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Society Is Emotionally Combustible: Why Laughter Might Save Us with Cameron Karber · Let's Get Naked

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SPEAKER_00: Hey everyone, I'm Anne.
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Let's Get Naked podcast, where we dive deep into vulnerability.
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SPEAKER_00: In this space, we'll explore what triggers us, uncover the patterns holding us back, and discover how to take charge of our own growth.
0:15
SPEAKER_00: If you're ready to dig in, be vulnerable, and face the tough stuff, then buckle up.
0:21
SPEAKER_00: It's time to get naked.
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SPEAKER_00: You want to know what's actually terrifying right now?
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SPEAKER_00: Not climate change, not AI, not politics, not whatever fresh hell is trending online this week.
0:34
SPEAKER_00: It's the fact that society has become emotionally combustible.
0:38
SPEAKER_00: Everybody's walking around like a live grenade with Wi-Fi.
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SPEAKER_00: One comment, one joke, one disagreement, one misunderstood text, one opinion somebody doesn't personally like, and boom.
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SPEAKER_00: Friendships explode, families split, careers evaporate, comment sections become digital knife fights, and people spiral into full identity crises because somebody on the internet said words.
1:04
SPEAKER_00: Words.
1:05
SPEAKER_00: And before everybody starts foaming at the mouth, let me clarify something.
1:10
SPEAKER_00: There's a massive difference between awareness and hyperfragility.
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SPEAKER_00: Awareness is healthy, empathy is healthy.
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SPEAKER_00: Growth, healthy.
1:19
SPEAKER_00: But somewhere along the line, we crossed into this bizarre cultural space where people started treating discomfort like violence.
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SPEAKER_00: That's dangerous because discomfort is part of being human.
1:33
SPEAKER_00: You don't grow without friction.
1:36
SPEAKER_00: You don't evolve without challenge.
1:39
SPEAKER_00: You don't build emotional resilience by bubble wrapping yourself from every opinion, joke, or awkward moment that hurts your feelings for 12 seconds.
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SPEAKER_00: And honestly, I think we're watching the side effects of a society that forgot how to laugh.
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SPEAKER_00: Not fake laugh, not performative lol in a text message.
2:02
SPEAKER_00: I mean real laughter.
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SPEAKER_00: The kind that releases tension, the kind that reminds you none of us know what the hell we're doing.
2:09
SPEAKER_00: The kind that reconnects people instead of dividing them into teams.
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SPEAKER_00: Because right now, people are so hyper-aware of every possible offense that they've become hypersensitive to being alive.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's exhausting.
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SPEAKER_00: Everybody's analyzing every word, every interaction, every joke, every facial expression, every emoji, every pause.
2:35
SPEAKER_00: We've turned basic human communication into hostage negotiation training.
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SPEAKER_00: And meanwhile, anxiety is through the roof.
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SPEAKER_00: Depression is through the roof.
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SPEAKER_00: Loneliness through the roof.
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SPEAKER_00: People are isolated, angry, disconnected, medicated, overstimulated, underloved, and chronically online.
2:57
SPEAKER_00: But sure.
2:58
SPEAKER_00: Let's keep pretending the biggest issue is somebody making a joke you didn't personally enjoy.
3:05
SPEAKER_00: You know who actually understands this?
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SPEAKER_00: Comedians.
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SPEAKER_00: Comedians have always been society's pressure release valve.
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SPEAKER_00: They walk straight into the tension, straight into the awkwardness, straight into the taboo, straight into the uncomfortable truth everybody else is too scared to touch, and they help people laugh long enough to breathe again.
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SPEAKER_00: That matters more than people realize.
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SPEAKER_00: Humor desensitizes us in a healthy way, not to cruelty, not to injustice, to life, to awkwardness, to imperfection, to the reality that human beings are messy, weird, contradictory little creatures.
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SPEAKER_00: Comedy reminds us not to take ourselves so damn seriously all the time.
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SPEAKER_00: And honestly, some people desperately need that reminder because we now have entire industries profiting off outrage.
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SPEAKER_00: Fear sells, division sells, rage sells, clicks sell.
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SPEAKER_00: Calm people don't do scroll for six straight hours.
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SPEAKER_00: But laughter, laughter reconnects humanity.
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SPEAKER_00: And I genuinely think we need comedians on the front lines right now more than ever.
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SPEAKER_00: Not sanitized corporate robots reading pre-approved safe jokes written by 12 lawyers and a PR department.
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SPEAKER_00: Real comedians, the ones willing to poke the bear, the ones willing to say the uncomfortable thing, the ones willing to hold up a mirror to society and go, hey, you guys realize this is getting fucking insane, right?
4:42
SPEAKER_00: Because it is insane.
4:44
SPEAKER_00: And maybe if we could all unclench for five damn minutes, breathe, laugh at ourselves a little, stop treating every disagreement like a declaration of war, we'd remember that most people are not the enemy.
4:59
SPEAKER_00: They're just human, messy, imperfect, emotionally overloaded, humans trying to survive, the same chaotic planet you are.
5:09
SPEAKER_00: Let's get into it.
5:11
SPEAKER_00: Today I'm stripping it all off with Cameron, who is one of my favorite guests.
5:16
SPEAKER_00: And we're here to talk about the things that we think are important right now for where society is with all of the sensitivity and uh nonsense.
5:29
SPEAKER_00: I don't even know what to call it anymore.
5:31
SPEAKER_00: You know, I think for a lot of people that have been with us for a while, either listening or in life, um, you realize that I stay unplugged for the most part when it comes to staff.
5:42
SPEAKER_00: I've had the opportunity, unfortunately, recently to plug in.
5:45
SPEAKER_00: And I've been telling Cameron after doing that, we're in worse shape than I thought.
5:50
SPEAKER_03: That's a that's a that's a fact that those words actually came out of your mouth.
5:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're in we're in much worse worse shape than I thought because I think that I come from this place of understanding that we're all humans, and this life is real messy.
6:07
SPEAKER_00: It's real messy.
6:08
SPEAKER_00: And I think we've just as a society gotten so triggered out and defensive and not willing to listen to one another that it's just turned into a not fun game anymore.
6:22
SPEAKER_00: I don't even I don't even know what to say about it, other than we used to be able to banter.
6:26
SPEAKER_00: We used to be able to fuck with one another and poke fun at the different things, not from a place of malice or or bad intent.
6:33
SPEAKER_00: Um, and you can't say anything now without just being annihilated, whether that's in person or online.
6:41
SPEAKER_00: And so now you have a bunch of people who don't speak up, you know, people that need to speak up, you know, don't speak up.
6:48
SPEAKER_00: And so that's why we were talking about the whole comedian angle and the call to action to our comedians out there, because uh them being able to really equal opportunity, just mess with everyone, every demographic.
7:02
SPEAKER_00: There's there's things that are funny about everything.
7:04
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter what you are, uh, it doesn't matter what your what your you know POV is on this on this human experience.
7:11
SPEAKER_00: There are funny things about all of the stuff.
7:14
SPEAKER_00: Um, we're meant to laugh.
7:15
SPEAKER_00: We're meant to laugh with each other, at each other in in playful ways.
7:20
SPEAKER_00: You know, you think about your family growing up or people that you're really close with, and you're supposed to be able to bust one another's balls.
7:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, that's that's a really important um component of it.
7:30
SPEAKER_00: But we've gotten to where we can't even do that anymore.
7:32
SPEAKER_00: You know, a simple, a simple video of of stuff, and people just lose their shit in the comments section.
7:38
SPEAKER_00: And I just think, God, what are we doing wrong?
7:40
SPEAKER_00: What are we doing wrong?
7:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's a uh that's a pretty long list.
7:45
SPEAKER_03: You know, what are we doing right?
7:46
SPEAKER_03: That's probably a pretty short list.
7:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
7:48
SPEAKER_03: So it it was striking me as you were as you were talking a moment ago about about being bombarded with awareness for this and awareness for that, right?
8:05
SPEAKER_03: That it gets to the point where most reasonable people understand that it's easier to shut up.
8:14
SPEAKER_03: Just don't talk, just don't say a word, because if you do say something that's on your mind, it's going to offend somebody, you know, most likely.
8:22
SPEAKER_03: And nobody wants to deal with the fallout of that anymore, right?
8:26
SPEAKER_03: So the the consequences of keeping your mouth shut, regardless of what needs to be said, are way more attractive than the consequences of you know actually saying what you think or what you feel or what you think is appropriate in that set of circumstances.
8:41
SPEAKER_03: And it's unfortunate, right?
8:43
SPEAKER_03: Because that that instead of addressing issues, it makes the issues even worse, right?
8:51
SPEAKER_03: If uh we have a lot of conversations about what happens to people when they remain unchecked, right?
8:59
SPEAKER_03: And if there's nobody to check you, then you're going to turn into something that is insufferable, right?
9:07
SPEAKER_03: That's just how it is.
9:08
SPEAKER_03: If you don't have somebody to bust your balls, if your friends aren't giving you a hard time about you know your activities, your actions, or whatever, if you don't have somebody to do that, even if it's you know a comedian on TV that's challenging your worldview, if you don't have that, you're on the path to something that you don't want to be, and nobody else wants to be around you either, right?
