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AEW Hot Topics | AEW Worked Us? · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: All right, it's Tuesday, and you know what that means.
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  Speaker 1: Another edition of Ignition, brought to you by the AW
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  Speaker 1: Fanhud podcast team, and we do have a couple of
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  Speaker 1: things that have discussed this evening. I wanted to start
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  Speaker 1: off with the low hagging fruit, I mean Jericho versus
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  Speaker 1: Cardona that I know we're talking with this AW podcast, right,
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  Speaker 1: we should be talking about AW things, but we're actually
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  Speaker 1: talking about GCW things. So, you know, about three weeks ago,
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  Speaker 1: we had all that controversy with Ricky Starks and Willie
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  Speaker 1: Mack getting pulled out of all those GCW events, and
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  Speaker 1: that both companies just kind of let the internet like fumigate,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they let it boil on this and everyone
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  Speaker 1: was speculating that it might be politics or it might
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  Speaker 1: be an interview, and it turns out, guys, we got worked.
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  Speaker 1: Jericho shows up to GCW during Matt Cardona and Fie,
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  Speaker 1: both of which were contributing to the clout machine that was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the past three weeks of drama. And then
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  Speaker 1: Jericho shows up, clocks one, clocks the other and then
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  Speaker 1: drags one on the other and does his thing. I'llah, painmaker,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's done this come back a couple of times.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, guys, we got work all the time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we got worked.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.
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  Speaker 3: But Jericho needs to find something else to do surprises
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  Speaker 3: because that's what he always does. He unmasked Farewell, I'll
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  Speaker 3: do your mask whatever. But I liked it so so
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  Speaker 3: there's no disheartened there.
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  Speaker 4: But it was a good deal, great segment.
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  Speaker 5: I like the whole thing, just for the fact that
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  Speaker 5: Tony kompool one over on everybody. He said, you want
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  Speaker 5: to keep talking shit on me, I'll show you how
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  Speaker 5: to talk shit and he did it right.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, like not not to mention that
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  Speaker 1: that definitely establishes a working release in relationship with GCW,
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  Speaker 1: and they major league put that company over. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: their social media is blew up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he talked they might be signing Cardona.
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  Speaker 1: I heard. I was about to bring that up. They
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  Speaker 1: it was mentioned that they offered him a uh, they
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  Speaker 1: offered him a contract, but I believe that was more
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  Speaker 1: of a connotation for ring of honor, you know, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I not that I think that wouldn't be an upgrade
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  Speaker 1: having him on a you know, a program, But that's
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  Speaker 1: a Jason d aw But to be honest with you, I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't sign the dudes at the top of his career.
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  Speaker 1: He's worked every single in d promotion. He's thirty five
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars just for showing up per diam. I mean, like,
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  Speaker 1: and he's doing why go ahead?
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  Speaker 3: I disagree. I think it's a great move for him.
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  Speaker 3: What else is he gonna do on the nd scenes,
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  Speaker 3: He's done it all, he's been with GCW, he's been around.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think I would do a poer
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  Speaker 3: appearance contract with him and and they still sell his
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  Speaker 3: merchandise and stuff and let him run as have him
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  Speaker 3: beat Jericho and then let him run with that title
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  Speaker 3: because he he's the biggest stars Jericho is. In my opinion,
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  Speaker 3: he's younger, and Erico is not able to carry that
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  Speaker 3: or olish for long. I mean, he's he's great at
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  Speaker 3: what he does. And I guarantee you this whole GCW
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  Speaker 3: was was Jericho's idea. But I mean I think needs
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  Speaker 3: uh Matt Cardona and he could use it too.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I honestly a hot take. I think Jericho
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  Speaker 1: has been cooked for years. The dude starting to look
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  Speaker 1: like a soccer momb more between programs every single program.
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  Speaker 1: Not that I'm not in love with the idea, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't agree that I they don't think that Matt
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  Speaker 1: Cardona is a much bigger star, But I mean at
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  Speaker 1: the same time, I mean, like the dude kids continue
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  Speaker 1: to lay a foundation and have and you know, a
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  Speaker 1: per appearance contract, which I think is a better idea
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  Speaker 1: than getting signed full time. I would say per you know,
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  Speaker 1: per appearance with the ability to do whatever the hell
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  Speaker 1: he wants on the indies. They don't stop any of
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  Speaker 1: their guys from selling our pro wrestling teas dot com
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  Speaker 1: or showing up the conventions.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it certainly seems like he enjoys working the dependence,
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  Speaker 6: but mk, I gotta agree with what you said earlier,
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  Speaker 6: like this is almost becoming too cliche for Jericho to
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  Speaker 6: show up hit the Judis Affect unmasked. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 6: it's Chris Jericho, Like, dude, you need to do something different,
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  Speaker 6: like maybe if you if you're gonna show up to
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  Speaker 6: another Promotions event or whatever hit like the Codebreaker or something,
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  Speaker 6: not just the Judics. Fact, that's just an idea.
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  Speaker 2: Why would you change something that works.
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  Speaker 7: Because it's getting still it's getting still it's getting.
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  Speaker 2: Listen. It still does what it's supposed to do.
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  Speaker 5: It it gets over the people, the crowds enjoy it.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if it's getting still to everybody. But
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  Speaker 2: it's not. It wasn't. It's not put out to the
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  Speaker 2: people who are fans of a W.
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  Speaker 5: That's to involve g c W and the thing everywhere
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  Speaker 5: he goes.
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  Speaker 4: But second Jericho got in the ring, you knew it
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  Speaker 4: was Jericho. You could see that.
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  Speaker 7: And he does the same thing when he does this
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  Speaker 7: thing unmasked after the judas No. Once, I agree, you
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  Speaker 7: should have done something like a code breaker or something
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  Speaker 7: like that, and it would have meant a lot more,
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  Speaker 7: had a lot more impact if he close on Cardona
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  Speaker 7: and then hit f with the code breaker because of
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  Speaker 7: all the stuff on social media, it would have just
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  Speaker 7: made the moment a lot more impact.
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  Speaker 5: Let me ask your question as you oh go ahead,
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  Speaker 5: how how much was that How much did that get?
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  Speaker 2: Did that improve g c everything g c W media right?
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  Speaker 2: Did it? Did it blow up their social media? Was
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  Speaker 2: it a big deal for j c W.
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  Speaker 5: Doesn't matter matter if people who are AW fans or
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  Speaker 5: other people who've seen Jericho all the time, it don't matter.
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  Speaker 5: It's not for you. It was did exactly what it
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  Speaker 5: was supposed to do. He comes into these into these small,
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  Speaker 5: not necessarily so small, but smaller independent places, and he
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  Speaker 5: does Jericho. People expect it from Jericho. He does what
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  Speaker 5: he does. Don't change something that works. That's that's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 5: If you're going to do that, what's the point and
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  Speaker 5: doing in the first place.
