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NFL Week 14 DFS Picks December 10, 2023 | Start/Sit, DraftKings & FanDuel DFS, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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All systems going clear to the left of What's up everyone, Tyler Tamberline here
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aka TOTEG and Tambo back for another edition of the Sunday NFL Show here on
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cash games, tournaments, have it all for you ownership, going through
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some of the roster construction. I got another two v two swaparoo ready to
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bring you in? Man? What's going on? Another Sunday A good one
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ahead of us? I think it's an awesome slate, lots of ways that
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you can go. Yeah, excited for the giveaways. I mean, just
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more generosity within the community. Absolutely love to see it. And it's kind
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shows with the amount of times that people are willing to get back. So
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I love to see that. In regards to this slight, Yeah, I
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think it's a really good slate. I mean there's spend downs at quarterback,
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there spends up at quarterback, there's you know, spends at running back.
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You know, wide receiver I think is a pretty wide open position. I
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mean a lot of this slate is dictated what you do dictated by what you
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do at the wide receiver position. Have our boy Kelsey back on the main
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slate at tight end, but then a bunch of cheap options to go with
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a mid tier option. There's just a lot of different ways to go.
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I think it's a very exciting slate. I'm looking forward to it, and
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you know, looking forward to to talking through with you guys and finding our
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It's gonna be a good one. Man. What's happening? How you doing?
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They all have their own strategies and stuff, but you're playing the same game.
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As far as it's late, I'm pumped. Yeah, I'm definitely pumped
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for a lot of ways ago at quarterbacks been downs. You got the Allen
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Mahomes game, which I mean ownership pretty low, I think in that game
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we keep the likes roll and we will give away our first membership hoop take
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it away, man, this slate, how you see it? Plan out?
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I know we got some you know, Zach Moss, some cech CMC
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I means that running back spots feel like you could almost have your lineup's just
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come pre built this week. But lots of good quarterbacks and stacks and things
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like that. So talk to us here your first thoughts on this slight,
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your grand scheme overview, if you will. Yeah. So, I initially
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in the week, I thought a lot of people might go to these quarterbacks,
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these expensive quarterbacks. But as the week has gone on, I think
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they're they're going away from the expensive quarterbacks. So I'm DK, I'm FanDuel.
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It's a little bit different. The pricing is way softer, and like
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a guy like Mahomes is eighty four hundred, he's going to be popular over
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there, tough devoid. But on DK specifically, I think people continue with
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the trying to go in with the cheaper quarterbacks with a fine. I mean,
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there's a lot of cheap quarterbacks that I like today. But you know
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one thing that I think I'm looking at doing it is probably playing some of
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these expensive guys. I mean, we'll talk about it in the Chiefs Bills
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game. I mean, both these teams are going to want to win these
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this game, There's no doubt about it. And ownership you know, I
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don't think it's going to be all that crazy, So we'll talk about that
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one. I think that's definitely a key one in the afternoon. But the
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running back position is loaded, and it just keeps getting better. The Alvin
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Kamara stuff. Now, you know, Taysom Hill is out, Derek carrs
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in a lave supposedly sick no shaheed. It seems like a really good spot
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for Kamara. There's like six i'd say strong strong running back plays today,
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like very very strong. So you know, maybe it's a day where we
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keep it thin in terms of how many running backs we play, because man,
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it just feels like three of those guys are going to have monster,
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monster days, which we'll we'll get to as we break down the slate.
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And then, as I said in the opening, wide receivers wide open today,
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I mean it is wide, wide open. So you're gonna have to
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have the guys that go off at that position. Who are they? I
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don't know. It's the most challenging position on the slate by far. Tight
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end. We have Kelsey, you know, we have kind of kittle somewhere
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in the middle there, and then a bunch of cheap tight ends again that
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we can play. So it's a very dynamic slate, i'd say, and
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one of the better ones that we've had in a while in my opinion.
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Yeah, title, I think Hoop said it best or too. We got
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like the high low specifics on this slate, Like as far as the dynamics
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go, you got some of these lower priced quarterbacks that pair easily or stack
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easily, and that looks good if you want to fit in some of these
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upper expensive like a CMC of course who will get to and then other guys
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at the wide receiver position. But then you also have those mid range receivers
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that you can use. You have the low end running backs in a guy
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like Ceh and that where you just like people said in the chat earlier,
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it's a gift, just use it so you can see it from both perspectives.
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And then we also have the payof quarterbacks, right, You've got mahomes
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Alan Lamar if you want to. I mean, fields is a tier down
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as far as price is considered, but you do have options here where you
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can pay up versus the cheaper quarterbacks. So how are you seeing a title?
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I'll get your grand scheme overview before we hop into this first game.
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Yeah, a lot of what Hoop said, I think quarterback and tight end,
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Like I think more people go cheaper, but there's still really good options
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up top which people will still go to, which I think leads a lot
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of different roster construction. Running back is loaded. The Alvin Kamara news,
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I guess it was ALP Kamara news, Tayso Hill news, him being out,
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car being in even overnight made running back even stronger. We have HF
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forty two hundred. Obviously no Pachaco CMC is way too cheap on dk Zach
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Moss still is very strong with the big workload. Now Kamar, there's multiple
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good running backs and you go to receiver and it, like Hoop says,
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it's gross. I think people that's where that's where the slight's gonna be one
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like, what receiver, what couple receivers are gonna nuke this light? Who's
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gonna put up the Nico Collins game of such last week. The last thing
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I'll mention is weather. Two games again, looking at ross stuff, everything
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is green except two games are Orange Houston and the Jets and then the Rams
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in Baltimore. Didn't have much interest in either of those I think my favorite
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was Garrett Wilson. When we get there, we'll talk about it. But
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I know people always ask, especially this time of year, only two Orange
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games. Yeah, we'll definitely be doing that, and everybody always asks,
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oh, how you cheating? How are you handling this weather? Now we've
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got this, we'll get to it. When we get to the specific games,
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I'll get title and hoop to keep an eye on that. For me,
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I sometimes forget. But when we get there, met anything you've got.
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Like I said again, shout up to our guy. Nevs giving these
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away, So we're gonna hit these throughout. Keep smashing the like button.
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Title. I'll let you look for one. We'll take a breather for
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a second, and whop, I'll let you start. You had the Kamara
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mentioned earlier. I think it was Levitan who posts. Everybody knows Levitan.
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He posted a tweet today it made perfect sense. He said, we got
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the perfect storm for Kamara. You got Derekkarra the checkdown king starting no Winston,
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and then you got Taysom Hill the touchdown vulture out or doubtful. So
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I assume it's gonna go that way, and here you go. Kamara's right
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there at eighty two hundred. As I said earlier, though, who people
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are liking cmc ceh and Zach Moss all for very good reasons. On all
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of them. You only get those three spots. There is no way,
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but you're gonna have to mix a match these guys. So, like you
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said, keeping a tighter pool. Talk to us about Carolina, New Orleans.
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Here you can. You can run it up first. Yeah, so
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on the Carolina side, pretty simple. I mean, it's just gonna be
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Jonathan Mingo just getting a lot of targets. He's one of these cheap guys.
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We talked about it. Wide receiver is pretty wide open or very wide
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open. Today you pull up what Mingo's been up to and ten target six,
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target seven, four five. You want the guys that have opportunity at
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this position, especially today when there's not any like true slam dunk plays.
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It's thirty five hundred, makes a lot of work. Good going with him
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on this slide as ownership is up there, So I mean there are a
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lot of other cheap wide receivers that we'll talk about throughout the show. He's
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looking to be the highest owned of the cheap wide receivers, but it'll be
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in my pool today for sure. On the same side, yeah, I
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mean, Elvin Kamara is the spots phenomenal. I mean, you mentioned all
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those things and then you know, whether you believe it or not, they
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say a Lave is sick or has some sort of illness, So maybe he's
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not at one hundred percent. Now, that doesn't mean to fade a Lave.
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I mean I didn't have a lot of him prior to this news.
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I have some I'll stick with him in those spots, but not really making
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adjustments on that news. But I do think it's another potential boost to Kamar.
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Just seems like a Kamara spot. They're at home, favored by basically
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a touchdown against the worst team in the NFL. He has a lot of
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different ways to get it done today. Get it done with the catches.
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He can get it done at the goal line. He can get it done
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when they're playing with the lead. He can get it done if they're playing
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from behind. It just seems like a full proof spot here for Kamara,
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and he's just added to the list of really strong running back play today.
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This is the first game. We'll get too many more as we go throughout
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the show. But you know, really like him at that eighty two hundred
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price tag. I'm glad he's not like sixty eight hundred or seven k or
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something like eighty two. You know, he's not going to be low owned.
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But you know, we got Kamara right there and whatnot, So I
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really like him. At Perry's gonna have to be involved. Another cheap wide
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receiver you can mix in there. They just don't have pass catchers. And
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you know, the Taysom Hill thing is pretty damn big. I mean there's
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they have design plays for Taysom Hill to pass the ball, to run the
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ball, to catch the ball. He's out. They're gonna need some other
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guys to step up. And then Juwan Johnson thirty three hundred, cheap tight
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end they can mix into your playerpool. I actually like him quite a bit.
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I mean, I think he's a very strong play at at thirty three.
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So the Saint side Kamara, Perry Johnson look pretty strong a lave,
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you know, I wouldn't let the illness news dictate what you do with him.
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If you're on him big, I'd stay on him big. If you
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weren't really on him much, i'd you know, stay off them essentially.
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So yeah, a really good spot for some of these saints guys. Yeah,
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like a lot of the stuff you brought up. Juwan Johnson obviously overnight
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looked a little better once we got some of that news, and makes sense
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that thirty three hundred he was q TAG coming into this one, So we'll
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take that the Mingo call thirty five hundred. I think secondary stack, a
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cheap one could be Mingo and Juwan Johnson. But obviously I think it's a
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nice way to balance out Camara there where you've got him at eighty two hundred,
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drop it back down with Mingo, not saying it'll be super low,
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but definitely a way you could go about it, and then Ham. Everybody
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knows I've been using that ham slate plan. He got me on this Bryce
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Young forty nine hundred bucks. If you want to have another cheap stack Mingo
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with Bryce Young and then fitting Kamara or Juwan, you could start fitting everything
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you want. I do think title this is a slate where it might just
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end up being four or five guys that score thirty plus that you need,
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and then it's not going to be like the crazy score. Remember last week
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we had Zach Moss still in the Millionmaker winner with seven. Now you did
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have a lot more thirties out there last week, and this week could be
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the same. But I'm saying, I do think if you could just get
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some of this stuff to hit half decent but fit in the other big boy
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plays, that's what we're gonna be looking at. So that's why I don't
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hate that type of strategy and set up and then one last point and then
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I'll let you take on this game. Title. Is the chat brought it
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up talking about after noon games. I think it was our guy Kevin here
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shout at to Kevin said, weird balance of afternoon games and less morning.
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Does that ever help or hurt you guys? It is kind of slate dependent,
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But this is actually a pretty good late swap slate because you can make
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the case for a lot of stuff going on in the afternoon. The Big
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Boy game between Buffalo and Kansas City will get there. There's some takes on
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the Denver Chargers game that you could see. You've got Dobbs with Jefferson Pack,
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You've got Seattle San Francisco. Like the Afternoon has four games and all
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of them I think you could make a bit of a case for so we'll
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get there more. It's a good question, but I think you want to
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end up like it's kind of like an NBA when people are like, oh,
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I got to have a late hammer, that's the only way you win
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an NBA. No, I've anti sweated plenty of nights where I'm at the
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top very early and have to fend off stuff down the stretch and wait for
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it. It's not the truth. It's just what people think because it's what
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they see. You don't have to have situational stuff like this. And we'll
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talk more on that when we get to the Afternoon title. You could take
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it away here Carolina and New Orleans. What do you got in this game?
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Yeah, I mean I echo what you say with that too. Like
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NBA is really the only sport that I kind of look at the times in
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the late games with injury news that can change everything. Like NFL, we
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pretty much have the news here. I'm not worried too much early afternoon games
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like that. I don't look at it as far as this game really easy
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for me. Kamara became a very strong play, one of the best touchdown
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props on this late minus one fifty five. I think a Labby is also
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very interesting because everyone wants to go Kamara direct leverage, you get a Labby.
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Yeah. The illness, I don't know, like that stuff is always
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a little concern and not concerning. I don't know what to do with it.
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Like he's expected to play it's an illness. Is he coughing up loogies
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every other time? Is he win it after running a go route? Like?
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I don't know. But if he's out there, he's playing. He's
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Chris Olave direct leverage off of Kamara, who's now definitely gonna be very chalky
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in a pretty good game environment at home. So I do like a Lave.
