Latest / Earn Your Leisure / EYL #178 Shyne on Being a World Leader, Relationship with Diddy, & Music Past
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Coach, the energy out there felt different. What changed for
- 0:03Speaker 1: the team today?
- 0:03Speaker 2: It was a new game day scratches from the California
- 0:06Speaker 2: Lottery players everything.
- 0:07Speaker 3: Those games sent the team's energy through the roof.
- 0:09Speaker 1: Are you saying it was the off field play that
- 0:11Speaker 1: made the difference on the field.
- 0:13Speaker 3: Hey, little play makes your day, and today it made
- 0:15Speaker 3: the game.
- 0:16Speaker 4: That's all of now, Coach, one.
- 0:18Speaker 1: More question play than you Los Angeles Chargers, San Francisco
- 0:21Speaker 1: forty nine Ers and Los Angeles ram scratchers from the
- 0:23Speaker 1: California Lottery. A little play can make your day. Peace
- 0:27Speaker 1: made responsibily. It must be eighteen years or older to
- 0:29Speaker 1: purchase late or claim.
- 0:30Speaker 4: Removing the queen is of the head as the head
- 0:34Speaker 4: of state is something that's long overdue, and becoming a
- 0:38Speaker 4: republic just means that you know you're no longer you
- 0:41Speaker 4: have no affiliation with the United Kingdom and your former
- 0:46Speaker 4: colonial masters.
- 0:48Speaker 5: So country is already an independent country, but they were
- 0:53Speaker 5: still kind of under.
- 0:55Speaker 4: The flag of real mafia criminal organization type mentality that Okay,
- 1:03Speaker 4: I'll let you have the block, but you know you
- 1:06Speaker 4: still gotta check in with me.
- 1:09Speaker 6: My graduate from my school being false backdrop B drop
- 1:15Speaker 6: drop backdrop.
- 1:28Speaker 5: So if you watch Earn your Leisure, you know that
- 1:31Speaker 5: one thing we stay away from is politics. We've never
- 1:36Speaker 5: interviewed a politician. That is for a reason because we're
- 1:40Speaker 5: a political You could be a Democrat, you could be
- 1:43Speaker 5: a Republican. That's we don't really go into that lane.
- 1:45Speaker 5: Our lane is financing business. But there's exceptions to every rule.
- 1:52Speaker 5: So if we was going to have a conversation with
- 1:54Speaker 5: a politician, there was only one, maybe two that we
- 1:58Speaker 5: would have made an exception or so. Shout to my
- 2:02Speaker 5: brother Steve O. When he told me that we had
- 2:05Speaker 5: an opportunity to talk to Sean, I was like, Nah,
- 2:08Speaker 5: that's a no brainer. That's legendary. You know what I'm
- 2:10Speaker 5: saying for us being fans of the culture, being fans
- 2:14Speaker 5: of the music, seeing Sean's transition from being the hottest
- 2:20Speaker 5: rapper in New York and the unfortunate incident being incarcerated,
- 2:25Speaker 5: being kicked out of America for almost a decade, wasn't
- 2:29Speaker 5: even allowed on American soil. To now before you say
- 2:33Speaker 5: his name, you must say the honorable, the honorable Sean Barrow.
- 2:37Speaker 3: Clap it up for that.
- 2:41Speaker 5: So this is a conversation that I'm extremely excited about.
- 2:45Speaker 5: We're going to talk about finance, We're going to talk
- 2:47Speaker 5: about his journey, were going to talk about politics, We're
- 2:49Speaker 5: going to talk about world politics, crypto, all of that stuff.
- 2:54Speaker 3: So huh oh, all my beliefs.
- 3:00Speaker 2: We got some believes in the If you believes, it
- 3:02Speaker 2: makes no noise.
- 3:03Speaker 7: Now, we got some brothers over here, shout out to you.
- 3:05Speaker 7: We believe.
- 3:06Speaker 5: There's three one a head, two here and Shine. So
- 3:11Speaker 5: I need you to get on your feet. I need
- 3:12Speaker 5: you to get on your feet.
- 3:13Speaker 3: Please.
- 3:13Speaker 5: This is something that's extremely and poorant for us, poort
- 3:17Speaker 5: for us. And welcome my brother Shine Narrow, the honorable
- 3:23Speaker 5: Shine Barrol.
- 3:37Speaker 4: Not so many people want to fuck with us. And
- 3:42Speaker 4: look your son snitches.
- 3:44Speaker 3: All right, take your seat.
- 3:47Speaker 4: Like what I'm saying, I'm telling them when my father
- 3:50Speaker 4: busting and loaded me.
- 3:51Speaker 3: Think you just that's the vibe that.
- 3:58Speaker 8: I like.
- 3:59Speaker 5: I like how she blended that out in the Trump
- 4:04Speaker 5: Very good. All right, So here's the deal, ladies and gentlemen.
- 4:08Speaker 5: We got a lot of good information for you guys today.
- 4:12Speaker 5: We're gonna do this legendary interview. After that we're gonna
- 4:16Speaker 5: have a performance. Then we're gonna bring my brother Ian
- 4:19Speaker 5: dunlap out. He shout out to Ian, shout out to
- 4:26Speaker 5: Red pen. That's a fact.
- 4:27Speaker 3: So it's only one thing that we ask of you, guys.
- 4:30Speaker 3: That's it. It's free.
- 4:32Speaker 5: Everything is you know, there's no charge to come in here.
- 4:36Speaker 5: There's good hospitalities, good vibes. You can network whatever you want.
- 4:39Speaker 5: But during the time that we're speaking, please please try
- 4:42Speaker 5: to be quiet. That's the only thing that we ask
- 4:45Speaker 5: if you guys, and shout out to my brother might
- 4:47Speaker 5: started to make a mallory before I forget.
- 4:49Speaker 3: Thank you for your advocacy, Thank you for joining us.
- 4:51Speaker 3: I appreciate you.
- 4:54Speaker 5: All Right, let's get into this, Shine, the honorable, the
- 4:58Speaker 5: honorable Shine Arrow. This is like, it's not enough time.
- 5:03Speaker 5: I feel like this needs to be a five part series.
- 5:06Speaker 5: Your life story is so amazing, you know, so I
- 5:11Speaker 5: want to talk about the political aspect of it, but
- 5:16Speaker 5: I want to start at the beginning. When did you
- 5:21Speaker 5: actually realize that you had a talent for music and
- 5:27Speaker 5: when did you actually start to pursue that Because when
- 5:30Speaker 5: I first heard of you, everybody was saying like, this
- 5:33Speaker 5: is the new big that was the buzz in New York,
- 5:36Speaker 5: And when I heard it was a bit in war
- 5:39Speaker 5: for you, and then I heard the music and it
- 5:42Speaker 5: was like it was just like something I hadn't heard before.
- 5:45Speaker 3: So when did that start? As far as the musical side.
- 5:48Speaker 4: You know, I always love music. My father was a
- 5:55Speaker 4: DJ before he became a politician. So we always have
- 6:02Speaker 4: a joke in the family that, you know, I got
- 6:06Speaker 4: something on him that I'm actually a successful music and
- 6:11Speaker 4: he failed. But you know, I love music, you know,
- 6:15Speaker 4: ever since I came out of the wound. You know,
- 6:18Speaker 4: I used to write poems. I used to write poetry,
- 6:22Speaker 4: you know, because I you know, I thought I was
- 6:24Speaker 4: a casting over when I was a young kid, and
- 6:27Speaker 4: so you know, my path to a young woman's heart
- 6:32Speaker 4: was to charm her with you know, my lexicon and
- 6:37Speaker 4: my wordplay. So that was my first four way into
- 6:44Speaker 4: you know, music first is writing poetry. But you know
- 6:48Speaker 4: I love music. I love Bob Mally, you know, really
- 6:52Speaker 4: reggae music. It's my first love. And for those you know,
- 6:59Speaker 4: true uh hip hop heads, they'll confess that, you know,
- 7:06Speaker 4: cool Her he's the Jamaican DJE that moved moved to
- 7:12Speaker 4: the Bronx and took the sound system from Jamaica. And
- 7:17Speaker 4: you know that's how hip hop started. So yeah, so
- 7:19Speaker 4: I used to listen to like Shaba Ranks and super
- 7:22Speaker 4: Cat and you know yellow Man and all the great
- 7:27Speaker 4: Jaman Yes, all the great uh DJs, and like KRS
- 7:32Speaker 4: one was very, very influential because you know when he
- 7:36Speaker 4: came out with the Bridges Over that had that whole
- 7:40Speaker 4: reggae you know five that was like a reggae song.
- 7:45Speaker 4: So so I always love music, but I never necessarily
- 7:50Speaker 4: wanted to be a rapper. Just love music. But you know,
- 7:55Speaker 4: when I was in the streets, as most young inner
- 7:59Speaker 4: city you are in the streets because they have no alternatives.