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  Speaker 6: Let me just clarify something super quick suitting. I'm not
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  Speaker 6: saying it was a bad like angle I it did
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  Speaker 6: exactly what you what the intention was. I totally agree.
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  Speaker 6: But at the same time, it's like, if you're doing
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  Speaker 6: the same thing every time, I feel like fans of
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  Speaker 6: whatever promotion, whether it's awgcw RINGA Bonn or WWE New Japan, whatever,
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  Speaker 6: are just gonna kind of grow tired of it and
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  Speaker 6: be like, Okay, I've seen this before, give me something different.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that.
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  Speaker 7: Is exactly what I've been saying. Thank you, Ron, thank
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  Speaker 7: you for that, because this.
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  Speaker 1: Is hold on though, let me expand on that. I
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  Speaker 1: have to expand on that. So I mean like that's
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  Speaker 1: per preference. I mean like there are people like I
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  Speaker 1: want to use Russell Media as an example, No one
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  Speaker 1: expected the Undertaker to be there, but when But did
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  Speaker 1: everyone pop the same exact way for the same entrance
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  Speaker 1: He's been doing literally yeah, since his debut in.
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  Speaker 4: No. First of All nineteen ninety well.
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  Speaker 1: Me and Mark Alloway. I was a little bit earlier,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm just I'm just saying, I'm making a point.
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  Speaker 1: It works for Jericho, not to mention it was intended
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  Speaker 1: to be fan service for everyone that has ever been
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  Speaker 1: waiting to see Jericho in an Indy. I have to
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  Speaker 1: agree with Suton, it's something that he's done for years.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, like we all pop for different reasons.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like Jericho till it gets a lot of
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  Speaker 1: unmitigated hate because his career had his career stagnated in
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  Speaker 1: aw It's not a secret, Like he's not reinventing himself
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  Speaker 1: twenty seven more times the dudes carried more titles than
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  Speaker 1: that in just a name, not even physically, I mean
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  Speaker 1: like not even physically world championships, like he's had twenty
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  Speaker 1: seven different classifications of Chris Jericho through through dozens of
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  Speaker 1: more of haircuts. I mean, like it works for him.
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  Speaker 3: That's who he is, no doubt also that I think
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  Speaker 3: it's not nitpicking to see how he did it, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad he did come up and I know it
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  Speaker 3: was Jericho once Tony conn and said, look, we can
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  Speaker 3: make money off of this, and that's what needs to
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  Speaker 3: happen when he put grudges' aside and we need to
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  Speaker 3: figure out what's best for business, and what's best for
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  Speaker 3: both businesses was in the find to work together. I
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: don't know if Effie will ever be on AWTV, but ever,
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  Speaker 3: I really do think that it's good for both of
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  Speaker 3: them to work together. And I don't know who's on
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  Speaker 3: that roster who well, I don't know who will congrate
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  Speaker 3: it back together, but if we work together, it makes
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  Speaker 3: wrestling better, and that's why we have to.
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  Speaker 2: What better way? What better you talk about?
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  Speaker 5: Everybody keeps saying that they gave Jericho the title because
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  Speaker 5: they're trying to get a TV deal. Okay, this work
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  Speaker 5: is the perfect way to get into a TV deal
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  Speaker 5: because Tony Coin proved that he can he can screw
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  Speaker 5: everybody with everybody's head without batting an eye, and everybody
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  Speaker 5: fell for it, everybody. And there's no better person that
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  Speaker 5: could have done that than than TK.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody.
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  Speaker 1: But just to expand on that as well. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you guys made it the max. You made the point
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  Speaker 1: of saying, like Jericho's presence was wasn't impactful. Excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: I was not being clear. It wasn't impactful. What was
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  Speaker 1: more impactful the Chris Jericho being the object or the
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  Speaker 1: fact that it happened in the first place, that we
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  Speaker 1: were completely worked for weeks and weeks and weeks and it
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  Speaker 1: was very well done.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, let me elaborate on that for you. Let
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  Speaker 4: me elaborate on.
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  Speaker 7: That, because no, but my thing, no, my thing is Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: the Jericho appearance to Jericho Swell was phenomenal. It did
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  Speaker 7: a mountain of good for g c W. And yes,
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  Speaker 7: I'll admit Tony Kahan worked us. I got worked by
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  Speaker 7: Tony Kahan and and as much as I hate admitting it.
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  Speaker 4: I'll give it. I'll give the guy his his flowers
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  Speaker 4: for that.
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  Speaker 7: He had the whole community, had the whole world on
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  Speaker 7: his head. But Jered, he does, he does. He does
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  Speaker 7: the same thing. It's the same Rinson repeat segment. He's
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  Speaker 7: done the same spot.
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  Speaker 3: Which he did.
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  Speaker 4: He does, That's what I was trying to say. He does,
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  Speaker 4: he does it so many.
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  Speaker 7: Times and it's and once again when he got in
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  Speaker 7: the ring, everyone knew it was Jericho, like there was
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  Speaker 7: no hiding it. But what I'm saying, what I'm saying
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  Speaker 7: is is it could have been executed slightly different for.
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  Speaker 5: Maximum effect, but it's not Jericho. It doesn't matter. It's like,
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  Speaker 5: like like Shane said, it's a it's a preferential thing.
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  Speaker 2: You want to see him do something different.
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  Speaker 5: I get that. Okay, it's getting it down for you.
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  Speaker 5: It's not always for you, it's not always for us.
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  Speaker 5: It wasn't for the a W folks. It was for
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  Speaker 5: gc W, plain and simple, and like Shane said, it
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  Speaker 5: was for the people at the at the ending that
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  Speaker 5: never ever expected to see Jericho and he showed up
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  Speaker 5: and he did Jericho thing and everybody knew it was Jericho.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the point.
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  Speaker 5: If he did something different, it wouldn't have had the
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  Speaker 5: same effect because it wouldn't have been Jericho.
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  Speaker 2: And the story, that's the way it works.
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  Speaker 6: The only pushback I have on that side is, while
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  Speaker 6: I get it, he's become kind of synonymous with the
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  Speaker 6: Judas effect since me into AW, when'd you also say that?
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  Speaker 4: Through throughout his.
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  Speaker 6: Career, a move like the Code breaker for it, just
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  Speaker 6: for example, has kind of been connected with Jericho for
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  Speaker 6: the most part. Would you agree with that statement?
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  Speaker 2: So is the Lion salt, So is the Lion tamer?
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  Speaker 3: So is he and that movie and that move literally
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  Speaker 3: hurts him more than any other movie he does.
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  Speaker 5: He's he's using the move that he uses now, that
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  Speaker 5: is his move. That is what he's doing at this
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  Speaker 5: point in time in his career. He's doing the Judice effect.
