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1999 · INSPIRE STORY

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Creepcurst.
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  Speaker 2: Today we are talking about nineteen ninety nine, the creepypasta.
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  Also it's known as either Caledon Local twenty one or
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  mister Bear Cellar.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, so nineteen ninety nine one of the
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  classic Internet creepypastas. It's gone on to inspire a lot
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  of other Internet horror stories and things like that, as
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  I'm sure you'll pick up on as you read through it.
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  But this is one of the ogs if I remember right.
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  The first post was made in two thousand and nine
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  and it was continued to be updated until twenty eleven,
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  although it had its big resurgence around like twenty thirteen
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  twenty fourteen, when a bunch of horror YouTubers started to
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  make the like audio videos about it, people like mister Creepypasta,
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  Creeps Mixed Pasta and stuff like that. So nineteen ninety
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  nine has definitely like inserted itself into the quote unquote
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  important early creepypasta works.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that cultural zeitgeist of just like pivotal early Internet
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  horror stories pret quel, it's two thousand and nine is
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  rare early.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, it's it's one of the earliest ones.
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  I remember this being one of the first ones I
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  heard about when I started like getting into it myself. Uh,
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  and there's good reason. There's good reason. It's a it's
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  a very interesting story that I of course I'm not
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  familiar with at all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want as is per usual. I actually I
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  feel like it has to be a continuous theme here.
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  I have never heard of this. I don't know what
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  this is, so once again going in blind, if anything,
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  this is just this is all it is. It's like
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  basically Internet horror historian, and then random Man off the
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  Street is what this podcast is to become.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, well you get to enjoy all of it for
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  the first time. Now, I will say with this episode,
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  I actually I'm actually not familiar with nineteen ninety nine,
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  so this will be uh yeah, this will be an
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  interesting episode for me, I think. So I'm definitely excited
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  to see how this one goes. So I'm interested as well.
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  I'm right there with you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm stoked. Well, without further ado, let's get into it,
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  which it starts off by saying end quotes.
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  Speaker 1: The year is nineteen ninety nine.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go. I'm so excited. Also, to everyone who is here,
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  remember to keep doing the thing you're doing on audio
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  platforms because more people keep fighting us over there, and
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  that's pretty cool. So yeah, if you want, if you
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  want to keep that up, thanks, If not, well, I
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  don't care.
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  Speaker 2: I support. I just like when people listen to us, regardless.
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  But the audio platforms on Spotify and Apple Podcast, they've
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  the numbers have been awesome and we've been seeing a
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  lot of positivity there. So if you want to go,
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  go give us a listen there and give us a
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  nice little rating and stuff. It means the world to us.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, you all are fantastic. Like you know, sometimes I'll
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  be talking and Hunter about the show and stuff, and
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  Hunters like, I just can't stand, you know, these people
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  who watch our videos and talk about us and make
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  edits of us and stuff. I just I just wish
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  I no, no, I could grab their tender little necks
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  and just break them and it'll just be over. And
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  I'm like, no, these people they're important to me, and
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  you all really are. So I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: It's true, and I want to say to all of
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  the which actually I want to clarify, and so I
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  did not say any of that. I say he said said, no, no, no, no, no,
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  no no. All of the fan edits and stuff have
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  been really really funny, and we want to. I check
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  out the reddit and stuff and see all of the
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  the memes going on there and all the different kinds
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  of edits too, and it's really really really cool to see.
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  So I look forward to all of them. So please
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  keep making them and making my belly jiggle with laughter.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and I'm not going to add the part about
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  making his belly jiggle because that feels weird, but keep
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  making me laugh in a normal way.
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  Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety nine two is that this is this is
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  peak Limp Biscuit. So if at some point there is
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  some kind of Limp Biscuit reference, I'm gonna be very
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  very excited.
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  Speaker 3: I will say this has nothing to do with nineteen
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  ninety nine, but one time I was reading I think
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  I've read it on No it's for a video. It
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  was this online arg called Hypnagogic Archives. And there's a
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  part where character's in whatever year smash mouths Astro Lounge
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  came out, so it's it's whatever the characters in whatever
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  year that is, and he's like, reminds me of the
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  hit song All Star by smash. So. I'm sure though,
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  we'll have a moment like that in this story, don't you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be a It's like the guy wrote
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  it and he was like, this is a timeless reference.
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  This will never ever a bop forever.
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  Speaker 3: It certainly won't wind up in a popular DreamWorks film
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  and ruin its reputation forever. Yes, yes, yes, okay, all right,
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  let's get into it. I'm so ready, let's begin.
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  Speaker 2: I am too, man.
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  Speaker 3: The year is nineteen ninety nine. That sentence brings me
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  back to my senior kindergarten class when I was five
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  years old, where we used to read out the date
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  on the blackboard every single day. The year nineteen ninety
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  nine exists as a stain in my mind, however, as
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  a memory that will not go away no matter how
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  I try to forget it. Nineteen ninety nine marked the
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  year I lost my first tooth, my first time on
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  a plane, and unfortunately, the early loss of my childhood innocence,
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  the one memory that refused to be wiped. It all
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  started with that new or old TV. At the time,
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  Pokemon was the latest fad to hit the school. Pokemon cards,
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  game stickers, and the most popular the TV show, so
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  of course, every time I came home from school, I
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  would stay glued to the TV until Pokemon came on
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  at five. The only problem was that my dad watched
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  the news at five thirty and Pokemon episodes were back
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  to back, which meant I had to miss an episode
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  every day, something I wind on and on about. My
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  dad got tired of hearing me complain every day. That
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  must be why he went and bought another TV. My
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  dad put the TV he bought in my room. Unfortunately,
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  it was just an old small boob tube with rabbit ears.
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  Even it also only had twenty channels available, not including
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  the channel Pokemon was on. I recall, I didn't care though,
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  I was just thrilled I had my own TV in
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  my room. After surfing through the channels, I came to
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  the conclusion that only Channel two TVO Kids was worth watching,
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  so I watched that for a while. It wasn't for
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  another few months until I discovered Channel twenty one. One
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  day in April, I was flipping through the channels trying
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  to see if Pokemon was on. I pressed Channel twenty
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  one into the remote, hoping there were more channels, and
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  to my delight there was. My dad was surprised too,
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  but he let me watch it because it seemed to
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  have kids programs on. The channel was called Kaledon Local
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  twenty one, and later I found out it was indeed
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  broadcasted from the town of Kaledon, Ontario, a town very
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  close to my city. The shows I saw on Kalaedan
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  Local twenty one looked poorly made, and I never understood
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  what was going on in them halftime. However, as I
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  grew up, every time I thought of that channel, I
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  realized more and more how messed up the shows were,
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  and I had to ask myself, this is a quote.
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  Do you want to do the quote? So, yeah, I
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  want to take it from you.
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  Speaker 2: What the fuck was I watching?
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  Speaker 3: Thank you? There's not a ton of quotes in this story,
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  so I don't want to rob you of that moment.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, Yeah, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: And then after that we get into our first show.
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  But so far, what do you think of it? How
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  are you feeling?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it feels similar to that Channel zero thing
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  kind of about like some kind of show or some
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  kind of like archetype where children are watching a you know,
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  some kind of various programs and it's a lot more
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  fucked up than what they remembered or even like as kids,
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  it might have messed with them. It's kind of the
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  direction I'm going, but I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 3: It reminds me like premise wise, it reminds me a
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  lot of a Candle Cove.
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  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, can't there you go che of Cove? Yep,
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  because that was the whole thing was that was like
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  the Pirate one, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, the whole thing is that all these kids
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  remember a show, but then their parents are like, oh no,
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  whenever you were staring at the TV, it was just static.
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  Like the end twist is that the television was like
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  transmitting these signals straight to them. That one's written by
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  Chris Straub, and he's like a whole He's like one
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  of the Mount Rushmore heads of early internet whrror. So
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  like that. I think he's incorporated it into some of
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  his other writings and stuff like that. But yeah, the
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  core remiss of the original Candle Coave story reminds me
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  a lot of nineteen ninety nine.
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  Speaker 2: I even just like the theme of like coming home from
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  school and wanting to watch something. Obviously we haven't gotten
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  into it. But I like the idea of like it's
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  a very intimate moment or like that. Even I remember
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  that coming home, and it's like you're kind of like
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  ritual that you do, and like the relationship between you
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  and these shows is something where it's like, you know, therapeutic, cathartic,
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  all kinds of different feelings, and then to kind of
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  put that twist, it's just fun.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I always just like that. But I'm stoked.
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  Speaker 3: I agree, all right, So let's get into the first one.
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  April nineteen ninety nine, Mister Bear Seller, Episode twelve, very
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  sketchy name if you were to look at it nowadays.
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  The show featured a guy wearing a bear mascot costume
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  who would get a new visitor into his cellar every day.
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  Speaker 4: It was God, God, good Lord, Oh no, and not
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  the next, not the next, abbreviations.
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  Speaker 3: Here we go, hunter, Are you ready?
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  Speaker 2: I guess so, dude, good lord.
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  Speaker 3: It was always a kid, always a kid. I was
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  always a kid. So here we go. The train, the
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  Barroska train is in the station. Once again, it was
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  always a kid. The show was filmed with a camcorder,
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  and not a very good one either. The police asked
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  me a lot of questions about this show. This episode
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  started with mister Bear sitting at a table playing checkers
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  by himself. He sat there planing for a bit until
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  there was a knock on the door. The camera was
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  then looking up the stairs at the door, where there
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  was another knock. Mister Bear climbed the stairs and opened
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  the door to reveal two young children. One was a
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  boy about my age and the other was a girl
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  who looked about eight. Mister Bear danced into light and
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  then started talking to the kids. I couldn't hear any
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  of them that well, I remember. Mister Bear then let
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  the kids into the cellar, which was quite dark, only
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  lit by a small oil lamp on the table. I
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  can't really remember that much more, except him singing a song,
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  which I couldn't hear too well either, probably because of
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  the large bear mask. The episode ended with them playing
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  hide and seek, with the kids hiding in a closet
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  and mister Bear counting, Oh my lord, how you feel?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my lord? Okay, I'm not gonna lie that kind
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  of I was like, I got like a I got
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  a bad taste on amount of I felt a little
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  something crawled my spine there, you know, what I mean
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  immediately made me think of aesthetically was like the Poughkeepsie tapes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, the Poughkeepsie tapes.
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  Speaker 2: It's like the very the very infamous one where it's
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  like it's like, uh, the guy crawling down the steps
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  in the basement and stuff, all that kind of stuff. Absolutely,
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  also how cryptically vague everything is. Also, it's like, I
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  like recalling these things, it feels like it's like recalling
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  a dream or something. It's just ugh, we don't know
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  the intentions yet, you know what I mean, and it
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  makes it so much worse.
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  Speaker 3: That's one of the most effective parts about the story
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  to me is that like it's all relayed through just
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  what the kids saw, so all of the intentions and
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  things like that, you're kind of left to ponder with yourself.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, because there's something so menacing about that ending too,
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  that they were playing hide and go seek and the
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  kids were hiding in the closet with mister Bear counting.
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  It's it's it's like what happens you know after the
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  cameras go off, right, if that's where the episode ended.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean one thing that caught me was
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  that was one sentence there, which is just the police
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  asked me a lot of questions about this show, just
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  that one little thing right there, of like introducing a
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  whole other story element of like Okay, obviously there's some
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  kind of investigation going, and like other people must have
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  heard about this thing, you know what I mean. Like
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  it adds like a whole new layer of of of
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  of intrigue or just like another layer of depth to
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  the story, which I think is just really cool. Yeah,
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  but also too just the I mean, like, you know,
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  mister bear, you know the obviously the child aesthetic mixed
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  with horror is as old as time itself, but still
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  just the idea of an adult what I'm assuming is
• 13:21
  an adult in a bear suit doing this is just
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  fucking mortifying.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh I should also mention for you to suffer
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  even more. There's been a bunch of people on YouTube
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  in the year since it's got popular who have made
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  videos of all of this happening. So it's like an
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  actual cam quarter footage of a guy in a bear
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  suit like running around with kids and stuff like that,
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  and it's exactly as awful as you can imagine.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, do that kind of like leads perfectly into
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  the Uh we just somebody sent Isaiah or Windigoon the
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  Ted the Caver, the Ted's Caving journal thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, so we just wanted.
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  Speaker 2: To give him a shout out too, and we'll put
• 14:05
  his link to his channel in the videos. But it
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  is unbelievable, so good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So this dude, I haven't watched it yet because
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  I'm gonna watch it on stream. I'm saving myself for
• 14:14
  the stream audience. But this guy showed up in one
• 14:17
  of my live streams and said, Hey, I heard your
• 14:18
  all episode you did over on Papa Meat about Ted
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  the Caver, and I decided to make it into a series.
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  And the series looks fantastic. So yeah, really cool that
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  he did that. We'll throw it down in the description.
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  But yeah, love seeing creativity like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah all right, well, I mean let's keep moving on.
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  back to the episode. May nineteen ninety nine, Soup and Spoon.
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  I don't think this was even a show. I think
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  it was more of a special movie thing. All I
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  know is I stopped watching cald on Local twenty one
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  for a while because I thought this show was too stupid,
• 17:54
  especially since Pokemon now came on at four thirty and five.
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  I don't remember much of this, but it's showed a
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  can of soup and a spoon, both attached to strings,
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  swinging back and forth as if someone was holding them
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  and dangling them in front of the camera. Interestingly enough,
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  the show was shot in a basement which looked just
• 18:14
  like the one used in Mister Bear Cellar. Like I said,
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  I can't remember much. The only thing I can remember
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  clearly was the end. The entire thing was only half
• 18:24
  an hour and just included stuff I found stupid, such
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  as the spoon chasing the soup around trying to eat him.
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  The endings showed a table and about seven kids sitting
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  around it, each with a bowl of soup in front
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  of them. They were sitting and looking at the camera
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  but with confused, almost frightened faces. The cameraman then yelled
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  at the can of soup in front of the kids
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  and said spoons ready, and then it just stopped.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting, Well, it's definitely setting up a theme here of
• 18:54
  obviously some kind of child abduction thing, but obviously like
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  this weird thirty minute like puppet show is almost how
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  I had to describe that, right with like the Spoon
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  and the Soup. Uh a weird puppet show. I do
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  like the uh. I do like the line I thought
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  the show was too stupid, especially since Pokemon Now came
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  on at four thirty and five. You know, like a
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  kid just looking at this, he's like, what the hell
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  is this? What the heck? This is dumb? It goes
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  to the living room and watches ash a twelve year
• 19:24
  old boy like Tackle Cyther or something like that. He's like,
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  this is awful, this is what this is why I
• 19:30
  need to be watching.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: I think it's pretty It works for me because a
• 19:35
  lot of the times, you know, oh, totally with a
• 19:37
  with a story, you're trying to find ways to hide
• 19:39
  information from the characters and have it just been a
• 19:41
  kid who like wasn't interested because he didn't realize how
• 19:45
  off putting what he was looking at was. In staid,
• 19:48
  he just wanted to watch Pokemon, So that makes sense
• 19:50
  why he only saw some of it one time. Right,
• 19:54
  it works, It works for the story.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: It does, and I mean I think the entirely like
• 19:58
  one thing that's been really effective so far. It is
• 20:00
  just these really strong, like last three or four sentences
• 20:03
  of each of these descriptions like the ending showed to
• 20:06
  a table and about seven kids sing around it, each
• 20:08
  with a bowl of soup in front of them. Just
• 20:10
  it's so simple, but just so like unsettling, so just
• 20:15
  eerily unsettling.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: It's one of the like I don't know how much
• 20:20
  of it was intentional on the author's part. I think
• 20:23
  a lot of it, But sometimes I feel like even
• 20:26
  the quick delivery of the sentences, like how immediate they are,
• 20:31
  like it's very factual from the kid's point of view,
• 20:34
  goes to better serve the idea as a kid who's
• 20:36
  not really processing what he was looking at. Mm hmm,
• 20:39
  Because like if you or I found a local television
• 20:42
  show that was like in a basement with children, it
• 20:44
  would immediately be like red alert, but the kid just
• 20:47
  kind of watched it and was bored by it, which
• 20:49
  is it's so miniscing.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I'm even thinking about. If I
• 20:53
  was a kid, I'd probably doing the exact same thing. Yeah,
• 20:55
  I mean I'd be looking at like my Dragon Ball
• 20:57
  Z DVD thing and being like, why the fuck am
• 21:00
  I watching this stupid shit? I agree, throwing this in
• 21:02
  my PS two and just like live in Levina, Loka
• 21:04
  you know what I mean, Like, but especially that's just
• 21:06
  like the mind that that's just like the interesting thing
• 21:09
  of like the mind of a child where it's just
• 21:11
  like you don't have those like those those like actual
• 21:15
  being able to process like shit that you're seeing. It's
• 21:18
  just like all surface levels. So you're just like, well,
• 21:19
  this is boring, but you don't understand like how even
• 21:22
  even to the extent too to where it's like why
• 21:24
  would you ever bring it up to your parents? You
• 21:26
  know what I mean, Oh, that's shows stupid. You know, well,
• 21:29
  why why would you pup and show Yeah, exactly exactly.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I also think that to me, that's one of the
• 21:35
  most frightening concepts you can do in horror, not just
• 21:40
  like involving kids, but specifically involving like your memories around childhood,
• 21:45
  Like did those things that happen to you actually happen
• 21:48
  the way you think you did or are you just misremembered?