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I'll keep rolling on my like Kamara, and then it's only Jonathan Mingo
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on the other side. It was the feeling show earlier in the year.
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His legs might be tired or something. This late in the year, Mingo
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rookie explosive at least six targets the past four games. He is definitely my
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favorite. There good price tag, so really only three guys for me,
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yeah a little bit, I mean, for sure eats into it a little
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bit, but CMC is still way too cheap on draft gings. There's still
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a lot of value, So maybe it came down like four or five percent,
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He's still gonna be way up there though. That's how I see it,
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and we're getting ahead of ourselves. But Ross knows what's up, you
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know. I'm bringing that up literally. I don't know if you guys saw
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this plus one oh five to score two touchdowns for CMC today, like that
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is nuts, and whatever happens happens. But man, it's pretty wild.
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So I wouldn't let the Kamara stuff dig too deep into that. But I
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think my thing is what's interesting at least, and we'll get there in a
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second. But I have three running backs on this slate, with Kamara and
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CMC being two of them, and the third one is not Zach Moss or
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Cech. As much as I'm playing them and like them, I'm not saying,
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but I'm saying, I would love lineups when I can get these three
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running backs in that include the two of CMC and Kamara. I think that's
20:27
the spots today. The CMC is the obvious one. Kamara just got so
20:30
much better overnight. And the nice part of the two, as we'll move
20:33
on to La and Baltimore here, is that they could just just balance each
20:38
other out enough, Like you're not gonna see them both get the forty plus
20:41
or something. They're just a too expensive. The cheap guys make more sense,
20:45
et cetera, et cetera. We have lots of receivers and lots of
20:48
quarterbacks at different prices, tons of tight ends top and bottom, like you
20:51
can do whatever you want on this slate. So I definitely think that's interesting.
20:53
And Jay said, and I'm not saying every lineup, but I'm saying,
20:56
yeah, that's definitely an opportunity today. I think that you can get
20:59
after so title. I'm gonna stay with you there. I don't know if
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you found a winner yet, but if not, you got one, all
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a question for you boys. I don't know if I want to get chaos
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old or what, but how bad you got to run to get three girls
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back to back to bad? Yeah? Well, be carey, be careful
22:21
title, because I know you. I know you're you're on the verge of,
22:23
you know, potentially starting a family here relatively soon. You talked like
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that, and I know you want to know you're gonna I know you're gonna
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want a boy at some point, So you gotta be careful what you say.
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Trust me that the wife's parents have already told me that I am getting
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all girls because I've been saying this for years, so I yeah, yeah,
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that's all. You gotta be careful. Here's what you say in order
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to get a boy? All right? You just say, I don't care
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what the sex is. I just want a healthy baby. That's that's always.
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That's what you say. That's what you say, and you'll get the
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boy, all right. I already passed that, but you are right.
22:52
That's after two girls. Yeah, go after two girls. Yeah, I
22:57
have a boy and a girl. I had the girl first, but I'm
23:00
very lucky for that because I didn't want to go for any more. After
23:03
that point, I was like, oh, this is perfect. We got
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just what we needed, one of each, and we're happy. So,
23:07
you know, teach their own. I got friends that have multiple boys and
23:11
they're nuts. They're jumping off the couch from a couch to a chair and
23:14
smashing their face off the coffee table and doing all kinds of crazy stuff.
23:18
The girls are kind of better off. But what you did, like,
23:21
he says, remember when they're teenage girls. Damn, that's been like you
23:23
got to check out. That's gonna be a bad scene. I'm on the
23:26
French man. I got a lot of daughters eleven and it's yeah, it's
23:30
getting scary. It's almost game time, boys, it is almost game time
23:34
for who scary hours in the world ain't getting any better. Unfortunately, Yeah,
23:40
this guy too. We're getting back to it. Well, we'll stay
23:41
with you on LA. But this was funny. The guy last week when
23:45
I won, responded to Mayo, not him. It's just funny. That's
23:48
why he's bringing up the joke. The guy said to Mayo. Of course
23:51
Tambo wins when it's not for the people. As if I lit like literally
23:55
through King of the Beach and didn't WoT the three hundred k and up here.
24:00
Very generous, Yeah, trying to get I would have won two hundred
24:03
and seventy K still at that and a Tournament of Champions live final seat.
24:07
But I didn't do it for the people. I only did it for myself
24:08
last weekend instead, while I'm still giving away plenty of money and everything all
24:12
the time. I thought that was one of the funniest call outs I've ever
24:15
seen. This is a this is a very good point. We don't need
24:18
to continue on. But he's like, when you have boys, you only
24:19
have to worry about that. When you have girls, you have to worry
24:22
about everyone else. That's a very good point. I think about it like
24:25
that. Yeah, is that like title? The guy has like titles?
24:30
You want to see that again? Look at that. Look at that stud
24:32
man with that bow tie, the teal bow tie definitely did some damage.
24:37
That definitely did some damage that night. And that Oh god, all right,
24:42
title talk talk to us here, man. We got Rams Baltimore,
24:47
like Lamar missed the practice earlier in the week or whatever, and then I
24:49
mean, he's back, He's fine. Lamar versus NFC opponent. It's been
24:52
a pretty good spot to target. I think it's interesting on this light.
24:56
They are at home. I know it's tough to figure out who to put
24:59
him with. I think this is one of the games too. People will
25:00
want to talk about the weather, so I'll let you start this one off.
25:03
We got this and then nine more games to go, so keep smashing
25:07
that like on the way in or if you're just joining us now. Yeah,
25:10
this was one of the two weather games Rossas. It looks to be
25:11
ugly rain essentially all game. Most of it's heavy rain. Expect sloppy conditions.
25:18
None of that paints a picture or something I want to play, like
25:22
day flowers in a good game environment. I think is interesting. He's going
25:25
to be so low owned. He's explosive, he's athletic, like with all
25:29
this rain, like the rain games. Some people are like, all right,
25:32
he kills the offense. Some people say it kills the defense. I'm
25:33
on the side it favors the offense a little bit. The receivers because they
25:37
know what routes they're running, where it's cutting and all that's harder. However,
25:41
it also like the Ravens will be fine running the football forty times if
25:45
they can, and making this game really grow. So I guess long winded
25:48
way of saying I don't like this game, Zay, I think I'm fine
25:52
at sub five percent ownership. Hopefully he breaks a big one Ravens defense.
25:56
I mean, he can definitely play the defenses. But yeah, not much
26:00
for me in this weather game. Yeah, I will say that, I
26:02
too like the Saints D in the first game too. Could be an interesting
26:04
one going against Carolina. And I was talking about Hams and Bryce Young play.
26:07
But if you want to play Saints D there in this one, definitely
26:10
think Baltimore D. Definitely like Lamar. I do like your take on that
26:14
though, and I lean the same way you do. When I'm siding on
26:15
one. I'm still going with the offense. Actually, I know the defense.
26:18
Oh they'll slip, they'll drop it more, whatever. But that leads
26:21
to other stuff. And that's why something like a Lamar to likely with like
26:26
a Kieran Williams. Kieren Williams does not have the best matchup here, but
26:29
he's been getting volume like crazy, and it just takes one slip and fall
26:33
or one mistake to be made and next thing, you know, he's off
26:36
to the races, so I think a good contrarian GPP running back play there.
26:40
You could mix in like the Zay Flowers the Rashad Bateman's at cheap if
26:42
you wanted to. But I definitely think you could see Lamar have a big
26:45
game. He's just gonna run here or he should and we'll see how that
26:48
goes. But I'm gonna take some chances on it. Hoop, what are
26:51
you doing here in this game? Yeah, I'm not gonna be on any
26:53
of the Rams guys. Just a really bad spot in Baltimore. Baltimore's defense,
26:59
very solid team total for the Rams sitting at sixteen. I get to
27:03
Kieren Williams stuff, but man, he's got He's gotta outscore some guys in
27:08
really really good spots today, Like he's got to outscore some big dogs today
27:12
that are in like the Nut matchup. So get it from an ownership perspective,
27:18
but I'll be passing on that and the rest of the offense on the
27:22
ravens Lamarron FanDuel looks pretty solid, good priced egg. They continue to keep
27:26
him price down, which you know his game fits FanDuel scoring, So I
27:30
think it makes a ton of sense, So definitely in on lamarn FanDuel in
27:34
on some Ja Flowers. Isaiah Likely, I think you can definitely play him
27:40
at tight end thirty five hundred on DK, And then you know Keaton Mitchell
27:45
forty nine hundred. You know, if you're looking for a pivot off a
27:48
popular cech, he's then other guy that's way down there and he has multiple
27:52
touchdown upside. So yeah, I mean, I don't love these guys on
27:55
the Ravens side, but I will have some exposure to them. But he
27:57
had nothing on the rams for me. Yeah, people like the keat and
28:00
play too. I did mix a little bit in, but man, I
28:03
know it's forty nine hundred. They're at home. They should run all that.
28:06
I get it, And it's a way if you're not willing to go
28:07
to Lamar here or something like that. But it's just, man, there's
28:10
still a bunch of guys in there. You could see it because when they
28:12
get down to the goal line, he's the guy that can make moves though
28:15
and make it happen. So I definitely don't hate that. And the thing
28:18
with the running backs just to yeah, you know, not to cut you
28:22
off, but the thing with the running backs, it's like you gotta set
28:23
set a benchmark, like what do you think these running backs need to be
28:26
on optimal today? And it's like, man, you're gonna need You're gonna
28:30
need like twenty five. It seems like, you know, maybe thirty.
28:33
I mean, there's there's seven guys I think in really really good spots that
28:37
can just get there. So it's not like you need to Keith Mitchell go
28:40
out there and get fifteen. I mean it could be good for single entry
28:42
or something like that, but in these big, large field stuff like,
28:47
these guys are gonna have to go off I feel at the running back position
28:49
to beat some of these big dog guys today. Hell yeah, that either
28:55
you were pulling it up too. Yeah, go ahead, because you guys
28:57
are playing more lamar. And I've seen most people say it, but yeah,
29:00
it's an interesting question. Yeah. I mean I won't have it that
29:06
way, but I get it. Like I'm just I typically always pair whether
29:11
it's wrong, right or wrong. But if you're handbuilding or you know,
29:15
depending on the contest that you're in, I'd be fine with that. Yeah,
29:18
let's let's go to a better game here. But I will say Kieran's
29:22
only in my Lamar builds, so that's the only way I'm using them is
29:26
like it's a speed the game up type thing. That's how I would want
29:27
it. Raining. Anything could happen, like I say, on the ground
29:30
there for the offense. So either side, Nick Kat, this is Caddy.
29:33
We hooked him up. I don't know if he got his T shirt
29:36
yet, hoop, but we set it out for the marathon. But he's
29:38
there. He says. It's not raining but hot cold beer in hand with
29:41
the Ravens fans, whether won't stop us shipping it? When I win six
29:44
figures today with the Ravens, I'll give six memberships back to the community.
29:48
So shut out to Caddy keeping us updated there. But who, let's stick
29:52
with you. You like this game? I know you do. A lot
29:53
of people do, I think, actually, and there's reason to like this
29:56
game. It's Indy and Cincy still holding on at a pretty deep in total
30:00
forty four. The weather says, you know, sustained wins around ten miles
30:03
an hour, like nothing too crazy there. We saw Browning come out and
30:07
get the job done against the Jags, and Prices pretty much stayed down on
30:11
everyone here so I'm very interested to get your takes on this game, both
30:15
sides of this game. What do you got here with Indy Cincy. Yeah,
30:18
I think it's a very appealing game from fantasy perspective. I mean,
30:22
I think there's a lot of guys that we can potentially go go to here,
30:26
some at lower ownership, some at higher. Zach Moss is going to
30:30
be very popular, and rightfully so, last week very popular got you know,
30:34
had the role that we all anticipated, just didn't get the job done
30:37
essentially, But hey, it's about opportunity here. Could easily flip that this
30:42
week and go off. You will be popular, but you know, with
30:45
the Kamara news cch coming into the mix, not as popular as as last
30:48
week most likely. So Moss is a fine play. Pittman seventy three hundred.
30:55
I think people kind of overlooking a little bit that I'm not going to
30:56
love that price tag. I don't love that price on Pittman. But if
31:00
this game does get into a back and forth type type thing, which I
31:04
think it could, Pittman's a guy that can just get there in a lot
31:08
of different ways. You know, he can score touchdowns, he can get
31:11
the receptions, he can get the yardage. So I do like Pittman today,
31:15
Josh Downs cheap wide receiver. The one guy I haven't decided on.
