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Patriots Unfiltered 3/5: Team/League News, Free Agency Buzz, Pats Draft Prospects · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 2: at j Let's Stadium, and there's a lot to talk about,
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  Speaker 2: not a lot of it having to do with the Patriots,
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  Speaker 2: but some of it. Some big news yesterday and then
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  Speaker 2: what that all means. It's Paul, it's Evan, it's Deuce,
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  Speaker 2: it's Me, it's Matt, and the booth and free agency
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  Speaker 2: is here. Basically, it's the new league. Season hasn't kicked
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  Speaker 2: off yet, but moves are being made, Trades are being made.
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  Speaker 2: Things are happening, players are moving around, and the question
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  Speaker 2: is how much of it will the Patriots be involved in?
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  Speaker 2: So let's let's get right into it. Eight five to
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  Speaker 2: dot com as the email address the pay. The Patriots
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  Speaker 2: didn't announce anything yesterday, but there's a report that is
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  Speaker 2: pretty substantial that they have notified Stefan Diggs that they
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  Speaker 2: will release him once the league year opens up next week.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the Patriots news.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, and you're seeing Digs shout out to teammates and
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  Speaker 8: teammates shouting out to him. So it does seem like
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  Speaker 8: that is a correct report, not surprising. I mean, I
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  Speaker 8: think you knew that that the Stefan Diggs thing was
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  Speaker 8: going to come to a head sooner than later as
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  Speaker 8: free agency approached, and you know, talking to the guys
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  Speaker 8: obviously this morning. I mean my feeling was that you
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  Speaker 8: got what you needed out of Stefan Diggs last year
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  Speaker 8: for sure.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you needed a reliable guy.
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  Speaker 8: For Drake May in his second season, coming into you know,
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  Speaker 8: a new system with Josh McDaniels.
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  Speaker 4: You needed a leader in that room and you just
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  Speaker 4: needed somebody to set the tone.
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  Speaker 8: And I thought he did an outstanding job, he said,
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  Speaker 8: in the tone of the locker room. On the field,
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  Speaker 8: he was productive, certainly some of the biggest games in
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  Speaker 8: the regular season he came through.
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  Speaker 4: But I think you know this signals they're gonna maybe.
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  Speaker 8: Take a half step back to try to take two
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  Speaker 8: steps forward, and maybe more is on Drake May now
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  Speaker 8: this year to you know, be the leader of that group.
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  Speaker 8: But I think it talking to the guys, I think
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  Speaker 8: we all agree they need two more players now. They
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  Speaker 8: need two receivers.
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  Speaker 2: Even if they kept Diggs, they still needed one.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, they need now the guy probably if they kept Diggs.
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  Speaker 8: And now I think we're all uh, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So here's my thing. You know, I was thinking about
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  Speaker 2: it on my way up. And I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: this closes the book on Stefan Diggs, because Okay, they're
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  Speaker 2: going to release him, but maybe that's because they couldn't
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  Speaker 2: come to an agreement on a restructure. So what if
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  Speaker 2: he goes out there and there's nothing out there better
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  Speaker 2: than what the Patriots had on the table. Is there
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  Speaker 2: a possibility he'd come back?
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  Speaker 9: The question is is it still on the table? Why
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  Speaker 9: wouldn't it be because they signed Alec Pierce, are traded for.
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  Speaker 2: Aj Berry both we just well, no, I said it,
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  Speaker 2: you said it, but you guys didn't agree that even
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  Speaker 2: if they kept Digs, they still need another player.
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  Speaker 9: Right, but now they're already paid that other like the
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  Speaker 9: other player. I was if they kept Digs, I was
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  Speaker 9: expecting the other player to come in the draft now
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  Speaker 9: that they had like that money was going to a
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  Speaker 9: wide receiver to be at the top of the depth chart.
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  Speaker 9: So if they go out and give twenty eight million
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  Speaker 9: dollars a year to Alex Pearce, then are they still
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  Speaker 9: going to then pay digs a market value contrace. Well,
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  Speaker 9: it's still going to have to be whatever his market value.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, maybe it was a haircut. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: like for who now, No.
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  Speaker 9: But I'm like, even if it was a haircut, even
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  Speaker 9: if it was a haircut, it's still going to be
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  Speaker 9: But even if he even if it's a haircut, compared
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  Speaker 9: to what he was going to make, it's still going
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  Speaker 9: to be money, like real money. Like we're not talking
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  Speaker 9: about him coming back to play for eight million dollars, Like,
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  Speaker 9: it's still going to be significant.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know the budget? Like, do you know that
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  Speaker 2: they can't do that?
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  Speaker 10: I'm not saying they can't.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely could do it, right, I'm just saying that I
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  Speaker 3: think it's I don't think that that's how they're gonna
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  Speaker 3: budget it.
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  Speaker 10: That's all. I'm not saying they can't do it.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm just saying that, like there's a
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  Speaker 2: chance it might be slim that I don't think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he goes out there and everybody else says, oh, a
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  Speaker 2: thirty three year old guy, we don't want to pay that,
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  Speaker 2: and he says, you know what, I liked it there
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  Speaker 2: until they came to me. But I like Rabel, I
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  Speaker 2: like the locker room. I might as well go back.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he already unfollowed on Instagram, so it's kind
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  Speaker 4: of I know.
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  Speaker 2: But these guys, I mean, really they're very impulsive.
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  Speaker 3: I never say never on these things. I would be
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  Speaker 3: this is as close to never. I don't see that happening.
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  Speaker 4: Market will be like though, That I think is the question.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I can only see that happening if nobody really
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  Speaker 8: wants exactly, you know, exactly I think.
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  Speaker 1: I want that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like that nobody will want him at all.
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  Speaker 3: I think, like literally the only team that would want
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  Speaker 3: him is the Patriot At what price?
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  Speaker 6: Paul, No, No, at any price.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't say that, But what I said, what if
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  Speaker 2: he goes out there and there's nothing better as far
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  Speaker 2: as an offer, But I don't.
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  Speaker 10: I just don't know why you think you would take that?
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  Speaker 2: Really well, I just don't know why the offer.
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  Speaker 9: I don't think the offer from the Patriots would still
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  Speaker 9: necessarily be there because they're gonna pivot like they're gonna
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  Speaker 9: like they're moving.
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  Speaker 1: But don't you.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you think they made the offer in mind that
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  Speaker 2: we're going to get somebody else.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know why would because I don't think
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  Speaker 3: that they I think that there's.
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  Speaker 2: What you're saying is like, if he accepted the offer
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  Speaker 2: they made, that's it for wide receivers.
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  Speaker 9: No, what I'm saying is that they're not gonna then.
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  Speaker 9: I don't think they were gonna then go turn and
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  Speaker 9: pay out Pierce thirty million dollars a year like the
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  Speaker 9: that there's a difference between we're done at wide receiver
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  Speaker 9: and now maybe we're just gonna go draft a cheaper
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  Speaker 9: player in in the draft, or we're gonna be in
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  Speaker 9: a different tax bracket and free agency.
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  Speaker 2: I don't I would hope they'd be a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more regressive aggressive considering how close they could be.
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  Speaker 8: But you're saying, and there's an offer, I mean, do
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  Speaker 8: we know there's made him an offer. I don't know
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  Speaker 8: that they released. I don't even know that.
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  Speaker 6: There's a couple of things that we don't know.
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  Speaker 3: And I know what the writers are writing is that
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  Speaker 3: the Patriots were interested in having him back, but not
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  Speaker 3: at that number.
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  Speaker 6: I have a lot of skepticism for that. I think
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  Speaker 6: this has as much to.
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  Speaker 3: Do with agreed the age and sort of the I
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  Speaker 3: don't know the tenuous nature of Stefan Diggs's career.
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  Speaker 6: Is that a polite way to put it. It's been a
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  Speaker 6: lot going on right now. No, but I'm not even
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  Speaker 6: talking about what he has going on right now.
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  Speaker 3: I think the Patriots hit a home run with Stefan
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  Speaker 3: Diggs in twenty five and I think they know it too,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that they look at it and say,
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  Speaker 3: ain't going to get any better than that. There's only
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  Speaker 3: one way to go from here in terms of his
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  Speaker 3: history now I get I think I said this about
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  Speaker 3: a month ago. Diggs has made some comments about, you know,
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  Speaker 3: sort of looking back at himself and wondering, why was
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  Speaker 3: I always so difficult?
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  Speaker 6: What There's a chance that he's matured.
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  Speaker 3: He'll be thirty three, and maybe he has sort of
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  Speaker 3: turned a corner with his maturity level. I'm a little
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  Speaker 3: skeptical of that, and I think that his track record
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  Speaker 3: has been good initially gets restless becomes a problem, and
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  Speaker 3: I think that They probably looked at it as much
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  Speaker 3: for that reason as anything to do with the money,
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  Speaker 3: because the money is extremely reasonable, which is why I'm
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  Speaker 3: very skeptical of no one's going to get like so
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  Speaker 3: they didn't want to give him twenty million, So what
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  Speaker 3: did they want to give him?
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  Speaker 2: Well, what if it was, like we talked about this
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  Speaker 2: last week, you know, a veteran incentive Leyden type of thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not taken that right, Yeah, like not when
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  Speaker 3: he has options, like if he has no options and
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  Speaker 3: he like, I just don't think guys like that take
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  Speaker 3: like usually they don't usually in sensive laden deals.
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  Speaker 9: I just think, you know, we've heard a lot about
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  Speaker 9: the money, and I understand that that's usually the biggest
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  Speaker 9: thing here. I think all kind of hit on it there.
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  Speaker 9: I think that there's a lot that goes into the
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  Speaker 9: Stefan Diggs experience and know a lot, and I think
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  Speaker 9: last year we saw some of it. They were able
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  Speaker 9: to power through a lot of it and keep winning
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  Speaker 9: in spite of it. But at the end of the
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  Speaker 9: season last year there was a lot going on with
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  Speaker 9: that guy.
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  Speaker 4: At the beginning of the season yeah too, Yeah, And
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  Speaker 4: I think that.
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  Speaker 6: Probably times in the middle that we don't even know
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  Speaker 6: about it.
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  Speaker 9: And he was always here for a good time, not
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  Speaker 9: a long time. He was always a bridge to when
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  Speaker 9: we're gonna hammer down and solidified, like who's Drake May's
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  Speaker 9: guy for the next four or five years. It was
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  Speaker 9: never going to be that long of a thing with
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  Speaker 9: Stefan Diggs.
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  Speaker 8: Everything, Sorry, Paul, I just thought to me, is everything
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  Speaker 8: it's through the Drake lens of giving Drake him and
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  Speaker 8: you know, showing Drake what this kind of player looks like,
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  Speaker 8: What does this player look like in practice? How do
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  Speaker 8: you develop that kind of rapport with that kind of player.
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  Speaker 8: I was blown away by Stefan Diggs. Like route running ability,
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  Speaker 8: it's still even coming off acl when we were in
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  Speaker 8: training camp, when we were in Minnesota stood out to me.
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  Speaker 4: But like I said.
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  Speaker 8: Earlier, I think now more goes on Drake and he's
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  Speaker 8: going to have to, you know, make up some of
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  Speaker 8: the difference with some of these guys. If it is
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  Speaker 8: you know, a new player like Alec Pierce or a
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  Speaker 8: rookie that you're going to now have to lean on.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, we said we were just throwing out there
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  Speaker 8: like Concepcion is that kind of player at the end
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  Speaker 8: of the first round. That's going to play inside. But
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  Speaker 8: there's going to be a learning curve and it's going
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  Speaker 8: to be up to Drake May to try to get
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  Speaker 8: him eventually up to the kind of level that Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: the fan.
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  Speaker 9: I mean from a football standpoint, that's the biggest risk
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  Speaker 9: that they're taking here is I mean ste Von Diggs
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  Speaker 9: had fifty five first downs for this team last year.
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  Speaker 9: You know, he was a chain moving you know, big
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  Speaker 9: time chain moving piece, you know, guy that third and
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  Speaker 9: six with the game on the line, like Drake May
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  Speaker 9: had somebody to go to and had a guy that
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  Speaker 9: he could rely on consistently in those positions. You know,
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  Speaker 9: if they signed Ali Pierce, I think we're all on
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  Speaker 9: board with that. I think he's a really good player,
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  Speaker 9: but that's not his game. No, ALB Pierce is not.
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  Speaker 6: They need a volume guy.
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  Speaker 10: They need a volume guy, they need a chain mover,
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  Speaker 10: whatever you want to call somebody.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody made a good point on one of Paul's shows.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was Albert Breer this morning about Pierce. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and he said in the Colts weaponry, he's probably like
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  Speaker 2: the fourth guy, fourth to fifth guy, and could that
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  Speaker 2: have kept down his production, whereas if he was now
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  Speaker 2: on a team that didn't have all the weapons that
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  Speaker 2: the Colts have, that maybe the production would naturally go up.
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  Speaker 2: And it wasn't a matter of so, it wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: matter of ability, it was just, you know, opportuning.
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  Speaker 9: I just don't think he's just not a chain mover,
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  Speaker 9: like he's a deep threat receiver that I think you're
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  Speaker 9: right that if he's targeted one hundred and twenty times
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  Speaker 9: instead of eighty eight times like he was last year,
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  Speaker 9: the production will go up.
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  Speaker 10: But he's going to be targeted down the field.
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  Speaker 6: And it depends what you consider production.
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  Speaker 2: I think volume of catches, a number of catches, because
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  Speaker 2: he had over twenty yards a catch.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so but does everything else go down? Probably the
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  Speaker 3: average soverage, that's what you have to weigh.
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  Speaker 6: What do you want?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'd rather have a fifty catch guy for a
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  Speaker 3: thousand yards than an eighty five catch guy for one
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  Speaker 3: thousand yards person, But you need the eighty five catch
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  Speaker 3: guy for all the reasons. Evan just said he had
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  Speaker 3: a guy who moves the chains too. But I would
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  Speaker 3: hate to lose the explosiveness that Pierce has. Maybe if
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  Speaker 3: he is in an offense that doesn't have. You know,
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  Speaker 3: if he becomes more of a focal point, maybe he's
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  Speaker 3: able to be a little bit more well rounded and
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  Speaker 3: catch seventy five balls but still give you that big
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  Speaker 3: play threat.
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  Speaker 6: But maybe maybe he doesn't, and I would.
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  Speaker 2: Worry about not having the big play. And he also
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  Speaker 2: also said the history of number two's going to a
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  Speaker 2: new team as a number one is bad. It rarely
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  Speaker 2: works out.
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  Speaker 9: I just don't like looking at it like that either,
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  Speaker 9: because like it's you're like trying to build an offense
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  Speaker 9: and fit a puzzle together, and like Pierce's skill set
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  Speaker 9: matches up really really well with Drake May's skill set
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  Speaker 9: in terms of the deep ball.
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  Speaker 6: That's why I'm intrigued by him.
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  Speaker 9: And so it's not like I don't know where he
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  Speaker 9: fits in the hierarchy of wide receiver ones and twos
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  Speaker 9: and threes, but like he has a skill set that
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  Speaker 9: the Patriots basically recreated with Kishan Boody and Matt Collins
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  Speaker 9: last year. And now instead of putting together those two guys,
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  Speaker 9: you're going to put together a guy on his own
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  Speaker 9: that is really really good and does that all on
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  Speaker 9: his own. What they're going to miss without Diggs is
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  Speaker 9: the guy that can move the chance and if that
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  Speaker 9: comes in the draft to deuce his point, like there's
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  Speaker 9: a developmental curve there where it's not going to hit
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  Speaker 9: immediately like it did with Diggs necessarily. And I look
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  Speaker 9: at the free agent market and I just I don't
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  Speaker 9: think that that guy is out there in free agency.
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  Speaker 10: Like I don't even think A. J. Brown is really
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  Speaker 10: that guy either.
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  Speaker 9: Like AJ Brown, I think is also still more down
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  Speaker 9: the field type of guy.
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  Speaker 6: I have a little talk we.