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that the idea is with me a lot. Yeah,
• 21:55
  And I think the idea that it's like you can't
• 21:57
  even trust yourself in your own narrative, yeah, I think
• 21:59
  is extremely disturbing, extremely disturbing. It's like the especially like dementia,
• 22:04
  like me getting dementia when I'm older, which I know
• 22:06
  it's gonna happen, and I'm very bummed about it. I
• 22:08
  just I can feel it. I think, like it's the
• 22:11
  idea that's like you can't even remember, like you're losing
• 22:13
  track of your own self or you can't even trust yourself.
• 22:16
  Is so frightening. Yeah, yeah, it looks interesting here too,
• 22:20
  because that went from April May and the next one's
• 22:22
  in July, so he skipped a month. Yes, the time
• 22:25
  was becoming a bit more sporadic.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so these are like his memories of like I
• 22:29
  remember this from April, I remember this from May. So
• 22:31
  that's what he remembers from July. So the next one,
• 22:34
  July nineteen ninety nine, He says. It was summer and
• 22:39
  I hadn't watched Channel twenty one for a while until
• 22:42
  one day when I slept over at my friend's house
• 22:44
  and I decided to check it out again. My friend
• 22:47
  had got into TV in his room for his sixth birthday,
• 22:50
  so we stayed up very late for us. Nine point
• 22:53
  thirty was very late and watched TV. That's when I
• 22:57
  remember Channel twenty one and brought it up to my friend,
• 23:00
  we decided to see if it was on, and to
• 23:02
  our surprise, it was. It must have changed the broadcasting time. Now.
• 23:06
  A couple of things to mention here. For one, six
• 23:10
  way too young to just have an unrestricted TV.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well do you think so? In the era before
• 23:17
  internet's really readily available. I mean, but before this time,
• 23:20
  people that had their own TVs and stuff, I mean
• 23:23
  like it was probably like, oh, you just can't have
• 23:24
  like a VCR or something to like watch bad movies
• 23:27
  or something. But even then, it's like what was gonna
• 23:29
  be on TV? You know what I mean, I'm.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: I'll give you that that in nineteen ninety nine, having
• 23:34
  a TV that showed like local PBS or whatever was
• 23:38
  especially Yeah, because nowadays the kids are going to find
• 23:40
  creep cast and gonna find you know, us talking about
• 23:42
  like child oft.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Kind of whatnot crazy shit.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we can't be having that also here too.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I just want to say that it's interesting where he
• 23:51
  said earlier that the broadcasting was from four to nine,
• 23:54
  and then he's like nine thirty. Oh, they must have
• 23:56
  changed the broadcasting time. No, I think it's definitely just
• 23:59
  whenever you but on, it's gonna it's gonna be there.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, absolutely.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: So this bear cellar.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Like that, that must have changed the broadcasting time. Mister
• 24:17
  Bell Bear celler. This was episode twenty three. This episode
• 24:22
  was entertaining for my friend and me, mainly because it
• 24:24
  had swearing. However, now when I think of this episode,
• 24:28
  I realized something was definitely wrong when it was filmed.
• 24:32
  The episode started with the camera on its side while
• 24:35
  it was facing mister Bear, who was walking upstairs to
• 24:38
  the cellar door. The camera then blacked out for about
• 24:42
  a second before fading in back upright and facing mister Bear.
• 24:47
  There was also another kid talking to him, but this
• 24:50
  kid looked about eleven or twelve. He was talking to
• 24:54
  mister Bear for a while, but I couldn't hear well
• 24:56
  again with the crappy camcorder until the kids started raising
• 24:59
  his voice. The kid was saying how it was late
• 25:04
  and his sister had to go home. You could also
• 25:07
  hear more voices in the background. I remember mister Bear
• 25:11
  clearly saying.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Get the fuck out, you're not invited, with.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: The deep voice muffled by the bear mask. I remember
• 25:18
  my friend and I looking at each other and laughing
• 25:20
  at the mention of the forbidden F word. But the
• 25:23
  episode got weirder. The kid began climbing the stairs before
• 25:26
  turning around and saying how he was going to call
• 25:28
  the police. Mister Bear began breaking into a run towards
• 25:33
  the kid. We started screaming and running as well. The
• 25:37
  camera then cut out and that was the end of
• 25:39
  the episode. The channel then turned to static shortly after.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I want to say that even if I was a
• 25:45
  kid and I heard someone say fuck, because you know,
• 25:47
  I like the South Park movie and all that kind
• 25:49
  of stuff from back in the day, if I saw this,
• 25:51
  I would be horrified, horrified as a child to think, like,
• 25:56
  this thing is just like, get the fuck out of here.
• 25:58
  You're not invited. The kids like it's so weird to
• 26:03
  meet it.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: I will say so crapy, I will say this. Do
• 26:06
  you think a six year old could be young enough
• 26:09
  that they wouldn't process They would still just see a
• 26:12
  funny bear costume?
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Right, Hmmm.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's a good point edge of like realizing this
• 26:19
  is weird.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know sure. I think kids are smart enough
• 26:23
  to read body language or to understand that, like one
• 26:27
  of the people in the room are is clearly upset.
• 26:30
  I think that it does a good job about it
• 26:32
  though by saying that like the the all the audio
• 26:35
  is muffled or it's like hard to hear. But I
• 26:38
  still think I'm I'm trying to think about like I
• 26:40
  feel like I would just be kind of creeped out.
• 26:42
  I think because it's it's kind of like it is
• 26:45
  a big bear, and it's saying it like if it
• 26:48
  was like saying just because I don't know, it's it's
• 26:51
  it's hard to say, six is six is very young.
• 26:53
  It's hard. It's hard to know. You're just so disassociated
• 26:57
  from it.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Maybe I saw I forget it was. But the other
• 27:00
  day I heard the line the scariest thing that happens
• 27:03
  when you're a kid is when an adult suddenly gets
• 27:07
  very serious. Uh yeah, and yeah, that always did freak
• 27:11
  me out. So maybe if that is kind of maybe
• 27:14
  the tick kids are looking forward to get afraid. Maybe
• 27:16
  the bear costumes hiding that, you know, maybe they can't tell.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like they can't like actually read its body language
• 27:22
  because it has just like a giant mask on.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Now I will say the image, Oh
• 27:30
  my gosh, here we go.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Do every I love it every episode?
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: You already I rather thinking about it. I'm busy. I'm working,
• 27:44
  honey every time.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Dude, it's just a pair of run shut up.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: I can't work under these conditions.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm freaking out.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: I'm freaking out right now, all right. Yeah, so yeah, anyway,
• 28:02
  scared kids.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say too that this is this is
• 28:08
  like really I really love this setup with the basement thing,
• 28:11
  just as like a visual like visualizing in my visualizing
• 28:15
  it in my head, like even that last one in July.
• 28:18
  The idea that the camera is like starting off on
• 28:20
  its side like there was some kind of tussle is
• 28:23
  what I would assume that it's saying, right, yeah, like
• 28:26
  there was some kind of struggle or something and the
• 28:27
  tripod fell over so good. And also I don't know,
• 28:31
  are you picturing the basement. I'm picturing the basement with
• 28:33
  like kind of like almost like not dirt floors, but
• 28:36
  like that really shitty like crack some min maybe like
• 28:39
  one light. It's kind of dimly, really old.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: You can hear the constant like low echo of the underground.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yes, yeah, I love it. It's like I'm
• 28:49
  so in on this bear cellar vibe.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: It works pretty well. And like, man, that image of
• 28:54
  him running up the stairs at the kid.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Oh god, horrible, especially just because of how fuck and
• 29:00
  goofy a grown adult looks running in those giant ass suits.
• 29:03
  You know, his legs are kind of bowed because he
• 29:05
  can't just like run regular, So it's just it's just
• 29:08
  even more cartoonish and weird. And yeah, and the kid
• 29:11
  even screams and runs away himself. And also to not
• 29:15
  keep dragging this on this part, but also whenever he
• 29:19
  says get the fuck out, you're not invited, assumes that
• 29:22
  there's more people off screen who are like waiting on
• 29:25
  this quote unquote, like party that he's throwing or something weird,
• 29:30
  mister Bear's party, Mister Bear Sello.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: August nineteen ninety nine. I didn't want to watch Channel
• 29:39
  twenty one after that. In August I grew more conscious
• 29:43
  to see mister bears cellar for some reason, though I'm sorry,
• 29:46
  I'm sorry, I've.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: You you're all scared now, all were out.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: You done got me riled, all right? In August I gream,
• 29:56
  you're more curious to see mister Bear Sellar some reason, though,
• 30:01
  The last episode I saw of mister Bear was weird
• 30:04
  and had swearing, which also made me think the show
• 30:07
  was meant for teenagers. Nonetheless, I flipped onto Channel twenty
• 30:11
  one when my dad was busy. That's also profoundly sad
• 30:14
  how a kid sees how messed up that is and
• 30:16
  be like, Oh, this must be for the bigger kids, right,
• 30:18
  Like he doesn't get how messed up it is. Yeah, yeah,
• 30:23
  mister Bear Seller Episode twenty eight. Apparently this episode had
• 30:27
  been playing the entire month of August. It was studied
• 30:30
  a lot by the police. The entire episode was just
• 30:33
  mister Bear sitting in a chair talking to the audience.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Hello, kids, do you want to visit my cellar? If
• 30:41
  you do, please write me a letter at this address.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: The screen then switched to a white screen with multicolored
• 30:47
  letters reading the address, and that was what remained for
• 30:51
  the rest of the episode. This repeated for five hours
• 30:55
  every day until September came. And guess what I actually did.
• 30:59
  I sent mister Bear or that sick bastard who portrayed
• 31:02
  him a letter. I did it out of curiosity. Mostly
• 31:07
  my dad was okay with it because he thought it
• 31:09
  was a legit kids show. But then again, he never
• 31:11
  saw any of what was on Channel twenty one, So
• 31:15
  I wrote a letter using my best writing possible. I
• 31:18
  think I just said how I wanted to meet mister Bear.
• 31:21
  So my dad sent the letter to the address. Mister
• 31:23
  Bearer said on the show, it's stayed on all day
• 31:25
  anyway for some reason. It took about a week to
• 31:28
  get a response, which I was surprised I did. I
• 31:32
  still had the letter I received on August the fifteenth,
• 31:34
  nineteen ninety nine.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: The letter read, Dear Elliott, thank you ever so much
• 31:40
  for your letter. I would love to have you in
• 31:43
  my cellar. We play games, watch movies, and go fire
• 31:47
  camping in the middle of the woods. Come to my
• 31:50
  house at the police cut out this address, Kaladan, Ontario, Canada.
• 31:56
  I look very forward to having fun with you. Love
• 32:00
  mister Bear.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: I cannot believe my dad never found this sketchy, because
• 32:04
  he actually took me to the house. And what what
• 32:12
  what the what?
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: What the fuck?
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: What are you?
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: What are you saying?
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, time time out, time out?
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: I say time out, please God, hold on, hold.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: On my word. What I'm trying to wrap my head
• 32:34
  around that he actually took you the How Okay? I
• 32:37
  just keep going and then we're almost done with this one,
• 32:39
  and we can actually see. I'm so curious to see.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: And that's when the police became involved, those endless questions,
• 32:47
  those pictures of terrified kids the woods. That brings me
• 32:51
  to I'm writing this blog that Psycho and his friends
• 32:54
  did some screwed up shit back then, and now it
• 32:57
  seems he's trying to get into contact with me. The
• 33:01
  entire police thing is coming back. That has brought nineteen
• 33:04
  ninety nine back to me over a decade later. It
• 33:07
  is happening again.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Oh ooh, so now he's going to be sixteen. In
• 33:16
  the update here, I will say, Okay, my god, my god,
• 33:22
  talk about get this child away from this dad.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: By the way, hold on, hold on, let's frame it right,
• 33:28
  because we know what's happening. But he said specifically, his
• 33:32
  dad never saw the station, right, So he.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Never saw the station. But he is led to believe,
• 33:38
  sorry to cut you off, he is led to believe
• 33:40
  that he has read he has read that thing. Right.
• 33:45
  As an adult, If I got a letter in the
• 33:47
  mail from a TV studio, presumably an adult, and it said,
• 33:52
  dear Elliott, thank you ever so much for writing letter,
• 33:55
  I would let to have you in my cellar. We
• 33:58
  play games, watch movies that go fire camping in the
• 34:01
  middle of the woods. Come to my house? What like
• 34:06
  the dash is like, all on't go a fault. Where
• 34:08
  do you need to go? What's the address? Or I'll
• 34:10
  plug it in. I'll give a shit. Sure, Yeah, Elliott,
• 34:13
  get your bag, we're going. He's like he wants them
• 34:16
  out of the house. Yeah, guy got TV to watch.
• 34:18
  That's why I bought that TV so I could watch
• 34:20
  my shows. Unbelievable, dude, I'm believing if you've never seen it,
• 34:26
  I would I'd be like, no, who gave We're not
• 34:29
  going you want to go to a cellar? We're going
• 34:31
  to And it doesn't even say come to the studio,
• 34:33
  says come to my house. He's like, yeah, that seems
• 34:35
  that that problem makes sense. That's where Jerry Seinfeld he
• 34:39
  films his all those episodes in his apartments, So that
• 34:41
  makes sense. Unbelievable. Unbelievable dude. And then to have the
• 34:49
  call afterwards where it's like he actually took me to
• 34:51
  the house. You're like what, and this says and then
• 34:54
  and that's when the police became involved? Is the next
• 34:58
  sentence due the next thing? That's when the police became involved.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Come on, the police were there to arrest his dad
• 35:07
  for pregnant.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: He should have he should have, sir, this is child neglect.
• 35:11
  He's like, I didn't know what was going on. I
• 35:14
  just took my son. Told me to take him somewhere.
• 35:16
  I take him. I don't think about it. I just
• 35:19
  take him.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: I was looking for a whip.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: I was like those endless questions and the and and
• 35:28
  also here this paragraph ends with those pictures of terrified
• 35:32
  kids the woods dot dot dot. Arrest the dad immediately,
• 35:39
  is all I have to say. That is unbelievable, which
• 35:43
  I do. I do want to say, regardless of how
• 35:45
  terrible the fucking dad is is, I liked the little
• 35:49
  Over a decade later, it's still happening. I love that
• 35:51
  little Yeah, that little you know, dangling the carrot.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: So actually, I believe, if I recall, right, everything we
• 35:58
  just read was the original poet, and then everything we
• 36:01
  read from here on was updates he did in the
• 36:03
  following months. So everything we just read was where the
• 36:06
  original story ended.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, And but this but the first one was still
• 36:11
  posted in two thousand and nine, correct, yes, correct, okay,
• 36:14
  And it was just this is just him updating. Okay,
• 36:15
  that's cool. Yeah, yeah, all right, so we don't we
• 36:18
  The next log, Ladies and gentlemen, isn't until November fourteenth
• 36:21
  of two thousand and nine, so it literally is almost exactly.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I need to run slight. Okay, we don't have the
• 36:27
  name of the child, I don't think, but the author's
• 36:29
  name is Camden Lamont. So I'm gonna call the child Camden.
• 36:32
  I'm going to run slight interference for Camden's dad.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, no, it's Elliott. It's Elliott.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Oh he did have a name, all right, I'm stupid.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, because the bear he wrote the child, the
• 36:43
  fucking the six year old child, Elliott.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: You're right, yeah, yeah, yes, I'm done. Okay, so I'm
• 36:48
  gonna run sick.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: I cannot wait. I cannot wait to hear this defense, dude.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, hear me out, Ladies and gentlemen of the jury.
• 36:58
  The Okay, the father has not watch the program, correct,
• 37:02
  He has just heard his kid like, oh, I watched
• 37:05
  this show about mister Bhaeron he plays with kids or whatever. Right,
• 37:08
  he thinks that's all it is. It's a local show, right,
• 37:10
  which means it's somewhere around the region. So the kid's
• 37:14
  like Hey, can I send a letter to this TV show?
• 37:16
  And Dad's like sure, So he sends a letter, letter
• 37:18
  comes back and yes. While I will admit to the
• 37:21
  jury that the word seller is weird and that probably
• 37:27
  should have raised an eyebrow, he's also heard that the
• 37:30
  TV show is called mister Bear Sellar. So say it
• 37:35
  was like it was Elmo's Playhouse, right, if the letter
• 37:39
  said I want you to come to my playhouse, that
• 37:41
  would seem normal. The dad didn't send his child in
• 37:45
  that direction. He was there with him, like. The dad's like,
• 37:48
  all right, we'll check it out. And he walks up
• 37:51
  with the with his son, and then the police become involved.
• 37:54
  Maybe the dad saw something, maybe the police were already there.
• 37:57
  Who knows. But again I will I will have that
• 38:01
  slight caveat about it.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: I just want to say that I have to question
• 38:05
  now if you yourself are mister barn because that's what
• 38:08
  that defense sounded like. Because I want to say that,
• 38:14
  sure he's never seen the show. If I would have
• 38:16
  sat there, Let's say I've never seen Dragon ball Z
• 38:19
  and my kid says, oh, it's a show about fighting,
• 38:22
  it's they power up. Sure right, come go to master
• 38:25
  Roche's Island. He says, I'm like, well, well, that's a
• 38:28
  weird thing. And then it says the next line says,
• 38:31
  come to my house. At what point would I be like, hmm,
• 38:36
  that's kind of weird that shot in the house. Well, yeah,
• 38:39
  I guess I also think it's being presumptuous that you
• 38:41
  said that, he's like, because with how neglectful he's been
• 38:43
  so far, I would almost assume this nineties father is
• 38:46
  just waiting in the car. All right, it'll be here,
• 38:48
  have fun, Get on in there.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: A hunter. Those are gruesome allegations, and I don't stand
• 38:54
  for it.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: All I'm saying is I don't Yeah, I believe at
• 38:59
  some point point and someone will probably pull up this image.