31:18
I'm curious see what you guys say is Minshew at quarterback? I currently don't.
31:22
I don't know if I have any or maybe it's just a small amount,
31:26
but could bump that potentially, I don't know. I'm curious see what
31:29
you guys have to say about Minshew. But I like all the pieces that
31:30
go along with it on the Bengal side. You know, we we kind
31:36
of talked about it on the Cash Game Show, and I think it definitely
31:37
applies to this. Like love who I saw at a Browning and I saw
31:41
enough out of Browning. I mean, he was composed on a big stage,
31:45
got the job done. Great connection with Jamar Chase, which is the
31:48
number one thing if you're going to be a quarterback for the Bengals, you're
31:52
asked better have a good connection with with Jamar Chase. And that is exactly
31:56
what we saw in that game. He went to him twelve times, eleven
31:59
catch has had the big play. This guy looked composed, man like,
32:02
he wasn't rattled by the spot at all. He has a little bit of
32:06
running upside. He's only fifty two hundred. You know, people were talking
32:09
about him like he's gonna be very highly on. Quarterback always gets spread out,
32:14
so I just can't say, oh, he's gonna be chalk this week.
32:15
Quarterback always gets spread out every week. So if you like a guy,
32:19
it's very easy to get overweight on these quarterbacks. So I really like
32:24
him at the fifty two hundred, like the connection with Chase. You know,
32:29
T Higgins unowned, like I don't do I love T Hugget Higgins today?
32:32
No? Do I love the wide receiver position today? No? So
32:36
I'm going to take chances on a guy like T Higgins that you know,
32:39
he didn't do much last game. But let's say they give a lot of
32:44
attention to Chase and T Higgins, you know, has an easier situation today,
32:49
Like I want some of that. I think Tyler Boyd is officially questionable.
32:53
I meant to check him. Let me just se yeah, so he's
32:55
still questionable. I'm guessing he does play, and you know, there's not
33:00
much information on him, so I guess that's one thing we need. So
33:04
if he were to sit, you know, I think Higgins Chase obviously get
33:07
a little bit of a boost, and then Irwin comes in as another cheap
33:08
wide receiver. We need to get that news. Kanner Hudson is a play.
33:12
And then the play that I really like in this game is Joe Mixon
33:15
at sixty one hundred. He will now go a little overlooked. He's gonna
33:19
get some ownership, no doubt about it. But Moss will be more popular,
33:22
McCaffrey will be more popular, Kamara will be more popular, Edward Later
33:28
will most likely be more popular. Sixty one hundred, he's gonna get all
33:30
the work. You know, Chase Brown did mix in. Okay, we
33:34
saw Chase Brown get a lot of work, but man mixing is still their
33:37
guy, and I feel good good about him at sixty one hundreds. So
33:39
I think this is a really solid all around game. I really thought coming
33:45
into the week, seeing Jamar Chase's price tag, seeing what he did on
33:49
was that Monday night I can't remember what primetime game was, I really thought
33:52
he'd be very popular this week Jamar Chase, and that's just simply not the
33:54
case. I think he's an elite play on the sleep. I see what
33:58
he did though, though Chase brown did mix in get it and they got
34:01
Jamar Chase Browning mix in. They did get in with Chase Brown. N't
34:06
get one, can't get one past yet you cannot. But here's the deal.
34:09
I'm in on all the stuff you just said. Two things I don't
34:14
two things I don't see happening like one how like you said one part I
34:16
agree on. How can mix and get the ownership as much when you've got
34:21
Moss, cech CMC and now Kamara overnight Like that to me is like mixing
34:25
has to be capped somewhere like fifteen to eighteen is how I feel it will
34:30
play out. When you've got a guy like Zach Moss who's still popping what
34:32
looks to be well over thirty again, it's not gonna be like last week,
34:37
but he's still getting all the ownership. Here the one I don't agree,
34:39
and I know we're seeing it everywhere, even our ownership projections out there.
34:43
I remember ownership projections have been off. I don't see Chase coming in
34:46
as low as what it says. He's he's free, he's seventy six hundred
34:50
dollars. They've moved him around. If you noticed last week on the twelve
34:52
catch or the twelve targets. He caught eleven of them if you watch the
34:55
game, and we did because it was that primetime game. He was like,
34:59
they're just moving him into the most wide open spots and just let him
35:02
do the work. They're not like throwing down field heavy for him or anything
35:06
crazy. They there's some of that mixed in, of course, mixed in
35:08
Garrett where we go again, But I'm saying, I think it's a spot
35:12
where you can just find him and use him in that sense, So I
35:15
think more people are gonna get to him. I certainly am. I love
35:17
the Browning side, Like you said, I am on the Minsheu side.
35:20
But title, I'll go to you before I do the two v two swap.
35:24
Aru. Here we go, Zach Moss and Jamar Chase. Every single
35:30
one of those lineups. You need to find one hundred bucks. But you
35:32
can look at your lineup that you alread built where you have the Cleveland defense
35:36
in there, and drop down to one of those guys at twenty nine hundred.
35:38
You swap it to Mixin and Pittman right there, and Mixon will be
35:43
twenty percent less than Moss. And I think Pittman and Chase end up coming
35:46
in almost the same and I think it's gonna be the Pittman show. He's
35:50
been getting peppered with targets all day. It makes sense there. And then
35:54
again, Moss is gonna be in plenty of my lineups, but in other
35:58
ones that I'm not doing it. I really like that too. B two,
36:00
I just don't don't think. And Mixon was the third guy that I
36:04
brought up earlier. If you can get Mixon, Alvin Kamara, and CMC
36:08
into your lineups, it's scary because there's no Zach Moss, but I'm probably
36:12
trying to put Pittman in that and there's no Cech. But Cech might not
36:15
break it like it might go like who said earlier, where Cech gets you
36:20
fifteen that's still very valuable at forty two hundred dollars, but it may not
36:23
do what's required for the build type on a day like today, if those
36:28
other guys all cross twenty five to thirty plus, and who knows, CMC
36:31
could have a huge day today or Kamara could have a huge day today.
36:35
So that's my thoughts for now. It's obviously Moss a great player. I
36:38
know a lot of people are talking about locking him and just playing a bunch,
36:40
and the fact that he's coming in way lower than last week but still
36:44
high. You can get on him. But I would love to get Kamara,
36:47
Mixon and CMC into a lot of my lineups today. I think that's
36:51
a good little trio to have, And there's still tons of ways to go
36:53
at quarterback stacks and opposite sides and all that. Title your thoughts here on
36:58
this game indecency. I mean, Mixing's ownership has to come down. With
37:01
the running back room so loaded today, and if you play all three of
37:05
those, I think the ownership on all three of them being played together is
37:07
pretty low too, because I mean there's value at tight end, quarterback,
37:12
some receivers, but I mean there's also some good, strong ch value at
37:15
running back as well, so that's interesting. I don't like Minshew, but
37:20
I do like Moss Pittman downs it's really just those three on the offense.
37:23
I'm good enough getting the exposure to Indie through there and not even having to
37:28
worry about the quarterback like I do like Browning. There's other guys down here.
37:30
I just would rather go to my ownership and throw it there. I
37:34
like the Bengals title Browning. I like what you guys are saying with Chase.
37:37
I mean, yeah, the ownership, I don't know. I think
37:39
it'll probably be around ten to thirteen percent. No strongly, now, I
37:45
know what you're saying for sure too, Tampa. But that running back room
37:49
like Kamara, I think Hurt chases ownership as well, even though it's different
37:52
positions, six hundred dollars difference, but people will find money to get there.
37:58
It's showing like ten percent. And again I'll clarify because I'm not saying
38:00
like he's not gonna be He's gonna be owned huge. I'm saying I think
38:04
him and Pittman both come in somewhere around fifteen. And that's not crazy.
38:07
Eighty five percent of the field not playing Chase let alone with Browning and all
38:10
these other factors. I think he's fine and great. I'm just saying in
38:15
that two v two, I know for a fact moss is way more than
38:17
mixing. And I can flip it the other way and someone asks like this,
38:22
I don't set rules like this. I don't force one or the other.
38:23
If I don't get one, make sure I get the other. Guy.
38:27
I don't think it's like a do or die must have indie receiver or
38:30
running back situation today with eleven games, and sometimes that can come true,
38:34
like last week the Miami Washington game, that huge total. My lineup over
38:37
on FanDuel that won the one hundred k had none of that game at all.
38:42
The oh my god, Tyreek Hill broke the slate in the first quarter.
38:45
Well nowhere to be seen on an optimal or a winning lineup last week.
38:49
Just he has to put up that money or that those points for that
38:52
money. So keep those little things in mind. But anything else, you
38:55
have their title that you want to talk about. If not, you could
38:58
take us into Jackxville. Cleveland is the next. Yes, so rappaport did
39:01
just come out and it's that Clyde Bullstar. But McKinnon's gonna split carries,
39:07
which means how that pertains to this is I don't know. I mean for
39:12
me, I have less interview news. Yeah, and I'll mix it.
39:15
If that's one. Yeah, if that's if that reports true, that yeah,
39:20
that's that changes things for sure. I mean that definitely changes things in
39:23
a bit, i'd say, in a rather big way. Like it,
39:27
I mean it should change mixing ownership. I think it changes things for real.
39:31
I actually don't think it changes things for d like, I don't think
39:35
users are now going and pulling a bunch of CECH out of their lineups at
39:38
forty two hundred. I think more people can talk themselves into that. Well,
39:42
he's just forty two hundred. Still, it's not gonna kill me.
39:45
The original news was Andy Reid said this. I just I don't see a
39:47
bunch of people going and dumping their CCH lineups right now based on one tweet.
39:52
That's how I would see it. But I think it could be big
39:54
hoop to your point on if it actually is true, then McKinnon is very
39:58
valuable at forty, especially against Buffalo here. They could be down like they
40:02
could need to throw to him, They could be checking it down more anyway
40:06
already. So the fact that they're saying he's good enough to get the mix
40:09
that could end up being something for sure. That's big for mahomes as well,
40:13
if McKinnon's going to be out there. If McKinnon's out there, that's
40:15
another boost for good old Patty and got another boost to make your mahomes lineups
40:21
harder to build. Yes, so you should up your exposure to m to
40:24
Mahomes if you're playing him today. We'll get there later though, the never
40:28
Mahomes game that we play. But anything else title for you. You're the
40:30
McKinnon whisper. What are you thinking now? He's a freaking man. If
40:35
it is a legit, they are gonna split half at forty eight hundred in
40:37
this game environment McKinnon in the goal line, I catch it passes. I
40:42
love McKinnon for sure. I'm not fully convinced, though, I don't know.
40:46
I mean, why would I know more than what Rappaport's saying, But
40:49
I don't know. It feels like it would be h McKinnon's hardly got work.
40:52
It's his first game back this week, Like, I don't know,
40:57
I lost another big dog. They said Austin with Joshua, Kelly and Spiller
41:02
and they're gonna ride the hot hand. Yeah that's what I was gonna say.
41:06
That means nothing on the slate, but that is crazy not doing that.
41:09
Yeah, but this game the one sect quick Jim did say the truth.
41:14
Jim's saying the truth. People just don't want to play this guy for
41:17
whatever reason. They're like, oh, that's all. Now I gotta switch
41:20
up myself. Maybe they are, Maybe it's opposite of what I feel.
41:22
I always think more people just talk themselves into it and they're like, ah,
41:25
you know what, he's forty two hundred, I'll just stick with it.
41:28
If everyone's going and changing their lineups, now, I think that's music
41:31
to a lot of people's ears, because at forty two hundred, you know,
41:36
he should be fine. Andy Reid said, first off, he would
41:38
be the guy, and Andy Reid's been pretty truthful in the past on that,
41:42
and McKinnon is the guy they want to keep healthier for the playoffs.
41:45
So you know they're saying split carries. It could be more of like a
41:47
mix him in type situation and just get him involved in. The guy is
41:51
electric with the ball in hand. It's nuts. Like when they get him
41:53
in, I'm always like, damn, he seems fast, like everything's good
41:55
when you're watching him. But man, it's just really tough to trust either
42:00
way. Maybe we'll we'll see how it goes, but we know the ownership
42:02
will still be more on Cech than McKinnon regardless of how things shake out.
42:07
So make your pick that way. Sorry, title go ahead Yeah, you're
42:09
good, So I'll finish up this indie Cincy game moved to Jacksonville, Cleveland,
42:13
which probably shouldn't take long. I like Moss, I like Pittman,
42:15
I like Downs, like Downs is gonna be the forgotten one. People like
42:19
Pittman rightfully, so people like Moss rightfully. So Downs still has a big
42:22
role. And you do get leverage off of a chalky Zach Moss. And
42:29
if I did go Minshew, I would probably go Downs Pittman Minshew, not
42:32
play Zach Moss and just get all the leverage and double stack it that way.