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  Speaker 3: Think of dos Can, I can, I can, I convention,
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  Speaker 3: Romeo Dobbs now, okay, yeah, better better, And and I's like,
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  Speaker 3: I just look at that as the area that if
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  Speaker 3: you say, like where's the fallout football wise from Diggs,
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  Speaker 3: you know, getting rid of Diggs, It's it's that like
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  Speaker 3: it's you know, a guy that was ultra efficient on
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  Speaker 3: laid downs, third and fourth down, you know, Baltimore a
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  Speaker 3: fourth down in the game, And where's Drake may going
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  Speaker 3: with the ball Stefon Diggs?
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  Speaker 2: You know? And so is there anyone on the roster
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  Speaker 2: now And I'm thinking Douglas, I'm thinking Chisholm, I'm thinking
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Williams that could be that no.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, not that they'd have to be a significant jump,
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  Speaker 8: I would say, but I mean, you know, to Evan's point,
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  Speaker 8: it's also the coverage that Diggs was pulling.
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  Speaker 4: It's the attention he's pulling.
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  Speaker 8: Now you have to replace that because that attention now
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  Speaker 8: will be spread out more. Just looking at the numbers
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  Speaker 8: from last year, he pointed out fifty one first down
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  Speaker 8: for Diggs with forty two for Hunter.
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  Speaker 4: Henry is the second and we know he's you know,
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  Speaker 4: getting up there too.
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  Speaker 8: So those are the two biggest reliable pieces for Drake
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  Speaker 8: May last year. They're gonna have to find reliable pieces
• 14:51
  Speaker 8: that he has chemistry with to keep the change.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: So thing with Pierce to Freddy, and I know if
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: you give him, you know, thirty million or whatever he
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: ends up getting, people are going to say, well, he'd
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: better be your number one.
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: I agree with these guys.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: I think Pierce probably would not just transform into your
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: number one. But like Evin explained about the match with
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: Drake May and in the offense and the piece of
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: the puzzle, I think it would be a home run
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: in a lot of ways. It doesn't necessarily mean he's
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: going to be your number one receiver. You need still more,
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: and I know people would probably bok at that look.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's much of a shot of the
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: Patriots signing Alec Pierce. I don't well if they get him,
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: but I but I would love to see him in
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: the offense.
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: I think it'd be a great.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: To get him.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: You'll see comparisons, believe it or not, to Milton Williams
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: in that Milton Williams didn't play every down and the
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: great can he do it. It's a great.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Comp I just don't think that they would be getting
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: him to do the same. I think they project But
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying is they projected Milton Whims.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: I think it's a great comp I do thanks.
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of similarity.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think that they would be looking for Peers
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: to do that much more differently than he's done. Whereas
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: Milton Williams, they absolutely thought this guy is going to
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: be in every down player for us. He's going to
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: play the run as well as the past. You know,
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: he's going to be more than he was in Philadelphia.
• 16:16
  Speaker 9: If you're like saying that Kaisham Boudi is like a
• 16:19
  Speaker 9: B minus B deep threat, al Pearce is like an
• 16:23
  Speaker 9: A minus a deep threat, and I just want to
• 16:25
  Speaker 9: sign him to be that. Like, I don't want to
• 16:27
  Speaker 9: sign him to come in here and expect him to
• 16:29
  Speaker 9: catch a hundred passes and start moving the chains and
• 16:32
  Speaker 9: be this complete receiver. I want him to be out
• 16:34
  Speaker 9: there to just go catch go balls from Drake May
• 16:36
  Speaker 9: for seventeen weeks. But that means that they have to
• 16:39
  Speaker 9: go and get somebody that can do the other stuff.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: And like you said, if you draft the Guy, there's
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: a learning curve there is.
• 16:45
  Speaker 9: I mean, I love Casey Concepcion, and I think that
• 16:48
  Speaker 9: putting him and Alt Piers together would be like a
• 16:51
  Speaker 9: on paper. You could see a vision there of having
• 16:54
  Speaker 9: two really dynamic players on the Guy together.
• 16:57
  Speaker 10: Yeah, but there's going to be a curve.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: But I like it, like it doesn't need to be
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: like a finished product in twenty six. I like the
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: idea of that you have a twenty six year old.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: He'll be twenty peerce will be twenty six when the
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: season gets underway in a rookie. Yeah, they might not
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: be as good as they're gonna be. The ceiling might
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: not get hit in twenty six.
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: I'm okay with that.
• 17:17
  Speaker 8: They're the new heart of the offense in your passing
• 17:20
  Speaker 8: offense too. Just to highlight too, I told these guys
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: Ale Pierce was on with Ky Adams sometime this weekend.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: Electric he said. He said that he thinks.
• 17:28
  Speaker 8: There will be more expectations of him as the top
• 17:30
  Speaker 8: wide receiver on the market. He's gonna sign a big deal,
• 17:33
  Speaker 8: he said. You know, I think I'm gonna have to
• 17:34
  Speaker 8: be more see more volume. But I rubber stamp everything
• 17:39
  Speaker 8: that these guys are saying about how it could fit together.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: I mean it's intriguing with Drake.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I mean it was. It was impressive though. When Breer
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: went down the list of the offensive weapons that the
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Colts have, they're pretty loaded.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor too. I mean you talk about him being
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: a deep threat.
• 17:53
  Speaker 8: I mean, team's got to focus on john especially early
• 17:55
  Speaker 8: in the season.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: They were they loaded or do they have a bunch
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: of They're kind of Green Bay's receiving court. They have
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of capable guys like Michael Pittman,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Josh Dollins, good player, Tyler Warren is I forgot about
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Tyler Warren, to be honest with you, he I think
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: he is going to be.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Special, But they they've got some so I can understand
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: why they felt like if if Peerce is demanding a
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: lot of money, I can understand why they said, you
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: know what, if you want to go, go because we're
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: not going to pay it.
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: I actually think he's going to be back.
• 18:25
  Speaker 10: I see.
• 18:26
  Speaker 9: I I think that that The Colts, to me, like,
• 18:28
  Speaker 9: are fools for what they're doing right now. Oh yeah,
• 18:31
  Speaker 9: I mean I think he's their best receiver by far,
• 18:34
  Speaker 9: and they their fan base is like up in arms
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: over this.
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, I mean I think he's going to be back.
• 18:39
  Speaker 10: The transition tagging Daniel Jones.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I didn't know that there was
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: still hope.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Evidently Pierce wanted to make sure before he signed with
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Indy that Jones was back, so they had this sort
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: of stile which is weird to me.
• 18:52
  Speaker 10: Forget that, especially injury.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: But but I think that they could have done it
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: like I would have. I would have transitioned Pierce and
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: bought time to get the contract done and then said this,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: this is we're going to retain what you know, because
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: now that takes away the pressure of Pierce leaving.
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you know, no, no, no, we're going to
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: be signed Jones too. We're just we're hammering out the
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: structure and give.
• 19:20
  Speaker 9: Us this is I mean, that regime, that brain trust
• 19:24
  Speaker 9: there is already kind of on thin ice. And if
• 19:27
  Speaker 9: they lose Al Pearson free agency and Daniel Jones isn't
• 19:30
  Speaker 9: a franchise quarterback, Gordon's.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Coming in hot anytime gets a free agency, as Bill
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: would say, you have to be prepared to lose him.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: You know, like I know that Indy probably thinks that
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: they are in a decent spot, but they're running no guarantee.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Coming off Achilles, and so I think I think it's
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: one of Evans guys. Jordan Schultz, somewhere between altercations that
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: reported that the Patriots had made an offer for a J.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Brown.
• 19:59
  Speaker 9: He's he's said that they they are preparing to be
• 20:02
  Speaker 9: very aggressive at the top of the wide receiver market
• 20:05
  Speaker 9: next week. Whether that's all a Pierce a J. Brown trade, whatever,
• 20:09
  Speaker 9: but he he made it sound like they're ready to
• 20:11
  Speaker 9: throw some money around at one of these top receivers
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: and and make something happen. So uh well, see, I
• 20:18
  Speaker 9: wonder how much of all of this too, Like Al
• 20:20
  Speaker 9: Pierce was not supposed to hit the open market, like
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: receivers of that caliber don't normally hit the open market.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: On my back of the envelope, remember, I.
• 20:31
  Speaker 10: Was reminded of that at the time.
• 20:32
  Speaker 8: But Fred like second or third second?
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: They both three picks after that was funny.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: He was on the back of the envelope.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Right, it was it was the three right, it was
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: the three guys and sky Moore?
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Is you wanted to see what you're you're forgetting to?
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: This is once I announced my back of the envelope.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: So are you going to get agency contract?
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: You get a lot of tastes around marketing, but I
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: don't get any of the futures. The future by okay, that.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Was a little glimpse in a Paul's computer broom.
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: We had a little quiz today on the ninety six
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: Patriots Paul plant just about I think I would say
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: ten of sixteen on order of the ninety six Patriots
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: season and the scores, Like.
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: The ask me the scores last year. I'm telling you
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: I couldn't do it.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: I was impressive. I don't know if there's anything so
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: when did.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: They kick in or you know, I don't know. It's
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: so like, is there some point where a year.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I remember.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now I know.
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: Oh my god, if you asked me to go through
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: the last Patriots season, I probably would struggle.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: I don't think I could give you the scores and
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: don't I don't know what happened yesterday. Give you the
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: first three anything after that, and then I can give
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: you the ANFC Championship game was ten seven.
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: That's about it. I don't even remember the score of
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: that Super Bowl.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Well at the.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: I left after I was walking out.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: All right. So the wide receiver situation is a situation
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: for the New England Patriots right now.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: So at the risk of sounding like a you know,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: like we work for Patriots dot com. Oh, they have
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: to say that I am really on board with the move.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: I think this was the right move to make. I
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: know Mike is thrilled because he never wanted the guy
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: in the first plis he won me over. And I'll
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: have to say, as long as there's a plan, I'm
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: on board.
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: That was the part.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Be like, I think they needed more than Diggs to
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: start with, and I've seen a lot of well, now
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: this opens up this and they have all the cap
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: space and they can do that. They've also created another
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: hole right, they've also created another because even though I
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: think it was the right move to move on from Diggs,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Diggs was everything that everybody has said about his impact
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: on the offense last.
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: Year, All of that is true.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: I saw one person say it was highly unlikely he's
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: going to duplicate a season like that. Why he just
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: did that coming off of torn acl He's only thirty three.
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: It's not like he's forty three.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Like, it's not reasonable to expect him to have another
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: good season too, right, Like, I mean again, long term,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: I love this move for the Patriots. I think this
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: makes all all the sense in the world with the Patriots.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: He did exactly what Mike.
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: Rabel could have prayed that he would do for him,
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: and they cut ties and they let him go. I
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: think that's perfectly reasonable. But you've created another hole, right, Yeah.
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: I just think that this is probably since Brady left,
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: the most desirable the Patriots have been for a wide
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: receiver and play here. So I think you're in a
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: much different position. Last year, they just needed to get.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: A star receiving someone to say yes, right, and he
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: was the one, the only one that did right.
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: And now I think that I wouldn't say, pick of
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: the litter. There's probably a little strong, but I think
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: that they are a contender for pretty much every big
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: name receiver that hits the market, whether it's trade or
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: free agency, because you have Drake May, you have cap Space,
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: and you have Mike Rabel and like you are a draw,
• 23:53
  Speaker 9: you are a draw to one of these guys, like
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: if you're Alec Pierce, Like, I can't think of a
• 23:57
  Speaker 9: better scenario for somebody like Ali Pierce with his skill
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: set to come play with this quarterback, like right, and
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: you know a J Brown, same thing.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I know AJ Brown.
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: It seems like it's kind of a J Brown or bust.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: And that's fine, But I I I I only disagree
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: with that because I don't think that there was ever
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: a thought that Alt Pierce was actually going to hit
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: the open market, because receivers, like I was saying earlier
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: that caliber do not usually hit.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: On Rather Brown Pierce pierers Yeah, because I love you,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: But because he's younger and you don't have to give
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: up the assets, his fit is clear better right now.
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think Brown that one's going to come
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: back and hot me.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Brown is a vastly superior player like his career career wise,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: not not even close. No, no comparison right now today,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: I think Pierce is a better player than Brown.
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: The things move though, to me, I think two weeks
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: ago said there's a lot of hard decisions to make,
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: and you know, do you want guys who are pretty
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: good for you back or do you want to try
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: to be better? And this to me signals like they
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: understan that and they're going to make some tough decisions
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: this year.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: They're willing to take a little bit of a step
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: back to this concept.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: The young guy. Where's he slated to go.
• 25:07
  Speaker 9: Back into the first round? I mean, I think thirty
• 25:09
  Speaker 9: one is probably is floor.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: So do you want to use thirty one on a
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: guy like that? Or do you want to use it
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: when someone who might make a more immediate impact?
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 25:16
  Speaker 10: I think he's going to make immediate impact?
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Oh you do?
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, It's not a project.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I thought we thought that he is going
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: to be a learning.
• 25:23
  Speaker 10: Curve, well for any receiver.
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, unless unless an edge that you totally
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: are enamored with. I'm on board with at that pick.
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: What helps Drake the most? Is it going to be
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: a developmental right?
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Tackle?
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Probably not at that spot.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: About that, you know, the best guard.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: I mean you look at it.
• 25:40
  Speaker 10: And pregnant on Yeah, I mean you can make a
• 25:42
  Speaker 10: case for it, know, but.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: You've got a chance to get a weapon next to
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Evan Lazar if they take another guard.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: I don't take the right guard this time left guard.
• 25:51
  Speaker 9: I've come around to it like a little bit and
• 25:53
  Speaker 9: just like the respect that like it's probably one of
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: the most glaring holes on the team. But it wasn't
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: twenty two too, and they just butchered it, so like
• 26:01
  Speaker 9: just pick a right like.
• 26:02
  Speaker 10: Put the good guard not. I didn't need not the
• 26:05
  Speaker 10: ut Chattanooga won no offense.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Like I feel bad for Cold Strange because my my
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: iy are with the pick had nothing to do with
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: who they picked. It was the position and everybody else
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: was like Cold Strange Chatternooga. Like to me, it was
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: just like guard first round.
• 26:21
  Speaker 10: I mean it was a combination of the two things.
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: No and then like storm of crap yeah you know, yeah.
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: But I think in order to set yourself up to
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: take a guard, you have to do a lot in
• 26:31
  Speaker 9: free agency, Like they would have to check a lot
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: of boxes in free agency to put themselves in a
• 26:36
  Speaker 9: position to have the flexibility to.
• 26:38
  Speaker 10: Take a guard to you.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is kind of branching out. I know,
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: we get a lot of other things to talk about,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: but your whole thing about the whole veteran guard. Yeah,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: you just freed up another few million in cap space.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Use it on one of the many veteran guards that
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: are available in free agency.
• 26:54
  Speaker 9: There's like half a dozen of these guys at varying
• 26:58
  Speaker 9: you know, price points, even if you don't want to
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: spend a ton of money on it because you're thinking
• 27:03
  Speaker 9: that you're going to turn it over to a younger
• 27:04
  Speaker 9: player eventually, like even a guy like Dylan Parhum, like
• 27:07
  Speaker 9: who played for McDaniels in Vegas.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: It's like eight guards available in free agency that I
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: know who they are.
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: I don't know any of the alignment.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in love with that idea.
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: And just you know something immediately you can do right now,
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: within the next week, to say we've added a really
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: good player to this offensive line. How's it all going
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: to play out? We don't have to figure it out
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: right now, but we know that we've already improved from
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: a month ago.
• 27:29
  Speaker 9: It reminds me of just a lot of them signing
• 27:31
  Speaker 9: Bradbury and Moses last offseason, where it doesn't put you
• 27:34
  Speaker 9: into a place where you have to start a rookie
• 27:36
  Speaker 9: in that spot or a young player. At least you
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: have somebody that's played the position before, that has experienced,
• 27:41
  Speaker 9: that has a resume in the league, Whereas like if
• 27:44
  Speaker 9: they draft another guard in the second or third round
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: and they're just throwing the dart and hoping that it
• 27:48
  Speaker 9: sticks in the training camp.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Like a stock.