- 8:06Speaker 4: There's a systematic design for young inner city males, brown
- 8:11Speaker 4: and black to you know, go down the path of
- 8:14Speaker 4: destruction that leads to jail or incarceration. You know, music
- 8:19Speaker 4: saved my life. You know, I was listening to music
- 8:24Speaker 4: for therapy, for escape, you know, to stay inside and
- 8:30Speaker 4: and stay away from dodging bullets and shooting bullets. So
- 8:34Speaker 4: I would just you know, listen to music. And that's
- 8:37Speaker 4: when I really started to develop the notion that I
- 8:41Speaker 4: could actually contribute something to the art form of wrath.
- 8:45Speaker 2: So the first song on your debut album, so I
- 8:48Speaker 2: think the first time I heard you was on a
- 8:49Speaker 2: total remix. But then when when when I heard they're
- 8:53Speaker 2: America write that first bar at their America. Look at
- 8:57Speaker 2: what you made me? Young, black and crazy? Yeah, please
- 9:00Speaker 2: save me? Yeah the police saved me.
- 9:03Speaker 4: Part.
- 9:04Speaker 8: What was your vision? What did you right?
- 9:05Speaker 2: Because you were born in Belize and moved to Brooklyn,
- 9:09Speaker 2: So when you said America, please save me? What was
- 9:11Speaker 2: the vision there that it was something you wanted to
- 9:14Speaker 2: see change at that time?
- 9:15Speaker 8: Going on?
- 9:16Speaker 4: I came to the United States of America when I
- 9:20Speaker 4: was about eight years old, and I lived with my mom.
- 9:23Speaker 4: My mom was a you know, low, low income, working
- 9:28Speaker 4: class woman, and you know, she had to work so
- 9:32Speaker 4: hard that I was always by myself. You know, most
- 9:35Speaker 4: immigrants that come to the United States from Jamaica, from Haiti,
- 9:38Speaker 4: from Belize, they you know, do housekeeping and babysitting, and
- 9:43Speaker 4: so she spent all her time taking care of other
- 9:46Speaker 4: people's children, and I was on my own. And I
- 9:51Speaker 4: wouldn't say that I was a bad kid, you know
- 9:53Speaker 4: that That's how I got the name Sean because I
- 9:56Speaker 4: was dark, because I had to be dark, you know,
- 9:59Speaker 4: I was. I'm a lion, but I don't necessarily believe
- 10:03Speaker 4: in eating gazelles. You know, if you if you do
- 10:06Speaker 4: the history of mankind, there was a time in the
- 10:08Speaker 4: gardener eating where lions and gazelles and everybody were one.
- 10:13Speaker 4: And that's my mentality. You know, I don't I'm not
- 10:15Speaker 4: a predator, but I grew up with predators, and so
- 10:20Speaker 4: I wasn't going to be a gazelle. I was going
- 10:23Speaker 4: to be a lion. And if somebody was gonna get eaten,
- 10:26Speaker 4: it wasn't gonna be me. And so my mentality was
- 10:30Speaker 4: always there should be an alternative. This shouldn't be the
- 10:34Speaker 4: way that we live. You know, we should be able
- 10:36Speaker 4: to grow up and evolve and you know, have for
- 10:40Speaker 4: one ks and you know, you know, get married and
- 10:43Speaker 4: you know, get a mortgage, and you know, take vacations
- 10:46Speaker 4: and be the best versions of ourselves. But kids growing up,
- 10:51Speaker 4: you know, in my generation, and I'm sure in this generation,
- 10:55Speaker 4: that's not necessarily a reality. You know, the reality is
- 10:59Speaker 4: jail in early Gray. So I was crying out because
- 11:05Speaker 4: that's not who I wanted to be, and I wasn't
- 11:07Speaker 4: ashamed of that, you know. You know, I know your
- 11:10Speaker 4: theme song isnas That's one of my heroes. You know
- 11:13Speaker 4: him and people like Ray Kwan and Ghost Face and
- 11:17Speaker 4: Wu Tang, they had that same message like they were
- 11:21Speaker 4: talking about reality. It was their reality. But that doesn't
- 11:24Speaker 4: mean that's what we wanted to be. You know, we
- 11:27Speaker 4: don't necessarily want to sell the narcotics that you know,
- 11:33Speaker 4: certain agencies put into our communities to destroy our communities.
- 11:39Speaker 4: But we have no other choice because you know, we
- 11:41Speaker 4: feel that we're going to starve. You know, we can't
- 11:44Speaker 4: get jobs. They burned down our business. You know, remember
- 11:47Speaker 4: Black Wall Street. We can't get loans at the bank.
- 11:50Speaker 4: You know, there's so many obstacles to having a healthy,
- 11:54Speaker 4: normal life. So when I say saved me, you know
- 11:58Speaker 4: it was a true crime that you know, it could
- 12:01Speaker 4: be better and the legislators could make it better.
- 12:04Speaker 3: Let me let me ask you this as far as
- 12:07Speaker 3: you know.
- 12:07Speaker 5: Obviously the incident in the club and you get sentenced
- 12:10Speaker 5: to ten years in jail and Clinton Max. So that's
- 12:13Speaker 5: you and the belly of the Beast right talking about
- 12:16Speaker 5: overcoming adversity. Like to see you now to where you
- 12:19Speaker 5: were at that point in time, it's an amazing transformation mentally.
- 12:24Speaker 5: What was you going through during that ten year time
- 12:27Speaker 5: and being incarcerated, and how were you able to come
- 12:31Speaker 5: out and not only just keep your sanity, but to actually,
- 12:34Speaker 5: you know, move forward, change your life.
- 12:37Speaker 4: You know, the way the architect of the universe designs
- 12:42Speaker 4: human beings is to withstand anything. I think we're all indestructible.
- 12:47Speaker 4: Everybody in this audience has what I have inside of me,
- 12:52Speaker 4: and it's just a matter of finding it. And so
- 12:54Speaker 4: I went through different phases of my life's journey that
- 12:58Speaker 4: allowed me to develop the durability to withstand that ultimate pain.
- 13:03Speaker 4: Because I wouldn't wish incarceration on my worst enemy. It's
- 13:08Speaker 4: nothing worse other than being bedridden in the hospital. But
- 13:12Speaker 4: I come from a country Belize, you know where I
- 13:17Speaker 4: grew up in a house where we didn't even have
- 13:19Speaker 4: a toilet system. So that's how I grew up. So
- 13:24Speaker 4: to go from that to the United States was an improvement.
- 13:31Speaker 4: To go from Brooklyn, Flatbush Church Avenue, New Kirk, Little Haiti,
- 13:39Speaker 4: you know, the most dangerous, challenging places on planet Earth
- 13:48Speaker 4: to go from there and to escape incarceration and to
- 13:54Speaker 4: escape death. I was a superhero. You know that that
- 13:59Speaker 4: wasn't my my destiny. Uh So to have been able
- 14:03Speaker 4: to do that and to you know, get signed to
- 14:06Speaker 4: bad Boy. Uh to put out a number one rap
- 14:10Speaker 4: album and to overcome that prepared me for whatever I
- 14:16Speaker 4: would face in life, because it's not probable. Everybody wanted
- 14:20Speaker 4: to wrap back then. But we didn't have you know,
- 14:22Speaker 4: the Internet, we didn't have United Masters, We didn't have
- 14:25Speaker 4: all these platforms that would allow you know, unknown artists
- 14:30Speaker 4: to break through. So to go from a kid, you know,
- 14:33Speaker 4: in a single pair at home, mom is poor, you know,
- 14:37Speaker 4: nobody there to help UH to you know, I got
- 14:42Speaker 4: I think I got the biggest record deal for new
- 14:44Speaker 4: artists ever. You know, I came into the music industry
- 14:49Speaker 4: making history a million it's more than that. But but
- 14:56Speaker 4: I did that against all odds. I had no help,
- 15:00Speaker 4: you know, Like my friends used to tell me, you're
- 15:02Speaker 4: wasting your time. You know. My mom, you know, told me,
- 15:05Speaker 4: you know, son, like you know, why did you drop
- 15:08Speaker 4: out of university? Like she cried to me, like you're
- 15:10Speaker 4: breaking my heart. Like if you're not gonna make it
- 15:13Speaker 4: a music, nobody makes it a music.
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- 17:02Speaker 4: But I knew that I could make it in music,
- 17:05Speaker 4: and I made it. So you know, God is real,
- 17:10Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it, the architect of the universe,
- 17:13Speaker 4: intelligence designer, and there is a divine source that you know,
- 17:19Speaker 4: GUIDs everything on this planet. So if I did it once,
- 17:22Speaker 4: I could do it again. And you know, I think
- 17:25Speaker 4: it was harder to go from Brooklyn, you know, single mother,
- 17:30Speaker 4: you know, impoverished, household too, you know, millionaire rap star
- 17:38Speaker 4: signed to the biggest record label in the world. Like,
- 17:41Speaker 4: that's that's mission impossible. So to do that, that's it.