42:36
I like the big ole side with Browning, Tanner, Hudson. He
42:40
just samples in the mix er. Smith's in the mix like I wanted.
42:44
I think he's the best pass catching tight end. Everyone's going cheap at tight
42:47
end. If you're playing Browning, which I'll have some why not just throw
42:51
a cheap tight end pairing with him? But the stats came down last week
42:54
and he has so much competition on eleven game slate, I needed you to
42:59
help me with that one, both Tambo and Hoop. I like Chase though
43:01
Higgins fifty nine hundred at no ownership on a receiver slate. That's pretty tough.
43:07
I mean I can get behind that with Browning as well, so that's
43:08
interesting. I think I'm still more Chase. Like I said, the way
43:14
they're setting it up now. I love Higgins. I've fought for the guy
43:16
in the past, saying like how it's crazy people just love Chase and their
43:20
stats last season with Burrow, of course, but we're actually pretty similar across
43:23
the board. You always got him for lower ownership and cheaper. But man,
43:27
right now, the way they're setting up for Chase is like, just
43:30
get the ball to Chase, short passes, let him do the work.
43:32
And obviously he's a big guy, good to go. It's tougher for me
43:36
to get there. But obviously you're playing Browning, you're stacking in some Higgins
43:38
as well. It just makes sense. Yeah, when I like three percent
43:42
at fifty nine hundred, it's just mainly receivers, so tough too. That's
43:45
really all I got in that game, though. I like the Browning side.
43:50
Yeah, no one's ever doubting Mahomes, Like we know how good he
43:52
is, and like, now's the day to play him. You're the one
43:55
DGA, you have all the notes and stuff. Please go back and tell
43:59
me the slates Holmes was optimal and you know people, and on top of
44:02
it, then go do the record check of people that played like forty percent
44:06
of them and still got nowhere on the leaderboard because you needed the right you
44:09
needed the exact perfect stuff like this is what we're talking about. How about
44:14
we try out on Mahomes McKinnon rice stack and see how that works. Could
44:16
it work? Yeah, but you're still leaving out and then it becomes Justin
44:20
Watson day or it is the Kelsey three touchdown game and you need just him
44:23
like it's it's all kinds of stuff when you get to that. We'll get
44:27
to that game later. Go ahead, title here Jacksonville Cleveland. I mean
44:30
the Browns d is gonna be the chalkiest on the slate. Trevor will play,
44:34
but he is dealing with the high ankle sprain. Mobility probably gonna be
44:37
I mean, it is gonna be limited, low total. There's no weather
44:40
concerns. It's gonna be chilly in Cleveland. Though at the end of the
44:44
day, it's a long winded version of saying I don't like much on Jacksonville
44:47
at all. I think if you mix in like a Ridley, Ingram,
44:52
z A Jones. All of them should be very low owned Ingram, I
44:54
guess that tight end might get a little bit, but Zay Jones fine price
44:58
tag Ridley, no one's gonna play just spending. You're getting contrarian with guys
45:02
that have big time upside. Still in a good offense, but you have
45:06
to expect more quick passes from Lawrence and stuff like that, which can benefit
45:09
Ingram. Ridley's got big playoffs side on Max one of them. I don't
45:14
like the Jay side, the Brown side, Yeah, Brown's d I'll let
45:16
you talk about that more then. Probably just Elijah Moore, the joke,
45:21
I guess isn't the worst. I'll let you guys touch on the Flaco.
45:23
He definitely didn't just he didn't kill people by any means last week. That
45:28
was a big talking point with ham On here. But Elijah Moore was Flacco's
45:32
number one guy last week. Amari Cooper obviously, I don't know he's questionable,
45:38
he's gonna play fifty eight hundred, But I think it is Elijah Moore
45:43
this time of the year, he's more healthy, he's explosive. I think
45:45
that is Flaco's guy. So I'm gonna roll with him, really, just
45:47
him and Browns d Though the news that came out this week about the guy
45:52
Parlay Pickers stealing all the money injecting twenty two million back in. Someone said
45:55
Rappaport has got the shares on c He's trying to get that owner down,
46:00
throwing out that the split carries tweet because Andy Reid said it was not going
46:05
to be that way the actual coach of the team. But now Rapaport switching
46:07
things up for his DFS lineups. Maybe we'll have to see from there.
46:12
Hoopster. Parker Washington, man three thousand bucks in this game, Kirk outs,
46:17
as we saw, what's the plan here? What are we doing?
46:20
Man? I'm mad on PJ. Washington for sure. I mean three K
46:23
wide receiver. I mean he's yeah, definitely Parker PJ. Washington, that's
46:28
his nickname. If you guys didn't know, three K. I mean definitely
46:31
better play with Trevor Lawrence in there quick passes. You know, he looked,
46:37
he looks solid in that primetime game. I have no problem with him.
46:40
Zay Jones thirty seven hundred. I think he's a fine cheap wide receiver.
46:45
The one I don't like though, really all that much is Ridley because
46:46
he's going to rely more on the deep stuff, and I'll just I don't
46:50
want to pay a premium for a wide receiver with a quarterback that is definitely
46:54
not at one hundred percent, So Zay Jones Parker Washington with that. Brown's
47:01
defense is good though, I mean they're a solid defense. Ingram. I
47:06
don't love the price tag on Ingram, like he's kinda like price where I
47:09
just want to go cheaper or up a little higher. So it's gonna be
47:13
z A Jones and Parker Washington on the jag side for the Browns. I
47:17
agree. I think it's Elijah Moore as the wide receiver forty five hundred.
47:21
I think you can play in Djoku forty one hundred, and they're all just
47:24
like moderate place to me, I'm not thrilled about any of these guys.
47:28
The four I mentioned will be in my playerpool, but not with like super
47:31
high ownership or anything like that. Yeah, and this one too. Everyone
47:36
keeps talking about this. I'm just gonna bring up the note now because you
47:37
know I'm always running the tidbits. Lawrence had like fifty nine on the ground
47:40
with like the knee brace on or whatever. He had eighteen DraftKings points,
47:45
Like you're definitely not firing him up, and just because he did that in
47:47
that one game, it's like it doesn't even mean it will happen this game.
47:51
I actually think regardless, we're not getting like the start of the season,
47:54
Washington forty five percent ownership on this Cleveland side, Like it could be
48:00
Lords could go right down again and then it's it's onto another guy that will
48:04
be slinging it and chucking it around where they can make mistakes. It's very
48:07
hard to go into the dog pound and play for any team. It's a
48:09
thirty five point total. Like, I don't know, man, I think
48:13
just in that spot, I'd be taking the shots. Like Hoop said,
48:15
I got Jerome Ford some on the other side. I like this. We
48:20
just saw mix and run all over these guys. He's fifty five hundred.
48:22
Don't hate him again on this late it's tough. It's more of a fan
48:24
duel play just for like touchdowns and getting in the box. I think he's
48:29
good over there. The Cleveland d Zay Jones Parker Washington. The other note,
48:32
too, was real quick in Joku Pop's like crazy and all the projections
48:37
and I get him, but the and it's small sample, but it has
48:42
been true. It's like Flacco and Watson don't like in Joku. They haven't
48:45
been They don't throw the ball to him. Even last week Flaco threw the
48:49
ball to Harrison Bryant a bunch and got him a touchdown. So it's like,
48:52
that's the other thing. It was dtr that was throwing the ball to
48:54
Joku a lot in this game. So just if you want to keep that
48:58
in mind, you're not gonna get it in your projections. You're gonna have
49:00
to no ball a little bit and risk it. It's thinking you no ball
49:05
and try and switch that out, but you would get a bunch of money
49:07
back on paper if you make that move. And then, yeah, I
49:09
like this one. Fords and Brown d really more on fanjul but I definitely
49:14
do like that one. So let's keep it moving. Detroit Chicago title.
49:19
I'll go to you Fields. Field's in a good spot here. What's your
49:22
thoughts on this game? Oh yeah, Fields definitely in a good spot.
49:25
Detroit's defense has gotten worse as the years going on. Fields has the rushing
49:30
upside. We all know whether or not as a concern, Like earlier in
49:35
the week, I mean December and Chicago, you're always a little worried what
49:37
weather can be, but it looks like it should be fine. DJ Moore
49:40
has a good price tag. Just know it's not really gonna be too sneaky
49:44
like Fields quarterback, I think is going to be relatively spread out. Who
49:47
polways talks about it. Ownership usually is if people do play Fields, though,
49:52
I think most of those teams are gonna play DJ Moore because there's really
49:55
not other pairings. I'm still good with it. I think Cole Combet's an
49:59
interesting pairing well, kind of in that tight end range like you mentioned Djoku
50:02
Ingram that does feel a dead range, that four K range. Just go
50:07
down and get those high two K low three K guys, or get up
50:09
to the Kittles Kelsey's laportas. But I mean, I'm good. They definitely
50:14
have upside right here, does Cole Comeet? You've seen it multiple times with
50:17
Field, So just those three and you can easily just single Staff Fields.
50:22
Would I run them naked? I don't know. I'm with Hoop. I
50:25
usually rarely ever do that, so probably not love Fields though, Detroit side.
50:30
Sam Laporta, he's gonna be what two percent owner or something. Pay
50:34
up at tight end the streets, spin ups Kittle, Kelsey Laporta. That
50:37
I look at that all will be relatively low ishown Laporta definitely will be low
50:43
and probably the lowest of the three. But they had, I mean,
50:45
we just saw it last week, like they have that upside to nuke the
50:49
slate and break that tight end position. So I like spending up at tight
50:52
end to be contrarian. Am and Ross someone mentioned him earlier. He's just
50:55
gonna be completely forgot up here. People go up. It'll be the Keenan
51:00
Allens. There's chase a little lower that running back room CMC Kamara for the
51:04
same price. Take I mean, sign me up man Amara, Saint Brown.
51:07
If I'm playing fields, hope Laporta, Hope Amenra keep it closed.
51:10
I don't like the running back room. Good luck guess in which one it's
51:14
gonna be. So yeah, I like the game a lot, and it's
51:15
really condensed fields with either DJ or cole Comet or both Amorral Laporta on the
51:21
other side, call it. Yeah. I really like that stack quite a
51:23
bit. I also think that the Bears d is in play on both sides
51:28
too. Like again, it's not goff in a dome. We talk about
51:30
this all the time, GoF at home goff and a dome either or,
51:34
but this is not the case going into Soldier Field. It's not gonna be
51:37
someone's like, hell, the totals down. I think the total was only
51:39
like forty seven. This is the interesting part about this game. I think
51:42
it was only forty seven or forty eight in Detroit inside and now you're getting
51:46
forty three outside in Chicago. Like that is still at least somewhat interesting to
51:51
me. And again we've seen it plenty of games in the game coming up
51:52
next with Desmond Ritter in Atlanta. It's not total points scored, it's fantasy
51:59
points scored. And that's kind of the setup here, is that you can
52:01
get there with guys like Camet and Fields, and you can get there with
52:06
DJ Moore. You can use a guy like a Manra on the other side
52:08
where they may just pepper him up. You could use Monty someone mentioned him
52:12
Laporta lots of different ways. Who but you know the best about your Super
52:15
Bowl bound Detroit Lions. What are we doing here? In this game.
52:19
Man, you talk to us Lions Ravens rematch, right, that's right,
52:22
we're gonna get there. That'd be hilarious if we do, that's gonna be
52:25
some all time great content. But I can't really see it happening. And
52:28
I'll be honest for either side, just because the Ravens always find a way
52:31
to stumble down the stretch. But that's because I have Lamar Jackson a quarterback.
