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The Bolt Report | 13 March · The Bolt Report

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Speaker 1: It's the bold reform it.
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Speaker 2: Tonight race politics. White voters claim Labor banned them from
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Speaker 2: a community event last night for only Chinese Australians, and
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Speaker 2: the King reminds Donald Trump Canada is mine. Also tonight,
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Speaker 2: Clive Palmer takes on left wing journalist at the Press
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Speaker 2: Club and he backs Donald Trump for hitting our aluminium
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Speaker 2: imports with a tariff. And you know he actually has
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Speaker 2: a point, plus an amazing response tobil list of academics
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Speaker 2: you say they are Aboriginal when their genealogy suggests they
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Speaker 2: are not, and plenty more as well. But first, that
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Speaker 2: Chris Bard, the energy He tried to fool you today
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Speaker 2: about his clean energy crusade. He told a ridiculous lie
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Speaker 2: or a half truth of whatever you want to call
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Speaker 2: about Why your power bills are going up yet again,
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Speaker 2: Why more heavy industries will be destroyed by this madness
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Speaker 2: from the Albanize government. No wonder he looked sick and embarrassed.
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Speaker 2: Now you have heard already that the strained Energy Regulator
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Speaker 2: is recommended yet another rise in maximum electricity prices, this
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Speaker 2: time up to nearly nine percent in New South Wales,
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Speaker 2: less elsewhere, but still up. In a separate decision. Electricity
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Speaker 2: prices Victoria also going up, although only a little then
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Speaker 2: average of twelve dollars a year for householders, but more
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Speaker 2: for business. And all this means we are paying much
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Speaker 2: much more for electricity than we were three years ago
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Speaker 2: when the Albanizi government with Chris bone actually won on
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Speaker 2: this promise to cut electricity prices, not send them through
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Speaker 2: the roof.
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Speaker 3: Two hunred and seventy five dollars by twenty two seventy five.
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Speaker 1: By twenty twenty five, we stand by.
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Speaker 4: That two hundred and seventy five dollars for households, reducing
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Speaker 4: power prices by two hundred seventy five dollars.
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Speaker 2: Now, the opposition leader was absolutely correct today.
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Speaker 5: I think it's time for Chris Bowe to be sacked.
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Speaker 2: And I've said that for a year and now already,
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Speaker 2: and you've heard me. I mean Bowen and the whole
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Speaker 2: government lied to you back then before the last election.
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Speaker 2: Either that or they had absolutely no idea what they
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Speaker 2: were doing, forcing us to use more and more wind
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Speaker 2: and solar power. So they are now essentially paying for
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Speaker 2: two actoristy systems. They're green one and a fossil fuel
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Speaker 2: one for when there is no wind and no sun,
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Speaker 2: no wonder prices have exploded. Now all this I'm sure
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Speaker 2: you already know. But what you probably don't know is
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Speaker 2: how Chris Boone today again didn't just refuse to admit
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Speaker 2: it's completely stuffed this up. He actually pretended this wasn't
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Speaker 2: the fault of his beloved wind farms and solar farms. No,
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Speaker 2: it was those dumb cold generators.
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Speaker 3: One of the reasons for this decision today is spikes
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Speaker 3: caused by coal fire power stations breaking down.
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Speaker 2: Let me expose his spin. In fact, this is what
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Speaker 2: the Australian Energy Regulated actually did say today. I'll quote
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Speaker 2: it that average wholesale market spot prices increased the Cross
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, impacted by factors such as high demand
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Speaker 2: coal generator network outages. That bits true, but it also
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Speaker 2: went on to say also low solar and wind output.
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Speaker 2: The Bone didn't mention that, did he Oh, not enough
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Speaker 2: in the solar. That's absolutely true that agent generators do
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Speaker 2: sometimes break down need maintenance, particularly when the governments made
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Speaker 2: an uneconomic to invest in them. But the wind and
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Speaker 2: solar power that we are subsidizing with billions of dollars
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Speaker 2: could not make up the difference, but even worse, as
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Speaker 2: you just heard, they're unreliable in their output. Last year
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Speaker 2: there was a bad wind drought, for instance, not enough wind,
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Speaker 2: suddenly less electricity. You can't rely on wind. How often
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Speaker 2: does it need to be said? Now? It's often said
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Speaker 2: it's a truism that the definition of madness is to
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Speaker 2: keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result,
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Speaker 2: which is Chris bart He today promised to actually keep
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Speaker 2: doing what is destroying us our power system, to keep
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Speaker 2: closing coal stations and to make us even more dependent
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Speaker 2: on unreliable wind and solar. He attacked the opposition for
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Speaker 2: actually wanting to keep those col far generators running, even
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Speaker 2: though he just complained that we were short of electricity
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Speaker 2: without them.
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Speaker 3: If you are planning on keeping coal in the grid
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Speaker 3: for longer, that puts upward pressure on prices. Those fundamental
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Speaker 3: facts remain. Now we'll continue with that approach.
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Speaker 2: And that's why Chris b to be sacked, is now
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Speaker 2: so deep in this disaster of his own making that
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Speaker 2: to admit it, would you know, to know our change course,
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Speaker 2: That would be like saying, oh, sorry, I really didn't
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Speaker 2: ever have a clue, sorry about that. Sorry that of
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Speaker 2: course enormous pain for absolutely no good your second, I mean,
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Speaker 2: the man's so out of ideas. I'll tell you what
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Speaker 2: he said today. His plan is actually to keep building
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Speaker 2: more wind and solar, but to pay you back with
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Speaker 2: your own money for the higher prices. He takes your
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Speaker 2: money in taxes and gives it back to you to
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Speaker 2: make you feel better about paying higher electricity prices. It
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Speaker 2: really is that stupid.
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Speaker 3: Our approach of short term relief coupled with the longer
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Speaker 3: term plan is the right plan for Australia.
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Speaker 2: It's like a thief breaking into your home, breaking up
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Speaker 2: all the furniture, destroying the kitchen, slashing the sofa, and
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Speaker 2: then grabbing your wallet and saying, here, let me pay
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Speaker 2: for the damage with your own money. You can't run
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Speaker 2: a country like that. And we're seeing the damage. Our
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Speaker 2: nickel industry already wiped out by higher power prices than
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Speaker 2: you find and say Indonesia they use coal. Our last
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Speaker 2: glass manufacturer of glass for buildings just wiped out this
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Speaker 2: year in part by higher gas prices. Our last big
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Speaker 2: plastics manufacturer wiped out in part by higher energy prices.
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Speaker 5: It's abundantly clear to all Australians now that the government's
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Speaker 5: renewables only energy policy is a disaster for families and
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Speaker 5: for small businesses. There are twenty seven thousand small businesses
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Speaker 5: which have closed their doors over the course of the
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Speaker 5: last two and a half years, and in many cases
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Speaker 5: energy costs will be a contributing factor to the overwhelming
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Speaker 5: circumstances that those businesses found themselves in. Now.