9:28
SPEAKER_03: That's kind of a that's a real thing.
9:30
SPEAKER_00: I agree with you, and I think the problem is the people that would say something no longer will say something because of what has happened over the last however many years.
9:42
SPEAKER_00: I I don't even know anymore.
9:43
SPEAKER_00: But it's like the people that you know had a had a valid opinion and won't mess with the nonsense of being, you know, bullied or people, you know, screaming louder, or just you know, the other side, whatever the other side is for you, um really just brutalizing people.
9:59
SPEAKER_00: And so people are like, fuck that.
10:01
SPEAKER_00: I don't even have the energy for that, which is great.
10:03
SPEAKER_00: Except then the only people that are talking are the complete nut jobs that you can't even get your head around what they're saying.
10:10
SPEAKER_00: Like, that's why I don't plug into stuff anymore.
10:12
SPEAKER_00: Cameron will give me nuggets here and there, and it's like, oh, we're eating babies now.
10:16
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, okay, that sounds good.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: Like, you can't even, you can't even, you can't even surprise me anymore because I don't subscribe to any of that shit.
10:22
SPEAKER_00: It's like, oh, we've got islands where we're, you know, people are fucking children and we're not doing anything about it, and no one's gonna be held accountable.
10:29
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, well, that tracks.
10:30
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you just can't surprise me anymore with the shit that's that's happening, but no one's going to stand up to check anybody else because it's not worth it.
10:40
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
10:40
SPEAKER_00: You know, and I agree with you.
10:41
SPEAKER_00: I think you you're meant to have people in your life, right?
10:44
SPEAKER_00: I have, I can, I can name at least half a dozen people right now that will bust my balls right now.
10:50
SPEAKER_00: I can just call them that'll be the first thing out of their mouths.
10:52
SPEAKER_00: They won't even let me say boo before they're giving me the business about something.
10:56
SPEAKER_02: Right.
10:57
SPEAKER_00: And also, how lovely is that?
11:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm honored to have those people that will bust my balls.
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SPEAKER_00: None of them listen to the show, and so it's great.
11:05
SPEAKER_00: I could give that whole list and no one would even know.
11:07
SPEAKER_00: Um, right.
11:08
SPEAKER_00: But but that's that's such a beautiful thing.
11:10
SPEAKER_01: It is right.
11:11
SPEAKER_00: And it's it's like if you have people that surround you that are just echo what you say, or vice versa, everybody just gets in line and you all you know, pretend believe the same thing, knock it off.
11:21
SPEAKER_03: Well, you know, the the other part of that is uh, and I think this gets missed a lot.
11:27
SPEAKER_03: Support doesn't always look like kindness, right?
11:30
SPEAKER_03: Right.
11:30
SPEAKER_03: Or or maybe not, maybe kindness isn't the right word, but you know, well, you know, support doesn't always look like pleasant words, right?
11:41
SPEAKER_03: It's not right, we're not trying to that proper support doesn't give you a fake illusion or try to make you feel something about better that you shouldn't feel better about.
11:51
SPEAKER_03: No doubt.
11:52
SPEAKER_03: Right, no doubt.
11:52
SPEAKER_00: If I if I go to a trusted friend and I say something and I'm in the wrong, I want them to be like, hey ding dong, can I may I help you see it from a different perspective?
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
12:00
SPEAKER_03: Proper support looks like the truth, right?
12:02
SPEAKER_03: Right.
12:02
SPEAKER_03: No, no, no matter how you slice it, right?
12:04
SPEAKER_03: And then if you have those people that are willing to tell you the truth, those people are probably also willing to give you a hand with whatever part of that truth you struggle with.
12:14
SPEAKER_00: Well, and knowing that truth is different for everybody too, right?
12:17
SPEAKER_00: And I think that that's a bigger, a bigger piece of it.
12:19
SPEAKER_00: You know, I remember having a conversation with somebody where they were like, well, that goes that doesn't go against the moral compass, you know, or the whatever.
12:26
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, who whose moral compass though?
12:29
SPEAKER_02: Right?
12:29
SPEAKER_00: You know, we were talking about abortion, and it was like, well, that goes against you know the moral compass.
12:33
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, whose moral compass?
12:35
SPEAKER_00: Right, right?
12:35
SPEAKER_00: Because your moral compass is going to be different than my moral compass because I have lots of different factors that come into it.
12:41
SPEAKER_00: And I might look at yours and be outraged that there are things in, you know, that you would call as part of your moral compass that to me seem completely outrageous.
12:49
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
12:49
SPEAKER_01: And vice versa.
12:50
SPEAKER_00: And vice versa.
12:50
SPEAKER_00: And there's nothing wrong with that.
12:52
SPEAKER_00: But to think that, you know, I think everybody has this whole thing where they think their way is the only way, and it's like, that's not how it works, you guys.
13:00
SPEAKER_00: Like at all.
13:01
SPEAKER_00: That's not how it works.
13:02
SPEAKER_00: So don't come from this place of like you're wrong.
13:04
SPEAKER_00: I've never had more people be like, wrong.
13:07
SPEAKER_00: Right?
13:07
SPEAKER_00: Like, I post I so here's a funny story.
13:10
SPEAKER_00: So I I've been off of social media this whole entire time.
13:13
SPEAKER_00: It's been so lovely.
13:14
SPEAKER_00: And then I have a snafu where I'm in between social media people.
13:17
SPEAKER_00: Someone help me, by the way.
13:18
SPEAKER_00: I this I am not built for this stuff.
13:20
SPEAKER_00: I am not built for this stuff.
13:22
SPEAKER_00: I post a video out that I and I've been posting for a year and a half.
13:26
SPEAKER_00: Love, compassion, get the people in here, like all the things.
13:30
SPEAKER_00: Very little stuff.
13:31
SPEAKER_00: All I have to say is, all I have to do is call some dudes' fuck tarts that block and don't merge at the merge point.
13:40
SPEAKER_00: And people are losing their fucking minds in my comment section.
13:44
SPEAKER_00: Wrong, wrong.
13:46
SPEAKER_00: We're even gonna let you drive.
13:47
SPEAKER_00: You're a woman, wrong.
13:49
SPEAKER_00: Like, what?
13:50
SPEAKER_00: You don't have a wife or a daughter or whatever.
13:52
SPEAKER_00: Like kill yourself?
13:54
SPEAKER_00: Are we serious?
13:55
SPEAKER_00: This is what makes me realize for our listeners.
13:58
SPEAKER_00: This is what makes me realize we're in way worse shape than I thought.
14:02
SPEAKER_00: Because I don't care if you want to call me an entitled cunt, which I got, which is awesome.
14:06
SPEAKER_00: That doesn't bother me at all.
14:07
SPEAKER_00: It really doesn't.
14:08
SPEAKER_00: But when you put something on there about kill yourself, to me, I just don't think that's even that's inhumane.
14:14
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
14:14
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't bother me.
14:15
SPEAKER_00: Also, I'm very solid in who I am.
14:16
SPEAKER_00: I don't give a shit about merge points and fuck tarts and all of that stuff.
14:20
SPEAKER_00: But in general, that level of just inhumane is disgusting to me, right?
14:26
SPEAKER_02: Right.
14:26
SPEAKER_00: And then you have everything in between.
14:28
SPEAKER_00: You have everything from a dude that spent an hour at least making a 10-minute video in response to, and thank you for doing that.
14:34
SPEAKER_00: How lovely.
14:35
SPEAKER_00: I don't have to agree with him to understand his point.
14:37
SPEAKER_00: Sir, thank you for doing the research.
14:39
SPEAKER_00: And you know, and putting your energy and effort into this instead of just being wrong, you know, or the dudes that are like, I'm gonna fucking run you into the cones, you know, or like you're the you must be a bitch that merges at 45.
14:49
SPEAKER_00: It's like, what is wrong with you people?
14:51
SPEAKER_00: Are you wild right now?
14:54
SPEAKER_00: That's what's happening, right?
14:55
SPEAKER_00: And also I will maintain lots of different scenarios and the merging and the blocking and the zippering, and but it literally has people losing their fucking minds.
15:04
SPEAKER_00: There's people on there that are like wanting to share addresses so that they can go through throw down.
15:08
SPEAKER_00: And I'm thinking the lack of emotional intelligence with people out there makes me nervous for what we have collectively, right?
15:18
SPEAKER_03: Right.
15:18
SPEAKER_03: You know, I was I was I was actually thinking about that a little bit earlier today.
15:22
SPEAKER_03: And thinking, okay, so if you're the guy that person, whatever, that gets that gets cut off in traffic, right?
15:30
SPEAKER_03: There's like there's a bunch of stuff that that goes on, and just just that little just that little one thing, right?
15:35
SPEAKER_01: 100%.
15:36
SPEAKER_03: And so you at the end of the day, if you if you look at that situation objectively, like you're the one that gets cut off, that gets cut off.
15:44
SPEAKER_03: The worst thing that happened to you is you're getting to your destination like one car life later than you would have or could have, right?