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: They've they've thrown a lot of those starts in recent years,
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: you know, the City shows of the World, the Leyden
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: Robinson's the World.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: It's it's been hard to find, but I I love
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: that move.
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: And then you know you're continuing to build that leadership
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: because a lot of people have Jared Wilson mark for
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: that center spot. A lot of people have no Morgan
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: Moses is what thirty four to thirty five, he's going
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: to be aging out.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: You know, maybe you bridge the gap a little bit with.
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: That leadership by getting you know, left guard who's a
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: veteran as.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Well, and he can bridge the gap. Draft the right
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: tackle of the future and you've got some stability.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: All right. So what are some of the other stories
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: around the league that's going on in terms of trades,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: trades to the Rocky So Paul, before the show, you
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: were saying how you don't like what Kansas City did. Well,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: if you were a fan of Kansas City, you wouldn't
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: like that, and you wouldn't like what the Bills are
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: doing or did Oh.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: I don't hate what the Bills did, but I think
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: they need more than Dj Moore. The Bills reportedly have
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: reached an agreement to acquire DJ Moore from Chicago for
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: a mid round pick.
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: That's the only compensation I've seen.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: The Kansas City one, to me is a continuation of
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: what I've seen from the Chiefs in the Mahomes era,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: whereas they're allowing good players to get to contract time
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: and lee and it's it. You know, this is it
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: seems like they're cornerbacks in particular.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Maybe they're just so confident in their ability to draft
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: and develop corners because they've done.
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: It reasonably well.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: But Lugerious Sneid went, looks like Jalen Watson's gonna go now.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: Trent McDuffie.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: They traded to the Rams for four picks, including the
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: twenty ninth overall, which is I mean that, would you
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: trade Gonzales for the twenty ninth overall pick right now?
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't.
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: No, so so well.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: They're very comparable. They're both All pros. Actually, McDuffie's been
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: a first team All Pro and.
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: McDuffie's more of like a tackles better, more of like
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: a playmaker in that regard.
• 29:42
  Speaker 10: But in terms of cover talent.
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm like semantics.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying I wouldn't trade Gonzales right now for
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: the twenty ninth overall pick.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: Kansas City just did.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I know they got a few other picks,
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: but it's basically for a first.
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: Round pick, and I just think it's hill.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: You know, one of these guys all over against some
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: of them individually, you could say, oh that made sense.
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: So that made sense. This made sense. They basically reacted
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: Chris Jones, who they.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Made the highest paid, I believe, the highest paid defensive
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: player in football when he signed his deal in Mahomes
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: and I just said, let it Patrick, you figure it out.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: And now Evan's got a theory that maybe they don't
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: even think that Mahomes is going to play this year,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: and they're just completely punting on the season. I would
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: hate that. If I were Kansas City, I would despise it.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: There's no reason why Mahomes can't be ready to go,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: just like everybody else that comes back in six months
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: instead of twelve months from these serious injuries. Why you
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: would go into a season and take one of your
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: better players and just trade them for just you know,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: draft capital. I think it's a continuation that Kansas City
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: thinks Mahomes can fix all their problems and they don't
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: have to spend money. So I think that's a really
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: good there's a long way of me saying I think
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: it's a good development for the Patriots. Yeah, it's a
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: major hurdle in your conference that I don't think is
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: as good as it should be.
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: I mean, really, Rams one of the two best teams
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: all year, they had a really good player in their secondary.
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: I mean, they're going to be another tough, tough out
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: long as Matthew Stafford's stays or about that.
• 31:12
  Speaker 10: In the Super Bowl news what else?
• 31:14
  Speaker 9: Yeah, No, I think that you either way, we're on
• 31:16
  Speaker 9: the same page of this is good news for the Patriots.
• 31:19
  Speaker 10: I just I think Trent McDuffie's.
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: An awesome player, and I just look at it and say,
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: Mahomes is hurt in the middle of December. It wasn't
• 31:26
  Speaker 9: like Diggs was hurt in October when he tore his
• 31:28
  Speaker 9: acl Like this is it's not as much of a
• 31:31
  Speaker 9: runway that he has here to be ready for the
• 31:32
  Speaker 9: start of next season. I just look at what Kansas
• 31:36
  Speaker 9: City's doing the year they're coming off of, and I'm like,
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: do do they really feel like they're going to be
• 31:41
  Speaker 9: able to compete next year even if Mahomes comes back
• 31:43
  Speaker 9: at some point in the season. I just wonder if
• 31:47
  Speaker 9: they're looking at it as a long term play of
• 31:50
  Speaker 9: we're not really gonna be going for it next year,
• 31:52
  Speaker 9: so let's just load up on draft capital and have
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: a bunch of draft picks for twenty twenty seven that
• 31:57
  Speaker 9: we can kind of push everything in the middle.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: For So, I guess Kyler Murray has been told he's
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: going to be released, and I don't know if he's
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: been told yet, but the rumor is that Tua is
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: going to be released from Miami as well. Where do
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: these guys land?
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: So I have a question for you on the whole
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: is going to be released thing? Why do you think
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: they don't just release the players.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I think they tell him now because so that they
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: can get a head start on talking to people. But
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I think there's something about the league year financially that
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: makes the difference.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: No, but my the reason it has to happen before
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: they started. Like Stefan Diggs specifically, I believe on the
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: thirteenth is the eleventh, the first day of the I
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: think it's the thirteenth. These dude like six million, eight
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: six more million of his contract gets becomes guaranteed. So
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: obviously I understand why the Patriots want to release him
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: before that date because they don't want to be on
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: the hook for more guaranteed.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Why not just do it now?
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really know what precludes them from just
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: releasing a player.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Counting also, if you retain him and somebody swoops in
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: and wants to do a trade, you still have leverage.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Well that's why Miami's not going to trade. I'm not
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: going to just release to it because they're hoping, you know,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: probably beyond hope that someone comes in and says, well, yeah,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: we don't want to fight the rest of the league.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: We'll give you something and well, you know, we'll pay
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: some of the salary away, so.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: You'll let it out there that you're going to get
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: rid of them. So teams are now, yeah, that's probably
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: the answer. Is they hope and someone comes to them
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: and makes an offer. Us.
• 33:30
  Speaker 9: I feel like there's a pretty good chance that Kyler
• 33:32
  Speaker 9: Murray's playing in the AFCAS next year.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Well does he go to Miami or the Jets?
• 33:37
  Speaker 9: I mean, there's really only two places where he has
• 33:39
  Speaker 9: a clear path to start, you know, the other places
• 33:42
  Speaker 9: he would at least be competing with somebody, uh, you know, Minnesota,
• 33:45
  Speaker 9: Like I keep hearing that one, but like they're at
• 33:47
  Speaker 9: least going to give JJ McCarthy the start of the season.
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: Are you're assuming Rogers goes back.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: That's the only one that because I mean, I think
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh got in Cleveland. I think there's a lot of
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: teams that he would clearly be the starter for. I
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I don't Murray, I don't think that that sounds the
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: way that Cleveland's going like Cleveland is making it sound
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: like Deshaun Watson's in play for them right now.
• 34:07
  Speaker 10: Pittsburgh, I'm with you. If Aaron Rodgers doesn't go.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Back back then that would change it, right, I mean,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: I assume that he's going to do.
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: He doesn't know yet, but I keep hearing Minnesota, which
• 34:19
  Speaker 9: I have to think JJ McCarthy is going to at
• 34:21
  Speaker 9: least get the start of the season to try to
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: see if he can put it together.
• 34:26
  Speaker 10: Like it's pretty early. But Atlanta, Atlanta is the other one.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: But he's at least competing with Pennix, like it's I
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: don't think they're just going to hand him the job
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: or even like, you know, back to Indy. You know,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: is you know, if Daniel Jones's Achilles isn't.
• 34:39
  Speaker 9: Ready, great, a great system fit. But I don't like
• 34:43
  Speaker 9: they seem so in love with Daniel Jones that but is.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: He going to be I mean, if I mean, if
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: we are not assuming that Mahomes is going to be ready,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: we're going to assume on a much more serious.
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: Age that Daniel Jones is going to be ready.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: And again he's probably either way, he's only signing a
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: one year deal more than likely.
• 35:00
  Speaker 9: Well, I mean it's the offset language, right, So he's
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: gonna sign a one year deal for the minimimum. Yeah, No,
• 35:06
  Speaker 9: I that's a good one. I I just clean is past.
• 35:11
  Speaker 9: It is the Jets and the Dolphins like they're the
• 35:12
  Speaker 9: ones that have glaring open like starting quarterback jobs that
• 35:17
  Speaker 9: are available. It feels very Jets are Dolphins to me,
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: like that they always go for like some veteran with
• 35:23
  Speaker 9: the name would make some.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Sense, you know, for Kyler Murray to go to Miami
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: and you know, and have a guy like Jalen Waddle
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: to throw to, you know, an h hand in the backfield.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: There's at least a semblance of something there. In to
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Evan's point, he's gonna be the quarterback. It's not gonna
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: He's not gonna lose out to Quinn yours.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: You know, God think conversations.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, talk yourself into two is to my benefit
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: from like a Minnesota thing. You know, let me go there,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: get with Kevin O'Connell. Maybe I had a chance to
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: resurrect my career again with great weapons.
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: You know, I don't know.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Does Mac Jones end up anywhere?
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: I think he's going to have a market. Looks like
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: he doesn't. According to jeremy.
• 36:11
  Speaker 10: Follower, I think he's gonna have a trade.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: There's been no real market developing. The Green Bay kid too,
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Willis is going to go somewhere.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: It's a tough quarterback market. It's hard to talk yourself
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: into any of these guys.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, a lot of people thank Miami for Willis.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: I'm not sold on the lake Willis.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Chris writes in can we please stop with Alec Pierce?
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: He's not a game changer. His most productive year came
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: in a year where the Colts had a top two
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: run game in the league, and even at that, he
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: just barely passed a thousand yards. He's Taekwon Thornton on
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: a team with a run game, in.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: My opinion, have a thousand career yards now.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, He's not even remotely close to the
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: player thirty two year old Diggs is. So I'm curious.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I'm curious why a lot of people are acting like
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: he's a legitimate replacement. I'm okay if he's the number two,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: but him alone doesn't move the needle at all.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: It moves the needle for me.
• 37:05
  Speaker 9: Replacing Peers with like Kayshawn Booty and Mac Collins without
• 37:09
  Speaker 9: Peers doesn't move the needle. Like he's a much better
• 37:11
  Speaker 9: player than those two guys. I mean, no disrespect, but like.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: We're going to get into semantics and stuff and replacing
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: dig He's a completely different player than Diggs. He's not
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: gonna if you're looking for him to get that kind
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: of volume, then you're going to be disappointed. Yes, But
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: to say that he's he's not a difference maker. When
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: he averaged he led the league in yards per catch
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: and is like a thousand yard it's not like he
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: averaged twenty five yards per catch and had four hundred yards,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: which you know, like Chris Hogan.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Used to do.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: This is the guy who read a thousand yards and
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: led the league in yards per catch. It was only
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: like whatever twenty somebody he had the same year that
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Dicks did on half the catches.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: He's led the lead in yards perception the last two years.
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: Two years. Yeah, he's the definition of a difference maker.
• 37:58
  Speaker 9: I just think it's differ and we get into this
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: semantics argument. I get, but we're so attached to that
• 38:06
  Speaker 9: wide receiver one thing. Yeah, and it's just like and
• 38:09
  Speaker 9: we just unders he's an outside receiver that takes the
• 38:12
  Speaker 9: top off. So like now on his side of the field,
• 38:14
  Speaker 9: that safety has to respect the fact that he can
• 38:16
  Speaker 9: run by both guys really on that side of the field,
• 38:20
  Speaker 9: Like it just it changes the equation of how you're
• 38:22
  Speaker 9: defended more so than it maybe is, Like is he
• 38:26
  Speaker 9: in the Jamar Chase justin Jefferson here? No, but I
• 38:31
  Speaker 9: think that he's a He changes how you are being
• 38:33
  Speaker 9: game planned against because of his speat.
• 38:35
  Speaker 8: It's simple math to me. You have the most accurate
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: downfield front quarterback in the league and the most the
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: more prolific downfield receiver is now available. You know, when
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: Paul was talking about we were saying the match that
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: that is reminded me a little bit about when the
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: Brady when they got Welker for Brady, where it was
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: you know, is Welker number one?
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: No?
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: But his skill set fit Brady so much that you
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: knew that Brady's going to see every defense, He's going
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: to put Welker right into the right position, and he's
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: going to complete one hundred and fifty passes to him,
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: and that's exactly what happened.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: I would agree with the emailer is if you know,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: if you if you just got Pierce and you just
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: decided that okay, you're probably going to be disappointed based
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: on what it's going to cost you and the way
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: you know, there's.
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: The offense would still be lacking something.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would agree with all that that reservation,
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: but the emailer, I'm on board with you.
• 39:20
  Speaker 9: I mean, the ideal scenario would have been pairing Peers
• 39:22
  Speaker 9: with Digs. And obviously Digs the situation just was what
• 39:26
  Speaker 9: it was and they're moving on. But to pair him
• 39:28
  Speaker 9: with somebody like Diggs that's going to be that inside
• 39:31
  Speaker 9: guy that's going to move the chains and wait underneath.
• 39:33
  Speaker 9: It's obviously not at that level, but it's it's Welker
• 39:37
  Speaker 9: and Moss right. It's having a guy underneath and over
• 39:39
  Speaker 9: the middle and a guy over the top. And with
• 39:42
  Speaker 9: Drake May's ability to throw the ball deep, teams are
• 39:45
  Speaker 9: going to have to respect the fact that he has
• 39:47
  Speaker 9: out piers on the outside.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Now, what do you guys think is harder to find?
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: Like, what would you rather do?
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: Would you rather feel like you have a chain mover
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: that Drake has trust in and you have to kind
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: of find the deep threat or would you feel better
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: about we've.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: Got to guy who can take the top off.
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: Hopefully that opens things up and means opportunities for us
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: to find someone underneath to be the chain mover. Like,
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: what is the harder of those two roles to find
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: and which would you rather.
• 40:12
  Speaker 9: I would say the Chane mover because he made MATC
• 40:15
  Speaker 9: Collins and Kishon Booty viable deep threats just because of
• 40:18
  Speaker 9: how good he is. So like, even though that might
• 40:21
  Speaker 9: not be the ceiling of what that role could be
• 40:23
  Speaker 9: in the offense, they still got a thousand yards combined
• 40:26
  Speaker 9: from those two guys because he's so good.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: So like, I think the chain mover thing too, Like
• 40:31
  Speaker 9: in Josh mcdaniels's offense, that's.
• 40:33
  Speaker 10: A really important role.
• 40:35
  Speaker 9: And Josh McDaniels talks a lot about getting like the
• 40:37
  Speaker 9: first first down of a drive and you know, keeping
• 40:40
  Speaker 9: the offense on schedule and moving you know, the offense
• 40:44
  Speaker 9: down the field. These are all things that a Diggs does.
• 40:47
  Speaker 9: And I think even though Drake May's skill set might
• 40:50
  Speaker 9: lend itself more to the deep ball guy, the offense
• 40:52
  Speaker 9: lends itself more to the digs kind of player.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: This might just be sort of anecdotal and not necessarily
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: born out, but I would also so add to that,
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: I think May's ability makes it easier for the guy
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: down the field, whereas May, I think needs more help
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: from the from the receiver. On the other thing, I
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: think he got he benefited more from Diggs's sort of
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: savvy and weut running and all that, because I don't
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: think that's as natural to May. Those quick throws, accurate
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: third fourth, downd chain moving kind of things. That's not
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: the best part of May's game. The best part of
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: May's game, I'm going to make you look good when
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: we throw it up.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Derek in South Carolina raises. He asks, you know, with
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: losing Diggs, is wide receiver now the number one offseason priority.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: I would say that the number one priority should be
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: giving May whatever he needs to succeed, and of course
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: that includes wide receivers. But I also think the line
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: and tight end, like the priority this off season would
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: be to get this offense humming for Drake May that
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: that should be the.
