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- 0:00Speaker 1: The Mark Simonia on wor.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Well. The death of Lindsey Graham big surprise for everyone,
- 0:08Speaker 2: the President, President Trump. Lindsey Graham was supposed to be
- 0:13Speaker 2: on Meet the Press Sunday. He died Saturday night, so
- 0:15Speaker 2: President Trump agreed to call in and replace him as
- 0:19Speaker 2: the guest, the opening guests for the first ten minutes
- 0:21Speaker 2: on Meet the Press, and then since then, he's done
- 0:24Speaker 2: a lot of shows. President Trump even agreed to do
- 0:28Speaker 2: CNN it will go on with Jake Tapper. He said,
- 0:32Speaker 2: we'd like to CNN get on a more normal path,
- 0:36Speaker 2: straighten itself out. He's actually talked to a lot of
- 0:41Speaker 2: TV shows. Who does he want to replace Lindsey Graham?
- 0:45Speaker 2: Now here's the way it works. In South Carolina. The
- 0:47Speaker 2: governor appoints a replacement that will fill out the term
- 0:51Speaker 2: serve till January. Then in November they'll have a special
- 0:56Speaker 2: election for the permanent replacement. But the governor of South Carolina,
- 1:01Speaker 2: close to Trump McMaster, will appoint a replacement. Who does
- 1:05Speaker 2: Donald Trump think who would he want?
- 1:07Speaker 3: Well, I have somebody that I think would be great,
- 1:09Speaker 3: but I don't want to say it now because it just,
- 1:13Speaker 3: you know, it's too soon. With Lindsey.
- 1:15Speaker 4: I don't want to even talk about anybody, but I
- 1:17Speaker 4: do have somebody that I think is really good.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Who does he want? This may surprise you. Take a guess. No, No,
- 1:28Speaker 2: his choice that he will recommend is Lindsay Graham's sister,
- 1:33Speaker 2: Darlene Graham Nordone. You heard the story that he's had
- 1:38Speaker 2: a rough life. Lindsey Graham. He was in college and
- 1:41Speaker 2: while in college, his mother died, then his father died.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Both parents died while he was in college. He then
- 1:48Speaker 2: adopted his sister, who was thirteen at the time, and
- 1:51Speaker 2: raised her. And pretty courageous guy, Lindsey Graham. So the
- 1:57Speaker 2: sister would be Donald Trump's choice. So we'll see how that.
- 2:01Speaker 2: We'll see what happens with that. This legionnaire's disease. What
- 2:07Speaker 2: do you need to know, Well, it's around the Upper
- 2:10Speaker 2: east Side. They found it in about thirty different water towers.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Above the building is that water tower where the water
- 2:17Speaker 2: sits that they're used for the building, the air conditioning,
- 2:21Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. It's actually now thirty one
- 2:23Speaker 2: buildings on the Upper east Side. One of them is
- 2:26Speaker 2: the Guggenheim Museum. Now, the problem if it's in the
- 2:28Speaker 2: water tower and gets in the water system of the building.
- 2:32Speaker 2: It can run through the building, and it can run
- 2:34Speaker 2: through the air conditioning system in the vapor in the mist,
- 2:37Speaker 2: and that's where you can catch it. So if it's
- 2:40Speaker 2: in the water tower of the Guggenheim Museum, you would
- 2:43Speaker 2: think they'd close it, but they have not closed the museum. Now,
- 2:48Speaker 2: how does it get in the water tower. Well, it's
- 2:50Speaker 2: lee Chanella, which is a bacteria, and it can just
- 2:53Speaker 2: naturally happen in a body of water, but it usually
- 2:57Speaker 2: happens in very high temperatures when the water gets really
- 3:01Speaker 2: really warm, and still that's where it can form. Now,
- 3:06Speaker 2: you remember the heat wave of July fourth week. It
- 3:11Speaker 2: was those three days that probably really really really got
- 3:14Speaker 2: this going. So in that kind of heat, that's where
- 3:17Speaker 2: you got to worry about Legionnaire's disease. It's formed in
- 3:19Speaker 2: thirty one of these buildings. Eighteen of the properties have
- 3:23Speaker 2: already cleaned and disinfected their water cooling towers. The other
- 3:28Speaker 2: twelve buildings were ordered to complete it quickly. Hopefully they've
- 3:32Speaker 2: got it done. That would bring it up to thirty.
- 3:35Speaker 2: The museum, I'm sure is on top of it. At
- 3:38Speaker 2: least forty six people caught it in those buildings. And
- 3:43Speaker 2: here's the bad news. They've just discovered it in a
- 3:45Speaker 2: water tower on the Upper west Side. That's the first
- 3:49Speaker 2: sign of it there. The city has tested one hundred
- 3:52Speaker 2: and eighty three cooling towers on the Upper east Side
- 3:56Speaker 2: since the outbreak, which started July second. So this is
- 4:01Speaker 2: where you need a real mayor, not a first time
- 4:03Speaker 2: guy who's in his first job, and you need a
- 4:05Speaker 2: real task force to get out there and really really
- 4:09Speaker 2: start checking these water towers, these cooling towers. But hopefully
- 4:13Speaker 2: they'll get on top of it. But again, the first
- 4:16Speaker 2: report on the Upper west Side has happened. That's not
- 4:21Speaker 2: good news. Hey, FIFA, here's some good news. FIFA is
- 4:28Speaker 2: over on Sunday. Thank god, it's enough with this FIFA.
- 4:33Speaker 2: FIFA is over Sunday night. This is I don't know
- 4:37Speaker 2: what do you call this playoff week or final round,
- 4:41Speaker 2: this round, that round, and then Sunday night it's it.
- 4:44Speaker 2: It will be the final game and then they won't
- 4:47Speaker 2: get the hell o here. Of course they'll take with
- 4:50Speaker 2: them all those tourists. And that's a lot of money
- 4:52Speaker 2: being spent in New York. But we always get plenty
- 4:54Speaker 2: of tourists. But it'll put things back to normal. It's
- 4:58Speaker 2: happened to me a number of times. I'm walking by
- 5:00Speaker 2: a restaurant. I see it's mobbed. It's packed. People can't
- 5:04Speaker 2: even get in the looking in the window, and I said, well,
- 5:05Speaker 2: this must be And then I get up close I
- 5:07Speaker 2: realize it's because the restaurant has a lot of TVs
- 5:10Speaker 2: with the soccer on, and they're all watching. It's some
- 5:12Speaker 2: even staring through the window. I don't know what the
- 5:14Speaker 2: hell they're looking at it. You can't tell one team
- 5:16Speaker 2: from the other. Hey, tonight, it's All Star break. All
- 5:20Speaker 2: Star Game. Tonight is home run Derby. That's probably the
- 5:24Speaker 2: best event in baseball. Let's be honest. What do you
- 5:26Speaker 2: want to see more than anything else? A home run?