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  Speaker 2: Question.
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  Speaker 6: I was purely just asking a question.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, it's the same thing as going, okay, well, let's
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  Speaker 5: see Shawn Michaels comes to the ring, he surprises people,
• 12:44
  Speaker 5: comes out of the ring, and he does a kick.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, he does a super kick.
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  Speaker 5: Are you going to complain that he did his move
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  Speaker 5: that he's done for his entire career.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's what he does.
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  Speaker 5: So you don't have somebody come in and do something
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  Speaker 5: new when you're making a point.
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  Speaker 2: The point is they set Jericho in and they worked.
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  Speaker 5: Us hard, and this just the icing on top of
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  Speaker 5: the cake, on top of the other cake. They he
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  Speaker 5: did this. He did exactly what he's always gonna do.
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  Speaker 5: If he goes to MLW next month, he's gonna do
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  Speaker 5: the same thing if he goes to some other like
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  Speaker 5: anywhere you name the indie. If he goes to any indy,
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  Speaker 5: he's gonna do the same thing because that's his character.
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  Speaker 5: If he changes his character up again and he's no
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  Speaker 5: longer using the Judas off, he won't do that. But
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  Speaker 5: until then, he's gonna do what he's doing.
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  Speaker 1: Let's shift the uh, let's shift the conversation a little
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  Speaker 1: bit because we're kind of going around in circles. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, now, let's put up let's let's put Jericho
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  Speaker 1: behind us and talk about what this could be potentially
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  Speaker 1: for Ricky Starks.
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  Speaker 6: Yes please?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So like obviously, yeah, obviously knowing that we had
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  Speaker 1: all been worked by TK and this GCW thing might
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  Speaker 1: have been a ruse. Why do you think they pulled
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  Speaker 1: Ricky Starts from these events? Think it was an old
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  Speaker 1: bait and switch. We might be seeing Ricky Starks at
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  Speaker 1: World's End.
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  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 5: The weekend that they did all this, they had the
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  Speaker 5: g c W thing where everybody showed up. It was
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  Speaker 5: like that I can't remember what it's called, but it's
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  Speaker 5: like the hardcore matches. They had same difference having the
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  Speaker 5: same weekends.
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  Speaker 4: Are you talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think blood Sport was the last one. I
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  Speaker 1: believe this was just a normal they had.
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  Speaker 5: They had an event that everybody participated in Moxley. Was
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  Speaker 5: there a couple of the people a W were there
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  Speaker 5: at the same time this is going on?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: Was it the event at the American Dream one here
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  Speaker 7: in New Jersey? Was it that event because I'm I
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  Speaker 7: don't remember the name of it because I know Rick promo.
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  Speaker 4: G c W here in New Jersey.
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  Speaker 1: But it happened at Heist in the Room three the
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  Speaker 1: Ukrainian Culture Center of Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Anyway, the point was that there was an event
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  Speaker 5: going on with GCW that AW people participated in the
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  Speaker 5: same time that he started pulling He said, they were
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  Speaker 5: pulling out and he started the work. That's when it started.
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  Speaker 5: You'll know for certain that it's helping Ricky Stark. If
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  Speaker 5: this event next Friday or this Friday?
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  Speaker 2: Is it this Friday? Is this Friday? If it's this.
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  Speaker 5: Friday at at the pay per view, the ROS pay
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  Speaker 5: per view, if Starks gets involved in the main event,
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  Speaker 5: you'll know that it was a complete work and it's
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  Speaker 5: Ricky Starks. Was his pulling him out? Was all part
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  Speaker 5: of of the work. If he doesn't show up, then
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  Speaker 5: maybe there's something else going on. But that's how I
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  Speaker 5: think is what I think is going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's a couple of angles here, so they get
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  Speaker 1: Ricky Starks involved. Cardona was slamming Starks on social media like,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't need your you know, second grade fed here
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  Speaker 1: in GCW, stay where you belong on T and T
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  Speaker 1: and TBS. He was like, straight talking crap. You know
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  Speaker 1: this could be you know, for all we know that
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  Speaker 1: Cardona actually could have been signed and they could this
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  Speaker 1: could be the main program of r OH. That kind
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  Speaker 1: of lips lifts it off the ground. I mean better
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  Speaker 1: than you know. Cardona, Starks and Jericho together, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's sad. I think it's sad if they're pant pulling
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  Speaker 1: that attention away from Athena and you won't get any
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on that.
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  Speaker 3: How are they? How are they pulling it away? Then
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna main event.
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  Speaker 1: One more time?
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  Speaker 3: How are they going to pull away attention when Athena
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  Speaker 3: and Billy starts for a main eventing.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking in like the long term, I mean
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  Speaker 1: our Athena has been carrying ro O h I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if anyone deserves a professional wrestling accolade this year, it's
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  Speaker 1: the most tolerantly staffed, you know, women's wrestler on Earth. Athena.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I just think that deck can actually help Athena
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  Speaker 5: because honestly, to put the whole on her shoulders and
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  Speaker 5: make her carry it as much as they've made her
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  Speaker 5: carry it, and it's not like they're they're they're giving
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  Speaker 5: her other people opportunities. She's been the workhorse period, end
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  Speaker 5: of story. And if she if they lose her to
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  Speaker 5: an injury or something else, oh OAG is in serious trouble.
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  Speaker 5: So maybe this is a way for them to start
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  Speaker 5: bringing in some backup, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm.
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  Speaker 6: To follow up on that side. And if you remember
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: at Final Battle last year, who did Athena face Billy Starks,
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: who is a Theena facing it Final Battle this year again,
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: Billy Starks Like, maybe I'm pulling out Louise Straws by
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: bringing that up, but it's just interesting to me that
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: they're circling back to the same match, you know, a
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: year apart.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Basically, you know Rollin's I hear the fervorish tone in
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: your voice. Are you hoping for a Starks on Stark's
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Final Battle? Oh god, it's a serious question.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, Oh my god.