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Speaker 2: The worst pole suggests that Anthony albani is in Crisp
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Speaker 2: will still win the election, just but only with Greens
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Speaker 2: and the Teal independence, all of them claiming extremists helping
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Speaker 2: them to form government. What do you think is going
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Speaker 2: to happen? It means a re elected Labor government would
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Speaker 2: go in even harder than with the global warming policies
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Speaker 2: already crippling us supercharge, this time with the Greens and
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Speaker 2: the Teals making us weak when we most need to
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Speaker 2: be strong. Joining me is scun New's Business editor Ross Greenwood.
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Speaker 2: Ross green will thank you for joining me. Why are
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Speaker 2: power prices going up yet again?
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Speaker 6: It's because of the unreliability of the Australian energy grid
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Speaker 6: on the East Coast. Effectively, it's the reality that the
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Speaker 6: coal fire power stations are less reliable. They do need work.
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Speaker 6: They're eventually going to be phased out. Off found ironic
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Speaker 6: today that the Energy Minister Chris Bowen was talking about
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Speaker 6: the unreliability of these coal fire powers.
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Speaker 7: There's a man who to get rid of them.
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Speaker 6: But without them, the price of electricity would have been
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Speaker 6: many times higher because the reality is that you know,
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Speaker 6: at the moment the grid cannot solely work on renewables.
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Speaker 6: There is not enough gas in the system to even
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Speaker 6: the system out, and so as a result, when you
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Speaker 6: get these periods of either extreme temperature, you're going to
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Speaker 6: get massive spikes in the price and ultimately consumers pay
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Speaker 6: for this. So this is about energy policy, pure and
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Speaker 6: simple that needs to land at the feet of the
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Speaker 6: federal government.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he was a bit dishonest because the
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Speaker 2: energy regulator also went and blamed went on and blamed
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Speaker 2: wind and solar for not producing the goods either, and
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Speaker 2: he didn't mention that, which is interesting. The Avenue government
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Speaker 2: did promise to cut power prices that instead, as everyone knows,
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Speaker 2: they've gone way up. Why do you think the plans
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Speaker 2: have gone so wrong?
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Speaker 6: The reason is because they've coming at it with a
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Speaker 6: philosophical view, a lot of scientific and so The fact
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Speaker 6: of the matter is that they have believed, because they
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Speaker 6: think it is electorally palatable to people that the notion
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Speaker 6: of wind and of solar is going to get people across.
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Speaker 7: The line and look in an ideal world.
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Speaker 6: If the science were there, that may be true, but
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Speaker 6: the reality is that the world is not there yet.
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Speaker 6: The battery technology is not sufficiently there. We haven't been
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Speaker 6: able to build out the hydro projects, the pump hydro projects,
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Speaker 6: to be able to ensure the stability of the grid.
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Speaker 6: And also the fact is that you've got coal fired
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Speaker 6: power stations that are aging, and you've got really a
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Speaker 6: demonization against even new gas projects to try and create
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Speaker 6: more of the gas fired electricity power generators. So all
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Speaker 6: of this is almost a perfect storm by which Australia
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Speaker 6: sees itself short.
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Speaker 7: Of electricity because it is a market.
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Speaker 6: The fact of the matter is when anything is in
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Speaker 6: short supply, the price goes up, and it's not a
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Speaker 6: manager of trying.
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Speaker 2: To that market.
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Speaker 6: You can't do that. A market is a market, and
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Speaker 6: so the prices go to where the demand and the
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Speaker 6: supply is that look to be fair. There are some
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Speaker 6: days when the wind is blowing asunders shining and there's
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Speaker 6: lots of electricity, and electricity prices are negative. They're actually
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Speaker 6: they're paying you to take the electricity away.
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Speaker 7: But that's the extreme.
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Speaker 6: At the other end of the extreme is when it
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Speaker 6: goes many hundreds of times above what is a long
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Speaker 6: term average, and ultimately the average of all of this
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Speaker 6: is what Australian consumers and businesses are paying.
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Speaker 2: I want to go to the new tariff that Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump is imposed on our steel and aluminium cause a
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Speaker 2: huge fast. You know how outrageous it is. And I
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Speaker 2: thought it was a bit of a dog act to
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Speaker 2: do to an ally, but Donald Trump's Commerce secretary has
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Speaker 2: defended them by accusing Australia of dumping our aluminium. Have listen,
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Speaker 2: this is a real blast.
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Speaker 7: We're not going to stand for China dumping, Japan dumping.
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Speaker 8: Australia does a lot of aluminum below cost.
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Speaker 7: I mean, this has got to end.
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Speaker 1: And the President is on it and he's protecting America.
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Speaker 2: Now what's interesting Ross and I think, you know this
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Speaker 2: is a warning to our politicians to face up to
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Speaker 2: how flabby our industry has become and how pamped and conceted.
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Speaker 2: Is that it's absolutely right our governments do subsidize our
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Speaker 2: oliminium smelters, subsidizes for the high energy prices, among other things,
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Speaker 2: and Clive Palmer was right on to it today when
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Speaker 2: he's talking about his new political party trumpet of Patriots
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Speaker 2: and the National Press clublish to this.
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Speaker 9: Trump is probably concerned that other alminium smelters in the
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Speaker 9: United States who don't have a subsidy from the Australian
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Speaker 9: government or from the South Wales government have to compete
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Speaker 9: with them, and the Ethink probably thinks that's not fair.
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Speaker 9: And I think it's not fair either. I think we
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Speaker 9: want industries that really create real wealth. We don't want
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Speaker 9: industries that are subsidies because who's going to pay for
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Speaker 9: the subsidy, it's the taxpayer.
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Speaker 6: Five partner is absolutely right, did he well the years
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Speaker 6: And if you think about the Portland aluminium smeltered at
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Speaker 6: our co oput into Victoria many years ago, which was
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Speaker 6: for export purposes, the reason that got up as a
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Speaker 6: viable opportunity was because of cheap electricity provided largely by
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Speaker 6: the government at a long term government guarantee. But it's
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Speaker 6: always important with these matters when there's emotions flaring to go.
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Speaker 7: To some facts. Here are some facts for you.
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Speaker 6: Last year Australia exported two hundred and twenty three thousand
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Speaker 6: tons of steel to America. Now, the important aspect of
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Speaker 6: this is to recognize that that represented about zero point
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Speaker 6: eight of a percent of the amount of steel that
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Speaker 6: the United States imported, and when it comes toluminium, eighty
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Speaker 6: three thousand sons ofuminium, and broadly that was about something
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Speaker 6: of the order one and a half percent of the
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Speaker 6: amount of aluminium that a meyrior important.
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Speaker 7: And it is true to say that at one point.
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Speaker 6: They did rise, we did start to export a bit more,
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Speaker 6: but really it is a dead set drop in the bucket.
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Speaker 6: So a lot of people have got themselves terribly emotional
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Speaker 6: over what appears to be a slight from Donald Trump
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Speaker 6: to Australia when he has done to every single country
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Speaker 6: in the world and not just singled us out to
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Speaker 6: industries that actually don't send a.
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Speaker 7: Lot of product there.
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Speaker 6: In fact, the steel that goes from Australia to America
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Speaker 6: goes from Woollongong Port Kembler bluescope steel to America to
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Speaker 6: blue Scopes planned in Ohio, where it's then turned basically
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Speaker 6: into roofing calibond, and so from that point of view,
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Speaker 6: let's be honest, this really is a lot of politicians
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Speaker 6: here getting during an election campaign pretty hot under the
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Speaker 6: collar over something that genuinely is not a big issue
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Speaker 6: at all.