- 5:30Speaker 2: In fact, I would just make that a sport home
- 5:33Speaker 2: run derby every night. It's a great thing to watch.
- 5:35Speaker 2: So that's tonight. Dairy Queen. I love Dairy Queen. I'm
- 5:42Speaker 2: a big Dairy Queen fan. It's delicious. There's nothing better
- 5:46Speaker 2: than a Dairy Queen blizzard. Warren Buffett went to Dairy
- 5:49Speaker 2: Queen one day. Was so good he bought the whole company.
- 5:51Speaker 2: He's owned it for decades and decades and decades, but
- 5:57Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a meltdown there and they've
- 5:59Speaker 2: closed it at least forty six locations. Texas took the
- 6:03Speaker 2: biggest hit. Alaska saw three dairy Queens closed down now
- 6:08Speaker 2: that I don't see, Like remember the heat wave. If
- 6:11Speaker 2: you were walking by a dairy Queen in a heat wave,
- 6:12Speaker 2: you had to get at one of those blizzards there.
- 6:15Speaker 2: But if you're in Alaska, I think the last thing
- 6:16Speaker 2: you'd want is ice cream in the middle of ice everywhere.
- 6:22Speaker 2: Who needs ice cream in Alaska? I think hot chocolate
- 6:25Speaker 2: business would do better there, but they only have one
- 6:28Speaker 2: left in the whole state, Dairy Queen. You know, Dairy
- 6:31Speaker 2: Queen actually is considered the pioneer of soft serve ice cream.
- 6:35Speaker 2: Now it's everywhere everywhere soft serve, but it was Dairy
- 6:39Speaker 2: Queen that really pioneered that nineteen forty in Illinois. Buffet
- 6:44Speaker 2: bought it in nineteen ninety eight. There's almost eight thousand locations,
- 6:47Speaker 2: so it's still doing pretty well. New Blizzard flavors strawberry, mango, Mochi,
- 6:56Speaker 2: Mexican hot chocolate, and that sounds so great. He's speaking
- 7:01Speaker 2: to meet the press and all those kind of shows.
- 7:02Speaker 2: When you're watching on Sunday, they always open with these
- 7:06Speaker 2: big guests, you know, like with Lindsey Graham, it was
- 7:08Speaker 2: Donald Trump was the first guest, Benjamin nuttyaw who's the
- 7:11Speaker 2: second guest. The third segment, and this is almost every
- 7:16Speaker 2: week on these shows, Sunday shows, the third segment Adam
- 7:20Speaker 2: Schiff and Roe Kanna, These two low lifes. Adam Shift,
- 7:26Speaker 2: that lying, rotten, pencilneck, vicious, hate filled guy. He's just
- 7:31Speaker 2: there to attack Trump. He'll call Trump all kinds of
- 7:33Speaker 2: names and accuse him of everything. So they love having
- 7:36Speaker 2: them on. Then this Row Kanna popped up about a
- 7:38Speaker 2: year ago. He's like the Indian version of Adam Shift.
- 7:41Speaker 2: So these two guys, if you're watching the Sunday shows,
- 7:44Speaker 2: you watch Meet the Press every week it's Row Conna
- 7:47Speaker 2: and Adam Schiff as if they're major figures in Congress.
- 7:53Speaker 2: I guess they've become major figures because they keep putting
- 7:55Speaker 2: them on the Sunday shows. But they are actually two
- 7:58Speaker 2: of the nothingest, most insigtignificant nobody's in Congress. They're not
- 8:03Speaker 2: known for anything there. They've done nothing, accomplished nothing. He
- 8:06Speaker 2: can't point to any legislation or anything these two guys
- 8:09Speaker 2: have done. Yet there they are on every Sunday show
- 8:13Speaker 2: every week. They're on CNN, they're on MSNBC. It never stops.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Why because they'll call Trump more names than anybody else.
- 8:21Speaker 2: So they've made a career. Usually you get ahead in
- 8:25Speaker 2: Congress by famous initiatives or bills or legislation or taking
- 8:30Speaker 2: a stance on some issue. But these guys did it
- 8:33Speaker 2: just attacking Trump. It's a strange world. Now they speaking
- 8:37Speaker 2: of Rocanna. He went to Israel. Now here's the most
- 8:41Speaker 2: anti Israel, anti semiticay. And what the hell is he
- 8:44Speaker 2: doing in Israel except looking for trouble. So he's accusing
- 8:51Speaker 2: Israel of all kinds of things. The Israeli forces detained
- 8:54Speaker 2: them unlawfully knowing him. He was somewhere he shouldn't have been.
- 8:59Speaker 2: But the other other thing was, as long as he
- 9:01Speaker 2: was there, they invited him to meet with the former
- 9:06Speaker 2: hostages and survivors of the horrific Hamas attack on October seventh.
- 9:12Speaker 2: Now what politician wouldn't take up that offer. You're in Israel,
- 9:18Speaker 2: they offer to have a meeting with you. You can
- 9:20Speaker 2: meet the hostages and the survivors of October seventh. Ro
- 9:25Speaker 2: Kanna turned it down, absolutely not. Wouldn't talk to them,
- 9:27Speaker 2: wouldn't talk to those people. What a low life. Now,
- 9:31Speaker 2: this anti Semitism has taken over the Democratic Party is
- 9:35Speaker 2: a big problem for some people. If you're ramam Manuel,
- 9:40Speaker 2: and for about a year now he's been looking at
- 9:42Speaker 2: running for president, plotting and scheming is how he could
- 9:46Speaker 2: run in twenty twenty eight. So he's Jewish. What do
- 9:49Speaker 2: you do about that in the anti Semitic Democratic Party. Well,
- 9:52Speaker 2: he went over to Israel last week. Well how's that help? Well,
- 9:57Speaker 2: because he went over there and started denouncing Israel in Israel.
- 10:01Speaker 2: So that's the thing with today's Democratic Party. You got
- 10:04Speaker 2: to look as antisemitic as you can look to get
- 10:08Speaker 2: anywhere in today's democratic world, even if you're Jewish like
- 10:11Speaker 2: Ram em Manuel, and shame on him for even doing that.
- 10:15Speaker 2: And you know, if you're a normal Democrat, a normal
- 10:18Speaker 2: Bill Clinton type of Democrat, your enemy is Ram Emmanuel,
- 10:22Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer, Hakim Jefferys, Nancy Pelosi. The leadership that caved in,
- 10:27Speaker 2: that surrendered your party, handed the keys over to these crazies. Hey,
- 10:32Speaker 2: you want a TV studio there's a great one for sale.