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: That's not where I was going with this. I swear
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: that's not where I was going with it. I will
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: not be able to watch Final Battle because I don't
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: have r O H TV and all that, so that
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: kind of sucks. But it's just kind of interesting to me,
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: like with this whole situation, to kind of circle back
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: to the whole Ricky point is like supposedly he's been
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: sitting on his hand saying no to everything Creative has
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: thrown at him, and now for him to suddenly get
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: back involved, doesn't that kind of raise an eyebrow a
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: little bit.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Of people's eyebrow. I mean, like to some degree, Yes,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep everybody lived, leave Temu Brand, Rock, Rocky,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Myvy alone. No, I think Ricky is like a legitimate general,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: like a genuine talent Rollins to your point, I mean, like, yeah,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I would raise an eyebrow, But like you know, this
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: could have been work. He could have been unhappy for
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: a short period of time. He could have been punished
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: and been in the twenty con doghouse, and finally you know,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: stood up and said, you know what, I want to
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: continue to wrestle. Let me get myself out of here
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: and and pull some strings. Or he could be writing
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: his own or if he could be writing his own
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: way out to NXT in three to.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Five, here's the scenario.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: Ricky Starks has been sitting out all this time, right,
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: and whether it be for punishment or just because he
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: didn't like his creative or whatever, but all of a sudden,
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: Tony starts to work with g. C W says, Listen, Ricky,
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: we need a seppure.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: We need a very.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: Good presence on R O H on the men's side,
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: to help bring R O H that side of the
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: roster up the par here's your chance. We're gonna put
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: you in this program. We're gonna make it look like
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: we're gonna we're just gonna screw you to death, and
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: you're gonna get involved with this with Cardona and Jericho,
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: and here's your opportunity.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't that help help start so much to get the
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: up and not only Cardona but Jericho also, and.
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but that far with Jered co in a w remember.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Now there's some heat behind it. Now he's been gone
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: a while, he says, you know what, you you're just here
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: for a cloud. You're here for whatever I've been sitting
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: on the show. I've I deserve it. You need to retire,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: you know. And Cardona say, look, I've done it better
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: than you. I've I've reached the heights that you never
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: will dream of because you can't and you're not as
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: good as me. And and a three way battle with
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: those three would be very fun to see.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: The only thing you're talking about two different companies. Whatever
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: Jericho Starts did in AW doesn't matter in r o H.
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you ask a question based off of that statement.
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: If let's say they go into this program, you don't
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: think the reference like anything they did on AW. You
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: don't think like if Starts in Jericho gains is something
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: on R o H.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: You don't think Starts.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: Would reference the fact that he beat Jericho twice, including
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: a resolution.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: He might, but it doesn't make any difference because it's
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: a brand new program, and I don't honestly, I don't
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: think Jericho is going to be involved in this for long.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: I think that's I personally think that Cardonian is going
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: to beat him on Friday, and that ends to Jericho's
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: rain run.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: In r O eight, Erico is stepping stone to get started,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: and if cards he will carry that.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's I mean, but look at all of
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Jericho's most monumental moments in the past two years, it's
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: with him be putting something like look at Action, Oh
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: my god, I had that Action and Drettie match where
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: people are just screaming let's go job or like my
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: guy like like it. It made it feel real. Let's
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: pivot speaking about things that are real or are not
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: and the distinction between someone perceiving them. We have Tony Storm,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: and it sure as hell looks like that she's developed
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: quite the personality disorder. I'm gonna stay the obvious. To me,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: it looks like they're running a mental health angle. Shocker uh.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: And it kind of like I like this young, aspiring
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I'm and new Tony Storm character seems to be like
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: like they might have beaten the childishness back into her.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Either that or they're gonna run a multiple personalities angle.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: And what's wrong with that?
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Nothing?
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: Absolutely nothing. I love it. It's hilarious to me, but
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: in the best way. It's just like, wait, it's like
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: Tony is God so insane. She's forgotten the kind of
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: who she is.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: I told her said, like I said on the subreddit,
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: this isn't this isn't a mental illness. This is a
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: complete psychotic break.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Match. Her losing that match to for the title, that
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: was it.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: It put her.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: She's gone, there's no more. It's it's now. You're not
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: going to see a multiple personality Tony Storm. She's gone back.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: She don't have a nie, she just has gone back
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: to who she was in the past. It's a complete
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: and honestly, it's a freaking great move. I think this
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: is one of the good She had the best story
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: of the year, and it's getting better.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Well, I do want to point out I don't think
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: it kicked I kicked her. I think it kicked her
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a little further back than where she was when she
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: became timeless Tony Storm. I do want to point out
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: two things. One bye by technicality, if this is the
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Tony Storm we have now, it actually means a timeless
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Tony Storm retired from professional wrestling. Yeah, it's like this
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: is the modern day Cactus Jack dude love and I'm
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: just like eating up right, I'm eating it up.
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: Like.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: Secondly, that that's fun. Is something you said super quick,
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: which is I think she actually believes it's twenty twenty
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: two because I think it was on collision. She kind
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: of pro she goes Tony Storm is all elite like
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: on the backstage pro bo, she's like introducing herself to
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: thunder Rosa and she's reintroducing herself to Tony Shabani. So you
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: might be right that this is like that. It's not
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: a mental.
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: No no no, it is no what Tony's happening is
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: And I saw this when she returned. When she returned,
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: she was making all the timeless like she had all
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: the timeless face facial expressions. I think Tony Storm is
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: having a full blown mental brewn she's gone to say.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: I really think she's using this to her advantage because
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: if you look at some of her body movements too,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: she tried to go into his Tony Storm move when
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: she went into went to the corner to go do
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: the hip attack, and then she went back into into
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: what she was doing. I think she's used this to
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: her advantage and get people off guard and thinking she's
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: doing this and she's gonna come back as thomless. Tony
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Storm eventually she's uses. It's not a mental thing. It's
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: it's a mental chest thing.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Well wait a minute, we're saying that this is the
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: psychotic break and not her becoming timeless Tony Storm after
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: being an outcast. I would have said the psychotic break
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: was joining a faction with Soriah because she's doing such
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: a bang up job right now.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Well so right, you can't.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: Really that's not her. That's on that's on the that's
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: on the that's on the booking thing. I mean she
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: should be. And again that was something that was brought up.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: I was going to use as a popourri later. I
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: don't want to talk about it now, but this is
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: a perfect example of what is majorly wrong with the
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: women's division.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: They don't use you, You got to give.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, the person that needs the most credit to
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: this isn't Tony Storm, isn't Tony con It's RJ City
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Because the baby, this dude, this dude was insane. He
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: needs to be put full time booker, full time story wrater.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: Get this dude a job doing for everybody, because if
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: he could do the same for everybody in the company, oh.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: My god, this would be an unbelievable.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, let's stick it. Let him coach the women,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: like if he's doing such an effective job, like they
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: couldn't use like a little more. I'm not saying they
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: could use more structure. The whole entire company could use
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: so much structure. Structure, dude, but like I mean RJ
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: City Rules I turned it to.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: I don't downplay what the Women's Vision is doing, though
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: they have some great You know, Harley Cameron is doing
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: her thing, making people laugh, her little comment on the
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: on the break of We'll turn from these messages after
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: she figures out who she is and stuff like that,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: She's doing great. Anna Jay is doing great. I don't
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: want to downplay what the Women's Vision is doing. Yes,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: there are some people who can do better, but Sarria's
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: had her run and I think she's just there to
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: help so she doesn't need much. But the Women's Vision
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: is doing good. They could do better, but they are
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: doing phenomenal what they're doing. Her game.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I will say straight up that AW has one of
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: the most the poorest booking efforts for the women, but
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the greatest women's locker room in professional wrestling. And though
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: they have all the best women's wrestlers on Earth next
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: bar a couple of women in CMLL and new stardom.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: But yeah, let's shift directions here. We are onto the
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Fatal four way. I'm personally sick of this feud and
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: want the belt to go on J White. But do
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: you guys think this is gonna work?