• 39:01
  I could have sworn that I've seen you with some
• 39:03
  kind of giant Teddy Bear mask on, and I just
• 39:05
  I don't know. I don't know. Also, you are rushing
• 39:11
  to the defense of this extremely quickly.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about, the defensive one.
• 39:19
  I just think that looking at.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Perfect at the time.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's all.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I'm all right. We'll see where this goes, mister bear.
• 39:30
  We'll see where it goes. I'm just gonna be your
• 39:34
  new nickname. Dude, I'm not gonna call I'm not gonna
• 39:36
  no longer. Are you win? The good? In my eyes?
• 39:38
  You were literally mister Bear is how I see this. Also,
• 39:41
  you talked about how you seem dead bodies and real
• 39:43
  lives and stuff. Mister Bear, mister Bear.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, I know I'm a YouTuber, but that doesn't mean
• 39:49
  I'm a pedophile. I know that's my line and oh god,
• 40:00
  all right. No update one November fourteenth, two thousand and nine.
• 40:09
  People have been emailing me asking what exactly happened in
• 40:12
  nineteen ninety nine. I'll get to that. Those weird TV
• 40:16
  shows I was watching apparently were met to attract kids
• 40:19
  to mister Bear's house. What mister Bear did shocked the
• 40:23
  entire town. My dad actually drove me to Caldan along
• 40:27
  with the address mister Bear left on the letter. The
• 40:30
  house was actually in the outskirts of the town, in
• 40:33
  the open farmland. I still remember that house. It looked
• 40:37
  like an older farmhouse that looked to have been built
• 40:40
  in the early nineteen hundreds. The windows were all boarded
• 40:44
  up and the house looked in a state of disrepair.
• 40:48
  As we walked up to the house, I remember my
• 40:50
  dad shocking address over and over again and looking at
• 40:54
  the house in disbelief. Then the door opened. I'm sorry,
• 40:58
  did you have something you wanted to add? What?
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: The entire the entire house is boarded up, and the
• 41:08
  Dad's like, is this is this right? Okay? Well I guess.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Yo. Is this where Kimber's funeral is? Hey?
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Is this where mister Bear Cellar's at? Yes, Kimber's Mber's mom.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Is this where Kimber's Yeah, yo, they got sandwiches in here?
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Oh yo, yes, anyway, the door opens.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: I expected mister bear to be at the door, but
• 41:43
  I was surprised to see if police officer emerge from
• 41:46
  the creeking doorway.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Marcus, Oh yeah, Marcus, yeah, So.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: What are you some kind of mister bear hunter?
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: I heard there's a big animalphic bear walking around here.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Just all the story yea on each other, there goes whip.
• 42:04
  Oh look at that that's there, you goes? Oh? Do
• 42:07
  we take a ride up here Bristol? Yeah? I have
• 42:14
  hold on before we go in the house, let me
• 42:16
  check my Facebook account. I got a message from my
• 42:18
  dead girlfriend.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Girlfund He was messaging me on Facebook. All right now,
• 42:22
  we're good. No messages, all right?
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Wait? What's that? Are those giant chicken eggs on the poor?
• 42:29
  I hope the eye looks lady didn't leave us here. Okay,
• 42:33
  I'm good.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: I think that's all of them.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Oh wait, be careful, there's some stairs in those ones.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: No, no, now, we're good. Yeah.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: I expected mister Bhair to be at the door, but
• 42:51
  I was surprised to see a police officer emerge from
• 42:53
  the creaking doorway. The officer began talking to my dad. Well.
• 42:57
  I quickly asked if that was mister Bear's house. The
• 43:01
  officer's face cringed slightly, and he muttered, oh god, did
• 43:06
  you have to do that in the Wavid season voice?
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Oh god, was that better?
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: I'm not imagine. That's stupid. You know, I'm glad they
• 43:19
  took that VIDEOTEWN because man, stupid in a police office.
• 43:27
  We're gonna get through this paragraph, okay, hold on, yes,
• 43:31
  or something like that. He started talking quietly to my dad,
• 43:35
  so I couldn't hear, although my dad told me to
• 43:37
  go to the car anyway, and then we just went home.
• 43:41
  My dad was quiet the whole way home. I felt
• 43:43
  something strange had happened. My dad never told me what happened.
• 43:47
  For a while, I forgot about it anyway, too. Channel
• 43:51
  twenty one no longer came on, and when I asked
• 43:53
  about it, my dad would not acknowledge his existence. I
• 43:58
  think it was when I was thirteen where I learned
• 44:00
  the truth. I remember Channel twenty one one day and
• 44:03
  asked my dad about it. I guess he finally decided
• 44:06
  I should hear the truth. Kalad On Local twenty one
• 44:09
  was a local TV channel that ran from October of
• 44:11
  nineteen ninety seven to August of nineteen ninety nine in
• 44:14
  the Peel region of Ontario. The entire channel was made
• 44:18
  from a house Kaledon when I visited, and run by
• 44:22
  a man who was not really known by anyone in
• 44:24
  the town. The channel was only available to older TVs
• 44:28
  because the signal was one only picked up by rabbit
• 44:31
  ears or weaker frequency. The man created all the shows
• 44:35
  on the channel, all of which were kids shows. He
• 44:38
  was mister Bear and he was a mysterious cameraman. The
• 44:42
  real reason he created the channel was more disturbing than
• 44:45
  what was originally thought. As you might have already guessed,
• 44:49
  he kidnapped kids and held them into cellar. But while
• 44:53
  most people thought he was a serial child molester, he
• 44:56
  really wanted to use the kids for another purpose. The
• 45:00
  day I arrived, the man had fled his house the
• 45:03
  night before, the day before the police went in for
• 45:06
  their investigation. I wasn't the only one who was watching. Hmm.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Interesting, So they haven't even caught him.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: No, he's still out there somewhere.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still out there somewhere. Oh. The weird thing too,
• 45:18
  of what do you think his other purpose was?
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know, man, it could really be anything. What
• 45:26
  do you think it was?
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't tell if it's veering into
• 45:29
  like child.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Sacrifice maybe of some sort.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of, like a seller and that
• 45:37
  kind of thing. Really, there hasn't been that much. I mean, obviously,
• 45:39
  I literally thought it was gonna be the I thought
• 45:42
  it was gonna be like a molestation murder kind of thing.
• 45:45
  But another purpose makes me think that there's something. It
• 45:51
  just feels a bit more cryptic to where it's like
• 45:53
  I'm not sure. I mean, like my media other go
• 45:56
  to is like, oh, sacrificial purposes of some sort, But
• 45:59
  I'm not sure.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know well, we'll see what we'll get to do.
• 46:02
  There's another update.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: So his thing to here is that he updated it,
• 46:06
  so the it jumped from August of ninety nine to
• 46:09
  November fourteenth, two thousand and nine. So has he been
• 46:12
  has he been the consistent age the entire time of
• 46:15
  has he just been our narrator? That's sixteen?
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is him now in real time he's been?
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Is that original post? I'm not sure what date it
• 46:22
  was made, but it was it was in two thousand
• 46:25
  and nine, So it's him at sixteen talking about the
• 46:28
  story like what he saw as a kid, and now
• 46:30
  it's him updating after the first post was out. Okay,
• 46:34
  so our next post is December the second two thousand
• 46:37
  and nine Update two. Sorry for not answering any questions
• 46:42
  for so long. I haven't accessed my email account for
• 46:45
  some time. Anyway, let me finally set things straight about
• 46:49
  what I know. Back in October, I visited the house
• 46:52
  previously owned by the man who ran calad On Local
• 46:54
  twenty one. Two women live there, operating a daycare business.
• 46:59
  How ironic? Now to answer the questions, you guys, email
• 47:02
  to me. Question one, who else watched Caledon? Local twenty one.
• 47:09
  I know other people watched it for sure, including those
• 47:12
  kids who wound up at mister Bear's house. After some
• 47:15
  Google searches, I found a few people on the Neoseeker
• 47:18
  forums who were discussing shows from Calaedon Local twenty one.
• 47:22
  They talked about the two shows I watch, but also
• 47:25
  another two shows I'd never seen before. A user named
• 47:28
  I am real Life seem to know all the shows
• 47:31
  that were broadcasted on Channel twenty one. Here are the
• 47:33
  two I've never heard of. One the Fallen Angel in Life.
• 47:38
  I am real Life described it as a fairly boring
• 47:41
  show about a guy rambling on and on in front
• 47:43
  of the camera about how we must please Satan and
• 47:46
  appease him before it's too late. And the second show
• 47:49
  Paint with a soul. I am real Life and another
• 47:52
  user called SIGGI ninety two were discussing this show. They
• 47:56
  described it as Blair Witch like as it consisted of
• 47:59
  the cameraman wandering around the forest at night doing nothing
• 48:03
  particularly interesting. I'll go looking for the conversation and see
• 48:07
  if I can get the link. How do you feel
• 48:09
  after that that first question?
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Interesting? I mean, I think it helps it kind of
• 48:15
  makes you push to solidifying the idea that there's some
• 48:17
  kind of worship or some kind of sacrifice going on here,
• 48:21
  and then it feels like the paint with the soul
• 48:23
  thing is definitely him. He's either potentially lurking around other people,
• 48:30
  like trying to find people, or there is some kind
• 48:32
  of thing out in some kind of forest that he
• 48:35
  is visiting, some kind of alter, you know what I mean,
• 48:37
  some kind of worshiping altar or something. I'm not sure.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: I think what my theory is is that it was
• 48:43
  a guy who initially figured out how to broadcast on
• 48:46
  a local channel no one watched, and maybe he began
• 48:48
  with stuff like the Fallen Angel in life, where he's
• 48:51
  just like, oh, we have to do good for Satan,
• 48:55
  and then he learns sort of that a better way
• 48:59
  to go about it is the mister Bear broadcast right that, like,
• 49:03
  maybe maybe he could hide himself a little bit, not well,
• 49:06
  but at least to children.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering too, will not only hide himself to children,
• 49:10
  but I'm also wondering instead of having to go out
• 49:13
  and look for people or like assumably I mean, like
• 49:15
  I'm making assumptions here, but break into people's houses and
• 49:20
  steal kids. This way, it's like they come to him,
• 49:22
  you know what I mean. Like it's much more alluring
• 49:25
  that way.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: So yeah, Question three, where is mister Bear or the
• 49:31
  guys who or the guy who wore the costume? If
• 49:35
  I did know, I would have said earlier. I have
• 49:38
  no idea where the guy is or if he's dead
• 49:40
  or alive, hopefully dead. When I see my dad's friend
• 49:43
  next time, I'll ask him about this, maybe I can
• 49:45
  get a more definite answer. I think question number four,
• 49:49
  what did mister Behar do to the children? This is
• 49:52
  by far the most common question I've been asked. I
• 49:54
  found this out in October as well, via my dad's friend,
• 49:57
  who is a retired Caledon regional officer. Apparently, the man
• 50:01
  playing mister Bhaer took the kids out of the house
• 50:04
  and into the forest nearby. What he did there police
• 50:07
  are not exactly sure how it happened, but sixteen charred
• 50:10
  bodies of children between the ages of four to thirteen
• 50:13
  were found in a fifteen by fifteen foot ditch deep
• 50:16
  within the forest. My dad's friend did not want to
• 50:19
  go into exact details, but I'm seeing him next Thursday anyway,
• 50:23
  So maybe I can extort more information from him. Then
• 50:28
  it's all I have for now. Thanks for keeping an
• 50:30
  interest in my blog. I'll try together as much information
• 50:33
  as I can for my next post. I've actually been
• 50:35
  getting pretty interested in this myself. It should be my
• 50:38
  right to know what the hell happened.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, so definitely some kind of I mean, seems like
• 50:44
  he's taking people out there, sacrificing them for something. Now
• 50:47
  I'm wondering more so, my curiosity is leaning into is
• 50:50
  there any actual paranormal significance that's gonna happen or is
• 50:54
  it just a madman? Because you know what kind of
• 50:56
  reminds me of a bit if you know, you know
• 50:58
  Temple os.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Oh yes, gosh, man, you just gave me a flashback.
• 51:02
  But yeah, I'm familiar.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy religious guy making something, you know, and he's
• 51:06
  just like hunkering down and posting it on the internet.
• 51:09
  But the same way it makes me think of like
• 51:11
  delusional man. If it's not paranormal, it's like delusional man,
• 51:16
  like weird Satanist guy thinks he has to appease probably
• 51:19
  some kind of weird voices in his brain or do
• 51:21
  some kind of you know, something along those lines, the
• 51:25
  connections are there, so I'm now I'm curious to see,
• 51:27
  oh is this going to go into a paranormal direction
• 51:29
  or not. It's it's it's pretty fascinating.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely keeps like so far, it hasn't fallen
• 51:34
  off anywhere, right, it kind of keeps attention, Like, sure,
• 51:37
  it's revealing stuff like the children were killed and there's
• 51:40
  some reference to Satan, but we still don't know enough
• 51:43
  specifics that it kind of gives away, right, it doesn't
• 51:45
  show his hand too quick. Update four right, yeah, Update
• 51:49
  four January fourteenth, twenty ten. I'm sorry I haven't posted
• 51:54
  anything for a while. I kind of lost interest in
• 51:57
  this blog since I hit a standstill while looking for
• 51:59
  more information about the identity of the owner of Caledon
• 52:02
  Local twenty one. However, a few weeks ago I struck gold.
• 52:06
  I found some answer, surprisingly from the father of a
• 52:09
  kid I used to babysit. He lives just across from
• 52:12
  my street and I used to look after his kids
• 52:15
  when they were younger. He currently doesn't have a job either.
• 52:19
  He used to live near the woods outside of Caledon
• 52:21
  and witnessed the owner's activities in the woods. His name
• 52:25
  is Anthony Polo. When he lived in the small bungalow
• 52:28
  outside the woods, he would often venture in to smoke
• 52:31
  a join in marijuana or two before returning to his
• 52:34
  work as a wood craftsman. Paulo described that sometimes he
• 52:38
  would hear voices of children coming from deeper within the woods,
• 52:42
  as well as a glowing light off in the distance.
• 52:45
  Polo told me that these events started in late nineteen
• 52:48
  ninety seven. No, this is around the time Caledon Local
• 52:51
  twenty one began airing. He apparently became annoyed by this
• 52:55
  happening every once in a while and actually went to investigate.
• 52:59
  Polo then described what the whole scene looked like when
• 53:01
  he got there. There's a group of kids, he said,
• 53:04
  about thirteen to seventeen and ages five to twelve, gathered
• 53:07
  around a large fire pit with the burning fire. With
• 53:11
  them was a single adult. Polo talked to the man,
• 53:14
  noting his uncamped appearance of a crack addict as well
• 53:17
  as his constant twitching, and asked what he was doing
• 53:20
  out in the forest with children. The man said they
• 53:23
  were on a camping trip, something they did frequently. Polo
• 53:27
  not suspecting anything. God, dude, you thought the dad was bad.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Imagine seeing a crack aded looking guy twitching and he's like,
• 53:41
  we're on a camping trip and all the kids are
• 53:42
  like probably looking at him horrified, and he's just like
• 53:45
  smoking his joint. He's like, all right, any this is
• 53:50
  the lowest crime rate in Canada.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The next line is so funny. It says Polo
• 53:55
  not suspected anything, as Kaladan as one of the lowest
• 53:58
  lowest crime rates in Canada. Man. The idea of like
• 54:02
  you see a visit, like any single father who wants
• 54:06
  to do crack with his seventeen children is a friend
• 54:10
  of mine.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Just camping. I'm sorry, I just wait, wait what did
• 54:18
  you just do that?
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: And he's like, like person, he's like holding one of
• 54:21
  their hands, like squeezing it really hard, having fun out here. Sorry,
• 54:25
  sorry about that.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Well, oh my god, dude. The next read the rest
• 54:29
  of this sentence.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: All right. Next one simply left it at that and
• 54:33
  told them to be quieter.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Imagic. He's like, all right, well, if you guys could
• 54:40
  stop throwing each other into the fire here and screaming
• 54:44
  and crying, and I'd be so nice because I'm trying
• 54:46
  to it's so hard for me to think with you
• 54:49
  guys screaming so much and talking blocking me out. Man.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the idea of like a kid grabs his hand
• 54:58
  and it's like please, he help me, mister, and he's like, well,
• 55:01
  you pipe down. I'm trying to have a conversation with
• 55:04
  your father here.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: You're so loud, You're so loud. Quiet. I don't think.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: I want to talk to the crackhead. Make sure you're safe.
• 55:17
  Who is help? That's not my name? Stop asking for him.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Paula then paused for a while before telling me that
• 55:25
  they never became quieter. In fact, sometimes he heard loud
• 55:29
  chanting from the children in an unknown language.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, what.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Children?
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Oh I think I think that's Latin. Dude is dead language?
