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Judge Napolitano - Tucker Carlson and Free Speech · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: twenty five, So just wanted to take a moment to
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  Speaker 1: wish the judge a very merry Christmas and happy new Year.
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  Speaker 1: We wish you the best in twenty twenty six. Chuck
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  Speaker 1: Ingram fifty five KRC the talk station.
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  Speaker 2: Kind sentiment there from Chuck Ingram to Judge Nita Polton.
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  Speaker 2: Of course every Wednesday, here at this hour and this
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  Speaker 2: time of hour we talk with Judge Nita Polatan. I
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  Speaker 2: love having them on the program, Judging and a Polyton
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  Speaker 2: to welcome back and yes from my listening audience.
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  Speaker 3: In merrid morning, Chuck, thank you very much, you know,
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  Speaker 3: for all of our busting his chops. That was a
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  Speaker 3: very sincere, moving and lovely comment, and I'm deeply grateful,
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  Speaker 3: and I can't wait for the day when I can
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  Speaker 3: actually meet him and see what he looks like.
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  Speaker 2: I know maybe twenty six will be the year we
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  Speaker 2: can pull that off. Judge and Polatano, you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: a welcome it's a welcome idea. You bring it up
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  Speaker 2: all the time. I, of course, you can't wait for
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  Speaker 2: the day that happens. And I've talked to Chuck Ingram
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of times. He always gets really excited about
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  Speaker 2: the concept. So maybe this will be the year. I
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  Speaker 2: got to tell you, you know, I always love your
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  Speaker 2: column comes out tonight Midnight, Tucker Carlson and the Freedom
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  Speaker 2: of Speech. I always love it. You make great points,
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  Speaker 2: you always back it with constitutional background. You know what
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  Speaker 2: the framers intended. And this one I was particularly taken
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  Speaker 2: with because I almost and that this is an overstatement,
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  Speaker 2: but I almost feel embarrassed that Chuck Schumer is even
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  Speaker 2: advancing this as a concept because of how batcrap insane
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  Speaker 2: it is and how much it flies in the face
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  Speaker 2: of the First Amendment. Let's talk about this what the
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  Speaker 2: hell is going on?
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  Speaker 3: So Senator Schumer, who is the leader of the Democrats
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  Speaker 3: in the United States Senate, introduced a resolution in behalf
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  Speaker 3: of himself and forty Democratic senators, which is nearly all
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  Speaker 3: of them, it's forty seven of them, to condemn Tucker
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  Speaker 3: Carlson for something he did not say on his show
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  Speaker 3: You got that right. He had this character who offends
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people and says a lot of horrible things,
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  Speaker 3: but he's, you know, the type of person we put
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  Speaker 3: on these shows because people want to hear him. Nick
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  Speaker 3: Flint is who said some things that Schumber and company
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  Speaker 3: didn't like. And so they've actually offered a resolution which
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  Speaker 3: will be a sense of the Senate condemning Tucker Carlson
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  Speaker 3: for failure quote to.
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  Speaker 4: Push back close quote.
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  Speaker 3: That's actually the phrase from the resolution against this guy,
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  Speaker 3: Nick Flint is.
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  Speaker 4: Now, this is a sense of the Senate. It doesn't
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  Speaker 4: go to the House.
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  Speaker 3: It's not legislation, it doesn't have the force of law,
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  Speaker 3: but it's the time of It's the type of unconstitutional nonsense,
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  Speaker 3: of betrayal of basic First Amendment principles that the Congress
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  Speaker 3: will occasionally get involved in. If there's speech out there
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  Speaker 3: or silence out there that they hate or fear. It's
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  Speaker 3: simply reprehensible they're doing it. And in fact, when my
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  Speaker 3: producer said to me, hey, Judge, you won't believe what
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  Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer, whose office is right across the street from
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  Speaker 3: where I am now, his New York City office, and
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  Speaker 3: sometimes I see him in the streets and we chat.
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  Speaker 3: You won't believe what Chuck Schumer's up to. Next, I
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  Speaker 3: didn't believe the producer, and I made him get me
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  Speaker 3: a copy of this, and he gave it to me,
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  Speaker 3: and I read it, and I was furious, and I
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  Speaker 3: banged out that column.
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  Speaker 2: I said, well, first off, let me observe. I guess
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  Speaker 2: they don't have anything to do before they go on
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  Speaker 2: Christmas break, that they have time to put forward a
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  Speaker 2: sense of the Senate motion, which has no impact, no force,
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  Speaker 2: and effective law. It's a pointless gesture and it's a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of wheel spinning for the purpose of I guess
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  Speaker 2: grandstanding politically. But I feel embarrassed for him for doing
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  Speaker 2: this for the reasons that you point out in the article.