- 10:35Speaker 2: The two best in Los Angeles or the world for
- 10:38Speaker 2: that matter, was NBC Burbank. That's where the Tonight Show
- 10:43Speaker 2: came from. That's where everything came from. Hollywood Squares, Flip Wilson,
- 10:47Speaker 2: the Dean Martin Shall, NBC, the Big Laugh in the
- 10:51Speaker 2: Big Studios in Burbank. The other big that's gone now,
- 10:54Speaker 2: it's been bought and transformed into all kinds of things.
- 10:58Speaker 2: But the other one was CBS Television City in Hollywood,
- 11:02Speaker 2: where the Match Game came from, where Carol Burnett came from.
- 11:06Speaker 2: CBS Television City in Hollywood. Well that's gone too. CBS left,
- 11:10Speaker 2: and then somebody bought it, and somebody else bought it.
- 11:12Speaker 2: The current owner apparently a huge amount of debt, so
- 11:18Speaker 2: they're going to sell Television City in Hollywood. It's not
- 11:22Speaker 2: so much the owner's fault. This is the problem in Hollywood.
- 11:25Speaker 2: There's very little production there anymore, for a couple of reasons. One,
- 11:29Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom and all those crazy left wingers running California
- 11:33Speaker 2: and Hollywood have let the place become a war zone.
- 11:37Speaker 2: It's a terrible place to live and work now. And
- 11:40Speaker 2: the other thing is the unions in Hollywood. The cost,
- 11:43Speaker 2: so a lot of TV is filmed somewhere else. A
- 11:46Speaker 2: lot of US film. Didn't believe it. That's cheaper in
- 11:48Speaker 2: New York. Sometimes a lot of it's filmed in Toronto
- 11:50Speaker 2: or other cities. It's just cheaper. So there's a lot
- 11:53Speaker 2: less production in Hollywood. That's why they don't need NBC
- 11:57Speaker 2: in Burbank anymore. And that's why Televisions the new owner.
- 12:01Speaker 2: It's beautiful studios, they're magnificent, but they couldn't find enough
- 12:04Speaker 2: work to keep the place going. So it's up for sale. Now.
- 12:08Speaker 2: Someday they might get a real mayor in New York,
- 12:11Speaker 2: hopefully here too, and turn it around. But it's up
- 12:15Speaker 2: for sale.
- 12:16Speaker 1: Hey.
- 12:16Speaker 2: Speaking of which, if you want a hotel, you want
- 12:17Speaker 2: to buy a hotel. The Waldorf is up for sale.
- 12:22Speaker 2: It closed about ten twelve years ago. Some Chinese company
- 12:26Speaker 2: bought it and started to redo it, and then they
- 12:28Speaker 2: went out of business. Then another company in another company. Well,
- 12:31Speaker 2: the other company spent the money, spent fortune rebuilding the Waldorf.
- 12:36Speaker 2: They reopened it about eight months ago. It's magnificent. I
- 12:39Speaker 2: don't know what happened. It's also got half apartments of
- 12:43Speaker 2: the spectacle. I don't know what happened, but it's up
- 12:44Speaker 2: for sale. This company wants out. You can buy it.
- 12:48Speaker 2: It's up for sale right now. The Rolling Stones. Who
- 12:53Speaker 2: would you think was the biggest sex maniac of the
- 12:55Speaker 2: Rolling Stones. No, it's not Mick Jagger, not even close.
- 13:00Speaker 2: Isn't that funny? It was Bill Wyman, Bill Wyman, out
- 13:08Speaker 2: of all those Nah, it wasn't Keith Richards either. It
- 13:11Speaker 2: was this Bill Wyman who had this thing. And the
- 13:13Speaker 2: Jagger and the others talked about it in a new
- 13:15Speaker 2: book that from day one, from the beginning, this Bill
- 13:18Speaker 2: Wyman had to sleep with every woman on earth. A
- 13:23Speaker 2: lot of guys do this before I show, they look
- 13:24Speaker 2: out through the curtain, they look out through a little people,
- 13:26Speaker 2: they look at the audience, they see any women they like,
- 13:30Speaker 2: They send a couple of guys out there to get
- 13:32Speaker 2: the women and bring him backstage. This happens all the time.
- 13:35Speaker 2: This is perfectly. Every celebrity does that. But with Wyman,
- 13:40Speaker 2: he'd get to two or three or four every night,
- 13:43Speaker 2: sleep with them, and he'd keep a journal of all
- 13:46Speaker 2: the women he slept with. Every woman her name, you know,
- 13:48Speaker 2: little notes about that night. It got up to eighteen
- 13:52Speaker 2: hundred names. This is years ago. It got up to
- 13:54Speaker 2: eighteen hundred and he stopped counting. He just got sick
- 13:59Speaker 2: of it after eighteen hundred. He was the oldest rolling
- 14:04Speaker 2: Stone too, and he was the only married rolling Stone.
- 14:08Speaker 2: Yet when he joined the band, he just let loosen
- 14:10Speaker 2: became the craziest of all of them. Jagger was not
- 14:15Speaker 2: really like that, and believe or not, Keith Richard very
- 14:18Speaker 2: romantic type. If he was with a woman, he would
- 14:20Speaker 2: pretty much be loyal and he could count them all
- 14:25Speaker 2: on his fingers. Nothing like the eighteen hundred of Bill Wyman.
- 14:30Speaker 2: A lot of stuff coming out about the Stones right
- 14:32Speaker 2: now because they got this new album out, which everybody
- 14:36Speaker 2: loves pretty good. Also, Jagger doing an interview where they
- 14:39Speaker 2: asked him about Bruce Springsteen, who takes to the stage
- 14:43Speaker 2: in the middle of two songs will do a twenty
- 14:46Speaker 2: minute tirade yelling and screaming and cursing about Trump. Jagger said,
- 14:52Speaker 2: it's just awful. He likes Bruce Springsteen, but he said,
- 14:55Speaker 2: that's the last thing you want to do. And Jagger,
- 14:58Speaker 2: this is the most common sense thing in the world.
- 15:00Speaker 2: He said. It costs a lot of money to come
- 15:02Speaker 2: see a concert. And people are there to have a
- 15:05Speaker 2: good time and be entertained. They don't need a lecture,
- 15:08Speaker 2: even if they agree with you. They're there to be entertained,
- 15:11Speaker 2: forget their troubles, enjoy themselves. They're not there to get
- 15:15Speaker 2: all riled up over politics. He said, Springsteen is crazy
- 15:19Speaker 2: to be doing that stuff. Good for Mick Jagger. Hey,
- 15:21Speaker 2: we'll take some calls next. Eight hundred three two one
- 15:25Speaker 2: zero seven ten is the number. Eight hundred three two
- 15:29Speaker 2: one zero seven ten.
- 15:32Speaker 1: Here's more marks alone on seventeen wor.
- 15:38Speaker 2: Well, let's take some calls. Hey, let's get some new
- 15:40Speaker 2: callers too. We always like to hear from our new callers.
