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- 0:03No ID is meant for a sane audience. No ID may
- 0:08contain Liberty -oriented content. PINCO discretion
- 0:12is advised. Now, here's No ID with Paul Banducci
- 0:19and Scott Moskowitz. Well, it almost happened
- 0:24again. We almost started doing the show, but
- 0:26this time we caught ourselves and hit the record
- 0:28button. It's North Idaho's mainstream media deconstruction.
- 0:31I'm Scott. Hello internet, I'm Paul. Yeah. Yeah,
- 0:35we almost did it again, but we're getting better
- 0:37at it It only took us a year to figure it out
- 0:39when we get together and start talking We need
- 0:41to just hit the record button immediately Otherwise,
- 0:44we're gonna do 20 minutes of the show without
- 0:47this without the show part It remains to be seen
- 0:51if we can continue to remember that we might
- 0:53just revert next week It's true we are like guppies
- 0:59with short memories, huh? Here is where I'd like
- 1:04to start this week before we get into deconstructing
- 1:07Idaho's mainstream media. Ripe as ever, lots
- 1:11of low -hanging fruit. There's not even any fruit
- 1:13in the middle or the upper part of the tree.
- 1:16It's all just dangling at the ground, getting
- 1:18eaten by squirrels. The freaking media, man.
- 1:21I'd like to go through a couple of last week's
- 1:25drops. and discuss which one should go on the
- 1:28sound board very quickly because this note came
- 1:31in as part of a donation note, which I will read
- 1:35the donation note in our value for value segment
- 1:38where we will describe the model that this program
- 1:41runs on because we don't have advertisers or
- 1:43sponsors or anything. It came in from the agenda
- 1:46archaeologist. So this part of the note I'm reading
- 1:49now. What if the episode's previous sound Sorry,
- 1:53what if the previous episode's sound drops were
- 1:56cataloged at the beginning of the next episode?
- 1:59So you'll see why he's saying that as I read
- 2:01his note later in the show. But I want to start
- 2:05with because we sort of we do that at the end
- 2:07of shows where, you know, we're amused by a bunch
- 2:09of different cuts from that episode. Like, oh,
- 2:11that should go on the soundboard. Sometimes they
- 2:13do. Sometimes they don't. So I pulled a bunch
- 2:16and I like to go through them and have you weigh
- 2:18in. Here is. The first one not the way in me.
- 2:24Yeah We're gonna we're gonna make an executive
- 2:28decision per the agenda archaeologists prompting
- 2:32So here's a new proposal for a new 999 Which
- 2:37would not to supplant this one But just to be
- 2:42Like another version of it and that was up Mike
- 2:46the llama liquor from the the now unemployed
- 2:49Idaho statesman watchdog journalist He had a
- 2:52nine that might work. Well The context was this
- 2:58you go back 20 years or so ago and we had a hundred
- 3:02people in our newsroom that we're gonna have
- 3:04Okay, is that worthy Hmm. I'm on the fence. I
- 3:13know. It sounded really good in context, but
- 3:16then when I isolated the nine, it wasn't quite
- 3:18as good. It's okay. And he's on the phone, which
- 3:22is a little bit annoying, and it is really hard
- 3:24to compete with this guy. You know, the intensity.
- 3:27It is really hard to dethrone the Führer. Where
- 3:33am I missing it here? I have some other ones.
- 3:37It's in 46. Oh, here we go. Okay, here. It's
- 3:40in 46. Here is this one. Deep grunting coming.
- 3:44So there was the deep grunting from the Boise
- 3:47school district settling a lawsuit with a former
- 3:49female and a trans something and there was remember
- 3:52they were in the bathroom and they heard deep
- 3:55grunting coming from one of the stalls. So there's
- 3:56either this one. Deep grunting. Or I this is
- 4:00at this is actually how it sounds like deep grunting
- 4:03coming from the stall but I cut this. Deep grunting
- 4:05coming. Deep grunting coming. Is any of that
- 4:08good, deep grunting? Yeah, I mean deep grunting
- 4:13obviously makes the cut. I was, I was an immediate
- 4:16cut maker. Deep grunting. I'm pretty sure I had
- 4:19a stop so I could say we got to make that one
- 4:21a sound drop. All right, we'll add deep grunting.