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: But what do you think is going.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: To do that?
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Well then whoever, Like, if if the opportunity is for
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: the best tight end, get that, you know, like there's
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: no I don't think there's any order right now. It's
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: just you need these people. You're not gonna get them all.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: So like, as the opportunity makes itself available, you've got
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: to move.
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah, look at every I mean, that's what I said.
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: About the thirty first pick, barring you know, like maybe
• 42:23
  Speaker 8: a Cassius Howell being there. I looked at it through
• 42:26
  Speaker 8: the prism of Drake, who's available, Who's going to help
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: Drake the most immediately and in the long term, and
• 42:32
  Speaker 8: you know, setting up those those long term weapons. I mean,
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: I think you look at I went down on Tuesday,
• 42:37
  Speaker 8: show all the guys that are going to be free
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: agents next year on the you know, Booty's up, Douglas
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: is up, Hollins is up. They have to find who
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: are going to be Drake May's long term guys for
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: you know, the end of his first contract and into
• 42:49
  Speaker 8: that second, you know, lucrative contract, and I'm sure he's
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: going to sign next offseason, you know. So it's it's
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: a priority for sure, but you got to get it right.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: And I think you can keep taking swings every year.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Trying to find it.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: For me is the priority. And I understand Fred's point,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: like whatever presents itself you should take. I'm not saying
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: take the seventieth best receiver because that's the biggest need
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: over a tight end. Who might be the best tight
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: end available or the best offensive tackle available, whatever not.
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: Whatever is available is available.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: They should have a lot of irons.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Five receiver to me, is a bigger need than the
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: other things. I think you guys all picked edge rusher.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Edge rusher is a huge need. I totally agree with
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: you guys. For me, it's more about what Fred says.
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: I think they got to find a way to give
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: Drake a little bit more helpful.
• 43:37
  Speaker 9: I think that's the number one concern with this move
• 43:39
  Speaker 9: to me, is like, ideally, you don't want to put
• 43:41
  Speaker 9: yourself in a position in the draft where you have
• 43:43
  Speaker 9: to draft a certain position, right, And that's usually when
• 43:46
  Speaker 9: you make mistakes, is when you are drafting for need
• 43:49
  Speaker 9: and it's like we're going in to the draft and
• 43:51
  Speaker 9: we have no receivers and we have no choice but
• 43:53
  Speaker 9: to take a wide receiver here now. And that's when
• 43:55
  Speaker 9: you end up with the seventh best receiver instead of
• 43:58
  Speaker 9: a better player at a different position. And so that's
• 44:01
  Speaker 9: what free agency is about. Like free agency is you
• 44:03
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• 44:07
  Speaker 9: in the league, and we're going to sign these guys
• 44:08
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  Speaker 10: So I'm hoping that next week.
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• 44:20
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• 44:23
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• 44:25
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• 44:27
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• 44:29
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• 44:32
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• 44:34
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  Speaker 4: And you're doing a car wash here, you know, Evan
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: and I we don't get up early enough to talk
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: to you during the season. I think the last time
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: we talked to you was here at the combine.
• 46:43
  Speaker 13: Have you had a chance to process ask questions?
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  Speaker 7: I do.
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  Speaker 1: I do a press conference there twice a week. You're
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: free to ask questions there.
• 46:51
  Speaker 13: We don't get you one on one like this though,
• 46:53
  Speaker 13: But have you had a chance to process this last
• 46:55
  Speaker 13: year yet?
• 46:56
  Speaker 14: I mean probably not. You know, I just keep it moving,
• 47:00
  Speaker 14: figure out what we need to do next. I think
• 47:02
  Speaker 14: that's what we've done since we since we started a little.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Over a year ago.
• 47:06
  Speaker 14: So the idea is just kind of figure out what
• 47:08
  Speaker 14: we need to do for the team and and go
• 47:10
  Speaker 14: about doing it.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: Might help with that, it all get and then something new.
• 47:13
  Speaker 14: Yeah, And because everybody's here, you know, we have you know,
• 47:16
  Speaker 14: most of our staff here, and you know the personnel
• 47:19
  Speaker 14: staff and uh, some of the coaches have come in.
• 47:22
  Speaker 14: We're excited about going to dinner to night before the meeting,
• 47:24
  Speaker 14: so you know, miss Nancy Nancy Meyer sets that up
• 47:28
  Speaker 14: and that'll be a great thing here tonight that we'll
• 47:30
  Speaker 14: be able to do. I have great dinner with everybody
• 47:33
  Speaker 14: that's in and then we'll we'll head over to to
• 47:35
  Speaker 14: the interviews.
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  Speaker 10: Are you're staying almost?
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  Speaker 10: What's the last couple of weeks looked like for you personally?
• 47:50
  Speaker 10: Just obviously coming off the Super Bowl?
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Wow?
• 47:52
  Speaker 14: I mean you try to visit with the players and
• 47:54
  Speaker 14: coaches and try to figure out what the staff needs
• 47:57
  Speaker 14: and the adjustments that you make with the staff, and.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: You know, try to take a little bit of time.
• 48:03
  Speaker 14: You know, went skiing with Carter, went skiing for three
• 48:06
  Speaker 14: days with him, and.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: That was enough. I got more injuries.
• 48:10
  Speaker 14: No, no injuries, but you know, just try to make
• 48:12
  Speaker 14: some time for family, but also make time for for
• 48:16
  Speaker 14: work in this football team.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: No, you got to start over at the beginning every year.
• 48:20
  Speaker 13: But is there some things that you can take from
• 48:22
  Speaker 13: that season you can stand and.
• 48:24
  Speaker 14: I don't know if you it's starting over from the beginning,
• 48:26
  Speaker 14: you know what I mean. I think you have to
• 48:28
  Speaker 14: start over from you know, the things that you feel
• 48:31
  Speaker 14: really really confident about moving forward and that you want
• 48:34
  Speaker 14: to build with and kind of go from there and
• 48:36
  Speaker 14: then you know, add the pieces and look to the
• 48:39
  Speaker 14: draft and look to free agency and you know, who
• 48:43
  Speaker 14: can you develop and what can you get out of
• 48:45
  Speaker 14: you know, somebody else that maybe you didn't think that
• 48:47
  Speaker 14: you had in him, or he didn't think he had
• 48:49
  Speaker 14: in himself, and you know, but those will be things
• 48:52
  Speaker 14: that we'll do here moving forward, just with our current team,
• 48:54
  Speaker 14: and then what it looks like going forward with the
• 48:57
  Speaker 14: pieces that we had.
• 48:58
  Speaker 9: I'll have to just ask you a little bit about
• 48:59
  Speaker 9: this obviously, Zach, you know, being promoted here defensive coordinator.
• 49:04
  Speaker 9: Just what did you see as an assistant that you
• 49:06
  Speaker 9: thought he could call plays, he'd be a good Yeah.
• 49:08
  Speaker 14: I just thought, you know, a very intelligent football coach
• 49:12
  Speaker 14: at an offensive background that when he came to Tennessee
• 49:16
  Speaker 14: provided us with a lot of information when we were
• 49:19
  Speaker 14: in those defensive meeting rooms on Hey, this is what
• 49:22
  Speaker 14: they're trying to do.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: This is what.
• 49:23
  Speaker 14: Bothers or maybe forces them to do something differently.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: And so that's how his.
• 49:28
  Speaker 14: Role started and then he progressed to it to a
• 49:31
  Speaker 14: defensive coach, handled our red zone installation and the presentation
• 49:38
  Speaker 14: and the conversations, and he continued to grow and then
• 49:42
  Speaker 14: when you know he got here, you know, it just
• 49:45
  Speaker 14: was obvious from an early time when when you know
• 49:48
  Speaker 14: Big T was, you know, working through some stuff that
• 49:50
  Speaker 14: Zach was capable of leading and also improved.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: You know, each and every.
• 49:56
  Speaker 13: Week you've been a defensive coordinator, what are the biggest
• 49:59
  Speaker 13: challenge of having I mean, can you imagine yourself jumping
• 50:01
  Speaker 13: into that job kind of unexpectedly?
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Well, I think as a position.
• 50:04
  Speaker 14: Coach you're always thinking about that, and I think that
• 50:07
  Speaker 14: when you try to think about that, like hey, what
• 50:09
  Speaker 14: what I call here?
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: What adjustment or what do we have to be careful
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: of here?
• 50:14
  Speaker 14: You're always just trying to train and sharpen and think
• 50:17
  Speaker 14: about that. Now, whether that matches up or marries up
• 50:19
  Speaker 14: with the with the play caller that that may not
• 50:23
  Speaker 14: always happen, but you're always in your head thinking about
• 50:26
  Speaker 14: that's the way that you have to look at it
• 50:28
  Speaker 14: just as the same way as you're sitting there and
• 50:30
  Speaker 14: you're thinking about, Hey, this is what the head coach
• 50:33
  Speaker 14: wants to do.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Is this what I would do? And I'm gonna.
• 50:35
  Speaker 14: Support this as a as a position coach or a coordinator,
• 50:38
  Speaker 14: I'm gonna I'm gonna support it.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: But is this what I would do?
• 50:41
  Speaker 14: Most of the time it is. Sometimes it's it looks
• 50:43
  Speaker 14: a little different. So when you get your opportunity, you
• 50:45
  Speaker 14: know you can do those things.
• 50:47
  Speaker 9: When it comes to Terrell, you you mentioned at the
• 50:49
  Speaker 9: podium to get minutes goo that you have a vision
• 50:51
  Speaker 9: for his role. Can you just share any insight into
• 50:53
  Speaker 9: what that vision might be.
• 50:54
  Speaker 14: Yeah, it's again, it's it's going to be a strong
• 50:57
  Speaker 14: role on the defense, like he is going.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: To act as a as.
• 51:00
  Speaker 14: A coordinator and presenting information and ideas and you know,
• 51:04
  Speaker 14: bringing us the front and making sure that we're we're
• 51:07
  Speaker 14: really solid across the front from our edges uh to
• 51:10
  Speaker 14: the interior. We've got some guys inside that I think
• 51:13
  Speaker 14: can continue to develop and grow, whether that's Milk or
• 51:18
  Speaker 14: Christian or anybody else. I think that those guys can
• 51:21
  Speaker 14: continue to get better. And Terrell's going to have a
• 51:24
  Speaker 14: large hand in that, but he's also going to be
• 51:26
  Speaker 14: able to help me, uh and extend, you know, being
• 51:30
  Speaker 14: an extension of me throughout our program.
• 51:32
  Speaker 13: I know you haven't jumped in too much on the
• 51:34
  Speaker 13: draft yet, but do you enjoy that process? Do you
• 51:36
  Speaker 13: gravitate towards maybe position you played or.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: You like Do you like it? I mean, do you
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: have fun with trying to find these kids?
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Of course? And it's important.
• 51:43
  Speaker 14: I mean, the draft is you know, has to be
• 51:47
  Speaker 14: the cornerstone of of your you know, your team, and
• 51:52
  Speaker 14: it's it's the youth and you put a lot of.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Time into these guys.
• 51:56
  Speaker 14: We spend a lot of time with the draft guys
• 51:59
  Speaker 14: and then the free agency if you don't know something
• 52:00
  Speaker 14: about them, you know, sometimes you don't know what what
• 52:03
  Speaker 14: you're getting. But we have a lot of knowledge of
• 52:06
  Speaker 14: these guys, and you're excited when you're able to get them,
• 52:09
  Speaker 14: and you know, whether you trade up for them, they
• 52:11
  Speaker 14: they're there when you pick, or you know you trade
• 52:14
  Speaker 14: back in the guy's there.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: So you know, we have to we have to continue
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: to draft well.
• 52:19
  Speaker 14: And we have to continue to develop because that's the
• 52:21
  Speaker 14: only way that you can withstain or sustain the success
• 52:25
  Speaker 14: that we envision.
• 52:27
  Speaker 9: One of the players I want to ask you about
• 52:29
  Speaker 9: on your own team is Christian Gonzalez. Sure has up
• 52:31
  Speaker 9: for this extension maybe this offseason. What do you just
• 52:36
  Speaker 9: see in him? And do you want to make an
• 52:38
  Speaker 9: extension happen?
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Well, we want to go.
• 52:40
  Speaker 14: Yeah, we we obviously want to move forward with all
• 52:42
  Speaker 14: our best players.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I think that that's something that I would want.
• 52:46
  Speaker 14: And I know that you know, Elliott Once and Ryan
• 52:49
  Speaker 14: once and Stretched once and Robert and Jonathan and our
• 52:52
  Speaker 14: fans want they want our best players to be on
• 52:54
  Speaker 14: our team as long as they're.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: You know, really good players.
• 52:57
  Speaker 14: Uh again, I thought he got better. I thought he
• 53:01
  Speaker 14: played his best football down the stretch and I thought.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: That that was good to see.
• 53:06
  Speaker 14: I talked about that, and yeah, that was something that
• 53:09
  Speaker 14: Gonzo and I, you know, would would talk about and share.
• 53:12
  Speaker 14: And you know, he is, he's a talented player. And
• 53:17
  Speaker 14: if I pushed him and asked him if he wants
• 53:20
  Speaker 14: to strive to be a captain, and he said that
• 53:23
  Speaker 14: he does, and I'm gonna help him try to get there.
• 53:24
  Speaker 14: And I want him to to come back with that
• 53:27
  Speaker 14: mindset of not only being an elite player, but also
• 53:30
  Speaker 14: being an elite leader and an elite teammate, which he
• 53:33
  Speaker 14: is an elite teammate, but you know, being able to
• 53:36
  Speaker 14: push these guys and communicate and use his intelligence and
• 53:40
  Speaker 14: what he.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Sees on the field, be able to help other guys.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Just one more for me, Mike.
• 53:45
  Speaker 13: I thought it was really interesting at the podium, he said,
• 53:47
  Speaker 13: you're challenging your coaches, you know, bring you something new
• 53:49
  Speaker 13: this offseason. Is there anything else that you feel like
• 53:52
  Speaker 13: you're kind of adjusting year two that you need to
• 53:54
  Speaker 13: make to maybe course correct or just change course.
• 53:57
  Speaker 14: I mean, we we have to left, We have to
• 53:59
  Speaker 14: get stronger. You know, when you have a young football team,
• 54:01
  Speaker 14: like you have to understand that this is a I mean,
• 54:04
  Speaker 14: this is a grown man sport like this is there's
• 54:06
  Speaker 14: a bunch of big.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Men out there playing this game.
• 54:10
  Speaker 14: And so I want to make sure that our players
• 54:12
  Speaker 14: understand how important.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: You know, their physical development is.
• 54:18
  Speaker 14: They they may be skilled, but we you know, we
• 54:20
  Speaker 14: have some guys that you know, our team, like everybody's
• 54:23
  Speaker 14: at a different level, Like where where one player is
• 54:26
  Speaker 14: at twelve years into his career and other players in
• 54:28
  Speaker 14: his second year. Like here's what I always say, Like
• 54:32
  Speaker 14: nobody talks about Tom Brady.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: In two thousand and one. In two thousand and.
• 54:36
  Speaker 14: How he changed his body and he maximized his God
• 54:39
  Speaker 14: given genetic ability. Everybody talks about TB twelve and the pliability,
• 54:44
  Speaker 14: they don't talk about how hard he worked in the
• 54:46
  Speaker 14: weight room and we lifted with the tight end and
• 54:48
  Speaker 14: the linebackers, and he squatted and he hanged, cleaned, and
• 54:51
  Speaker 14: he did all those things to make his body the
• 54:56
  Speaker 14: best that it could be for him to play quarterback
• 54:58
  Speaker 14: and to compete.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Uh and once his opportunity came.
• 55:02
  Speaker 14: So I think that's always a good reminder just looking
• 55:06
  Speaker 14: at what you know, how hard this player worked and
• 55:09
  Speaker 14: what people thought it was.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: But you know, some of us that were.