- 15:43Speaker 2: Eight hundred three two one zero seven ten is the number.
- 15:46Speaker 2: Eight hundred three two one zero seven ten. Let's go
- 15:50Speaker 2: to Jeff in Manhattan. Jeff, how you doing good?
- 15:53Speaker 3: Walk? You brought up bro Connor before. Yeah, I got
- 15:57Speaker 3: three quick comments about him. Well, you know they used
- 16:01Speaker 3: to say the most dangerous place you could be is
- 16:03Speaker 3: between schuma and a camera. Well that's now ro Kanna,
- 16:06Speaker 3: that's number one, number two. A lot of good people
- 16:10Speaker 3: lost their careers because they were tangentially connected to Epstein.
- 16:15Speaker 3: This guy wrote, Kanna was in the same northern California
- 16:18Speaker 3: area of Swawell. His friend he knew exactly what was
- 16:21Speaker 3: going on, and he didn't say anything. Then how does
- 16:24Speaker 3: he rehabilitate himself? He goes with that Nazi guy from Maine,
- 16:28Speaker 3: so if he probably wants to run for president, but
- 16:31Speaker 3: these things are a forfeit. And then he talked about
- 16:33Speaker 3: he went to Israel. He has no credibility on Israel
- 16:37Speaker 3: because any neutral person would not support a candidate that
- 16:41Speaker 3: had twenty years of a Nazi death camp tattoo on
- 16:44Speaker 3: his chest.
- 16:44Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he was not there in Israel too do
- 16:47Speaker 2: anything good for Israel. He was there to be anti
- 16:49Speaker 2: Semitic while in Israel.
- 16:51Speaker 4: Right, but he.
- 16:54Speaker 3: Cannot be taken seriously.
- 16:55Speaker 2: As I don't think anybody. I don't think anybody was
- 16:58Speaker 2: taking him seriously outside of that fake news crowd. Let's
- 17:02Speaker 2: go to Jack in New Jersey. Jack, how you doing.
- 17:05Speaker 4: I'm doing fine, Mark Good Good. A couple of questions
- 17:09Speaker 4: for you.
- 17:10Speaker 3: What is going on with Doge? Is that our department
- 17:12Speaker 3: still in existence because it's doing anything?
- 17:15Speaker 2: Or well the Elon Musk Doge now that got shut down,
- 17:19Speaker 2: but they're still doging. There's a little Doge it's more
- 17:22Speaker 2: Vice President Vance in charge of it. Now, he's overseeing it.
- 17:25Speaker 3: Right.
- 17:26Speaker 2: They're doing the same kind of stuff, but quietly slower,
- 17:29Speaker 2: quieter than Musk was doing it. They're kind of trying
- 17:32Speaker 2: to do it under the radar. But it's still going on.
- 17:34Speaker 2: They're still making cuts all the time.
- 17:37Speaker 1: You know.
- 17:37Speaker 2: Part of the problem also was Obama stuck in in
- 17:41Speaker 2: every department of the cabinet, stuck in a couple thousand
- 17:43Speaker 2: of his operatives. They're going to clean those guys out too.
- 17:47Speaker 2: Not only are they bad partisans, but useless don't need them.
- 17:51Speaker 2: So the doge effort continues. Let's go to Mike in Florida. Mike,
- 17:56Speaker 2: how you doing.
- 17:58Speaker 4: Good morning, Mark. Yes, I just wanted to jog you
- 18:02Speaker 4: member where you mentioned home Run Derby should be its
- 18:04Speaker 4: own sport. It was a TV show, as you may remember,
- 18:07Speaker 4: in like the early sixties and maybe nineteen sixty and
- 18:11Speaker 4: it was you know, they had all the great home
- 18:13Speaker 4: run here was of the year ye Banks And.
- 18:18Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot about that. They did it as a
- 18:20Speaker 2: it was like on a weekend TV show. They're on YouTube,
- 18:23Speaker 2: you know, you can go watch them. It's pretty amazing.
- 18:27Speaker 4: Yes, I used to have the He used to have
- 18:28Speaker 4: the DVD and it was just fascinating to watch. I
- 18:31Speaker 4: mean it was just just to see the disciplines between
- 18:34Speaker 4: players then and players now. How in those those days,
- 18:37Speaker 4: these guys was like quiet. They didn't know how to
- 18:39Speaker 4: act in front of a camera. Now these guys are
- 18:41Speaker 4: all like movie stars and they're like, you know, they've
- 18:44Speaker 4: grown up with cameras around them. But back then, Mickey Mantle,
- 18:46Speaker 4: you know this guy from Oklahoma. Yeah, he's pretty good,
- 18:49Speaker 4: you know. It was the co host would have like
- 18:52Speaker 4: try to get words out of these guys, and none
- 18:54Speaker 4: of them were very h Was.
- 18:56Speaker 2: It actually called Home Run Derby? I'm trying to remember.
- 18:59Speaker 4: Yes, was called home on Derby and it was done.
- 19:02Speaker 4: They shot it out in La at the LA version
- 19:04Speaker 4: of Wrigley Field. There was a Wriggley Field out in
- 19:07Speaker 4: la as well as there was in Chicago back in
- 19:09Speaker 4: the day.
- 19:09Speaker 2: Yeah, they're on YouTube on flight the year. Yeah, but
- 19:12Speaker 2: there's enough of them on YouTube, and it's really unbelievable.
- 19:16Speaker 2: It's Mel Allen, right and somebody else.
- 19:19Speaker 4: No, it was another It was a local guy. I
- 19:21Speaker 4: can't remember his name, but he was Yeah, so local guy.
- 19:26Speaker 4: ESPN brought it back like in the eighties or nineties,
- 19:28Speaker 4: and Melon they may have those guys may mail Allen
- 19:31Speaker 4: and those types may have No I'm thinking of the
- 19:32Speaker 4: original commentary.
- 19:34Speaker 2: I thought it was because original, because they were originally
- 19:37Speaker 2: he'll say, well, we got our two players here, Uh,
- 19:40Speaker 2: Mickey Mantle and Willie May saylo guys, and they would
- 19:43Speaker 2: and then they would each take turns. Yeah, black and white,
- 19:45Speaker 2: phenomenal to watch, uh YouTube, And then.
- 19:48Speaker 4: They would sit next to him what the other guy badded?
- 19:50Speaker 4: They would talk and comment on them as much as
- 19:52Speaker 4: the look. You know, they weren't very loquacious, as I said,
- 19:55Speaker 4: so it was.
- 19:57Speaker 2: Now you're a big Johnny Carson fan, right.
- 20:00Speaker 4: Big, big, big, big yes, looking forward to your interview
- 20:03Speaker 4: with Mark there.