- 4:24So yes, as usual, I agree with myself. Here is
- 4:30this one. Pay more for schools. That's from four
- 4:36news. Now is asking Coeur d 'Alene. Just an evergreen
- 4:39evergreen. Yeah. It approves the latest temporary
- 4:43answer to every question that anybody in anybody
- 4:47ever asks. That's you could just use that sound
- 4:50drop for a time or for schools. It's for a temporary.
- 4:53And what are we going to do about this problem?
- 4:55Pay more for school. What about this problem?
- 4:58Pay more for schools. Okay, so that one's going
- 5:01on. Yes. We can't afford housing. What do we
- 5:04do? Pay more for schools. Pay more for schools.
- 5:09Here's this one. That was NPR doing the sheep
- 5:16podcast promo. When the flock cameras observe
- 5:20the sheep of Idaho, this is how NPR hears it.
- 5:25Do we like that? No, I love that one. That one's
- 5:29one of my recent favorites. Pay more. Because
- 5:33just remember, you can shear a sheep many times,
- 5:37but you can only skin him once. OK, here is another
- 5:43one from that same four news now. Coeur d 'Alene
- 5:46School temporary levy again. The district says
- 5:48it needs more money. Yeah, you could tie. You
- 5:52got to tie that one right right into a pay more
- 5:55for schools. Pay more for schools The district
- 5:59says it needs more money. So I don't have these
- 6:02as buttons yet This is all just in waveform because
- 6:04I'm gonna well I'll add them as we decide which
- 6:07one so it's I'm having to sort of skip around
- 6:08here Okay, so that's it. That's a yay how I got
- 6:11two more the district doesn't get enough You'll
- 6:18notice that that one might not make the cut.
- 6:21Yeah. Well, that's it. It starts. It starts to
- 6:23get redundant. So we have to pick the best of
- 6:26the best. Yes. Fair enough. All right. So we'll
- 6:28delete that one. And final one racing your immune
- 6:32system's memory. That's right. That's from a
- 6:35creme channel to and dr. Celine gounder. You
- 6:38know, we got a bus that one out any time Yeah
- 6:41field to the experts experts have said the it's
- 6:45a surge in memory erasing bacteria Erasing your
- 6:49immune system's memory and remember if that's
- 6:52measles is like AIDS. Oh, you can't remember.
- 6:54That's the problem Erasing your immune system's
- 6:59memory. So that's a yay as well That's a yay,
- 7:03okay done these people are the experts So that
- 7:09might be what we just do We just kind of do some
- 7:11housekeeping at the top of the show and just
- 7:13kind of decide what we'll do from what we'll
- 7:15add From last week's episode. Thanks agenda archaeologists
- 7:18for this gesture suggestion. It's a good one
- 7:22Along we get it. Are we thinking of making this
- 7:24a feature of every episode? I know I don't see
- 7:27why not sure. I don't see why not through the
- 7:29menu They're always funny and I always, you know,
- 7:31I don't necessarily need to make a dictatorial
- 7:35declaration for what should be added to the soundboard.
- 7:37This is a democracy. Oh, okay. Well, I'm for
- 7:42it. It's fun. Gives people a chance to revisit
- 7:44some of our favorites. Gives us a chance to revisit
- 7:46some of our favorites. So if we make it a feature
- 7:48of the episode, I'm cool with it. There you go.
- 7:50What do we got to call it though? We got to call
- 7:52it something sound drop in it or something. We
- 7:54got to come up with some catchy name with alliteration
- 7:57because you know me, I'm a sucker for alliteration.
- 8:01I would love suggestions. The agenda archaeologist
- 8:04would be maybe the first person to, if you got
- 8:07a suggestion for what to name that little vignette,
- 8:09that'd be great. You know, I want to reset clean
- 8:11feed. You're still choppy. We could call it a,
- 8:15I'm digging it in honor of the archaeologist.
- 8:18I'm digging it. I like it. Hey, let me, let me
- 8:20reset clean feed, dude. You're still really choppy.