• 55:43
  Oh man, Oh god, he didn't bother meeting with the
• 55:48
  man again as he was I'm.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: Getting the who cares says he didn't bother meeting with
• 55:54
  the man as he was moving away anyway.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: What god, dude, talk to that guy. Holo and the
• 56:00
  man's dad need to be arrested immediately. We're in a
• 56:03
  very tight race for the worst. These the worst characters
• 56:07
  out of a store like not like not badly. I
• 56:09
  just mean, like just bad ding prison. Yes, there needs
• 56:14
  to be a tear list.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: This is the worst part. Listen. I told Polo that
• 56:18
  the man was probably the owner of caled On Local
• 56:21
  twenty one, but he doubted it as he heard that
• 56:23
  the man was moving to Pickering by several other residents
• 56:26
  near that area.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Bro, No, I doubt that. No, No, I doubt it.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: So anyway, Yeah, I was in the woods and I
• 56:33
  found these seventeen children ages five to twelve, with this
• 56:38
  one man around of firepower. Oh that sounds like the
• 56:40
  police case of the man with seventeen children as five
• 56:43
  to twelve round of fire. Now it doesn't check out
• 56:46
  because I heard that guy someone told me he moved.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: No, I have it on pretty good authority that that
• 56:51
  guy's left. So probably not.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: That you need to check your records, because the ones
• 56:57
  I knew were chanting Laddin and cutting themselves in a
• 57:00
  family friendly fashion. Not yet.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Plus those kids were bleeding from their eyes and chanting
• 57:04
  the Latin, so I think they're like, there's there's sharp cookies. Like,
• 57:07
  I doubt that was them.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: I think they could have. I think they could have
• 57:10
  fought that guy off if that was him. So I
• 57:12
  think that was their dad, and he just really liked crack.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, it doesn't like a little hit of crack every
• 57:20
  once in a while. God, not a big deal. Good Lord.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: Here's what I know now. The man would take the
• 57:27
  kids into the woods regularly for quote, camping the fire
• 57:30
  pit Polo described. Maybe the hole the bodies of the
• 57:33
  children were found in. The children Polo saw are probably
• 57:37
  the ones found dead.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Probably, Okay, Yeah, I like all these, like maybe the
• 57:43
  whole the bodies were found in, and Polo saw the
• 57:46
  children's poles are probably the ones found dead. It's like,
• 57:49
  I I didn't, you know, hey, I don't think we
• 57:51
  need to be in fucking inspect their gadget to realize that. Yeah,
• 57:54
  these but I mean, you know, I mean, come on, man.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: That reminds me. I can't remember what it was. I'll
• 58:01
  send it to you if I can find it. But
• 58:02
  there's this YouTube video I watched one time where they
• 58:04
  were trying to prove this guy on TV was an
• 58:07
  individual who had a criminal record. Right, So he shows
• 58:10
  the two side by side and they're clearly the same person.
• 58:13
  But then he spends ten minutes like, as we can
• 58:16
  see his name here is this which matches his name here,
• 58:20
  but that's not all. They have the same social security number,
• 58:24
  but that's not all. We both see, and it got
• 58:27
  down to the point they were wearing the same shirt
• 58:29
  and two different photos.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: And he's still like, it's like, we get it, it's
• 58:33
  the same guy.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: At the end, he's like, with this information, we can
• 58:35
  safely assume this is the same individual.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: We can safely assume. God, that's what this reminds me of.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: The man moved to a city called Pickering, a small
• 58:49
  city east of Toronto. I will discuss this with my
• 58:52
  dad's friend, the ex cop, and see if this matches
• 58:54
  anything the police knew about the man. I also want
• 58:57
  to see if he has any other knowledge of what
• 58:59
  was air on Kalaedan Local twenty one.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Surely we have to assume that the uh, the broadcasts
• 59:06
  are going to start coming back somehow, is what I'm
• 59:08
  going to assume.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but we'll see, we shall see. I
• 59:14
  see the next update. February tenth, twenty ten. Good news, guys.
• 59:22
  I talked to my dad's friend and he disclosed a
• 59:24
  lot of information for me. First, I asked if the
• 59:26
  police had any information on the man who ran Kalad
• 59:29
  On Local twenty one. He replied that they have only
• 59:32
  had the same leads for years, never found a suspect. However,
• 59:36
  the Peel Regional Police do have some of the tapes
• 59:38
  found in the house kalad On Local twenty one was
• 59:41
  broadcasted from. He took me over so I could watch
• 59:45
  a few I guess I haven't said anything. I haven't
• 59:47
  said much about him yet. My dad's friend's name is
• 59:50
  Mitchell Wilson, a pretty nice guy. He seems to understand
• 59:54
  my thirst for knowledge on what happened during the late
• 59:56
  nineties in that house. He feels it was wrong that
• 59:59
  my dad went so long without telling me much. He
• 1:00:02
  took me to the Davis Road Police station. If you
• 1:00:04
  don't know, it's the largest station in Caledon and one
• 1:00:07
  of the largest within the Peel region itself. One of
• 1:00:10
  the main stations around Peel have some of the tapes.
• 1:00:13
  I was able to watch all the footage that the
• 1:00:15
  Davis Road station has. Unfortunately, I wasn't allowed to take
• 1:00:19
  any tapes home for obvious reasons.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: I just want to say one thing I really like
• 1:00:23
  with a lot of these stories, and that this is
• 1:00:24
  setting up really well too. Is I like the amount
• 1:00:27
  of the amount of times that like adults like withhold
• 1:00:30
  things from their children, yeah, or what like almost like
• 1:00:33
  no kid could ever handle hearing these things or being
• 1:00:36
  left in the dark, and it always proves to be
• 1:00:38
  the wrong thing instead of just being completely transparent and
• 1:00:42
  having it be like an open discussion in due time.
• 1:00:44
  Like I don't think you have to traumatize somebody, but
• 1:00:46
  I do think, like I think that like this deception
• 1:00:49
  that it starts off with is like also what like
• 1:00:52
  lends so many people to be digging so much more.
• 1:00:54
  And now my gut reaction too is that Elliott is
• 1:00:57
  gonna dig too far and something like I don't know,
• 1:00:59
  Like I I would hate for him to be like, man,
• 1:01:01
  no one is giving me answers, I need to keep digging,
• 1:01:04
  and then it ends up like really backfiring on.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: Him, you know what I mean, like finding mister Bear
• 1:01:09
  on his own or something like that.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: I think, Uh, I think it's a good trickle of information,
• 1:01:16
  Whereas like you're not going to tell a six year
• 1:01:18
  old what happened, but you tell a sixteen year old
• 1:01:20
  what happened, right, I.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Think you could. I think that even like a thirteen
• 1:01:23
  year old or something where it's like you, you're obviously
• 1:01:26
  not mature yet, but I think that you have enough
• 1:01:30
  cognitive functioning to where you could be like, hey, this
• 1:01:33
  is what happened, and it's like a really pretty horrifying thing.
• 1:01:37
  I think that as you're growing, you need to know
• 1:01:39
  like the dangers of what's going on. Especially I would
• 1:01:41
  feel so guilty if I took someone there and it
• 1:01:44
  ended up being something horrible right where you'd almost want
• 1:01:47
  to be like, let's not have that happen again, et cetera.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. I think, uh, it's also
• 1:01:53
  a good trickle because like now Mitchell's like, you're you
• 1:01:56
  can see the tapes, you know, I understand, I'll let
• 1:01:58
  you see him. And it all also is good for
• 1:02:00
  the reader because we have a good balance between hearing
• 1:02:03
  new tapes and then talking about what they might mean.
• 1:02:06
  Stuff like that.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think, as with a lot of these stories,
• 1:02:12
  the deception with the parents is always weird. I'm like
• 1:02:14
  still kind of skeptical with the dad because I do
• 1:02:16
  like the line where he says Mitchell says he feels
• 1:02:20
  it was wrong or this is in reference to Elliott
• 1:02:22
  saying what Mitchell said, he feels it was wrong that
• 1:02:24
  my dad went so long without telling me much. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:02:27
  It's just one of the line where I'm like, I
• 1:02:30
  don't know, I'm watching that dad. I'm watching that dad now,
• 1:02:32
  I don't know.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: So the episodes that he was shown Paint with the
• 1:02:36
  Soul episode ten Garbage Thrown Away. Paint with the Soul
• 1:02:41
  was one of the shows that I Am Real Life
• 1:02:42
  in Signing ninety two discussed on Neoseeker. I told the
• 1:02:45
  police about this and they informed me that twelve episodes
• 1:02:48
  of the show were made and broadcasted between December fifth,
• 1:02:51
  nineteen ninety seven and January eighth, nineteen ninety eight. This
• 1:02:55
  also further backs up my theory that this and the
• 1:02:58
  Satan show would have come first, because he ended early
• 1:03:00
  nineteen ninety eight to do more Mister Bear stuff, So
• 1:03:03
  it seems like Paint with the Soul came first, exactly
• 1:03:07
  as I Am Real Life and Signy ninety two described.
• 1:03:09
  The episode opened with the cameraman wandering around in a forest.
• 1:03:13
  It appeared to be during this evening, as it seems
• 1:03:16
  the sun was setting. The cameraman walked along a path
• 1:03:19
  until he got to an area where there was a
• 1:03:21
  lot of garbage line in the leaves. The camera looked
• 1:03:24
  around at the various rappers, bottles, bags, and boxes, making
• 1:03:27
  sure each item got a few seconds of screen time.
• 1:03:30
  The camera then focused on a single area before the
• 1:03:33
  man spoke. I recall he spoke in a very timid,
• 1:03:36
  quiet voice, and I swear I've heard it somewhere else before,
• 1:03:40
  like on another caled On Local twenty one show. I
• 1:03:43
  could barely hear what he was saying, but he mainly
• 1:03:46
  talked about how humans are garbage or something that had
• 1:03:49
  to do with saving ourselves by cleaning up the garbage
• 1:03:52
  or us. It actually sounded really stupid, but still a
• 1:03:57
  feeling of dread came over me. I mean that Forrest
• 1:04:00
  was possibly where those bodies were found, right, mister Bear
• 1:04:04
  Sellar episode twenty five. When the police administrator brought in
• 1:04:08
  this tape, I actually said, oh shit and chuckled a
• 1:04:12
  bit out loud. Of course, I got stared from the staff,
• 1:04:15
  but Wilson explained to them about my little experience with
• 1:04:18
  mister Bear and how I still kept the letter he
• 1:04:20
  sent me. Like the previous episodes, this one included a
• 1:04:23
  guy wearing a bear mascot costume. The episode began with
• 1:04:27
  mister Bear waddling over to his cellar door with a
• 1:04:30
  bottle of orange juice in his paws. On the ground
• 1:04:33
  were sixteen shot glasses, as well as a small bottle
• 1:04:36
  that contained an unknown liquid. Mister Bear poured an equal
• 1:04:40
  amount of orange juice into each glass before opening the
• 1:04:43
  smaller bottle and depositing one drop into the glasses. Mister
• 1:04:47
  Bear then went off camera. There was some minor sounds
• 1:04:50
  such as shuffling, and the mister Bir emerged from behind
• 1:04:53
  the camera's location. Following him were sixteen children. Some looked
• 1:04:58
  as young as four, while others looked like they were
• 1:05:01
  practically teenagers. As the children entered, the administrator commented that
• 1:05:06
  this is the only episode that showed all sixteen victims.
• 1:05:10
  The kids all looked rather content, except for this one,
• 1:05:13
  who had visible bruises on his face and unlike the
• 1:05:16
  other kids, he had a more fearful expression. He also
• 1:05:20
  looked about eleven oh twelve, which caused me to recognize him.
• 1:05:24
  He was the kid who asked about his sister and
• 1:05:26
  subsequently meant an unknown fate at the end of episode
• 1:05:29
  twenty three. That one episode I watched during July ninety nine.
• 1:05:33
  When I told the administrator this, he confirmed it was
• 1:05:35
  the same kid. He was also featured in twenty four,
• 1:05:39
  an episode that only aired once at three pm in
• 1:05:43
  July of ninety nine. The police have still not found
• 1:05:45
  the tape. Mister Bear then broke into song, singing about
• 1:05:49
  citrus fruits and how good vitamin C was for you.
• 1:05:52
  I could barely hear the lyrics as they were muffled
• 1:05:54
  by the bear mask. The kids all drink their juice,
• 1:05:58
  the one from episode twenty three doing it rather reluctantly,
• 1:06:01
  and the episode ended. After viewing the tapes in possession
• 1:06:05
  of the David Road police station, I'm satisfied, but only temporarily.
• 1:06:10
  I still want to know the full story. The police
• 1:06:13
  just keep giving me the same crap about the creator
• 1:06:15
  of calaed On Local twenty one being a fetishist pedophile
• 1:06:18
  as well as an apparent cultist. I'll start off for now,
• 1:06:22
  get into university first and get information later. Hopefully I'll
• 1:06:26
  get back to this blog as soon as possible.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're getting to a spot here where I
• 1:06:33
  the thing about him. I don't know how you read this,
• 1:06:34
  but when he put the drop of stuff in the
• 1:06:36
  orange juice. It almost makes you think it's like a
• 1:06:38
  sedative or something that in a way makes me think
• 1:06:44
  maybe would help them not feel pain whatever, Like does
• 1:06:47
  is the guy is mister bhar Is he feeling sympathetic
• 1:06:52
  towards his kids. He's obviously some kind of mentally unwell man,
• 1:06:55
  But is he is? It gonna be one of those
• 1:06:56
  things where it's like the voices are telling me to
• 1:06:58
  do this, but I don't want to, or something, you know,
• 1:07:01
  like the information we're being given. I'm wondering what kind
• 1:07:06
  of drug he's given them. It seems like sedating them somehow,
• 1:07:09
  but I'm not.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: I'm not There would be a kind of drug that
• 1:07:11
  just kind of made the kids more passive, you know,
• 1:07:14
  they'll go along with whatever he says, kind of dult
• 1:07:17
  their senses, so to speak. We can also see that
• 1:07:20
  after that kid tried to get away, he was physically
• 1:07:22
  beat and now he's drinking it because he's in fear
• 1:07:25
  of that happening again.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he doesn't want to have that happen to
• 1:07:28
  him again. I'm wondering when if Elliott is going to
• 1:07:31
  try to reach out and meet up with I am
• 1:07:33
  real life in Siggy ninety two. I wonder if I
• 1:07:37
  wonder if they're going to have any kind of like
• 1:07:40
  meet up to be able to meet him in person
• 1:07:41
  or something. I'm curious like to I'd like to see
• 1:07:45
  if he meets them in person and to see, like
• 1:07:47
  what kind of conversation that would be.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, continuing on next update. May. Last month, I
• 1:07:56
  finally got my G two license in Ontario. Canada allows
• 1:08:00
  you to drive in a car by yourself as well
• 1:08:02
  as with some passengers after six months. I of course
• 1:08:06
  took advantage of this and drove into Caladon for a
• 1:08:09
  little Sunday drive. Since I haven't updated this blog in
• 1:08:12
  a while, I figured I might as well visit the
• 1:08:14
  house where the infamous channel of my childhood was located.
• 1:08:18
  The house looked different than when I saw it last
• 1:08:20
  in October. The place is no longer used as a
• 1:08:23
  daycare and just sat there abandoned. However, it did have
• 1:08:27
  a for sales sign showing me that someone still owned
• 1:08:30
  it wanting to get rid of it, though, So I
• 1:08:32
  want to ask you, what do you think of going back?
• 1:08:36
  You know he's not there logically, right, but what do
• 1:08:42
  you think about driving to the house.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: I think if you're in search of I think, if
• 1:08:46
  you're in search of answers, I think that you would
• 1:08:49
  you'd want to think that er I believe the desperation
• 1:08:53
  of your mind would think that there is something there
• 1:08:55
  that someone has not picked up on. Right. I think
• 1:08:58
  that also being in this thing and feeling this connection
• 1:09:01
  to something that's like mentally overtakes you seeing it. Feeling
• 1:09:05
  it in person is probably so much different. But I
• 1:09:08
  would say that it's you being like them being obsessed
• 1:09:12
  on the aspect of like him being like a pedophile
• 1:09:16
  and stuff. I think that even Elliott's just like, I
• 1:09:19
  think that there's something more at play here than that,
• 1:09:22
  and I think that he is wanting that kind of closure,
• 1:09:26
  especially because I mean, in a sense, he came so
• 1:09:29
  close to death himself. So it's like, I mean, I
• 1:09:33
  don't know. I mean, if it was me in the situation,
• 1:09:35
  I would be reading it like there is something that
• 1:09:37
  someone has not uncovered yet. In a fascination too. I mean,
• 1:09:41
  in a way, it's like it's almost like an obelisk
• 1:09:43
  er an old temple to this guy, you know what
• 1:09:46
  I mean, It's still standing, it's there, it represents all
• 1:09:48
  of these evils in.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: A way, Yeah, I think I would want to go
• 1:09:53
  to I don't know if it'd be a good idea,
• 1:09:56
  but i'd probably want to at least.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, at this point two, from what we've read,
• 1:10:01
  there's nothing to say that it's still harmful now, So
• 1:10:05
  I think that, like, I don't think I don't think
• 1:10:06
  it's like a negative to go back. I think it's
• 1:10:09
  just a matter of I'm wondering if his intentions are
• 1:10:11
  to just find something that has not been uncovered.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: No, it might be there might be something there. Uh.