- 20:05Speaker 2: Yeah, we got Mark Malcoff coming up. He's the Johnny
- 20:07Speaker 2: Carson expert of the world. He wrote the definitive book
- 20:09Speaker 2: on him. It just came out last year. What do
- 20:12Speaker 2: you want me to ask him about Johnny Carson? Anythink
- 20:14Speaker 2: you've always wondered?
- 20:15Speaker 3: Geez?
- 20:16Speaker 4: Oh boy, well, I always liked the episode where was
- 20:21Speaker 4: it Dean Martin was flicking?
- 20:22Speaker 1: Who was it was flipping?
- 20:24Speaker 4: His ashes?
- 20:25Speaker 2: And George and.
- 20:27Speaker 1: What's his name is?
- 20:28Speaker 4: George Goebels drink. I mean it was cautioning in on
- 20:30Speaker 4: that was that pre planned? It was Martin.
- 20:34Speaker 2: That's okay, No, he would do that in real life.
- 20:36Speaker 2: That was Dean Martin. He and Jerry Lewis would would
- 20:39Speaker 2: always do pranks on everybody. They would light your shoes
- 20:43Speaker 2: on fire, all that stuff.
- 20:44Speaker 4: And it was Robin and the Seven Hoods was on
- 20:48Speaker 4: TCM for you know, the other like two days ago,
- 20:51Speaker 4: and and you know, Martin just seemed like he was
- 20:53Speaker 4: cake walking through that whole That whole movie was just
- 20:56Speaker 4: like Dean, can you get into it a little bit?
- 20:59Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Mike, great call, Thanks for calling. That
- 21:03Speaker 2: was the I think that was the last rat Pack film,
- 21:07Speaker 2: Robin in The Seven Hoods. In fact, the cemetery scene
- 21:12Speaker 2: Peter Falk and Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin, Sammy Davis
- 21:15Speaker 2: is the scene where they're at the cemetery for the funeral,
- 21:18Speaker 2: And it was they were filming that scene when a
- 21:22Speaker 2: guy ran in right in the middle of shooting, stopped
- 21:24Speaker 2: the whole production and he said, President Kennedy has just
- 21:27Speaker 2: been shot. And Sinatra had had quite a relationship with
- 21:31Speaker 2: John F. Kennedy, so he just ran from the set,
- 21:35Speaker 2: went home to Palm Springs. Nobody saw him for a week.
- 21:39Speaker 2: He just didn't come out. He was so shaken up
- 21:41Speaker 2: by the death of JFK. So, yeah, we'll talk to
- 21:47Speaker 2: we'll talk to the Johnny Carson expert coming up next.
- 21:49Speaker 2: We've got lots to talk to him about. And also
- 21:54Speaker 2: we'll get to get back to Lindsey Graham. The replacement
- 21:58Speaker 2: word is that President Trump wants Lindsey Graham's sister to
- 22:02Speaker 2: be the replacement. The replacement candidate would serve out the
- 22:05Speaker 2: term till January, and that's very important because you can
- 22:08Speaker 2: need those votes. You know, you got a big other
- 22:10Speaker 2: problem is Mitch mcconnald very very very bad health, and
- 22:15Speaker 2: you can't afford to lose him. Now, some people are
- 22:16Speaker 2: saying there's a number of people in Congress, Republican Congress
- 22:21Speaker 2: people that could be appointed to Lindsay Graham seat. Can't
- 22:23Speaker 2: do that because the Republican majority in Congress is so tight,
- 22:28Speaker 2: so slim. You can't pull anybody out of there right now.
- 22:31Speaker 2: So that's a big problem. But anyway, we'll talk about
- 22:34Speaker 2: Johnny Carson in a moment. There's a great new book out,
- 22:36Speaker 2: the best ever written about Carson, and we'll get to
- 22:40Speaker 2: that coming up next on seven to ten.
- 22:42Speaker 1: W Mark Simon Show Live from the WR Life Back Studio.
- 22:50Speaker 2: Well, Johnny Carson probably the greatest name in the history
- 22:54Speaker 2: of television. Now, I was the Johnny Carson expert of
- 22:59Speaker 2: the world. Knew everything. But then I started listening to
- 23:01Speaker 2: this thing called the Carson Podcast. Mark Malkoff did it.
- 23:05Speaker 2: He had like four hundred guests. Everybody was ever on
- 23:08Speaker 2: the Tonight Show. By the time I listened to that,
- 23:11Speaker 2: I knew. I learned fifteen thousand things I never knew
- 23:14Speaker 2: before the podcast, The Carson Podcast. You could still listen
- 23:17Speaker 2: to it, it's online. The Carson Podcast was so successful
- 23:21Speaker 2: he then got Mark Malkoff got this big book deal
- 23:24Speaker 2: and the book is the definitive ultimate book about Johnny Carson,
- 23:29Speaker 2: the best book ever written about him. It's called Love
- 23:32Speaker 2: Johnny Carson. The book is out. Go to Amazon. You
- 23:35Speaker 2: can order it there wherever you get books. But just
- 23:37Speaker 2: go to Amazon order the book Love Johnny Carson by
- 23:42Speaker 2: Mark Malcoff. You'll be amazed. You'll love it. The author
- 23:45Speaker 2: is with us now, Mark Malkoff, how you doing.
- 23:48Speaker 1: I'm doing fantastic. Thanks for having me back Mark.
- 23:51Speaker 2: And how's the book doing. Is it's been about a
- 23:53Speaker 2: year now, right that it's been out.
- 23:55Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been about a little bit more than six months,
- 23:57Speaker 1: you can believe it. And yeah, it's a US say
- 24:00Speaker 1: today best selling books. I've heard from people just all
- 24:04Speaker 1: over the country that just missed Johnny Carson, and the
- 24:07Speaker 1: book brings people back. I talked to over four hundred people,
- 24:11Speaker 1: and I mean, you knew Johnny Carson, so just to
- 24:13Speaker 1: be able to talk to someone like yourself and get
- 24:15Speaker 1: these inside stories, I thought this is the first book
- 24:19Speaker 1: that really chronicled who Carson was from the people that
- 24:22Speaker 1: knew him.
- 24:22Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, in the book and the podcast, you interviewed
- 24:25Speaker 2: those closest to him, the producers, the directors, the writers,
- 24:30Speaker 2: his close friends, all of that, the real Johnny Carson.
- 24:35Speaker 2: You know, they thought of him as cold and aloof
- 24:37Speaker 2: but that was when he was at work. He was
- 24:39Speaker 2: a warm guy outside of that. But the real Johnny
- 24:42Speaker 2: Carson still kind of a mystery, right, nobody's ever figured
- 24:45Speaker 2: out one hundred percent, have they not?