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: I do. I think there's gonna be some twist in
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: the tail that hasn't been revealed yet. It's interesting to
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: me that they're doing a trios match this tomorrow. I
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: guess on Dynamite it's gonna be Moxley, Wheeler and Claudia.
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: I think it is no pack. I'm sorry against J White, Orange,
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: Cassidy and Hangman. And you know they're gonna tell the
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: whole story of can they coexist? And it's like, uh, yeah,
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: they can coexist. I'm looking at them on my TV s.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: It's a typical It's a typical go home show where
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: you put everybody involved in the main event in a match,
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: except this.
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: Isn't the go home show because there's still two weeks
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: to go.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Are they actually gonna be airring? Are they going to
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: be airing aw Dynamite next week?
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be done on Sunday. I think it's taped
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: on Sunday. Ah, okay, because they're not.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Going to be all right.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: I was thinking this was the next nevermind.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Isn't that the Hammerstein Show? Isn't that answer?
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: I believe too.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Amaton's next week.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Look, it comes down to this.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: You can either enjoy what's going on with the Death
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: Riders or you can watch and just hang out and
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: watch it. I don't see anything wrong with it. It's
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: gonna be an interesting match. It's just gonna be it's good.
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: This match especially, it's gonna end up being a it's
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: just gonna be a banger. It's gonna go out, they're
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: gonna have everybody in the ring all the time. It's
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: gonna be a typical multimn match. It's not gonna prove anything.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: Can the four way work, It'll work.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: It's the it's the logical step.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: To involve a better class of people instead of going
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: after the young people like they were doing in the beginning.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: This is the next step.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: After this, It's gonna probably be Darby or somebody else
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: that's at that level. Hell, it could even be MGF,
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: who knows. But it's it's that factor. Where they're gonna
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: keep the title on mocks. I think he's gonna beat
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: Orange Cassidy again at the four way.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: That would mean a lot of room between Huh.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: He can't be for of their best. If he beats
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: for their best Queen, then the storyline needs to be
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: over less the Shenanigans involved. Then that puts who's left?
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, at some point it has to be the
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: give and take. And if you beat the four best,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: who's been a champion? Hey Man's been a champion? Are
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: two deserve to be champions? Orange Cassidy's done lost him
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: a couple of times? So what's the point? Who who
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: would be left? At some point? I think they're certainly
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: somebody else is going to join a lot of people
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: think FTR is going to join them. I don't know,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: but some we're going to turn the page somehow in
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: the storyline or else it's dead in the water.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: I disagree with that. Also, you still have the elite
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: that have to come back, and you have ind.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: There are so many people that could be involved with
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: the Death Riders. You could have FTR come out because
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: they've already got involved with them. So that's the next step.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: Instead of being against one person that's against the FTR
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: the next one after that or FTR in Derby.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Or anybody, they should win. There's no reason for John
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Moxley to be They're not a team. It's all the
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: goal is to get rid of.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: But you're not gonna have that's not gonna happen.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: What's gonna end up happening is and he's gonna pin
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: Orange Cassidy again, which is gonna leave the option for
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: the other two to have another shot.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: That's the logical path for this. There isn't.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: This is it's way, way, way, way way too early
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: to end the Death Riders and the storyline is going
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: on because then you've wasted six months of time on that.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: I agree right now you're spendings.
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: I mean, like I sudden, I boy agree with you
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: on this, and I said this last week and I'm
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: gonna continue to say it. The way they're setting up
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: this fatal four way based on how we got here
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: with you know, Jay Wayne uh Hangman having their two matches,
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: Moxley depending against Orange cast it feels like they're kind
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: of setting it up like WrestleMania thirty nine in the
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: respect that in that match for the Intercontinental Championship, Seamus
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: and Drew McIntyre kind of canceled each other out because
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: they were focused more so on each other than they
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: were on Dunther And in this match, I kind of
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: think it could go the same way where Jay White
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: and Hangman are kind of focused so much on each
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: other they kind of forget about Hangman or I'm sorry,
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: uh Moxley and Orange Cassie, do you at least see
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying there?
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: I fully agree with you Rowins, I agree.
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: It was a complete like there was a point counter
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: they counteracted each other exactly. I know, Den was the
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: same thing that's gonna happen with Hangman at them page
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: and Jay White it's the same thing. And then Orange
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: Cassidy he's gonna get I think either Da or whoever
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: is gonna run in and beat up on Cassidy.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Mar Well Kelson made a very good yeah. Kelson made
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: a very good point in the chat. He said, the
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: logical the only logical path to that is for one
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: of the three to turn on the other two. I mean,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: like and honestly right now, the only person I couldn't
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: imagine that would do that is Orange Cassidy. Even then,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I can kind of see that happening too, I mean,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: like the other what's up? Yeah, I could totally totally see,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: but like, well, if you can't beat them, join them, right.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: We've seen this a million times in professional wrestling.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: But like Rolla said, it's gonna end up exactly like
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: that happens, is the way it always happens when you
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: have these kind of matches. They're all gonna get a
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: turn in a ring with with with with.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Uh Max, They're all gonna get beat out on.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: They're all gonna do that, and then something's gonna happen
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: where uh Cowboy's gonna hit Jay White or vice versa,
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: which is gonna get them out of the ring and
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: they're gonna start going at it outside and Orange is
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: gonna get the pin. That's what's gonna happen. And then
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: you still leave, like I said, You're gonna leave the
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: opening for those two. This will be the last for
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: Orange will either turn or he'll be done for a
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: while because he won't have another reason to be in
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: this match anymore.
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think no, I think Youda is gonna run
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: in and hopefully not put a plustic bag of Orange.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Then, but I have I have involved in the finish.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: The first the first setup, they went against Orange and
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: he got beat Everybody's like, oh, what's gonna happen?
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Who they gonna go?
