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- 0:17Speaker 1: Get into Gate episode three hundred and twenty two were
- 0:20Speaker 1: talken Stargate Universe season one, episode twelve, Divided and to
- 0:27Speaker 1: stick with that, we've decided to be divided ourselves and
- 0:31Speaker 1: just zoom it in. So joining me is the way
- 0:34Speaker 1: we will commit to a bit. I reckon the man
- 0:37Speaker 1: joining me down the line forever trying to get his
- 0:39Speaker 1: shit together, But were divided Mitch Lewis, could I mean?
- 0:42Speaker 1: I get?
- 0:42Speaker 2: I'm like, who is he going to refer to here?
- 0:44Speaker 2: Who could possibly.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Be through no fault of his own? Near Redcliffe in Queensland,
- 0:50Speaker 1: High pitch Maddie, the one and only, Oh.
- 0:53Speaker 3: Jesus, give up my TFN while you're at it.
- 0:57Speaker 1: Near Redcliff. That could be anywhere Ireland.
- 1:03Speaker 3: I see now you've ruined it because there is a
- 1:05Speaker 3: red Cliffe over in w.
- 1:06Speaker 1: A and all the way from Western Australia. High pitched Maddie.
- 1:12Speaker 3: I love, oh, I love a good docksing make.
- 1:15Speaker 2: We could have really narrowed it down by making you
- 1:17Speaker 2: sound like a wanker and going and live from.
- 1:19Speaker 1: Bright and.
- 1:22Speaker 3: Everybody does that.
- 1:23Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:24Speaker 3: I think they're get confused with the Melbourne Brighton, because
- 1:26Speaker 3: of course Brighton is not at all fancy. Mm hmmm,
- 1:32Speaker 3: pretty brogan, pretty bogoney. I mean there's a couple of
- 1:35Speaker 3: nice houses here and there, but that's true of any suburb.
- 1:37Speaker 3: I live next to a caravan park for sake, Like,
- 1:40Speaker 3: what what what.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Do we do yourself? Now? Unbelievable. Suspecting an alien tracking
- 1:50Speaker 1: device maybe hidden somewhere aboard the Destiny, Colonel Young and
- 1:55Speaker 1: Lieutenant Scott searched the ship's hull will distracted by the search.
- 1:59Speaker 1: A group of board the Destiny puts in action a
- 2:02Speaker 1: coup that has life threatening consequences. I don't like it
- 2:06Speaker 1: when they call it the Destiny. Mm, rather just destiny.
- 2:12Speaker 1: What do you what do you for? That's what do
- 2:15Speaker 1: you think?
- 2:17Speaker 2: Yeah? Drops, as JT once famously said, drop the the
- 2:21Speaker 2: like just destiny is fine, the Destiny. We're not confusing
- 2:25Speaker 2: it with any.
- 2:25Speaker 1: Other Facebook No, no, just Facebook.
- 2:30Speaker 3: Just baiting me at this point, Like am I am
- 2:32Speaker 3: I supposed to say something? Or what?
- 2:35Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you like the Destiny or Destiny? Oh?
- 2:39Speaker 3: I like Destiny. But obviously there's a whole thing about
- 2:42Speaker 3: whether it's enterprise or the enterprise.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Well, no one brought that up.
- 2:46Speaker 3: And then obviously and then there's a. There's a great
- 2:49Speaker 3: it's like the third episode of Voyager because it's just Voyager.
- 2:52Speaker 3: It's just Voyager, the USS Voyager, but it's just Voyager.
- 2:57Speaker 3: And then there's this one horrible life I'm reading from
- 3:01Speaker 3: one of the first episodes where Tom Parris just kind
- 3:03Speaker 3: of turns around to the screen goes it's the Voyager
- 3:07Speaker 3: like he's Peter Deloiz doing like over the top, and
- 3:11Speaker 3: it gives me life every time.
- 3:14Speaker 1: I love it Divided, directed written by the Bloody Dynamic
- 3:19Speaker 1: duo Joe Altsi and and directed by I Don't Done.
- 3:26Speaker 1: I've never seen this guy before. Felix Enrique had a
- 3:30Speaker 1: Salka al color alcala, felixque.
- 3:36Speaker 3: One and done. I believe el commentary they mentioned it
- 3:41Speaker 3: it's his first time and he never comes back. But
- 3:43Speaker 3: all the crew in the audio commentary are rating but
- 3:46Speaker 3: how much they loved him.
- 3:47Speaker 1: That was pretty good. I like this start. Chloe's good
- 3:53Speaker 1: old Chloe had a bit of a nightmare happening with.
- 3:58Speaker 3: That song was weird though. What did you guys think
- 4:01Speaker 3: of the song? I think that that was a very
- 4:02Speaker 3: odd isn't It's a cool song, but just a very
- 4:05Speaker 3: odd song choice for a dream Simons.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty heavy, and I was actually I was watching
- 4:12Speaker 1: it in the car through the stereo and it was booming.
- 4:16Speaker 1: Oh damn, Chloe's been a silly duffer again. Yeah, it's
- 4:30Speaker 1: what hello week Low, Well we like. Yeah, she falls
- 4:44Speaker 1: into the pool and say, sees old Eiffel sixty five?
- 4:48Speaker 1: Were they Is that what they called?
- 4:50Speaker 4: Yes?
- 4:50Speaker 1: Just it is Eifel sixty I don't know, I can't remember.
- 4:56Speaker 1: It was sixty five or sixty one? Sixty five one
- 4:59Speaker 1: of great alien species?
- 5:02Speaker 3: Sixty nine Eiffel like an Eiffel Tower. I actually probably
- 5:09Speaker 3: could an Eiffel tower into a sixty nine. Could I'm
- 5:11Speaker 3: sure there's ways.
- 5:13Speaker 1: What does that mean?
- 5:13Speaker 2: I'm sure try.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember this episode being one of those ones
- 5:18Speaker 1: where you'd take the side of either the mutiny or
- 5:21Speaker 1: the people on the military. So as the newcomer, Mitch,
- 5:26Speaker 1: I remember what it was for me the first time,
- 5:28Speaker 1: and I think it's changed this time. But what was
- 5:30Speaker 1: your thoughts on that.
- 5:31Speaker 2: I think because of the unexpected nature by those that
- 5:35Speaker 2: were held so that the military, I was on their
- 5:39Speaker 2: side just because I think we were there with them
- 5:42Speaker 2: when so I was sort of living it through that
- 5:44Speaker 2: as opposed to like, you know, you got little bits
- 5:46Speaker 2: and peace along the way. As an audience member, it
- 5:48Speaker 2: wasn't like you found out what the mutineers were were doing,
- 5:51Speaker 2: or who entirely was on their their team or anything
- 5:54Speaker 2: like that. But yeah, I think I was in on
- 5:57Speaker 2: the on the military side just because of that. You
- 6:00Speaker 2: know that those moments where you get a couple of
- 6:02Speaker 2: people like, you know, we've got a couple of botanists
- 6:04Speaker 2: that are like, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna hold the
- 6:06Speaker 2: military down. It's like Gough, like, come on, who do
- 6:10Speaker 2: you think you are? How well do you think this
- 6:11Speaker 2: is gonna go? And you know, as soon as those
- 6:14Speaker 2: ships showed up, I'm sort of skipping ahead a bit
- 6:16Speaker 2: just to make that point that it's it's one of
- 6:19Speaker 2: those shows where up until this point, you know, you
- 6:23Speaker 2: might have the the the gay Asian woman who's taking charge,
- 6:29Speaker 2: and all these other things that happened along the way,
- 6:31Speaker 2: and people are like, oh god, that's just so work
- 6:33Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But then in this episode it's like,
- 6:35Speaker 2: ah shit, we're getting their asses kicked. Maybe we do
- 6:38Speaker 2: need the military around to make some bloody calls and
- 6:41Speaker 2: to shoot some guns and to throw some bombs into
- 6:43Speaker 2: space and just kill some things, you know, so it
- 6:46Speaker 2: sort of like goes the complete opposite of maybe what
- 6:48Speaker 2: you were thinking it was going. But now I was
- 6:50Speaker 2: on the military side, just because maybe it's just that
- 6:53Speaker 2: little bit of a like, oh fuck you rush, Like
- 6:55Speaker 2: I get what you're doing, and I kind of like
- 6:57Speaker 2: some of what you're doing, but this feel was like
- 7:00Speaker 2: a in their situation. This feels like a step too far.
- 7:04Speaker 2: It is divided. There's the name of the episode. How
- 7:07Speaker 2: do you come back from this? You know, like you
- 7:09Speaker 2: were stuck there forever for the next week. You don't
- 7:13Speaker 2: know how do you how do you mend what has
- 7:16Speaker 2: happened today? And I guess I'll have to But at
- 7:20Speaker 2: this point in time, as an audience member, of a
- 7:21Speaker 2: first time audience member, I'm like, I don't know how
- 7:23Speaker 2: you come back from this. And maybe they had to
- 7:26Speaker 2: do it because the way that they were they were
- 7:28Speaker 2: living wasn't working. But I was on I was on
- 7:32Speaker 2: the military side, and that might make me a simpleton,
- 7:34Speaker 2: but that's where.