15:54
SPEAKER_03: Like that effect is it's zero.
15:57
SPEAKER_03: Like it's not even approaching zero, it's fucking zero.
16:00
SPEAKER_03: Zero, zero, right?
16:02
SPEAKER_03: But you don't know what's going on in the mind of the person that that cuts you off, right?
16:06
SPEAKER_03: And so, and so you don't.
16:09
SPEAKER_03: So maybe that person is, you know, just an absolute fucked heart, right?
16:13
SPEAKER_03: Could be.
16:15
SPEAKER_03: Could be.
16:15
SPEAKER_03: But so so so maybe you want to get worked up and go have a conversation with that person, and you want to yell at them or whatever.
16:21
SPEAKER_03: Like, what's the outcome of that, right?
16:23
SPEAKER_03: If that person really is that bad in the first place, there isn't anything you're gonna say to that person, there's anything you're gonna do to that person that's gonna make that person act any differently.
16:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, again, right?
16:34
SPEAKER_03: That's just that person's gonna do the same thing, right?
16:37
SPEAKER_03: Maybe you have somebody that's in a hurry to get to the hospital because they have a dying relative or something like that, you know.
16:43
SPEAKER_03: Maybe it's you'd be honored just to get out of their way to let to let them in.
16:47
SPEAKER_03: You don't know what's going on there, right?
16:49
SPEAKER_03: And but but for that person just to, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna go get in the lane and keep you from getting past me, or like I don't get that.
16:57
SPEAKER_03: I don't either you this this action that you've taken to try to convince somebody, to try to deter somebody, or whatever, it has zero effect anywhere, right?
17:10
SPEAKER_03: Because somebody is either has a really good reason to get up there, which they're giving themselves a pass, right?
17:16
SPEAKER_03: Or they're or they're just a complete dipshit, right?
17:19
SPEAKER_03: Whatever.
17:20
SPEAKER_03: And they're and they're not receptive anyway.
17:22
SPEAKER_03: So here's there isn't anything you're gonna say, there's anything you're gonna do that's gonna make a difference.
17:26
SPEAKER_03: So what are you getting all worked up for?
17:28
SPEAKER_03: Take a breath and let's carve it, for Christ's sake.
17:31
SPEAKER_00: Well, it's so funny to me because it's like I didn't realize that this is I should have known.
17:34
SPEAKER_00: I should have known.
17:35
SPEAKER_00: Michael Singer calls the traffic the low-hanging fruit, right?
17:38
SPEAKER_00: As you're as you're figuring out where to spend your energy, and I should have known to go there.
17:42
SPEAKER_00: I should have fucking known to start there, and I'm disappointed in myself for not understanding that.
17:45
SPEAKER_03: Because as we sit here, I'm astonished now.
17:48
SPEAKER_03: Like, how did you not even do that?
17:49
SPEAKER_00: I'm embarrassed, Cameron.
17:50
SPEAKER_00: This is this is my embarrassed face, right?
17:52
SPEAKER_00: I will start in the traffic.
17:54
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we will have these conversations because here's the thing.
17:57
SPEAKER_00: While people are going, wrong, wrong, you know, you're supposed to get over fucking two miles back into the one lane, and no one should ever.
18:04
SPEAKER_00: Here's what I'll maintain: lots of different scenarios.
18:07
SPEAKER_00: There are three on ramps in between the backups.
18:09
SPEAKER_00: So when you get on, what are you supposed to do?
18:11
SPEAKER_00: Right?
18:12
SPEAKER_00: You've got people that just cringe at those whole situations because you've got the assholes and the ones that are like, fuck you, I'm going up there, I'm going here, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
18:20
SPEAKER_00: It's funny to me because it's not, there is no like, it is what it is.
18:24
SPEAKER_00: People just are losing their minds.
18:26
SPEAKER_03: Well, there's they're spinning out on all the Skittles that are laying in the road, they've been thrown out the window.
18:31
SPEAKER_00: Oh my God.
18:32
SPEAKER_00: It's so true.
18:33
SPEAKER_00: When you realize, and especially, I I've started working with someone recently who is is understanding the traffic because he spends a lot of time in his car.
18:43
SPEAKER_00: If you waste so much energy because of your lack of emotional intelligence on something as simple as traffic, because you can't handle traffic, and traffic is something that you know happens every day.
18:54
SPEAKER_00: Think about all of that energy that you waste that you just took from your kiddos or your partner or yourself, because those only get spent one time.
19:03
SPEAKER_00: Right.
19:03
SPEAKER_00: And you've just now wasted them ready to burn your life to the ground.
19:09
SPEAKER_00: I I did a post about like, and I'm being funny because this is what you know, Britney and I do about like, if you're not happy with how someone's driving, just roll down the window and do a thumbs up or a thumbs down.
19:19
SPEAKER_00: And some guy goes, You're gonna get shot.
19:21
SPEAKER_00: And I thought, you know what?
19:23
SPEAKER_00: Maybe, but maybe you're absolutely right.
19:26
SPEAKER_00: There was another comment from a guy that said, like, I did that one time because I thought it was funny, and the dude is next to me, is losing his mind, swaving his handgun out the window.
19:33
SPEAKER_00: And I just thought, what kind of lunatic is that?
19:37
SPEAKER_00: What kind of lunatic is willing to burn his whole life to the ground?
19:41
SPEAKER_00: Because yes, we're the Wild West out here in Arizona, but you can't just brandish a weapon like that.
19:45
SPEAKER_00: Like, that'll get you in jail.
19:47
SPEAKER_03: That's that's frowned upon every single time.
19:49
SPEAKER_03: Every state.
19:50
SPEAKER_00: Every state, every single time.
19:51
SPEAKER_03: They they track you down.
19:52
SPEAKER_03: I yeah, I was at a customer's office one time when one of their employees had done that, and the cops came.
19:58
SPEAKER_03: They showed up at the office and they drug him away.
20:01
SPEAKER_00: As as they should have.
20:02
SPEAKER_00: Like, if you're gonna pull a gun, be prepared to use it.
20:04
SPEAKER_00: And if you're prepared to shoot somebody, yeah, because they cut you off, boss.
20:09
SPEAKER_00: Maybe let's talk about that time there your uncle touched you.
20:12
SPEAKER_00: I swear to fucking god.
20:13
SPEAKER_03: I know you're if that happens, there's probably more than once.
20:15
SPEAKER_00: Right, right, exactly.
20:17
SPEAKER_00: That is not just one thing.
20:18
SPEAKER_00: And here's the whole thing: people don't want to talk about all of that stuff that got them to the eight or the nine, right?
20:24
SPEAKER_00: We're fine, we're fine, rub some dirt on it, don't be a pussy.
20:27
SPEAKER_00: But the problem is if you realized, if you let that stuff go, that stuff that builds up to where you're at, an eight or a nine where you're willing to fucking throw your whole life away and watch, you know, have your kids watch you get arrested because the cops showed up your house because you lost your mind over fucking traffic.
20:42
SPEAKER_00: Maybe go ahead and take a breath.
20:44
SPEAKER_00: Maybe go ahead and take a breath.
20:46
SPEAKER_00: So that's my that's my call to action for the comedian.
20:48
SPEAKER_00: So Kevin Hart has started doing a thing on Netflix.
20:51
SPEAKER_00: We just started watching this recently, where he's doing uh, I don't know the name of the show, and but but it's like this concept of 20 comedians, stand-up comedians come, and he's gonna give an opportunity to whoever, and they, you know, they rank them and they move them forward to the next round and like all of that stuff.
21:08
SPEAKER_00: I highly encourage people to watch things that make them laugh.
21:11
SPEAKER_00: Stand-up comedians are the best.
21:14
SPEAKER_00: Like you and I have done this for years, where we go watch stand-up, we'll go watch the big shows, the little shows, we watch it on TV.
21:20
SPEAKER_00: Like I am always a fan of the stand-up comedy.
21:23
SPEAKER_00: And I love when they poke fun at everybody.
21:26
SPEAKER_00: And I don't care.
21:26
SPEAKER_00: I don't care when they're when they're making fun of white women in America.
21:30
SPEAKER_00: Fucking great.
21:30
SPEAKER_00: Say all the things, stay all the tyrical, you know, stereotypical things and whatever.
21:35
SPEAKER_00: I can handle it.
21:36
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
21:36
SPEAKER_00: Is some of it true?
21:37
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
21:38
SPEAKER_00: For me, right?
21:38
SPEAKER_00: Is some of it not?
21:39
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
21:40
SPEAKER_00: I laugh just the same at all of those things, but that's the stuff that checks you because you go, Oh, am I that dickhead that's going 12 miles under the speed limit in the left hand lane?
21:48
SPEAKER_00: Maybe let me, you know, exactly.
21:50
SPEAKER_00: And then do one of these.
21:52
SPEAKER_00: My bad.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: My bad.
21:54
SPEAKER_00: I also had someone in the comments say something about um, I used to believe that too, but I was wrong.
21:59
SPEAKER_00: And I almost Fell over.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: I was like, that's what I'm talking about.
22:02
SPEAKER_00: Like, when do we have more of that?