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: Then they had a stepped up hugely by involving two
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: of the top guys that are that are pretty much
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: totally opposite and have had part with each other. And
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: you throw Orange in there, which, okay, that's just to
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: keep him active in.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: It, I guess.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: But your step up is it's been going gradually. The
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: next after this pay per view, you'll have another step up.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: It'll either be because FTR has been attacked by them.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: You'll either have it to go against.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: FTR for a while, or FTR and Darby or FTR
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: and Orange or whoever. But there's always gonna be the
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: next step will be a bigger thing until it builds
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: to the final where it's ends up where either everybody
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: that's on Marxrais side gets taken out and then he loses,
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: or something major will happen down the road.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: But it's still too early.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: That world's end. We'll start a new chapter, so we'll
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: see I mean.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: We got Wolf in the chat and he made a point.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: He said, Darby doesn't have a match during this pay
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: per view. What if they do an angle before or
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the show where the Death Riders
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: take out one of the participants in TK replaces that
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: participant with Darby.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Allen, that could happen, could be.
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: Orange, I didn't even think about that.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: That could be. That could end up being the greatest
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: thing ever. This could angle.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I got. I got a question for you.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: Push back on that, Shane, is because Darby is involved
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: with the C two and the semi.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, well, I mean like they did. They just
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: did just cut. They did just cut that promo with
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Osprey and Darby talking about their match, and then they
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: agreed that. Darby said I'm still doing whatever I'm doing
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: in spite of the C two, and Osprey said, well,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I need to we win the C two. But I
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: got your back. You know, after this is done and
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: over with, I mean, it's probable that like Darby is
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: gonna keep doing what he's doing.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: But let me ask you a question real quick. So
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: we went into this talking about how the Death Riders needed.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: To change something, and so the last fifteen minutes. All
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: we've come up was about fifty different things that could happen.
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: And this is this is exactly what this what what
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: this storyline is about.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: It's about being unpredictable. Everybody complained there's not enough unpredictability.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Aw, it's not unpredictable right now? Sure it is, because yes,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: it's been NonStop beat down after beatdown, and at some
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: point there's no given take, so what so what? At
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: some point you get tired. It's like the nWo I
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: got tired them. Every week Boom, We're going to beat
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: down and the end scene was then beating down people
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: and laying them in the ring.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: That was it.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: At some point you have to say we're going to
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: give a give and take. And if you can't do that,
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: then that's not a storyline. That's a one side of storyline.
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but here's the thing. And I know Kelson last
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: week was saying like it's bad timing for them to
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: be doing this storyline alongside the Sea too, and I say, no,
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: it's not like you have these two stories if you
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: want to call it, that are going to be more different.
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: Like C two is everybody wants to go after the
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: Continental Championship, whereas with the Death Rier's story, the World
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: Championship is secondary. Moxley is like, I have the power,
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: so that's what the Death Rier's story is about. So
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: it's I think it's fine that they're running these two
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: story stories or whatever you want.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: To call them.
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: At the same time, I don't see an issue.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about Max Caster. You know, Max Caster having
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: a huge social networking presence as in anything new to anyone,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: as he continues to find himself in trouble with AEW's
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: disciplinary Committee on a pretty frequent basis, this time controversially
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: stirring over Ricky starts telling or if Maxcaster telling Ricky
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Starks to leave AW amid an extended television absence, amongst
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: other very controversial things He's posted to his personal x
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: during the Electric Times and pen post. I'm going to
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: turn to our residential Ricky Stark's specialist here, Rollins. What
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: do you have to what do you have to say
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: on this topic?
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: This is just like, this is just hilarious to me
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: that since Max Caster has kind of taken on this
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: whole best wrestler a live character attitude, whatever you want
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: to say, he's kind of gone on this tirade, and actually, Shane,
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: it's interesting I want to kind of bring you back
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: in to this because you said some you put an
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: interesting idea in the chat in our other server the
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: other day. I think it was where you think this
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: could be like a bait and switch with Ricky Starks
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: m Max Cast in terms of the Hurt Syndicate. So
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: if you want, I'll let you elaborate a little bit
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: more on that.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I I don't think that I mean
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: to me right now, it makes more sense that, you know,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Max Caster at this point tries to join the Hurt
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Syndicate and they turn him down and end up recruiting
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: somebody else. I could foresee any of I could see Ricochet,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I could see any of the three members of the
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: guys do get it on on ring of honor like
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: like there is. I could see Leo Rush and its
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: action Andretti in favor of having another strong tag team
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: in the in the faction. I mean, I think Max
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Caster is in for you know, uh, I think he
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: had Karmas coming to get him at some point. You know,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: he's he's flu under the radar a lot of times.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: The things that he's been allowed to do and you know,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: cross those lines. So I just I'm not confident that
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Max Cast there's gonna be on our televisions for very
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: much longer. I think he might take it be taken, Yeah,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: that I don't think. I think he's gonna be taking
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: the Ricky Ricky Starks doghouse snaps sooner than later.
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: I just I'm personally just enjoying this whole storyline. I
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: don't know why. There's just something about this, like Max Caster,
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: is he gonna join the Hurt Syndicate? Is it like
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: a work or whatever phrase you want to call it.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: I don't know, there's just something about it. I'm really enjoying.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Well, so let's be serious.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: Is Max Cast Do you think Max Caster is Hurt
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: Syndicate material?
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: No, he's not even close.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: No, honestly, honestly, of all the people on the ae
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: W roster, the only person that I could honestly truly
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: see being part of that group.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Would be Hobbes. Yeah, there's nobody else.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: There's nobody else that fits that bill in a e W,
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: there's not.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: The bill.
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: Ricochet doesn't fit the bill, you know, Max Caster definitely
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: don't fit the bill. But I think Max's mouth is
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: going to get him gone for a long time.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: He needs to.
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: But no, but Hobbs and the Hurt sign kid, now
• 43:26
  Speaker 7: that would that would be fantestic.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: It won't happen.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: You know why, because Hobbs wants a He needs a
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: face run. He needs a complete face run bringing like
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: he said he he may had an interview and I
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: can't remember it was, but he said that he plans
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: on bringing more of his personality, his real personality into
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: his character.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: I hate that.
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: Just to explain myself a little bit about why I
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: could see Max Caster uh possibly joined the Hurt Syndicate
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: and I responded to but Furon in our other discord
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: server about this. I think MVP believes that if he
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: pairs Max Caster alongside Shelton Benjamin and Bobby Lashley, then
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: he can shape Max into something more than just a
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: tag team wrestler.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: So you don't have a talent to be a singles
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: singles person. He's not Anthony Bows at all.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: No, if you're gonna take somebody from that team and
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: put him into Hurt Syndicate, it's Bowen's. Bowens might fit
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: now forgot about him. He probably would fit in there. Too,
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: but he is I don't I don't think he I
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: don't think he fits for the his I just don't
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: see him changing to a full on heel like the
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: Hurt syndicate needs.