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Speaker 2: And I think we should be talking about how is
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Speaker 2: it that our industries are disappearing in this country CERU
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Speaker 2: higher power prices and that is far far more important.
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Speaker 2: Ross Green would always great to talk to you. Thank
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Speaker 2: you so much. Quite okay, now I've got to get
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Speaker 2: back to the wicked damage being done with the governor's
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Speaker 2: global warming religion Chris Bone. Today he was still claiming
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Speaker 2: that he was so sure of what he was doing
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Speaker 2: he would love to debate it.
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Speaker 9: Now.
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Speaker 3: I very much welcome a debate about the competing plans
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Speaker 3: for anyaty prices that will be put before the Australian people
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Speaker 3: the next selection.
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Speaker 2: In fact, Bowen is so scared of debate about the
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Speaker 2: damages doing that he skipped this debate and ports Stevens
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Speaker 2: with the oppositions Ted O'Brien, that's out where locals are
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Speaker 2: furious with Boone's plan for a hideous wind farm off
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Speaker 2: to their coast.
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Speaker 10: The person with whom I was meant to be here
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Speaker 10: tonight to have a good, thorough comprehensive debate.
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Speaker 4: Was this fellow here, the Honorable Chris.
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Speaker 2: Bowen joining me is Thursday regular guests Varnaby Joyce, the
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Speaker 2: National's front bench and formative Deputy Prime Minister. Band to
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Speaker 2: be great to see you again, so you know again
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Speaker 2: today we're reminded of the devastation being caused by labours
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Speaker 2: and net zero policies. I've got to ask, though, what
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Speaker 2: about your own? I mean, where is the opposition When
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Speaker 2: is it going to finally admit that it's own at
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Speaker 2: zero targets are just as irrational and impossible and useless
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Speaker 2: of making the slightest difference to our climate.
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Speaker 8: Well, I think the main thing is where we are
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Speaker 8: on the path to at the moment, which is the
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Speaker 8: apparent twenty thirty by eighty two percent inter mint of power.
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Speaker 9: They're not new.
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Speaker 8: People keep playing them renewables. They're not renewable. Okay, they
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Speaker 8: need a mint of power. And where they are not farms,
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Speaker 8: the need a mint of power. Precincts. Not only do
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Speaker 8: they not want them on the coast off heart of Alliott,
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Speaker 8: we don't want them to get rid of either. We
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Speaker 8: don't want your garbage on our land, either we go
15:51
Speaker 8: put your rubbish in Maringo. If that's where you want it,
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Speaker 8: go put your rubbish it off manly, but don't put
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Speaker 8: them in our seats. And true, it is inevitably true
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Speaker 8: that intermittent power pushes up the price of power. And
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Speaker 8: if you don't believe that, don't listen to Chris, don't
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Speaker 8: listen to outside. Listen to your power bill. Your power
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Speaker 8: bill is going through the roof. And what we are
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Speaker 8: seeing is this debate is not going to be won
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Speaker 8: by the Labor Party, of the Liberal Party, of the
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Speaker 8: National Party, the Teals or anybody else.
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Speaker 2: Is going to be won by physics.
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Speaker 8: When it becomes completely and utterly untenable that you can
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Speaker 8: possibly supply a nation unless you want to live in
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Speaker 8: a cave, unless you want to come out here to
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Speaker 8: danglemar and sleeping the grass there, sleeping the grass amongst
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Speaker 8: the cow many here. That's all right, and that's the
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Speaker 8: type of life you want. You can do that without electricity.
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Speaker 8: But if you want electricity, you have to have base
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Speaker 8: load power. And what we're seeing, even with Penny sharpenings
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Speaker 8: South Wales ice, they're paying to keep the cold fire
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Speaker 8: power stations going, and I think any plan's going to
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Speaker 8: be talking about keeping the caul fire power stations going
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Speaker 8: until such time as you have an alternative. But what
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Speaker 8: mister Barman's doing is saying I'll jump off the cliff
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Speaker 8: and develop a parachute on the weight to the ground.
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Speaker 8: And its just and what's happening absolute and out of chaos,
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Speaker 8: and yet again everybody's become poorer, and yet again your
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Speaker 8: power bills are gone up, and yet again you've given
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Speaker 8: these pathetic, smirky, mealy mouthed excuses from Minister Bone, who
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Speaker 8: would have to be the most unpopular politician in regional Australia,
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Speaker 8: even vastly more unpopular than miss ourb and easy and
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Speaker 8: that I thought was going to be a tough race.
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Speaker 8: But it's not.
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Speaker 2: Badaby. I noticed you have neatly steps sidestep my question
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Speaker 2: about your own net zero target because I know that
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Speaker 2: you think it's an absolute dog as well and don't
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Speaker 2: want to say it and cause embarrassment for the party.
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Speaker 2: But it's just ridiculous. And as for Zari Stegel, you know,
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Speaker 2: the member for a Ringer. She was celebrating no wind
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Speaker 2: farms off the Ringer coaster. They're celebrating, and they've got
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Speaker 2: to be everywhere else got her own, and.
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Speaker 8: Doesn't I just drive you insane, like this whole garbage
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Speaker 8: that we're doing to ourselves, driving our nation into destitution,
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Speaker 8: putting people out in the street is to make Zali
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Speaker 8: and her ilk have you?
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Speaker 2: This was for her.
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Speaker 7: You're doing all this for her.
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Speaker 8: And yet where if you take they will have a
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Speaker 8: little bit in your own backyard. Oh no, it's natural
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Speaker 8: heritage to trust or some other garbage. They have it
18:13
Speaker 8: in your own backyard. Zali, put the transmission lines over.
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Speaker 8: Mossman can stand on your virtue.
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Speaker 2: Look, honestly, this is an urban religion where it's the
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Speaker 2: rural areas that get hit hardest. I mean, this is
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Speaker 2: one of those things you know. It's always the people
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Speaker 2: who live among concrete that think that the plate people
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Speaker 2: in the grasslands they've got to have the wind farms.
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Speaker 2: But not them, Not them. No, No, Tith Palmer is
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Speaker 2: back with the New Party. As you well know, Bannaby,
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Speaker 2: the billionaire there is hitting all the trump buttons in
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Speaker 2: his speech today. What do you make this? Have listened?
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Speaker 9: What's the priority of the Albanezi government? They give one
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Speaker 9: million dollars to food Bank to feed Australians. They give
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Speaker 9: six hundred million dollars the park and you get to
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Speaker 9: have a rugby league team. We've got to wake up
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Speaker 9: in this country and break up what's really happening.
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump and Nela mus could have written that Payer
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Speaker 2: Forum and I don't know, I think it might sell
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Speaker 2: their a message like that. What do you make of it?
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Speaker 2: It'll be a bit careful.
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Speaker 8: Elon Musk and Donald Trump are playing for the United
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Speaker 8: States of America and playing only for the United States
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Speaker 8: of America, and playing a very, very hard game for
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Speaker 8: the United States of America. Our world has changed. Its
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Speaker 8: changed overwhelmingly. The moment of Chinese warship turned up off
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Speaker 8: the case of Sydney. Sydney, where you want all this
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Speaker 8: indemndent power to go to start firing off missiles. It
19:38
Speaker 8: changed the moment the United States America started putting tariffs
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Speaker 8: on Australian d steel in Australian aluminium.