- 17:46Speaker 4: After that, there's nothing that I can't do. And I
- 17:49Speaker 4: thank God for that invincibility that I was gifted with. So,
- 17:54Speaker 4: you know, going to Clinton Denamora and going through the incarceration,
- 17:59Speaker 4: I rely on. You know, I'm I'm I'm not a
- 18:04Speaker 4: religious person, but my name is Moses. And you know Moses,
- 18:10Speaker 4: you know, you got the Five Books, whatever your religion is,
- 18:13Speaker 4: it's the Old Testament for Jews, you know, they call
- 18:16Speaker 4: it the Torah. You know. So one of the things
- 18:22Speaker 4: that I have always had was this gift of just
- 18:27Speaker 4: divine invincibility. I could do anything. And so once I
- 18:33Speaker 4: did it once and I understood the science, however, the
- 18:37Speaker 4: divine science work, I knew that I could apply that again.
- 18:40Speaker 4: And so in the in the Five Books of Moses,
- 18:45Speaker 4: there's a part that says when the Israelites, the Jews,
- 18:49Speaker 4: when they're going through the Red Sea, and they got
- 18:52Speaker 4: through the Red Sea and they're in the desert, they
- 18:56Speaker 4: say to God, you know what, man, we don't need
- 18:59Speaker 4: anything else, just the fact that you took us out
- 19:03Speaker 4: of Egypt. That's enough. You took us through the Red Sea,
- 19:06Speaker 4: that's enough. You gave us a fire by night to
- 19:10Speaker 4: keep us warm, and you know you let us through
- 19:13Speaker 4: all these scorpions and all these snakes. That's enough, they say, Diano.
- 19:18Speaker 4: So what God did for me? Going from Belize where
- 19:22Speaker 4: I didn't even have a toilet system and my mother
- 19:24Speaker 4: was a poor teacher. We came to the United States,
- 19:28Speaker 4: she was a housekeeper, then became a receptionist with a
- 19:31Speaker 4: little bit of nothing, and I was able to become
- 19:33Speaker 4: a multi millionaire, put our number one rap albums and
- 19:36Speaker 4: get nominated for Grammys. So like, what more could I
- 19:40Speaker 4: ask God for? So, you know, I wasn't entitled. I
- 19:44Speaker 4: didn't feel like I deserved anything. I got the hand
- 19:48Speaker 4: and I played the hand, and I played the hand
- 19:50Speaker 4: before and I was successful. So I just asked God
- 19:55Speaker 4: to continue to give me the wisdom and durability because
- 19:57Speaker 4: we're gonna have challenges. Everybody in this room, everybody on
- 20:00Speaker 4: this planet is going to have challenges. Alon Musk has challenges,
- 20:05Speaker 4: Jeff Bezos has challenges, Kanye West has challenges. You just
- 20:11Speaker 4: have to endure those challenges and figure out the science
- 20:14Speaker 4: to navigate your challenges. So you know, I thank God
- 20:16Speaker 4: for being able to figure that out.
- 20:18Speaker 2: I told you, yeah, clap it up with that. I
- 20:23Speaker 2: told you this backstage and I said, look like you
- 20:26Speaker 2: were my god. You've always been my god.
- 20:28Speaker 4: Thank you.
- 20:28Speaker 2: That's a fact, right, Like I remember twenty years ago
- 20:31Speaker 2: being in the mirror trying to rap like you.
- 20:33Speaker 8: Thank you, dressing up like you.
- 20:35Speaker 2: One of the things that over the course of time
- 20:37Speaker 2: is your level of integrity, right has never waivered. I
- 20:41Speaker 2: told you I still got the double xcel cover when
- 20:44Speaker 2: it was death before the Sauna and it still is
- 20:48Speaker 2: right and even Sean's the realist rapper alive.
- 20:51Speaker 7: And so you said mom wasn't around. I know your
- 20:54Speaker 7: dad wasn't. Believeze, Where did we get this moral ethic? Cold,
- 20:58Speaker 7: where we get this integrity from? Where was it built for?
- 21:01Speaker 4: You know? My grandmother, God bless her soul. I was
- 21:06Speaker 4: very close to her. She's a garridt from a woman
- 21:10Speaker 4: uh Africans that very resilient throughout Latin America. And yeah,
- 21:17Speaker 4: she she was very close to me and instilled a
- 21:20Speaker 4: lot of those integrity and ideas and you know, the
- 21:27Speaker 4: moral compassed that I had yeah, and you know, I
- 21:31Speaker 4: think I think you are who you are. I think
- 21:35Speaker 4: for me, it's not who I am, but how will
- 21:39Speaker 4: I use who I am to empower humanity? So it's
- 21:47Speaker 4: not about being great, but it's about how do you
- 21:50Speaker 4: use your greatness to make other people great? But to
- 21:53Speaker 4: impact the planet, not to impact your community, or your
- 21:57Speaker 4: state or your country. So I think, you know, certain
- 22:01Speaker 4: people are wired and designed to change the planet, to
- 22:06Speaker 4: change their country, to change their surroundings. And you know,
- 22:11Speaker 4: so that's how I was wired. I'm thankful that I
- 22:13Speaker 4: was able to find that.
- 22:15Speaker 9: You know.
- 22:16Speaker 4: Again, I encourage everyone to find their greatness is there,
- 22:20Speaker 4: it's inside of you. But you know, some of us
- 22:22Speaker 4: are afraid, some of us get distracted, but you could
- 22:27Speaker 4: find it.
- 22:28Speaker 5: So let me ask you this because I want to
- 22:30Speaker 5: jump into this crypto conversation. It's very rare that we
- 22:34Speaker 5: speak to politicians. But you're not only a politician, you're
- 22:37Speaker 5: a world leader. So your neighbor, yes, your Central American
- 22:42Speaker 5: navor El Salvador made news by buying seven hundred big
- 22:48Speaker 5: coins see bigcoin is a legal tender currency there and
- 22:53Speaker 5: they have a plan to finance a billion dollars of
- 22:58Speaker 5: infrastructure using bitcoin and cryptocurrency. So my first question is
- 23:03Speaker 5: what's your thoughts on that, and is that something that
- 23:07Speaker 5: your country or other countries in the region, all over
- 23:09Speaker 5: the world can duplicate to catch up to the superpowers.
- 23:15Speaker 4: You know, I'm a very bold and aggressive leader, so
- 23:19Speaker 4: certainly I would be prepared to examine the benefits of
- 23:25Speaker 4: you know, that path. You know, certainly to develop believes
- 23:29Speaker 4: you know, we have to have all options on the table,
- 23:31Speaker 4: so we'd have to look and see how that works
- 23:35Speaker 4: for Ol Salvador and you know, study how it's working
- 23:38Speaker 4: for other countries. But certainly I'm open to that. I
- 23:42Speaker 4: do believe that is that is the now, not just
- 23:44Speaker 4: the future. You know, it's what's smoothing the world.
- 23:47Speaker 2: So when you when you got released, right and you
- 23:50Speaker 2: were deported from the country, a country that you grew
- 23:53Speaker 2: up in. I mean obviously you're born in Belize but
- 23:55Speaker 2: raised in Brooklyn, and then you're deported, At what time
- 24:00Speaker 2: do you decide that you know what politics is going
- 24:03Speaker 2: to be my new passion. Politics is where I'm supposed
- 24:05Speaker 2: to be because I know your dad obviously was the
- 24:07Speaker 2: prime minister, and so when you're looking at him as
- 24:10Speaker 2: the guy that's like, you know what, I'm not following
- 24:12Speaker 2: my fat my dad's for sess, but that is an
- 24:14Speaker 2: avenue if I would like to explore. What was it
- 24:17Speaker 2: that triggered you to say, you know what, politics is
- 24:20Speaker 2: my route now?
- 24:22Speaker 4: No, no, you know, I always wanted to be Bob Marley.
- 24:25Speaker 4: I never wanted to be a politician. I always wanted
- 24:31Speaker 4: to be a prophet. I wanted to change the world,
- 24:34Speaker 4: you know. I wanted to bring light to the world
- 24:37Speaker 4: and just transform the world. And uh, but you know, politicians, legislators,
- 24:44Speaker 4: they have a special power. And you know, when I
- 24:48Speaker 4: visited Belize, there was a senator by the name of
- 24:53Speaker 4: Julia Timborough and I was living in Paris at the time,
- 24:58Speaker 4: and she said to me, she said, listen, our country
- 25:01Speaker 4: is going through a transition, and the leaders in this country,
- 25:06Speaker 4: at least for the most part, they only care about themselves.