- 8:22I'm not sure why I'm going to reset it. How's
- 8:26that? I don't know. You tell me. Okay, well so
- 8:30clean on my end. Yeah. Okay. I'm glad to hear
- 8:32that so so far better Hopefully that's all it
- 8:35takes. All right. So let's launch into this then
- 8:38as It is right along the lines of the district
- 8:41doesn't get enough and it needs more money and
- 8:43we need more money for schools The Idaho state
- 8:46budget is projected to end the current fiscal
- 8:48year with a larger surplus than lawmakers previously
- 8:51expected. That comes after the state made spending
- 8:54cuts across multiple departments last year. Now
- 8:56new estimates from the Legislative Services Office
- 8:59show the state's financial outlook has improved.
- 9:03When the Idaho legislature wrapped up in April,
- 9:06lawmakers estimated the state would have about
- 9:08$150 million in surplus funds at the end of the
- 9:12fiscal year 2027. But the latest estimate from
- 9:15the Legislative Services Office now puts that
- 9:17number at about six hundred and fifty seven million
- 9:20dollars. That's roughly five hundred and seven
- 9:22million dollars more than the estimate made in
- 9:25April. The latest figures reflect the state's
- 9:27current revenue and spending projections. So
- 9:30there's so the experts whose immune systems have
- 9:33been erased by raw milk. It turns out they can't
- 9:36estimate for jack crap. What is that like a nine
- 9:38million percent error? It's big else. Also, speaking
- 9:44of short memories, do you remember how early
- 9:47in the session, so we're talking February, March,
- 9:50they couldn't shut up about how we were facing
- 9:52dire financial straits. And of course it was
- 9:55all the mean, mean, mean old conservative Republicans
- 9:58faults for not spending enough money on education
- 10:01and health care. And that's why we were in the
- 10:03hole. These cuts are killing people. Literally.
- 10:06Literally. That's all we heard. Literally killing
- 10:08people to the tune of a half a million dollar,
- 10:11half a billion dollar surplus. That sounds like
- 10:14total death to me. Man, it's a good thing these
- 10:16people are in charge. It's a good thing they're
- 10:18so much smarter than us, huh, Scott? So not only
- 10:21can they extract maximum dollar from us and celebrate
- 10:24the fact that they've extracted maximum dollar
- 10:26for us, but they never will stop complaining
- 10:28about how it's not enough while they're extracting
- 10:30maximum dollar from us. And they're wrong about
- 10:33how much they got from us. Here's another one
- 10:36that I missed. Governor Brad Little has ordered
- 10:38state officials to keep spending. Remember that
- 10:41one? There's another one from last show. Yeah,
- 10:44keep spending. What we ought to do is, you know
- 10:47what we ought to do for our one year anniversary,
- 10:50which is coming up, by the way, we ought to just
- 10:52do a two hour long super cut of all of these
- 10:56sound drops that all revolve around the experts
- 10:59and spending and memory erasing viruses and just
- 11:02super cut a whole two hour thing together. And
- 11:04then you and I don't say a word. We just put
- 11:06this on for our anniversary and. Just see if
- 11:11anybody notices a trend. We need this money.
- 11:15Is that I think it's a lot of rebel. We need
- 11:16this money. They need money. We need this money.
- 11:19That's all we heard is how desperately which.
- 11:22But did you hear what they said? What the report
- 11:25said, though? When the Idaho legislature wrapped
- 11:27up in April, lawmakers estimated the state would
- 11:30have about $150 million in surplus funds at the
- 11:34end. So that was still all of the, we need money
- 11:36and there's no money and the district needs more
- 11:39money and we can't keep spending on the more
- 11:41money. That was all still based on $157 million
- 11:45estimated surplus? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, is there
- 11:51any universe I mean to be fair back into our
- 11:53pockets or I mean am I just living on a planet
- 11:56planet redic I mean obviously that's a rhetorical
- 11:59and ridiculous question. What are you new here
- 12:02first day? I Remember my first time. Oh my god
- 12:08It was grunting I guess in their defense though
- 12:20a five hundred and something million dollar extra.
- 12:24So it's actually like a six million and seventy
- 12:27something dollar surplus, but they were off by
- 12:29a mere five hundred and something million. To
- 12:32be fair to them, that's only three and a half
- 12:35post fall city budgets. That's all you're right.
- 12:40So it's not very much money. You know, when you
- 12:42measure it in post fall city budgets, it's actually
- 12:44it's almost bankruptcy. It's tiny. You're completely
- 12:48right. You know what we need to do? Let's remove
- 12:51all the gates from all the snowplows in the entire
- 12:53state. We don't have enough money for the state
- 12:58snowplows to have gates. We need this money.