• 55:13
  Speaker 14: There, you know, we got to see that, and you know,
• 55:16
  Speaker 14: I think that's just a good reminder that as a
• 55:18
  Speaker 14: young player you can still make a lot of gains
• 55:21
  Speaker 14: once you started your career.
• 55:23
  Speaker 9: Kind of along those same lines, when you did an
• 55:25
  Speaker 9: audit of the season in the Super Bowl, you guys
• 55:29
  Speaker 9: were a great offense during the regular season, Dans MVP
• 55:32
  Speaker 9: runner up. In the playoffs, it seemed to take maybe
• 55:35
  Speaker 9: a little bit of a step back. Is that, you know,
• 55:38
  Speaker 9: young guys in big spots, great defenses.
• 55:40
  Speaker 14: Well, I mean you obviously know what the type of
• 55:43
  Speaker 14: defenses that we played.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like we were playing some rum dums. You know,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: these guys were good and we didn't consistently do enough.
• 55:50
  Speaker 14: I thought there were times where we did and we
• 55:54
  Speaker 14: weren't able to sustain.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: And we'll have to go back and understand it.
• 55:59
  Speaker 14: To be to put yourself in those positions and ultimately
• 56:02
  Speaker 14: win a championship, you're gonna have to beat good defenses,
• 56:06
  Speaker 14: whether that's at home or on the road or whatever.
• 56:07
  Speaker 14: That is so uh, the consistency of it, the ability
• 56:12
  Speaker 14: to create some X plays.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to drive the ball ten or.
• 56:15
  Speaker 14: Twelve plays, and you know, just you have to be
• 56:19
  Speaker 14: have to be better, have to you know, improve the
• 56:22
  Speaker 14: details and improve the execution.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: And we're all involved in it, you know, from the
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: coaching to the playing. Is it's on us all and
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: that's that will be our challenge going forward.
• 56:32
  Speaker 15: Is.
• 56:33
  Speaker 14: Yeah, we had success and there was some really good performances,
• 56:37
  Speaker 14: but you know, the margin for air when you get
• 56:41
  Speaker 14: into January, uh really shrinks.
• 56:46
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• 56:49
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• 56:55
  Speaker 6: And now, great moments in.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: History?
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  Speaker 6: How would you pronounce my name in Italian?
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: The way you last name?
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  Speaker 6: Paria, perula, Perillo.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: That's how you should pronounce it in Italian. It's not
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: how I pronounce it. But yet he lets me get
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: away with that.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: I guess, well, you're saying you don't pronounce the l's if.
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: It was Italian.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, prea no no.
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: In Spanish, you don't pronounce the l that is Italian.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: You do.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: They have both romance languages, and yes, but you pronounce
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: the two l's in Spanish.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: You don't in Spanish.
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: It's why.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Well, I grew up with a guy named Rocky Delgadillo, Okay,
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: and that's how he pronounced his name.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Did he say muzzarel too?
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: You believe me?
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: This guy could not have been anymore off the boat.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: So two Italians fighting over the language.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: I'm not fighting over the language. I'm just asking him
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: both saying you're wrong. I'm asking him about his hipocrisy, Well, providence,
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: why one you're not the other?
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, you don't even know how to pronounce your
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: own name. It's stillavan.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: I love what he does does it's Stillavano.
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: No, that's another great moment.
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• 58:17
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• 58:26
  Speaker 8: Visitor expected to continue. Former top ten pick Willis, who's
• 58:29
  Speaker 8: just twenty six, fully expects to be with an NFL
• 58:31
  Speaker 8: team this season.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: So why did he Why did he so? Jordan Schultz
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: isn't from around here?
• 58:36
  Speaker 10: Is he thanks the start?
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: I want?
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: Why did he make a point to say including the Patriots.
• 58:41
  Speaker 9: Because Jedrick Wills's agent said, please give me a favor
• 58:44
  Speaker 9: and put out that Jedrick Wills wants to play next year?
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: But why Patriots? I'm not saying why wouldn't we be interested?
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: But why does Jordan Schultz of all the teams use
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: us as one of the including Well.
• 58:58
  Speaker 10: I guess maybe he was here. I don't know.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: You just said he's going on a tour.
• 59:03
  Speaker 10: Well, I think he said that he was with the
• 59:05
  Speaker 10: Patriots and now is going someplace.
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: I mean perhaps, I'm not sure if this math works out.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: So like Jordan Schull seems to be doing some a
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: lot of Patriots reporting lately.
• 59:15
  Speaker 10: Well, he's on the agent side for sure.
• 59:17
  Speaker 8: Drafted by the Browns in twenty twenty. Was Elliot Wolf
• 59:19
  Speaker 8: there with the Browns in twenty twenty. Perhaps there's some
• 59:21
  Speaker 8: kind of connection.
• 59:22
  Speaker 16: Oh never mind, this is his first year here. I think,
• 59:25
  Speaker 16: all right, I'm just curious, curious. All right, let's get
• 59:28
  Speaker 16: to the phones people have been patiently holding on. We'll
• 59:31
  Speaker 16: start with Sean and Vancouver. What's up, Sean Sred?
• 59:34
  Speaker 17: I got a couple of things, Evan, you came around
• 59:38
  Speaker 17: to Chris Browsel the third. I'm wondering what turned it
• 59:44
  Speaker 17: for you or what want them over for you? And
• 59:46
  Speaker 17: would you prefer him over at Denzel Boston? And then
• 59:50
  Speaker 17: the big thing though, that I want to talk about
• 59:52
  Speaker 17: is Fred. You're talking about the Patriots needs and and
• 59:57
  Speaker 17: you know this has been a conversation. I think it's
• 59:59
  Speaker 17: reallliant important that like Kevin said that we addressed this
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 17: in free agency. So I have five areas of need
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 17: that I'd love to see addressed in free agency.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: About three, let's short it top three okay.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 17: Three, Okay, we'll just do do the offense then for
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 17: for the x fide receiver, like you're saying, Alex Pierce
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 17: makes the most sense tight end who can block like
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 17: Kate Auten and left guard David David Edwards.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, sounds good. Thanks, Sean, appreciate it.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: I like all the individuals that he picked. I just
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: think it's very little chance of big, big money at all.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: Three.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Christians in la uh Oh? What's up?
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 10: What are you upset about?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 18: No, there's nothing dramatic. I just I'm a little upset
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 18: that we keep doing this thing that that we just
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 18: can't seem to get right in New England. We cannot
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 18: get a number one receiver a bit right, like we
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 18: get the wrong guy, someone that doesn't fit the systems. Listen,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 18: Stefon Diggs played an amazing season this year, coming off
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 18: in ACL He's only going to get better next year.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 18: And he's the kind of guy that has like a
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 18: chip on his shoulder and wants to prove himself. He's
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 18: also the kind of guy that we would restructure his
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 18: contract and he literally wants to be here. But here's
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 18: what I'm proposing. Maybe it's crazy. Maybe we keep Stefon
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 18: Diggs and then we get Alec Pierce. Also we get
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 18: rid of That's what I don't like these guys Mac Collins,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 18: Kayshaun Booty and maybe even Pop Douglas. And we have
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 18: two guys behind those. We have Kyle Williams and Efen
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 18: Chism behind Diggs and Pierce to sort of develop, and
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 18: we can use that first round pick or free agency
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 18: to get a tight end or to address the offensive line.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 18: I don't see why we keep doing this thing where
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 18: we're kind of outthinking ourselves.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 9: Right, Okay, I get what he's saying about the wide receivers.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 9: I mean they keep on trying to swing at wide receiver.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 9: And I just think that one of the things that
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 9: Paul you brought it up first, like the whole Digs thing,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 9: is there's a lot to unpack there. There's a lot
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 9: of layers that are just beyond They didn't want to
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 9: pay him the contract that he was owed in twenty
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 9: twenty six, and I think a lot of that is
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 9: maybe more of a factor than what's being made out
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 9: to be. I think because the money people really want
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 9: to hammer them on the money piece of it. And
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 9: I think there's a lot going on with Stefon Diggs that.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, especially towards.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 10: The end of the sea.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: I don't have any inside information on this. This is
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: just my view from you know, ten thousand feet. I
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: think it has as much to do with Diggs's whole
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: package then it has to do with the contract, because
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: I don't think the contract was quite frankly, I think
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: he was average annual value. I think he was twenty
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: third among wide receivers. The twenty point six million was
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: going to slay and that's going to go down because
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: like Alec Pierce for one, that doesn't count. I don't
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: think George Pickens with his franchise tag when he signs
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: that that see, he's going to go further down. I
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: don't think his contract was out of the realm of
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: you know, reasonable numbers at twenty million, right. I think
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: this has more to do with them sort of wondering.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: You're too early instead of two late.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: What happened?
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: What happens if he becomes a real problem. And then
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: you know what kind of stuck with him because we
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: paid him the twenty million.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 8: So your threat of the needle last year, I mean
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 8: you got ormance on and off the field with him,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 8: you dodged. I mean, let's face it, a few bullets
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 8: with him off the field that dated back to the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 8: very start of it all.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: And I never thought that Stefan Diggs was going to.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Be that one.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 8: It always felt like he was going to be a placeholder,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 8: somebody to get.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: Drake up the speed.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 8: But you know, I think we've been searching for the
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 8: quarterbacks so much that now you finally have a guy
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 8: in place that you believe in, and now I feel
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 8: like it's feasible to really attempt to find these guys
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 8: that Christian's talking about. Not to say that it wasn't before,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 8: but when you have mac Jones and you know, you
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 8: don't know, and you're still trying to build a protection,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 8: and now they're getting to the point where ye off
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 8: line they got And it's like.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: If I bought a Maserati and didn't have a garage,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: if my plan isn't to build that garage, then don't
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: buy the Masarati.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: But also I wouldn't discount. You know, there's been a
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: lot made of the last couple of years. It's you know,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: Calvin Ridley, it's Brandon Ayuk, it's these guys that they've
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: been chasing and they can't get them, you know, even
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins that year.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: I don't think that's that's a thing anymore.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: I think that they'll be able to pursue guys in
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: you know, Chris Godwin last year, just last year. I
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: think now they won't have to just take the only
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: one digs that says that'll say yes. I think they're
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: going to be very attractive with this young quarterback and
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: a team that's coming off a Super Bowl.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: Appearing, and don't forget the new training facility is right.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't know if that's I think it's.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 9: It's funny how like Diggs is going to end up
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 9: being a big reason why the plane got off the ground,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 9: but he's just not going.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 10: To be the one that lands it, you know what
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 10: I mean.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: Like, and it's kind of, uh, you know, stinks for
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: him kind of in a way that that's he was
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: kind of that guinea pig, but he sort of was.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: And I just think the one thing that you can't do,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: is you can't just keep going year to year at
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: that position, Yes, because that's not really fair to Drake May, right,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: like every fall into the Kansas City tree, right, and
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: you just say, well, Patrick will figure it out, Josh Allen,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: you could figure it out if you get.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: A number one guy.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 9: Now, if you get Alex Pierce, who's twenty six years old,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 9: then you have some runway with him and Drake May together.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 9: You don't want to get into a situation where, well,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 9: we got A Diggs for a year, and now we're
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 9: going to hire mercenary A J. Brown for a year,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 9: and now we're gonna.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 6: About how about Brian Thomas.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 10: He's available. I don't know why is he available?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: Because supposedly he doesn't fit well with Trevor Lawrence and
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: what Liam Collen wants to do on offense, which is
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: a red flag. I fully recognize that's a red flag.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: Like he's a young player, why are they looking to
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: move on from it? But that's a guy that has
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: obviously the ability and young in the prime of his career.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 6: You get him still on his rookie contract.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 8: I mean, I love what Evan's saying, just finding those
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 8: guys that Drake can build a long term relationship with.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 8: You can't keep chasing the digs Is and the aj
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 8: Browns and every year you're on, you know, a one
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 8: year kind of deal, trying to plug that hole. You've
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 8: got to find a way to get some young players.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 8: I mean that to me, I mean Ale Pierce being
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 8: young is one of the big appeals to him too.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 8: And by the way, DJ Moore went for a second.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 8: DJ Moore in a fifth.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: For a second.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 10: It was during the break.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: Oh sorry, I was for getting my stamach.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, we weren't on the air when we said that.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: I was going to call you Fred, But I'm not
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: going to call your Fred now. Now.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to say we were in a break.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 9: I've seen some people break with that with the DJ
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 9: Moore thing, being like that's a hefty price, like bad
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 9: news for the Patriots of just talking about that, I don't.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 9: I mean, it's this second for fifth and djil like
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 9: it's a pick swap, of.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: Like it was a big pick swap. It's a big
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: pit swap. But I don't think that that's like a
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: sizable trade.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: It's not outrageous.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: No, uh, Sabah is in North Carolina.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 19: What's up, Hey there, gentlemen. It's so pleasure to just
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 19: listen to you guys in my living room. It's just
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 19: very enjoyable. So I just want to thank you. I
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 19: like listening to you guys.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 14: Uh.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 19: First of all about the wide receiver thing. Do not
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 19: get eighth Brown. I'm not a big diva person, and
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 19: I agree with you on Stefan Dick to think he's
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 19: the guy you date, not Mary. So, like you said,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 19: you throw the needle with him and you want to
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 19: have great memories when it's over. You don't want it
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 19: to get ugly, which you could. And I love Stephan
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 19: Diggs and your team, I really did, but I would
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 19: not get a J. Brown. He demeans his quarterbacks, just
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 19: ask the Philadelphia Hurts. He read books on the sidelines.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 19: He's dairy like I want the ball instead of letting
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 19: the offense come to him. So I think the best
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 19: way for the Patriots to win Super Bowls is to
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 19: do like Tom Brady. He never had that one guy,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 19: and when he did have moss y'all didn't win the
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 19: Super Bowl. So I say go with by committee. And
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 19: I like that fierce guy. Now I have one thing
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 19: for you guys to consider. I know it's out of
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 19: the box, and you can call me crazy, but I
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 19: don't like your left side of the line at all. I
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 19: would not double down with them. I would cut braids.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 19: I would trade your left guard and that left tackle
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 19: got from L s U for Max Crosby. Straight up?
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 19: Would they do that?
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: The d think the Raiders would no.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 19: Throwing a fourth round pick?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 6: No, No, I think throwing two ones. And maybe.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 19: It's better with your backups in there.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: You don't like the left side of the Patriots line, right,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: you don't like the left tackle and the left guy.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 19: We were on a good call, right, I don't like them.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: You don't.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: You don't like them, But the Raiders are going to
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: like them and give up their best player for them.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 19: Well, I thought the Raiders have a horrible off of
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 19: the line, and I.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 6: Think, but but you don't think those players are.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: Good, So they would still have a horrible offensive line.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: I guess the Are they going to be any better
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: at the Raiders?
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 20: No?
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 19: Probably not. That's why I would get rid of get
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 19: rid of.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Them, right, So, but the Raiders might know that, So
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: I mean it's I mean obviously.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: Unreally, you're not going to trade two, you know, second
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: year offensive lineman who started for you for the whole season.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: You're going to give them a chance continue to do nobody.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: I like the creative thinking. I like the creative thinking, generous.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 19: In a double down, they're gonna cut, you gotta cut
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 19: your losses.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it's a loss yet. I don't
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: think the Patriots think it's a loss yet. I think that,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: you know, I think you might move Wilson at center,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: and I think they think that Campbell can get stronger
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: and and have a year two jump. So I don't
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: think they think it's a loss yet.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 19: All right, Well, I like the Pierce thing, but get
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 19: the line fixed absolutely, and I don't want any divas
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 19: in the house. Avoid again, Well.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: Then you don't like.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: You don't want any receivers except for justin Jefferson.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 10: All right, thanks on the sideline.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: Eric is in Louisiana. What's up? Eric? As?
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 10: He should be.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 21: Right, Jefferson, Hey, how y'all doing?