- 25:10Speaker 4: They only want to enrich themselves and their families and
- 25:13Speaker 4: their cronies. And you you know, you're a multi millionaire,
- 25:20Speaker 4: your friends are billionaires. You're not going to be a
- 25:24Speaker 4: politician to get rich. You're not going to use the
- 25:28Speaker 4: taxpayers dollars, you know, to take care of your self interests.
- 25:36Speaker 4: You'd be the perfect type of leader. Like what are
- 25:38Speaker 4: you talking about? I'm I'm a musician, you know, I'm
- 25:41Speaker 4: an artists into the fine arts, my entrepreneur. You know,
- 25:45Speaker 4: I do some investments, not necessarily interested in politics, but leadership,
- 25:54Speaker 4: you know, leadership is important. And you know, there was
- 25:59Speaker 4: a void and there still is a void. And I'm
- 26:02Speaker 4: a leader. You know, I come from a family of leaders.
- 26:05Speaker 4: But I wasn't looking at my father because I surpassed
- 26:10Speaker 4: him in music, you know, Grammy nominations, forty million records,
- 26:16Speaker 4: sol written, you know, publisher, performer. So for me, it
- 26:21Speaker 4: was like politics was like down down there, like what
- 26:25Speaker 4: are we doing? Yeah, but that's politics. Leadership is up
- 26:31Speaker 4: here because leadership is my name. My name is Moses.
- 26:37Speaker 4: And Moses was a leader. And you know, Moses was
- 26:41Speaker 4: a shepherd. And Moses used to take the sheep that
- 26:46Speaker 4: you know, were hurt, and he would carry them on
- 26:49Speaker 4: his back and take them to get water. Right. So
- 26:54Speaker 4: I'm a leader. I'm not a politician. So I'm here
- 26:56Speaker 4: to lead my people. I'm here to transform their lives time.
- 27:00Speaker 4: I'm here to empower them. You know, when I hear
- 27:03Speaker 4: about financial literacy, I couldn't believe that there's a platform,
- 27:08Speaker 4: you know, trying to instill these virtues in our people.
- 27:14Speaker 4: So that's what got me into pursuing being a legislator,
- 27:20Speaker 4: you know, not to be a politician, but to fulfill
- 27:22Speaker 4: my purpose to be a leader and a world leader,
- 27:26Speaker 4: you know, because I have friends in Africa, I have
- 27:29Speaker 4: friends in the United States that are legislators, and what
- 27:32Speaker 4: I do in Belize people are watching, so I could
- 27:36Speaker 4: lead the world from Belize.
- 27:40Speaker 5: So recently Barbados, I've seen that you you had a
- 27:46Speaker 5: sport for Barbados, which they recently transitioned away from the
- 27:50Speaker 5: UK monarchy system right into their own constitutional republic. What
- 27:57Speaker 5: does that actually mean, because I'm not can show what
- 28:00Speaker 5: it actually means. And is that something that you know
- 28:04Speaker 5: other countries in the region can duplicate.
- 28:07Speaker 4: Well, let me just acknowledge all my Haitians here today, Haiti, Haiti, Haiti.
- 28:16Speaker 4: You know, I love Haiti. I love Haiti so much
- 28:19Speaker 4: because Haiti's the first black republic in the Caribbean. Haiti's
- 28:26Speaker 4: the first independent nation, the real true independent nation in
- 28:31Speaker 4: the Caribbean. Here Toussaint was the leader that led that
- 28:37Speaker 4: revolution and he defeated the French drove him out of Haiti,
- 28:42Speaker 4: and they became the first independent nation in the Caribbean.
- 28:46Speaker 4: And they've paid a hefty price for it. So God
- 28:49Speaker 4: bless Haiti, and you know, forever love and salute Haiti.
- 28:54Speaker 4: But all the other Caribbean nations never had that type
- 28:58Speaker 4: of courage that the Haitians had, and they saw how
- 29:02Speaker 4: the French, you know, the French made the Haitians pay
- 29:05Speaker 4: like two hundred billion or four hundred billion dollars for
- 29:10Speaker 4: their freedom. And right now we're in the midst of
- 29:14Speaker 4: taking the United Kingdom to court for reparations because as
- 29:19Speaker 4: we know in Belize, as we know, you know, the
- 29:23Speaker 4: trans Atlantic slave atrocity holocaust is one of the worst
- 29:32Speaker 4: things that have ever happened in humanity. And so you know,
- 29:37Speaker 4: the United Kingdom, you know, committed you know, the worst
- 29:42Speaker 4: crimes against humanity. So there's nothing glorious about the queen
- 29:48Speaker 4: as our head of state in any nation in the Caribbean,
- 29:53Speaker 4: that's our land. They extracted our wealth, they killed us,
- 30:00Speaker 4: they raped us, They you know, just castigated and castrated
- 30:08Speaker 4: our people, so that there's nothing glorious about it. And
- 30:11Speaker 4: you know, I want to acknowledge Prince Charles who said
- 30:15Speaker 4: everything that I'm saying right now. They invited him to
- 30:19Speaker 4: the ceremony for Barbados becoming a republic and he said,
- 30:23Speaker 4: you know, yeah, slavery is one of the stains of
- 30:27Speaker 4: our history and it was atrocious and he didn't need
- 30:30Speaker 4: to tell me that. And I hope that Belize will
- 30:33Speaker 4: follow in the footsteps of Barbados. I know Jamaica's taken
- 30:37Speaker 4: steps to do that, but removing the Queen is of
- 30:42Speaker 4: the head as the head of state is something that's
- 30:46Speaker 4: long overdue, and becoming a republic just means that, you know,
- 30:50Speaker 4: you're no longer you have no affiliation with the United
- 30:54Speaker 4: Kingdom and your former colonial masters.
- 30:58Speaker 5: So country is already an independent country, but they were
- 31:03Speaker 5: still kind of under.
- 31:05Speaker 4: The flag of real mafia, criminal organization type mentality that Okay,
- 31:13Speaker 4: I'll let you have the block, but you know, you
- 31:16Speaker 4: still got to check in with me. It's not democracy,
- 31:20Speaker 4: that's not freedom, that's not humanity. That shouldn't have happened
- 31:24Speaker 4: in the first place. You shouldn't have took us from
- 31:26Speaker 4: Africa in the first place. You owe us, We don't
- 31:30Speaker 4: owe you. We don't owe you any type of acknowledgment
- 31:33Speaker 4: of recognition right.
- 31:35Speaker 2: So yeah, speaking of democracy, I know that's something that
- 31:39Speaker 2: you obviously you fight for for your country.
- 31:41Speaker 4: So your role, yeah, say hello to all the Cubans too,
- 31:44Speaker 4: because I'm big on democracy in Cuba. It's very important. So, yeah,
- 31:48Speaker 4: you got to get rid of the dictatorships.
- 31:49Speaker 2: Your role was the leader of You were the thirteenth
- 31:52Speaker 2: leader of the opposition before.
- 31:54Speaker 4: I was fortunate to be elected the thirteenth opposition leader
- 31:58Speaker 4: of the House of Representatives.
- 32:00Speaker 2: And believe so for most people that are looking like
- 32:02Speaker 2: the thirteenth opposition leader, can you to tell, you.
- 32:06Speaker 4: Know, like the Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer for the
- 32:12Speaker 4: United States obviously for the Congress.
- 32:15Speaker 2: So in that role, what are you doing specifically, right,
- 32:18Speaker 2: because obviously you're the minority leader. What's getting past through
- 32:21Speaker 2: you are the things that you obviously can put implement.
- 32:24Speaker 8: What's the role that you played?
- 32:26Speaker 4: I'm leading U, you know everything.
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- 35:20Speaker 4: On my lap and you know I carry carry my
- 35:23Speaker 4: colleagues and support my colleagues and help them to be
- 35:26Speaker 4: the best versions of them themselves. And you know, follow
- 35:30Speaker 4: the vision that will uplift and empower our people and
- 35:34Speaker 4: fight for our people. You know, accountability is important. That
- 35:38Speaker 4: that's what democracy is. People have to have an alternative,
- 35:42Speaker 4: be able to say, you know what, I don't like
- 35:44Speaker 4: what the blue is doing, so I'm going to vote
- 35:48Speaker 4: the red. Or I don't like what the red is doing,
- 35:49Speaker 4: so I'm going to vote the blue. So you know,
- 35:52Speaker 4: while you're in opposition, you know, you fight to advance
- 35:57Speaker 4: the platforms that the people to make sure that what
- 35:59Speaker 4: the government that has been elected make sure that they're
- 36:04Speaker 4: doing what they promise the people.
- 36:06Speaker 5: Let me let me ask you this as far as reparations,
- 36:09Speaker 5: something that we really haven't talked too much about on
- 36:11Speaker 5: the platform. So you say your country, you're planning on
- 36:15Speaker 5: taking UK to court.