- 24:48Speaker 1: One hundred percent? I Mean he definitely, you know, had
- 24:51Speaker 1: some other issues and he would open up to his friends,
- 24:55Speaker 1: but only to an extent, you know. I mean he
- 24:57Speaker 1: had this Midwestern upbringing where you didn't really show your feelings.
- 25:01Speaker 1: His brother Dick Carson, who who was the Tonight Show
- 25:04Speaker 1: director in New York, said, you know, we weren't Italian,
- 25:08Speaker 1: We didn't no one ever really said what they were
- 25:10Speaker 1: thinking in their family.
- 25:11Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, Johnny Carson a lot of people watching him.
- 25:14Speaker 2: That Midwestern that aw shucks, kind of sweet Midwestern. But
- 25:18Speaker 2: he was a tough guy when he needed to be
- 25:21Speaker 2: ambitious tough, right, tell us about that?
- 25:24Speaker 1: Well, I think anybody that has longevity, I mean, this
- 25:26Speaker 1: is a man for thirty years that stayed number one,
- 25:31Speaker 1: is going to be a competitive guy. I mean he
- 25:33Speaker 1: was in bed watching his show every night like a
- 25:36Speaker 1: football coach taking notes. He was watching the guest host,
- 25:39Speaker 1: he was in watching his competition. I mean, in nineteen
- 25:42Speaker 1: seventy one, he had four TVs going on at once
- 25:45Speaker 1: in his home at the un Plaza. He's watching his
- 25:47Speaker 1: Dick Habit, He's watching his own show, he's watching David Frost,
- 25:51Speaker 1: He's watching either merv or Joey Bishop. But yeah, I
- 25:54Speaker 1: mean he was. There was nobody that was more competitive.
- 25:56Speaker 1: I mean, he pays himself like a prize fighter. I
- 25:59Speaker 1: mean he he would just show up maybe two hours
- 26:01Speaker 1: before work. He'd didn't work in all day, but he
- 26:04Speaker 1: wanted to conserve his energy for that ninety minutes. I
- 26:07Speaker 1: mean originally an hour forty five minutes, been ninety minutes,
- 26:10Speaker 1: and I mean he would be exhausted by that, and
- 26:12Speaker 1: it would every ounce of his being would be used
- 26:16Speaker 1: on that show.
- 26:18Speaker 2: See, here's the thing. As long as I've been in broadcast,
- 26:21Speaker 2: I always tell you, you know, you should listen to
- 26:23Speaker 2: your show, like I should take this show today and
- 26:26Speaker 2: then listen to it and go over it and study
- 26:28Speaker 2: it and make improvement. You're supposed to do that every day.
- 26:30Speaker 2: I've done that. The total is zero times.
- 26:34Speaker 1: Never do that.
- 26:36Speaker 2: It's tough because as soon as you start playing, oh god,
- 26:38Speaker 2: it sounds awful, you can't. But he would do that, right,
- 26:41Speaker 2: That's how you really get to be hen.
- 26:43Speaker 1: I think it's definitely a blessing and occurs. I mean
- 26:46Speaker 1: he was obsessed. I mean David Letterman, who modeled his
- 26:48Speaker 1: career after his hero Johnny Carson. The first thing Dave,
- 26:51Speaker 1: because I worked for Dave. The first thing Dave would
- 26:52Speaker 1: do after the tape and is go to his office
- 26:54Speaker 1: and he'd be given a copy of the show that
- 26:56Speaker 1: they just taped, and Dave would watch every second of
- 26:59Speaker 1: his broad cast. And I mean it, I do not
- 27:02Speaker 1: think that that is overall a positive thing. But Johnny
- 27:06Speaker 1: was obsessed. He you know, you would tell a journalist,
- 27:08Speaker 1: he would say, you just you you know, you're number one,
- 27:10Speaker 1: and you just start coasting and then you before you
- 27:13Speaker 1: know it, somebody knocks you off. I mean we all
- 27:15Speaker 1: know this that people tried to take this guy on,
- 27:18Speaker 1: and you know, nobody could make a dent. I mean,
- 27:21Speaker 1: there was nobody that was more competitive than carterson. Even
- 27:25Speaker 1: someone like Tom Snyder you would never think would be
- 27:28Speaker 1: Carson would be like, this guy's a thread. I mean,
- 27:30Speaker 1: Johnny really kept Snyder an arm length arm's leg had to,
- 27:34Speaker 1: you know, he was so powerful. I mean it was
- 27:36Speaker 1: twenty percent of NBC's profits at one point that every
- 27:39Speaker 1: Tom Snyder guess Johnny had to approve. You know, even
- 27:42Speaker 1: David Letterman, who followed Carson. Carson produced, Johnny had to give.
- 27:46Speaker 1: John gave Dave Letterman all these rules that he thought
- 27:50Speaker 1: would hinder Dave.
- 27:51Speaker 2: No monologue.
- 27:51Speaker 1: You have to have a band that's four people or
- 27:54Speaker 1: last you can't have a sidekick that sits on the couch,
- 27:57Speaker 1: all these things to keep his competition den. Uh.
- 28:02Speaker 2: Well it worked, yeah, uh, it did work, But.
- 28:05Speaker 1: There was nobody more generous. At the same time. You know,
- 28:07Speaker 1: all these people that were unknowns go on a show
- 28:09Speaker 1: and immediately within a couple of weeks they're back. Joan
- 28:12Speaker 1: Rivers went back within two weeks. It blew up Burt
- 28:15Speaker 1: Reynold's life change going on carsonce Reynolds says to this
- 28:20Speaker 1: is that before he left this earth that Johnny Carson
- 28:24Speaker 1: was the biggest break of his career. He loved him.
- 28:26Speaker 1: Bet Middler unknown and as she's suddenly a superstar. So
- 28:30Speaker 1: the guy's generosity, I mean, there's nobody in TV that
- 28:33Speaker 1: was more generous than that guy.
- 28:35Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 28:35Speaker 2: The straight thing was he would always have unknown comics
- 28:38Speaker 2: on and as a result, he discovered Joan Rivers, he
- 28:40Speaker 2: discovered he can gave it a thousand comedians. He discovered
- 28:43Speaker 2: why when Jane Leno took over a stand up comic himself,
- 28:46Speaker 2: why did he stop that tradition?
- 28:49Speaker 1: Jay Is first of all, gave me fifty minutes for
- 28:52Speaker 1: the book when we talked about this. The ratings, unfortunately
- 28:55Speaker 1: for both music and comedians, they go down. According to
- 28:59Speaker 1: NBC research, the reason music is always at the very
- 29:03Speaker 1: end of those late night shows is because the ratings
- 29:06Speaker 1: are down. At one point, Saturday Night Live try to
- 29:08Speaker 1: convince Lord Michael's to get rid of the music as
- 29:09Speaker 1: because music was the ratings were going down, and Jay
- 29:12Speaker 1: was a company guy, you know, Johnny basically did. NBC
- 29:16Speaker 1: did whatever Johnny wanted, and Johnny said, no, I love comedians.