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: You might but that can be a blue shipper, But
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, definitely.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: I mean, and he does fit that blue chip thing
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: because he used to be a baseball player. He was
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: a pretty decent baseball player from what I heard, mm hmm.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: But I don't know, I don't see I just don't
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: see a need for another person in the her syndicate.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: I would like Lee Moriarty to be in there, something
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: like that, someone who needs to be called up. I
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: think Lee Moriarty is still the the Ring of mar
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Pure Champions. But yeah, well what about it. He's unutilized
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: and get him off of there. And really they need
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: a young guy. They have the core group, but they
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: need a younger person. Uh. There's been things about like
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: queen and out of going over there and being uh
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: and being there female in that group. That wouldn't be
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: so bad to either.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna play Devil's advocate. What about Ricky Starks.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with him in it, but
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: he's gonna have to come back and tell everybody he's
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: fully on board with a w AND and stop trying
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: to have one foot out the door.
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: I mean you you definitely have my attention by saying
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: that Shane's.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Friday. Friday Friday is gonna have a you know, m K.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: I think you said earlier that there's gonna be that
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: there's gonna be a new chapter. And AW started at
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: World's end, same as last year. That was what their
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: big deal was. They said it's gonna AW is gonna
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: change after that, as sure as hell did because you
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: had the bigger storylines for the women. You've had other
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: things come around that they completely changed everything with with
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: the m j F and and them. If it wouldn't
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: have been for the injuries, imagine where we'll be right
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: now with this whole The AW be a totally different
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: place if you didn't have Cole and MJF hurt. I
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: think that Friday is the r o H pay per view,
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: and that r o H pay per view is going
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: to be a major, major turning point in r o H.
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: And a lot of the people were talking about, like
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: Lee Moriarty and and some of them, they're gonna They're
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: gonna be tied in and it's gonna be I think
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: there's gonna finally be a separation between r O H
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: and a W because they're going to need to separate
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: because of the the way things are going to change.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: For r O H.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if they get that true TV contract. I
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: mean r oh yeah, that's great. I mean that's fantastic
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: for them. I mean it gets given finally giving people
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: access to Ring of Honor without the necessity of the
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Honor Club subscription. Now the real question is, you know
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: what happens when they need to throw Ring of Honor
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: programming onto a streaming service outside of its dedicated streaming
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: service and ever to be maybe to be.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: But would that hurt the MAX thing? Or they together
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: or how does that work? Without anything about t B?
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: I believe if now let me give me thirty seconds,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: I believe to BE.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: To BE to B is involved? Is it to be?
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: I can't I use both of them. I can't think
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: of which one. What to B is to B? I think?
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Has is it with.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Fox three stuff?
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: No?
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: No, they have a lot of shows on like if
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: it's on FI. It's like if you what's like on
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: TBS and tn T. They have a lot of the
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: stuff is going to be and if it's not already,
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: but a lot of the shows they show on there
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: will be on Max the next day. I think a
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: lot of stuff on Fox will.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Be on to me like the day after.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's to me, it's too.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Like that, but I.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Think yeah to b is Yeah, it's a Fox. Uh,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: it's it is a Fox own company, so it is
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Fox adjacent and correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't the
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: international network deals for aw haven't they shifted? Isn't like
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: in Canada? You know, Dynamites going to us A and
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: then you know Fox dropped the WWE all over Earth
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: and now WWE's on TBS and.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: And uh and talks on Mexico.
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's all jumbled up right now. I mean
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: curious how that would translate out to American audiences if
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: they ever streamlined that or what service? You know, what
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: if I for me, you know, if I ever wanted
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: to see a ring of I like, I pay for
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Honor Club. But it's that and the only thing you
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: really get out of it, yeah, is the legacy matches,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Because I mean, not that the not that it's regular programming.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Programming isn't watchable it is. I just you know, all
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: of the best things that happened on ROH happened in
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: between twenty thirteen and twenty seventeen.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: So there's just too much.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: One on AWTV for me to keep up with Ring
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: of Honor. That's why I think that they went on
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: two B. I could go and watch TV at a
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: later date.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: True.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure how that would look, you know,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: bring the platform is free, but I guess we will.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: We'll see in the future. So anyone has anyone have
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: anything else they want to expand on that, you know
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: topic before we wrap it up with potpourri? No, all right,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: all right, moving along, So we're gonna get to Pope Marie.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: This is the part of the part of our pod
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: where everyone, you know, if they have something want to
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: bring to the table that wasn't covered during our scheduled programming,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: the more than welcome to do. So, I of course
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: will go last. If I have anything, We'll just go
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: around the room. Max he got anything for us today?
• 50:20
  Speaker 8: And I got that no oay, So one of the
• 50:25
  Speaker 8: things I have to possibly add to what we haven't
• 50:33
  Speaker 8: discussed already is I know.
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: I just want to touch back on the whole GCW.
• 50:39
  Speaker 7: Ricky starts this. That has the potential and I didn't
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: really get to that rate on it earlier, but it
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: has the potential to be the best thing we've seen
• 50:48
  Speaker 7: all year from a W has the It has so
• 50:52
  Speaker 7: much potential. I actually cannot wait to see what we
• 50:56
  Speaker 7: get from this. I want to I am iam seed
• 51:00
  Speaker 7: it and I am ready for this.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Mh shaddy, what do you got?
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: I want to bring up the I've seen some stuff
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: in the reddit and on the thing about the upcoming cards,
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: and one of the matches that I'm kind of wondering
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: about to discuss with my son is the Mina Shera
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: Cow versus Mercedes Monee for the their title for title.
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: She's the Rev Pro, Mina's the Rev Pro Champion and
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: the UH.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: They're gonna have a match at the UH pay per
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: view in Japan, and I was discussing with my son
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: the other day and I'm kind of hoping that she did.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna do it.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: I pray that if it's a title for title, they
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: do not put both those titles on monette.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: I think Mina needs to win them both, and I'm
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: praying that she gets to win there.
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: And honestly, I think Monee needs to have no titles
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: for it to see what she can do with her
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: character without titles.
• 52:03
  Speaker 7: I agree that, fully agree they need to. I guess
• 52:06
  Speaker 7: give A gives the Mercedes Monday character. I guess that
• 52:10
  Speaker 7: that soft reset for the new year. We need that
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: soft reset. Put the titles on Mina voice cement her
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: I guess exit of stardom and and her entrance into
• 52:23
  Speaker 7: full full entrance into the aw four. This once again,
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: this could be some fun. It could be fun, and
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: it could be refreshing.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Uh wow, I want to make a backwards comment on
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: all of that, but uh like the move on to
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: really tough time to be a CEO CEO in America
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: right now, guys, go ahead, rollins down.
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, let's not expand more on that.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we won't.
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: I'm very interested in this tag team match that's happening
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: tomorrow Chris Cage and Hug versus or No, I'm sorry
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: I said that wrong, Christian Cage and Nick Wayne versus
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: Hook and Katiyori Shabata. That that leads me to believe
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: Samoa Joe is coming back soon.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Well the did they wrap the shooting for Twisted Metal
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Season two?