- 7:34Speaker 1: I think I was the first time too, And the
- 7:37Speaker 1: only reason it's different this time around for me is
- 7:41Speaker 1: just because what I said last couple of weeks was
- 7:44Speaker 1: just like after Rush got left on the planet by
- 7:47Speaker 1: Young and then Young comes back and automatically just gets
- 7:50Speaker 1: put back in charge when they find out that I
- 7:54Speaker 1: mate Baldly already got shot shot himself, and I just thought, well,
- 8:01Speaker 1: I feel like Ray should have just stayed in charge
- 8:03Speaker 1: at that point until everything calmed down or they kind
- 8:06Speaker 1: of settled what they were going to do in the
- 8:08Speaker 1: long term.
- 8:09Speaker 2: Yeah, and I get like at the time where you know,
- 8:12Speaker 2: she came down real hard on Young and in the
- 8:15Speaker 2: trial and all that sort of stuff, like there were
- 8:16Speaker 2: some suspicions, but it was you know, as we pointed out,
- 8:19Speaker 2: she was making arguments to Chloe like, well, look, someone's
- 8:22Speaker 2: going to pay for it, and someone did something and
- 8:25Speaker 2: he might not be his innocent in other areas, so
- 8:27Speaker 2: kind of like, well, let's just make it him. And
- 8:30Speaker 2: maybe had she not have handled things as not even aggressively,
- 8:35Speaker 2: but as aggressively so quickly the way that she did
- 8:38Speaker 2: in that episode, maybe she would have been able to
- 8:40Speaker 2: hang on to some control that wouldn't have needed this
- 8:44Speaker 2: particular decision to be made in this episode, which is
- 8:48Speaker 2: causing even more friction. I can understand why she's doing
- 8:51Speaker 2: it but I think.
- 8:52Speaker 1: She could have talked Young down. I think she could
- 8:54Speaker 1: have been like, listen, this is not going to end.
- 8:57Speaker 1: I think we either have a vote to see who's
- 8:59Speaker 1: in che or you know, a lot of people coming
- 9:02Speaker 1: to me and they're not very happy, especially now that
- 9:07Speaker 1: she knows because Rush told her that he did leave
- 9:09Speaker 1: her on the planet, even though he was denying it
- 9:11Speaker 1: last week. So I'm like, well, and now you've got
- 9:14Speaker 1: to just have a conversation instead of getting to this
- 9:16Speaker 1: point so quickly.
- 9:18Speaker 3: I think it was actually like Camille was just a
- 9:23Speaker 3: pawn in this, Like I get the vibe that it
- 9:27Speaker 3: was all Russia's idea. And in the same way we
- 9:29Speaker 3: were speaking about a few weeks ago that Rush like knew,
- 9:33Speaker 3: he knows that he can manipulate Telford and that's why
- 9:36Speaker 3: you know he wanted Telford on the mission originally after
- 9:41Speaker 3: last week and the week before it, like he knows
- 9:43Speaker 3: he's burnt his bridges with Young. He's not getting anywhere
- 9:46Speaker 3: with Young even though they're like oh and all that shit.
- 9:50Speaker 3: There's no way Rush is ever getting what he wants
- 9:52Speaker 3: with Young in command. So I think he's he's put
- 9:59Speaker 3: that seed in Camille's head or maybe the fact from
- 10:01Speaker 3: when Camille being put in command, he's used that to
- 10:06Speaker 3: manipulate her, you know, ego to say, well, you'd be
- 10:10Speaker 3: a better leader, blah blah blah, because he's like, well,
- 10:13Speaker 3: let's see if I can manipulate Camille to get what
- 10:15Speaker 3: I want. And you see it like suddenly he's you know,
- 10:18Speaker 3: talking about the projects that he wants to do and
- 10:22Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. So, yeah, it was a
- 10:24Speaker 3: real weird one for me. Like I'm I think even
- 10:26Speaker 3: during the first watch of this show, I was very
- 10:28Speaker 3: much like, well, why does it need to be one
- 10:33Speaker 3: person in command? Why can't it be a counsel, you know,
- 10:36Speaker 3: why can't it be the three of them? Why can't
- 10:38Speaker 3: it be Rush, Camille, and Young all you know, getting
- 10:43Speaker 3: an equal vote and that way, you know, it's it's
- 10:46Speaker 3: always going to be a two to one vote or
- 10:48Speaker 3: or all yay or an all nay, like there's no
- 10:50Speaker 3: other option that there's always going to be a tiebreaker person.
- 10:53Speaker 3: But also, you know, have have a clear delineation of
- 11:00Speaker 3: of roles. You know, obviously in this situation where there
- 11:03Speaker 3: was a tactical scenario going on, well it's like, well, yeah,
- 11:07Speaker 3: you'd defer to young in you don't want to have
- 11:09Speaker 3: a you know, a ten minute conversation in the middle
- 11:11Speaker 3: of a battle deciding on what our next action should be.
- 11:14Speaker 3: It's just like that's young speciality. Russa's speciality is the
- 11:19Speaker 3: science teams. But it's like there's not just scientists and
- 11:22Speaker 3: military people, there's there's other civilians there as well. And
- 11:25Speaker 3: so that's why I think Camille is a good tiebreaker
- 11:28Speaker 3: because and she can also see both sides of the coin.
- 11:32Speaker 3: So yeah, I think she got manipulated here.
- 11:36Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was I was watching Stargate Atlantis with Jack.
- 11:40Speaker 1: We just started Atlantis, and he's enjoying that so far,
- 11:43Speaker 1: and I noticed, like in the pilot, especially when Shepherd,
- 11:48Speaker 1: he was like, all right, we lost Sumner. I'm going
- 11:52Speaker 1: to go get a paddle jumper and go get him.
- 11:54Speaker 1: And she's like, hold up, hold up, you have to
- 11:57Speaker 1: ask me first. And then he was like, listen, this
- 11:59Speaker 1: is what you brought me here to do. This is
- 12:01Speaker 1: why you picked me. This is why I wasn't allowed
- 12:03Speaker 1: to join Stargate Command. I had to come here because
- 12:05Speaker 1: O'Neil wanted me to, so let me do my thing.
- 12:09Speaker 1: I think in the same scenario here young could be
- 12:12Speaker 1: the guy who does all the military action, but then
- 12:15Speaker 1: the day to day stuff can be Camille.
- 12:19Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 12:20Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that was to her as a civilian.
- 12:22Speaker 3: But yeah, because I think that was the downside to
- 12:25Speaker 3: Atlantis in the way that it was very much a
- 12:28Speaker 3: military run expedition and we are as a civilian, was
- 12:34Speaker 3: put in the head of it, which you can't have,
- 12:37Speaker 3: you know, in terms of like we've spoken about, like
- 12:39Speaker 3: her pay grade is basically that of a general. She's
- 12:41Speaker 3: a civilian version of a general, but she didn't understand
- 12:45Speaker 3: the military, so it was harder for her to work
- 12:48Speaker 3: in with that, whereas with this it's this is very
- 12:50Speaker 3: much an ioa run expedition. So I think, yeah, they
- 12:56Speaker 3: I don't know whether it's just the show like the
- 12:58Speaker 3: writers I used to you know, just well, the military
- 13:00Speaker 3: is in charge because it's it's Stargate. The military has
- 13:02Speaker 3: always been in charge. But yeah, I think they definitely
- 13:05Speaker 3: had an opportunity to change it around a bit. But
- 13:08Speaker 3: also I think it's you know, they're intentionally doing this
- 13:13Speaker 3: because they I believe in early Atlantis they said they
- 13:16Speaker 3: kind of they didn't take all the opportunities they could
- 13:19Speaker 3: to have a lot of that friction between the civilians
- 13:23Speaker 3: of the military. So I think they they're really doubling
- 13:26Speaker 3: down on this show, but I think maybe to a
- 13:31Speaker 3: disservice to the show. Because the characters are so so
- 13:34Speaker 3: much darker and so much more in the gray, I
- 13:37Speaker 3: think it makes it a little bit harder.
- 13:38Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes you don't want to take either side's point
- 13:41Speaker 1: of view because you're like, you're both idiots.