- 13:01We have sort of a problem here. It's only three
- 13:05and a half Post Falls budget's worth. I mean,
- 13:08honestly, would you say it like that? It sounds
- 13:10so small. There's there's also this way Wait,
- 13:15there's this this the awkward laugh from the
- 13:18the poor lady who had her who had code enforcement
- 13:20shut down her What was her Sasquatch snack stand
- 13:24down in southern Idaho her awkward laugh? That
- 13:28one is on there, too Oh, that's got us. That's
- 13:31that has to yeah that also makes the cut. These
- 13:34are just gold We just had a solid lineup this
- 13:36week They're not all gonna make the cut like
- 13:37they did this week, but this week was solid lineups
- 13:40put another way just to make it, you know, so
- 13:43that you understand Scott, how trivial and petty
- 13:46we're being about this half a billion dollar
- 13:50fuck up. It's only $262 per man, woman and child
- 13:56in Idaho. That's it. That's all it is. Nothing.
- 13:59It's nothing. It just, you know, which divided
- 14:01by or a multiply times five for me, for my household,
- 14:04which is a household of five is about $1 ,300,
- 14:09give or take 1250. 1300 because it's 262 per
- 14:13man, woman and child. So what is that? Hey, they
- 14:17could give me a 1300 dollar refund. It would
- 14:23cover half of my property taxes. But don't worry,
- 14:31when they're taking it from us, it's only three
- 14:33percent. When we're cutting them back, it's an
- 14:37apocalyptic point eight percent. Don't ever forget.
- 14:41These cuts are killing people. Literally. Literally.
- 14:47You shouldn't have to pay tax to breathe. And
- 14:50yet here we are. But my roads. What about my
- 14:57roads? So you love potholes. Shut up and take
- 14:59my money. Yeah. That's right. That's right. We
- 15:01shouldn't have to pay to breathe, but we're going
- 15:03to do it anyways because when you angle roads
- 15:05like that. Shut up and take my money. Let's pick
- 15:12our road we yeah Let's do Well, I guess we could
- 15:17do Traff now, let's forget traffic. Let's do
- 15:20the the guns verse hjr4 thing the article that
- 15:24you said yes, yes So I have a bunch of I have
- 15:27that shit dialed up go right ahead It's so good
- 15:31and then I got lots of audio for it Okay, so
- 15:34I'm gonna credit Wayne Hoffman for juxtaposing
- 15:38the two things against each other in a way that
- 15:40I hadn't thought to do so, even though like I
- 15:42knew it, but I didn't put it down on paper the
- 15:45way my friend Wayne Hoffman, who a former, he
- 15:48is the founder of Idaho Freedom Foundation and
- 15:51the former, of course, what would it be? Chairman,
- 15:54I guess, president CEO of it. He stopped doing
- 15:57that stuff about four or five, six years ago.
- 15:59Now he's working on a... thing called level up
- 16:01humanity, I'm on the board of it. It's a, it's
- 16:04a total reframing of the way we look at humanity
- 16:06in general, basically, it's a lot of like, what
- 16:08if we didn't do what the government said? And
- 16:11what if we didn't bind ourselves to this idea
- 16:14that without the state, everything would be awful?
- 16:17Because actually, it's with the state, everything
- 16:18is awful. But I digress, Wayne puts out a great
- 16:21email every couple of days. And one came down
- 16:25the pipe where he juxtaposed these two things
- 16:30that reveal the absolute lunacy of the matrix
- 16:35in which we live. In Idaho, on one side, you
- 16:38have HJR4, House Joint Resolution Four, which
- 16:43is a ballot initiative that's going to be on
- 16:45the ballot in November, this November in Idaho,
- 16:47where the voters get to decide whether or not
- 16:52to restrict their own rights. Basically, it's
- 16:56a it's regarding the legalization of basically
- 17:00any non FDA regulated drug at this point, because
- 17:03they didn't stop at marijuana, of course. Oh,
- 17:05no, no, no, it's anything. So psychedelic psychosilabin,
- 17:10any anything that's basically not your over the
- 17:12counter for your pharma approved, sponsored by
- 17:15Pfizer drug, psilocybin be completely psilocybin.