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: That I don't know, but I think last week someone
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: said that they were doing reshoots.
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: My guess is, if you're bringing Shabbaya back into My
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: guess is if you're bringing Shabaa back into it. That
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: leads me to believe Samoa Joe is coming back because
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: those three have kind of been running together for a while.
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: But I'm kind of like, I'm enjoying the feud, but
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: it's been annoying at the same time because it feels
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: like it's been kind of it's been so disjointed, Like
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: you'll get something from Christian Cage and then it'll be
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: a few weeks and then Hook randomly shows back up.
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I want to enjoy this few Like, well,
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: it's just been so disjointed.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: But you only got so much TV time, so you
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: get some stuff in, you get some stuff you don't.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently Twisted Metal Season two stopped. Uh they were
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: done with the reshoots on November. The fourth will come back, Yeah,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: let's hope. So, abkay, what do you got for us?
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: I want to get a huge shout out to their
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: their content off of TV. I want to I watched
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: Matt cardonas hey w I loved it there mention a mirror.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: I haven't watched the full thing of of that with
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: Orange Cassie and Willow, but it gives an opportunity for
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: talent to show off who they are besides in the
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: ring and Orange Cat Casside seems out seems like a
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: guy that I would have liked to hanging out with.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: He seems like a very full guy. He's around my
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: age anyway, so he's a cool guy. And it just
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: shows off what they.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: Can do well.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Like I said with Cardona, I think Cardona could bring
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: some more content to their YouTube and and stuff and
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: you know, kind of do toys and stuff like that,
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: since they're connected with that pretty heavy and stuff. I
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: just like what they're doing and stuff. I would love
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: for them to do more stuff like that and keep
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: on building on it because it's it's tremendous for people
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: to get to know who the rest of us are
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: and identify them better than just seeing them on TV
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: all the time. As as wrestlers.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: You know, I want to comment on that, if they
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: they've had the opportunity to grow their social media presence
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: on dozens of occasions, Ethan Page, Brody King, Smart Mark Sterling,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Dan Housen specifically one of the biggest independent merchsellers in
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: the history professional wrestling, Like who is still monetizing you
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: know his social media presence as Dan Housen not being
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: on AW two television. Pulling Cardona over for it seems
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: like a cheap way to get something that you've had
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: in your back pocket the entire time you've been a company.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: But Dan House is not Cordona. I don't care to
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: listen to Dan Houson anymore. I've lost all interest in him.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: He was a nice little side show, but he's not Cardona,
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: and he doesn't have the backstory and all that that
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: I enjoy with Cardona.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Simply, you have barely spoken this pod.
• 56:43
  Speaker 9: Bring us home, Okay, let's see. Oh, I know, I
• 56:49
  Speaker 9: wanted to talk a little bit about the GCW aspect
• 56:54
  Speaker 9: that we haven't touched on. Something with a W and
• 56:58
  Speaker 9: GCW that I heard about maybe two or three months
• 57:04
  Speaker 9: ago was Megan Bain, who is in GCW being interested
• 57:12
  Speaker 9: in coming over to ae W. She's one of my
• 57:15
  Speaker 9: favorite women wrestlers. I like her a lot She's really great,
• 57:20
  Speaker 9: and I think that if AW and GCW is doing something,
• 57:27
  Speaker 9: I think that there is potential for Megan Bain to
• 57:31
  Speaker 9: be worked into this story. And it also works in
• 57:36
  Speaker 9: with Joey Janella, who she is dating in real life.
• 57:42
  Speaker 9: And I've heard Joey Janella over the past couple of
• 57:45
  Speaker 9: months express interest in coming back into AW himself. So
• 57:53
  Speaker 9: I think that it goes a little bit beyond Chris
• 57:57
  Speaker 9: Jericho and Matt and and Cardona and Starks. I think
• 58:03
  Speaker 9: that there are some other people in the GCW company
• 58:08
  Speaker 9: that have interest in AW that we very well may see,
• 58:15
  Speaker 9: you know, on TV with them pretty soon in some
• 58:19
  Speaker 9: crossover matches or something like that. And I also have
• 58:24
  Speaker 9: adored Dan Housen, but he has aggravated me lately. He
• 58:29
  Speaker 9: also is over there in GCW, so who knows, maybe
• 58:33
  Speaker 9: he'll come back and bother us some more.
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: And that's my takee.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Well, So in terms of something I wanted to expand
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: on that, and I'll use that as my potpourri is
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: how intelligent it is for AW to have working relationships
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: with all of these indie corporations, especially the indie corporations
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: that are on a larger scale like GCW, who arguably
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: could be considered to be like in that top tier,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: like definitely at the very bottom. I mean like it'd
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: be like WWE, AEW, New Japan, TNA, and then like
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: four more promotions later like AW all the way at
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: the boo oh not AW. Excuse me, I can't even
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: talk today. This is my whole, entire, the entire day.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: GCW at the bottom of that list. The GCW certainly
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: has a lot to offer. They are more deathmanch oriented
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: and they do a lot of more real life combat
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: sports jiu jitsu type stuff. But I do believe it
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: is a good working promotion to have a relationship with,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: you know, especially you know that they've grown a lot
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: of AW main roster guys before they became AW main
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: roster guys. So it's a good landing ground. And with that,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: anyone hells they have anything they want to say and
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: bring the show back around.
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: I just want to I just want to expand on
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: what you were saying. I think it's cool as hell
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: because for years and years and years all we had
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: was WWE and they didn't work with anybody. All of
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: a sudden, AW comes alone and TK is slowly making
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: one of the biggest wrestling empires ever seen. He works
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: with everybody CMLLL, he works with New Japan, he works
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: with possibly GCW. He works with everybody and anybody he
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: can work with. And I think he is actually going
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: to build something that will make WWE look so small,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: and I.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: Love it, you know, honestly, like I want to believe
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: in a perfect world that that could happen. I mean,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: WWE is the company that built professional wrestling out of America.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: It still holds, you know, the title of being the
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: professional wrestling monopoly here in the continental US. Do I
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: believe that there is a lot more professional wrestling that's
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: worth watching than most of what happens on a ww programmer,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Oh very much so. But you know, that's also been
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: my flavor of professional wrestling preference. I watched WCW and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: ECW before I watched WWF back in the day. That's
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: just what I preferred to watch. So I guess it's
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: the different strokes for different folks scenario. But with that
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: being said, I want to thank everyone who came to
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: tune in to watch us this evening, the AW podcast team,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: the AW Fanhub podcast team, and everyone else. You guys,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: could tune in tomorrow evening for the Dynamite post show review.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: We'll get that started around ten fifteen. You know. That's
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: all we got for this evening, folks. Thank you so
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: much for turning in Cyanara.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Hey guys, take care everyone.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: Aye.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 6: Bye