- 29:19Speaker 1: I am going to launch comedians. And even though Jay
- 29:22Speaker 1: Leno was one of those comedians Johnny launch. When Jay
- 29:24Speaker 1: got the Tonight show as a company man, he would
- 29:26Speaker 1: look at every rating for every minute, and he saw
- 29:29Speaker 1: the stand ups were going down in the ratings. And
- 29:31Speaker 1: suddenly this guy who was a stand up himself, Yeah,
- 29:35Speaker 1: they were almost never on his show. And it was
- 29:38Speaker 1: really really tough I think for the comedians in Leno's
- 29:40Speaker 1: peers to see that he would do that and kind of,
- 29:44Speaker 1: you know, sell out his community more or less for
- 29:47Speaker 1: a few ratings points.
- 29:49Speaker 2: Wow, we're talking Mark Malcoff. The book. Get the book.
- 29:52Speaker 2: It's called Love Johnny Carson. Best book ever written on
- 29:55Speaker 2: Johnny Carson's Called Love Johnny Carson. Go order it. On Amazon.
- 30:00Speaker 2: Favorite Guests, Carson guests. Everybody's got their own list. Mine
- 30:04Speaker 2: would start with Don Rickles, Rodney desk Field. Who would
- 30:08Speaker 2: you put on your list?
- 30:10Speaker 1: I mean, I think that those two were amazing. I
- 30:13Speaker 1: think Buddy Hackett was just an unbelievable all those three.
- 30:16Speaker 1: Johnny would throw out the pre interview. Charles Grodin was
- 30:19Speaker 1: another person that Johnny out of three people wanted to
- 30:22Speaker 1: be exclusively on a contract that they would only do
- 30:25Speaker 1: Johnny show. Charles Grody would go on this show and
- 30:28Speaker 1: just make fun of Johnny, and people in America thought
- 30:30Speaker 1: it was real that this guy was insulting their hero Johnny.
- 30:33Speaker 1: Carson and Johnny got such a kick out of it
- 30:35Speaker 1: that they would get letters. Why would you have this guy?
- 30:38Speaker 1: Charles Groden? He's so rude and mean, But Carson loved
- 30:40Speaker 1: every second. And you know, I got to go to
- 30:42Speaker 1: Connecticut twice to spend time with Charles Groden, and it
- 30:45Speaker 1: was just a highlight of his life going on with Carson.
- 30:47Speaker 1: And in retirement, they had a dinner lunch rather in
- 30:51Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and these people got so emotional. Mark talking
- 30:55Speaker 1: to me is tears in their eyes. I mean, sign
- 30:57Speaker 1: felt to this day with his hundreds of millions, billions
- 31:00Speaker 1: of dollars that's going on. Carson was the biggest moment
- 31:03Speaker 1: of his career, the last Seinfeld tape, and Johnny sent
- 31:07Speaker 1: a note to Jerry's dressing room congratulated in him. And
- 31:10Speaker 1: those are the things that Jerry to this day will say,
- 31:14Speaker 1: was that still that the top accomplishment and the stuff
- 31:16Speaker 1: that meant the most was Carson's approval.
- 31:18Speaker 2: Well that what guess he hated do he never wanted back.
- 31:22Speaker 2: Who are some of those.
- 31:24Speaker 1: Some of the people he didn't like is if they
- 31:26Speaker 1: would go on and they were ride to his staff.
- 31:28Speaker 1: He did not like Jerry Lewis because Jerry Lewis yelled
- 31:31Speaker 1: at his Q card person people that had bad manners
- 31:34Speaker 1: he had no tolerance for. And he you know, Danny Thomas, unfortunately,
- 31:38Speaker 1: with all the good he was in sho said some
- 31:40Speaker 1: inappropriate stuff into one of Carson's secretaries and it got
- 31:43Speaker 1: back to Cardon and he was banned. So anybody that
- 31:46Speaker 1: went into one of those things with bad behaviors, if
- 31:48Speaker 1: anyone was on a substance and it really affected their
- 31:50Speaker 1: performance and they were off their game, like Sam Kennison,
- 31:53Speaker 1: they were never allowed back. Kennison was always was, unfortunately,
- 31:57Speaker 1: and he abbriated and he could They had to that
- 32:00Speaker 1: part of his appearance because he was so out of
- 32:02Speaker 1: it and you were not going to come back if
- 32:04Speaker 1: that was the thing of that was the case. He
- 32:06Speaker 1: just despised bad manners. And then if anybody in their
- 32:10Speaker 1: personal life, like Joan Rivers, he felt betrayed him. And
- 32:14Speaker 1: you know, I really go we go into the in
- 32:16Speaker 1: the book, there's really deep dive on what actually happened.
- 32:20Speaker 1: I mean, Johnny got hurt more, very easily, more than
- 32:23Speaker 1: a normal person. He was devastated with Joan Rivers, and
- 32:26Speaker 1: we go into what actually happened, and it was very
- 32:29Speaker 1: different from miss rivers account.
- 32:31Speaker 2: Yeah, we love Joan Rivers, but she really did. She
- 32:34Speaker 2: really did betray him, despite her version of it.
- 32:37Speaker 1: Her her own friend said that that she owed Johnny
- 32:41Speaker 1: that you need to tell him. Barry Diller, who was
- 32:43Speaker 1: the head of Fox, I sat down with him in
- 32:45Speaker 1: New York. He said, she just said, you have to
- 32:48Speaker 1: tell Johnny. You're going to be competing against him. I'm
- 32:50Speaker 1: in a poker game with him and friends with Johnny.
- 32:52Speaker 1: You need to tell him that. She didn't, and there
- 32:54Speaker 1: was more to it. I mean, Joan tried to take
- 32:55Speaker 1: Johnny's producer, Peter less Sally, every talent coordinator was off
- 32:59Speaker 1: or double their salary go with Joan, and Johnny just
- 33:01Speaker 1: could not believe that this person who he really did
- 33:05Speaker 1: care about would do that to him. And when he
- 33:07Speaker 1: found out about it, because Joan, he tried to get
- 33:10Speaker 1: hold of Joan all weekends. She wouldn't take his calls.
- 33:12Speaker 1: When he finally found out, he started crying. According to
- 33:14Speaker 1: somebody who knew Johnny, and he was really really devastated.
- 33:18Speaker 1: And once somebody hurt him, he was so sensitive. The relationship,
- 33:21Speaker 1: unfortunately was over.
- 33:22Speaker 2: Yeah, so hey, we all remember the final night he
- 33:27Speaker 2: goes off here. Yeah that was thirty four years ago.
- 33:30Speaker 2: People can't believe that it's thirty four years of that.