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 15: I just wanted to ask this one question of obviously,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 15: we drafted Will Campbell, Treyvon Henderson, and Kyle Williams last
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 15: year and it was a struggle for them at times,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 15: but they obviously picked it up and they showed promise.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 15: What is the expectation for the draft picks are coming
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 15: into this year to say that, Okay, we have something here.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 15: We don't have to worry about this spot anymore. So,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 15: like as far as like edge, wide receiver and like
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 15: the line back, like is it stats is something or
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 15: be something that's gonna be like, Oh, we don't have
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 15: to worry about this certain position in the future.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 10: Okay, I'm not sure I understand the question.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure I follow Eric. Yeah, quarterback, but I
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: mean otherwise, I.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 8: Think you can if it's not an immediate need, it's
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 8: a long term need. I'd say cornerback is not an
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 8: immediate you know, maybe day one need.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: But Carlton Davis, you know you're gonna need some depth there.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: That's showing you resign Gonzales, which I'm expecting I would.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 6: I would agree with Mike on that.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: You know, running back is probably not a pressing need
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: right now, but it's it's going to be and they
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: probably need some depth there too. Tight end is a need,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: Wide receivers in need, edges a need. I mean, is
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: Barbo going to stay. Then maybe defensive tackle isn't necessarily
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: a need with Williams and Barmore back again, you know
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: this quarterback, it's kind of is that what he was asking?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: What positions do you look at and say, like, that's
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: not you know, we're set there.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: I think that's the NFL too, though.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: It's just it's it's everybody's you.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: Know, it's not for long league. That's what it is.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 6: And the reason why you say quarterback is because you
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 6: only need one of them.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: You have it.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 10: Long snapper.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, said, assuming you're signing, assuming good gonsip I
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: feel good or not. I'd always like another good cornerback,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: but that's not a priority.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 8: Yeah, we were talking a little bit about that with
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 8: Bradley at the at the linebacker position.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: I think that's a good position to talk about because you.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 8: Know, Gibbons isn't an r f A, so that's and
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 8: he wasn't drafted, so you could easily give him. I mean,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 8: I think you'd make less than me last year, so
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 8: they're probably not going to do that. They probably look
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 8: more to give him a two or three year deal.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: But that's one spot where I don't like.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 8: I don't think that you know, I love Spoline, but
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 8: I don't know about the guys next to him. How
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 8: if either one of those are you know, real blue
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 8: chip kind of guys. So I could see them trying
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 8: to upgrade it. But at the same time, if you
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 8: have to go in the next season with that same
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 8: three guys with other priorities l s where it might
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 8: be one of those positions where you just kind of
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 8: have to bite the bullet.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: I think there's always positions like that where you.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 8: Don't go in feeling like, oh, we've got an all
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 8: star group, but it's going to be good enough for
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 8: this year.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 9: I think that there's a lot of positions like that
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 9: in the draft, where like again, if you go into
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 9: the draft without a bunch of needs that you have
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 9: to fill immediately. Linebackers, it's a great linebacker class, a
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 9: great off ball linebacker class, one of which is kind
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 9: of a dying position. So it's been a couple of
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 9: years since they've had one of those, So you would
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 9: like to draft one of those guys. But if you
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 9: need a left guard, and you need another wide receiver,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 9: and you need an edge rusher, like now, all of
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 9: a sudden, like we're throwing darts at on Day three
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 9: at linebacker. So like, if you can get some of
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 9: these things done in free agency, then I think you
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 9: start drafting for the future. Like the other position I
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 9: keep hearing so much about is right tackle and how
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 9: they need to draft the right tackle of the future. Well,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 9: they're not in a luxury position right now to be
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 9: drafting a right tackle of the future at thirty one.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 9: Like I see a lot of mocks with Blake Miller.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 9: I think he's a good player too, But like, are
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 9: you in a spot right now where you can draft
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 9: a player that's not going to play in twenty twenty six?
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 9: Like this isn't Nate Solder, Like we're not in that
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 9: era of Patriots football where their roster is just stacked
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 9: and they have the luxury to make those types of picks.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 9: So hopefully in free agency they do a lot and
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 9: they can figure that.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: Proctor going thirty one in Charles Davis's mock draft.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 9: Yeah, like Cayden Broctor, So you're gonna draft him to
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 9: play right tackle two years from now and and do
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 9: what in the meantime and like that, and you look
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 9: at you know, Ed Dresher and they got you know,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 9: they got bodies right like it just it doesn't seem
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 9: like they're there yet to make that kind of pick.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: Travis in West Virginia wants to know, you get on
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: your own nerves talking about the same four wide receivers
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: for two hours every show for the past month.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, yeah, but there's a lot of truth through that. Yeah. Sure,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 6: there's a repetitive nature too.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 8: Well, wait, all the draft happened, I know, but it's
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 8: cycles and all of a sudden somebody will sign somewhere
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 8: and then you'll never talk about them.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: I will say this, this year has been light years
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: better than the last two in that regard, because we were.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 10: Talking about like since November.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: We were talking about Will Campbell's arms from November on
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: last year, and the year before that, we were talking
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: about Jayden Daniels and Drake May and JJ McCarthy had
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: nauseum from November on.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: How long have we.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 6: Take this over that?
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: How long have we been coveting AJ Brown?
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: And is there any other fan base.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 8: That covers a wide receiver more than Patriots fans talk
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 8: about a J.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: Brown?
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: Larry Fitzgerald, that's a good one, counter right right. Someone
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: put out that that that meme today with a little
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: little year.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 6: It was Kyler Murray Minnesota.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: The thing that's funny now, it's it's it's what we do.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: I believe me. I I would love to see what
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: this show looks like.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 8: Where the Patriots have a number one wide receiver like
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 8: no joke, like that, we have Jamar.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: Chase on the team.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 8: And because I would say a great majority of call
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 8: somehow relate to finding a number one, why we can't
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 8: find the number one.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: Was a number seven?
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 6: I tried to branch out a little bit. I brought
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 6: up Brian Thomas and Romeo Dobbs.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: That's good, you're bringing new names to thank you.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: For spicing it. Brian Thomas is a good pull Justin Wrightson.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: Let's say hypothetically we signed Pierce to a contract where
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: he's on a three year deal making twenty eight million
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: a year, how much money would we have left over
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: to try to get back guys like Tongo or Hawkins,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: Alec Pierce or training for aj Brown. Feels like the
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: only big move the Patriots will be able to make
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: after that. I don't know how many guys they'd be
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: able to sign a free agency.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 9: Well, they have fifty seven million dollars in cap space
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 9: after cutting digs and so if you're signing Al Pierce
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 9: over a multiple year contract, if we're just going by
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 9: the cap. Now, if you want to talk about the
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 9: whole Felger and maz Cash thing, then that's a totally
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 9: different argument. But if you're just talking about the cap,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 9: they are more than fine. Especially if we're talking about
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 9: the Tongas and the Jalen Hawkins.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, are we considering those like big? Like, No,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: You're gonna have no money to sign those guys, right,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: Like we're talking about Gonzales, Right, you need money, Just
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: sign Gonzales.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: We didn't talk about Alex austen uportally not coming.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: It's not gonna come back.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 10: I mean, he didn't play last I.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 6: Didn't know about that.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 8: But it's funny though, I mean, I mean, tong has
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 8: been on what three four teams? He signed a one
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 8: year deal last year worth two point seven million, And
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 8: I've had this conversation a couple times, like how are
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 8: we going to resign Tongue? And I'm like, he was
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 8: a good player, but I don't think that the two
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 8: down nose tackles, that's not a hard spot to find
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 8: to have them back.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: But even if we're double that, right, which he probably won't,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: but even if he doubled that, like what are you
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: talking about being precluded to make a move like that?
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I agree that if they signed at Pearce,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 9: that's their big fish of the off season. They're not
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 9: going to then go also signed Trey Hendrickson or something
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 9: like that.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 6: Most likely those are big, big, big ticket like that.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: Like Paul said, you go in the cushions of your couch,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: you can find the money.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I mean, come on, but I I it
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 9: is a very very good nose tackle draft.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 10: It's just that nose tackles are back.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 9: There's like five of them in the top fifty, and
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 9: like it's like it's like nineteen eighty five. I'm like,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 9: where did all Like all these guys are just gap
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 9: eating space eating.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: Bleak calb Banks.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 9: Yeah, like all the kid from Ohio State McDonald like
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 9: all they're all like three hundred and thirty pounds nose tackles.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 10: Not Milton Williams.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: Dominique Orange is another one.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, big Citrus that's his nicknag.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Citrus.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 9: F I S I was stated I was big it's
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 9: not the guy was big Citrus.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: Aaron in Connecticut writes in Huge Fan First Email when
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: fans are critical of potential contracts for free agents. Paul
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: and Evan slash Alex on Catch twenty two of asked,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: who cares how much they pay the player is successful?
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: I agree, no one cares if the player hits. I
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: think the concern is the opportunity cost. If we overpay
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: for multiple free agents, does it reduce the number of
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: shots we can take in our subsequent chances to find
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: a perfect fit. Just a thought.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: No, if it doesn't work, it hurts your team, But
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: the next year comes around and you figure out how
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: to deal with.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: The guy, you know, like it's always gonna be another
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: Johnny Smith.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 6: That was the exact name I was thinking of.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: You overpaid, didn't work, you move on like it didn't hurt,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: That didn't prevent them from doing anything. It just I
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: I think this is a continuation of that. And I
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: kind of set my piece on it Tuesday, and I
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: got some criticism for it.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: Like, I just don't understand why you'll criticize you just
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 6: you know, on the t.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 9: I just don't understand, like people that because all this
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 9: out peer stuff is going crazy on on Patriots Twitter.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 9: So like people are like, I'm not paying him a
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 9: penny more than twenty eight million a year, Like what
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 9: you can't?
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, so if it's a differences, perfectly fine.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 9: But if the difference between getting the player is paying
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 9: him thirty instead of twenty eight, you're just you're done
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 9: at twenty eight like that two million dollars they really are, you.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: Know, not every player should be perceived to be the same.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: Like I might look at this guy differently than Mike
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: looks at him, and that's fine. Like I would just
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: say that I understand. If you don't want to pay
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: Alec Pearce twenty eight million, then you don't want Alec Pierce,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: and that's okay. You don't have to want every guy
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: that other people want. I think you'd be a good fit.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: Do I think that would be an overpay for Alec Pierce?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: Probably?
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: In free agency, you overpay, And I always fall back
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: on my tried and true You know who else was
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: an overpay last year at this time, Milton Williams. They
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: overpaid for a guy who had not done that in
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: his career. And I don't think any Patriot fan would
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: sit back and say, I wish we didn't do that.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: The only time the guy's a good player. Good players
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: cost money.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 8: The only time I ever think about this money stuff
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 8: is when it gets to who is getting paid way
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 8: more than they have performed and who was a cut candidate?
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 8: Like who can they what contracts can they get rid of?
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 8: It's not going to be a ton of a dead cap.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: And if they.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: Couldn't do that, Mike, I'd be more on board. If
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: this was the NHL, I'd be much more cash conscious
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: because you can't just get out from under bad contracts.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: You signed Matt Bileski to this free agent deal and
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: it handcuffs you for years because you can't just cut
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: him like you can cut him, but he's still counting
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: the same on the gap.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know if this was accurate, but they were
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: saying on Goods yesterday that the total that we were
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: told the contract was was like in the sixty millions,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: and he only got like twenty million of it, you know.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: So it's like the only thing that you can come
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: back at is like budget, but right budget. So like
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: when we were talking about when we were talking about
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: earlier like if they sign out of Pears and brought
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: Digs back for less money, Well, like, what's their budget
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: for the wide receiver room that year? Because like, I
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: don't think that they can afford both those guys. It
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: based off of the budget. I don't know that. I'm
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: just saying, I'm assuming.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 9: I'm guessing that they wouldn't do that, But like that's cash,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 9: Like that's real cash spending. Yeah, in terms of like
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 9: how much do we have as a budget for the
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 9: team in twenty twenty six?
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: Ben and Hershey, Pennsylvania. What And you know, we like
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: to answer all kinds of questions here, you know, like
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: so people that aren't really into you know, the x's
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: and o's, like Evan have a question, we want to
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: field it. Okay, what actually makes someone a wide receiver?
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: One?
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: Is it where they line up, how many targets they get,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: the coverage they draw up, being a top ten, top twelve,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: top sixteen wide receiver in the NFL or just being
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: the most talented receiver on the team. What's the real definition?
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: The most obvious Patriots wide receiver one was Randy Moss,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: But what about Edelman, Gronk Branch. Where do you draw
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: the line. If Diggs was drawing heavy coverage down the
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: stretch last season and had a thousand receiving yards, was
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: he not worthy of the w R one label? Why not?
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: What was missing? So it's a that's an excellent question.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: It's an excellent question. I would say he had it
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: right in a his first part. It would be my definition.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 6: You guys might all have.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: Like every team has I think a w R one,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: but it's relative to your team.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 9: So every team that has a number one starter, but
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 9: not every team has an ACE, right right?
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Red Sox have an ace the other team Derek.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: One WR one or is he a player who?
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 14: Ye?
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: And I would say that is the weapon. Diggs was
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: their best receiver last year. I don't think he would
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: have been based on his season. Would have been WR
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: one for a lot of other teams. Now there were
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying no other teams. There would have been
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: plenty of teams that he would have been that.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: So now I think WR one came about through fantasy football.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 6: Right, there's no doubt.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: And fantasy football is all about stats. So if you're
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: looking at it from the true origin of it, it
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: would be who has that? That's why I liked his explanation.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: Is is it a guy who is the number one
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: guy that he like generates coverage, he dictates the other
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: team's matchups, And that, to me is a true I
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: hate the WR one nonsense that that's a true number
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: one receiver. Is a guy who the other team goes
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: in and says, when we're talking about their passing game,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: that's the guy.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 10: We have Tuesday players.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah, when they get into the game plan meeting on Tuesdays,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 9: who's circled on the depth chart?
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 10: And I think.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: Diggs was that.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 6: Diggs was that for the Patriots.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think, you know, like he's not Jefferson
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: or Chase or Well.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 10: I think that those guys.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: YEA.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: The answer has to be the answer is who do
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: we take out? Has to be a tough answer to
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: be a WR one. If it's an easy answer, he's
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: not a true WR one.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 9: I think the first part of the answer is a
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 9: coverage dictating receiver, somebody that's at the top of the
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 9: depth chart that we either have to put our number
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 9: one corner on him, if we have a stud corner,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 9: we have to double them.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 10: Whatever.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: A true number one receiver, like a true star number
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: one receiver beats the double team. I was just gonna say,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: right like that, that's the definition is Yeah, that's the
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: guy you identify, but you can't.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 6: Take him out.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: It's a problems too good, right problem?