22:05
SPEAKER_00: Because if you look at in your life, I have gotten very comfortable apologizing, saying I'm wrong, understanding that I'm probably the problem in most cases.
22:13
SPEAKER_00: I have been my entire life.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: I spent a lot of decades thinking it was the other guy.
22:17
SPEAKER_00: I have now opened my eyes to understand that I'm the one causing my own suffering when it happens.
22:22
SPEAKER_03: That's not an aha moment.
22:23
SPEAKER_03: That's an oh shit moment.
22:24
SPEAKER_00: That's an oh shit moment.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
22:26
SPEAKER_00: So so and thank you for that, because that that absolutely was.
22:29
SPEAKER_00: But realizing that and then also having a self-awareness about things when you go like, oh, my Ben, right?
22:35
SPEAKER_00: Because if I'm sitting at a light and I'm not paying attention and somebody honks at me, I'm not a fucking Neanderthal who sticks my, you know, my middle finger out the window and flips them off when I was the one in the wrong.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: I wave and go whoopsie doodle and then I fucking lock it up and get in, you know, get in with traffic and keep it moving.
22:51
SPEAKER_00: But these people who are like you honk at them and they lose their minds.
22:54
SPEAKER_00: It's like, oh my God, boss.
22:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
22:56
SPEAKER_00: Well, you know.
22:56
SPEAKER_00: You gotta stop.
22:57
SPEAKER_03: I yeah, I I look at that and I think to myself, at least somebody's honking.
23:02
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so let's talk about this.
23:03
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so Cameron and I have lots of fun conversations.
23:06
SPEAKER_00: And if we're gonna lean into the traffic, let's lean all the way into the traffic.
23:09
SPEAKER_00: So Cameron and I will maintain that it's never the first guy that's the problem, right?
23:13
SPEAKER_00: You've got the one guy that's in the in the left-hand lane, he's going five, 10 miles an hour under the speed limit, like all the stuff.
23:19
SPEAKER_00: Yes, he's a ding-dong, yes, he's not paying attention.
23:21
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes that ding dong is me, sometimes that ding-dong is you.
23:23
SPEAKER_00: We've all been there, totally get it, right?
23:26
SPEAKER_00: It's not him that's the problem because every single one of us at some point in our time.
23:29
SPEAKER_00: We all know that guy's guy is.
23:31
SPEAKER_03: We're on the lookout for that guy.
23:32
SPEAKER_03: We know he's coming.
23:34
SPEAKER_00: That sits behind and doesn't do anything about it.
23:37
SPEAKER_00: Give that guy a beep.
23:38
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
23:39
SPEAKER_00: You know, get out of the way.
23:40
SPEAKER_01: Get out of the way, right?
23:41
SPEAKER_00: You know, whatever, hey, asshole.
23:43
SPEAKER_00: We know you're comfortable in the left-hand lane texting and sending all of your important grocery lists to, you know, family members or whatever.
23:48
SPEAKER_00: Get the fuck out of the way, get off the road, right?
23:51
SPEAKER_00: Don't pick up your phone.
23:52
SPEAKER_00: You know how lovely it is to drive your your car without your phone?
23:55
SPEAKER_00: Try it one time where you put it in the backseat and just drive.
23:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:00
SPEAKER_00: You know how great that is?
24:02
SPEAKER_00: I I do.
24:03
SPEAKER_00: I I look for opportunities to not have my phone.
24:05
SPEAKER_00: The the things that I enjoy doing most in my life are things that I can't take my phone into.
24:10
SPEAKER_00: Right?
24:11
SPEAKER_00: How beautiful is that.
24:12
SPEAKER_01: Oh no, I love it.
24:13
SPEAKER_01: That's great.
24:14
SPEAKER_00: Right.
24:14
SPEAKER_00: But I here's what I'm worried about because you don't get a 12-hour screen time per day by not having it in your hand all day.
24:20
SPEAKER_00: Right.
24:21
SPEAKER_00: Right?
24:21
SPEAKER_00: Because when you look at averages or you talk to people and you say, Tom, look, let's look at what your screen time is, and then they show you.
24:27
SPEAKER_00: It's like, oh, a lot of things.
24:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know it.
24:31
SPEAKER_03: I know it.
24:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:32
SPEAKER_00: So a lot of that's happening when we're driving, I guarantee it.
24:34
SPEAKER_03: I know.
24:35
SPEAKER_03: It a lot of that is happening when we're driving, right?
24:37
SPEAKER_03: But it's again back to the I I don't think maybe we hit hard enough on the it's it's not the first guy that's the problem.
24:45
SPEAKER_03: You you take over here.
24:47
SPEAKER_03: So you're sitting at the light and it turns green, right?
24:50
SPEAKER_03: And the guy that's first is supposed to be going and he's not going.
24:54
SPEAKER_03: He's just sitting there.
24:55
SPEAKER_03: He's off in La La Land, right?
24:57
SPEAKER_03: Now the guy behind him is probably getting frustrated or whatever, but he's not doing anything, right?
25:03
SPEAKER_03: And beyond that, nobody can see anything.
25:04
SPEAKER_03: There's too many cars in the way.
25:06
SPEAKER_03: You can't see what's holding up the traffic up there, right?
25:09
SPEAKER_03: Honk the fucking horn.
25:10
SPEAKER_03: Get that guy in front of you to go.
25:12
SPEAKER_03: If you're not doing that to get that guy to go, you're screwing everybody else that's behind you that can't see what's going on, right?
25:19
SPEAKER_03: Or like me, I'm so many damn cars back behind that I can honk the horn all I want to, and nobody knows what I'm honking at, right?
25:25
SPEAKER_03: So I'm not having any effect on the guy that's in the front.
25:28
SPEAKER_03: But if you're guy number two and you're watching that happen in front of you and you're not taking action, you are the problem.
25:35
SPEAKER_03: You're the problem every single time, right?
25:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:37
SPEAKER_03: I've, you know, another thing about that strikes me as hilarious.
25:41
SPEAKER_03: We were at the uh we were at the airport one time.
25:44
SPEAKER_03: You know, this is this is foot traffic, but it still counts as traffic.
25:47
SPEAKER_03: And we're going to the security lane, right?
25:50
SPEAKER_03: And we get to the part where everybody's taking their belongings and they're putting them on the conveyor belt, right?
25:56
SPEAKER_03: Right before you go through the metal detector or the you know, the imaging machine or or whatever it is that you go through there.
26:03
SPEAKER_03: And there's, you know, some guys taking an extraordinary amount of time trying to get every little last thing out of his pocket.
26:11
SPEAKER_03: And he's just struggling.
26:13
SPEAKER_03: And the line is building up and the line is building up, and he's just struggling, right?
26:18
SPEAKER_03: And the next guy, right behind that guy, turns to the rest of us and starts strugging, like, oh my God, what am I supposed to do?
26:25
SPEAKER_03: Run around him.
26:26
SPEAKER_03: And I start screaming, hey, go around him, asshole.
26:28
SPEAKER_03: It's not that old guy that's the problem.
26:30
SPEAKER_03: It's you.
26:31
SPEAKER_03: Now nobody knows what's going on, and you're plugging up the fucking works.
26:34
SPEAKER_03: It's your problem, right?
26:35
SPEAKER_03: So it's right, take action.
26:37
SPEAKER_03: Don't just sit there and watch stuff go on.
26:39
SPEAKER_03: You're plugging everything up for everybody else.
26:41
SPEAKER_03: It's it's it's on you when you're guy number two.
26:43
SPEAKER_03: Same way with that guy that's doing 40 miles an hour in the 55 on a on a two-lane highway.
26:49
SPEAKER_03: If you're guy number two, you've got to pass that guy.
26:52
SPEAKER_03: You have it doesn't matter if if you're too afraid to pass the guy, stay the fuck home.
26:56
SPEAKER_03: Don't drive your car.
26:57
SPEAKER_03: You're not you're not qualified.
26:59
SPEAKER_03: Take the bus, you know, or or or take the Potomobile and walk yourself around, right?
27:04
SPEAKER_03: But we don't do that as people.
27:06
SPEAKER_03: We don't go out there and and and and and screw everybody else because we're too timid and we're too afraid, right?
27:12
SPEAKER_03: And you shouldn't, you shouldn't take to the road with that mentality.
27:15
SPEAKER_00: Well, rightfully so though.
27:16
SPEAKER_00: If we're talking about the Yay hole that's fucking hanging out the window with this gun, you know, and and please understand, like I'm sitting on the couch with a Yay hole that kind of gets and I'm also a Yay hole as well.
27:27
SPEAKER_03: I've never once waved my gun at anybody in traffic.
27:30
SPEAKER_00: Not in traffic.
27:31
SPEAKER_03: Not in traffic.
27:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm not even gonna tell that.
27:34
SPEAKER_03: You don't have to tell that story.
27:37
SPEAKER_03: Which one?
27:37
SPEAKER_00: Like I've you know the one where you're standing on top of the vehicle is a big thing.
27:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, which yeah, which one?
27:41
SPEAKER_03: You weren't there.
27:42
SPEAKER_03: I told you about that.