- 13:43Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
- 13:44Speaker 1: Like it turns out Rush has that tracking device and
- 13:48Speaker 1: planted in his chest, and then you have Young tried
- 13:52Speaker 1: to kill him, and then no one knows about it,
- 13:54Speaker 1: so you're not sure which side to take. And Camille,
- 13:56Speaker 1: like you said, as a porn in this because she
- 13:57Speaker 1: didn't know all of the information. So just as a viewer,
- 14:01Speaker 1: it can be frustrating. And I think that's when my
- 14:03Speaker 1: original frustrations came my first watch. This time around, I
- 14:08Speaker 1: can just look past it and then Yeah, for me,
- 14:11Speaker 1: this time, I'm on more on the civilian side, because
- 14:14Speaker 1: I think moving forward, that's the way it should be.
- 14:18Speaker 1: It shouldn't just be this military dictatorship. I mean, imagine
- 14:23Speaker 1: what it's like for those people in their rooms just
- 14:26Speaker 1: being told to go to your room. And you have
- 14:28Speaker 1: some rations and you can't do anything, you have no freedom.
- 14:31Speaker 2: That would be Yeah.
- 14:33Speaker 3: I think that's something that you know, spoiler alert, I
- 14:36Speaker 3: have seen next week's episode, so you know there's a
- 14:39Speaker 3: little more context to that. But yeah, I feel like
- 14:42Speaker 3: there is an element of people want to contribute. They
- 14:47Speaker 3: just they want to feel like they're involved, and like, yeah,
- 14:51Speaker 3: you're on an ancient ship hurdling through a distant galaxy
- 14:55Speaker 3: with you know, all this amazing tech and all passing
- 14:59Speaker 3: through all the amazing spatial anomali is. It's like it
- 15:02Speaker 3: should be exciting. Yes, it sucks when you're on water
- 15:04Speaker 3: rations and food rations and stuff like that, but I
- 15:07Speaker 3: feel like there's less of an urgency or interest in
- 15:12Speaker 3: exploring destiny than there was compared to say, Atlantis Atlantis.
- 15:18Speaker 3: It was there was the excitement, there was the oh
- 15:20Speaker 3: my god, and it's like, yes, I know, there's the
- 15:22Speaker 3: recurring thing of them saying, well, these people aren't supposed
- 15:25Speaker 3: to be here, but still they were still originally yeah,
- 15:30Speaker 3: they were. They were part of the SGC program on Icarus.
- 15:34Speaker 3: Clearly they have an interest and they're good at what
- 15:36Speaker 3: they do, just because they weren't meant to be on
- 15:38Speaker 3: this mission and they're missing their their homes and their families.
- 15:41Speaker 3: It's like, well maybe and maybe that's just my own
- 15:44Speaker 3: mental unhealth is you know. It's like, well, yeah, if
- 15:46Speaker 3: you're missing your family and your loved ones, well wouldn't
- 15:49Speaker 3: you just throw yourself into Oh my god, I get
- 15:52Speaker 3: to explore this you know, thousands and thousands and thousands
- 15:55Speaker 3: of year old ship and see what you know, what's
- 15:59Speaker 3: possible and what's available to us.
- 16:02Speaker 1: Definitely, I am just going back to Chloe's dream again.
- 16:08Speaker 1: And then we mentioned they mentioned that Rush says, same dream,
- 16:13Speaker 1: and Chloe says, yeah, Russia is like me too, what
- 16:16Speaker 1: did they do to us? And they don't remember, but
- 16:19Speaker 1: it's interesting that they share something now and then she
- 16:23Speaker 1: kind of betrays Eli because of this connection. I'm kissing. Yeah,
- 16:29Speaker 1: what was your thoughts on that, Mitch?
- 16:30Speaker 2: Yeah, it was funny to see her sort of, you know,
- 16:32Speaker 2: bounce around like that, you know when this starts, like
- 16:35Speaker 2: they've obviously already established that between episodes and then being
- 16:40Speaker 2: vaguely aware of there's you know, something going on. But
- 16:43Speaker 2: then when she got back into that room and saw
- 16:45Speaker 2: how far that Rush was willing to take it, and
- 16:47Speaker 2: and you know then in those moments, she wasn't okay
- 16:49Speaker 2: with what was going on. So she's I mean, we
- 16:51Speaker 2: talk about pawns and and she's being used as a
- 16:54Speaker 2: sort of emotional pawn, like you know, she's got connections
- 16:56Speaker 2: with Scott.
- 16:57Speaker 3: And Scattered doesn't know, and with TJ.
- 17:01Speaker 2: But then also with you know, there's some friction there
- 17:03Speaker 2: with Camille, and so there's a lot of different you know,
- 17:06Speaker 2: like we joke about her and in the show they
- 17:08Speaker 2: talk about her being like pound for pound, I'd say
- 17:11Speaker 2: this is a nice possible way, but the most like
- 17:13Speaker 2: useless person on the ship because she's not there because
- 17:16Speaker 2: of a speciality like everybody else is, and yet emotionally
- 17:20Speaker 2: she's one of the one of the most important people
- 17:23Speaker 2: in how people want to manipulate that and you know,
- 17:26Speaker 2: like Camille's got aspirations so can use and abuse that
- 17:30Speaker 2: in whatever way she wants. And Rush is clearly doing
- 17:33Speaker 2: the same thing to everybody anyway, but certainly with her.
- 17:36Speaker 2: But yeah, if you were to just sort of if
- 17:39Speaker 2: you were to take me out of this show for
- 17:40Speaker 2: two episodes and then drop me into this one, and
- 17:45Speaker 2: I see Chloe and Rush having this sort of really
- 17:49Speaker 2: personal connection I'd be like, how the long has this
- 17:52Speaker 2: been building up? And it's kind of in a way
- 17:54Speaker 2: between episodes, Like so it's it's a very weird dynamic
- 17:58Speaker 2: to see just them to share a scene and know
- 18:01Speaker 2: that they've bonded so much between episodes and try and
- 18:04Speaker 2: and try and understand that, then try and understand not
- 18:07Speaker 2: Russia's motives, because he's been doing it the entire run,
- 18:09Speaker 2: but Chloe in so easily being able to like go
- 18:12Speaker 2: above Eli and go and sleep with Scott, but then
- 18:15Speaker 2: also know that she's a part of this thing that
- 18:18Speaker 2: is completely against him and his people.
- 18:19Speaker 3: So yeah, this episode was also would have been the original,
- 18:25Speaker 3: like coming back from the mid season break, this would
- 18:27Speaker 3: have been the first episode back, So I feel like
- 18:30Speaker 3: if it had been, it might have sold that that
- 18:33Speaker 3: connection between yeah, rush happening off screen during during the hiatus.
- 18:38Speaker 3: But yeah, it is weird to sort of see it
- 18:40Speaker 3: just sort of come back a week later and they,
- 18:42Speaker 3: you know, have this bond. It's interesting. At least, you know,
- 18:45Speaker 3: it gives Chloe something to do finally.
- 18:47Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, So it's just been a bloody, silly duffer,
- 18:52Speaker 1: like she always is, bloody old Chloe, you.
- 18:56Speaker 3: Know, Chloe Chloee.
- 19:04Speaker 2: There is at least one note every time we play
- 19:06Speaker 2: that where I'm like, wait, is it Brendan? Is it Brendon?
- 19:09Speaker 2: Like yeah, right, And it's never the same note. It
- 19:13Speaker 2: changes every single week.
- 19:16Speaker 1: Glowey glowey, and you know me, like with the.
- 19:20Speaker 2: With the cast members in this show, there's only been
- 19:22Speaker 2: like two or three of them. I've dropped in a
- 19:24Speaker 2: few twenty four references. This one almost had one because
- 19:30Speaker 2: they're you can that's one me. That's fine. Off to
- 19:32Speaker 2: try and find one for twenty four, that'd be great.
- 19:34Speaker 2: But at one stage and Chloe's like interfering in the plans,
- 19:43Speaker 2: like she's she's very much on one side, and then
- 19:45Speaker 2: she's like no, no, we're going too blah blah blah, whatever's
- 19:47Speaker 2: going on. Someone just goes damn it, like off the
- 19:49Speaker 2: back of something that she's like she's basically talked them
- 19:52Speaker 2: into it. And I was waiting for him to say
- 19:54Speaker 2: damn it, Chloe, because Jack Bow's character in like the
- 19:57Speaker 2: second half of twenty four, he's like main like assistants
- 20:01Speaker 2: name was Chloe, and one of his favorite things to
- 20:03Speaker 2: say was damn it. But whenever she would like take
- 20:05Speaker 2: the moral hard ground, he's always like and so I
- 20:08Speaker 2: was just like really waiting for someone to say that
- 20:10Speaker 2: in this show, just which would have ticked a beautiful
- 20:13Speaker 2: box for me. But oh well, I'll.
- 20:16Speaker 3: Have to get you the the audio grabs from Cougartown
- 20:19Speaker 3: where they they make fun of twenty four and they
- 20:22Speaker 3: just yeah, everyone just starts every said it was demity
- 20:26Speaker 3: whatever they have to say, yeah, and you got a
- 20:29Speaker 3: I'm thinking we should also maybe like even like maybe
- 20:31Speaker 3: we should put a call out to Ball and see
- 20:33Speaker 3: if we can get him to like do do a
- 20:34Speaker 3: cover of that Chloe salt. That could be interesting.