• 1:10:19
  The abandoned house drew fuzzy memories from my mind, mainly
• 1:10:22
  of that day my dad took me to visit mister Bear.
• 1:10:25
  A feeling of dread came upon me what happened to
• 1:10:27
  the children while they were living in that house. I
• 1:10:30
  walked up the steps to the front door and peered
• 1:10:32
  through the window inside. I could see a nearly empty
• 1:10:35
  hallway with a few boxes at the end. At the
• 1:10:38
  end of the hallway to the right was an open
• 1:10:40
  doorway presumably leading to the kitchen to the left or
• 1:10:43
  two doors, both apparently leading to the rooms visible through
• 1:10:47
  the windows outside. I wondered where the cellar entrance was
• 1:10:51
  located and whether it had been sealed up. I walked
• 1:10:54
  around to the back of the house and found my answer,
• 1:10:57
  two wooden doors lying at an almost flat aim where
• 1:11:00
  padlocks shut. This had to lead to the cellar. Not
• 1:11:04
  wanting to hang around, you cannot imagine what was going
• 1:11:07
  through my mind at that time, I departed behind the house.
• 1:11:12
  The empty field continue on until it reached a dense
• 1:11:15
  forest that lined the horizon. I wondered if that was
• 1:11:18
  the forest where the bodies of the children were found.
• 1:11:22
  I thought to myself, screw it up, Sorry, go.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: Ahead, I was just say firs.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: And proceeded to walk across the field behind the house
• 1:11:31
  into the forest. The forest was oddly quiet, save for
• 1:11:35
  the few periodic sounds of a woodpecker drilling into a
• 1:11:38
  distant tree. I cautiously made my way deeper into the woods,
• 1:11:42
  not really caring about the fact that I had no
• 1:11:44
  idea where I was going. I don't know how to
• 1:11:47
  explain it, but it felt like there was something I
• 1:11:50
  had to find. I came to a thinner part of
• 1:11:52
  the woods and a few small houses in the distance.
• 1:11:56
  Polo's house crossed my mind, and I wondered if one
• 1:11:58
  of those homes had belonged to him. I neared a
• 1:12:01
  small clearing in which I could see three adequately sized
• 1:12:04
  logs gathered around a black, charred area, showing a small
• 1:12:07
  fire had been lit there recently.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: Hey, get the fuck out of our fort.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: Those words nearly gave me a heart attack. I turned
• 1:12:16
  to my left and saw two dark clothes people running
• 1:12:18
  towards me. My initial thought was to run. However, as
• 1:12:22
  they came closer, I saw that they were just kids
• 1:12:25
  in their early teens, possibly thirteen or fourteen, maybe even twelve.
• 1:12:29
  As they approached me, they realized my size as well.
• 1:12:32
  I'm six' one, while they could be no bigger than
• 1:12:35
  five eight one might have been five to seven.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: Damn big fuck sixteen year old.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: Goddamn, he's the big one.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: All boys eating his green beans and stuff.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: My word, he's going pro immediately.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we said, get the fuck out.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: The larger one, who was wearing a slip knot shirt, Hey,
• 1:12:57
  there's a reference, he said, Hey, it's not a biscuit,
• 1:13:00
  but it's a reference to something there it is.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: The large one who's wearing a slip knot shirt said
• 1:13:06
  half heartedly. I stood my ground and shrugged shorter. One
• 1:13:09
  was wearing a Metallica shirt. There you go. Another one
• 1:13:12
  like that swung out a butterfly knife and held it
• 1:13:15
  in my direction.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: This is literally Beavis and butt Head.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: Yes, you know what it is. You know what it is,
• 1:13:21
  the one reference we forgot to make earlier, the boys
• 1:13:24
  from Jeff the Killer.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: The shit.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: Looks like we've got some fresh meat.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: It looks like looks like we've got some fresh meat.
• 1:13:37
  Oh I like this, I like this kind of No,
• 1:13:40
  you wouldn't want to.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: I said, in a deep serious tone, trying to sound
• 1:13:45
  as bad ass as possible. I pulled out my cell phone.
• 1:13:51
  Two kids withdrew, the one in the Metallica shirt putting
• 1:13:54
  away the knife.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: Look, dude, we don't like people in our fort so
• 1:13:58
  can you just go?
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: The one in the slipknot shirt said, obviously intimidated. I
• 1:14:03
  had no business in the forest anyway, so I uttered
• 1:14:05
  out a simple pharn and turned before I realized I
• 1:14:09
  had a great opportunity.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: Did either of you hear a guy who murdered a
• 1:14:13
  bunch of kids in these woods about thirteen years ago?
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: I asked the kids. The two looked at each other
• 1:14:19
  in confusion. For the one wearing the Metallica shirt.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: Answered, yeah, everyone knows about that guy.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: He said to me, as if I were stupid. The
• 1:14:29
  kid in the Slipknot shirt continued.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: He still lives around here in the storm drain. My
• 1:14:34
  big brother's friend said he saw him in a bear
• 1:14:36
  costume once wandering around the forest at night.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: Whoa, Okay, that's the holy shit part of the entire city.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: He still lives around here in the storm drain is crazy.
• 1:14:48
  He is crazy.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: Oh that gave me chills the uh huh gosh, the
• 1:14:55
  idea of being in the woods at night and he's
• 1:14:57
  still wandering out there, like maybe looking for the kids
• 1:15:00
  he lost or looking for more and he lives in
• 1:15:02
  a storm drain. Could you imagine just peeking into a
• 1:15:05
  storm drain and seeing a bear costume?
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: Huh yeah? And you know, I mean I would assume
• 1:15:10
  too that he's still wearing it, as like some kind
• 1:15:12
  of weird identity kind of thing.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: He is.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: Miss guy's obviously mentally unwell. Anyways, Like, yeah, oh man.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: That's awful. See what's wild is when I when I
• 1:15:21
  heard this story for the first time, stuff like that
• 1:15:23
  didn't stick out to me because I was like, I
• 1:15:26
  think I was twelve when I read this the first time,
• 1:15:28
  So to me, I'm just like, oh, that's a that's
• 1:15:31
  a creepy monster thing to have, right, it didn't hit
• 1:15:34
  as hard as it did just now.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: Huh yeah, Well, you know what's kind of interesting what
• 1:15:38
  you saying that two at twelve? These guys are thirteen,
• 1:15:40
  and they're saying it as casually as you probably yeah, yeah, like,
• 1:15:43
  which which is pretty such yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Man.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: My instincts told me this was probably a lie, and
• 1:15:50
  the owner of calad On Local twenty one is probably
• 1:15:52
  long gone, only existing as a folklore in this smaller
• 1:15:55
  isolated community. However, as a human, thought of the mysterious
• 1:15:59
  un known sparked interest within.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: And where is the storm drain?
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: I asked, just out of curiosity. I don't actually believe
• 1:16:07
  the kid's story. The kid of the Metallica shirt stared
• 1:16:10
  at me for a few moments, his eyes seemingly full
• 1:16:12
  of annoyance yet curiosity for me.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: You're not from around here, are you? Why did you
• 1:16:18
  even come here?
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: Now? I do admit I was slightly startled by the
• 1:16:22
  nature of his question. However, I figured I might as
• 1:16:26
  well explain why I was there, just in case people
• 1:16:29
  mistook my intentions. I told the two kids about my
• 1:16:32
  experience with the man in Kalad on Local twenty one,
• 1:16:35
  that I had come to maybe seek out some sort
• 1:16:37
  of closure, although even I wasn't exactly sure. The kids
• 1:16:42
  seemed familiar with the channel, as they smiled and looked
• 1:16:44
  at each other when I mentioned it. They also became
• 1:16:47
  more understanding and gave me a detailed description on how
• 1:16:49
  to get to the storm train. Shortly after, I decided
• 1:16:53
  to just turn around the way I came and head
• 1:16:55
  back to the house. Even the kids are there fort
• 1:16:58
  But now you're probably wondering why I left out such
• 1:17:00
  a detail about the kids. Wait, sorry, but now you're
• 1:17:04
  probably wondering why I left out such detail about what
• 1:17:07
  the kids told me just now. It is because I'm
• 1:17:10
  choosing to conclude what I have gathered. Now here's what
• 1:17:14
  the kids told me in detail. The storm drain lies
• 1:17:17
  ahead of the kids for same direction I was heading.
• 1:17:20
  The drain ends at a small river where access water
• 1:17:23
  is drained out. Near here is a small playground, the
• 1:17:26
  kids told me. People rarely use it. The man supposedly
• 1:17:30
  lives in the large pipe the rain water drains out of.
• 1:17:33
  People have seen him, although always either wearing a bear
• 1:17:36
  mask or the mask and a full body bear costume. No,
• 1:17:42
  I do not believe this is true and in fact
• 1:17:44
  simply a myth made by the residents of Caledon. The
• 1:17:46
  story does not seem plausible in any way. Why did
• 1:17:49
  no one call the police? Didn't this guy look suspicious?
• 1:17:52
  And other questions like this leave the story invalid. I
• 1:17:56
  may visit the storm train not because I believe the story,
• 1:17:59
  but because I want an excuse to visit calaed On again.
• 1:18:02
  So this blog doesn't die with no more tapes to watch.
• 1:18:06
  I don't know what to talk about anymore. Thanks for
• 1:18:09
  continuing to support me in my blog. I know many
• 1:18:11
  are looking forward to more information about what happened in
• 1:18:14
  Calidan during the year nineteen ninety nine, and I'll do
• 1:18:16
  my best to continue my research into the topic.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: Elliott out Okay, and that was in May of twenty ten. Well,
• 1:18:24
  let me ask you, what do you think? Do you like?
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: I want to say, I do want to say immediately
• 1:18:30
  if we remove the polo part, because I feel like
• 1:18:33
  that kind of killed the pacing a bit. I feel
• 1:18:35
  like it was too much revealed at once, right, like, oh,
• 1:18:38
  they're fine and there's a fire. If we removed that part.
• 1:18:41
  This entire thing is so expertly dripped to the reader,
• 1:18:47
  like from from like, oh, there's this creepy guy back
• 1:18:51
  in ninety nine, and then a bunch of kids died,
• 1:18:54
  so that's why the police are interested. And then we
• 1:18:56
  hear more tapes, we start to put together psychology, we
• 1:18:59
  start to put to other purposes, and now we get
• 1:19:02
  in the detail that he's living in a storm drain nearby.
• 1:19:04
  Although in the real world I would say this is
• 1:19:06
  definitely an urban legend, right, because how does a guy
• 1:19:10
  live in the woods for ten years?
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: No one called the police, No one's spots and stuff
• 1:19:15
  like that. Yeah, but the story has given us just
• 1:19:20
  enough room for error with the supernatural that it could
• 1:19:23
  be possible maybe he's some spirit, maybe he's some ghost,
• 1:19:26
  something like that, right, And it puts you in this
• 1:19:30
  perfect gray area where you don't know what to believe,
• 1:19:33
  and it creates dread, it creates tension. It's so well
• 1:19:36
  done so far. I really this is a lot better
• 1:19:39
  than I thought it would be looking back on it now,
• 1:19:42
  and it's cool for that I'm happy to see that.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: The thing that is peaking my curiosity at the moment
• 1:19:48
  is that the last it ended with even Elliott, our
• 1:19:54
  narrator or protagonist, even questioning the validity of like this
• 1:19:57
  is probably fake. I mean, this doesn't make sense to
• 1:20:00
  where the author knows that these questions are arising and
• 1:20:04
  I and I'm wondering, even though that this was like
• 1:20:06
  kind of continued on if the charred bodies is breadcrumbs
• 1:20:11
  that is trying to it's setting up some kind of
• 1:20:15
  subversion of expectation. I'm I'm very curious to see. I
• 1:20:18
  don't think that we've fully gotten a whole grasp of
• 1:20:21
  what's going on. And I don't think it's as simple
• 1:20:23
  as the guy being in a pipe, Like I think
• 1:20:24
  that I'm curious. I feel like we're heading down a
• 1:20:27
  very interesting Even.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: If nothing more comes out of the guy in the
• 1:20:31
  pipe thing, I think it does serve to like the
• 1:20:34
  impact this event has had on the local community, right, No, sure,
• 1:20:38
  Like the legend is he's still out there, He's still
• 1:20:40
  in the woods. Yeah, yah, yeah, I think it works.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he himself has become an urban legend. Yeah, I
• 1:20:45
  mean like that's yeah, that makes sense totally.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: I'm loving this story so far.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: I'm thrilled with Yeah, I'm I'm locked in right now,
• 1:20:52
  all right?
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: Next update October seventh, twenty ten. Wow, nearly five months
• 1:20:57
  since I last updated. I'm guessing everyone no one pretty
• 1:21:00
  much thinks I was dead right, Thankfully I'm not. But
• 1:21:03
  in all my seriousness, I really have been busy these
• 1:21:06
  past few months, and a blog about something that could
• 1:21:09
  have killed me as a kid is a little low
• 1:21:11
  on my current priorities list. As of now, I'm living
• 1:21:15
  in Waterloo, Ontario, attending the University of Waterloo for computer engineering. Yeah,
• 1:21:20
  I'm a keener. As you can imagine, engineering is no
• 1:21:24
  walk in the park. So obviously I nearly forgot about
• 1:21:27
  this blog. But as you can see now i'm back.
• 1:21:31
  I remember to visit the storm drain the kids from
• 1:21:34
  the Kaledon Force told me about. I was out in
• 1:21:37
  a clearing between the whatded areas nearby marsh. Unfortunately I
• 1:21:41
  found absolutely nothing, say for a turtle that retreated into
• 1:21:45
  its built in home when it saw me. I snapped
• 1:21:48
  some picks of the pipe, which I have posted as well. Also,
• 1:21:51
  let me tell you it was not a storm drain
• 1:21:54
  like they said it was what I saw was a
• 1:21:57
  simple pipe, possibly to channel the act excess water from
• 1:22:00
  the marsh. When I returned from Caladon, however, I simply
• 1:22:04
  can't putting it off uploading everything until I forgot all
• 1:22:07
  about my blog. It just didn't seem important anymore. Please
• 1:22:12
  forgive me. It wasn't until only recently that I am
• 1:22:15
  now interested in my case again. On September tenth, I
• 1:22:18
  received an email from this email address, return theb at
• 1:22:22
  hotmail dot com. Funny, am, I right, well, it gets better.
• 1:22:27
  I'm going to copy and paste the exact email this
• 1:22:30
  guy sent me.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: Dear Eliot, my dear dear boy. You see the story
• 1:22:36
  may or may not be true, but it could happen.
• 1:22:40
  There are many slots for airtime you have. If you
• 1:22:44
  have money, you can have a public access TV channel.
• 1:22:48
  Some public access channels share airtime, like EWTN, which is
• 1:22:53
  a religious channel based out of Michigan that shows Catholic
• 1:22:56
  based programming, but during off air hours have independent shows
• 1:23:00
  or just blue screen. Cable networks have empty channels available
• 1:23:04
  for rent space, so the scenario of a pedo renting
• 1:23:07
  a channel on basic TV is not far fetched at all. However,
• 1:23:11
  Public Access TV is widely reviewed and can be terminated
• 1:23:15
  at any time. These are the rules of the United States,
• 1:23:18
  not for Canada, where the story took place. So if
• 1:23:20
  this happened in the US, the pedo would be tracked
• 1:23:23
  and arrested immediately. Yes, the story could happen, but it
• 1:23:27
  is unlikely. One hundred fuzzy hugs, mister Bear.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: Now, obviously this letter is fake and sounds almost corrupted,
• 1:23:35
  But still I would like to thank whoever sent it,
• 1:23:38
  though they could use some English lessons. Just reading the
• 1:23:42
  letter creeped me out, but because of it, I am
• 1:23:45
  now full of this new interest to continue my blog.
• 1:23:48
  I guess it's just funny trying to pursue the mysteries
• 1:23:51
  I've always questioned. Now my roommate knows about all this.
• 1:23:55
  He thought the letter was real and actually seemed more
• 1:23:57
  scared than I was for a second. Then I shrugged
• 1:24:00
  it off, so he did too. I mean, what are
• 1:24:03
  the chances of this being real? How could mister Behar
• 1:24:06
  know all this about public access TV and about when
• 1:24:10
  I went to Caledon on those occasions more or less
• 1:24:14
  know my email or me still be interested in this
• 1:24:17
  in his seller? Hah, I'm going to send a reply
• 1:24:21
  to return the be Wow, just looking at that email address,
• 1:24:25
  you can tell someone wanted to freak me out. It
• 1:24:28
  didn't really work, though, Yeah, we can definitely tell. That's
• 1:24:31
  why you're still talking about it. Although, to whomever you are,
• 1:24:35
  thank you for sparking my interest back into the full matter.
• 1:24:39
  Maybe I can find out more about what happened to
• 1:24:41
  mister Behar, hopefully, because although I don't buy that email,
• 1:24:45
  a part of me still feels anxious. Thank you to
• 1:24:48
  all those who are still following me and become avid fans.