27:45
SPEAKER_00: Cameron is a recovering Yay hole.
27:47
SPEAKER_03: Listen, we're gonna take the fifth on that.
27:49
SPEAKER_00: Well, here's and here's the thing to understand.
27:51
SPEAKER_00: We're all in this together.
27:52
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
27:52
SPEAKER_00: We're all messy as fuck.
27:54
SPEAKER_00: When I when I come on and I say the different things that I say, I do them, I do the same things.
27:58
SPEAKER_00: I fuck up, I make mistakes, I do all the things.
28:01
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28:45
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28:49
SPEAKER_03: You know, I I had forgotten about the barking dog situation, and I'm gonna bring that home a little bit further, also about being the second guy.
28:56
SPEAKER_03: If you are a person who lives next to somebody that has a barking dog and you don't go take care of that problem, fuck you, right?
29:05
SPEAKER_03: That causes a problem that's it permeates through the neighborhood, right?
29:09
SPEAKER_03: And everybody else's dog starts barking and it starts barking and it starts spreading.
29:13
SPEAKER_03: And those goddamn dogs, they don't want to bark.
29:15
SPEAKER_03: You know, it doesn't make them happy to bark.
29:17
SPEAKER_03: They bark because they're nervous, they're on edge, they don't want to do that.
29:21
SPEAKER_03: And so if somebody's dog continues to bark, it's a nuisance for everyone.
29:25
SPEAKER_03: And if you live right next door to it and you ignore it because you're afraid to go confront the person or for for whatever reason, I don't care.
29:33
SPEAKER_03: Fuck you.
29:34
SPEAKER_03: You're the you're you need to go away.
29:35
SPEAKER_03: You're a problem on levels that I can't even explain because it causes problems way further beyond your reach that you're not even taking into consideration while you sit there and do nothing.
29:46
SPEAKER_03: It's not right to put that on everybody else.
29:48
SPEAKER_00: You know, the number two guy is a really powerful observation, not just in traffic, but in other things in life.
29:54
SPEAKER_03: It's everywhere.
29:55
SPEAKER_00: And also, I realize why you wouldn't want to do that because we do have lunatics that are out there that make you nervous because there's lunatics where you know they they just they don't they're not normal and they don't keep things without you know doing damage.
30:09
SPEAKER_00: And that's okay.
30:10
SPEAKER_00: But know that the number two spot is an important spot to be in, and you have to do that.
30:15
SPEAKER_00: And we're all in the number two spot all the time in life.
30:17
SPEAKER_03: It's like playing third base at the blackjack table.
30:22
SPEAKER_03: Right?
30:22
SPEAKER_03: Right?
30:23
SPEAKER_03: When you're playing third base at the blackjack table, you have to know what you're doing, right?
30:27
SPEAKER_03: You have to act because your play screws everybody if you're not doing it right, right?
30:34
SPEAKER_03: So you it's important if you're gonna play third base at the blackjack table, step up, right?
30:39
SPEAKER_03: And if you don't know what you're doing, don't sit there.
30:41
SPEAKER_00: Right.
30:41
SPEAKER_03: Don't sit there.
30:42
SPEAKER_00: And don't play on feelings, right?
30:44
SPEAKER_00: Like if you're if you're third at blackjack or third base at blackjack, you better be fucking playing book.
30:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
30:51
SPEAKER_03: You better, right?
30:52
SPEAKER_03: And if you don't know, ask, right?
30:54
SPEAKER_03: And if you don't know how to do that, don't play the game or don't sit there.
30:57
SPEAKER_03: Go sit at first base, right?
30:59
SPEAKER_03: Go sit, go sit in the middle, something go sit at the kitty table, right?
31:02
SPEAKER_03: Or go play roulette, right?
31:03
SPEAKER_00: You know, a lot of people just don't have the stomach for stuff.
31:06
SPEAKER_00: And I know that we've been talking about that recently of just not having the stomach for things, and I get it, but you know, don't be out here mucking it up for the fucking rest of us.
31:15
SPEAKER_00: Right again, people make mistakes.
31:16
SPEAKER_00: You can say, My bad, you don't have to get defensive.
31:19
SPEAKER_00: You know, the defensive component of it for me is is really big, and I've we've talked about this a lot on different episodes as well.
31:25
SPEAKER_00: Um being defensive is just a blanket trigger, and I will maintain fix your shit.
31:29
SPEAKER_00: Right?
31:30
SPEAKER_00: If you're getting defensive because somebody honked at you instead of like, oh shit, I must have been doing something bad, they're not honking at you because you're in a fucking parade princess.
31:37
SPEAKER_00: They're honking at you because you've fucking done something wrong.
31:40
SPEAKER_00: Right.
31:40
SPEAKER_00: And that's okay, right?
31:42
SPEAKER_00: We're not being scored at at the end of the, you know, scored for it at the end of the day or or stoned for it or any of that shit.
31:47
SPEAKER_00: But you don't need to flip people off or get crazy or like any of the things.
31:50
SPEAKER_00: You can just wave and say, my bad, and fucking keep it moving, right?
31:53
SPEAKER_03: Yep, that's the idea.
31:54
SPEAKER_00: Oh my God.
31:56
SPEAKER_00: What else is the number two thing apply to?
31:58
SPEAKER_00: Because that's actually a fun concept to really think about is the number two spot.
32:02
SPEAKER_00: And maybe there's other and maybe not, right?
32:04
SPEAKER_00: Like maybe as we're talking, you'll think about other things that come in.
32:08
SPEAKER_03: Right.
32:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
32:08
SPEAKER_03: Well, we can yeah, we keep discussing and see what comes up after that.
32:13
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
32:13
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
32:14
SPEAKER_00: Um, so we're talking about the whole, you know, comedians, sensitivity.
32:20
SPEAKER_00: You know, what are some other things that on the on the topic of that that you can think about where it's like, okay, how else do we provide some comic relief or how else do we become aware of it?
32:30
SPEAKER_00: How else do we relieve some pressure besides the comedy component of it?
32:35
SPEAKER_00: Because when people are at an eight or a nine, you don't want to get anywhere near them.
32:38
SPEAKER_03: Right.
32:39
SPEAKER_00: Right?
32:40
SPEAKER_03: Which is, you know, the dudes in traffic that are fucking we're and we're probably past joking around about things at that point.
32:47
SPEAKER_00: Well, we're I think we're past joking around about things right now.
32:49
SPEAKER_00: That's why I said when I'm looking at this, we're past that.
32:52
SPEAKER_00: We can't just say, you know what?
32:54
SPEAKER_00: Yep, I was a fuck tart in that situation.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: My bad.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: Right?
32:57
SPEAKER_00: No, it's murder.
32:58
SPEAKER_00: People just go straight to murder.
33:01
SPEAKER_00: What is happening?
33:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's it's bizarre.
33:05
SPEAKER_03: I uh I can't get my head around that one.
33:09
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I don't I've always maintained that the the answer to a lot of our problems is not to be you know hyper-aware of things, it's to desensitize many of those things, right?
33:32
SPEAKER_03: And I I'm not I'm not gonna I hate to use a political example because it's just I know it leaves me dry.
33:42
SPEAKER_03: I know, I know, I know, I know.
33:44
SPEAKER_03: But I don't know a better one.
33:45
SPEAKER_03: And so and I'm bringing politics in.
33:47
SPEAKER_03: And so, well, I'm not I'm not gonna do that.
33:49
SPEAKER_03: But but I'm going to say that I felt like when we had uh we had Barack Obama was our president, right?
33:57
SPEAKER_03: And he's the first black president of the United States, and so he had this unique POV, right?
34:04
SPEAKER_03: And when he got up there and he talked to, he didn't talk to, he talked at us, right?
34:09
SPEAKER_03: Because he was always trying to teach us lessons about shit.
34:12
SPEAKER_03: But he would, he would, he would tell us about how we got to be aware of this and aware of that, and but and I think a lot of this hyper awareness that we have nowadays, you know, right down to people's pronouns and and shit like that, is it started there, right?
34:28
SPEAKER_03: There was a big if it didn't start there, it certainly got a big, a big boost, a big shot in the arm there during during that that period of time for us as Americans.
34:38
SPEAKER_03: And I, you know, I played along like everybody else did, you know, and I I I similarly got to the point where I thought to myself, this is absolutely ridiculous, because I got to the point where I don't want to have a conversation with you because I don't want to have to be aware of this whole host of things that could be going on with you, right?
35:00
SPEAKER_03: That I'm somehow gonna, I've got to tip through, tiptoe through your triggers and and somehow fuck that.
35:06
SPEAKER_03: I'm not I'm not doing that.
35:07
SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, in most cases, I don't even want to know a person that well, right?
35:11
SPEAKER_03: Just let me order my fucking cheeseburger and get on with my life, right?
35:15
SPEAKER_03: I don't want to have to worry about what I may say that offends you when ordering off your menu, yeah, right?
35:22
SPEAKER_03: Like, forget it.
35:23
SPEAKER_03: I'm not I'm not doing that.
35:24
SPEAKER_03: And so I think there's a whole bunch of people that have similarly shared that frustration, right?