- 20:38Speaker 5: See h Gloey Chloe. The sillid duffer Duffer does sound
- 20:46Speaker 5: so much better in gold Talk. That's fantastic.
- 20:50Speaker 2: The Flans just add something I thought the Australian version of.
- 20:55Speaker 3: Maes it sound like a fast skate with or Battlestar Galactica.
- 20:58Speaker 3: With their like made up swear words that they makes
- 21:00Speaker 3: it sound more like an alien word yeah instead of
- 21:03Speaker 3: something your grandmother normally says.
- 21:05Speaker 2: It actually makes it. It makes it sound like Jafar
- 21:08Speaker 2: like it. I feel like Daffa has now got like
- 21:10Speaker 2: a little bit of an apostrophe at the end.
- 21:11Speaker 1: So I liked that. I was watching Leave the Weapon
- 21:16Speaker 1: the other day and then there's oh yeah, the South
- 21:19Speaker 1: African Villains, and then they show a picture of Danny
- 21:22Speaker 1: Glover and he's like, mom, he's a gifer, Like holy shit,
- 21:30Speaker 1: eighties or a wild time?
- 21:34Speaker 3: Wasn't there Isn't there a clip? Go and it's it's
- 21:37Speaker 3: Adam west Batman saying like the N word or something
- 21:42Speaker 3: like racial where he's calling like an Asian person yellow.
- 21:46Speaker 1: But not google that my work computer.
- 21:50Speaker 3: I will, you know, I will.
- 21:53Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's far from the most heinous thing you've
- 21:55Speaker 2: googled today.
- 21:56Speaker 1: Yeah. There was a point there where Colonel Young almost
- 22:01Speaker 1: lost the ship and I was just wondering, like, well,
- 22:05Speaker 1: he almost died. And then he's like, Eli, don't let
- 22:07Speaker 1: him do it. Don't let him take control of the ship. Hmm.
- 22:12Speaker 1: I'm just like why at this point, because I think
- 22:17Speaker 1: TJ's explanation was, well, you know, this means war because
- 22:21Speaker 1: he's a colonel, and so won't me because he's a
- 22:27Speaker 1: colonel and this means war, So he's going to really
- 22:30Speaker 1: mess with you because you've done this. But I felt
- 22:34Speaker 1: like he should be guilty enough to go, yeah, well
- 22:39Speaker 1: I don't know, let them have it almost at this point,
- 22:42Speaker 1: and then we deal with we pick up the pieces
- 22:44Speaker 1: moving forward.
- 22:46Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean you and I I mean you
- 22:48Speaker 2: less so because your kids are a bit older. I
- 22:50Speaker 2: feel like I deal with that a good couple of
- 22:52Speaker 2: times a week where you got the kids fighting over it,
- 22:54Speaker 2: something very breakable, and you're like, even though I know
- 22:58Speaker 2: that that person's doing the wrong thing, either you both
- 23:01Speaker 2: have half of it and it's unusable, or you let
- 23:04Speaker 2: them have it and we sought out the mess later.
- 23:07Speaker 2: Like it was. It was. It felt like that I
- 23:08Speaker 2: was watching children fight over a toy. Now I get there,
- 23:11Speaker 2: fighting over the thing that's keeping them alive. But at
- 23:14Speaker 2: the same time, like, yeah, that's why you should maybe
- 23:16Speaker 2: like no good, I'd rather die knowing he didn't get
- 23:19Speaker 2: it then hand it over temporarily, you.
- 23:21Speaker 1: Know, Like, what is it, King Solomon? Yeah, cut the
- 23:26Speaker 1: bicycle in half that.
- 23:31Speaker 3: I got, I got, I got two for you. Here
- 23:34Speaker 3: we go for you a long time and I paid
- 23:36Speaker 3: less than Robin.
- 23:37Speaker 1: Same job, same employer, means equal pay for men and women.
- 23:41Speaker 3: No time for.
- 23:42Speaker 4: Jokes, girl, Oh jesus, yeah.
- 23:56Speaker 3: Yeah, shifty eyed, shot eyed app is what they just said.
- 24:07Speaker 1: Batmanman.
- 24:11Speaker 3: No, No, that's that's probably for the best, probably for
- 24:13Speaker 3: the Probably something I noticed in this episode that I
- 24:18Speaker 3: have zero memory of because it is kind of a
- 24:20Speaker 3: throwaway line, is they insinuate that Rush kept like a
- 24:28Speaker 3: secret stone like when he went and got the ancient
- 24:32Speaker 3: stones in the first episode when when Young was unconscious
- 24:36Speaker 3: and and dialed dialed back to Earth and then he's
- 24:39Speaker 3: been keeping one secret. But that doesn't make sense, Like,
- 24:48Speaker 3: you mean, you need the plate to put it on,
- 24:51Speaker 3: So what what you still have to go to like
- 24:53Speaker 3: the plate room or whatever to put your stone on
- 24:56Speaker 3: the plate. So what what benefit would Rush have in
- 25:02Speaker 3: having his own stone, unless, like I feel like they
- 25:05Speaker 3: would need to establish that, like maybe like the stones
- 25:10Speaker 3: and the plate are kept in separate rooms except for
- 25:12Speaker 3: official businesses and all that kind of stuff. So then
- 25:15Speaker 3: Russia's like sneaking into the plate room in the middle
- 25:17Speaker 3: of the night and turning on the stone. I think,
- 25:21Speaker 3: wouldn't that also be.
- 25:22Speaker 1: Like I'm just trying to to s g one when
- 25:26Speaker 1: Daniel and Baala do it the first time, because they
- 25:30Speaker 1: I think you might need the platform to initialize the stone.
- 25:34Speaker 3: Well, no, no, because these these new that's the new
- 25:37Speaker 3: Earth versions wipe the stones every time, because the whole
- 25:40Speaker 3: thing we Citizen Joe is the stones are connected, and
- 25:43Speaker 3: that's why O'Neill and Joe were like seeing flashes of
- 25:47Speaker 3: each other. But when they establish these the earth made
- 25:51Speaker 3: plate for the stones, because the stones are still ancient,
- 25:54Speaker 3: but we've made our own plate, there's a line that
- 25:57Speaker 3: says it wipes the stone every time, so you can
- 26:00Speaker 3: that multi people can use it. But the other thing
- 26:02Speaker 3: is also if Russia is using the stone, then that
- 26:06Speaker 3: means someone else is in Russia's body wandering around Destiny
- 26:11Speaker 3: that he wouldn't be able to communicate with. So I
- 26:15Speaker 3: understand them writing it in as a way to be like, well,
- 26:17Speaker 3: how how were the you know, Eifel sixty five guys
- 26:22Speaker 3: tracking us and all that kind of stuff, But.
- 26:25Speaker 1: Well, I think it was Yeah, I think originally the
- 26:28Speaker 1: idea for the for the at least this SGU episode,
- 26:33Speaker 1: is that that's why Young went onto the alien ship
- 26:36Speaker 1: and swap bodies with the alien because Russ had that
- 26:39Speaker 1: stone with him. But yeah, you're right in that, I
- 26:42Speaker 1: don't know. It's tricky because how did they swap How
- 26:45Speaker 1: did Daniel and Varla swap with the people in the
- 26:48Speaker 1: in the other galaxy, did they have one of that?
- 26:52Speaker 3: They had they had touched the stone and Daniel and
- 26:56Speaker 3: Varla put the stones into the ancient store.
- 27:00Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think it's basically that a bluetooth acts. Yeah,
- 27:05Speaker 1: because he's because the alien grabbed from what I understand
- 27:09Speaker 1: is what they do. They put the stone on the
- 27:11Speaker 1: plate and then they use a cloth to take the
- 27:13Speaker 1: stone away. So they don't, like meaning the technician imprint
- 27:18Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, they don't imprint on it, and they
- 27:19Speaker 1: just use a cloth, so not cloth some owe, but
- 27:22Speaker 1: just the material cloth. And I think in my head
- 27:26Speaker 1: that that's wiping the stone literally, but I don't it's
- 27:30Speaker 1: probably not. But then I imagine Rush had that in
- 27:33Speaker 1: his pocket. The alien guys got it, and then when
- 27:37Speaker 1: Young connects his, it's connected to the closest stone.