- 36:16Speaker 4: We just you know, there's a lawyer by the name
- 36:20Speaker 4: of Godfrey Smith. He is on the team of lawyers
- 36:28Speaker 4: for Jamaica that have taken the United Kingdom to court
- 36:33Speaker 4: for reparations. So, you know, when I was the leader
- 36:38Speaker 4: of the opposition, he approached me, he approached the Prime
- 36:41Speaker 4: Minister of Belieze and he said, listen, you know, we'd
- 36:45Speaker 4: like your support to pass the reparations motions in the
- 36:49Speaker 4: House to demand that you know, the UK pay what
- 36:54Speaker 4: they owe. Believe you know, they paid the slave owners
- 36:58Speaker 4: billions of dollars and they gave those who were stolen
- 37:03Speaker 4: and enslaved nothing. So he asked that, you know, we
- 37:08Speaker 4: passed the motion together bipartisan, and I agreed, and and
- 37:14Speaker 4: so now they're going to proceed with taking the United
- 37:18Speaker 4: Kingdom to court. So that is in motion. We've already
- 37:21Speaker 4: passed the motion in the House of Representatives in Belize
- 37:25Speaker 4: and now we're going to proceed with the litigation.
- 37:28Speaker 5: Is there a certain dollar amount or to be determined
- 37:31Speaker 5: that you're asking.
- 37:32Speaker 4: For, you know, I think Bob Johnson has it at
- 37:35Speaker 4: one point three trillion dollars in the United States and
- 37:41Speaker 4: the Caribbean, I think totally in Belize. You know, I'm
- 37:46Speaker 4: not sure. I think it'd probably be maybe fifty ye
- 37:50Speaker 4: maybe one hundred, one hundred million.
- 37:53Speaker 5: I think what's your what's your thoughts on reparations in America.
- 37:58Speaker 5: You know, if you listen to the Sean albums, Yeah,
- 38:00Speaker 5: I'm going there. That's how That's how it ended. The
- 38:03Speaker 5: intro reparations is due due.
- 38:07Speaker 4: It's due, grammatically incorrect, and y'all gonna pay. So I
- 38:12Speaker 4: said that as a nineteen year old child, so as
- 38:14Speaker 4: a forty three year old world leaders, it's long overdue.
- 38:17Speaker 4: And you know, I've spoken to my colleagues and the
- 38:20Speaker 4: House of Representatives here in America, Congressman Meeks and Senator
- 38:27Speaker 4: Chuck Schumer and Congressman Maxie Waters, and you know, so
- 38:32Speaker 4: I believe within the next six or twelve months you're
- 38:34Speaker 4: going to see legislation passed in the House and the Senate.
- 38:38Speaker 8: Nineteen year old shots.
- 38:39Speaker 4: You guys got to get out there and vote. You've
- 38:41Speaker 4: got midterms coming up. So you don't want you don't
- 38:44Speaker 4: want things to you don't want things to get worse.
- 38:48Speaker 4: You want to go back four years. I want to
- 38:51Speaker 4: get into your politics, but I'll vote, vote for the
- 38:54Speaker 4: people that are going to forward reparations. That's all I
- 38:57Speaker 4: gotta say.
- 38:58Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go back to the debut because then
- 39:01Speaker 2: we spoke about that line where you said, look, if
- 39:03Speaker 2: y'all build schools instead of prisons, I'm living.
- 39:08Speaker 4: He said, it takes me a craft or a trade.
- 39:14Speaker 8: Maybe don't. Maybe I'll go off for balls.
- 39:15Speaker 7: Don't.
- 39:15Speaker 4: Maybe get up here and start that.
- 39:19Speaker 8: NAT.
- 39:23Speaker 2: But you so you said that at nineteen and obviously
- 39:25Speaker 2: you were talking about where your conditions in Brooklyn. But
- 39:29Speaker 2: now listening to that line and knowing what you're seeing
- 39:32Speaker 2: in Belize as a forty year old leader, can you
- 39:36Speaker 2: talk about the progression or lack thereof for that same
- 39:39Speaker 2: environment that you were talking about.
- 39:41Speaker 4: Then, you know, believee is different from the United States,
- 39:44Speaker 4: whereas we're developing nation and it's sad that even a
- 39:49Speaker 4: developed nation had those issues. So imagine what we're going through.
- 39:53Speaker 4: I'd like to acknowledge my my little brother, Stephen Victor,
- 39:58Speaker 4: who's a vice president of Universal Music Group, who just
- 40:03Speaker 4: donated one hundred thousand dollars to Belize for education. He
- 40:09Speaker 4: has a Steven Victor Education Fund. So that's a big
- 40:13Speaker 4: problem in Belize due to financing. You know, the legislators
- 40:21Speaker 4: would prefer to spend money on fixing roads, which we
- 40:25Speaker 4: do need. We need infrastructure, we need streets, we need roads.
- 40:30Speaker 4: But before we get to roads and streets that we
- 40:34Speaker 4: can navigate. We need children who are educated, because children
- 40:40Speaker 4: who are educated, we'll be in a position to create
- 40:44Speaker 4: wealth that can pay for those roads and streets. So
- 40:48Speaker 4: it's a matter of priority. If you have a dollar,
- 40:51Speaker 4: you know you spend that on food that can feed
- 40:54Speaker 4: your family and not on getting a drink at the bar.
- 40:58Speaker 4: So you know, the government now has in my view,
- 41:03Speaker 4: not prioritizing government's past. You know, they borrowed money. There's
- 41:08Speaker 4: nothing wrong with borrowing money, but they've spent billions of
- 41:11Speaker 4: dollars on things that can generate wealth for them and
- 41:15Speaker 4: their families, whereas we should have invested in education and healthcare,
- 41:22Speaker 4: making sure that you know, our people are healthy and
- 41:26Speaker 4: educated and our country will develop. So certainly, as a leader,
- 41:31Speaker 4: those are my priorities, education and health.
- 41:35Speaker 5: So how do you feel about government regulation as far
- 41:38Speaker 5: as the business, because I feel like we live in
- 41:43Speaker 5: New York, right, so they have done a tremendous job
- 41:49Speaker 5: to make business hard for entrepreneurs, and this is why
- 41:54Speaker 5: a lot of people are leaving New York. And I
- 41:57Speaker 5: feel like too much from an involvement in a private sector,
- 42:04Speaker 5: it's problematic. What do you this is a business platform.
- 42:08Speaker 5: We champion business. What do you feel about that? As
- 42:12Speaker 5: far as government, what do you think government's involvement should
- 42:15Speaker 5: be in a private sector.
- 42:17Speaker 4: I believe in balance. I believe in balance. I certainly
- 42:22Speaker 4: don't believe in over regulation. But I don't believe that
- 42:27Speaker 4: we should deregulate to a point where the biggest corporations
- 42:34Speaker 4: don't help to solve the social issues that we have. Right,
- 42:42Speaker 4: somebody has to pay for education, somebody has to pay
- 42:47Speaker 4: for healthcare. It shouldn't be the hard working people like
- 42:50Speaker 4: my mom that was making a certain amount of money
- 42:54Speaker 4: that we you know, insignificant. So I don't believe in
- 43:00Speaker 4: over regulating the business community. I believe in finding ways
- 43:06Speaker 4: to help the business community, not finding ways to stop
- 43:11Speaker 4: the business community or to you know, have a bureaucratic quagmire.
- 43:18Speaker 4: But to make sure the flow of business is fluent.
- 43:22Speaker 4: Let's get it done. But I do agree with the
- 43:26Speaker 4: current president of the United States that you know, you
- 43:32Speaker 4: got to be good corporate citizens, and you know, those
- 43:36Speaker 4: people that are making the most money need to pay
- 43:39Speaker 4: for that. Young shine that doesn't want to be a
- 43:42Speaker 4: gang banger, doesn't want to be a dope dealer, wants
- 43:47Speaker 4: to go to school, you know, wants to live a
- 43:50Speaker 4: productive life. Who's going to pay for him or her
- 43:54Speaker 4: to go to school. Somebody has to pay for that,
- 43:58Speaker 4: and it shouldn't be the people that are making, you know,
- 44:01Speaker 4: just enough to get by. So that's my only issue
- 44:06Speaker 4: with the business community. I believe that they should not
- 44:10Speaker 4: be over regulated. Government should have a passion and a
- 44:16Speaker 4: desire to make business easy to do anywhere.
- 44:22Speaker 2: So obviously you were the thirteenth leader of the opposite
- 44:27Speaker 2: is the goal to eventually be prime minister of the country.
- 44:31Speaker 2: Is that where we're headed in terms of leadership or
- 44:34Speaker 2: are we gonna you know, we're saying where we're at,
- 44:36Speaker 2: we like where you're at now, or you want to
- 44:37Speaker 2: have the ultimate leadership?