35:30
SPEAKER_03: It's impossible for us to be hyperaware of all this garbage, right?
35:34
SPEAKER_03: So don't tell us we have to.
35:35
SPEAKER_03: It's retarded.
35:36
SPEAKER_00: I'm just trying, yeah, exactly.
35:37
SPEAKER_00: I'm just trying to live my own messy fucking life over here.
35:39
SPEAKER_00: I cannot pay attention to what your pronouns are or how you want me to adjust the English dictionary so that you're comfortable.
35:45
SPEAKER_00: That's a use thing, not a me thing.
35:47
SPEAKER_03: I don't care how you think or feel.
35:48
SPEAKER_03: Can we just get our transaction done?
35:50
SPEAKER_03: Like I don't, I don't know.
35:51
SPEAKER_00: Well, and I think there's and I think there's I think there's things that are make it appropriate depending on what it is.
35:57
SPEAKER_00: If you have somebody at your table of life that has stuff like that going on, then a thousand percent you should punch in and you should understand that person and all of the things.
36:05
SPEAKER_00: If that person is important to you, right?
36:07
SPEAKER_00: But when I go to a college as an example, this is the first time that I heard this happen.
36:13
SPEAKER_00: When we were taking one of the kiddos to a college orientation, and the gal that led was telling us her pronouns, and I just thought, why would I need to know that nugget of information?
36:24
SPEAKER_00: Right?
36:25
SPEAKER_00: She like I don't understand, and and maybe that's the ding-dong in me.
36:31
SPEAKER_00: I'm not ever going to see this person again or reference her or like any of that, any of that at all.
36:37
SPEAKER_00: Why are why are we doing this?
36:38
SPEAKER_03: I don't know, but here's here's a question.
36:40
SPEAKER_03: This that I was thinking about earlier.
36:42
SPEAKER_03: So okay, yes.
36:44
SPEAKER_03: Uh I don't personally know anybody that goes by pronouns other than the traditional ones, right?
36:54
SPEAKER_03: I I don't know that I've met anybody like that.
36:57
SPEAKER_03: And I meet people all the time.
36:59
SPEAKER_03: Like that's kind of one of my things.
37:01
SPEAKER_03: And I've never met anybody like that.
37:04
SPEAKER_03: And so the joke's on all of us because here we are, you know, tiptoeing over something that doesn't exist, right?
37:11
SPEAKER_03: I see plenty of people that have the traditional pronouns that sign their emails, like these are my pronouns, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
37:18
SPEAKER_03: But I've never actually met somebody that has a different one, right?
37:22
SPEAKER_03: And so I'm not saying they're not out there.
37:24
SPEAKER_03: Obviously, there's right.
37:25
SPEAKER_00: Please don't write into the show.
37:27
SPEAKER_00: I don't need to hear about this, that my husband is a ding-dong.
37:29
SPEAKER_00: I get it.
37:29
SPEAKER_03: There's one on the North Pole or something, or you know, who knows where.
37:32
SPEAKER_03: But uh, but but whatever, uh, but I don't want to be told that I have to be sensitive to something like that that's going to affect me almost never.
37:45
SPEAKER_03: I don't need that noodling around in my head, and nobody else does, right?
37:49
SPEAKER_03: It's not appropriate to do that, right?
37:51
SPEAKER_03: You know, screw you guys for for for making us have to think about stupid shit like that, you know, you know, and then whatever.
37:58
SPEAKER_03: You can put all that judgment on me.
37:59
SPEAKER_03: You can send send your feedback towards me.
38:01
SPEAKER_03: I don't, I don't, I don't subscribe to it, you know, and and I'm and I'm and I'm not really sorry about that.
38:07
SPEAKER_03: But that's more of those these things.
38:09
SPEAKER_03: I don't expect anybody to be hyper aware of the things that I think or the things that I feel or the things that I might or might not do.
38:16
SPEAKER_03: I don't, I don't, I don't care, right?
38:19
SPEAKER_03: We're just like like Ann says, we're we're just messy people, you know, living our messy lives and and whatever, and stuff's gonna get on anybody that gets around us, right?
38:28
SPEAKER_03: That's just how that's gonna be, and that's the and that's true for everybody, right?
38:32
SPEAKER_03: You're not going to, you're not gonna live clean enough where you're not getting your stuff on somebody, right?
38:37
SPEAKER_03: And you're not gonna live clean enough where somebody else's stuff isn't gonna get on you, right?
38:41
SPEAKER_03: So you might as well just understand that right off the bat, take take a deep breath and understand, yeah, you're gonna have to shower at the end of the day.
38:51
SPEAKER_03: Maybe, maybe twice, depending depending on what your day leads you to, right?
38:55
SPEAKER_03: But it doesn't, it doesn't being being hyper-aware of things isn't isn't gonna make it any better for anybody, right?
39:01
SPEAKER_03: So, but if we can give each other the business and we can desensitize all of those things, then we don't need to be hyper-aware anymore, right?
39:11
SPEAKER_03: Then we're not we're no longer sensitive to to those things.
39:14
SPEAKER_03: We're no longer sensitive to the insults, we're no longer sensitive to the, you know, you didn't use my right pronoun, we're no longer sensitive to the other things that might offend us about you know politics or social issues or any of those things because we understand that hey, I know you're not perfect, and I know I'm not perfect.
39:31
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna give you a pass, you're gonna give me a pass, and we're getting along just fine, right?
39:35
SPEAKER_03: And we're not we're not we're not gonna get on each other's nerves in it.
39:38
SPEAKER_03: That's the way it's supposed to be, you know.
39:40
SPEAKER_00: I I think I think it's important to remind all ourselves that we're not all meant to agree on everything.
39:47
SPEAKER_01: Agreed.
39:48
unknown: Agreed.
39:50
SPEAKER_00: And and what a and what a beautiful thing that is, right?
39:53
SPEAKER_00: And also, then we just you know, stand up for what it is that we believe in.
39:58
SPEAKER_00: Stay in our own freaking lane.
40:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right?
40:01
SPEAKER_00: Try to not plant your tree in somebody else's yard.
40:03
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
40:03
SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Jason Lamar.
40:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't want to tell anybody how to live their lives.
40:10
SPEAKER_03: I don't want anybody to tell me how to live my life.
40:12
SPEAKER_03: I'm not do you you do you, and I'm I'm gonna do me, and and we're just gonna be fine, right?
40:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
40:19
SPEAKER_00: Tell me what comes up for you when you think about, you know, when you start talking about the pronoun thing, and like I just want to live my own life, and like I don't want people telling me whatever.
40:28
SPEAKER_00: You're you're to me, I look at um, you know, this 50-year-old white man in America.
40:35
SPEAKER_00: And and you guys have been taking some heat for some for some time.
40:39
SPEAKER_00: You've been taking some pretty good heat for a while.
40:42
SPEAKER_03: I just didn't didn't realize I was the boogeyman until recently, right?
40:45
SPEAKER_00: Right.
40:45
SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm just I'm I'm curious about what that makes you feel like because I look at it from the standpoint of uh uh you're an easy uh it's yeah, right, low low-hanging fruit if you're looking for somebody to claim made you a victim, right?
41:00
SPEAKER_03: And and I don't subscribe to it.
41:02
SPEAKER_03: So while while yes, I see that, and it's you know, the uh you know, there's a stereotype out there about the the man hating lesbians, Subaru driving Karen's of the world, you know, and and those those ones they hate they hate people like me a lot, right?
41:23
SPEAKER_03: And and that's fine.
41:24
SPEAKER_03: You know, I don't I don't oh Harry Legs too, because I can't can't can't forget they have that in the stereotype also, you know.
41:31
SPEAKER_03: Um by and large, it doesn't bother me because I don't care, right?
41:39
SPEAKER_03: I that doesn't none of that means anything to me in my world.
41:44
SPEAKER_03: Um I have a pretty good support group of people that tell me when I'm fucking up.
41:53
SPEAKER_03: And uh and I get that, right?
41:55
SPEAKER_03: And I'm a lot more receptive to that nowadays than uh than than I used to, and I'm I'm pretty happy that uh that those people that helped to keep me in check are still there and still uh willing to help to keep me in check.
42:11
SPEAKER_03: I'm sure they get a lot of uh entertainment out of that certain times, you know, and I'm sure it's a lot of work other times, but regardless, I appreciate their presence, right?
42:22
SPEAKER_03: But as it relates to the, you know, this this whole thing where we bash the the white guys and the you know and successful people, right?
42:30
SPEAKER_03: There's this whole thing where we we hate successful people now, and we need to wear just go burn them at the stake and take all their shit, right?
42:38
SPEAKER_03: They're the worst, they're the worst, right?
42:40
SPEAKER_03: Like all those people that are out there providing jobs for everybody, and all those people whose charity helps the nonprofits, and you know, all like all those terrible people that do all that stuff.
42:50
SPEAKER_03: Like, let's let's go get them, right?
42:52
SPEAKER_03: And see what see what happens after that.
42:53
SPEAKER_03: They're just just burn them at the stake, right?
42:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I understand that the world doesn't turn without those successful people, and I think that success should be celebrated no matter what, right?