- 27:43Speaker 3: Because maybe the I get all that, I get all that,
- 27:46Speaker 3: I get that, I get the logistics of it, but
- 27:48Speaker 3: I but what benefit. Like obviously Young could have been
- 27:52Speaker 3: wrong in his theory because Rush doesn't give him a
- 27:57Speaker 3: really a yes or no answer, But it's like, what
- 28:01Speaker 3: benefit would Rush have to have kept a stone for
- 28:05Speaker 3: himself since the pilot like it, does it doesn't make
- 28:09Speaker 3: any secause Young even says a line about, oh, you've
- 28:12Speaker 3: been hiding it in your quarters, but after the whole
- 28:14Speaker 3: gun thing, you couldn't do that either, so you had
- 28:15Speaker 3: to keep it on your person.
- 28:18Speaker 1: So he can just report back to Earth without needing commission.
- 28:24Speaker 3: But like I said, surely, surely the once Young's in command,
- 28:28Speaker 3: surely you can't just walk into the room where the
- 28:32Speaker 3: plate is and chuck your stone on the plate and
- 28:35Speaker 3: whenever you want. But also then also there's someone that
- 28:41Speaker 3: is official as part of the SGC that has to
- 28:46Speaker 3: take over Rush's body, and we'll be walking around Destiny,
- 28:49Speaker 3: and when they get back, I'm sure they would give
- 28:50Speaker 3: their report, at which point the SGC would know and
- 28:54Speaker 3: would advise Young. So I don't think Rush could have
- 28:59Speaker 3: had a secret stone that he was using.
- 29:02Speaker 5: I don't.
- 29:03Speaker 3: Or he just stole it when he did get the
- 29:09Speaker 3: when he got the stones in the pilot as a
- 29:12Speaker 3: just in case, and hasn't actually.
- 29:14Speaker 2: Used it yet.
- 29:15Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it's like. It's like, maybe buy that
- 29:18Speaker 1: there's one old phone that takes twenty cent piece, and
- 29:21Speaker 1: there's only four twenty cent pieces, so he's taken one. Yeah,
- 29:25Speaker 1: I don't yeah, I don't know.
- 29:27Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's how I took it.
- 29:28Speaker 1: Insurance policy.
- 29:30Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's how I took it was
- 29:32Speaker 2: that it was it was his ultimate sort of backup plan.
- 29:35Speaker 2: And and you know, they've been into some shit before
- 29:38Speaker 2: where either it's gone past that and it's not useful
- 29:41Speaker 2: or needing to use it. It's like, no, no, I'm going
- 29:44Speaker 2: to use the ones when they know that I'm using it.
- 29:46Speaker 2: And then maybe when he felt like he was close
- 29:48Speaker 2: enough to his endgame or whatever, that he would go
- 29:52Speaker 2: and do the normal route, go back to Earth and
- 29:55Speaker 2: check in with the people back at the Pentagon or
- 29:57Speaker 2: family or whatever. But then that's where he would start,
- 30:01Speaker 2: you know, reconnecting or establishing someone that he could trust,
- 30:04Speaker 2: and you know, when the time comes this and and
- 30:08Speaker 2: only then would he actually use it. But then, you know,
- 30:11Speaker 2: the silly bugger went and got himself nearly murdered and
- 30:14Speaker 2: then abducted by aliens and they up started using it,
- 30:16Speaker 2: and then he's found out. But yeah, I think that's how.
- 30:19Speaker 2: I don't know, like I kind of like, you know,
- 30:21Speaker 2: maybe I seventy thirty that moment when they're like, oh,
- 30:23Speaker 2: you had one of the stones I'm like, hang on, wait,
- 30:25Speaker 2: wait when did one game missing?
- 30:26Speaker 1: What?
- 30:26Speaker 2: We've only had one for the last you know, couple
- 30:29Speaker 2: of you know, days or week's worth of the of
- 30:33Speaker 2: the of the storyline. But no, we've had two and
- 30:35Speaker 2: he's had a secret third one. So yeah, yeah, he's
- 30:39Speaker 2: been the first.
- 30:39Speaker 1: I think there's four in total. I think maybe maybe
- 30:43Speaker 1: there is only three. I can't remember. Do you remember
- 30:46Speaker 1: if how many stones are on the Destiny Destiny?
- 30:52Speaker 3: I think four. I think we do a shot of
- 30:54Speaker 3: I think you see a shot of it like in
- 30:56Speaker 3: in Air when they like open up the cakes. Yeah,
- 30:59Speaker 3: and I think as four stones. Actually, that might be
- 31:02Speaker 3: worth going back and having a look and seeing if
- 31:04Speaker 3: like there was like three stones and one like empty slot.
- 31:12Speaker 3: I think to see if that puts any validity to
- 31:15Speaker 3: Young's idea, because obviously we're in the sending like two
- 31:18Speaker 3: people at a time like this whole time. The maximum
- 31:21Speaker 3: number of people that have been on the stones at
- 31:23Speaker 3: once is two.
- 31:25Speaker 2: Can I just say one thing that I've been meaning
- 31:26Speaker 2: to say about TJ for a couple of weeks, and
- 31:29Speaker 2: it's kind of an evergreen sort of you know comment,
- 31:31Speaker 2: So it hasn't really been missing from the last couple
- 31:33Speaker 2: of episodes, can I just say, like, for all this
- 31:36Speaker 2: time they've been stuck on the ship, the fact that
- 31:38Speaker 2: she still must spend so much time doing her hair
- 31:42Speaker 2: is to be commended. You know, she's she's not like
- 31:45Speaker 2: a woman holidays or it's the weekend or hate. All
- 31:48Speaker 2: these people are all roommates, Like we've all seen each
- 31:50Speaker 2: other at our worst. Like how I don't know, man,
- 31:53Speaker 2: Like I've got a five year old who's never had
- 31:55Speaker 2: a haircut. She's had beautiful, long, straight hair. If it's
- 31:59Speaker 2: any more than like a ponytail, half ponytail, even a
- 32:03Speaker 2: basic plat, I'm out. That's where my wife comes in.
- 32:05Speaker 2: I don't deal with any of that sort of shit.
- 32:07Speaker 2: I look at the back of TJ's hair and I'm like,
- 32:10Speaker 2: how how many hands did you have to have to
- 32:13Speaker 2: help you do that? And how much time are you
- 32:16Speaker 2: taking to do that? And who for? At this point,
- 32:19Speaker 2: like she gets around, she's a confident woman, she's got friends,
- 32:22Speaker 2: she doesn't really have to like establish herself on a
- 32:24Speaker 2: personal or professional level. But everyone else is sort of
- 32:26Speaker 2: like like I looked at Eli and there's one shot
- 32:29Speaker 2: where I think it was Chloe that walked away maybe
- 32:31Speaker 2: after he just sort of transferred over to the other
- 32:33Speaker 2: side of the doors and he's having to go with
- 32:37Speaker 2: Chloe about her stance, and then she walked away from him,
- 32:39Speaker 2: and then it was just like a wide shot and
- 32:42Speaker 2: you could see Eli head to toe and you know,
- 32:46Speaker 2: he's just sort of sitting there and he shoulders a forward,
- 32:49Speaker 2: he's postures down, and you know he's got this same
- 32:51Speaker 2: jacket over, the same shirt, over the same baggy pants
- 32:54Speaker 2: and these big, like fat skate shoes and stuff. And
- 32:56Speaker 2: it's just like, yeah, man, like you're just like that's you, right,
- 33:00Speaker 2: You're You're cool. You don't need to like try and like, oh,
- 33:02Speaker 2: you've been here, you have other people you impressed. I
- 33:04Speaker 2: don't know, there's something about teacher. I'm just looking at
- 33:05Speaker 2: going you always look immaculate. You look as immaculate as
- 33:09Speaker 2: what I'm sure you did on the Icarus base before
- 33:12Speaker 2: any of this shit happened. But that was because you
- 33:13Speaker 2: were going to work and there were important people coming along.
- 33:16Speaker 2: Now you don't have to do that. You don't have
- 33:18Speaker 2: to do that.
- 33:19Speaker 3: Well, I reckon, she I reckon she does, because I
- 33:22Speaker 3: reckon that's young being like, well, even though we're stuck
- 33:25Speaker 3: on the other side of the universe, and she's he's
- 33:33Speaker 3: probably still making them all meat military uniform code and
- 33:36Speaker 3: military uniform code.
- 33:38Speaker 2: It's funny.
- 33:38Speaker 3: Elena Huffman even talks about it in one of the
- 33:40Speaker 3: audio commentaries where she says, yeah, the hair is not
- 33:44Speaker 3: allowed to touch the collar, right, her hair is always up.
- 33:47Speaker 3: She's that's why that's why Carter's hair was always short,
- 33:50Speaker 3: because that's that's that meets military protocol, or at least
- 33:54Speaker 3: their force. I guess in terms of not touching the collar.
- 33:57Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough if it's the standard they're trying to keep,
- 33:59Speaker 2: because it's like, we could be here forever, but you know,
- 34:02Speaker 2: if we don't hold ourselves to our standard, then you know.