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Speaker 11: We've got to.
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Speaker 8: Realize we are living in a different world and club's
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Speaker 8: a very shrewd, shrewd, shrewd demand. But playing the playing
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Speaker 8: the US playbook in Australia doesn't really work. Because we're
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Speaker 8: probably one of the victims of it, where probably who's
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Speaker 8: going to be hurt by it. I don't know whether
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Speaker 8: we want to completely play by it.
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Speaker 2: Last night, Barnaby and I'm talking to an expert in
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Speaker 2: these matters. I showed the American influencer who stole the
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Speaker 2: baby wan Batter joe from its mother. The poor animal
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Speaker 2: try to chase them with the Joey squealing in distressful Listen, look.
20:22
Speaker 7: At the mother.
20:23
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, says an after thank that's true. The
20:31
Speaker 2: influencer did give the baby back, but imigretor Minister Tony
20:35
Speaker 2: Burks is looking at canceling a visa, acting faster on
20:38
Speaker 2: her than he has on our hate preachers. You're an
20:41
Speaker 2: expert in this area because as Agriculture minister, you told
20:44
Speaker 2: that that Johnny Depp and his then wife to remove
20:46
Speaker 2: their dogs Pistol and Boo that they brought in without
20:49
Speaker 2: quarantining them, or you'd kill them, I mean the dogs,
20:53
Speaker 2: Johnny Depp, what would you say in this.
20:55
Speaker 8: Matter's clown class one clown? I mean, I look either
21:01
Speaker 8: about the country where you know we do have to
21:03
Speaker 8: cul kangaro as, we do have to shoot rabbitson and
21:06
Speaker 8: we don't like it. We don't like doing unnecessarily cruel
21:10
Speaker 8: things unless we have to, unless it's absolutely imperative as
21:14
Speaker 8: part of the management process. But running up to a
21:17
Speaker 8: warm bat and stealing, it's stealing. It's basically it's it's
21:21
Speaker 8: joey and running off with a gigglings.
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Speaker 12: No, you don't do that. And look, I worked with
21:27
Speaker 12: some pretty tough fellas and I don't know. We'd never
21:30
Speaker 12: go through our head, So why did it go through hers?
21:33
Speaker 12: It's just a clown.
21:36
Speaker 2: I don't get it. Yeah, but the guy laughing had
21:40
Speaker 2: an Australian accent as so far as I could make out. Well,
21:47
Speaker 2: temparade the clowns to the left of us, joke us
21:50
Speaker 2: to the right, Barnaby Joyce, I'm stuck in the middle
21:52
Speaker 2: with you, Thank you so much. Indeed, before the break,
21:57
Speaker 2: a quick update yesterday reported that Donald Trump had got
21:59
Speaker 2: you Ukraine to agree to cease fire in the war
22:02
Speaker 2: against the Russian invaders there, And I said, now comes
22:06
Speaker 2: the hard part, you know, bullying Ukraine into this easy,
22:10
Speaker 2: getting the Russian president and war croneal Vladimir Putin to agree.
22:14
Speaker 2: Pune's response to a ceasefire offer has been to where
22:19
Speaker 2: army camouflage, which is very unusual for him, and a
22:22
Speaker 2: flat jacket and go visit his soldiers in Kurse. That's
22:26
Speaker 2: the little bit of Russia that Ukraine is captured, hoping
22:29
Speaker 2: to negotiate some of its own territory back later. He
22:32
Speaker 2: is wanting his army to keep fighting to get it
22:35
Speaker 2: all back. No cease fire. Donald Trump this morning said
22:38
Speaker 2: he hadn't yet spoken to Putin, but did send him
22:40
Speaker 2: a threat.
22:42
Speaker 13: There are things you could do that wouldn't be pleasant.
22:45
Speaker 13: In a financial sense. I can do things financially that
22:48
Speaker 13: would be very bad for Russia. I don't want to
22:50
Speaker 13: do that because I want to get peace. I want
22:52
Speaker 13: to see peace and we'll see. But in a financial sense, yeah,
22:56
Speaker 13: we could do things very bad for Russia.
22:58
Speaker 2: Would be devastated for Russia. But if Trump actually does
23:01
Speaker 2: now show the world that the real problem here is
23:04
Speaker 2: not Ukraine or President Zelenski, it is Vladimir Putin and Russia,
23:10
Speaker 2: then Trump will have done a lot of good. Now
23:16
Speaker 2: after the break, oh, I should actually show you about
23:18
Speaker 2: that influencer stealing the joey. I've got to give the
23:23
Speaker 2: Prime minister some credit. He actually had a good line
23:25
Speaker 2: on that today have looked.
23:27
Speaker 4: I suggest to this so called influencer, maybe she might
23:32
Speaker 4: try some other Australian animals. Take a baby crocodile from
23:36
Speaker 4: its mother and see how you go there. Take another
23:40
Speaker 4: animal that can actually fight.
23:42
Speaker 2: Back after the break. A labor event for Chinese voters,
23:46
Speaker 2: we're way to Australian say they were turned back. The
23:49
Speaker 2: footage is amazing. There was something very odd, very divisive
23:58
Speaker 2: about a labor event at box Hill. Box Hill is
24:01
Speaker 2: very Chinese area of Melbourne's almost a colony, you could say,
24:04
Speaker 2: I mean thirty nine percent Chinese ancestry and labor. Held
24:08
Speaker 2: an information note for voters of the box the town
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Speaker 2: hall featuring foreigners the piny Wong Chinese descent. A former
24:15
Speaker 2: premier Dan Andrews the only premier to sign up so
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Speaker 2: the Communist China's controversial Belton Road initiative. A booking site
24:21
Speaker 2: described it as a Chinese town hall. Andrew seems to
24:25
Speaker 2: have canceled last minute. But here's the odd thing. Some locals,
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Speaker 2: not Chinese, claim they were shut out.
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Speaker 14: I'm not going to sign in and get my details,
24:35
Speaker 14: and I'm here to you know, I've got this in
24:37
Speaker 14: the mail bombs about it.
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Speaker 7: So you go this in the mail? Are you local?
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Speaker 9: Yes?
24:41
Speaker 7: So that Matt macgregg, so I also written here.
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Speaker 5: To speaking here.
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Speaker 10: There you go, and they still aren't living in to
24:47
Speaker 10: see what he's got to say.
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Speaker 7: Unbelievable.
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Speaker 15: So locals are getting these in the mail and they're
24:51
Speaker 15: coming here, registering their name, registering their dress, talking to
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Speaker 15: the police, not being allowed any closed doors.
24:58
Speaker 2: Now people said, oh, the pl say that these people
25:01
Speaker 2: had invalid tickets and thing really now, I should add
25:05
Speaker 2: there were also protests outside the event, people worried by communists,
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Speaker 2: China's attempts to mobilize voters here, and even some white
25:13
Speaker 2: nationalists were there, although there was absolutely no violence, threats
25:15
Speaker 2: for abuse, I could make out at least John Miss
25:19
Speaker 2: Chris de Broner, who's activist news site Chris Curries, filmed
25:23
Speaker 2: that confrontation and they focus on Chinese companist influence here.