43:07
SPEAKER_03: You can't you can't bag on somebody for wanting to do something and then succeeding at that.
43:13
SPEAKER_03: That should be an inspiration for everybody, right?
43:16
SPEAKER_03: And the higher the level of success should be the higher level of celebration for those people.
43:21
SPEAKER_03: Like what were I I mean, there people hate Jeff Bezos, whatever.
43:25
SPEAKER_03: But what would your life be without Amazon?
43:27
SPEAKER_03: I mean, most people have a positive view of Amazon and what it does for them and their lives, right?
43:34
SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's great.
43:36
SPEAKER_03: That guy did to logistics what nobody else could have ever done for logistics, you know, just a hippie dude that want to go sell his books and look what he turned that thing into, you know?
43:46
SPEAKER_03: Holy shit.
43:47
SPEAKER_03: But there are people that they just want to eat that guy, right?
43:51
SPEAKER_03: What's the matter with you?
43:54
SPEAKER_03: I just don't get it, right?
43:56
SPEAKER_03: So, but all those guys that have done those things to be successful, they Should be celebrated.
44:00
SPEAKER_03: They should be celebrated for success.
44:03
SPEAKER_03: And it's it's probably easy for me to say that as what you know I think of myself as a successful person, right?
44:14
SPEAKER_03: And so I know what it takes, I know what it takes to be successful.
44:18
SPEAKER_03: And so when I see that, right, I can celebrate that.
44:21
SPEAKER_03: And I feel like maybe it's the people that have never been successful that look at successful people and they try to tear those people down.
44:28
SPEAKER_03: They don't understand what it takes to get there.
44:31
SPEAKER_03: And therefore, you know, it's it's something that they feel like they can attack, right?
44:35
SPEAKER_03: But for for successful people, it's it's hard to do that, you know.
44:39
SPEAKER_03: It's really love people or hate people when they succeed.
44:43
SPEAKER_03: If you're a successful person, it's hard to say it's hard to take that away from them, you know.
44:48
SPEAKER_03: It just is, right?
44:50
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know why people always hate that though.
44:53
SPEAKER_00: It's like it's like um they vilify.
44:57
SPEAKER_03: They do, yeah.
44:58
SPEAKER_00: And and I just think that that's really sad.
45:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:01
SPEAKER_00: Because it doesn't encourage people to want to put in the work to be successful.
45:05
SPEAKER_00: Um because you're just gonna get brutalized when you are, or or judged, or like all of the things, and also who cares?
45:14
SPEAKER_00: But it just it it it doesn't feel it doesn't feel great as a society that that's the place that we the stance that we take.
45:21
SPEAKER_03: Agreed, right.
45:22
SPEAKER_03: It's probably, you know.
45:26
SPEAKER_03: There are there are many people that have you know many theories on how a a feeling or a sentiment about, you know, let's eat the rich, how that even that how that even comes to bear in a society, right?
45:39
SPEAKER_03: There's lots of different ways that people, you know, wonder or or they think about how that can come to terms.
45:46
SPEAKER_03: But uh, you know, at the end of the day, it's it's a decay in society, right?
45:50
SPEAKER_03: That's uh that's that's a bad thing.
45:52
SPEAKER_03: We shouldn't try to tear any anybody down, right?
45:55
SPEAKER_03: Especially the people that are ex excelling.
45:58
SPEAKER_03: And so we're just just looking at that from a from a critical standpoint about why would we do that, it just falls apart and it and it makes no sense.
46:07
SPEAKER_03: And so I I would I would I would challenge anyone that if they they feel like that's the most appropriate thing, they might, you know, let's take a look at that and see what what really that is, where really that came from and and and what was the what was the purpose of of of that person, you know, trying to promote that thought or promote that feeling or spread that sentiment as as it is, you know.
46:30
SPEAKER_00: You know, one of the things that you say that I always that always makes me really happy is is the uh the things that people can't change, you know.
46:39
SPEAKER_00: So, so when we talk about, you know, we're we're brutalizing the poor white man right now, uh which is okay, right?
46:46
SPEAKER_00: But but you didn't get to choose, right?
46:48
SPEAKER_00: You came out with the paint job that you know, paint job that the big guy assigned you.
46:53
SPEAKER_01: And I love that.
46:54
SPEAKER_00: And that's and that yeah, Cameron Cameron calls the big guy Chewy.
46:57
SPEAKER_00: Um so you you came out with the paint job that Chewy assigned you, and same with the, you know, like I I'm a I'm a white woman.
47:05
SPEAKER_00: I don't get to I don't get to pick that, right?
47:07
SPEAKER_00: Do I want to be a woman every day?
47:09
SPEAKER_00: Not a chance.
47:09
SPEAKER_00: Do I want to?
47:10
SPEAKER_03: You can just change your gender just like everybody else says, right?
47:14
SPEAKER_03: Jesus Christ.
47:16
SPEAKER_00: You know.
47:17
SPEAKER_00: Anyways, you make it hard to move on after that.
47:20
SPEAKER_00: But but you know, I don't get to pick.
47:22
SPEAKER_00: I I didn't get to pick.
47:23
SPEAKER_00: I didn't get to, you know, I didn't get to have a box that I say, oh, I would much I would much rather prefer to be brown or black or or you know, different ethnicity.
47:31
SPEAKER_00: I didn't get that.
47:32
SPEAKER_00: And so it's like, why are we brutalizing one another for that?
47:35
SPEAKER_00: You know, why are we coming from this place where you know people still are discriminating on any of those things?
47:40
SPEAKER_00: Like, why are we still having those conversations?
47:42
SPEAKER_00: I guess that's the other part of it.
47:43
SPEAKER_00: I don't understand why we're still having conversations that have been going on for forever.
47:47
SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, we talk about social issues and we talk about abortion as an example.
47:51
SPEAKER_00: Why are we still talking about this?
47:53
SPEAKER_03: Well, there's there's just one reason because it's a it along with like other items we can talk about.
48:03
SPEAKER_03: It's a polarizing issue.
48:05
SPEAKER_03: You there is no gray area there.
48:07
SPEAKER_03: It's either you're okay with it or you're not okay with it, right?
48:11
SPEAKER_00: But you don't have to be okay with it to not, you know, like if you don't, if you don't agree with abortion, here's how you get back at it.
48:17
SPEAKER_00: Don't have one, don't have an abortion.
48:19
SPEAKER_01: Right.
48:19
SPEAKER_00: Right?
48:20
SPEAKER_00: Like, I I don't I just don't understand why that's so hard for people.
48:23
SPEAKER_00: I get it.
48:23
SPEAKER_00: You think it's killing babies.
48:25
SPEAKER_00: If you don't agree with it, then excellent.
48:26
SPEAKER_00: Then don't do that, right?
48:28
SPEAKER_00: But it's not your right to come in somebody else's lane and tell them what they have to do because you don't walk a day in their shoes and you don't understand that that's already the hardest decision that that woman's gonna have to fucking make.
48:38
SPEAKER_00: And the last thing she needs is you as a fuck tart up in her lane, telling her what she can and can't fucking do.
48:44
SPEAKER_00: And I'm using that word appropriately there as well.
48:46
SPEAKER_03: Everybody knows that, right?
48:47
SPEAKER_03: But the the the reason why we haven't solved that as people is because it carries very high political currency, right?
48:56
SPEAKER_03: Because it's divisive, and you can you can you can get somebody that's on one side or the other of that issue real fired up real fast, and you can get them to do what you want them to do when you get them real fired up real fast about that, right?
49:10
SPEAKER_03: When you when you control how people think, you can control how they act.
49:14
SPEAKER_03: And so those divisive issues that are polarizing, like like abortion for one, will never get settled and it will never die because it's so valuable as political currency.
49:25
SPEAKER_03: Period.
49:26
SPEAKER_03: No other reason.
49:27
SPEAKER_00: Don't you don't you think people should open their eyes a little bit to that whole situation and understand that you're all just being rage-baited?
49:33
SPEAKER_00: You're all you're all just being manipulated.
49:35
SPEAKER_03: We we the people are fucking retarded, right?
49:38
SPEAKER_03: There's we can't get out of our own way, and we'll never be able to say, yep, it's it's it's me.
49:44
SPEAKER_00: Pretty sure I'm turning that into a bumper sticker.
49:46
SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm getting the shirts made already.
49:48
SPEAKER_03: Like I've got the design and everything, right?
49:50
SPEAKER_03: It's just it's just true.
49:52
SPEAKER_00: But it's like, what is happening?
49:54
SPEAKER_00: And I guess that's the that's my point.
49:55
SPEAKER_00: Is like I look at people that get all worked up on social media, and it's like, you realize you can just walk around dog shit, right?
50:00
SPEAKER_00: Like, if why are you why are you doing this?
50:03
SPEAKER_00: You're looking for things to be really angry about?
50:06
SPEAKER_00: Like, you realize you can just put down your phone and go outside, right?
50:08
SPEAKER_03: I don't understand the Skittles quotient of it.
50:10
SPEAKER_03: They haven't read the Life Hack playbook.
50:13
SPEAKER_00: I'll give up.