52:35
If only we had golf, if only exactly right with swap teams,
52:37
it might both be better off. You never know in regards to this game,
52:42
I mean, I really don't have much to add. To be honest,
52:44
I fully agree with what has already been said. Like on the Detroit
52:46
side, I like playing Saint Brown at low ownership. I like playing Laporta
52:51
at low ownership. They're great runbacks in the fields in fields team. So
52:57
like both those players with fields. It's Dj Moore, it's Cole Comet playing
53:01
together if you want, and you know, if you do that, if
53:04
you do double stack and make sure you do have either you know, Saint
53:07
Brown or Laporta coming back. On the other side, bears defense, I'm
53:09
good with. You know, golf has been very turnover prone. I guess
53:15
I agree with everything that you guys have said. I mean, it's a
53:16
pretty clear cut game to me. I don't want to mess with the running
53:20
backs here, don't want to mess with golf manra the port on the lion
53:23
side fields to more fields, to Comet fields, to both those guys,
53:28
if you want what kind of it seems like we're all a lockstep on this
53:30
one. I think so one last point I'll add there two last I guess
53:34
one quick as I actually am. I am still actually comfortable stacking it with
53:37
no run back from Detroit at all, just because we've seen it where like
53:40
fields can just run all over them. That's what he's done. It made
53:44
the tidbits this week he was in there could just be him and more where
53:46
more can also pay it off. And what I the biggest worry for me,
53:49
I guess it's twofold one is a Manro, very expensive. I like
53:52
him. I'm pretty much like I always like a Monro. He makes sense,
53:55
but it's like, I don't know if he'll end up doing enough at
53:58
that tag. You can't just get it out of somebody in that five K
54:01
to six K range or something he's got he's got to be loan though,
54:05
man like he's gonna be in some of the stacks naturally. I'm just saying
54:08
that I think you can do it without. And here's our guy, oh
54:12
Man, the honest Man and shipping nation right now, our guy Rob says,
54:15
I stacked with no run back on Detroit at King of the Beach.
54:17
Love it again. It is possible because the second factor is the Monte factor.
54:22
He's had good games against them, revenge game. It's been like enough
54:25
revenge games already. But my point is he also is at the running back
54:29
position where we love all these other dudes. So again, will he make
54:31
it into some Absolutely, and it makes sense he runs in speeds the game
54:35
up starts it the other way. We get a little back and forth going.
54:37
But it is possible to do it without. And then lastly, someone
54:40
asked about our stack rankings right here updated as of this morning. The field's
54:45
more comet stack moving up the board at a reasonable total ownership. So I
54:49
don't hate that as well. I think this is a really good spot for
54:52
them, who I'm gonna stay with. You move to a dome game here,
54:55
But this dome game only has a forty one point total. Because it
54:58
is Baker Mayfield versus Desmond Ritter. We got Tampa Bay Atlanta close spread though
55:04
in one game that we could see go back and forth. It's just how
55:07
much to what do we rack up here and what do we get out of
55:08
it? I got some takes on this. I'm going to let you go
55:10
first, Tampa Bay Atlanta. What's your thoughts on this one? Yeah,
55:15
it's it's a tough one for me. You know, I've been playing a
55:19
lot of Rashad White. I think he's in play, should come in really
55:22
really low on today, and just so many paths to get there. So
55:25
I will, you know, try to get a little bit of him.
55:28
Actually don't know. Let me see if I even have any of him at
55:30
this point. Might need to make some changes because I do want him in
55:32
there, I think a little bit. But you know, he's just got
55:36
so many paths like goal line work, pass catching work. You know,
55:38
he can he can do it all. So I do like Kim a little
55:40
bit. Mike Evans. I don't know, it's tough. I mean,
55:45
there's a lot of guys out there, but man, he's been pretty good.
55:49
I don't know. Kate Otten thirty one hundred, sheep tight end.
55:52
You can throw him in the mix on the falcon side. Bijon sixty five
55:57
hundred, finally starting to get more work. He's the guy I wants some
56:00
exposure to mine entitled boy Drank Drake London is now all the way down to
56:05
forty six hundred. Have a little bit of him. But I don't know
56:08
this game overall. I just don't have a strong rate on it. To
56:12
be honest with you, guys, I don't know what I'm gonna do with
56:15
Mike Evans at this point, so curious to get your guys take on him.
56:17
That's kind of the main question mark for me in this game, Like
56:21
what do I do with a guy like Mike Evans, who's clearly Baker Mayfield's
56:24
number one guy, Like you know, Chris Godwin has been fully pushed aside.
56:29
They have Trey Palmer in there. Yeah, Mike Evans is the guy
56:32
that I need a little bit of assistant songs. I really don't know what
56:35
I'm gonna do, but yeah, I don't have a real strong, strong
56:37
lean on this game. To be honest with you guys, I think Evans
56:40
you want to play on a stack right, like, I either want to
56:43
have him with Baker because he's typically the guy that's going to have that God
56:46
or that metcalf ass game like what we just saw, or like a DBOS
56:50
game. It's gonna be a two touchdown, one could be a bomb and
56:52
then catches eight other balls and gets in. So it's gonna actually help a
56:55
cheap quarterback like Baker Mayfield, who is fifty three hundred squeezed a little bit.
57:00
He's still getting some love too. I know that he's not off people's
57:02
radar completely, but he is squeezed between Minshew and Browning as like a side
57:07
note there, just to see it from that perspective. I know Aughton is
57:10
getting a little bit of love, so you could stack it up that side
57:14
use Drake London, who I think I'll let title talk about London. I
57:15
mean London has to be a good play at least on paper. I mean
57:19
he's forty six hundred and it's one note that I put in the tidbits this
57:22
week too. This Atlanta side much better in home games, like much much
57:27
better for all three of them, Ritter, London and Pitts. So I
57:31
actually got talked into some of those stacks. It's in the slate plan over
57:35
on the site how I'm building them out things like that. But I think
57:37
if you got those three in, you can get a guy like Mike Evans
57:40
on the other side and get creative. You can do a two tight end
57:44
with a cheap Auton and try and get the shoot out that way. But
57:46
it's a little bit off the board. But again with some bad weather games,
57:51
some afternoon stuff that you want to fit in, some high priced running
57:53
backs. I actually like this spot a little bit tight a. I'll kick
57:55
it to you, where are you at with these guys in this game,
57:58
because it looks like Bijon might be the highest stone guy but after Drake London
58:02
of course in this game. So at least the Atlanta side is getting a
58:06
little bit of love in the ownership streets. Yeah, I think that Bejon
58:09
ownership is gonna come down a bit up to lock as well, though with
58:14
the Kamara overnight news just running. I say that though, and then this
58:17
news hurts some of that value down there as well, So I don't know.
58:21
Drake London will definitely be the most popular in the game, and anytime
58:24
the dude's going to be pretty popular. I'm good getting underway in tournaments,
58:28
so I'm totally good. I don't need must drake London and tournaments. I
58:31
don't. I can't get behind Ritter the pits of the world. Hey,
58:36
good luck though, Tam, but win all the money million dollars up top
58:38
of multiple spots today. Let's see follow d Dry. Maybe I'll do you
58:44
though I'm due title I'm doing for a million. Yeah, all right,
58:47
nope, hoping it's a heater. I'm certainly not due. Very thankful.
58:51
I've been really lucky these last couple of FanDuel wins where it's like I need
58:54
a insane runout at the end of like a Devonte Smith two yard touchdown from
58:59
a team that just does the push every time there. So I mean,
59:02
I've had some good runouts there. But I will bring this up, just
59:06
get it back on track. I don't like it, like this is just
59:07
me. But I'm saying I love London and I know you're gonna try and
59:10
find ways to mini stack him. I would rather a London Aughton if you're
59:15
gonna do a keep two cheap guys that can just pay off enough. I
59:17
really think if Evans is involved and required it's gonna involve more. It's either
59:22
gonna involve Ritter with a stack out in him on the other side because he's
59:25
pushed this game where both sides go off, or of course it's gonna be
59:30
big enough to bring Baker along and break. Baker does shit around the red
59:34
zone too. He'd be trying to run it in and do all these crazy
59:36
things. He'll like take one of those hits though he doesn't care. And
59:38
I think if if you see Mike Evans have a big game, it's usually
59:43
like eight for one sixty on a touchdown or eight for one hundred and ten
59:46
and two touchdowns, and then you are gonna need it. And lastly,
59:51
Jay, one thing I will agree with you on now that I'm against you.
59:52
We're on the same team. We're trying to work together here. I
59:54
will agree on this. It's Christmas time. We're supposed to be the it's
59:59
the holiday and give back. We got to just take up no pause,
1:00:04
take that second, go out, hit the like button. Over seven hundred
1:00:07
watching almost seven or fifty watching last week, Hoop had the like spot working
1:00:12
for us. From the game. That thing was firing up the likes.
1:00:15
And now today your boy last Sunday. Your boy couldn't even turn on a
1:00:20
fucking computer. So I don't think I had the I don't think I had
1:00:22
the bots going like the worst of technology too. That's the best part.
1:00:27
So it wasn't him that had the like spot rolling, but somebody did,
1:00:30
and somebody got the reversal put on us right now. It takes literally two
1:00:34
seconds. It is free. It helps us out. We do every single
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show for free on Male Media Network or on our own channel. We're giving
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away memberships throughout. So the Ham effect he hops in. Now. Ham
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was on the show last week, just shitting on hoop All show. Yeah,
1:00:50
I heard, I heard I was catching some strays like, I wasn't
1:00:52
even violence man ham on who violence was there? I only speak, I
1:00:57
only speak kindly and highly of my my boy am. So I'm gonna have
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to I'm gonna have to keep my uh keep my ears perked up. Yeah,
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they said you were at the tailgate getting everybody to click at you were
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talking to all the grandma's in the wheelchairs, getting them set up and dialing
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them into the like button. But did you talk about anything else in this
1:01:14
game? You want to? Oh, who who did I did as much.
1:01:19
I like the Baker's side. You said Rock Tempbull, go ahead,
1:01:22
You're not interested with Ridder, with the Ridders, No, I'll be playing
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some of the Baker's I I agree with you. I like Mike Evans because
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I'll be playing some Baker like almost all my Mike Evans will be with Baker
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though, and I like it. But I mean, Evan's gonna be low
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owned at this price. Baker is gonna be low owned down here in the
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Dome. I mean I could get behind this and another one. I'll throw
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out Trey Palmer thirty two hundred Godwin is dust man. Godwin is dust like
1:01:46
the time for him is over. Know he's gonna go say someone who someone
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said Godwin? Whoever was Godwin's smash day Ryan, I'm doing this for you.
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He's dust. You get your one hundred plus two touchdown game. I'm
1:02:00
on the Trey Palmer side though, thirty two hundred five targets at least in
1:02:02
the last three games. So yeah, the bad Ju Juke Otwin going off
1:02:07
now. Evans Palmer probably suck and I'll probably lose. But hey, Baker,
1:02:10
Palmer, Evans, that's what I like. We need a hamtake in
1:02:14
the chat to know if he's on Baijan or not today in this game,
1:02:16
his boy by Jean Robinson said it like three times till we called him out.
1:02:21
It was perfect. Let me stay with you title hoop while I'm going
1:02:24
to title on this next game. Can you scroll back a little bit.
1:02:28
Let's do a fourth winner and then we'll see we probably got to cut off
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the winners if we're not gonna get more out of it. Nevs was so
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good to give back. We'll save the six month and the two extra months.
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A member is going to win one hundred bucks when we get to three
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fifty, but if we get to five hundred, we'll give somebody random one
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hundred bucks as well. Title. I'll go to you next game here,
1:02:46
Houston and the Jets. What are we doing in this one? Thirty three
1:02:50
point total? Jets at home? Any takes here? We got Tank Dell
1:02:53
hit the ir with that broken leg. There's lots of stuff that we can
1:02:57
talk about here, but it might be a fast moving spot. What do
1:03:00
we got with this one? Yeah? The second of two weather games we
1:03:02
talked about the Baltimore Rams. This is the other one. Roth has his
1:03:05
orange off and on down pours, Wins can get up to thirty miles an
1:03:09
hour. Just seems ugly. These offenses pretty ugly. Jets argetting Zach Wilson
1:03:15
back. There was interesting stuff about that. What he said he wasn't gonna
1:03:19
play. Then they released Tim Boyle and they finally brought him back. Regardless.
1:03:22
I don't like the offense on either side, Garrett Wilson. If the
1:03:25
weather was good even still, I want you guys to touch on Garrett Wilson.
1:03:29
How much is this The weather's concerning me? A bit like the gusts
1:03:32
will win. I guess the most is what concerning me. They want to
1:03:35
run the ball if they can. The price is good though, he's better
1:03:37
with Zach Wilson. That's the only offensive player I've interest though. But defenses
1:03:42
maybe, Garrett Wilson, you guys are all killing me. I'm gonna answer
1:03:45
your question. But Ham goes Baijan is about to ACPLD with Godwin as the
1:03:50
runback man. If that happens, I'll be in there on FanDuel because you
1:03:52
know, I got the slate plan the ham smatch, so I got it
1:03:55
in a couple, got it in a couple. But I do like the
1:03:59
Palmer called you brought up. I know we're on in the next game,
1:04:00
but I forgot that one title and definitely don't mind him thirty two hundred,
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And that's where I'm saying, if you will, like, I know you're
1:04:06
not into this one, but I'm just telling the world I give it away,
1:04:09
like the Ritter London Pitts Palmer. You can fit like five guys in
1:04:15
Remainer that can just crush, or four guys that can hit big numbers and
1:04:17
whatever else rounds it out. So I definitely think there's some interest in that
1:04:20
game. This one here reminds me. I don't know why this reminds me
1:04:25
of this so much, but it really reminds me of a spot where everyone's
1:04:28
gonna, you know, at least somewhat get on Garrett Wilson here and then
1:04:30
we're finally gonna get the Gibson spot or something that you know that the paydown
1:04:35
version of the same spot hits. And we watched the optimal lineup on the
1:04:40
review show tomorrow over at Line Star and see that, like, how did
1:04:44
people get to Gibson? Well, it's because everyone was on Garrett Wilson or
1:04:46
interested in him, because Zach Wilson was back and Wilson to Wilson, Wilson
1:04:49
squared whatever you want to call it, our boy, let's do that.