25:29
Speaker 2: Chris de Broner, thank you so much, indeed for your time.
25:31
Speaker 2: What happened there? From what you know? Why were some
25:34
Speaker 2: people excluded?
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Speaker 1: One group got in one group didn't?
25:39
Speaker 16: Depends on how you got your tickets, whether it was
25:40
Speaker 16: through w Chat, depends on how you looked.
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Speaker 1: The Labor Party has to answer this.
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Speaker 16: They were the organizers of this event, which it seemed
25:46
Speaker 16: like if you brought it through tribbooking, an English language site,
25:49
Speaker 16: you were closely scrutinied and assessed whether there are seats available.
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Speaker 1: If you got it through we chat, no problem.
25:55
Speaker 16: In fact, even without tickets at all, there were multiple
25:58
Speaker 16: different people that my reported down there able to capture
26:01
Speaker 16: that got in without being checked in any way whatsoever.
26:03
Speaker 16: I don't know why, but the answers didn't add up.
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Speaker 2: Now we Chat, of course, as a Chinese based website,
26:14
Speaker 2: there have been some concerns about the security. It's a government,
26:20
Speaker 2: no doubt, will be all over we Chat controlling that
26:22
Speaker 2: the Chinese government Chinese language, it seems to have been
26:27
Speaker 2: very much slanted to allowing in Chinese voters, but not
26:34
Speaker 2: so much if you were Chinese. That seems to have
26:38
Speaker 2: been an issue with the number of people your people interviewed.
26:41
Speaker 16: Right A town hall specifically set up for the Chinese community,
26:46
Speaker 16: hosted by former Premier Daniel Andrews, with close links with
26:50
Speaker 16: multiple visits of China, not well scrutinized, and the Foreign
26:53
Speaker 16: Minister manages to have time for this event as well
26:56
Speaker 16: advertisements that went out exclusively that I could find only
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Speaker 16: in Chinese language and only people who responded through wichat
27:02
Speaker 16: and were verified by wichat, So their profile has got
27:05
Speaker 16: security verified through their Wichat profile. Well, look, you put
27:09
Speaker 16: all of these pieces together and you end up with
27:11
Speaker 16: what so many attendees there said. This is racial profiling,
27:15
Speaker 16: This is racism. This is Chinese people who seem to
27:18
Speaker 16: be allowed in, but anyone who doesn't look Chinese or
27:20
Speaker 16: the wrong type doesn't get allowed in. The Labor Party
27:23
Speaker 16: organized this event. The Labor Party has to answer this.
27:25
Speaker 16: And the Labor Party organizers there, as you saw so
27:27
Speaker 16: many times, were so dismissive, looking away, drinking, laughing with
27:31
Speaker 16: each other when people were actually being quite polite and
27:33
Speaker 16: asking these questions. There was a ruckus outside, but the
27:37
Speaker 16: questions need to be answered by the organizers of this event.
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Speaker 1: They're responsible for it.
27:43
Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned the ruckus outside. Could it have been
27:46
Speaker 2: that the organizers thought, oh, you know, we don't want
27:48
Speaker 2: to let in people that might cause a fuss inside.
27:52
Speaker 1: Then why weren't the police worried about it?
27:54
Speaker 16: Because there's multiple videos that I've published which include a
27:57
Speaker 16: police officer walking over to the protests to check every
28:00
Speaker 16: things are okay, and then the protester a laughing and
28:02
Speaker 16: saying no worries. The police needed them to move in
28:04
Speaker 16: a certain direction. That was happy to I cover protests.
28:07
Speaker 16: I cover riots.
28:08
Speaker 1: If you have protesters who are going to cause a problem, they.
28:10
Speaker 16: Don't do what police asked, they don't laugh in spianshet yeah.
28:14
Speaker 1: No worries.
28:14
Speaker 2: We'll move over here.
28:15
Speaker 1: Yeah no, always will go over there. They start arguing
28:18
Speaker 1: with the police.
28:18
Speaker 16: And that's where as Nigel Faraj ended up with a
28:21
Speaker 16: protest which could not be controlled, he ended up with
28:24
Speaker 16: the bill of that.
28:24
Speaker 1: I somehow don't think the Labor Party is going to
28:26
Speaker 1: get a bill from Vicpol for this event tonight.
28:30
Speaker 2: It's interesting. It's not just the racial profiling that I
28:35
Speaker 2: think will upset or the apparent racial profiling that will
28:39
Speaker 2: upset a lot of people. But I think you wouldn't
28:42
Speaker 2: have been there just for that. You would have been
28:44
Speaker 2: there given your concern with the Commonist Party influence in Australia,
28:50
Speaker 2: and particularly the influence exerted through some in the Chinese community.
28:56
Speaker 2: Is that the bit that got.
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Speaker 1: You absolutely absolutely.
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Speaker 16: It often tends to be people in the Chinese community
29:02
Speaker 16: who reach him out to me with tips, which is
29:04
Speaker 16: why I sent a reporter to go and grab news
29:07
Speaker 16: from this, because I knew that as soon as Daniel
29:09
Speaker 16: Andrews comes out, that is an absolute firestorm. He's been very,
29:14
Speaker 16: very suspicious in his dealings with China, and I don't
29:18
Speaker 16: mean about business.
29:18
Speaker 1: I'm talking about political influence and.
29:20
Speaker 16: This is people within the Chinese community who are concerned
29:23
Speaker 16: about it as well.
29:24
Speaker 1: This is not a black, white Chinese, not Chinese. This
29:27
Speaker 1: is not a racial issue.
29:29
Speaker 16: Political influence from abroad wherever it's coming from, it from
29:33
Speaker 16: Moody or be it from further Afield, is of concern
29:36
Speaker 16: to people who are here who may have hailed from
29:38
Speaker 16: that country once but are now Australians. Is that what
29:41
Speaker 16: the Labor Party is trying to pursue here, which is
29:43
Speaker 16: we are now Australians or are they trying to win
29:46
Speaker 16: certain segments of donor groups which so many times have
29:49
Speaker 16: been caught with hands in the jar. Here in New
29:51
Speaker 16: South Wales we had bags of cash linked to Quang
29:54
Speaker 16: Zamo and deported influence agents. This is what the Labor
29:58
Speaker 16: Party needs to deal with to try and do better
30:01
Speaker 16: and not hold events like this which lead them open
30:04
Speaker 16: to criticism or they're fine with it and they're happy
30:07
Speaker 16: to court this.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's all the more reason I would have thought
30:12
Speaker 2: to open these political meetings at a community hall, mind you,
30:17
Speaker 2: a town hall to all Australians and not just the
30:20
Speaker 2: one particular segment that you're pitching to. I think that's
30:25
Speaker 2: very important. Chris the Browner, thank you so much indeed
30:27
Speaker 2: for your time.
30:29
Speaker 1: Thanks Andrew.
30:31
Speaker 2: I mean asked Labor for a response to what we're
30:33
Speaker 2: talking about there, and Esposeman gave a very non responsive answer.
