2: Thank you for your company. I'll see you as usual
48:51
Speaker 2: tomorrow at eight pm. But don't go anywhere now, because
48:54
Speaker 2: you'll be thrilled to know that Paul Murray is back.
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Speaker 3: He's in the man cave. Great to have you back
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Speaker 3: fall and here he is.