- 44:38Speaker 4: And you know, I had this conversation with my friend
- 44:43Speaker 4: when I was Washington, d C. And you know, she
- 44:48Speaker 4: was telling me about bureaucracy, and I said, you know,
- 44:53Speaker 4: I'm hip hop. I don't do bureaucracy. I could do anything, like,
- 44:59Speaker 4: there's no no in hip hop. We can do anything
- 45:02Speaker 4: like look, you know, happy birthday to my good friend
- 45:05Speaker 4: Sean Carter.
- 45:06Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, heavy birthday to you know.
- 45:10Speaker 4: Who went from a Mossie Kid, you know, to creating
- 45:16Speaker 4: not just himself as a billionaire, but two other billionaires
- 45:20Speaker 4: and Kanye and Rihanna. That's hip hop, like we do anything.
- 45:26Speaker 4: So for me, you know, being the Prime Minister is
- 45:29Speaker 4: not if, but when. And it's not about being the
- 45:33Speaker 4: Prime Minister to have a title as to the Prime Minister,
- 45:38Speaker 4: because I was I'm already a Grammy Award winning writer, publisher, producer.
- 45:45Speaker 4: I'm not into titles. It's what comes with being the
- 45:51Speaker 4: Prime Minister of beliefs and the change that I could make,
- 45:55Speaker 4: the revolutionary change that I could make two a make
- 46:00Speaker 4: up for the hundreds of years of slavery and the
- 46:05Speaker 4: hundreds of years of my people not being taught to
- 46:08Speaker 4: be entrepreneurs, not being taught to be landowners, not being
- 46:13Speaker 4: taught to have families because the slave owners used to
- 46:16Speaker 4: come and rape o women and you know have all
- 46:19Speaker 4: of our wives as their sweethearts. So that's all we
- 46:22Speaker 4: know how to do. That's where pimp culture comes from, right,
- 46:25Speaker 4: So as Prime Minister, I can you know, reverse all
- 46:30Speaker 4: the damage of you know, our people being enslaved and
- 46:34Speaker 4: set my people to be the next Shines, the next
- 46:37Speaker 4: jay Z's, the next whatever they want to be, because
- 46:40Speaker 4: I don't want to get rich to be a politician.
- 46:43Speaker 4: I don't want to say, oh, I'm the Prime Minister
- 46:45Speaker 4: of Belieze. I'm good. I want to say that this
- 46:49Speaker 4: is what I did for believes. I created a bunch
- 46:51Speaker 4: of entrepreneurs. I created people who are financially literate. I
- 46:56Speaker 4: created you know, great family men and women. I created
- 46:59Speaker 4: healthy boys and girls. I want to be able to
- 47:02Speaker 4: brag about that the next.
- 47:04Speaker 5: Forty years, sounding very presidential.
- 47:09Speaker 3: He's good, he's good.
- 47:10Speaker 4: So who's the other politician you want to interview?
- 47:14Speaker 5: Well, we can't turn down Obama can't turn down. So
- 47:18Speaker 5: let me ask you this conflict resolution is something that
- 47:22Speaker 5: we struggle with a lot in our community, mending differences.
- 47:27Speaker 3: So you and Diddy on good terms? Wasn't always on
- 47:31Speaker 3: good terms?
- 47:33Speaker 4: Did?
- 47:33Speaker 3: How did you and Diddy mend that relationship?
- 47:37Speaker 5: And what made you actually want to say, Okay, this
- 47:40Speaker 5: is a relationship that's actually worth mending.
- 47:43Speaker 4: You know, I think it is African American men in particular.
- 47:48Speaker 4: You know, Latinos super as African American men. We have
- 47:53Speaker 4: been conditioned since the plantation to hate each other and
- 47:58Speaker 4: to destroy each other. And you know, part of my evolution,
- 48:04Speaker 4: part of my healing. I can't carry twenty four years
- 48:08Speaker 4: of pain and hurt with me. I wouldn't be here
- 48:11Speaker 4: right now if I was holding on to that. That's baggage.
- 48:14Speaker 4: I got to shake that, and I gotta keep going.
- 48:18Speaker 4: And you know, Diddy's my brother. He was my brother,
- 48:24Speaker 4: He is my brother. Now you're my brother, all of you.
- 48:27Speaker 4: You're my brothers and sisters. I don't even know y'all.
- 48:30Speaker 4: And Diddy, you know, gave me an opportunity that changed
- 48:33Speaker 4: my life forever. And so I prefer to look at
- 48:36Speaker 4: the positive in my brother because we've been conditioned to
- 48:40Speaker 4: hate our brothers and sisters for so long that I
- 48:44Speaker 4: want to condition myself and us to love. Let's find
- 48:48Speaker 4: the good in our brothers and sisters. Yeah I could.
- 48:50Speaker 4: I could find a million things wrong with Ditty. I
- 48:54Speaker 4: want to find the things that's right with him. And
- 48:56Speaker 4: so I focused on the positivity, and I focused on myself.
- 49:00Speaker 4: You know, I like to acknowledge my other little brother
- 49:04Speaker 4: of Stephen Carlos, that the president you call him Steve,
- 49:08Speaker 4: I called him Stephen Carlos, that he's the president of
- 49:13Speaker 4: you know, President Warner Music. My other protege. You know,
- 49:18Speaker 4: we're working on a documentary, a movie, TV series about
- 49:22Speaker 4: my life, and you know, different studios have approached me
- 49:26Speaker 4: put money on the table, but they want to tell
- 49:29Speaker 4: the Shine Hates Ditty story, and I say, you know,
- 49:34Speaker 4: keep your money. I'm not interested in that. I'm not
- 49:37Speaker 4: interested in that because it can't be wrong when you know,
- 49:44Speaker 4: the Caucasian nails on George Floyd's neck and takes his life.
- 49:52Speaker 4: But when we kill each other, it's okay. You know,
- 49:56Speaker 4: when when somebody that looks like young Dolf kill it
- 50:00Speaker 4: was young Dolf, that's not okay. It's not okay for
- 50:04Speaker 4: us to hate each other, you know. So that that's
- 50:09Speaker 4: really what drove the healing process with Diddy and I.
- 50:14Speaker 4: And again, I'm just focused on myself. I'm not focused
- 50:18Speaker 4: on other people. I don't have time for that. There's
- 50:21Speaker 4: like a nation that's relying on my success in order
- 50:26Speaker 4: for us to all be successful in that country. And
- 50:29Speaker 4: I think, just as a world leader, that's a great
- 50:32Speaker 4: example to set for other African Americans who are still
- 50:36Speaker 4: caught up in a culture, a plantation culture, you know,
- 50:40Speaker 4: a Reagan Bush era culture where we destroy each other.
- 50:46Speaker 4: And I'm not about that. So you know, I Texteddy
- 50:48Speaker 4: as soon as I got here. I'll see him tomorrow.
- 50:52Speaker 4: We'll celebrate life, will celebrate black excellence, you know. And
- 50:56Speaker 4: that's what we should do. We should celebrate each other,
- 50:58Speaker 4: we should forgive each other. We should here and focus
- 51:01Speaker 4: on the way forward.
- 51:02Speaker 3: Clap it, clap it up.
- 51:03Speaker 8: For that, I want to thank you and hold on.
- 51:07Speaker 4: We didn't talk about the art. We can't.
- 51:11Speaker 8: I personally thank you.
- 51:12Speaker 4: We got to talk about this. All we gotta on
- 51:15Speaker 4: the table, we got.
- 51:15Speaker 8: To bring I wanted to thank you for that reconciliation.
- 51:19Speaker 2: Okay, because May twentieth, twenty sixteen, Bad Boy was having
- 51:24Speaker 2: his twentieth year anniversary concert for Shot It Out.
- 51:27Speaker 7: Were there and we've both seen it ourselves. Man, this
- 51:30Speaker 7: ain't gonna be right or shine ain't there and low
- 51:33Speaker 7: and behold, screen went dark and there you go in
- 51:36Speaker 7: front of a pyramid on the screen that.
- 51:38Speaker 2: Said that's it, that's hip hop. So I want to
- 51:41Speaker 2: person thank you for that.
- 51:42Speaker 4: And also, you know what I said was generalized, but
- 51:49Speaker 4: you know Diddy has been supporting me morally even financially. Yes,
- 51:57Speaker 4: this is a great picture from an artist called Alex Sanker.