- 33:32Speaker 2: And Mark Melcoffe, you're a young guy. You don't really
- 33:37Speaker 2: remember the early Johnny Carson, do you. You weren't around then.
- 33:40Speaker 1: I was sixteen when he went off the air, so
- 33:43Speaker 1: I have my dad to tell me back going to
- 33:45Speaker 1: the show. In nineteen sixty eight, he went to six B,
- 33:47Speaker 1: which is now Jimmy Fallon, and he got to see
- 33:50Speaker 1: everyone from Barbara McNair to Doug McClure to David Fry,
- 33:55Speaker 1: to his Nixon. So my dad's memories of going to
- 33:58Speaker 1: see Johnny in New York were unbelo Unfortunately, the first
- 34:01Speaker 1: ten years NBC erased almost everything, and Johnny, you know,
- 34:04Speaker 1: was devastated, but thankfully with the Burbank years, but the
- 34:08Speaker 1: New York years were endlessly fascinating.
- 34:11Speaker 2: Yeah, it was actually the best period of Carson. So yeah,
- 34:15Speaker 2: the book is called Love Johnny Carson. We want you
- 34:18Speaker 2: to go to Amazon and order it. Because I knew
- 34:21Speaker 2: everything you can know about Johnny Carson. Then I get
- 34:23Speaker 2: this book, there's like fifteen thousand things I didn't know,
- 34:26Speaker 2: so you'll learn everything in the world about Carson. And
- 34:29Speaker 2: it's such a well written book. It's called Love Johnny Carson.
- 34:33Speaker 2: Go to Amazon and get it.
- 34:35Speaker 1: Oh.
- 34:35Speaker 2: Now, tonight we're having dinner with Jimmy Fayla because he's
- 34:39Speaker 2: a huge Carson fan and he loves your book. So
- 34:41Speaker 2: that'll be aw That's so nice. Yeah, that's it means
- 34:44Speaker 2: a lot to me. I'm looking forward to that. Yeah,
- 34:46Speaker 2: that's going to be a good time for sure. Yeah.
- 34:48Speaker 2: Our boss here, Tom Cuddy, has arranged to take us
- 34:51Speaker 2: to dinner and Jimmy Fayla. He's the closest thing to
- 34:57Speaker 2: Carson right now in television because on Saturday Night, with
- 35:00Speaker 2: a long monologue that's fifty to fifty, he makes fun
- 35:03Speaker 2: of Democrats Republicans, which is what Carson did, right, And
- 35:06Speaker 2: you don't see that anymore, do you.
- 35:07Speaker 1: That's right. I mean Jimmy, Yeah, does a phenomenal job
- 35:10Speaker 1: in models at after Carson, which I really really loved.
- 35:14Speaker 1: But yeah, we never knew Johnny's politics. I mean he
- 35:17Speaker 1: he you know, definitely was friends with George Herbert Walker
- 35:21Speaker 1: Bush and they really got a kick out of one another.
- 35:24Speaker 1: Johnny did stay over at the White House and they
- 35:26Speaker 1: actually talked when Bush was on from Air Force One
- 35:30Speaker 1: and they got a kick out of it. So, I mean,
- 35:31Speaker 1: he did have Bill Clinton on as well when Clinton,
- 35:34Speaker 1: you know, was a you know at the DNC when
- 35:37Speaker 1: he fell on his face and everyone thought Clinton's life
- 35:39Speaker 1: was over, and he played saxophone well before our sineo.
- 35:42Speaker 1: Everybody thinks Clinton went on our sineo it is, you know,
- 35:45Speaker 1: that was the first time he ever did it. But
- 35:46Speaker 1: it was Johnny that made that happen the first time
- 35:49Speaker 1: back in nineteen eighty eight. So yeah, Johnny. We just
- 35:52Speaker 1: never knew his politics, and there was definitely something really
- 35:54Speaker 1: refreshing about that he was. He hammered everybody equally, but
- 35:57Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you knew this guy
- 35:59Speaker 1: was just you know, they were jokes.
- 36:01Speaker 2: Well, it's a great book. I'll see you tonight, Mark Malcoff.
- 36:03Speaker 1: Yeah, looking forward to it.
- 36:04Speaker 2: Everybody, everybody go to Amazon and get the book. It's
- 36:08Speaker 2: called Love, Johnny Carson. You'll love the book Love Johnny
- 36:11Speaker 2: Carson on Amazon. Mark Malcoff, thanks for being with us.
- 36:15Speaker 1: Thank you, siryl see you tonight.
- 36:16Speaker 2: Take care, all right, take care. Yeah, that'll be interesting.
- 36:19Speaker 2: You know, I've actually never met Mark Malcoff. I've talked
- 36:21Speaker 2: to him on the phone a million times. I was
- 36:23Speaker 2: on the podcast a few times. I just realized I've
- 36:26Speaker 2: never actually met him. But we'll do that tonight. And
- 36:29Speaker 2: don't forget Jimmy Fayala is on every night here from
- 36:33Speaker 2: nine to midnight. You can hear him then, and Curtis
- 36:36Speaker 2: Sliwa is on w R now every morning. You can
- 36:39Speaker 2: hear Curtis Sliwa and Larry Menty six to ten. Here
- 36:43Speaker 2: on seven to ten wor Mark on demand by setting
- 36:48Speaker 2: up pre sad for his podcast on.
- 36:50Speaker 1: The iHeartRadio app. Now back to Mark Simon on wor.
- 36:58Speaker 2: Well, the loss of a great shock and a very
- 37:02Speaker 2: close ally friend confidante of President Trump. Big loss in
- 37:07Speaker 2: the Senate for Trump, and it's you can replace him
- 37:11Speaker 2: with a Republican and you don't lose the vote. But
- 37:13Speaker 2: he was more than just a vote. He was the
- 37:16Speaker 2: guy who could run around the Senate and get things
- 37:18Speaker 2: done on behalf of President Trump, even if he needed
- 37:21Speaker 2: to win over some Democrats. It was something Lindsey Graham
- 37:24Speaker 2: was good at. He was from that old school, that
- 37:27Speaker 2: old Tip O'Neill era, where Democrats Republicans would be friends.
- 37:31Speaker 2: You'd go to lunch together, you'd have drinks after work,
- 37:34Speaker 2: you could work with each other. So a big loss.
- 37:37Speaker 2: Who will replace him? President Trump wants Lindsey Graham's sister
- 37:42Speaker 2: to replace him, and it's up to the governor of
- 37:45Speaker 2: South Carolina. I'm a master close ally of President Trump,
- 37:48Speaker 2: so maybe maybe that will happen. We'll have more on
- 37:51Speaker 2: it for you tomorrow. I'll be back tomorrow. Every weekday
- 37:54Speaker 2: ten to noon, so I'll see you then here on
- 37:57Speaker 2: seven to ten. WR