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  Speaker 2: This is a chilling effect on speech. It's laughable as
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  Speaker 2: a concept, but this is not their role. Their role
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  Speaker 2: is to enforce the constitution and protect and defend it.
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  Speaker 2: That Tucker Carlson has a nut job maybe on the program,
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  Speaker 2: that's his right. Maybe his ratings will drop off because
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  Speaker 2: he got the wrong people on. That's for us to decide,
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  Speaker 2: much like we can evaluate the speech that that guy
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  Speaker 2: or anybody else's uttering.
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  Speaker 3: You used a fascinating constitutional phrase and I want to
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  Speaker 3: dwell on it for just a moment.
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  Speaker 4: Chilling.
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  Speaker 3: Chilling is government behavior which gives speakers pause or second
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  Speaker 3: thoughts or fear before they articulate what their thoughts are
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  Speaker 3: for fear that some something and the government will happen
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  Speaker 3: to them. It is profoundly unconstitutional for the government to
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  Speaker 3: behave to engage in behavior that's chilling. The very famous
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  Speaker 3: case where Jagor Hoover sent to FBI agents. Within those days,
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  Speaker 3: cameras were big, old fashioned things with flash bulbs if
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  Speaker 3: you remember those, to put them in the face of
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  Speaker 3: war protesters and snap pictures. That's chilling, the government literally
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  Speaker 3: figuratively and literally in your face, giving you pause or
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  Speaker 3: second thoughts before you express a political opinion, in this
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  Speaker 3: case on the Vietnam War. Fast forward to today and
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  Speaker 3: chilling is a little bit more sophisticated, but just as terrifying.
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  Speaker 3: Now I know Tucker Carlson, He's not going to be
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  Speaker 3: chilled by this at all. But other people lacking his
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  Speaker 3: backbone and his megaphone might be chilled by a Congress
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  Speaker 3: that picks and chooses which speech it likes and which
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  Speaker 3: speech it hates, and can the speech it hates. The
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  Speaker 3: First Amendment prohibits, absolutely prohibits the government from evaluating the
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  Speaker 3: content of political speech and acting upon that evaluation.
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  Speaker 2: Well and seeing to me, there's a lot of that
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  Speaker 2: going on during the COVID time when we had FBI
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  Speaker 2: agents establishing offices in social media platforms and telling you
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  Speaker 2: and I what we can and cannot say and edit
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  Speaker 2: it and excising certain comments. They can't do that either.
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  Speaker 4: Correct, correct, So this is just reprehensible.
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  Speaker 3: The Democrats are doing this, I think, and you just
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  Speaker 3: alluded to this, Brian.
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  Speaker 4: It's all political.
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  Speaker 3: Schumer wants to see if he can force the Republicans
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  Speaker 3: to cast a vote which he will then characterize as
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  Speaker 3: pro Nick Flint, as that's the young man that Tucker
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  Speaker 3: put on the show, and he can then paint the
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  Speaker 3: Republicans in the Senate with the excesses and absurdities and
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  Speaker 3: even horribles that Flentes has articulated. So Tucker runs, as
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  Speaker 3: you say, a private company. It is the second most
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  Speaker 3: watched podcast in the United States of America. He can
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  Speaker 3: put whoever the hell he wants on his show, and
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  Speaker 3: he can say or not say, whatever the hell he
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  Speaker 3: wants on his show. The Congress be damned.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I have to pivot. I want to get
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  Speaker 2: your thoughts on this because it seems like the stars
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  Speaker 2: are aligning, but not in a very good way.
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  Speaker 4: And I hope you're not going to ask me about
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  Speaker 4: Joe Burrow.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I don't want to go that gloom
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  Speaker 2: and doom. We're trying to have a positive spin on
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  Speaker 2: the Morning show here, So less gloom and doomy than
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  Speaker 2: that is bombs dropping on Venezuela. So we have the
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  Speaker 2: designation of narco terrorism, and that provided a vehicle for
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump to drop bombs on boats. We've talked about that. Look,
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  Speaker 2: narco terrorists, they got drugs, blow them up, they're narco terras.
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  Speaker 2: Then you have fentanyl. Ventyl has been declared a weapon
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  Speaker 2: of mass destruction. And then just yesterday I believe it was.
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  Speaker 2: Venezuela has been the regime of Venezuela has been designated
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  Speaker 2: a foreign terrorist organization. So are we going to get
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  Speaker 2: the whole that's a foreign terrorist organization. They have WMDs
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  Speaker 2: so we can drop bombs on them. Is that the
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  Speaker 2: next phase here?
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  Speaker 3: Judging Apotoa, probably And it's all about oil.
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  Speaker 4: It's all about oil.