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: Like I got a true number one receiver is JSN
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: Pooka Nakua like a guy that just you can double them,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: but Pokku is getting open and getting the ball.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 10: Anyway, Let's let's.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 8: Play a little game then, because I was wondering, like
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 8: how many actual number one receivers are there in the NFL.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 6: And that's why I also liked his.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: You know, what do you say, like sixteen or seventeen,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: because I would say probably half the league.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he's just asked.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 6: No I liked I liked his.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 9: That's why I think the different thing with Digs, Like
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 9: Diggs is a number one receiver for the last year
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 9: in my opinion, but he wasn't beating double teams anymore.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when they took him out.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: He was out, whereas some of these other guys that
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: do this is going to ratt along.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 8: But just like so, just going in order of receptions
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 8: from last year, JSN and Puka top two, right, I
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 8: was number one, number one, George Pickens the number one one.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 6: I would say Cede Lamb is their number one.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 8: Jamar Chase definitely, yes, Emon Ross, Saint Brown, Yes, Trey
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 8: McBride is the.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: But they Flowers No, no, well.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: Hold on Flowers.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: I was the number one receiver like Diggs is. Yeah,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: they like, here's the volume yet. But also but they
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: don't have a number one receiver.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: That's part of the Probably Nico Collins.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: Nico Collins is number one in my book.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 10: Yeah, he's a number one receiver.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: William except against Amra is their number one.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Cede Lamb, Yeah.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 6: Lamb the Cowboys number one.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: I think he is the number one. He produces, he's
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: we all agree. Yeah, but they were saying on your
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: shows yesterday that.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 6: They hate everybody in the league socks. They're like when
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 6: they leave repaid this.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 9: I mean, I'm not saying that he's like, you know,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 9: I get what his shows are saying about his competitiveness
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 9: and all that, But talent wise, he's a top ten.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: Receiver in Justin Jefferson, Yeah, Portland Sutton.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 6: No, No, So I don't think he is.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: I think he's a number one receiver. Yes, I don't
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: think he's their number one, but he's not.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 4: Elite in the League one. Dale Robinson, No, No, that's
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 4: my tech.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: McMillan, Yes, trending.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 6: McMillan is number one receiver upwards.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 4: Dafon Diggs number sixty.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 4: In receiving, DeVante.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 6: Smith Davante Smith No nastic.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 4: Classic classic, Robin almost threw all the thousand of my receivers.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: Michael Wilson of Arizona had a thousand yards, A J.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: Brown Yes, yes, and Alec Pearson then a Mecca Buca
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: rounds out the I would say trending.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 6: I would say no on both of those, but I
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 6: think Abuka could.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: Be that Deebo. Samuel used to be in his prime,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: but not anymore. He's available, right.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 9: He's Hopkins Cooks who are just perpetually free agency.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 6: Samuel, to me is the poster child.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: And it actually worked exactly the way everybody said it
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: would when the when the Niners were like running him
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: out of the back and he was all pissed about.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 6: It, and everybody's like, this guy, this guy's getting killed.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: There's no way he's gonna last and not exact narrate everybody.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: Said he was saying it.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: No, I know, but everybody agreed and you know, yeah,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: it's it's played out exactly like that.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 6: He's a shell of his former self.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: L from Wisconsin says the beauty of emails is that
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: Fred can choose to ignore the ones that makes the
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: same points. The problem with calls is when someone calls
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: in today saying, Hey, what do you guys think about
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: a J. Brown Fair?
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: Would you create enjoy one?
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 6: Mailer?
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, I like that. I like the crime. It's lovely,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: it's delicious. I'm here for Zach in New Hampshire. What's up, Zach?
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: He yes, yes, it's just I.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 20: Just wanted to get Evans take on Harold Perkins Junior,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 20: the linebacker from LSU potentially as like a chess piece
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 20: type of guy. Know, dak Kore likes the scheme uplets,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 20: just wanted to get your take on that.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: Why don't you want my take on him?
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 10: It's a good question.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 13: Well I'll take.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 9: I don't know who he is, Go ahead, Evan, Yeah,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 9: he was somebody that was really hot that during like
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 9: the start of the college football season. He's kind of
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 9: fallen off into a Day two pick now kind of
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 9: like a hybrid player.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 10: It can play a little bit.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 9: Off the ball, on the ball, athletic dude, a good
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 9: coverage player. I don't hate the player, but something has
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 9: been off with him. Didn't have a great season at LSU,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 9: and then he kind of fell down the board a
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 9: little bit as we've moved on here, you know, going
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 9: into college football season last fall, like some people are
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 9: like Harold Perkins, top twenty player in this class, and
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 9: now we're looking at him as like a Day two pick.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 9: So put him in that group, you know him, Jacob Rodriguez.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 9: You know all those linebackers are kind of in that
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 9: Day two cluster. He's in that group, wouldn't you say?
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 8: You know, when Bill's defense, it was hard to kind
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 8: of pin that spot, like he wanted bigger dudes on
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 8: the inside. And now it just feels like these guys
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 8: are more in play, Like I don't think built in
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 8: one hundred years with draft Rodriguez, even though he's probably
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 8: for special teams, but like, these guys can play in
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 8: this vable.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: So Seth, what's your take on him?
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 20: I mean, I really like him. Obviously, the freshman was
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 20: considered a top ten pick, one of the top players
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 20: in the nation, and then tour the ACL and has
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 20: had two down seasons, but he played the star position
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 20: at LSU, so I think, you know, you can really
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 20: move him around.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 15: I think he's a freak.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 20: And then one more I just wanted to know about.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 20: You saw Jeremy Bernard as like a younger Deebo Samuel. Yeah,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 20: and then I'll take it off here.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 9: Than Okay, thanks ch Yeah, I see him a little
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 9: bit different than Deebo. I think he's more of a
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 9: complete receiver than Debo, but not not the ballcarrier that
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 9: Debo was coming out. But yeah, he's smooth, like he
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 9: looks like he's like running around in it's effortless. Uh,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 9: really good change of direction, really good at the top
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 9: of the route, efficient mover. There's something about his play
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 9: strength and just sort of his physicality that's lacking. He's
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 9: the not have very good numbers on like contested targets,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 9: finishing in traffic, finishing through contact, like all that kind
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 9: of stuff that does matter in the league a lot
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 9: more than it matters in college. So that's sort of
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 9: the knock on him. But I think he's trending towards
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 9: fringe top fifty. Ye know, I'll be a second rounder
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 9: for sure.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: Tom and New Jersey is a quick would you rather
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: gain ready? Would you rather wide receiver? Brandon Ayuk or
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: Juan Jennings.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: Jan I think Brandon Ayuk's career is done?
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Alex Pierce or A J. Brown, Alec Alec
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: Pierce Now yeah, boy Mafe or kay Levon Chason.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 6: I'm going to say, chase him because he was here
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 6: and I know it worked.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 10: I'm with you.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: I like Kobe Dean or Devin Lloyd, Devin Lloyd Isaiah
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: likely or.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: I like Nikobe Dean. I'm going to be okay, I
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: like I saw him who k probably Kate.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 6: I don't know out I'm not. I'm not enamored with
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 6: either one, but.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: Last two reguards left guards Isaac.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 9: Or Joe so Sue Malo's younger. Yeah, but Tonio is
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 9: like a like a dig situation, like you're going to
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 9: get him for a year, and that would.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 6: Be my only question. I know both of those names,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 6: I didn't know.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 8: I mean, coming from San France, is that more like
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 8: a wide zone kind of guys? I mean they're different.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 8: I mean I believe Pittsburgh. Am I confusing him?
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 9: Yeah, No, sum Malo is a good player, but I
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 9: think he's probably going to make some money.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 6: I think those guards are going to cash in.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 10: Yeah, we're always looking at I don't know twelve.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: Speaking of Edwards, that's the next one, Zion Johnson or
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: David Edwards Edwards Edwards.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 9: I don't understand this Johnson. Yeah, he's been terrible. I
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 9: don't I have no idea why he's in this cluster
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 9: of playing.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: You remember when like all of the Chargers offensive linemen
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: were hurt and Justin Herbert got killed last, Zion Johnson
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: was in there.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 9: He was and he was the starter, like he was
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 9: the day one starter at that position and was a
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 9: turnstile no offense.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 6: All right, huh not really.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: Danny's in Daytona. What's up, Danny?
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 5: Hey, what's up? Fellas? How y'all doing today?
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: Hey?
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 5: So I just wanted to give you two quick takes.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 20: Hey.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys heard of Paul or
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 5: Evan or Fred or Mike, if you guys heard about
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 5: the I saw the report a couple of days ago
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: about Vederian Lowe. They were saying how Vderian Lowe has
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 5: kind of grown a market. You remember we all were
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 5: talking about how crazy, how how terrible he was in
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 5: twenty four and then he you know, gets a new
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 5: coaching staff and Josh comes in and this guy looks
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 5: pretty good of Will's absence, and now people are There
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 5: was an article I was reading from Neston and I'm like, dang,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 5: this guy, I mean, he did play well, and I'm like, man,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 5: the Patriots probably should bring him back. But then there
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 5: was some reports the National Forts saying, you know how
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 5: these uh, Evan brought up that guy from green Bay
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 5: and that guy was terrible as as in the lineup
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: for green Bay. That's why he's going to be available.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 15: He was the PFF.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 5: PFF had him greater in the sixties, sixty percent left tackle.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 6: Walker is a starter though he's not.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 12: But he is.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 5: Definitely I would never want Evan in his uh announce
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 5: me the comparison about maybe possibly at Pate looking that
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 5: I said I would not want.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know if Evan said that too, but that
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: was you can blame me on that one. I'm the
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: one that brought up and I would I would absolutely
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: be interested in him.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 5: No, I would not. Yeah, I would resign.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 6: I don't really care what his PFF g He that.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would. I would be calling I would Resigningerian
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 5: low before I'd be calling that guy into the building.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 6: One guy starts in the league and the other guy
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 6: doesn't like Yeah, but I.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 5: Mean Vaderia Lowe. You know he's the building.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 6: No, no, no, I'm just saying the players like Vedarian Lowe
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 6: packers better player.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he's a better player. I just for the Patriots.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 9: Unless you're kicking Morgan.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: I was looking, well, I was not cooking kicking. I
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: was kicking Campbell inside.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 6: But now that's all a point because they're pretty adamant
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 6: that that's not happening.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, gotcha.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah. No, like I said, if we were bringing maybe
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 5: Walker on the right side, but no, if you were
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: going to just wap them for Campbell, I have no
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 5: interest in that. Like Burke Tanne was saying, like, that's stupid.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 10: Well, we're not doing that, so we can move on.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 6: Then I'm moving Will Campbell, so we don't need to
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 6: discuss it.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 5: And then the other topic I wanted to bring up
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: that I keep the meaning to bring up all during
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: the offseason. Carlin Hurten made a really good point. A
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: lot of young teams have failed, you know, the main
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 5: cause while we see a lot of quarterbacks across the
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: league have failed in the NFL is because they haven't
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 5: had the three successful kes. And you know what those
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 5: three p's are good play caller, good protection, and dynamic playmakers.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: If you don't have those three p's, you see the
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 5: Patriots are the longest time when we had Mac Jones,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: we failed them. They didn't give him a good offense line.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 5: You guys talked about this during that time. Bill was
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 5: reluctant on paying top receivers big money. He was stuck
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 5: in the past, and then he kept trying to bring
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 5: his boys in people he knew he was reluctant and
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 5: bringing good people into call plays besides Josh after Josh
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: took off, and you see a lot of teams have
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 5: that same issue. They keep re kicking the can of
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 5: these old play callers or play callers who don't adapt
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 5: to the game and then they don't get They may
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 5: have one or two good playmakers, but I think if
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 5: you look at the great teams like the LA Rams,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 5: the Eagles, you feel the list goes on. The Kyle
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 5: Sanahans of the world. They have these dynamics. It's the scheme.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 5: They don't they don't.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 9: Was one of the worst coordinated offenses in football, and
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 9: the guy got fired.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 5: I'm saying. I'm saying over collectively, when they had Kelly Moore,
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 5: they were good. He saw once Keller Moore left, Keller
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 5: Moore is the scheme guy, and calling hurt made that analogy.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 5: When you have Kyle Shanahan isn't just a good head coach,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 5: He's a scheme guy. Anybody you can plug just I mean,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 5: you can take a jag and put him in the system.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 5: He can make it work because he knows how to
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 5: scheme people in and make it work. The only team
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 5: he had really good struggle with major struggles. And he
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 5: even came on the NBC broadcast he said was the Seahawks.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 5: He just couldn't crack McDonald's defense.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 11: He could, he said.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 5: He admittedly on the broadcast a lot of people thought, oh,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 5: Kyle Shannan should go into badcast and if he good
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 5: stout coaching. He was like, man, I just couldn't crack
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 5: the Seahawks defense. But he's his scheme is just and
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 5: calor herd. Instead of sending he says the Shanahan's of
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 5: the world and mcveigh's they have really good scheme and
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 5: you can take really good average Jack Blairs and plug
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 5: him in, or you can have elite players like Devontae
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 5: Adams who they have and Puka Nukuga who's you know,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 5: are freaking all pros and you know, Pro Bowlers and
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 5: stuff like that, and they make him look even better. So,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, Patriots need to get back. We have we're
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 5: putting together the play call, and I think Josh, I
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 5: think they need to bring in a senior offensive guy
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 5: into kind of help him because he a.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 8: Senior offensive guy for a guy who's been an offensive
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 8: coordinator for twenty five years in the league.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 5: No, I think because he does because he kind of
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 5: gets stuck in his ways. And the reason I say this,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 5: it's it's not maybe he.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: Is a junior guy.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 8: How much of it, though, Danny, do you think is
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 8: that Drake May was in his first year of the
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 8: system and that Josh couldn't unleash everything that he knows
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 8: onto that player.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 6: It's just unbelievable.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 5: Mike, you're right, but I leave you with this. I
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: leave no, I leave you with this. You need a
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 5: reason you bring another voice, And I thought I wanted
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: him to bring in Greg Rohman was a terrible offense corner,
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: but damn that guy can freaking like Colin hurts it.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 5: He can call. He knows run constips. And the one
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 5: reason that got him ran out of Baltimore's he didn't
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 5: know how to scheme a pass. He couldn't scheme passing plays.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 5: He knows how to get dominant run game out of
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 5: quarterbacks and the running backs and moving the sight ends run.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 5: I think you bring in a guy that's still there
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 5: to Greg Roman, that has a real good run game background,
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 5: and you bring him into the building and say, hey, look,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 5: I want you to come up with run game concepts,
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 5: not that I can't do it. I just want you
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 5: to focus on calling run game concepts, and on game
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 5: day we'll mix that in and we'll mix my play
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 5: calling with the passing game, because obviously the run game
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 5: was the Patriots plague all year. I mean, you look
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 5: at Travon Henderson, he looked like what's his name, uh,
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 5: the guy from the Seahawks Walker. He's a one trick pony,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 5: but the only his only best quality was.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: Was all And I believe I disagree with a no. No,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: I don't just necessarily I just don't even know so
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: where we have an issue at play caller. And I
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: don't say he didn't have a run opinion. I'm just
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: saying I disagree with I'm seriously disaster. I I thought
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 3: about what you just said, though, Deuce a little bit.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: Just like by the end of the season, you know,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: you're watching the Patriots offense, and you're watching it and
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: like there's just a lot of repeat plays, right, Like
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 3: they're just kind of in the same buttons over and
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: over again. And you know, great play callers, especially guys
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: that have two weeks to prepare for something like the
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl, they're going to sort of fit pick up
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: on these tendencies and figure out what your core concepts
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: are and all that kind of stuff. And it did
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: not maybe because you know, of what you were talking
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: to me about, Like how much was it that they
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: just had a bunch of young guys out there then
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 3: they just couldn't open up the playbooks, so to speak,
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 3: in the way that maybe they can move in.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 10: No, I mean I haven't really talking about the quarterbacks.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, because we talk about going into this season, was
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 8: that now it's all going to be on Drake. Drake's
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 8: gonna have to make the calls of the line. Drake's
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 8: gonna have to call the protections out. Do you think
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 8: that Mike McDonald's screwed with that a little bit and
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 8: was able to get him on some things and get
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 8: him in his own head a little bit.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 10: Yes, Yeah.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: I thought the offense had a tremendous season, from the
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 3: play caller to the performance of the players on the field.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 3: I thought they maximized what they had, Like the whole
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: thing started with Quarterbacks get failed when they don't have
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: basically everything at an elite level, right right, Well, I
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: don't really need a quarterback then, Like if I have
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: like great players at every level and I have great
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: play callers, like I need the quarterback to be able
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 3: to do a little bit more than that for the
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: most part, because there's no real perfect situations.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 9: In the run game stuff like last season is the
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 9: outlier for Josh McDaniels. McDaniels has always had a really
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 9: good running game statistically, and so has Rabel. I mean,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 9: obviously Derek Henry.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: That's the last thing I want, by the way, But
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: I think last year was you know, even in Vegas
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 3: when with Josh Jacobs led the league in rushing in
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 3: McDaniels is only full year in Vega.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: From a mental standpoint, was last year a wasted year
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: for Drake May.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 10: A wasted year?
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 6: No, just the opposit.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: I don't mean when I say last year, I mean
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: his first year, his rookie year.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 8: No, No, No, But I think he's it's a lot
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 8: more about twenty twenty five now and going forward to
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 8: being in this offense using that as well.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: Like, I think he worked on a lot of you know,
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: fundamental things I see learned about. Was there anything that
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: he could have taken mentally from four and applied it
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: to five? Or was he starting over?