30:36
Speaker 2: Really said this event was organized as part of Labour's
30:39
Speaker 2: outreach of the Chinese community to understand their concerns ahead
30:43
Speaker 2: of the federal election. Connecting with multicultural communities is normal
30:47
Speaker 2: and important for any political party. After the break on Tuesday,
30:53
Speaker 2: I named seven university academics who say they're Aborigines when
30:57
Speaker 2: their records apparently say they are not. Reaction amazes me.
31:05
Speaker 2: I would have follow up in something I showed you
31:07
Speaker 2: on Tuesday, because this really is a scandal. You would
31:10
Speaker 2: think that if I showed seven academics from Australian universities
31:15
Speaker 2: who seem to have wrongly claimed they were Aborigines and
31:19
Speaker 2: some actually having jobs apparently for Aborigines, the universities would
31:24
Speaker 2: at least ask questions or prove me wrong. Universities are
31:29
Speaker 2: in the truth business, aren't they. Well, let me show
31:32
Speaker 2: you the seven again, and let me be clear, I
31:34
Speaker 2: am not not accusing them of lying. They may just
31:38
Speaker 2: have been mistaken about being averaged. Maybe they trusted the
31:41
Speaker 2: stories of their mum or I might be mistaken. In fact,
31:45
Speaker 2: professional genealogists the document exposed dot org website have written
31:49
Speaker 2: to them. I have written to them most of them too,
31:53
Speaker 2: saying well, look, you know, genealogical records we've found show
31:56
Speaker 2: you don't have a single average and answers that we
31:58
Speaker 2: might be wrongly show us where and we've had no
32:01
Speaker 2: response and no substantive response legal threats. So that's about it.
32:04
Speaker 2: So here again, other seven Aboriginal academics. You say they're original,
32:08
Speaker 2: and the evidence I have say they're not. And silence
32:11
Speaker 2: crickets from the universities.
32:14
Speaker 8: And I said to the guy as hell, yeah I'm Aboriginal.
32:16
Speaker 2: Yeah that's that's fine. My mom and my nan have
32:19
Speaker 2: told us. And he told me, well, no, you can't tick
32:22
Speaker 2: that box, he says, because you're not you know, you're
32:24
Speaker 2: too wi.
32:25
Speaker 17: This Aboriginal in the denial of the white to be
32:29
Speaker 17: recognized on our own land.
32:31
Speaker 10: The real world is not a safe place for Indigenous people.
32:35
Speaker 3: Aboriginal Australians not only invented bread, they also invented society.
32:42
Speaker 17: But I want to welcome you by singing a song
32:46
Speaker 17: that Pamelway wrote next slide, so that you can sing
32:49
Speaker 17: this song.
32:49
Speaker 1: Of welcome wherever you go.
32:51
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna.
32:53
Speaker 11: Up my clapsticks.
32:55
Speaker 8: Blah, but mom, I'm going to wear and gorner.
32:59
Speaker 3: I'm from the demand and as I've said, the Gamarigl
33:02
Speaker 3: are the people from this country and this is our
33:05
Speaker 3: traditional lands.
33:06
Speaker 1: I'm Narragu. I'm from the snowy mountains in southeastern Australia.
33:11
Speaker 11: That's my mob.
33:13
Speaker 2: Now. Tuesday also showed you another twelve academics, again Australian universities,
33:18
Speaker 2: who also identify as Aboriginal. But I am not saying
33:21
Speaker 2: these twelve have no Aboriginal ancestors. Some in fact, I'm
33:25
Speaker 2: certain they do. I know. I'm just saying that, given
33:28
Speaker 2: their other obvious non Aboriginal ancestry and also their success,
33:32
Speaker 2: why do these academics also stress their aboriginality is relevant
33:37
Speaker 2: to their job. Why did so many academics have their
33:40
Speaker 2: careers in some way invested it's saying they are aboriginal
33:43
Speaker 2: when they obviously also have a lot of non aboriginal ancestors. Well,
33:49
Speaker 2: joining me is Roger Cargesh. He's the head of dark
33:52
Speaker 2: emu exposed dot org, whose genealogists have investigated that the
33:56
Speaker 2: first seven academics I showed you, Roger. Always great to
33:59
Speaker 2: see you know, those first seven academics, they say they're aboriginal.
34:05
Speaker 2: Genealogical records, As far as we can tell the show,
34:07
Speaker 2: they're not. No averaginal ancestry. Don't universities make their own checks,
34:12
Speaker 2: especially being promoting or hiring academics on the basis of
34:16
Speaker 2: their supposed race.
34:20
Speaker 15: Well you'd think they would, Andrew, But I'll just tell
34:23
Speaker 15: you what's happening. I got indirectly contacted by a major
34:27
Speaker 15: Australian university who've got a professor who they think is
34:31
Speaker 15: a fake, and they want me to do the genealogy
34:34
Speaker 15: to work out if they are a fake. And I
34:37
Speaker 15: assume that they would confront them with that and get
34:39
Speaker 15: rid of them.
34:40
Speaker 11: So this is a major university.
34:42
Speaker 15: They turn over hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars,
34:45
Speaker 15: and they want a little person like me to do
34:47
Speaker 15: the genealogy for them for free so they can then
34:51
Speaker 15: give it to their HR department to go and challenge
34:54
Speaker 15: this academic.
34:55
Speaker 11: These people are just unbelievably incompetent.
35:01
Speaker 2: They could simply ask for someone the person claiming their
35:06
Speaker 2: aboriginal the first proof themselves. How hard is it to
35:09
Speaker 2: actually do that to prove you are Aboriginal, or for
35:12
Speaker 2: a university to check, other than to make you do
35:14
Speaker 2: thousands of dollars of free research for.
35:16
Speaker 11: Them, It's very easy, Edrew.
35:19
Speaker 15: I think on an earlier program I showed you what
35:21
Speaker 15: working class Aboriginal people have to do.
35:24
Speaker 11: This is from one of my contacts.
35:25
Speaker 15: I don't think you can see it, but he wanted
35:28
Speaker 15: to send his kids to TAFE and so he got
35:31
Speaker 15: this genealogy done for free by the New South Wales
35:34
Speaker 15: NTS Corps. And they've got all the records or the
35:37
Speaker 15: Aboriginal records, so they did it for him. Fifteen weeks
35:39
Speaker 15: later they do the family tree for him and they
35:42
Speaker 15: give him a letter that says, you know, there you are.
35:45
Speaker 15: You're approved that we've confirmed your Aboriginal ancestry. So that's
35:50
Speaker 15: what working class people have to do to get their
35:52
Speaker 15: kids into tape, which is you know it's difficult, but
35:55
Speaker 15: you know fair enough.
35:56
Speaker 11: But academics they're in a different league of their own.
36:00
Speaker 15: Example, I think I mentioned on one of your programs,
36:02
Speaker 15: Professor Bromwin Carlson. We under freedom of information, we got
36:06
Speaker 15: her application form for the Statter Award and she has
36:09
Speaker 15: to satisfy them she's aboriginal. And there's two categories. You
36:13
Speaker 15: can either provide a confirmation of aboriginality. She didn't tick
36:16
Speaker 15: that box, but then she provided two referees, which are
36:20
Speaker 15: meant to be culturally appropriate. So, like I said last time,
36:24
Speaker 15: she just got two friends from down the pub who
36:26
Speaker 15: are culturally appropriate.