- 52:00Speaker 4: You know, it's art Basel, so I had to bring
- 52:03Speaker 4: the belize in paintings with me. He's one of our
- 52:06Speaker 4: best artists. This is you know, downtown. This is on
- 52:10Speaker 4: south side the Belize called Ebu Town. This is where
- 52:13Speaker 4: all the Africans from Nigeria were and the south side
- 52:18Speaker 4: is where all the Africans really started. That's where Belize
- 52:20Speaker 4: started and that's where they stayed. The Creoles, which are
- 52:24Speaker 4: the Africans that mix with the Europeans, went to the
- 52:26Speaker 4: north side, but you know, the the one hundred percent
- 52:30Speaker 4: Africans stayed here. And so this is Albert Street. This
- 52:34Speaker 4: is the British the British on mailbox. That's a law firm.
- 52:39Speaker 4: Barron Williams, one of the best in the country. Yeah
- 52:42Speaker 4: so yeah, so back today. He was supporting me for
- 52:46Speaker 4: for many years now, you know, not like yo, you
- 52:51Speaker 4: owe me, but just listen. I have a vision for Belieze.
- 52:58Speaker 4: I want to change believe I'm running for the House
- 53:01Speaker 4: of Representatives. You know, I need your support. And it
- 53:05Speaker 4: wasn't even a conversation. It was like, oh man, this
- 53:07Speaker 4: is black excellence, like you know, just let me know
- 53:09Speaker 4: what you want me to do. And so he's been
- 53:12Speaker 4: doing that in however, he could do that for years,
- 53:16Speaker 4: and recently the government tried to I won't say the
- 53:23Speaker 4: government rogue actors in the government attempted to pass legislation
- 53:30Speaker 4: to disqualify me from the House of Representatives because of
- 53:34Speaker 4: what happened when I was nineteen years old, when I
- 53:37Speaker 4: was convicted of defending myself and my friends. And so,
- 53:42Speaker 4: you know, I reached out to Diddy and said, listen,
- 53:45Speaker 4: you know, we got to start a campaign with this,
- 53:49Speaker 4: and we have to create awareness because you know, this
- 53:53Speaker 4: is an attack on the lower class. This is attack on
- 53:56Speaker 4: all those young kids that are impoverished, that can't afford
- 53:59Speaker 4: a lawyer, can't afford to get themselves, you know, through
- 54:02Speaker 4: the justice system. And you know did he was there,
- 54:05Speaker 4: you know, we got revoked, got you know, the publicists
- 54:09Speaker 4: and said listen, let's bring attention to this. And you know,
- 54:13Speaker 4: when it was time for me to travel to the
- 54:15Speaker 4: United States, he made sure that whatever congressman, whatever senators
- 54:21Speaker 4: he had at his disposal, he made available to me
- 54:25Speaker 4: so that I could further the cause of beliefs. So
- 54:29Speaker 4: those are the conversations that we were having. You know,
- 54:31Speaker 4: we weren't having Oh you know what if I didn't,
- 54:35Speaker 4: you know, keep my mouth shut. You done went to jail.
- 54:38Speaker 4: You're worth a billion dollars now, you know I need
- 54:40Speaker 4: ten percent, you know. So we weren't having those conversations.
- 54:46Speaker 4: We were having it because you know that that's about me,
- 54:50Speaker 4: and it's not about me. It's about beliefs, and so
- 54:54Speaker 4: support believes, don't support me. And he's been very willing
- 54:59Speaker 4: to support my efforts to lift up my nation. So
- 55:02Speaker 4: I have to give him what credit for that?
- 55:04Speaker 8: Yeah, what was the feeling like being able to come
- 55:07Speaker 8: back to the United States?
- 55:08Speaker 2: Clip it up with that, Yeah, for sure. I mean
- 55:12Speaker 2: being goes is gone so long. What was the feeling
- 55:14Speaker 2: being back in America for the first time?
- 55:17Speaker 4: You know, it's never about being back in America, and
- 55:21Speaker 4: it's always about believes. So I wasn't here on vacation.
- 55:28Speaker 4: I wasn't here to go down memory lane. I was
- 55:30Speaker 4: here to talk to Maxine Waters. I was here to
- 55:32Speaker 4: talk to Congressman Gregory Meeks and Senator Schumer and you know, Congressman,
- 55:38Speaker 4: that's been a lot, and all the different senators and
- 55:41Speaker 4: congressmen that received me so graciously. Mayor Eric Adams, who
- 55:47Speaker 4: says that he's going to make sure the business community
- 55:52Speaker 4: is taken care of in New York City. That's what
- 55:54Speaker 4: he said, all right. He said he's tied all the
- 55:56Speaker 4: money coming to Miami in Florida. Hopefully he's gonna bring
- 55:59Speaker 4: it back.
- 56:00Speaker 3: So hoping.
- 56:01Speaker 4: My guy Brian Benjamin, he's he's a lieutenant governor.
- 56:05Speaker 5: Okay, he's pro business. Hopefully they can lower taxes too. Yeah,
- 56:09Speaker 5: I gotta say hello.
- 56:10Speaker 4: To my to Mika Mallory, she's he's here too, in
- 56:14Speaker 4: my son. Yeah.
- 56:17Speaker 5: So but Sean, let me ask you this general Momar
- 56:21Speaker 5: Kadaffi had had a vision for the African Union to
- 56:25Speaker 5: have a unified African dollar similar to the Euro. Uh
- 56:30Speaker 5: didn't work out. Everybody knows what happened shortly after that.
- 56:36Speaker 5: I say that to say, Central America, the Caribbean is
- 56:41Speaker 5: any Is there any hope that one day it could
- 56:45Speaker 5: be a more unified front similar to the EU, with
- 56:51Speaker 5: you know, maybe one currency for a block of countries
- 56:54Speaker 5: or you know, something similar to that.
- 56:58Speaker 4: You know, right now we have characters. We're all the
- 57:01Speaker 4: Caribbean nations all together, Barbados, Jamaica, Bahamas. Forgive me for
- 57:08Speaker 4: any any Saint Vincent, the Grenadines. But certainly. That's that's
- 57:15Speaker 4: that's that's practical as possible because we have character. As
- 57:18Speaker 4: I said, Belize is a very unique nation and the
- 57:23Speaker 4: fact that we're part of Central America and the Caribbean nations.
- 57:27Speaker 4: But you know, right now, my focus is in uh
- 57:32Speaker 4: directing Believee to a path of first world nation, developed nation,
- 57:38Speaker 4: and I think all my energy is there. I can't
- 57:40Speaker 4: get ahead of myself. I don't know that discussion is
- 57:46Speaker 4: not being it's not being had right now as far
- 57:49Speaker 4: as one currency. And my focus right now is making
- 57:52Speaker 4: sure that Belize is the best version of herself. And
- 57:56Speaker 4: we're far from there because the last forty years we've
- 57:59Speaker 4: had leaders who have used Belize as a vehicle for
- 58:04Speaker 4: self and Richmond. So there's a lot of work that
- 58:06Speaker 4: needs to be done.
- 58:09Speaker 5: When we travel over the world. In Jamaica, we see
- 58:13Speaker 5: heavy Chinese influence. Nigeria, I was shocked to find out
- 58:20Speaker 5: that twenty five percent of all hospitality is Lebanese. You
- 58:25Speaker 5: go to every club, The Lebanese own every club in
- 58:28Speaker 5: Nigeria and legos. I say that to say there's international
- 58:32Speaker 5: investments in all over the world, but especially in black countries,
- 58:37Speaker 5: countries of color what's your thoughts on that for beliefe
- 58:41Speaker 5: And how do you feel about foreign investment? And on
- 58:48Speaker 5: the flip side, a country like Ghana has welcomed African Americans.
- 58:53Speaker 5: It has really helped their economy, has helped their tourism.
- 58:56Speaker 5: Is that something that you want for believes.
- 58:59Speaker 4: Certainly we welcome foreign investment. Uh. We support Taiwan because
- 59:07Speaker 4: you know, Belize has a The Guatemalans claim Belize in
- 59:13Speaker 4: some you know, colonial far fetched entitlement they felt because
- 59:22Speaker 4: you know, Spain, whatever Spain surveyed and said was theirs
- 59:26Speaker 4: was theirs. So Spain said Belize and entire Latin America
- 59:31Speaker 4: was there, so it belonged to them, and so they
- 59:35Speaker 4: believe that they inherited that colonial right. So they're claiming Belize.
- 59:40Speaker 4: So I said, all letters say that Taiwan, you know,
- 59:42Speaker 4: has the same thing with China where they broke away
- 59:45Speaker 4: from China, and you know China, Taiwan believes they're they're
- 59:49Speaker 4: the Republic of China, and then you have China China
- 59:52Speaker 4: that says they're China. So we support Taiwan, and China
- 59:55Speaker 4: doesn't do business with people who have diplomatic relations with
- 59:59Speaker 4: thai Taiwan so I wouldn't be as Prime minister. I
- 1:00:03Speaker 4: wouldn't be interested in breaking relations with Taiwan to establish
- 1:00:09Speaker 4: relations with China for economic benefit, you know, because China
- 1:00:14Speaker 4: has a terrible human rights record and I don't believe
- 1:00:19Speaker 4: in diplomatic prostitution. You know. You talked about my integrity,
- 1:00:23Speaker 4: my character, and my honor, and I've had that my
- 1:00:27Speaker 4: entire life, so I shouldn't. I certainly wouldn't do that
- 1:00:29Speaker 4: as as Prime minister. I want to be in business
- 1:00:32Speaker 4: with the right people, and all money is in good money,
- 1:00:36Speaker 4: so you know, I wouldn't. I don't want to put
- 1:00:41Speaker 4: any roadblocks to anybody, but I'm not prepared to sell
- 1:00:45Speaker 4: my soul or sell the soul of Belize to be
- 1:00:48Speaker 4: in business with anyone.