- 34:05Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that's that was Camille's line at
- 34:07Speaker 2: the start of this, and you know, we're talking to
- 34:09Speaker 2: her motives before and her sudden jump to where she
- 34:12Speaker 2: was like her saying the line every military in the
- 34:16Speaker 2: world is ruled controlled by a civilian government. I'm like, yeah,
- 34:21Speaker 2: great point, but I think you're making it maybe the
- 34:25Speaker 2: wrong way, or maybe maybe the wrong way too quickly
- 34:27Speaker 2: or the right way too quickly or something. But yeah,
- 34:30Speaker 2: I mean, it's so fair enough. Maybe maybe maybe she's
- 34:31Speaker 2: got such long hair it has to be up and
- 34:33Speaker 2: so detailed and tired and stuff. And you know, I'm
- 34:36Speaker 2: looking over it at old make Gria. It's like he
- 34:39Speaker 2: doesn't have to do shit. You know, Scott doesn't have
- 34:42Speaker 2: to do anything, and he.
- 34:44Speaker 3: Doesn't even shower before getting like balls deep in Chloe.
- 34:47Speaker 1: So it still hasn't.
- 34:48Speaker 3: No, Yeah, it still hasn't.
- 34:51Speaker 2: Yep.
- 34:52Speaker 3: Yeah, we've never seen a shot of Scott in the
- 34:56Speaker 3: steam showers. We've only seen what Chloe and tragedy.
- 35:01Speaker 2: Well, i mean Chloe needed another one after that dream,
- 35:04Speaker 2: and she is very seat. I mean, how much of
- 35:05Speaker 2: that was dream sweat? Was that like you know, leftover.
- 35:09Speaker 3: Friend that was? That wasn't sweat?
- 35:11Speaker 2: That was right. See I'm such I'm so naive. I'm
- 35:15Speaker 2: so naive. But she definitely needed a shower.
- 35:18Speaker 3: Yeah she was. She was air drawing.
- 35:20Speaker 1: That was alien tank juice. A love to get some
- 35:28Speaker 1: of those clips.
- 35:30Speaker 2: Yeah, he shout out to me.
- 35:32Speaker 3: Nah, just the day of recording, she's she just unboxed
- 35:35Speaker 3: on TikTok today her she's working.
- 35:38Speaker 2: On for threes a cookbook.
- 35:42Speaker 3: Yeah, it's called God. Now I'm going to stuff it up,
- 35:48Speaker 3: say it have you Eaten? And it's called have you eaten?
- 35:50Speaker 3: Which is funny for Camille eaten. Have you eaten yet? Family?
- 35:56Speaker 3: The recipes from a restaurant door. Actually that's actually you
- 36:08Speaker 3: know what, this can be in the podcast and not.
- 36:11Speaker 3: We can definitely put this up on socials. You get
- 36:14Speaker 3: so easily photo photoshop that to put Sharon in it.
- 36:17Speaker 3: Have you eaten Sharon yet? I mean, come.
- 36:22Speaker 2: On, Brendan can do that?
- 36:26Speaker 3: Me?
- 36:26Speaker 2: Sleep?
- 36:27Speaker 3: God, Oh my god. And she's got she's got a
- 36:30Speaker 3: bowl of food and she's holding onto some kind of
- 36:32Speaker 3: meat flap with chopsticks.
- 36:34Speaker 2: I don't say flap. Jesus Christ prepared for that.
- 36:39Speaker 3: Look what what? What else? What else do you call that, Mitchell?
- 36:43Speaker 3: Other than a flap of meat?
- 36:45Speaker 2: Nor Jesus Christ. That's confronting love, isn't it?
- 36:51Speaker 3: Love?
- 36:52Speaker 2: Well, I mean wants to come on the show to
- 36:55Speaker 2: promote a cookbook.
- 36:55Speaker 3: Obviously she's had some amazing airbrushing. I'm on on a cover.
- 37:01Speaker 1: Photo, but of it. I don't know if you heard
- 37:05Speaker 1: me before. I'm just was asking is there a noodle
- 37:07Speaker 1: box recipe?
- 37:11Speaker 3: No? Camille doesn't like noodles, she just likes the box.
- 37:15Speaker 1: Hey, fair enough, Hey, don't we all don't mind a
- 37:20Speaker 1: bit of a ramen noodle, the old two minute noodles.
- 37:23Speaker 1: Magie people, if they want to sponsor the show. What
- 37:27Speaker 1: else you got, Maddie.
- 37:28Speaker 3: Oh, I ran out of stuff ages ago. I had
- 37:31Speaker 3: like three notes with this episode, and I believe my
- 37:34Speaker 3: last note was kind of mid.
- 37:35Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't mind it. I didn't mind it. It
- 37:38Speaker 1: was just like I said last week, I would just
- 37:41Speaker 1: prefer a little bit more technological chat about the stargate,
- 37:45Speaker 1: about the ancients, about destiny. But you know, I guess
- 37:49Speaker 1: the cool thing was the shuttle came off and shot
- 37:51Speaker 1: the ship and that was about it for three seconds
- 37:54Speaker 1: worth of action. And then I mean they were never
- 37:57Speaker 1: going to shoot each other. They were never going to
- 37:59Speaker 1: kill one another. It was just kind of posturing.
- 38:03Speaker 3: Yeah, And there was there was no way they were
- 38:05Speaker 3: ever gonna live this way like there was there was
- 38:08Speaker 3: no way the civilians were going to let the military
- 38:12Speaker 3: like starve, and then there was no way that the
- 38:15Speaker 3: military was going to like shut down their life support
- 38:18Speaker 3: and kill everybody. So it's like, yeah, I don't.
- 38:21Speaker 2: Know from to do it a little bit just to
- 38:23Speaker 2: make them pass out. I'm like that they'll definitely do it.
- 38:26Speaker 2: Come on, But without that, I mean, Young doesn't get
- 38:29Speaker 2: to Aura Farmers. The kids say where like you know,
- 38:33Speaker 2: Rush is in there screaming about what's going on, and
- 38:36Speaker 2: then Young just walks and he's like, yeah, whatever's going on,
- 38:39Speaker 2: it ends now. It's like, how did you get here?
- 38:42Speaker 2: It's like, well, dude, you have no idea the trouble
- 38:43Speaker 2: they went to to get into this room. And then
- 38:46Speaker 2: we cut to the other room and all the military
- 38:48Speaker 2: person will come in with guns blazing, telling her to
- 38:51Speaker 2: put their ship down. And I think in that moment,
- 38:54Speaker 2: I agree, Like I never thought that Young there's no way,
- 38:57Speaker 2: shape or form he was ever going to even shoot Rush,
- 38:59Speaker 2: let alone kill him even you know, like you know,
- 39:01Speaker 2: you snap him in the knee or something like that.
- 39:03Speaker 2: He's never gonna do it, but there was a chance there.
- 39:05Speaker 2: I'm like, one of these military guys, mine is it Vulcan, Vulca,
- 39:09Speaker 2: l Volca whatever his name is, Old Zoltan, the the
- 39:13Speaker 2: other other guy that was in that room, and I'm like,
- 39:15Speaker 2: shoot him. He's expendable. I think give about that guy,
- 39:18Speaker 2: Like shoot him to prove a point, even if it
- 39:20Speaker 2: changes the narrative. But you're not.
- 39:21Speaker 1: Gonna shoot and he's like, shut up.
- 39:24Speaker 2: Yeah, like put your guns down, You're not going to
- 39:25Speaker 2: shoot each other, but if you want to shoot that guy.
- 39:29Speaker 2: M Yeah.
- 39:30Speaker 3: I feel like maybe it was just it was an
- 39:33Speaker 3: overstep for the civilians. Maybe civilians were just so desperate
- 39:36Speaker 3: to be like I said before, like there was just
- 39:38Speaker 3: like we just want to be included. We just want
- 39:40Speaker 3: to feel like we're a part of this and not
- 39:41Speaker 3: being like sent to our rooms and just lying there,
- 39:45Speaker 3: you know, contemplating their existence for the rest of this country,
- 39:48Speaker 3: Like we want to be in So maybe it's just
- 39:50Speaker 3: their way of saying, of proving to the military that
- 39:52Speaker 3: it's like, hey, we have skills. We just shut you
- 39:55Speaker 3: guys out. We just completely isolated the military. And I
- 40:00Speaker 3: feel like it was almost a way to be like, hey,
- 40:02Speaker 3: you need to respect us. We are human beings too. Yes,
- 40:04Speaker 3: we're not the military, and you guys are used to
- 40:06Speaker 3: your training command and all that bullshit, and we don't
- 40:09Speaker 3: fit into that, but we're here. And I guess they
- 40:14Speaker 3: almost outnumbered them in a way too, so they're just like, well,
- 40:16Speaker 3: you know, yeah, put us to use you know what
- 40:19Speaker 3: I mean, we want to say in I think even
- 40:22Speaker 3: doesn't Oh no, I think it might be next week
- 40:24Speaker 3: where Camillasa is. You know, it's talking about like self
- 40:26Speaker 3: determination and stuff like that, like people being being allowed
- 40:29Speaker 3: to make choices about their own lives.