• 1:24:52
  You are also why I'm choosing to continuousness. Thanks guys,
• 1:24:57
  he sounds freaked out.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: He's definitely freaked out the thing too, well, I guess
• 1:25:02
  just I'm out of curiosity. Do you think that that
• 1:25:05
  email is real? Or do you think it's like somebody
• 1:25:06
  who was following the story and then they I don't know.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: I kind of feel the same way I do about
• 1:25:11
  the storm Drain thing. You know, it could just be
• 1:25:13
  set dressing to show how this has affected it, but
• 1:25:15
  it could also potentially be real, because we don't know
• 1:25:20
  if mister Bear's just a normal person. I don't think
• 1:25:23
  it's real, but if there's some supernatural element, then I
• 1:25:25
  think it definitely could be. Okay, I can tell he's
• 1:25:28
  getting freaked out by it though, so yeah.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: I mean even the way he talked about the kids
• 1:25:33
  and stuff too, and how much he reiterated that he
• 1:25:35
  didn't believe what they were saying. I think that you
• 1:25:37
  could tell that. I think that he was trying to
• 1:25:40
  almost willfully think that he's like trying to convince himself
• 1:25:43
  it wasn't real. If that makes sense.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. Also, I will add, originally to
• 1:25:49
  my understanding, before this was all posted at creepypasta dot com,
• 1:25:53
  it was on Camden's actual blog he had, like his
• 1:25:57
  personal blog. Okay, so, I think those original pictures of
• 1:26:01
  what the storm drain looked like are now lost because
• 1:26:05
  I haven't seen them. I don't think I've seen anyone
• 1:26:07
  reshare them. But if anyone knows if those pictures can't
• 1:26:10
  be found, that would be cool, just for set dress
• 1:26:12
  in the video. But yeah, I think those pictures are
• 1:26:15
  lost because of the original blogs no longer up, which
• 1:26:18
  is gone. Yeah, I think so, at least all right now.
• 1:26:22
  But it's not like super indicative to the story. It
• 1:26:24
  was pictures of a storm.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: No, it's it'd be nice.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: It'd be nice. It's nice to have Yeah, just to
• 1:26:28
  see where it might be next. Update November seventh, twenty ten. Wow,
• 1:26:34
  I can't believe this blog hasn't been deleted yet. I
• 1:26:36
  haven't checked it for so long. I have my reasons
• 1:26:39
  and I'd rather not discuss them just yet. It has
• 1:26:41
  been a rather traumatic month for me. Some of you
• 1:26:45
  were right. I shouldn't have gone back trying to relive
• 1:26:47
  the mysteries of my childhood, but I couldn't resist. It's
• 1:26:51
  been a month since my last post, and a lot
• 1:26:53
  has happened. Let's recap where I'm at right now with
• 1:26:55
  regards to the whole Mister Bear incident. Return to be
• 1:26:59
  at hotmailed is no longer in use. I tried to
• 1:27:01
  apply to the email, but I got no reply. I
• 1:27:04
  tried again a while back, still no response. I've actually
• 1:27:07
  moved up to Ottawa, capital of Canada for those who
• 1:27:10
  don't know, for universities, so I haven't been back to
• 1:27:12
  Caladon or back home in the Peel region for a while.
• 1:27:16
  Add my reasons for leaving. As you could guess why,
• 1:27:19
  I've had to make a new email account because people
• 1:27:22
  keep pranking mailing me pretending to be mister Behar. Thanks
• 1:27:25
  a lot, guys, not that's the most two thousand.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: And nine not late epic.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: Troll face. Yeah, I just did that. Why have I
• 1:27:41
  ventured back to this blog? Mitchell Wilson, Remember my dad's
• 1:27:45
  ex cop friend gave me a phone call on October
• 1:27:47
  twenty third about a tape that was found in a
• 1:27:50
  branch of the Brampton Public Library. Brampton is my hometown,
• 1:27:55
  in case you haven't picked up on that. He claims
• 1:27:58
  he isn't allowed to discuss the contents of the tape
• 1:28:00
  with me. It's still in evidence, but he asked me
• 1:28:02
  to come check it out when I return home. That
• 1:28:06
  tape got the gears grinding again, because we all know
• 1:28:09
  what was on the last tapes I saw. I can
• 1:28:11
  only imagine what can be on it. I'm guessing it
• 1:28:14
  must have something to do with Kalad on Local twenty one.
• 1:28:18
  I guess. I just wanted to say I am continuing
• 1:28:20
  this blog and thank you for everyone who still follows it.
• 1:28:24
  I don't know when my next entry will be. But
• 1:28:27
  when I see that tape, all write what I find.
• 1:28:29
  I don't know what you expect, but the idea of
• 1:28:31
  seeing another tape has got to be interested in this
• 1:28:33
  whole mystery all over again, Elliott. So we now move
• 1:28:37
  on to the last tape. I will mention something that
• 1:28:40
  was really good that I didn't call out when it happened.
• 1:28:44
  Is that part where he's at the mister Bear house
• 1:28:47
  and the seller's right there, and he feels like really
• 1:28:50
  weird all of a sudden and walks away from it.
• 1:28:53
  Like the logical part of his brain knows that mister
• 1:28:59
  Bear's not there anymore, right, that it's not going to
• 1:29:02
  hurt him, But it makes so much sense to get
• 1:29:06
  out of there immediately, right, Like there's the cellar door.
• 1:29:10
  You know, horrible things happened there, and you saw what
• 1:29:13
  was on the other side of that door from that camera,
• 1:29:15
  and it's haunted you all these years, and the padlock's
• 1:29:18
  the only thing between you and it. The human inclination
• 1:29:21
  would be to run right to get out of there.
• 1:29:24
  Like I said, it's not logical, but it makes sense
• 1:29:26
  that he would leave rather than investigating. I really like
• 1:29:29
  that detail.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're right, You're definitely right. He as crazy?
• 1:29:33
  Is that? Whenever I read that, I thought that he
• 1:29:35
  left because the inclination was he was like, I want
• 1:29:37
  to break in. I don't know why I thought that
• 1:29:39
  until now, but I think that I think that hearing
• 1:29:41
  you say that, I think he might be. I think
• 1:29:43
  that makes way more sense of just that dreadful little feeling,
• 1:29:47
  like almost like that pit in your gut.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like his body's just like get out, get out,
• 1:29:51
  get out, you know.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: Like definitely.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of the tear works well,
• 1:29:57
  And I feel like Elliott is being realistically portrayed as
• 1:30:00
  someone who had that kind of trauma and he's now
• 1:30:03
  trying to process it and now he's like having to
• 1:30:06
  interact with it, and like the way that he interacts
• 1:30:09
  with it, I think it makes a lot of sense
• 1:30:10
  as a character.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: So big update here. Update January twenty first, twenty eleven,
• 1:30:18
  so two months after the last one. The end of
• 1:30:21
  twenty ten into the new year was dreadfully long for me.
• 1:30:25
  University has been giving me the usual sleepless nights, especially
• 1:30:28
  since I transferred to Ottawa, which is the place to
• 1:30:30
  party sarcasm. But now I am back home with my
• 1:30:33
  dad in Brampton Town I grew up in. I got
• 1:30:37
  home on the eighteenth of December and have been visiting
• 1:30:39
  with friends and family, or at least that's what I
• 1:30:42
  would rather have done. Now the festive holiday cheer that
• 1:30:45
  I usually have at this time of the month is absent.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: And I just want to say two really quick. One
• 1:30:50
  thing that I liked from that last post. Sorry about
• 1:30:52
  the late thought here, but one thing I liked about
• 1:30:56
  it was he's like, oh, people keep making these emails
• 1:30:58
  and trying to scare me.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: Haha.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: I really like. I like that because to me, like
• 1:31:03
  looking back at it, I'm like, what if it's just
• 1:31:05
  a guy making different emails? You so so creepy.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: See it fits because it's realistic that people would be
• 1:31:13
  making other emails and messaging him after here the idea.
• 1:31:16
  But it's also, like you said, a chance that it's
• 1:31:19
  him just making burner emails. So yeah, again it works
• 1:31:22
  in that of like, is this just like people's response
• 1:31:26
  to it or is this another mister Bhaer thing. Is
• 1:31:28
  there really a difference if it leads to the same
• 1:31:31
  dread and people who live with it, like the thing
• 1:31:33
  in the storm drain? Does it make a difference if
• 1:31:35
  kids won't go play on the playground either way? You know?
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: And also the idea too, that the story has picked
• 1:31:41
  up by this time. I'm assuming that the story online
• 1:31:44
  is doing very well and it's probably well known within
• 1:31:46
  the circles of the horror stories, right, But it could
• 1:31:49
  be the idea too that like it's gotten enough traction
• 1:31:52
  to where it's left, it's like made its way back
• 1:31:55
  to the guy and he's able to like know that
• 1:31:57
  the guy's talking and knowing that this kid is talking
• 1:32:00
  about this again. Yeah, and once to contact just like
• 1:32:03
  that idea. It's just kind of creepy and fun.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is again very well done. To answer
• 1:32:11
  the hundreds of emails and comments I got, Yes, I
• 1:32:14
  did see the tapes that my dad's friend, Mitchell Wilson
• 1:32:16
  promised to show me. These tapes, however, act as a curse.
• 1:32:19
  I want to know more, yet I want to forget everything.
• 1:32:23
  I couldn't help it. I needed to see those tapes
• 1:32:26
  not only for myself, but for all of you guys
• 1:32:28
  who are just as intrigued as I am by that
• 1:32:30
  ominous man in a bear suit for my past. However,
• 1:32:34
  after viewing those tapes, I feel that pit of dread
• 1:32:37
  deep inside me once again, that feeling where I know
• 1:32:41
  that all those kids, and those videos are dead, that
• 1:32:44
  I could have been one of those kids, and that
• 1:32:47
  humanity's a dark, dark place. If you haven't skipped this
• 1:32:51
  paragraph for the juici or details below, thank you for
• 1:32:55
  listening to my Ramblans. January the first, I called Mitchell
• 1:32:59
  Wilson and asked if there was a time where I
• 1:33:01
  could come by and view the tapes. Things were pretty
• 1:33:05
  slow at the station because of a snowstorm, so he
• 1:33:07
  said I could come down anytime that day. The tapes
• 1:33:11
  were located at a branch not too far from me,
• 1:33:13
  so I braved the slushy roads and terrible Bramton drivers
• 1:33:17
  and made my way to the Pure Regional Police Station
• 1:33:19
  located at the bramley A City Center. I met Wilson
• 1:33:24
  at the front desk, where he then led me up
• 1:33:26
  to the second floor into a small office, instructed me
• 1:33:29
  to have a seat and wait while he went and
• 1:33:31
  got the tapes. For leaving the office, he turned to
• 1:33:34
  me and said.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: I know you're curious, but are you sure you want
• 1:33:39
  to do this?
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: Of course I did, or at least thought so. Besides,
• 1:33:44
  Wilson's friend had pulled a lot of strings to get
• 1:33:46
  me in there, and I didn't want to waste the opportunity.
• 1:33:50
  This particular station had two tapes on hand. I was
• 1:33:54
  only able to watch a few minutes of footage, however,
• 1:33:57
  because the second tape was apparently two days should be
• 1:34:00
  played on a VCR. Mister Bear Seller Episode thirty. Mister
• 1:34:06
  Bear never ceases to disturb me, especially after what almost
• 1:34:09
  happened when I was younger. This episode took place outside
• 1:34:12
  in a forest at dusk, making it slightly hard to see,
• 1:34:15
  especially considering the quality of the film trademark of anything
• 1:34:18
  from Cold and Local twenty one. The episode started with
• 1:34:21
  the camera being held in the pause of mister Bear
• 1:34:25
  aiming at at himself that bear mask it looked more
• 1:34:29
  sinister in the shadows of the trees. The unmistakable muffled
• 1:34:33
  voice spoke.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: Up, Hello, children, Today, I will be doing a wonderful
• 1:34:38
  thing for my friends. I will be delivering them to
• 1:34:41
  a far away land. Well, they will surely be happy.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: Mister Bear returned the camera around to show an ATV
• 1:34:48
  with an attached trailer. But what stood out the most
• 1:34:52
  was that the trailer contained seven motionless children lying side
• 1:34:55
  by side.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: This here is the first load.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: The more will be there on their way soon.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: Mister Bhaer turned around and pointed the camera at a
• 1:35:04
  large burlapped tarp spread on the ground. He picked the
• 1:35:07
  tarp up, revealing a large hole that must have been
• 1:35:09
  at least twelve feet deep and maybe about fifteen feet wide.
• 1:35:13
  The rest of the episode consisted of mister Bear taking
• 1:35:16
  each kid and dropping them into the hole. I asked
• 1:35:20
  Wilson if they were dead, which he shook his head
• 1:35:22
  and replied not yet. Soon all the kids were in
• 1:35:27
  the pit. Some were in awkward positions due to being
• 1:35:29
  tossed in, but they remained unconscious.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: The vitamin C will surely help these children on the
• 1:35:35
  great journey that awaits them.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: Mister Bhaer mentioned as he panned the camera towards multiple
• 1:35:40
  bottles of gasoline beside a bush. The camera zoomed into
• 1:35:45
  the bottles as mister Bear hummed. Before the episode ended,
• 1:35:49
  Wilson revealed to me that these were seven of the
• 1:35:52
  sixteen victims found burn to a crisp gasoline is what
• 1:35:56
  the man playing mister Bear used to light them on fire.
• 1:36:00
  A pit full of burning children. Who the hell would
• 1:36:03
  do that? The feeling of dread found me once again
• 1:36:07
  when I realized that I could have been one of
• 1:36:09
  those kids. Wilson then explained to me that he had
• 1:36:14
  previously lied. The other tape confiscating by the Bramley of
• 1:36:18
  Police Branch did indeed work and contained the filming of
• 1:36:21
  the actual burning. However, he felt that I wouldn't be
• 1:36:25
  able to handle the disturbing and graphic nature of the episode.
• 1:36:30
  And you know what, maybe I can't. I don't even
• 1:36:33
  want to see it. I'm satisfied for now, but I
• 1:36:36
  just need some time to get myself together. The thing
• 1:36:40
  is the many ran keld on Local twenty one, still
• 1:36:43
  out there. More to come soon, Elliott. So how are
• 1:36:48
  you feeling right now?
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: Very very disturbing? You know what my mind Emilia went to,
• 1:36:56
  which is interesting. This concluded in twenty eleven. It started
• 1:36:59
  in two thousand and nine with some of the footage
• 1:37:01
  and stuff. The last part there feels so eerily similar
• 1:37:06
  to the movie Sinister, And how all of those and
• 1:37:10
  how of all those little recorded vignettes. It almost feels
• 1:37:14
  like a little too similar for them not to have
• 1:37:17
  been inspired by this in a way.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: Right when did Sinister come out?
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: Sinsor came on twenty twelve.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: Dude, Okay, so, oh are you saying Sinister took from
• 1:37:32
  this story.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying they stole anything. I'm just saying, like,
• 1:37:36
  it feels so odd that if this thing was exactly
• 1:37:39
  inspired in that way, but even just like the way
• 1:37:41
  of like the shitty camera the people lined up. I mean,
• 1:37:44
  like that movie is very infamous for those scenes, and
• 1:37:47
  this is like if at the time, even now, it's
• 1:37:50
  disturbing and stuff. Granted it's not as graphic as like
• 1:37:52
  probably a lot of the stories would be nowadays, but still,
• 1:37:55
  I mean, it just it feels like I'm like, that's
• 1:37:57
  what my mind went to immediately, was that movie those
• 1:38:00
  little vignettes.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: Maybe there could have there could there could have been
• 1:38:03
  some inspiration taken. Like I said, the story wasn't super
• 1:38:06
  popular till like twenty fourteen, once like it started making
• 1:38:09
  omes on YouTube. I mean there it still had a community,
• 1:38:12
  but it wasn't like, you know, as big as you
• 1:38:15
  know until later.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: Also the aspect too of like the Poughkeepsie tapes also
• 1:38:20
  being something of an inspiration to this, as well as
• 1:38:24
  like finding tape tapes of a serial killer and like
• 1:38:27
  it's just the raw footage from a serial killer's catalog
• 1:38:31
  of stuff. It's just the way that the stuff is presented,
• 1:38:33
  even like the monster himself, the bear kind of thing
• 1:38:36
  and wearing this mask, and my mind is just heading
• 1:38:39
  toward the sinister place. But it's a it's very revealing,
• 1:38:43
  it's very it's very revealing. I like that we're getting
• 1:38:45
  more dialogue from mister Bear as well. Definitely still in
• 1:38:48
  a manic kind of episode and stuff, still wondering what
• 1:38:51
  the vitamin C. Wondering what like the importance of vitamin C.
• 1:38:57
  If it's just him being fucking insane, or if the
• 1:39:00
  or some kind of gonna be some kind of revealed there.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: I think he's talking about just like, oh, the vitamin
• 1:39:06
  C will help them. It's because he knocked them out
• 1:39:08
  with it. I think that's what he means by that,
• 1:39:12
  because all the kids are all the kids are unconscious
• 1:39:14
  on the trailer right right.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: Did you do you think the tone in which I
• 1:39:18
  was reading it or do you think that like the
• 1:39:20
  way that he was saying like the quotes of mister Bear,
• 1:39:23
  do you think he was cheerful or do you think
• 1:39:28
  because even him saying like the vitamin C will help them,
• 1:39:31
  is he like slightly disturbed by what he's doing, Like
• 1:39:33
  what do you think because he's kind of catching himself
• 1:39:35
  on some of his words too.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think maybe he's just so far gone.