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the major economic engines, especially that one
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: of the major economic engines in the Caribbean is tourism. Right,
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: but most people never you never hear people saying we're
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: going to Belieze. How do we get people more interested,
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: more involved, wanting to come so that when you get
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: that economic engine flowing through the country.
- 1:01:08Speaker 8: Now you have money for interest uts, you have money
- 1:01:10Speaker 8: for schools.
- 1:01:10Speaker 7: How do we get more awitness on Belieze outside of
- 1:01:13Speaker 7: you speaking.
- 1:01:14Speaker 4: Well, you know you can go. There's an Instagram page
- 1:01:16Speaker 4: called visit Belize, now Facebook called visit Belize. Uh. Now,
- 1:01:23Speaker 4: there's a Belize tourism board. Uh. You know, there's so
- 1:01:27Speaker 4: many direct flights to Belieze. There's a two hour flight
- 1:01:30Speaker 4: from here to Belieze on American You know, Belieze, it's paradise.
- 1:01:35Speaker 4: Uh So really I invite all of you to be
- 1:01:37Speaker 4: my guests, and believe I'm a very down to earth guy,
- 1:01:41Speaker 4: so youll see me walking around and slippings probably and
- 1:01:44Speaker 4: just come to Belize, you know, believe it is paradise.
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: So I told you guys to come do through the
- 1:01:49Speaker 4: podcast definitely, and.
- 1:01:51Speaker 7: We're bringing everybody in breaking news alert so everybody, I
- 1:01:58Speaker 7: gotta I gotta shot.
- 1:02:00Speaker 4: Got a group coming down I think for New Years
- 1:02:04Speaker 4: from d C, like a group of thirty, you know,
- 1:02:07Speaker 4: professionals in the urban community in d C. So you
- 1:02:12Speaker 4: know that's what I'll keep doing, you know, because tourism
- 1:02:15Speaker 4: drives our economy. So I'll keep going around the United States,
- 1:02:18Speaker 4: keep inviting my friends. You know, I invite Diddy, I
- 1:02:21Speaker 4: invite Fat Joe, I invite cal It, I invite everybody.
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: And you know, over the next twelve months, you're gonna
- 1:02:27Speaker 4: see a lot of activity happening in Belieze.
- 1:02:31Speaker 5: So get you take suh, you're a gentleman in a
- 1:02:35Speaker 5: scolar my brother.
- 1:02:36Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. Oh, thank you for enduring
- 1:02:40Speaker 4: my long winded.
- 1:02:42Speaker 5: Respond This is this is like I said, this is
- 1:02:44Speaker 5: the first conversation that we had with a politician and
- 1:02:48Speaker 5: I enjoyed it.
- 1:02:49Speaker 4: So we got a hold on. So we got to
- 1:02:50Speaker 4: talk about these pieces. Right. So so this is a
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: an artist by the name of Penn Kayatano. He's a
- 1:02:59Speaker 4: grif African artist. Is the guy that got my phone?
- 1:03:03Speaker 4: Does he is where? I don't anyway? Make sure the
- 1:03:06Speaker 4: mail getting these pictures? Man, No, no, no, but I
- 1:03:09Speaker 4: want you to get the pictures. Yeah. So yeah, so
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: this is Penkayatano. These are garyful of people African people
- 1:03:19Speaker 4: who have faced great persecution. And you know he has
- 1:03:23Speaker 4: another piece over here. So that's a garaful of drummer.
- 1:03:28Speaker 4: You know, drumming it's our thing.
- 1:03:31Speaker 8: Uh.
- 1:03:31Speaker 4: They're from dan Griga. So if you ever go to believee,
- 1:03:33Speaker 4: visit Dan grigor. This is a Garifuna woman. She's feelings.
- 1:03:39Speaker 4: I don't know any of you Caribbean people know about Cassava.
- 1:03:43Speaker 4: And this is from Cayatano as well. Yeah, and this
- 1:03:47Speaker 4: is a this is a young young artist by the
- 1:03:51Speaker 4: name of Janelli. So this is Placentia. This is in
- 1:03:54Speaker 4: the south as well. And this is a This is
- 1:03:58Speaker 4: right there at the port where the fishermen going catch
- 1:04:00Speaker 4: their fish. Where's the other one from the big one
- 1:04:02Speaker 4: that they brought out? Can they bring that back out again?
- 1:04:04Speaker 4: From Alex Sanka.
- 1:04:06Speaker 3: Shout out to Elliott Elliott Wilson.
- 1:04:08Speaker 8: Yeah, that's great.
- 1:04:09Speaker 4: Elliott Wilson shout We just cover the goat and goat
- 1:04:15Speaker 4: yeah yeah, so yeah, so yeah, we couldn't be at
- 1:04:22Speaker 4: our bosl and now show the beliefs and artists. So
- 1:04:24Speaker 4: we got you know, I collect art. I'm not like
- 1:04:28Speaker 4: like Jay and and Swiss and Yay and and all
- 1:04:34Speaker 4: those guys, but I collect believes in art. My house
- 1:04:37Speaker 4: is filled with art.
- 1:04:38Speaker 5: So yeah, now I appreciate your passion for your country
- 1:04:42Speaker 5: because that's something that you said this morning, like, no,
- 1:04:44Speaker 5: it's not about me, it's about believes. And absolutely want
- 1:04:46Speaker 5: to highlight the beliefs and artists and give them an
- 1:04:50Speaker 5: opportunity to shine during our bos or if we're going
- 1:04:52Speaker 5: to have a stage and a platform to speak, you know,
- 1:04:55Speaker 5: I think it would be a good idea to highlight
- 1:04:57Speaker 5: some of the local artists. So yeah, yes, he's taking
- 1:05:01Speaker 5: all the right steps. I see, I see a bright future.
- 1:05:06Speaker 8: I actually see us in beliefs. I see us in beliefs.
- 1:05:09Speaker 5: Yes, it has we're bringing that pain back. Yeah, we're
- 1:05:14Speaker 5: gonna make it. And you know, in the financial literacy,
- 1:05:17Speaker 5: it's so much. You know, I applaud you for that.
- 1:05:20Speaker 5: I applaud you for that. It's so important to our culture.
- 1:05:23Speaker 4: You know, before you buy a Richard mill, before you
- 1:05:28Speaker 4: buy protectively by some real estate, you know, you know,
- 1:05:31Speaker 4: buy things that appreciate. Uh, you know, make sure that
- 1:05:35Speaker 4: you invest in security and our people need that, you know.
- 1:05:39Speaker 4: So what you're what you're providing for our people is
- 1:05:43Speaker 4: it's so necessary and invaluable and and it survived, so
- 1:05:47Speaker 4: it's not it's not boring, you know, it's not you know,
- 1:05:51Speaker 4: broccoli stressed up nice and you know, and.
- 1:05:55Speaker 5: It's important before we leave that we always got to
- 1:05:58Speaker 5: have these conversations because when we went to Jamaica, we
- 1:06:01Speaker 5: had to tap in with Usain Bolt and all the
- 1:06:03Speaker 5: guys in Jamaica and then you know, we just went
- 1:06:05Speaker 5: to Nigeria, we went to Egypt. So it's important for
- 1:06:08Speaker 5: us to not just focus on America. The world is
- 1:06:13Speaker 5: big and there's opportunities all over the world, and we
- 1:06:17Speaker 5: need to tap in, especially people that look like us
- 1:06:20Speaker 5: from all over the world, because ultimately it's divide and
- 1:06:24Speaker 5: conquer and the more way united, uh, the stronger we are.
- 1:06:30Speaker 5: And the key to unity is education. People have a
- 1:06:33Speaker 5: lack of education, which leaves them ignorant. So having conversations
- 1:06:37Speaker 5: with diplomats, politicians, statesmen from different parts of the world
- 1:06:43Speaker 5: is not something to be taken lightly because it's actually
- 1:06:46Speaker 5: opening doors to the minds of something that can actually
- 1:06:50Speaker 5: help potentially change the world. So thank you, brother, I
- 1:06:54Speaker 5: appreciate it.
- 1:06:55Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, Thank you.
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