- 40:33Speaker 1: Yeah. I felt I feel like like they didn't even
- 40:39Speaker 1: try to talk talk about it, Like, if they did,
- 40:43Speaker 1: we miss the conversation. It was off screen.
- 40:46Speaker 3: Do you know what they needed? They needed the world's
- 40:50Speaker 3: greatest negotiator on the stones and then just sit down
- 40:56Speaker 3: Rush and sit down Young and just be like, Okay, guys,
- 40:59Speaker 3: we're going to talk this through and we're going to
- 41:01Speaker 3: come to it. But she's off floating, frozen in space.
- 41:06Speaker 1: So that's a shame.
- 41:09Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a shame.
- 41:14Speaker 2: Instead her cameo on this show is they all of
- 41:16Speaker 2: a sudden just hit something.
- 41:19Speaker 3: Aunt point.
- 41:20Speaker 1: What was that?
- 41:25Speaker 2: You see?
- 41:27Speaker 3: You see the big, the big giant screen in the
- 41:29Speaker 3: observation room as a giant windscreen. Wipe up there, you guys.
- 41:33Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So actually the only thing that annoyed mean,
- 41:37Speaker 1: if we're talking about tech stuff, is that they dropped
- 41:40Speaker 1: out of FTL twice. But then the ship didn't dial
- 41:44Speaker 1: a stargate.
- 41:47Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I didn't catch that.
- 41:50Speaker 1: Why are we jumping? Jumping out of FTL. Just yeah,
- 41:55Speaker 1: the gate didn't.
- 41:55Speaker 2: Die because the ship knew that they needed to so
- 41:58Speaker 2: that they could get out and walk on. Yeah city,
- 42:02Speaker 2: no stuff, man, no stuff. He knew there was a mutiny.
- 42:06Speaker 1: Look, you got a bloody you got a bolt on here,
- 42:09Speaker 1: we need to shut that off. Shoot off the barnacles,
- 42:12Speaker 1: and you guys need to just sort some ship out.
- 42:15Speaker 1: And I'm going to sit here and wait till you
- 42:16Speaker 1: organize yourself and we get shot out and nearly die,
- 42:19Speaker 1: and then I'll jump into FTL.
- 42:21Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 42:22Speaker 1: Oh. The only other thing that was kind of interesting
- 42:24Speaker 1: was the surgeon Surgeon lady, but then she disappeared pretty quick,
- 42:29Speaker 1: SAMs Maddie.
- 42:30Speaker 2: He's gone, he's done. I think it was that weird hate.
- 42:35Speaker 2: You know, I said I wanted the ship to run
- 42:36Speaker 2: into her in mid space. He's like, I'm done now. Yeah,
- 42:41Speaker 2: that was funny where you know, it was a Chloe
- 42:44Speaker 2: and she's like he's on this other thing in his
- 42:46Speaker 2: chest and he's like, oh damn it, why did you
- 42:48Speaker 2: say this? And they're like we got to cut it
- 42:50Speaker 2: out and rush freaking the out that he was going
- 42:53Speaker 2: to have to go under the knife and he's like
- 42:55Speaker 2: and then teach and she's not teen for this, and
- 42:58Speaker 2: it's just like, well, bro, unfortunate man. She gotta cut
- 43:00Speaker 2: that ship out. So that's another secret you're hiding that's
- 43:03Speaker 2: come back to bite you in the arts.
- 43:04Speaker 1: And then it felt like they had no alcohol. They
- 43:08Speaker 1: were just dipping in an old kino, like a two
- 43:11Speaker 1: million old keino into his chest and you're like, what
- 43:14Speaker 1: are you doing? Did that that thing reminded you?
- 43:18Speaker 3: Did you recognize that doctor? No?
- 43:22Speaker 1: Is she that was?
- 43:24Speaker 3: That was doctor Brighten. The last time we saw her
- 43:27Speaker 3: was season eight of s G one in Lockdown, the
- 43:32Speaker 3: when like the big like the plant takes over O'Neil's
- 43:35Speaker 3: like first week in control of of SGC. Yeah, and
- 43:41Speaker 3: she was like an ancient in in Arc of Truth.
- 43:44Speaker 3: But but yeah she's.
- 43:46Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, I remember from that when I was
- 43:49Speaker 1: trying to figure out the timeline for destiny. Yep, yeah,
- 43:55Speaker 1: I spotted it. Okay, I have a goof here on
- 43:58Speaker 1: the wiki, as stated, Colonel Everett Young has control of
- 44:03Speaker 1: life support. Rush notes that they have enough air for
- 44:07Speaker 1: three days, and later says that Young is still pumping
- 44:10Speaker 1: air in. However, control means that air can be pumped
- 44:13Speaker 1: both in and out. Guys so young makes no effort
- 44:18Speaker 1: to break the deadlock by threatening to pump air out
- 44:22Speaker 1: of the civilian section.
- 44:23Speaker 3: Maybe they don't know how to do that.
- 44:25Speaker 1: Yeah, well I assume Rush knows that they can't do that.
- 44:29Speaker 1: They can just go on or off.
- 44:32Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah they can't. They can't suckle blow, they can
- 44:34Speaker 3: just turn it off or yeah they can't. They can't
- 44:38Speaker 3: throw it in reverse. They can only you know, play
- 44:41Speaker 3: with the culture and the fan settings.
- 44:43Speaker 1: Yeah, the other goof. According to the wiki, it is
- 44:47Speaker 1: unlikely that Lieutenant Johansson that's TJ for the Layman wouldn't
- 44:52Speaker 1: have given the two prisoners a thorough It is likely
- 44:57Speaker 1: wouldn't have given two prisoners a thorough physical exam after
- 45:00Speaker 1: they rescue. I feel like it should would be would
- 45:04Speaker 1: have That makes sense because Rush had a surgical scar. Yeah,
- 45:10Speaker 1: you think they would have given them a bit of
- 45:11Speaker 1: a once over for sure.
- 45:13Speaker 3: When what, well.
- 45:16Speaker 1: It says here like Tamara Tamara, Russia's surgical scar after
- 45:25Speaker 1: being captured by the aliens. So I guess they're insinuating
- 45:29Speaker 1: that she should have picked it up and therefore would
- 45:31Speaker 1: have known that they have a tracker in his chest.
- 45:35Speaker 3: Right, I did, Yeah, I didn't pick up that he
- 45:38Speaker 3: had a scar.
- 45:39Speaker 1: They only just said it like random in dialogue, and
- 45:43Speaker 1: I don't know if you actually saw it, they didn't
- 45:46Speaker 1: make the same incision, or maybe they did. Maybe just anyway,
- 45:51Speaker 1: sweaty nerds getting angry on the internet, that's what we like.
- 45:55Speaker 3: Yeah, great people, I was going to say something that
- 45:59Speaker 3: I don't worry because that's what he wants. He didn't
- 46:02Speaker 3: like your AI image, so you just like to tweet
- 46:04Speaker 3: about it.
- 46:05Speaker 1: That's okay.
- 46:06Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 46:06Speaker 1: I haven't been back on Facebook since they were all
- 46:09Speaker 1: complaining about it. But I just wrote a long kind
- 46:11Speaker 1: of comment saying, look, can calm down.
- 46:14Speaker 3: Basically, I trolled a bunch of comments. I had the
- 46:18Speaker 3: best time doing it.
- 46:21Speaker 1: Yeah, it was fun, but that's okay.
- 46:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 46:24Speaker 1: Well, I didn't even notice. I just thought it was
- 46:26Speaker 1: random stripes. I didn't even know it was a sergeant thing.
- 46:29Speaker 1: I'm like, who cares. I was more annoyed about the
- 46:31Speaker 1: Star Game being Japanese symbols.
- 46:34Speaker 2: And like slightly like ovalish in a way, like it's
- 46:37Speaker 2: not perfectly round. It's like, why is this guy complaining
- 46:40Speaker 2: about it? Or the fact that there's like a computer
- 46:43Speaker 2: right next to the bottom of the gate next to
- 46:44Speaker 2: the walkways something. There's like all this other stuff of
- 46:46Speaker 2: stuff that doesn't match the show. It's like you and
- 46:48Speaker 2: your stripes.
- 46:49Speaker 1: I was like, that works with the prompt that I gave.
- 46:52Speaker 1: It was just it was amazing. I didn't even say
- 46:55Speaker 1: a colonel anything like that.
- 46:58Speaker 2: And someone runs and goes, oh, that's not rich Dean Anderson.
- 47:00Speaker 2: I'm like, no, you can, idiot. It's an AI interpretation
- 47:03Speaker 2: of it, and it looks pretty good. To shut your mouth.