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: Sure?
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 8: No, I mean I know what you're saying, different scheme,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 8: but just being in an NFL game and understanding the
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 8: flow of the game and.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 4: You know what's going to be required of you and
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 4: how hard it is to win.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 8: But I get what you're saying Fred about, like, you know,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 8: did he schematically learn things playbook wise?
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 4: I mean probably a little bit. I mean you're still
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 4: throwing similar concepts.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 6: We'll just take it a step further.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: Let's just say, for argument's sake, hypothetical happens and Josh
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: McDaniels needs to resign tomorrow and they need to bring
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: in some guy who not not Ashton Grant or.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 6: Todd Downing or Thomas Brown. Thomas Brown.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 3: That you have to go outside and someone comes in
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: and has a completely different offense? Was last year a
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 3: waste for Drake may Well?
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: But what if it taught him how to read defenses?
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 6: You don't think you got taught how to read defenses
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 6: the year before.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 6: Is this another one of those things that guy's not
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 6: here anymore? So now he was?
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: I tell you, I thought last year, like the whole
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: calling at the line was not last year. I keep
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: saying last year four. It wasn't his responsibility to make it.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 3: It was different his responsibility. But the guy who comes
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: in next year, like in this hypothetical might not ask
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 3: him to.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 6: Do that either.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: I know, but I'm just saying, but he learned about it,
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: did he? How do you not learn in oh four
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: making calls at the line is no.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 6: No, no, no, You learn how to play the game.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: I don't care what you do playa facing defense.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, I think in twenty twenty four there was a.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 9: Lot less on him mentally, both at the line of scrimmage,
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 9: and also post snap because they had a lot more
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 9: preer progression reads in that offense and not as much
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 9: coverage reads. So I think in a lot of ways,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 9: Josh mcdaniels's offense was a step up from maybe like
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 9: graduate level to like PhD, you know, or doctorate level
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 9: of offense. But I don't think that that necessarily means
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 9: that you didn't learn anything in twenty four. It's just
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 9: a different level of different style of offense.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: I would hope anyway, if he didn't, if he didn't
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: gain experience and learn something from it, that's a bad sign.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 10: Now, I think he definitely did.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: Adam and Louisiana says Evan is wrong. Oh, Harrold Perkins
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: is not a good coverage player. I graduated from LSU
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: and watch every LSU football game. He moved from an
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: on the line player as a freshman to an off
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: ball linebacker because he's too small for edge. He has
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: looked completely out of place at linebacker. He's no instincts
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: for coverage and isn't great against the run. His best
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: position as being a QB spy.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 6: Interesting, Okay, that's it.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're gonna you're gonna.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 10: Like if he has an opinion. He has an opinion.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, along every game along those lines, I had a
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: lot of people watch every game. I don't know if
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you caught this, but late last
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: week there was a little Twitter thing where some guy
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 3: was in an argument on Twitter.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 6: What saying that happens?
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: This has been Christian Watson's whole m o. He does this,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: this and this, and he's always hurt and he was
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: a one trick pony in college. I've watched every game
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: that he's played. And he was arguing with Christian Watson's
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: father on Twitter. He goes, well, actually, I'm Christian Watson's
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: dad and I've seen every game he's played at every level,
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 3: and you don't know what you're saying.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 4: I hope he didn't back down. He's like, yeah, all
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 4: due respect.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: I still think, Paul, is that what you call being ratio?
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 6: If you say so, I don't know that term.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: They don't use that anymore on Twitter.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: Ratio ratio. I've never heard that yet. That doesn't mean it's.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 9: Being ratio means that there's more replies to your tweet
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 9: than there are likes on your tweet. So like when
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 9: you have a really bad take and you get ratio.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 9: That means that your applies or outnumber the people that
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 9: agree with you, because a like is usually seen as
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 9: like an endorsement, like that good take.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's been about it.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll bet you falls into that category.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: I don't even know why he posts anything.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 10: I mean, immediately a pious.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 4: I feel like Benvolan's purposely Yeah, I think you are
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 4: just he's.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 10: Yeah, just like Paul Shows, just poking.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: You guys make fun of me because I'm always being
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 3: critical and now you guys are beating up on poor Ben.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: Let's see Adam in California. What's up Adam?
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 11: Hey, how's it going? Guys?
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: Okay everything.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 11: I watched the show every every week. I just wanted
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 11: to give my quick take when it comes to a.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 6: I'll give me one second, all right, We'll take your time.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we we have all day.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 6: Get back to us.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 11: When Yeah, a lot of people are talking about Alec Pears.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 18: He's a great player, but.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 11: Honestly, I just don't see him in that level. And
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 11: if aj Brown would be out, like why not, if
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 11: you're going to shoot for the stars, why not give
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 11: Minnesota a call? I know it sounds crazy.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 22: But when you look at Minnesota's position, they're literally like.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 11: Fifty million over the cast base.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 22: They have no quarterback Justin Jefferson. It's been like two
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 22: years already that he's been like frustrated. So and you
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 22: see Minnesota selling pieces, So why not give him a
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 22: call and see hypothetically a what would it take to
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 22: get Justin Jefferson that you guys?
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 9: Okay, I think that those types of calls happen every year.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 9: It's worth a call, and they say it's either a
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 9: straight click he does they are nothing or are you here? Well,
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 9: if you're willing to trade us four first round picks
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 9: or whatever the maximum is, then.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, well, no one wants to give a first
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: round pick?
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: And what is it?
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 3: What is Philadelphia looking for? Supposed to be a one
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: into three in a player? Yeah, I heard one player,
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: one in two in a player? No one wants to
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 3: give that for a J Brown? What do you think
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 3: Minnesota would accept?
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: Get to deal a one.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: One one probably and a player You're probably right?
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 6: Three ones?
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, sounds right.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 8: But I do it just to uh yeah, avoid having
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 8: to talk about it anymore.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 6: It's worth a call.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 4: We got a number one?
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no in Toronto. I don't get why Paul and
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: Evan have such a hard time understanding why fans felt
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: like digs twenty million cap hit was too high. It's
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: about opportunity cost.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 6: Cop hit was twenty six.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: When someone says that Saint Kim's twenty million is too large,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: they're implicitly saying that they like to spend those resources elsewhere.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: Of course, cap numbers can be manipulated to a large extent,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, Craft cannot put
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: infinite resources into the roster. Would you rather have Digs
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: to say Jalen Phillips, Paul, don't say both. At some
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: point there's a limit on the amount of resources the
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: team is willing to spend on the roster. If you
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: want Digs and Phillips, then there has to be a
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: cut made somewhere else. I have repeated that.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 9: I have repeated that point for three weeks, so I
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 9: don't really like so Yes, that's the other side of
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 9: the argument is opportunity costs.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 10: Absolutely.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 3: I'll take Jalen Phillips, but I need to know what
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 3: you're doing a wide receiver who's Digs's replacement. See the
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 3: thing that I push back on is. Everybody says, I
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 3: don't want to pay Stefan Digs twenty million dollars this year. Okay,
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 3: well you have to pay somebody something to replace Steffan Diggs.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 3: What is that going to be? That's what my comparison is.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 3: My comparison isn't what the best edge rusher available on
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 3: the market. My comparison is, I'm going to now have
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 3: Darnell Mooney playing my volume wide receiver instead OF's fond
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 3: Steffan Diggs. And it's going to cost me thirteen million
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 3: for Mooney, it would have cost me twenty. I'll take
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 3: Digs to me.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: Sports would be a lot more enjoyable to follow if
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: we weren't talking about money all the time.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: If you just do it the way evident I do
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 3: it and ignore that part of it because it's not ours, right,
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 3: then you can just sort of abilit way what makes
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 3: you better.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 4: There's a way to make it happen. I mean, it's
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 4: just it's you know, but I guess everybody enjoyed to.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: Treat contracts like hippo.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 6: Tom Brady.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 3: This is all This is all Tom Brady's fault because
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 3: Tom Brady won at an exceptionally high level for an
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: exceptionally long period of time, and it didn't matter who
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 3: the pieces were, so you could fit them in with
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 3: the cheapest ones that you could get. The problem is
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 3: not everybody's Tom Brady, and it doesn't work like that
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 3: for most teams.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 9: I do think that this in a way the organization
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 9: has learned that in the last five ors.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt they changed.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 9: Because I think that the way that they've been willing
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 9: to go to the top of the market at wide
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 9: receiver really since Elliot Wolf started making decisions around here.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 10: Now, they haven't always landed.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 6: They haven't landed, but they're trying.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 9: But they've been trying all every single offseason since Elliott
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 9: Wolf took more power.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 3: Last year one hundred and seventy five million in guaranteed money,
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 3: they said, in free agency.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 6: That's a lot of money.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 8: That's that's what's exciting to me about this little pocket
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 8: and time of Like you said that, that's what I've
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 8: been thinking about. They've been in on all these guys,
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 8: I mean Calvin Ridley's and the Brendan and I I mean,
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 8: they take swings at all these guys. I'm sure they're
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 8: taking a swing on every single one of these guys,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 8: Jacket and Abba. For the love of God, does anyone
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 8: remember how the Seahawks trash the Patriots offensive line in
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 8: the Super Bowl. This talk that wide receivers should be
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 8: the patriots number one offseason.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: Priority is madness.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 10: Why not both?
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: The number one offseason priority is offensive line and the
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: Patriots need at least two new players to fix it.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 6: So here, I don't think you're wrong.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 3: I think the offensive line struggled, Okay, might they not
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 3: have struggled as much if the wide receivers were better?
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: Right, It's all, It's all one thing.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 6: You know, did Drake hold the ball a little bit?
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 6: What did you look sure of himself?
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 4: Might they look better if Drake knew it was coming?
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 3: And maybe if Drake played better, the offensive line would
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: have looked better. Maybe if the receivers uncovered quicker, Drake
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: would have played better in the offensive line would have
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 3: looked better.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 10: I just I don't know why. It's not both, it's
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 10: it's everything.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: But if you have to pick on top, you know.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 10: But why do I have to pick a top?
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: Because he asked you?
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 6: Okay?
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 3: But if I had to pick a top wide receiver, right,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 3: exactly like every offensive line says.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: You can't have one.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 3: Because every single time I asked Mike Rabel, Elliott Wolf,
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: what what are your needs this offseason?
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 10: Depth across the roster.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: It's never that.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 3: No, No, they they did they afterwards they'd said playmaker's
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 3: offensive line edge. But they're just saying, like, don't lose
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 3: sight of the fact that we need to improve the
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: whole thing. So like when people say, you know, why
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 3: are we prioritizing offensive line over wide receiver, they're not.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 3: They're they're trying to get better at both areas and
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 3: that's possible.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: But he didn say what they're doing. He just wants
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: to know what should be the priority.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 3: My pick is wide receiver. Yeah, if I can only
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 3: say one thing, that would be my choice. I spent
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 3: the whole year and everybody telling me how much better
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 3: the offensive line was, and then they had a horrific
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl, and I'm going to overreact to that. Now,
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 3: according to you, not me, the offensive line is mid. Sure,
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: but it was I was told it was a lot
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 3: better than where I was told all year that it
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 3: wasn't an issue, wasn't mid in at So now all
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 3: of a sudden, all these people like we have to
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 3: get at least two new offensive linemen. Right, He's not.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 3: He's not an outliar that the emailer but a lot
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 3: of people believe.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 8: But in our defense, the only positions we're really talking
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 8: about this offseason our edge wide receiver and offense.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 2: Unless Moses retires. I think you need one new You.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 4: Need a left guard and need the left guard Evans thing.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 4: I'm a rubber stamped at one hundred percent. I would
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 4: love it.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 8: I would just love, you know, the David ed Edwards signing. Great,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 8: you know, plug him in. Let will just compete inside.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 8: You know why why don't you see it?
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: Could?
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 6: I think it would be too much, too much money.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 3: And I think that they it's the guard market. We're
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 3: not asking you to pay him thirty million dollars a year.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 3: Go give David Edwards nineteen.
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  Speaker 2: I would do you even have to do you even
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  Speaker 2: have to go to the top of the list. Now,
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  Speaker 2: can you get a solid guard if you want to
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  Speaker 2: get down the list?
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  Speaker 3: I think I don't want to like to just have
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  Speaker 3: a guy who's as good as the guy I have.
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  Speaker 9: I think that any one of the guys besides maybe
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  Speaker 9: Zion Johnson, no disrespect is better than.
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  Speaker 2: Is better because I clows my mind.
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  Speaker 9: It really bothers me. And we're running at time, but
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  Speaker 9: it really bothers me. When we're sitting on my couch
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  Speaker 9: on Sunday watching the combine and I in Rapaport's face
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  Speaker 9: comes up on the screen and he sells me that
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  Speaker 9: Zion Johnson's gonna make twenty million dollars a year on
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  Speaker 9: the open market.
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  Speaker 6: I think these guards are going to make a lot
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  Speaker 6: of money.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, But I'm looking at it and I'm like, first
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  Speaker 3: of all, if you're watching this right now, you're like
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  Speaker 3: the nerd of the nerd of football world. It's offensive
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  Speaker 3: line workouts on a Sunday in March.
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  Speaker 6: I probably did not watch any of this, fair enough, okay.
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  Speaker 3: So, like he comes on the screen and he's like,
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  Speaker 3: not a lot of people have probably heard of David
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  Speaker 3: Edwards and Zion Johnson, and I'm like.
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  Speaker 6: So, I'm sorry, they're ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody watching has heard of those two players. And then
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  Speaker 3: he tries to sell me that they're gonna pay Zion
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  Speaker 3: Johnson twenty million dollars a year.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know what the numbers are going to be.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: There's going to be a market for those those guys.
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  Speaker 3: You know the bills have the center to McGovern. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: I think there's going to be a market. First being
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 3: over twenty million.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, so well Underbaum is a great player.
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  Speaker 3: Right, but I think these interior offensive linemen are going
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 3: to make some money.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: All right, We're going to wrap up the show with
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  Speaker 2: Sam and Connecticut.
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  Speaker 10: What's up, Samm?
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  Speaker 18: I do things?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 21: First, I had a minor correction. Uh still, getting ratio
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  Speaker 21: isn't like more replies than like life. It's when someone replies.
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  Speaker 9: And they just get a lot more like than the original,
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  Speaker 9: like tweet disagree.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I have no idea.
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  Speaker 21: Yeah, that's just like the general consensus I think for it.
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  Speaker 21: But anyway, the question I had, I don't think so
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 21: Casey Concepcion from sex A and M. I was just wondering,
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  Speaker 21: what role does he kind of play as a receiver
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  Speaker 21: like an x y Z and who do you think
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  Speaker 21: he would replace? Taking like big spot Z. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 21: that's all I have.
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  Speaker 4: Now you'd be a digs in training, Yeah, dig z
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  Speaker 4: spot moving around. You know somebody.
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  Speaker 9: Getting ratio social media slang for a post usually on
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  Speaker 9: X that receives significantly more replies and comments than likes
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  Speaker 9: or shares, signaling widespread disapproval or backlash.
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  Speaker 2: Backlash, whoa you dropped the phone?
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 4: Drop the phone?
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: The phone? I think we have a topic Alex for
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: the newsletter ratio ratio, and then maybe you could do some.
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  Speaker 10: Other I just told you what it means.
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  Speaker 4: Can I actually before we wrap up?
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  Speaker 2: According to who is there?
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  Speaker 6: Me ai?
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: Everybody?
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  Speaker 8: Hey, I uh, any chance we have to hop in
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 8: here at all on Monday when free agency stuff's going on?
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 4: Emergency emergency I.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: Don't know, is there? So would you consider a J Brown? Like, yes, yeah,
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: that news I think that would be a face so
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: there might be AJ Brown.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 6: Acquiring a J Brown to me would be emergency pod worthy.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 3: Okay that's just my view, but I'm always looking from
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 3: the hodays.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: We're going to wrap it up for that, don't hope
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• 1:57:15
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