• 1:39:39
  I don't even know if he could be disturbed at
• 1:39:41
  this point with what he's doing. I think it's more
• 1:39:43
  so just he's it's like he's describing it to kids.
• 1:39:47
  He's trying to keep it whimsical, right, that's sure.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's definitely a deranged man. And
• 1:39:54
  I imagine that he's still keeping this kind of childish,
• 1:39:56
  like like positive voice kind of thing, you know what
• 1:39:59
  I mean, like just totally delusional.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I don't know. I don't I
• 1:40:05
  don't know if he is disturbed by what he's doing.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: The thing here that's next to says Henry, What does
• 1:40:12
  that mean? I n ri I?
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: Well, the update doesn't have a date. I don't think so,
• 1:40:21
  I n ri. I was is what was written on
• 1:40:25
  Jesus's crossed when he was crucified. So maybe that's what it.
• 1:40:31
  Maybe that's what's referencing. I don't know. Is there another
• 1:40:35
  name for it that means like no date given, like
• 1:40:38
  you know, kind of like saying in a.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean maybe, I mean just googling it, it
• 1:40:43
  just says, uh translates to Jesus Nazarene, King of the Jews.
• 1:40:47
  It's just what I see.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what was put on Christ.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: Which also if he's yeah, which is if this is
• 1:40:54
  just giving more validity to mister like this quote here,
• 1:40:58
  which it just says, I n R I. There's no
• 1:41:00
  date or time on this. By the way, guys, we're
• 1:41:02
  just this is what the entry says. Once upon a
• 1:41:07
  time there lived a boy named Elliott. Elliott was a
• 1:41:11
  clever boy who loved playing with his friends. One day,
• 1:41:14
  he watched a lovely television show about a bear and
• 1:41:17
  his children friends. The children loved helping each other, as
• 1:41:20
  good children should, but they also loved the bear. The
• 1:41:25
  bear loved the children since the children were so good
• 1:41:27
  at helping him and the fallen angel. The children and
• 1:41:30
  the bear wanted to play together forever with the help
• 1:41:33
  of their angel friend, but the fallen angel needed even
• 1:41:36
  more help, so the children had to give up the
• 1:41:38
  ultimate sacrifice. Because that's what friends do, Elliott. They help
• 1:41:43
  each other. Help us.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: Eliot, burn with us, Elliot. I want you, Elliott, he
• 1:41:49
  wants you, Elliott, come back to my cellar.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: Pretty pleased with sugar and icing on top, mister b
• 1:41:58
  And it ends with ni Ari again, which I'm guessing.
• 1:42:02
  I'm wondering if the religious undertone there, since he's a
• 1:42:05
  Satanist and fallen angels obviously Lucifer and stuff like that.
• 1:42:08
  But I'm wondering if I n RI is just kind
• 1:42:12
  of a representation of the crucifixion or like the sacrifice.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: That actually that now that you just said that, that's
• 1:42:19
  probably what it is, because Christ death on the cross
• 1:42:22
  is like the ultimate sacrifice for people. So maybe the
• 1:42:25
  Satanist used in it here is implying that the death
• 1:42:27
  of the children is the ultimate sacrifice for Satan, for
• 1:42:30
  the fallen angel. That probably something dropped.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: In my room. Holy shit, what.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 3: You say, God, say something dropped in the room, dude.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: A box dropped off my shelf randomly in my room?
• 1:42:41
  Are you kidding? Yes, Bye, fucking Elgatto, a fucking Elgado
• 1:42:47
  stream box box dropped from the second. I don't know
• 1:42:50
  how this is, Honestly, that's fucking me up. I don't
• 1:42:53
  know how I felt. I will scared the funk out
• 1:42:56
  of me.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: I will say, you saying I n RI is the
• 1:42:59
  one explicitly like religious symbol that we've mentioned so far,
• 1:43:04
  and when we mentioned it, the box falls off your shelf.
• 1:43:06
  So I wanted you to keep that in mind. Hunter.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: That actually that actually I'm not even joking. I'm like that, Actually,
• 1:43:14
  fucking that scared the ship on me. Okay, holy shit, good,
• 1:43:19
  I'm glad my door is closed door.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 3: My wife my wife open.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but at least she's just your wife.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 4: Dude?
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: Do I have a goddamn demon in my room right now?
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 3: I'm freaking out?
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't. I don't.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: I got I got this, and I got uh and
• 1:43:38
  I got this. So I'm gonna be all right regardless.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: Of Dude, you're saying this and this, and I have
• 1:43:43
  no idea what you're referring to is making it even worse. Dude,
• 1:43:46
  you're not sharing what I could be using to help myself.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: I got this.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: D Now, I'm I'm at that feeling where it's like
• 1:43:52
  I'm really creeped out. I'm like hearing like little things.
• 1:43:55
  I don't like this. I wonder, dude, I wonder if
• 1:43:58
  you could hear that was a pretty loud drop. I'm
• 1:44:00
  wondering in my recording if you could hear that that
• 1:44:01
  was fucked up. Wow, Wow, shut up, man, shut up, man,
• 1:44:09
  don't go that's my nightmare, sound all right. It goes
• 1:44:18
  into the next it goes into the next entry here,
• 1:44:20
  which is actually kind of crazy because the last entry
• 1:44:22
  that actually had a date was January of twenty eleven,
• 1:44:25
  and now it says update April fifth, twenty eleven, so
• 1:44:28
  it's been some time.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: A few months. Yeah, I will say, I will say,
• 1:44:32
  if that is what the I n R I means,
• 1:44:33
  that's pretty it's pretty sick that mister Bear is like
• 1:44:37
  fully committed to the the symbols of their religiousness. Because
• 1:44:42
  even if the story's not supernatural, which I don't think
• 1:44:45
  it is at this point, even if it's not supernatural,
• 1:44:47
  it's this guy whatever monster, mister Bear is so convinced
• 1:44:52
  that it's real that he's willing to kill over it.
• 1:44:54
  That's terrified. I just hate that.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: I said, iron Ri I, and the thing had to
• 1:44:58
  drop right when I said.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 3: It's funny. You keep saying it too, you keep provoking.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: It because I don't. It's I'm pretty sure. I think
• 1:45:06
  everybody who's working the studio today has left to I
• 1:45:08
  am very upset. I'm very I'm very upset. I'm not
• 1:45:12
  gonna lie. I'm actually very skittish right now. I'm very
• 1:45:15
  I'm very fucking skittish, and I don't like that.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna send you a list of like, uh, like
• 1:45:20
  phrases from the Bible you're definitely not supposed to say.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: And I'm dude, don't do that said that to me.
• 1:45:25
  Send me some good things to say. I want some
• 1:45:27
  good some good omens.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 3: We just hear Hunter scream and like that's the last
• 1:45:31
  creep Cast episode.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: Who yeah, all right, yeah, all right, here we go.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 3: Update April fifth, eleven. I wanted to update more. I
• 1:45:43
  truly did. However, certain circumstances had turned me off to
• 1:45:48
  the whole Caladan Local twenty one thing. I've since then
• 1:45:51
  had hundreds of emails about my blog and was even
• 1:45:54
  in contact with the magazine about my story. But now's
• 1:45:57
  the time to come clean to everyone. Where have I
• 1:46:01
  been for an entire year? Story of Pandora's Box is true?
• 1:46:04
  And I opened it. I opened it, and when I
• 1:46:07
  watched the second tape in the possession of the Brammela
• 1:46:10
  Police branch. The other subject I'd like to address is
• 1:46:13
  the number wait hold on. I watched it the second
• 1:46:17
  I hold up, I watched I opened it when I
• 1:46:21
  watched the second tape in the possession of the bramble
• 1:46:25
  of police branch. So he watched the one of the fire.
• 1:46:28
  Is that what he's saying.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: I think he has not told us what the subject is.
• 1:46:33
  I think he said, this is the second tape of
• 1:46:35
  there's the first one of them going in the pit,
• 1:46:36
  and he said, I don't I don't need to have
• 1:46:38
  watched the second one. I'm fine, but I think he
• 1:46:40
  ended up watching it anyways.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I opened it when I watched the second tape. Yeah, okay,
• 1:46:43
  I think you're right there. The other subject I like
• 1:46:46
  to address is the number of joke slash fake emails
• 1:46:48
  I've been getting from people claiming to be mister Bhaer.
• 1:46:51
  Let's start with the second tape, as that is what
• 1:46:53
  traumatized me into stopping my search temporarily. Also, I'm doubling
• 1:46:58
  down on the critique I had earlier. If you cut
• 1:47:00
  out Polo's part, I think the story's perfectly paced because
• 1:47:02
  we're coming up on the ending and now to tell
• 1:47:04
  us about that stuff like what was exactly happening in
• 1:47:08
  the woods works better. Whereas Polo kind of like gave
• 1:47:11
  a lackadaisical thing the kids being out in the woods.
• 1:47:13
  I know they were just around a campfire. Then it
• 1:47:16
  wasn't the kids being burnt, I don't think.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: But I still, yeah, it was still look guy, yeah, but.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 3: In my brain, I'm taking that out and this this
• 1:47:27
  is excellent, right.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 3: After a few weeks of playing silent, I decided to
• 1:47:33
  ask Mitchell Wilson if I could view that infamous second
• 1:47:36
  tape we had talked about. I don't know why. I
• 1:47:39
  just felt that viewing the tape would give me some closure.
• 1:47:42
  Wilson was obviously reluctant to show me, but I was persistent.
• 1:47:46
  He gave me an offer if I was still interested
• 1:47:49
  by the time I turned twenty, he would show me
• 1:47:51
  the tape. Not being able to do much else, I
• 1:47:54
  just played the waiting game. By the time i twentieth
• 1:47:56
  birthday rolled around, I was definitely still interested in viewing
• 1:47:59
  the tape. Gave Wilson a call, during which he admitted
• 1:48:02
  that he had hoped that I would forget about asking
• 1:48:05
  him again. I was not taking over for an answer.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: You really don't need to see it, he.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 3: Kept telling me. But I didn't need to see it.
• 1:48:13
  I had to at this point. Sure enough, he invited
• 1:48:16
  me to the Brandlea branch one Monday afternoon. Having watched
• 1:48:19
  every saw film and a video of animal slaughterhouses in
• 1:48:22
  my ethics class, I was sure I would be able
• 1:48:25
  to handle whatever the tape could throw at me. How
• 1:48:27
  naive I was, I will say, like, I know that
• 1:48:32
  I am want to talk, Like, if I hear there's
• 1:48:35
  a graphic video going around online, I want to see it, right,
• 1:48:38
  just that you know the the here's the human part
• 1:48:42
  of me. I guess I don't know. I don't think
• 1:48:46
  there's ever a scenario I would want to see videos
• 1:48:51
  of children being burned, I would hope. But I do
• 1:48:55
  understand that he has a personal connection to this and
• 1:49:00
  almost has a survivor's guilt about the people who were killed.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: Right, So I mean, yeah, man, if this is the
• 1:49:06
  last known tape of it, it would haunt you forever
• 1:49:09
  if you didn't know. Yeah, Like, honestly it would.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 3: I think so, So it makes sense, I guess you know,
• 1:49:17
  mister bear Sellar episode thirty one, When Wilson went to
• 1:49:21
  collect the tape from evidence, the officer in charge of
• 1:49:23
  the evidence room shook his head at me, his face,
• 1:49:25
  saying what are you doing. Wilson explained that this tape
• 1:49:30
  includes the last known episode of Mister Bear Cellar. I
• 1:49:33
  rightfully assumed that I would be seeing the fate of
• 1:49:35
  the children and began to feel a sense of tread.
• 1:49:39
  The episode opened inside a forest, the usual one from
• 1:49:42
  the previous episodes. This fact took me a while to
• 1:49:46
  realize because it was night. The trees and leaves just
• 1:49:49
  looked like shapes dancing around in the darkness. A faint
• 1:49:52
  glow of light was present on the right side of
• 1:49:54
  the screen. There wasn't any apparent audio. It appeared to
• 1:49:58
  be a windy night, yet the trees weren't making any noise. Slowly,
• 1:50:03
  the camera began to pan towards the glow, revealing smoke
• 1:50:06
  rising from a hole with the tips of flames peeking
• 1:50:08
  over the top. Wilson paused at this.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: Point, are you sure you want to see this? Dude? Wilson,
• 1:50:16
  stop fucking asking that and just show it already. How
• 1:50:18
  many times has Wilson said, are you sure you want
• 1:50:20
  to see this?
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 3: What I mean, you know, his friend's son a video
• 1:50:23
  of children burning?
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, but it's like the only thing Wilson has
• 1:50:28
  literally said in quotations is are you sure you want
• 1:50:31
  to see this?
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 3: That's fair, that's fair. At least change up the speech pattern.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just change I mean, yeah, it's just calm, it's
• 1:50:37
  just comical.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 3: I insisted on it, even though a voice in my
• 1:50:42
  head was telling me not to. The video continued. The
• 1:50:46
  cameraman moved towards the hole, joined a pit of fire.
• 1:50:49
  This was the hole that I had seen in the
• 1:50:51
  previous episode, only this time it was filled with shapes.
• 1:50:56
  I could see shapes moving around, flailing, some motionless. I
• 1:51:04
  knew perfectly well what they were. The camera began to
• 1:51:08
  adjust to the light and burning flesh, red black, a
• 1:51:17
  blur of surreal movements and colors. I wish I could
• 1:51:21
  forget what I saw, but you can't forget a scene
• 1:51:24
  like this. This was not a horror movie. This was reality.
• 1:51:29
  Human beings were being killed in a horrifying way, a
• 1:51:32
  fate that I could have potentially met. The video suddenly
• 1:51:38
  cut to dawn. The camera now positioned farther away from
• 1:51:41
  the hole. The fire was out, however, there was still
• 1:51:46
  smoke rising up. A figure was up ahead. I recognized
• 1:51:50
  it right away. The mister bear suit was laid out
• 1:51:53
  on the ground empty. It looked just as a nerving
• 1:51:58
  The suit was laid out in the shape of a cross.
• 1:52:01
  Cameraman did a lap around the suit, treating it like
• 1:52:05
  a treasured artifact. Placed at the head of the suit
• 1:52:08
  was a sign in bold letters, I in our eye
• 1:52:13
  was printed. Oh. The cameraman moved back to the end
• 1:52:21
  of the suit, zooming into the bear's face. The episode
• 1:52:24
  finally ended. Oh man, huh ah.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: That creepy.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 3: That gives me the chills. Not only killing the kids,
• 1:52:34
  I feel like it's a feeling go ahead, go ahead.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: It's a feeling where it feels like there's like spiders
• 1:52:41
  crawling on you or something, know what I mean. That's
• 1:52:43
  what I feel like.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I feel like, after killing those kids, he
• 1:52:48
  lays out the suit in a crucifix.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: Also kind of feels like the death of that character. Yeah.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like with what he's done, he has
• 1:53:00
  now crossed over, right, he has done, He's fulfilled his purpose.
• 1:53:04
  He's now the savior of his story.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it feels like. It feels like this idea,
• 1:53:10
  like this this kind of deity that he has is
• 1:53:15
  officially completed like the sacrifice.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, man, huh. I was speechless. It was
• 1:53:25
  like a dream. You can. You can find a lot
• 1:53:28
  of terrible things on the internet, but I had never
• 1:53:30
  seen anything like this. Wilson ast if I was okay,
• 1:53:33
  and I replied with a shaky yes. I assured him
• 1:53:36
  as we left that I was fine in that the
• 1:53:38
  video gave me some closure over the whole incident. He
• 1:53:41
  didn't seem too confident in me, but he left it
• 1:53:44
  at that. He was right. Though I had nightmares for weeks,
• 1:53:49
  I gave up. I didn't care about the whole thing anymore.
• 1:53:52
  A sick man burned a bunch of kids alive, tracking
• 1:53:54
  them with a fake kids TV channel. I could have
• 1:53:57
  been one of his victims, and I'm still here. I
• 1:54:01
  suppose I should be grateful, but I feel guilty. Am
• 1:54:05
  I still here only by pure luck? Ten months later,
• 1:54:08
  I'm back, but now I need to address something else.
• 1:54:11
  My email has been flooded with messages, so people ask
• 1:54:15
  for more details. Some ask if I can upload the tapes,
• 1:54:18
  and some people email me claiming to be mister Bear. First,
• 1:54:22
  I cannot get the tapes uploaded, as they're a in
• 1:54:24
  police possession is evidence, and B I have no idea
• 1:54:27
  how to transfer vhs onto a computer. As for people
• 1:54:31
  pretending to be mister Bear, You're not fooling me. You
• 1:54:34
  have dozens of people pretending to be the same person.
• 1:54:37
  It doesn't work. I haven't seen a fake calaed on
• 1:54:40
  Local twenty one YouTube channel, which is cute but still
• 1:54:43
  not real. Even more annoying is the fact that someone
• 1:54:45
  hacked my account just to put up some demented poem
• 1:54:48
  about me on this blog. I'll leave it in the
• 1:54:52
  entry above this one, just to show you guys. I've
• 1:54:55
  contacted my webmaster about the entry and was told that
• 1:54:59
  it was posted on Halloween. Oh spooky attached to the
• 1:55:04
  email paint with b at aol dot com, which I
• 1:55:10
  assume is another joke email. I'm over episode thirty one now.
• 1:55:15
  The images of what I saw will stick with me
• 1:55:17
  for a while, but I want to do one last hurrah.