- 47:07Speaker 3: We never said it was.
- 47:09Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I think it's Uncle Sam, Uncle Sam.
- 47:14Speaker 2: Yeah, that's perfect.
- 47:16Speaker 3: I I tore into one person who was like, oh,
- 47:19Speaker 3: i'd sign it, but you used AI, so I'm not
- 47:22Speaker 3: going to use it. And I'm like, well, one, we're
- 47:24Speaker 3: not trying to sell you something. If you're actually a
- 47:28Speaker 3: fan of Stargate, then I read then an A, I
- 47:32Speaker 3: mean a age would stop you from signing. And if
- 47:36Speaker 3: you and if you're not going to sign it, then
- 47:38Speaker 3: you're not really Stargate fans. So you shouldn't care that
- 47:40Speaker 3: it's AI.
- 47:41Speaker 1: So pick one after ship that you see his AI
- 47:44Speaker 1: so get me.
- 47:45Speaker 2: Started exactly and saying that I would love to use
- 47:47Speaker 2: one day, just just next time. We push it to
- 47:49Speaker 2: use that crayon or whiteboard drawing. Yes, just use that.
- 47:54Speaker 2: I would put on a shirt.
- 47:56Speaker 3: Hashtag you're happy now.
- 47:58Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll get Will to draw me a version of
- 48:01Speaker 2: it and that'll be my.
- 48:04Speaker 3: Crayon. I didn't even say in one of the comments.
- 48:07Speaker 3: I was like, we're using an AI image to try
- 48:11Speaker 3: and get writers and an entire television production hired. Yeah,
- 48:16Speaker 3: so I think I think that's okay.
- 48:19Speaker 1: Yeah, one one AI images.
- 48:22Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not. We're not trying to take Robert, Robert
- 48:25Speaker 3: Cooper or Martin Ghira's jobs. We are trying to get
- 48:28Speaker 3: them back in the writing room and an entire production.
- 48:32Speaker 1: People have such strange takes on that stuff. It's like, well,
- 48:35Speaker 1: first of all, we're not illustrators. We're not going to
- 48:38Speaker 1: pay someone to design or something and take six weeks
- 48:40Speaker 1: and come back.
- 48:41Speaker 3: Well, if you do, it's going to take three weeks.
- 48:42Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's going to cost money. I might as
- 48:45Speaker 1: well just put it for free. I mean, the critic
- 48:49Speaker 1: the critiques of the image are fair. I'll be like, yeah, okay,
- 48:51Speaker 1: I'll put it as a colonel or a general or
- 48:55Speaker 1: any any other problems with it apart from its al.
- 49:00Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy.
- 49:01Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not going anywhere. AI is here to stay.
- 49:05Speaker 1: If anything, it's going to be more moving forward.
- 49:08Speaker 3: There's ways to use it and there's ways not to
- 49:10Speaker 3: use it.
- 49:11Speaker 1: It's like it's like.
- 49:12Speaker 3: Being like, oh my, oh my god, are you using
- 49:14Speaker 3: a dishwasher in your house? You've taken a job away
- 49:16Speaker 3: from an immigrants, Like what are you talking about?
- 49:18Speaker 1: It's like, you know what I mean, Like when the
- 49:21Speaker 1: steam engine was invented, they're like, I can't believe you're
- 49:23Speaker 1: using the train. What are we going to do with
- 49:24Speaker 1: all these horses?
- 49:26Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 49:28Speaker 3: But it's also like that, I there's plenty of things
- 49:32Speaker 3: I don't like. Like Darren Hayes from Savage Garden poster
- 49:34Speaker 3: thing the other day and he's like, there's this new thing.
- 49:37Speaker 3: I forget what it's called. And it's like it's taken
- 49:40Speaker 3: his entire, you know, thirty year catalog of songs and
- 49:43Speaker 3: put it into this AI program to help the AI
- 49:47Speaker 3: learn how to write AI songs. Yeah, And I'm like, well, no,
- 49:51Speaker 3: that's because he owns those songs. That's how he makes
- 49:53Speaker 3: his living, and they've done that with his permission. That
- 49:56Speaker 3: I totally agree with. Short of short of Richard.
- 49:59Speaker 1: With his station. Did you say it without no, without him? Yeah,
- 50:03Speaker 1: you can't, that's copyright. Yeah, well, let's get into Gate
- 50:08Speaker 1: episode three hundred and twenty two. Join us next week
- 50:12Speaker 1: for season one of sgu episode thirteen, Faith, If you
- 50:18Speaker 1: want to join us, join us on the socials, Guys
- 50:21Speaker 1: and Bloody. Jump onto Twitter and the hashtags save Stargate
- 50:25Speaker 1: so we can try and get that Martin Guiro show
- 50:27Speaker 1: back and moving. Yeah, we would love for you to
- 50:31Speaker 1: do that. If you want to jump onto Patreon, Patreon,
- 50:34Speaker 1: dot com, fort Slash, get into Gate.
- 50:39Speaker 3: Talking about the hashtag and we don't want to be divided.
- 50:43Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, Faith and jump on.
- 50:47Speaker 2: Oh he's done it. He's in a pre cell.
- 50:50Speaker 3: Don't draw a line between the two of us.
- 50:53Speaker 2: Absolutely, And with the hashtag, we're recording, this is obviously
- 50:57Speaker 2: a couple of days before we're going to release it,
- 51:00Speaker 2: so I mean, anything could happen. And with the petition,
- 51:03Speaker 2: it's obviously hitting some great numbers and it'll be further
- 51:06Speaker 2: along than if we were to give those numbers right now.
- 51:08Speaker 2: But I will just say for everyone who is keeping
- 51:12Speaker 2: right up, Amazon, MGM Studios and Prime Videos, Twitter accounts, asses,
- 51:17Speaker 2: it is the greatest thing to look at any time
- 51:20Speaker 2: of the day.
- 51:20Speaker 1: So good. At least one hundred tweets in that I
- 51:24Speaker 1: don't think.
- 51:25Speaker 2: I've seen anything less than two by the time I
- 51:27Speaker 2: get on, unless I like see it within five minutes.
- 51:29Speaker 2: It is skyrocketing. And I'm like, I know the algorithms
- 51:32Speaker 2: are only showing me starget content, but I get over
- 51:35Speaker 2: scrolling down trying to look for a non Stargate related thing,
- 51:38Speaker 2: and like, I saw comments they saying, Okay, obviously by
- 51:41Speaker 2: this stage, you're just doing this to troll us. It's like, yeah,
- 51:43Speaker 2: it's great engagement. But me, man, like we're relentless. The
- 51:47Speaker 2: Stargate fans so good. I love how petty it is.
- 51:51Speaker 2: It's so great. And they asked the most ridiculous question
- 51:54Speaker 2: like oh, who's the greatest Daddy, and it's like, all right, here,
- 51:56Speaker 2: we're gonna use fourteen different dad characters.
- 51:58Speaker 1: And who is your daddy? So good?
- 52:04Speaker 2: Keep it coming apout.
- 52:07Speaker 3: I just sort of really dark, uh mean, because it
- 52:12Speaker 3: was just recently, like this week, it was Father's Day
- 52:14Speaker 3: in the Northern Hemisphere, so there was a lot of
- 52:17Speaker 3: those posts of like like what we did, you know,
- 52:20Speaker 3: the happy Father's day to that not you best dads
- 52:24Speaker 3: in you know, sci fi blah blah blah, and I
- 52:27Speaker 3: was like, we should, we should do a Stargate version
- 52:29Speaker 3: of that. But the one in the middle is Jack
- 52:31Speaker 3: and Charlie.
- 52:32Speaker 2: Oh is that too?
- 52:35Speaker 3: Is that too dark?
- 52:37Speaker 1: I mean bad example?
- 52:39Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say it need some work.
- 52:43Speaker 3: Okay, all right, fair enough, I'll take that note. This
- 52:46Speaker 3: is why I don't do social media, guys. This is
- 52:48Speaker 3: like you're the you, the guys that make all the posts.
- 52:52Speaker 1: All I usually do is just find funny ones online,
- 52:58Speaker 1: mainly on the on the Sobranos website, and just change
- 53:02Speaker 1: it to Stargate.
- 53:03Speaker 3: Mm hmmmm. I just rely on Jacob to send me
- 53:06Speaker 3: all the stuff that he does. That's way better than
- 53:09Speaker 3: anything I could think of.
- 53:10Speaker 1: Great people. All right, guys, enjoy your week. We'll see
- 53:13Speaker 1: you next week.
- 53:14Speaker 3: Get into the geek, get into the gate, Get into
- 53:20Speaker 3: gate Stargate, send me some maass bred Do my favorite one?
- 53:26Speaker 3: Do my favorite one?
- 53:26Speaker 2: Do my favorite one?
- 53:29Speaker 3: There it is