50:14
SPEAKER_00: It's just true.
50:15
SPEAKER_00: Listen, to to every, you know what I should do?
50:18
SPEAKER_00: To every person that was in my comment section about the whole zipper merge, I should just send them an audible version and just hey boss, that's this one's on me.
50:26
SPEAKER_00: This one's on me.
50:27
SPEAKER_00: Sending mad respect and much love, you know.
50:30
SPEAKER_00: Because here's the whole thing.
50:32
SPEAKER_00: I fucking love white dudes.
50:33
SPEAKER_00: I love 50-year-old white guys.
50:35
SPEAKER_00: You guys are my fucking favorite.
50:37
SPEAKER_00: But I'm tired of you bleeding in the dark all over everybody that didn't cut you.
50:40
SPEAKER_00: Right.
50:41
SPEAKER_00: And I'm here to be part of the solution.
50:42
SPEAKER_00: I swear to God I am.
50:44
SPEAKER_00: But we got to start by having some real conversations about why you're at an eight or a nine already.
50:50
SPEAKER_03: 100%.
50:51
SPEAKER_00: Right?
50:52
SPEAKER_00: Because I will maintain that that's the biggest problem and what we have going on in society is people are walking around at an eight or a nine, not just men, not just, you know, whatever.
51:02
SPEAKER_00: Eight or a nine, and you bump into them once or twice, and it just over the edge.
51:06
SPEAKER_00: That's where that's where dudes go fucking get guns and go blow up HOA meetings.
51:11
SPEAKER_00: 100%, right?
51:12
SPEAKER_00: Like, like you want to fix the problem about school shooters and all of that kind of stuff.
51:17
SPEAKER_00: Let's just talk to our dudes and help them process some of that shit so that they're not carrying around all of that invisible weight because I will maintain 1,000% that's not fair for them to do that.
51:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I like your use of traffic as an as a really good way to show people just how worked up they really are underneath because it doesn't take very much interaction on a subject like that before, like you said, people in your comment section.
51:58
SPEAKER_03: Right, they go they go to murder, they're just absolutely just losing their shit.
52:03
SPEAKER_01: I've never seen anything like it.
52:04
SPEAKER_03: It's it's right, it's crazy.
52:06
SPEAKER_03: It's embarrassing.
52:07
SPEAKER_03: It it it should be, right?
52:10
SPEAKER_03: And maybe some people that are you know there, they have no shame anyway, and maybe maybe maybe they're not salvageable as far as that goes.
52:17
SPEAKER_03: But if if if you're willing to look, right?
52:21
SPEAKER_03: Maybe you have one of those people that's in your support system that says, Did you really just tell somebody to go murder themselves?
52:30
SPEAKER_03: Right over traffic over over traffic, right?
52:34
SPEAKER_03: Like maybe you should kind of you know noodle around in yourself and see what's going on in there that would make you get to that point, right?
52:42
SPEAKER_03: So that's a you know, it's nice to have like like it sounds stupid because here you are rage baiting or or whatever, right?
52:50
SPEAKER_03: But it's it's nice to have these types of subjects where it brings whatever that that underlying level right to the surface, right?
52:58
SPEAKER_03: It's nice to have those as an indicator that it it's there, right?
53:03
SPEAKER_03: You're not you know, it's not just words at that point.
53:06
SPEAKER_03: You can actually see it, right?
53:07
SPEAKER_03: And when you can actually see it and go, oh shit, yeah, you know, oh what what where is that coming from?
53:14
SPEAKER_03: You know, then you've started, right?
53:16
SPEAKER_03: That's the path, right?
53:17
SPEAKER_00: Here's my PSA announcement as it relates to zipper merging and traffic patterns.
53:24
SPEAKER_03: Uh oh.
53:25
SPEAKER_00: So it doesn't matter, gentlemen and ladies.
53:28
SPEAKER_00: There might have been one lady in there.
53:30
SPEAKER_00: She's probably no lady, no offense.
53:33
SPEAKER_00: Uh if you're losing your shit about where to merge, when to merge, cutting people off, blocking people, your anger, you know, your anger arises.
53:43
SPEAKER_00: Please get curious about that.
53:45
SPEAKER_00: It's not about the traffic.
53:47
SPEAKER_00: Um figure out what that is because the Skittles that you're throwing around, your wife would probably love them.
53:53
SPEAKER_00: Your kiddos probably would love to throw the ball with you instead of you losing your mind and then talking about the fucked up traffic for the rest of your day.
54:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
54:02
SPEAKER_00: If you do an inventory, just do a little inventory about how much energy you waste on traffic and bitching about it.
54:09
SPEAKER_00: And I can't tell you, once you realize it, once you know that that's your resource, your commodity, that's yours that you get to spend however you want to, you'll spend it a different way, I promise you.
54:20
SPEAKER_00: I've watched as guys have understood that, have had aha moments, and have gotten it, and now have no anger when they're on the road.
54:26
SPEAKER_00: Right.
54:27
SPEAKER_00: I was driving with you the other day and I was like, who is this king?
54:30
SPEAKER_00: That was just I can't tell you how amazed I was by your progress as it relates to that.
54:35
SPEAKER_00: And I don't give a shit what you say.
54:36
SPEAKER_00: You don't have to you can be sheepish sheepish about it if you want to.
54:39
SPEAKER_00: It was amazing.
54:40
SPEAKER_00: I was I was so proud of you because it's like you're not wasting those fucking Skittles on traffic because you're not emotionally intelligent enough to handle the fact that traffic happens every goddamn day.
54:48
SPEAKER_00: Calm your tits.
54:50
SPEAKER_03: Well, I can fix it for everybody.
54:51
SPEAKER_03: It's just, it's just it's simple, right?
54:53
SPEAKER_00: Oh my God.
54:54
SPEAKER_00: Hold on.
54:54
SPEAKER_00: Let me get the popcorn.
54:55
SPEAKER_00: Okay, go.
54:56
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
54:56
SPEAKER_03: So instead of driving and looking for a reason to get pissed off, right?
55:01
SPEAKER_03: Why don't you drive and look for a way that you can do something courteous on a road?
55:06
SPEAKER_03: Just one on a way to work.
55:07
SPEAKER_03: Just try it, you know?
55:08
SPEAKER_03: When you come up to the stoplight and there's two lanes going in your direction, and there's nobody at the light, why don't you get over in a left-hand lane in case somebody that's coming up behind you wants to turn right?
55:18
SPEAKER_03: Just get out of the way.
55:19
SPEAKER_03: Do something simple, do something nice like that, right?
55:22
SPEAKER_03: There are hundreds of opportunities to be courteous, to do something cool, whatever on your way to work, right?
55:29
SPEAKER_03: You see that guy that's hauling ass, you know, coming up behind you.
55:33
SPEAKER_03: Move over.
55:35
SPEAKER_03: Maybe he's late to work.
55:36
SPEAKER_03: If he doesn't get there, he's gonna get fired.
55:38
SPEAKER_03: I don't know what that dude has going on, but you know what?
55:40
SPEAKER_03: It's so important to that guy that he's willing to go a hundred and something miles an hour down the freeway.
55:46
SPEAKER_03: I'm getting out of that dude's way is way more important than what I got going on.
55:50
SPEAKER_03: You're not gonna block him and go fuck him.
55:52
SPEAKER_03: Let's see how this goes.
55:56
SPEAKER_03: Look what I'm gonna do, right?
55:58
SPEAKER_03: Fucking America.
55:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like stop it, right?
56:02
SPEAKER_03: Just be cool, get out of the way and let him go do his thing, right?
56:05
SPEAKER_03: Just like everything else.
56:07
SPEAKER_03: Get out of the fucking right-hand lane.
56:09
SPEAKER_03: Just let somebody buy, let them go do their thing, you know.
56:11
SPEAKER_03: Just look for ways like that.
56:13
SPEAKER_03: Just just one, you know, on your way to work.
56:15
SPEAKER_03: You it you you'll be at work before you know it, right?
56:20
SPEAKER_03: And you won't be pissed off.
56:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
56:23
SPEAKER_03: Saved a whole shitload of Skittles, you know.
56:25
SPEAKER_03: Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe you even maybe you even picked up a couple because sometimes those people, when you get out of their way so that they can turn right, they give you a honk and a wave.
56:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, a good honk and a good wave, you know.
56:38
SPEAKER_00: You know what?
56:38
SPEAKER_00: If you're pissed off, if you're pissed off about traffic, you just DM me and I'll send you a free copy of my book.
56:44
SPEAKER_00: You can either listen to it or read it.
56:46
SPEAKER_00: I would be happy to send it to you so that you can understand that resource and give it to your kids and your family and yourself.
56:52
SPEAKER_00: It is a good offer.
56:53
SPEAKER_00: Thank you for understanding that.
56:54
SPEAKER_00: I appreciate you coming and getting naked with me today.
56:58
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57:00
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57:15
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57:20
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57:22
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57:28
SPEAKER_00: Dad, I hope you weren't listening.
57:30
SPEAKER_00: This was a rough one.
57:30
SPEAKER_00: Catch you next time.
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SPEAKER_00: That's a wrap.