• 1:55:22
  I will get into contact with Mitchell Wilson again and
• 1:55:24
  hopefully gets set up with the tapes in the possession
• 1:55:27
  of the other Peel police branches. Try to update you
• 1:55:30
  guys as soon as I can. I'm sure this won't
• 1:55:32
  take so long. Again, thank you to everyone who still
• 1:55:35
  reads this.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: Elliott Wow. I mean, you know, it's interesting because you
• 1:55:44
  can see so many influences and what other people have
• 1:55:47
  done here, especially even like my mind kind of goes
• 1:55:49
  like Penpal in a way of an obsessive person, you know,
• 1:55:54
  even with the end of Penpal, where it's the guy
• 1:55:57
  who was obsessed with this person so much that he
• 1:55:59
  dressed his friend up, you know. And I mean like
• 1:56:04
  it's like this this cult of obsession thing, the idea too,
• 1:56:07
  of sacrificing and that kind of thing. I mean, reading
• 1:56:12
  this back in the day must have been extremely graphic.
• 1:56:14
  I mean it was disturbing now, but I feel like
• 1:56:16
  now people have to push the stakes because of stories
• 1:56:19
  like this, you know, like this. I wonder how crazy
• 1:56:22
  this must have felt reading it back in twenty eleven.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 3: The description of the bodies burning so intense, some still,
• 1:56:30
  some moving, some slowly.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: You know, like mm hmmm, ah.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 3: Man, harrowing stuff. And then yeah, the following of the
• 1:56:40
  mister Bear costume and the shape of a crucifix, and
• 1:56:44
  then he's just supposedly maybe he's out there, maybe not.
• 1:56:48
  Maybe it is people hacking his email, maybe it is
• 1:56:50
  just legends of the thing that lives in the storm drain.
• 1:56:53
  Maybe it's still him, maybe it's the ghost of him,
• 1:56:55
  Maybe it's ah. Man, it's it's such a perfect place
• 1:56:59
  of like legends you as a kid, and you don't
• 1:57:01
  know if it's real or not. It's such a perfect
• 1:57:04
  adaptation of you still in the course of the story
• 1:57:07
  don't know what's real or not. You don't know what
• 1:57:09
  to do.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no finality to anything. Yeah, so much.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 3: That's it. That's the perfect way of phrasing it. Yeah,
• 1:57:15
  there's no closure. No part of this feels like and
• 1:57:19
  that's done. It's just like open doors and none of
• 1:57:22
  them shine.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The eerie nature of it being so open to
• 1:57:26
  is that I think for me and probably viewers listening,
• 1:57:29
  is that the idea that any one of those joke
• 1:57:31
  emails are definitely probably joke emails, but it's just that
• 1:57:34
  it's just all it takes is for one to be
• 1:57:36
  legitimate to just completely unravel and make this thing even
• 1:57:40
  more fucking crazy, you know. And the idea too that
• 1:57:43
  like he does know that that mister Bear does know Elliott,
• 1:57:46
  I mean he received that letter. Who knows I mean,
• 1:57:48
  like mister Bear, the person who is still not you know,
• 1:57:52
  no one's contacted him or no one knows where he's
• 1:57:54
  at or who he is. Could be obsessed. I mean,
• 1:57:56
  this is an extremely deranged man, you know.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say I think the hack quote unquote
• 1:58:04
  that happened that showed it was the poem about him
• 1:58:08
  that mister Bear supposed to wrote. I do think that's
• 1:58:10
  real because of the four letter edition, right, because.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: It how else would they know How else would they
• 1:58:17
  know exactly?
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 3: How would they know what was about to show up
• 1:58:19
  at the next take?
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: So, and I think that's what that letter was doing.
• 1:58:23
  I think that's what that submission was doing.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 3: That would mean that he probably is still out there online.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: Or not only is he still out there, but he
• 1:58:32
  knows Elliott like he knows what's going on in stuff.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 3: Still he misses him, he wants him to join him, right,
• 1:58:38
  so maybe an update never happening after that implies that
• 1:58:41
  mister Bear got him, yeah, made him join the angel.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: Huh you never you never know. I mean ending it
• 1:58:47
  in this way is frustrating in the sense of like,
• 1:58:51
  I just want to know closure of some kind, even
• 1:58:54
  if it's him saying like I'm done with this, I'm
• 1:58:57
  you know, I'm putting this behind me, blah blah blah.
• 1:58:59
  But even that, even this last episode, he's like, no,
• 1:59:02
  I'm gonna go look for more and I'm gonna see
• 1:59:04
  what happens. But we never get that kind of It's
• 1:59:07
  like a you know, in a way, Ted the Caver
• 1:59:12
  kind of ends in a similar way, except Ted the
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  Caver gives you that ultimatum of like, you know, I'll
• 1:59:17
  update you when I'm back, but it never comes back,
• 1:59:20
  you know what I mean, it's that beautiful ending. This
• 1:59:23
  one is just we don't even who knows, you know.
• 1:59:26
  I mean, as we all have known this entire time,
• 1:59:28
  Elliott has been teased, like or not teasing us, but
• 1:59:31
  he's been basically filling us in on like, hey, sorry,
• 1:59:34
  i've lost interest. My life kind of took a crazy thing.
• 1:59:36
  I don't know if a half time. So he's done this,
• 1:59:38
  so who knows. I mean, he could have also just
• 1:59:40
  been like, ah, I just don't want to do it anymore,
• 1:59:42
  I don't want to update it. I'm tired of all
• 1:59:43
  the emails. So there's so many things, there's no finality
• 1:59:47
  to any of it, and it makes it really really entertaining.
• 1:59:50
  And I can see how much too with did did
• 1:59:53
  cambell Cove come after this or before this?
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 3: Let me look real quick. So the story got like
• 1:59:58
  I said, it started in too and nine. Final update
• 2:00:01
  was twenty eleven. It blew up. I was wrong in
• 2:00:05
  saying that it had its first wave in twenty fourteen
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  with YouTube channels. Actually got its first wave when someone
• 2:00:11
  posted it to four chance x board on September ninth
• 2:00:15
  of twenty twelve. And when that happened, that's when people
• 2:00:19
  started to notice, started to go to the original blog site.
• 2:00:21
  Whatever I say, so twenty twelve was when it got popular.
• 2:00:26
  It was published in two thousand and nine on his
• 2:00:30
  website on Chris Drob's personal website.
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  Speaker 2: Regardless if which everyone came first, I think that like
• 2:00:39
  either one could have been inspired by each other. But
• 2:00:41
  one thing I really appreciate about this is that it
• 2:00:43
  starts off and it kind of has some weird, creepy vignettes.
• 2:00:46
  But I'm I'm glad that we do get to kind
• 2:00:49
  of go in more of a narrative device of stepping
• 2:00:52
  away from like each post just being new entries, which
• 2:00:56
  you know, there are a lot of entries of the
• 2:00:58
  tapes and stuff like that, but we get so much
• 2:01:00
  more out of just being able to get the narrator's
• 2:01:05
  perspective on things and being able to really feel enticed
• 2:01:08
  with this world. Like, I mean, one thing that I
• 2:01:10
  really appreciate about, like some of the stuff that came
• 2:01:12
  after these were like really early creepypastas is people really
• 2:01:15
  taking time and like really getting into the characters or
• 2:01:19
  especially a protagonist and stuff, not making it feel like
• 2:01:22
  it's just kind of a random blog post, but really
• 2:01:24
  like pushing the idea that like these blog posts can
• 2:01:27
  just I mean, it can be a huge exposition dump
• 2:01:30
  for people, you know what I mean. Like my favorite
• 2:01:33
  part of this whole thing was definitely running into the
• 2:01:35
  Beavis and butt Head looking kids and having that little
• 2:01:38
  urban legend h kind of pop up, Like I really
• 2:01:41
  enjoyed that, and I wish that there was just more
• 2:01:46
  to that, which granted, you know this it flows so well,
• 2:01:49
  like you're saying, if you didn't have the pollo part,
• 2:01:52
  I think that are the Polo part. I think that
• 2:01:54
  this would be just such a well paced story that
• 2:01:58
  just is just awesome, just such a fun read. First off,
• 2:02:02
  so casual and fun, but part of me also because
• 2:02:06
  I'm kind of invested into it is just wishing that
• 2:02:08
  each one of these, like we got to hear more,
• 2:02:10
  you know, even like some of these. One thing I
• 2:02:12
  think would be kind of interesting. I'm curious to hear
• 2:02:14
  what you think is even getting to see more of
• 2:02:18
  these joke emails.
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 3: I yeah, yeah, seeing what more people are saying, even
• 2:02:22
  if it is just set dressing for.
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 2: The world exactly, even if it is just kind of
• 2:02:27
  I want to get more and more into the psyche
• 2:02:29
  of having to read these as well, like that building
• 2:02:32
  sympathy for Elliott and feeling as confused as he is,
• 2:02:36
  like sharing more of them, you know, Hey, here's a
• 2:02:38
  string of stuff, or even just being like someone sent
• 2:02:41
  me this, it's getting really annoying or whatever, Like I
• 2:02:43
  think that way, I feel like I would have been.
• 2:02:45
  It's just a giant teeter totter. It's just kind of
• 2:02:49
  going back and forth whatever. I think that that's really fun,
• 2:02:52
  really really fun. I'm glad we read this one man.
• 2:02:54
  This was fun.
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it does go hard. There is one thing that's
• 2:02:58
  bothering me, though I swear I remembered a different tape.
• 2:03:06
  There was an extra tape that I kept waiting for
• 2:03:09
  it to come up. And it's not. And it's honestly
• 2:03:11
  kind of freaking me out a little bit now because.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 2: You have your own personal thing, because that's the whole.
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 3: Plot, right, Like, Oh, I forgot that I saw this
• 2:03:19
  as a kid, but I swear there was a tape
• 2:03:23
  that the whole the whole episode was just hands. It
• 2:03:27
  was like just hands on camera, like talking like, oh,
• 2:03:30
  what do you want to do today? And then one
• 2:03:32
  of the hands cuts the other with scissors and you
• 2:03:35
  could hear like a muffled scream when that happens, as
• 2:03:38
  if like it's mister Bear holding the kid's hand and
• 2:03:41
  making him cut himself.
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 2: Do you think that this could have been a tape
• 2:03:45
  like a maybe it's a tape that the series.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 3: Hold on, I'm gonna I'm gonna find this out, because
• 2:03:50
  when it didn't happen, I'm like, oh, it must be
• 2:03:53
  Candle Cove. But I look it up and that's not
• 2:03:55
  Candle Cove. Hmmm, hold on, now I'm scared. Oh I
• 2:04:01
  will mention why I'm looking. This actually got adapted in
• 2:04:04
  twenty seventeen to an Amazon Prime series, a mini series
• 2:04:09
  or Amazon Video, but there were also a but there's
• 2:04:13
  a ton of like alternate nineteen ninety nine stories out
• 2:04:16
  there where like people wrote, oh, well, this is a
• 2:04:20
  lost mister Bear episode, or this is another Booby episode
• 2:04:23
  stuff like that.
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 2: So I'm curious. Is there anything that we can research
• 2:04:27
  that shows that possibly why these were removed? Yeah? I
• 2:04:33
  think I'm curious.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm curious too.
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 2: Or maybe even somebody, if anybody in our comments knows
• 2:04:39
  as well, we'd love to pin or do anything too.
• 2:04:41
  I mean, like just because that was the last Booby
• 2:04:44
  entry there. So I'm curious to this.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 3: I feel like there's some creepypasta community lore here that
• 2:04:49
  I'm not privy to, but I want to know. I
• 2:04:52
  remember when that happened, when people started discussing the hand thing.
• 2:04:56
  I remember people saying, oh, that's similar to this other thing.
• 2:04:59
  But I don't don't know if it was straight up
• 2:05:00
  plagiarism or anything, if it was just another series about
• 2:05:05
  talking hands, unless the story itself was ripped. But Hi,
• 2:05:09
  so pretend Detective Windygoon here. I've done some research online
• 2:05:14
  and I'm pretty sure I know what happened why, I
• 2:05:17
  and likely some of you remember a different version of
• 2:05:20
  the story than the one we just read. And all
• 2:05:22
  of this is just like off hand research I've done
• 2:05:25
  within a couple hours. So if I'm wrong about any
• 2:05:28
  of this, feel free to correct me in the comments below. So,
• 2:05:30
  as mentioned earlier, Camden Lamont is the original author of
• 2:05:34
  the nineteen ninety nine story. He posted the story to
• 2:05:37
  his personal blog on November fourteenth of two thousand and nine,
• 2:05:41
  again with subsequent updates coming out on the dates listed
• 2:05:45
  within this episode. However, it seems that Lamont wasn't really
• 2:05:49
  aware of creepypasta culture or of people, you know, copy
• 2:05:53
  and pasting horror stories around the Internet, so he just
• 2:05:56
  posted the horror story as his own project to his
• 2:05:59
  personal blok and that'll be the personal blog that we
• 2:06:02
  link in the description of this video, so that way,
• 2:06:05
  any traffic from this goes to the original creator. But
• 2:06:08
  it seems that after he had posted his story, people
• 2:06:11
  were taking that story and posting it to creepy pasta
• 2:06:14
  boards without crediting him. Not only that, but they were
• 2:06:18
  adding their own additions to the story. And one of
• 2:06:22
  these editions is the talking hand show known as Booby
• 2:06:25
  that I mentioned a moment ago, which in itself is
• 2:06:28
  just a parody of an actual talking hand show called Oubie.
• 2:06:33
  Not only that, but one of the people who copied
• 2:06:35
  the story over to a creepypasta form added an extra
• 2:06:38
  episode of Paint with the Soul that was a one
• 2:06:40
  for one copy of an allentatorial video, a popular YouTube
• 2:06:44
  arg in the following years. Since the majority of people's
• 2:06:47
  interaction with the nineteen ninety nine story was either through
• 2:06:50
  the Creepy Pasta forums or through Creepy Pasta YouTubers, everyone
• 2:06:55
  assumed these editions to be part of the original author story.
• 2:06:59
  So when people started to recognize that Booby was just
• 2:07:03
  a low effort copy of UBI and that the Paint
• 2:07:07
  with the Soul episode around Alan Tatorial was straight up plagiarism,
• 2:07:11
  they started to accuse the original author, Camden Lamont, of
• 2:07:15
  being the one to copy those stories for his own work.
• 2:07:18
  But like I said, Camden never put those into the story.
• 2:07:21
  It's the people who ripped his story and then re
• 2:07:23
  uploaded it who added the not authentic parts. This also
• 2:07:28
  led to a lot of drama in like creepypasta communities
• 2:07:31
  around twenty eighteen, because Camden, who wasn't aware that any
• 2:07:34
  of this was going on, found out that all of
• 2:07:36
  it was going on at once and started to take
• 2:07:39
  down versions of the story that again stole his story
• 2:07:42
  and then added parts that made it seem like he
• 2:07:45
  was copying someone else's work. But people who didn't know
• 2:07:48
  the full story of that just assume Camden didn't want
• 2:07:51
  people to talk about his plagiarism, which again, he never
• 2:07:54
  actually did. So Camden received a lot of hate because
• 2:07:57
  people thought he just stole other people's stories and was
• 2:08:00
  trying to hide the evidence. So the version that we
• 2:08:02
  read today is Camden's original work as he originally wrote it,
• 2:08:05
  and all this stuff about plagiarism and whatnot are from
• 2:08:08
  people who ripped his story in the first place. Again,
• 2:08:10
  link to his original blog post in the description. And
• 2:08:13
  if I got any of this wrong, please let me know.
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 2: You know, in nineteen ninety nine it was rad, I
• 2:08:17
  mean very very rad. I know people people have requested
• 2:08:20
  this one in the showers, so maybe we'll maybe we'll
• 2:08:22
  hit the showers next or.
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 3: Kind of makes up for them requesting the thing in
• 2:08:27
  the basement.
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 2: I'm still you know what. Whatever they requested is not
• 2:08:31
  our fault, is all I have to say. This one,
• 2:08:33
  This one was luckily a strong one, Like I think
• 2:08:35
  it's it's awesome, just a lot of cool influences in there,
• 2:08:37
  and it's just it's interesting to see these kind of
• 2:08:40
  Internet stories and how they you know, inspire each other
• 2:08:43
  and it's cool. Man, I'm stoked on it.
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 2: But without further ado, I mean that was nineteen ninety nine,
• 2:08:50
  Ladies and gentlemen. As always, we request just be sure
• 2:08:53
  to listen to this on audio platforms if you can,
• 2:08:55
  and review or you know, give us a nice little
• 2:08:57
  thumbs up or five star rating. And also if you
• 2:09:00
  have any story suggestions, please be sure to leave them
• 2:09:03
  down below. We do look at that, and we look
• 2:09:05
  at all the funny little fan edits as well. It
• 2:09:07
  makes it, like I said, belly jiggling. It's very very nice.
• 2:09:10
  I'm actually going to go clean my shorts because of
• 2:09:12
  the Elgato box dropping. That really, uh that got me
• 2:09:16
  pretty bad. It is a stinky mess in my pants
• 2:09:18
  right now from that and I am still shaking.
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 3: That's what you did.
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 2: That is what I get. I feel bad. But without
• 2:09:26
  further ado, thank you so much for watching creep Cast
• 2:09:28
  and we will see you in the next one.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 3: See you in the next one. Everyone, Ah bye bye
• 2:09:34
  bye bye.