36:27
Speaker 11: Tick the box and there's the referees.
36:29
Speaker 15: And that's what the university accept And it's so easy
36:33
Speaker 15: for a university to do what we do. Say to
36:35
Speaker 15: a person, this is a senior role for an aboriginal.
36:39
Speaker 15: We want you to go and get a genealogist to
36:43
Speaker 15: do your family tree and we'll be happy with that.
36:46
Speaker 11: Can't be harder than that.
36:47
Speaker 2: Now, when you said, too, when you said two friends
36:50
Speaker 2: down the pub to do it, are you're speaking obviously metaphorically,
36:53
Speaker 2: but lawyers don't think in metaphors, so I'll just stress
36:56
Speaker 2: it for them. It's metaphorically. They could be very nice people,
37:00
Speaker 2: very good people. But the point is when you ask
37:02
Speaker 2: for the freedom of information, as you can see the
37:05
Speaker 2: big black boxes redacted, so we don't know who they were.
37:10
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter, Roger.
37:13
Speaker 15: It matters a lot, Andrew, because the public have to
37:16
Speaker 15: be assured that we have trust in our institutions. So
37:21
Speaker 15: Australia is a unique country. There's not many countries in
37:24
Speaker 15: the world where you have trust. You know, you're going
37:26
Speaker 15: to a supermarket, you buy a product, you trust that
37:29
Speaker 15: there's all the people in the background making sure the
37:32
Speaker 15: quality is done. You're going to eat the product, You're
37:34
Speaker 15: not going to die. We've got regulations and everything for that.
37:37
Speaker 15: So our whole society has been able to progress to
37:40
Speaker 15: the brilliant state that is in in Australia because we
37:43
Speaker 15: have this commodity called trust. Millions of millions of people
37:47
Speaker 15: live in countries where there is no trust.
37:49
Speaker 11: You can't trust anyone.
37:51
Speaker 15: So these people are not satisfying the public that they
37:55
Speaker 15: have trust. We're losing our trust that they've been selling
37:59
Speaker 15: the truth about their jobs. Or they're not confirming it,
38:02
Speaker 15: And that's the problem. It really does matter because now
38:06
Speaker 15: everyone's getting suspicious. And once everyone gets suspicious, then you
38:10
Speaker 15: don't trust. I mean, if this academic says they're Aboriginal
38:14
Speaker 15: and they're not, how can I trust what they're saying
38:17
Speaker 15: to the students. How can I trust their research? How
38:19
Speaker 15: can I trust their scholarship? And everything goes into doubt.
38:23
Speaker 15: That's the problem.
38:25
Speaker 2: Well, we saw that with Bruce Pasco. In fact, you
38:28
Speaker 2: can't trust this scholarship at all. Has claimed that averages
38:31
Speaker 2: were actually farmers, not hunt gatherers. I mean exactly. University
38:36
Speaker 2: is supposed to be in the truth business, and if
38:38
Speaker 2: they can't even tell the truth about themselves, then what
38:42
Speaker 2: else are they not telling the truth about Roger car
38:45
Speaker 2: I mean, you've done unbelievable work, so fascinating. I recommend
38:50
Speaker 2: people go to your website darkimuexposed dot org and see
38:54
Speaker 2: the results of some of it. Thank you so much, indeed,
38:57
Speaker 2: for your time. After the break, the King takes on
39:03
Speaker 2: Donald Trump over Canada, says it's mine Donald Clive Palmer
39:14
Speaker 2: is back with a new party. If ind in left
39:16
Speaker 2: wing journalists everywhere today, For instance, he ran a front
39:20
Speaker 2: page ad ad on the very lift wing age newspaper
39:23
Speaker 2: in Melbourne. There are only two genders, male and female.
39:27
Speaker 2: Was so outraged the staff that they ran an editorial
39:31
Speaker 2: right above it calling him names, They take his money
39:34
Speaker 2: and then they call him a persistent wart on the
39:37
Speaker 2: foot of Australian politics, which is very odd metaphor. I
39:40
Speaker 2: think writing talent has has disappeared at that paper. Left
39:43
Speaker 2: wing journals seemed almost disgusted today at the National Press
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Speaker 2: Club to even have Calve Palmer there and didn't have
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Speaker 2: Clive have fun with them.
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Speaker 14: You're not really getting any solid political power out of this.
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Speaker 14: People aren't really enjoying your television as your spam text
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Speaker 14: messages and so forth.
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Speaker 7: What is it all about?
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Speaker 14: I mean, I mean, like obviously it's just about to
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Speaker 14: have opportunities like this well for at the Press Club
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Speaker 14: or in television.
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Speaker 9: Adept me just answer your questions because there's a lot there.
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Speaker 9: First of all, I understand I agree with you that
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Speaker 9: people from the Guardian readers are not enjoying our ads
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Speaker 9: at all, and I can understand that.
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Speaker 2: Joining me is James McPherson from the Late Debate here
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Speaker 2: on scar News at ten o'clock and Evyden Ray Farmer,
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Speaker 2: former policewoman, Sky News regular, all round, good sort. Thank
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Speaker 2: you so much to you both, James, Clive Palmer was
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Speaker 2: one good thing. He gives entertainment on the on the stump,
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Speaker 2: although he does keep us. I have to say discussing company,
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Speaker 2: the conspiracy kook and putin fanboor attack of Carlson is
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Speaker 2: going to help him promote the party. But do you
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Speaker 2: think he'll do well here as a mini Trump? Bunny
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Speaker 2: Joyce said.
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Speaker 17: No, Andrew, I'm not sure I would describe Clive Palmer
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Speaker 17: as a mini anything. He's bigger than life. As a
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Speaker 17: mini Trump, I don't know. Look, he shares in common
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Speaker 17: with Donald Trump that he's very wealthy and he's a disruptor,
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Speaker 17: but I think he lacks Trump's flair, Trump's ability to organize.
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Speaker 17: Certainly he lacks Trump's leadership, as demonstrated by the fact
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Speaker 17: in twenty thirteen Palmer's United Australia Party won six percent
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Speaker 17: of the national vote. But they've never been able to
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Speaker 17: build on that. And so I just don't think Clive Palmer,
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Speaker 17: for all the entertainment, he just doesn't have the leadership
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Speaker 17: to organize anything. That's going to make a difference nationally
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Speaker 17: to those newspaper ads. I mean, good on him for
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Speaker 17: being able to run them. What Clive Palmer does is
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Speaker 17: he's able to expose quite ruthlessly the hypocrisy of the left.
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Speaker 17: I mean he offended them greatly by saying that there
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Speaker 17: are two genders. The Age accused him of being divisive
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Speaker 17: and then called him a wart. Well tell me what
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Speaker 17: is more divisive, Andrews saying that there's mail and email
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Speaker 17: or calling somebody a wart.
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Speaker 2: So true, Evelyn. Look, just on that Trump style pitch.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's lines that are Trump's style, but I
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Speaker 2: wonder if they would actually work here, and I'll give
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Speaker 2: you one of them. Here's one of the things he said, what's.