1:04:53
Actually, where are we at? Wilson? Hey, neighbor? We got
1:04:56
Wilson to Wilson and Wilson looking over the fence over their home improvement. Shout
1:04:59
out to that. But whop where you at on this one? Title?
1:05:01
Talk through it? I don't have much love elsewhere. Maybe the Jets D
1:05:05
I don't know what do you got in this one? Yeah, it's an
1:05:09
ugly game. It looks like there's rain and wind, which is not a
1:05:15
good combination. I do like some Garrett Wilson. I mean, it has
1:05:18
to be a little bit helpful to have Zach Wilson back in there. I'd
1:05:23
imagine over Tim Boyle, which was just an absolute disaster. So some Garrett
1:05:30
Wilson. You know, Conklin maybe at Titan. I know he's part of
1:05:32
your your winning lineup last week. He's super cheap on the Texan side.
1:05:41
Breverend Jordan, I still like thirty one hundred, but man, this is
1:05:45
this is the ugly one. Both defenses I think firmly in play here,
1:05:49
but there's just not much here. To be honest with you, hi Hei,
1:05:54
do you o neighbor? He knows, how do you know? Neighbor,
1:05:56
says Nick, And our guy, we're gonna get title to watch it.
1:06:00
Man, we're gonna get titled to go back and watch it. You
1:06:02
have no chance, no chance, he's like, who if you guys,
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notice that they're sold out, so you can still get in wells medium we'll
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go if you give them to the wife. Get some mediums. We've got
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a lot of mediums, so order the order the mediums. Yeah, I
1:06:18
should say, yeah, we saw the real sizes. Our guy shut up,
1:06:23
Dwayne n yg Fan, the man says, Jets defense playing for pride
1:06:26
even though they want to ship their quarterbacks to the XFL. But I do
1:06:29
like Jordan. Gibson's more of a gimmick to hide Wilson as much as possible.
1:06:32
Yeah, hear that. I guess I missed a couple of plays,
1:06:34
So I'll do that, and then we'll go on to the Afternoon Slate is
1:06:36
the after New Games or if you're playing the slate, you can mix that
1:06:40
in. But Brevin Jordan, who you mentioned in Conklin, I actually like
1:06:44
both of those guys again, and I like Conklind last week. It's another
1:06:46
guy that Wilson uses, so kind of opposite effect earlier of Flacco. Everyone
1:06:51
likes Njoku, but Flacco hasn't really been known to use him or when he's
1:06:55
in hasn't so far a small sample, but just in general, uh,
1:06:58
Houston or the Jets typically do use I think it's like fifty or sixty percent
1:07:01
of the time on like a ten game sample that Conklin has top ten draftings
1:07:05
points with Zach Wilson, so at that price, definitely have some interest in
1:07:10
him there. And he's also a pivot off of a leverage and pivot like
1:07:14
you're moving to tight end off the Garrett Wilson play, so I definitely don't
1:07:16
hate that as well. So interesting guts there, Hoop. I'll go back
1:07:21
to you. Did you find a winner for us? Yeah? I got,
1:07:25
I got caught in a rabbit hole. I went all the way back
1:07:27
and I was so many comments about like the teenage daughters, I got to
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stray. There were a lot of I mean a ton of comments. I
1:07:34
mean chat's super active, but we're just gonna go with the more recent one.
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He posted it twice. What's your thing, so nice you do it
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twice or you know, nice you posted twice. Yeah, he said he
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doesn't want the hundred bucks. He wants the membership, right, and that's
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what it's all about, you know, the one hundred dollars. The membership's
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worth way more than one hundred bucks, is basically what I'm trying to get
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at. So he'll get a monthly monthly try over here at shipping. Yeah,
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I said that last week actually on the review show. Literally just this
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page the slate plan is worth over two hundred k to me personally from Hamwich.
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So that's where some money just this one click of a link and we
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got all these other potential links that you're able to click. And then the
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discord yesterday with my guy Smarty, there's another five k just to popping in
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and seeing a core I had a ticket. I was like, I got
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to put something together. So yeah, I like this called Danny, you
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asked for a week membership. It's a month, my friend, so you
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will get in the discord. No red crossout or strike through for you,
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my friend. Screenshot your YouTube account, send it over to show that it's
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you to info at ship at nation dot com. After we get off here.
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I'm gonna go set up the code again, make sure it's active,
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get them sent out to everybody that's sent over and Adam knows sixty nine bucks,
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so nice gotta buy it twice. How do you not buy two?
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That is correct? We're not making those are the nice ones too? We're
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not We're we're not making money on these hoodies. I'll tell you that much.
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Yeah, these were selling them at cost, but we'll want people to
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wear them. We want you to rep the brands, the community. It's
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awesome. So one thingies like that is the one thing in life, Like
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if you buy shitty hoodies, it's like you get what you pay for when
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you get a hoodie. I mean, there's no no doubt about that.
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Also this, I do have to note this because our guy Rob is in
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here. Rob Mezka, he's the man. He's been absolutely crushing it.
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We talked about you just shipped to like fifty k the last couple of weeks.
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But I will tell you there's correlation. And this is also free on
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the site. Just go to ship at nation dot com, go to the
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three dots and click logos. Rep the team pick the logo of choice.
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He chose the one that I used and I love and it's been working for
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me too. Is the shipp at one. I know our boy title is
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quite over there. You got a mega NBA seat last night. I seen
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you take that one down in the showdown Street, so you know, I
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know you said he went to sleep. But this logo here especially is working
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really good with the hashtag on it. I like the first one too.
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This logo looks fire, especially on the hoodie. But yeah, I think
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it's fifty K since Rob Mezka, our guy lay the house, switched it
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over and got the logo change. He was crushing it before, but crushing
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it even more now. So we'll move it back. Let's go to the
1:10:02
afternoon sight here title. We got Seattle, San Francisco to kick things off.
1:10:06
We already talked about CMC plus one oh five to score two touchdowns.
1:10:12
We are, by the way news we didn't talk about. I think we're
1:10:14
still waiting to hear about Gino. Right like they said, they said Drew
1:10:18
Lock was taking the first round reps. An interesting part about him. I
1:10:21
know no one's gonna want to get to an expensive d here, but if
1:10:25
you put the forty nine ers d in with CMC. That's another way to
1:10:29
do it. And I man like Drew Lock is not coming in and just
1:10:32
handed in the ball off forty times. He's trying to sling it and rap
1:10:35
young Jeezy on the sidelines and shit like this guy thinks he's the man,
1:10:39
and who knows, maybe he sometimes is. But let's hear what your thoughts
1:10:43
are on this game. I don't know if he ever could be, but
1:10:45
I tried to pump him up a little bit there at least. Hey,
1:10:46
he was the man going in the fourth quarter when all the cameras were on
1:10:49
him rapping. He was definitely the man then. But yeah, usually usually
1:10:54
not on the field. Yeah, that is a good, amazing clip.
1:10:59
You gotta love it. I mean, the dudes is backup quarterback in the
1:11:01
NFL. I mean he's done a lot, a lot in life. As
1:11:04
far as this one, I don't know Gino's really like, I don't know
1:11:09
if he's gonna play or not. It feels really true game time, which
1:11:11
means I have no interest in any of the Seattle offense. Kenneth the Walker's
1:11:15
back too, so we don't get sharbon A JSN was interesting. He was
1:11:18
the only one i'd interested in at forty one hundred still maybe a little bit,
1:11:23
I guess all the way down there. I love if people say ass
1:11:26
cheeks. We always say cheeks. I love it when they put though you
1:11:30
get the opposite side with lock's not that bad okay, which I can make
1:11:33
fun of, but not tokay. I just thought it was hilarious, but
1:11:36
it is. That's the part you want though for the defense side. That's
1:11:40
my point. When you get a backup coming in that's like a he's a
1:11:43
second but a third string second string quarterback, and the team's like, how
1:11:45
do I hide this guy? That's a problem for defense as people load up
1:11:49
the defense against that because of that. But it's not someone who's gonna sling
1:11:54
it. Locke is gonna try and do shit. He's gonna try and be
1:11:56
the man, and that's what we want. And you're going up against the
1:11:59
forty nine ers who are just fully loaded, and then Derek comes in and
1:12:01
drops the hammer on him and just says, Locke is has cheeks. Sorry,
1:12:04
so go ahead, man, We're gonna go along today. This is
1:12:09
great. Yeah, no, that's good. Hey, laughing's healthy. I
1:12:11
appreciate that laugh. But JSN would be the only guy on Seattle even I
1:12:16
don't know, I guess I even with Locke, he's fine, Like they're
1:12:19
still going to drop back. The price is fine. Who's in his range?
1:12:23
Jaysn's the only interest there as far as san fran Definitely, I don't
1:12:28
have as much interest in Party now as I did earlier in the week because
1:12:30
I'm scared Seattle can't keep up. Like I like Kid a Lot, I
1:12:34
like Auk, I like Debo. You play party, you can double stack
1:12:38
hum easy, but I'm scared that Seattle can't keep up. You do get
1:12:42
the leverage off of McCaffrey, so it all makes sense. However, that
1:12:45
means Seattle has to do something. I don't see that happening. Probably not
1:12:48
much party for me. I like Kit a Lot again, those Kelsey Laportous
1:12:53
Kittles flip the build. Everyone wants to spend up at running back. You
1:12:57
need savings. Tight End is a position a lot of people will go to.
1:13:00
Kittle has that one hundred plus two touch on upside to completely nuke the
1:13:03
tight end position. So love him CMC. I mean, dude's a complete
1:13:08
stud. I don't he really need to go in depth with that he's way
1:13:11
too cheap on dk FanDuel, he's ten to five and he doesn't fit the
1:13:15
scoring as well. So if you want lower ownership, definitely lower on FanDuel
1:13:18
and KANUK. Yeah, I mean the San Fran team I think is gonna
1:13:21
put a beat down. They're gonna score points. So I'm still fine with
1:13:26
you with the Kittle with the pass catchers there, I do prefer them not
1:13:30
with Purty as much, though. What are your thoughts on pretty Tambo and
1:13:32
I guess if you are playing them, would you make sure to have a
1:13:34
run back to have it somewhat close. I won't really do the run back
1:13:40
as often in this. I like the run back in the secondary stacks like
1:13:43
I like the CEA or sorry, the CECH, the CMC with the JSN
1:13:46
run back, and I like the reason I brought up to the CCH because
1:13:48
someone brought it up earlier. Was a good point. And Mayo and I
1:13:51
had this on the Friday Show. If you have Cech in your flex spot,
1:13:55
which most probably will, you can swap him to JSN if you just
1:13:59
have the jitters. If you're duped to somebody you're thinking you're the same.
1:14:01
It's one hundred bucks less to go to JSN if you want, I will
1:14:04
kick at the hoop on this song because he's usually been the even the Dak
1:14:08
whisper. I had Pretty in that lineup with Debo last week. Obviously get
1:14:12
the job done. But forty six and a half point total, Man,
1:14:15
forty of these might be long to the forty nine ers today, they still
1:14:18
got to put up the points. Remember, for it to be a blow.
1:14:20
We just talked about CMC, you know, but you could have just
1:14:25
pretty throw to these dudes and have them do the work. Again. We
1:14:27
saw it with Dak. Remember all those games that you were on Dak and
1:14:30
others were doubting him. You're like, they still have to score for it
1:14:32
to be the blow. Like this still has almost a forty seven point total.
1:14:35
I don't see how Seattle does much in this one, as opposed to
1:14:39
when we like them a little bit. There was no way they could score
1:14:42
the points last time out here. Actually think there is no way. So
1:14:45
we'll see. What do you think of this game? Though? Where are
1:14:45
you at with this one? Yeah? The point that you brought up,
1:14:48
where the total in this game is forty six, The forty nine ers are
1:14:51
protected to score thirty. Okay, that's a touchdown higher than everyone on the
1:14:56
slate except the Chiefs. Like, no one is within seven of the forty
1:15:00
nine ers today in terms of their projected output. The Chiefs are projected to
1:15:05
score twenty five. That's the second closest on the slate. Like, I
1:15:09
want heavy exposure to the forty nine ers. Is there risk here? Absolutely?