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump's own Drug Enforcement Administration go to their website.
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  Speaker 3: Venezuela is not an exporter of cocaine.
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  Speaker 4: Or fent and oil.
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  Speaker 3: There was a time when it was an exporter of cocaine,
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  Speaker 3: hasn't done it in years. This is all a oila
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  Speaker 3: facade and quick draw Repete just wants to kill people.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't give the president any resistance whatsoever. Referring to
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  Speaker 3: my former colleague, and I guess after what I've been
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  Speaker 3: saying form a friend of Pete egg Seth.
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  Speaker 2: So the oil and we've done any a blocking of
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  Speaker 2: Venezuelan oil tankers, so it's beyond just the one we captured,
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  Speaker 2: it's all Venezuelan oil tankers. Arguing that his he illegally
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  Speaker 2: confiscated the oil companies because they did go full on
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  Speaker 2: socialism with his election, which means, yeah, Chevron, sorry sucks
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  Speaker 2: to be you. You invested in the country, new regime.
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  Speaker 2: They took your property from you. This happens all the
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  Speaker 2: time with regime changes like that. But it's more about
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  Speaker 2: regime change with Maduro because if you cut off the
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  Speaker 2: practically the loan source of income he has oil sales,
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  Speaker 2: then his regime is going to collapse.
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  Speaker 3: Well, this is going to have an effect that Donald
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  Speaker 3: Trump may not want because his biggest customer is in Beijing.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they're just going to sit back idly
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  Speaker 3: while these ships are not allowed to go through the
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  Speaker 3: Panama Canal. I just don't don't think so. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what's going to happen next. Yesterday the United States
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  Speaker 3: Senate tell me if you think World War three is coming, Brian.
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  Speaker 3: Yesterday the United States Senate voted an absurd They didn't
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  Speaker 3: vote on it.
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  Speaker 4: They debated an.
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  Speaker 3: Absurd resolution offered by Senator Lindsey Graham to declare the
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  Speaker 3: Russian government state sponsors of terrorism. These are the people
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  Speaker 3: we're trying to negotiate with. As Senator Ranpaul said, we
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  Speaker 3: have sixteen thousand, literally sanctions on the Russian government. The
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  Speaker 3: Russian people, Russian society is sixteen thousand and one going
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  Speaker 3: to make a difference. Why are we doing this? What
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  Speaker 3: are we going to accomplish by it? At the same time,
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  Speaker 3: Trump said he may seize some Russian tankers.
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  Speaker 4: Good luck. Their navy is bigger than ours.
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  Speaker 2: Lots of complicating factors in that one. We now brought
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  Speaker 2: the Russians and the Chinese into the situation off the
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  Speaker 2: coast of Venezuela. Well, at least it's better than talking
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  Speaker 2: about Joe Burrow from a happy, sad standpoint. Judge Innapolitano,
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  Speaker 2: I think he's got one foot out the door.
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  Speaker 4: Parent.
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  Speaker 2: Judging Freedom is Judge A. Poultana's podcast. I'll encourage my
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  Speaker 2: listeners to find it wherever they get their podcasts. How
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  Speaker 2: about today, your honor.
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  Speaker 3: I have the second most listened to and arguably best
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  Speaker 3: known media figure in the Western world on at eleven
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  Speaker 3: o'clock this morning, Tucker Carlson.
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  Speaker 2: Timing is everything.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it is, Brian.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of hits on that one, thanks to Chucky Shubert.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to enjoy that one, I'm sure, yes, Judge a.
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  Speaker 3: One hour edition of Judging Freedom today at eleven and
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  Speaker 3: then of course, it'll be posted for anybody to download
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  Speaker 3: it whenever they.
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  Speaker 2: Wish, and I'm sure they will. I presume that you
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  Speaker 2: and I will not be talking next Wednesday.
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  Speaker 4: I think you're right.
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  Speaker 3: I think we'll be talking next on January seventh, which
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  Speaker 3: seems a long way from now, but will probably come
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  Speaker 3: like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sadly they're during my Christmas break. The days fly
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  Speaker 2: by like minutes. It's just like I love it but
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  Speaker 2: I hate it at the same time.
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  Speaker 3: But I am already very Christmas to you and your
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  Speaker 3: family and the happinw you're into, the wonderful people with
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  Speaker 3: whom you work, Joe Strecker and Chuck Ingram, and the
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  Speaker 3: people behind the scenes that help this great show get
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  Speaker 3: out there, whom I have yet to have the pleasure
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  Speaker 3: of meeting.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Judge Napaula Tano, God bless you, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Merry Christmas, and if you're going anywhere, safe travels to
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  Speaker 2: you and yours.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you Back at you, Brian, all the best.
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