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Speaker 9: The priority of the Albanezi government. They give one million
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Speaker 9: dollars to Food Bank to feed Australians. They give six
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Speaker 9: hundred million dollars to PARPU in New Guinea to have
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Speaker 9: a rugby league team. We've got to wake up in
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Speaker 9: this country and wreak up what's really happening.
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Speaker 2: What do you think, Evelyn?
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Speaker 7: Look, I hate to say it, but where's the lie.
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Speaker 10: There is none. I guess that's the difference between Clive
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Speaker 10: and our politicians currently in power. At least Clive's telling
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Speaker 10: the truth. I mean, you can't fault him for that.
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Speaker 10: I really do think Australians are losing so much faith
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Speaker 10: with our uniparty system.
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Speaker 7: I mean, that's what it is.
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Speaker 10: Let's call a spade a spade, because at the moment, sadly,
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Speaker 10: the Liberals aren't much different from Labor their labor light.
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Speaker 10: And I think that, you know, although Clive is most
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Speaker 10: certainly not a Trump or a mini Trump, what he's
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Speaker 10: doing is very intelligent in that he's kind of, you know,
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Speaker 10: doing a Stephen Bradbury in a way. He's coming in,
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Speaker 10: you know, on the coattails of Trump and honing into
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Speaker 10: something that Trump brings that we all have envy of,
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Speaker 10: which is a leader who is just going to call
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Speaker 10: a spade a spade and call the truth the truth.
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Speaker 7: So good on him for that.
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Speaker 10: But what I would love to see is these right
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Speaker 10: wing parties form some kind of coalition. I know there's
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Speaker 10: been talk about this going on, and I think that's
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Speaker 10: incredibly smart because perhaps that is exactly the sort of
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Speaker 10: pressure that the Liberal Party need right now, and maybe
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Speaker 10: in doing so, not only will we get some really
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Speaker 10: good freedom fighting advocates in you know, our powerful positions.
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Speaker 10: But it will hope fully give a kick up the
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Speaker 10: butt to our liberal party who most certainly need it now.
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Speaker 10: I mean, who the heck at this point in time
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Speaker 10: is advising Dutton because I'd like to sack them, and
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Speaker 10: maybe Clive can be Dutton's advisory. At this point, anything
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Speaker 10: is better than what we're getting, and you know, I
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Speaker 10: just think it's about time.
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Speaker 7: Somebody does it.
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Speaker 10: And maybe Clive is just going to be the you know,
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Speaker 10: break the ice for that.
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Speaker 2: We shall see. There's how the parts of his agenda
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Speaker 2: I'm not so sure about. Meanwhile, Donald Trump himself James
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Speaker 2: might be getting into bigger fights than he probably wants,
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Speaker 2: particularly given his reverence for the royal family in Britain.
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Speaker 2: I have to say his pole numbers people. If Trump
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Speaker 2: fans won't like to hear it, but they have fallen
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Speaker 2: even more because of the chaos over the year, tariffs
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Speaker 2: and all that, and now the King has even weighed
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Speaker 2: in in a very understated way because Trump has been
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Speaker 2: telling Canada he wants it to become America's fifty first
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Speaker 2: state and he may be even crush its car industry
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Speaker 2: to get it. The King is now reminded Trump indirectly
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Speaker 2: that he is the King of Canada as well and
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Speaker 2: has a great affection for Canada. Trump versus the King,
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Speaker 2: who would win?
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Speaker 17: Is that a serious question? Andrew two things. Firstly, why
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Speaker 17: would America ever annex Canada. No one believes this is
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Speaker 17: going to happen. Canada has a lower income per head
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Speaker 17: of population than Mississippi, which is the lowest income per
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Speaker 17: head of population in all of the fifty states. In addition,
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Speaker 17: why would Trump want to import a nation that is
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Speaker 17: so left wing? He's got nothing to gain by that.
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Speaker 17: It's all just trolling. But as for the King, I mean,
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Speaker 17: do the Canadians really think that he'll defend them? The
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Speaker 17: King's not defending British values. Just the other day, of course,
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Speaker 17: we saw the King who's meant to be the defender
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Speaker 17: of the faith, that is, the Church of England promoting
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Speaker 17: Ramadan for the Muslim community. Anyone who's putting their faith
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Speaker 17: in King Charles to stand for anything other than you know,
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Speaker 17: net zero and globalization has got rocks in their head.
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Speaker 2: That said, Evelyn, Trump has mentioned it about well, I
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Speaker 2: don't know how often that he'd like to have Canada,
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Speaker 2: and I think he'd rather love to be the president
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Speaker 2: of the Left of America bigger than it was when
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Speaker 2: he got it. What do you make of it?
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Speaker 10: Look, I'm happy to volunteer Australia. I don't know about
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Speaker 10: you guys, but like I mean, why don't we offer
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Speaker 10: Trump out lovely little island.
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Speaker 7: Here at this point in time?
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Speaker 1: I'd be happy.
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Speaker 10: But look, you know it's been tried and tested before,
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Speaker 10: hasn't it. It didn't end for the monarch too well about
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Speaker 10: two hundred and fifty years ago, I did it, So
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Speaker 10: I don't think it would end so well this way
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Speaker 10: for poor old Charles h.
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Speaker 7: As James said, though I.
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Speaker 2: Saw him those subjects well, I actually saw Poles saying
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Speaker 2: that the Canadians, because of these attacks from Donald Trump,
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Speaker 2: now tend to want to be men of the European Union.
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Speaker 2: You believe that? So there you go. And I suspect
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Speaker 2: that Donald Trump is adding to Anthony Albanez's poll numbers,
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Speaker 2: which is a scary thought. Evlyon Ray Jameson Furson, thank
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Speaker 2: you very much to you both. Now for one last thing,
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Speaker 2: my big tip, my big tip to this week is
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Speaker 2: on Netflix actually a mini series and one of my
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Speaker 2: all time favorite books, The Leopard, a novel about a
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Speaker 2: Sicilian prince written by a real Sicilian prince, Giuseppe Tamarsi
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Speaker 2: di Lampaduzza. You watch it in Italian, don't do the
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Speaker 2: dubbed version, watch with subtitles. It's not just that this
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Speaker 2: is a really lusciously shot and acted mini series, but
47:43
Speaker 2: it is a mini series and perhaps the greatest conservative
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Speaker 2: novel ever written, and very moving one too, very rich
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Speaker 2: in knowledge of humanity. It's about how to deal with
47:54
Speaker 2: change and revolution, in this case, how Italy was invaded
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Speaker 2: by Garibaldi and made part of the new bright Italian nation.
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Speaker 7: Has Ergie took a.
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Speaker 8: Lasta nostra vanita happy fort and it was yes, yes,
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Speaker 8: ergy to record, And.
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Speaker 2: It's how princess like the Leopard had to deal with
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Speaker 2: the rise of jackals, like the mayor who was armed
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Speaker 2: with the beautifully, faithfully beautiful daughter. Nothing can replaced the
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Speaker 2: novel itself, The Leopard, which you can as always ordered
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Speaker 2: all my tips so far right there. The one thing
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Speaker 2: about that mini series it throws away one of the
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Speaker 2: great lines, you know, for things to say as they are.
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Speaker 2: Everything must change. That's it for me. Sherry Maxon up
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Speaker 2: next good Night,