1:15:14
I mean they could easily be up twenty eight to nothing at halftime,
1:15:17
but they still are gonna try to score some points. I want exposure to
1:15:23
all sides of this one. You know, McCaffrey obviously is the clear play
1:15:27
here, but you know Purdy aok, Samuel Kittle. I want that mixed
1:15:31
up as many ways as possible. It's just too good of a spot.
1:15:39
The Seattle side band, I mean, it would just be JSIGN at forty
1:15:42
one hundred. Don't love it, but man, like, I'll keep them
1:15:46
in the mix. I don't want anyone else, So, I mean it
1:15:49
just seems like a well, it is really bad spot. It's gotta be
1:15:51
one of the toughest spots in football right now, you know, going into
1:15:55
San Francisco. But I definitely want the pretty stuff. I want the McCaffrey
1:15:59
stuff. This team's just rolling right now. Yeah to the titles earlier point.
1:16:02
I guess the last thing I'll say is if I if I'm going the
1:16:04
Purty side, and I am. I don't mind if I got land on
1:16:08
a Lockett or a Metcalf, I'll still be fine with it as long as
1:16:11
it's with it. It's kind of like my Kieran Williams thing earlier. I
1:16:13
know it's off the board, but that's just a way to get completely different
1:16:15
within the game already, and I think most just assume CMC or nothing,
1:16:19
or Purty with no runback, or Purty with the obvious runback of JSN,
1:16:24
who people want to play just because of his price, and he's gonna getting
1:16:26
a little bit more work lately. I got no problem seeing them focus in
1:16:29
on a guy like Metcalf or whatever, but I treat him like an Evans
1:16:31
where I think it's going to involve someone I'm not playing Gino Smith or Drew
1:16:35
Lock if it ends up being Drew Locked. So I'm gonna stick with the
1:16:39
party side and just use it in that way. So this is definitely true.
1:16:42
Our guy Derek's been coming through with the heat today. Forty nine ers
1:16:45
don't give a shit about any other team's feelings. They'll put up fifty.
1:16:47
They might be forty plus of these forty seven points, it's definitely true.
1:16:51
They got no reason not to, and that's really the case. They got
1:16:54
to keep it going. So title, I'm gonna kick it to you on
1:16:57
this one, third last game of the slate. Boy, Jefferson, you
1:17:00
said it earlier. He's back, Dobbs in the mix. We got Hawkinson,
1:17:03
we got Jacobs, Adams forty and a half point total only, but
1:17:08
man, it feels like there could be a little something here. It's an
1:17:10
interesting, at least afternoon slay game. How are you handling this one?
1:17:14
I mean, it's in a dome with zero ownership. Jefferson's back. I
1:17:18
get the no ownership on the Vegas side, it's a tougher to get there.
1:17:21
I don't like it. Like maybe you said you had one running back
1:17:25
name and you haven't mentioned it yet, or at least you haven't said that
1:17:27
it's been yours. I'm wondering if it's Josh Jacobs. I don't think it
1:17:30
is. I do like him, actually, but the trio was it was
1:17:33
mixing earlier. I like Kamara mixing CMC as a way just to get different
1:17:40
when everyone's got the Cechs and the Mosses, or at least one of mixed
1:17:43
in. But I do think I like it. You go ahead with him,
1:17:45
But I think Jacobs again is to me, he's like a Kieran Williams
1:17:48
here where I kind of want him more in Dobbs Stacks. I want him
1:17:53
to speed shit up at home and then Dobbs and them have to come chuck
1:17:56
in the other way. That's what I want to see. Yeah, I
1:18:00
prefer him to like it's in a dome, so like I could get behind
1:18:01
Jacobs more like a contrarian DeVante more than like. I didn't like Hiring as
1:18:06
much as stuff the weather game that way. But I do like Jake.
1:18:09
I think he's interesting for this. I love justin Jefferson. The dude's five
1:18:13
percent own at eighty five hundred. I think he's one hundred percent healthy.
1:18:15
I think he could have played last week. I think they're just really being
1:18:19
cautious with him where they are in the playoff picture right now. Do want
1:18:23
to rush him back five percent? Him and dos Dobbs is gonna be what
1:18:26
five percent two or something along those lines ten percent. Let's say Jefferson,
1:18:30
Dobbs, whatever it may be. He's shown some rushing upside. Now he's
1:18:32
got his best weapon back, he's got Hawkinson still if you want to go
1:18:36
Contrarion's tight end there. Basically in this game, though I'm playing Dobbs,
1:18:40
I'm playing Jefferson. I'm good with just that skinny stack and figuring the rest
1:18:44
out good if you want to go in Adams a Jacobs, I would prefer
1:18:47
Jacobs. I think they'll be very low. They'll have to be low on
1:18:50
it their running back position now, but it really Dobbs Jefferson and figure the
1:18:56
rest out is how I'm approaching it. But I love that that's skinny.
1:18:59
Said. Yeah, and if you guys are just joining us now over seven
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Hoop, I'll kick it to you. The chat did say one thing,
1:19:23
this is like I think I landed on this in a couple spots. It's
1:19:26
ugly. But if you want to play the Vikings d with Madison again,
1:19:30
I only do it if I'm doing it that way because I need like a
1:19:32
if this then that versus like a Madison one off, I prefer, but
1:19:36
I prefer the Dobs side of things here. I'm with everything. The title
1:19:39
said Jefferson at just eighty five hundred, I say, just what's the work?
1:19:44
Like it's his first game, Mac. I actually think he was fine
1:19:45
to play, and they just were gonna actually thought they might hold him out
1:19:47
completely, But then they went and got jobs and things still kind of went
1:19:50
their way a little bit, where like, oh we're two, we're in
1:19:53
too deep to go completely backwards. Why not move forwards. Let's bring them
1:19:58
back and let's go. So I thought it was done too and the best
1:20:00
ball it was gonna change everything, Like if it wasn't Dobbs and getting getting
1:20:03
some wins, I thought for sure he was going to be shut down.
1:20:05
Oh yeah, it'd percent only eighty five hundred, That is only eighty five
1:20:10
hundred. That's all I see it. It is, Yeah, go ahead,
1:20:14
do you talk about this here? What do we got? And I'm
1:20:15
in on Jefferson for sure. I mean eighty five hundred. We talked about
1:20:18
it a little bit on the Cash Game Show, but you know that's more
1:20:21
folks, definitely not a cash game play. But for tournaments five percent.
1:20:25
Justin Jefferson eighty five hundred, I'll be overweight, There's no doubt about that.
1:20:30
Uh. I like Dobbs as well. And then I do like Josh
1:20:32
Jacobs. I mean, twenty six touches, twenty five touches. I believe
1:20:36
last time out sixty nine hundred won't get much ownership. I think he's a
1:20:42
really good running back play today at that low ownership number. But there's really
1:20:45
nothing else for me. It's Jefferson and it's Jacobs. And then you know,
1:20:49
maybe some Dobbs to Jefferson. Dwayne thinks that there could be some late
1:20:55
steam. I don't think so. With late swap. I mean maybe,
1:20:58
but I don't think stuff maybe and all that, but I just again,
1:21:00
I still don't see it either. Danny, I've been live this whole time,
1:21:03
my friend, So again congrats to you, but we'll get it after
1:21:06
the show. Everybody always gets taken care of as soon as we get off.
1:21:11
And see, I'm trying to be nicer, Craig. That's why I'm
1:21:13
nice to Danny, just letting him know the truth. I'm nice to everybody.
1:21:15
I'm trying to be super nice on this show. Now. I'm not
1:21:17
gonna tell people to take a hike. We're happy you're here joining us on
1:21:20
a Sunday. I just truly think it's the holidays, it's the season of
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giving. We're giving back. Plenty members are giving back from the community.
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Very simple to do, takes two seconds. Hit the like button and you're
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two x and boom, you're right back to live. So lots that we
1:21:40
can do. Dustin brought it up though, Hoop. That was the other
1:21:42
key point before I get your takes on Buffalo, Kansas City. But your
1:21:45
low owned Jacobs man, that's sixty nine hundred. Talk about a nice price,
1:21:49
six nice dollar Josh Jacobs. Yeah, I'm in, definitely in.
1:21:55
Let's run it back all let's go to a similar afternoon spot. We'll save
1:22:00
Buffalo, Kansas City for Last is what everybody wants, and we'll go there
1:22:03
at the end. Little teaser there and the biz, you know, a
1:22:06
little marketing move you could keep them sticking around to get the final takes.
1:22:10
Denver and the Chargers who talk to me about this one, it kind of
1:22:14
squeezes in between and reminds me a little bit of Minnesota and Las Vegas,
1:22:17
where it's like a similar total two teams that you're like, I could see
1:22:21
it. Maybe not, maybe just take some pieces your boy Russ though,
1:22:25
you know, he kind of came through last week with another eighteen point game.
1:22:29
But what are we doing here with Denver Lac? What do you got
1:22:31
with this one? Yeah? On the Denver side, Javonte Williams, maybe
1:22:36
I don't know what I'm gonna do with him at this point, but I
1:22:40
do like Sutton. I mean Sutton sixty one hundred. He does have a
1:22:42
lot of upside. I mean he's their number one red zone target that him
1:22:45
and Russ have a good connection. I do think the sixty one hundred price
1:22:49
tags fair should be low owned, so I will get some Sutton on the
1:22:53
Charger side. I mean that Austin Eckler report, it's just I don't know.
1:22:57
I mean, they're gonna mix in three running backs now and play the
1:23:00
hot hand. If that's true, it's obviously very worrisome for a guy like
1:23:03
I really wasn't playing him anyway, but the price on FanDuel was a little
1:23:06
appealing, like seventy five hundred. I don't know if I'll get there now,
1:23:11
but Keenan Allen is the obvious clear play in this game that no one
1:23:14
else to really throw the ball to. You could wrack up a ton of
1:23:16
targets, a ton of receptions and has the touchdown upside. I don't mind
1:23:21
Herbert on FanDuel, where the price is pretty cheap relatively speaking, seventy what
1:23:28
is it seventy seventy eight hundred, So a little bit of him over on
1:23:31
FanDuel, won't be playing him on DK. Yeah, this isn't a great
1:23:35
game. Favorite play Keenan Allen, Coroland Sutton and then maybe a little Javanti
1:23:41
Williams and then Herbert on FanDuel. Yeah, quick note, so Flacco officially
1:23:45
starting and Tee Law officially starting for Jacksonville, so he is going to get
1:23:48
in there with that. What is it? Six days seven days off?
1:23:53
A high ankle sprain or whatever it is, maybe six So yeah, either
1:23:55
way, wild stuff. Title. I don't got much in this game,
1:23:59
but I will say, like, there's some spots here, right I'm gonna
1:24:00
stack up the Wilson side some. I'm okay with that, even if it's
1:24:03
just with Sutton. I like Everett a little bit, but only in these
1:24:08
game stacks or a secondary of something like that. I'm okay with defense.
1:24:12
I think Denver would be fine if you wanted to go there, but I
1:24:15
don't have as much. On the other side, I like the Keenan Allen
1:24:16
call from whop. It's eighty six hundred, so it's expensive to get to.
1:24:20
Maybe Geyiton, who's only thirty two hundred you could take a shot on.
1:24:24
But I don't love this spot compared to some of the others on the
1:24:27
slate. I will have some, but I'm saying it's not my favorite spot
1:24:30
to go to. We'll get to that final game in a second. Let
1:24:31
Title talk through this one first. What do you got? Yeah, no,
1:24:34
I'm with you. I don't like this game much like Keenan would be
1:24:36
my favorite at eighty six, but if people spend up a receiver, I
1:24:41
think that's probably who they go to most. And I love Justin Jefferson.
1:24:44
I mean, it ain't no secret. He's eighty five hundred, so probably
1:24:46
won't have as much keenan. Yeah. I like Everts Fine thirty four hundred,
1:24:50
punt tight end, Javante fine, I guess running backs loaded though Sutton
1:24:56
sixty one, Judy forty, like Pilant, any of these guys, last
1:25:00
piece fine, but more most of my lineups. I don't want any part
1:25:03
of this game or literally just a one off that fits. Okay, let's
1:25:08
go to this last game before we do, because we're gonna talk through it
1:25:11
all three of us here, But just throw in I'm curious, who wins
1:25:14
the Buffalo Kansas City game? And what is the score? Put it in
1:25:17
the chat. Who wins the Buffalo Kansas City game? And what is the
1:25:21
score that you've got? Throw that into the chat, Hoop. I'm actually
1:25:25
gonna start with you on this one because big boy game here, big boy
1:25:28
total forty nine, close spread, it's at Arrowhead, it's in Kansas City.
1:25:32
Really, a lot can go on in this game. In the spot
1:25:35
we've seen sometimes these two teams get together and they just explode. Other times
1:25:39
the defenses, take things personal, show up, keep this game in line,
1:25:43
and it's a lot of let's run everyone we can to keep the other
1:25:45
guy off the field. And how does that play out? So what's your
1:25:48
thoughts on how this game plays out and then apply it to DFS and let's
1:25:51
talk us through this game. Yeah, well, I think it starts with
1:25:56
Pachuco because it kind of eliminates one of the the game scripts that was easy
1:26:01
to envision because the Chiefs have been willing to do this all season where they
1:26:04
kind of ride Pachecko, you know, limit the passes for Patrick Mahomes.
1:26:11
I just don't think they're gonna be able to do that today, even if
1:26:14
you like Edwards Lair and think, you know, he can be comparable to
1:26:16
Pacheco, like I just I don't think that is the case. And I
1:26:19
think the Chiefs will have to pass the ball more today, which gives this
1:26:25
game the opportunity to be more of a shootout. And the nice thing if
1:26:30
you do play that game script is these pieces are not coming in very highly
1:26:33
owned at all. I mean on the bill side, single digit ownership on
1:26:38
everybody across the board. Josh Allen, Stefan Diggs Gabe Davis, Shakiir who
1:26:44
I like, and then Kim Kaid as well. You're talking all under ten
1:26:47
percent. And then on the chief side, like a lot of people are
1:26:53
just going cheap at quarterback. So Mahomes, I don't think it's much of
1:26:56
it. As much as you don't like him. I know he hasn't been
1:26:59
on the winner all that often, and this season I think a lot of
1:27:01
that is because of Pacheco. I think Mahomes has more upside today. Rice
1:27:08
is going to be popular. Rice will get some ownership, but he's been
1:27:10
the number one Edwards Hilaire is going to get some ownership. But with that
1:27:15
report, maybe you might bright though maybe people just don't adjust me it's too
1:27:17
late in the week. I do like McKinnon though a little bit more now,
1:27:20
and then Travis Kelcey where a lot of people just go cheap at tight
1:27:25
end. I want exposure to this game in a big way. And you
1:27:29
know, you look at it, if you look at the slate, you
1:27:30
would say, without looking at prices or anything, you'd say, all right,
1:27:33
Bill's Chiefs. It's gonna be the highest owned game by far, you
1:27:36
know, on the slate, and it's just simply not the case. So
1:27:40
goal for me is just get overweight on this game, and you know,
1:27:43
maybe we do get that shootout. I think the potential is there. Forty
1:27:45
eight and a half total. The Chiefs obviously would prefer this to be an
1:27:50
ugly, grinded out game. They've won a lot of games this season playing
1:27:55
that that style play. I just don't think they can do it today.
1:27:57
So I think this game does have the shootout potential for us is I think
1:28:00
all pieces are relatively low on. Yeah, I do think you're right on
1:28:03
that. It looks like again only really Ceh and Rice is what I would
1:28:08
see where you're getting ownership here, and there's lots of ways that you can
1:28:11
work with that. I got some takes. I want to get titles thoughts
1:28:14
here. First title, where you're at with this game? A lot of
1:28:15
what looks like overs. It seems pretty equal on the sides, though,
1:28:19
which should I mean, it's a one and a half point total. You
1:28:21
could see it go either way, but a lot of close games and a
1:28:25
lot of overs is what I'm seeing. How do you see it? And
1:28:28
then what's your take from a DFS perspective? Yeah, no, it straw
1:28:31
nothing jumped out and I saw the total of the spread. I think it's
1:28:34
pretty fair as far as dfs. Yeah, I mean this game, you
1:28:39
look at the total of the two teams everything, you'd expect it to get
1:28:42
ownership. It's just not gonna it's I can't really, I'm not getting in
1:28:45
the Buffalo side. I wish I did, Like Dig's gonna be solo owned,
1:28:48
Josh is gonna be low owned, k Kate's fifty five hundred though Knox
1:28:53
is going to be back. Gaye Davis has his games like it's just so
1:28:56
hard for me to pinpoint where it's gonna be. And you're spending a lot
1:29:00
when you play Josh, you're spending a lot for sure. I don't like
1:29:02
Diggs, Sure Bud, he's very expensive as well. So I find myself
1:29:06
more on the Chief side. And I don't know what I'm doing though with
1:29:10
this. McKinnon h though I came in just planning it was gonna be CH's
1:29:14
show. McKinnon mixing a little bit. I love Ch for the price.
1:29:17
I like Mahomes. I think No Pacheco is a huge boost for Mahomes.
1:29:20
I think it has to you have to pencil in more dropbacks a close game,
1:29:25
like if they are splitting McKinnon and Thch, I expect Mahomes to even
1:29:29
drop back more because I think they want McKinnon in space, have him catching
1:29:32
passes and not running through the tackles. So I'm gonna be playing Mahomes.
1:29:36
You can go Kelsey, you can go Rice if you really want to get
1:29:40
crazy, I mean, you can definitely play him with McKinnon. Like when
1:29:43
I go Mahomes, I'm gonna be playing some McKinnon. Now. I'm kind
1:29:45
of treating him as a pass catcher in that outside of Kelsey and Rice,
1:29:50
I don't know, like justin Watson at thirty six hundred, maybe on slates
1:29:54
like this, And if I am playing Mahomes, why not throw in a
1:29:58
really cheap putt receiver. No one's gonna be And we just saw Watson fall
1:30:00
in the box twice before, so probably would be my lea. Probably will
1:30:04
be in my pool. I won't that much. I like Mahomes, which
1:30:08
means I'll definitely be playing Kelsey. Contrarian route. You go Mahomes, Kelsey,
1:30:12
you have to get on a different roster construction fake Kamara, CMC,
1:30:15
et cetera. Rice will be popular. I don't. I still think he's
1:30:19
fine as a one off receiver, is really tough. I definitely still like
1:30:21
him in the homes stacks. McKinnon cch. I don't know. I want
1:30:25
you guys to touch on that because we just got the news throughout the show.
1:30:29
But what's your plan because I have no clue what I'm doing it in
1:30:30
that run now, I'll just me I'll just touch on it first because I
1:30:33
was thinking about it as you were talking. Most running backs in the NFL
1:30:38
are splitting in some way, shape or form, Like there's not many guys
1:30:41
that are getting all the work and Edward Hilaires forty two hundred, McKinnon is
1:30:46
forty eight hundred, so you're getting probably the entire backfield for I mean,
1:30:50
what's their combined prices? Like not nine k? Yeah, they're both to
1:30:55
me, now that I think about this a little bit more, even if
1:30:57
they are splitting, they're both individually good plays. That's that's if you're assuming
1:31:01
they're splitting, like I don't, I find it hard to believe that they're
1:31:05
they're splitting. If Edwards Layer comes in and he's effective, I think he
1:31:10
still has a chance to get the Pacheco role. Is it as slam dunk
1:31:14
as I thought coming into the show, Probably not, But at forty two
1:31:15
hundred, I'm still in on him, and then I'll be in a McKinnon
1:31:20
as well. I think they're both individually solid options. You're gonna make a
1:31:25
rule to max one. I take it, but that's the p Yeah,
1:31:29
yeah, I mean yeah, maybe, I mean nine. Yeah, yeah,
1:31:32
probably I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Definitely if I'm hand building, I
1:31:36
would not. You definitely don't don't play, but yeah, I don't think
1:31:39
many people would. Yeah, one fifty, I don't know. It's not
1:31:43
that like you said, you are talking about it one of the best offenses.
1:31:46
If it is a fifty to fifty split they combined for nine K,
1:31:49
you can get it. But the running back room is so loaded on this
1:31:53
plot, so loaded that's probably would need a big score. You need big
1:31:56
scores at running back today, so it's probably definitely not optimal. You can
1:32:00
get like eight to one on a single game parlay. I just looked it
1:32:03
up of like Mahomes throwing three touchdowns three hundred plus yards and the Chiefs win,
1:32:10
that all those are gonna come true. I think if the Chiefs win.
1:32:12
There you go. You don't have to figure all this shit out to
1:32:15
get right and win a tournament with it. So just do that. You're
1:32:16
probably gonna make great money today. So just I looked it up for you
1:32:19
already. It's the case. Honestly, I'm making the joke as always,
1:32:23
the never Mahomes thing. I think on FanDuel, the way pricing is set
1:32:27
up, and it's like you're looking for those touchdowns you can touchdown hunt On
1:32:30
DraftKings though, it's like really tricky where you have to be almost perfect.
1:32:32
You can't get away with much. There's a lot to do with it.
1:32:34
I still am gonna keep them out of my DraftKings pool, just again a
1:32:39
lot of other factors. I'm actually playing the Josh Allen side. I like
1:32:42
it a little bit better. And two things I want to touch on here
1:32:45
that both coincide around the same situation. It came out about an hour ago.
1:32:47
We thought it was happening anyway, But Dawson Knox will play, and
1:32:51
I think a lot of people are worried about Kincaid because of that. Now
1:32:56
you can be worried because there could be a vulture touchdown, of course,
1:32:59
or two, But I don't think that's really what you're playing Kinkaid for.
1:33:02
And I don't think they're just shutting down the operation on Kinkaid. He's like
1:33:06
a slot type guy. We've said this since day one when they were both
1:33:10
in. They're using him totally different. He can still get you like eight
1:33:13
catches for eighty yards and maybe get one of the touchdowns, even though Knox
1:33:16
does take one away. I like Davis. I think in this situation a
1:33:19
little bit like Buffalo Philly a couple weeks ago, where both teams knew what
1:33:25
to do. Let's take out AJ Brown, Let's take out Stefan Diggs,
1:33:30
and sure enough you've got Davis and Devonte Smith coming through. I'm not saying
1:33:33
it's gonna be a repeat. I'm thinking of how you can work through it,
1:33:35
though I think Davis still fits into that. I think Rice, and
1:33:40
for good reason, fits into that. How do you chop down some of
1:33:43
the Rice ownership. You go with a stack of Allen Gabe, Davis and
1:33:47
Rice, and if you want to chop it down further, you can get
1:33:49
a Kinkaid in there or something like that. So I'm all for the side
1:33:54
of the stacks. It gives you late slop opportunity in the back. If
1:33:58
you want to like the back end of the slate, you can move things
1:34:00
around. And then secondly, this one's disgusting, but I definitely think it's
1:34:03
possible here. Man, Like, the best thing to do in Arrowhead is
1:34:08
to keep Mahomes off the field as long as you can. Again, everyone
1:34:12
sees Dawson Knox back and immediately goes to the King Kaid stuff thinking about how
1:34:15
that's gonna screw him up. Don't forget what Dawson Knox does extremely well,
1:34:19
one of the best blocking tight ends in the league. That's gonna make room
1:34:24
for the running game and James Cook in these game stacks or setting it up
1:34:28
like a James Cook Buffalo de He's opposite side of your Ceh McKinnon decision.
1:34:33
You get a guy like him in there, or you want to put Latavius
1:34:36
Murray. I'm just throwing the crazy stuff out there, but I do definitely
1:34:40
think that Dawson Knox being back helps the Bills be able to run the ball
1:34:44
a little bit more and that could contribute to an under as well. In
1:34:46
this game where you just get both sides with Pachecko and McKinnon, and you
1:34:51
have a guy like Cook getting better blocking and stuff in there where just runs
1:34:55
the clock a little bit more. So I will say that as my final
1:34:58
thoughts there. Title final thoughts on that, and then your final thoughts on
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that tomorrow as far as I'm definitely excited for this late though. Everything will
1:35:42
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1:35:45
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running back rooms loaded multiple ways to go cheap QBS, expensive QBS tight
1:36:00
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1:36:02
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1:36:06
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1:37:29
what do you got? Yeah, just it's kind of setting opening it.
1:37:31
It's a good slate, very dynamic, a lot of different ways to
1:37:34
go. But you know, we kind of touched on that throughout the show.
1:37:38
I think what you do at wide receivers the make or break today.
1:37:41
So you know, wide receiver is a very important position, So make sure
1:37:45
pay close attention to what you do there. Yeah, and you think the
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you're comfortable there. And then you're gonna different in that spot with some of
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