- 17:19Thank you. Well, yeah, you can tell what I do
- 17:22and I don't do here. So basically what it does
- 17:28is it gives the legislature exclusive power to
- 17:33legalize or criminalize all of these drugs that
- 17:36are considered basically not pharmaceutical approved,
- 17:40not FDA approved. What's the word I'm looking
- 17:43for, Scott? They're black market drugs. There's
- 17:46another term for it, but illicit substances.
- 17:50You mean the runs that are run by the cartel?
- 17:52They're very good at masking themselves as a
- 17:54legitimate private entity. And then when you
- 17:57really pull everything back and you pull these
- 17:59layers back, you realize who you're dealing with.
- 18:01You're dealing with the cartel. Right. And they're
- 18:03pushing drugs. Well, the question is which cartel
- 18:05here? Because you have Pfizer and all of them
- 18:10on the one side, which are also a cartel. What
- 18:13about Idaho state liquor? What would you call
- 18:17that? Oh, that's a cartel as well. Well, that's
- 18:19why that's the it's government run. So it's the
- 18:21biggest cartel of all. Whoa, psychoactive substances.
- 18:24Okay. Cheech. Yeah, ironically enough, the cartel
- 18:29that they tell us to be the most afraid of is
- 18:31the one that actually hurts us the least and
- 18:33may actually provide useful goods and services.
- 18:36But that's a conversation for another time, I
- 18:37suppose. Anyways, what it does is H .J. House
- 18:41Joint Resolution Four is a ballot initiative
- 18:43whereby voters can vote less rights for themselves
- 18:46and give the legislature exclusive power in Idaho
- 18:50to regulate, legalize or criminalize or decriminalize.
- 18:55illicit drugs and substances. So the idea is
- 18:58to basically make it impossible to have a ballot
- 19:02initiative in Idaho to legalize marijuana. That's
- 19:05the main gist of this. That is the main point,
- 19:07because they are afraid that at some point in
- 19:10the near future, as has happened in other states,
- 19:12it will be legalized. In fact, Idaho is like,
- 19:15I think, one of two states left in the entire
- 19:18country. There's only a couple of states left,
- 19:20and Idaho is one of them. I can actually, I don't
- 19:22know. Why don't you look it up for me, Scott?
- 19:24It's one of only two or three states in the entire
- 19:26country where there is not seasonal use or full
- 19:31recreational use, but Idaho is one of the only
- 19:33holdouts left. Let's ask the robot. What other
- 19:39states besides Idaho still don't allow for any
- 19:42sort of marijuana? Let me check that. Okay as
- 19:48of September 2026 if you mean states with no
- 19:51medical program or recreational legalization
- 19:54the list is Idaho Georgia Indiana Iowa Kansas
- 20:02North Carolina South Carolina Tennessee Wisconsin
- 20:08and Wyoming With the big caveat that some of
- 20:13those have very limited low THC or CBD programs.
- 20:18So that distinction, well no, that distinction
- 20:22matters, I guess, because Idaho, all of that
- 20:25is illegal. So that is a distinction with a difference,
- 20:29it does matter. In Idaho, Idaho is one of two
- 20:32states where there are no THC or CBD exemptions,
- 20:38Kansas being the other one. Marijuana is completely
- 20:42100 % illegal in every shape, way, and form.
- 20:45And they're one of two states where there's no
- 20:48exemptions for any of it. And there's only four
- 20:51states with total marijuana bans. That's Idaho,
- 20:54Kansas, Indiana, Nebraska. Even Ohio has exemptions.
- 20:59Gray area states, which are considered restrictive
- 21:02states, but you can have low THC products or
- 21:06medical THC oil. Uh, products and programs, uh,
- 21:11Georgia, Iowa, North Carolina, South Carolina,
- 21:13Tennessee, Wisconsin, Wyoming, all have exemptions
- 21:15for those low level stuff. I look, I was looking
- 21:20it up same time as you, because I don't, because
- 21:21Chauncey is shit, man. You keep consulting Chauncey,
- 21:24but we get better answers with just the plain
- 21:26old Google machine, man. You want to do anyways,
- 21:29the point is I was right. Idaho is one of two
- 21:32states where everything is illegal. Again, that's
- 21:36groundhog day. again and hjr4 will make it so
- 21:40that the people us we don't get a say well we
- 21:45get a say right now and the vote that's coming
- 21:47up is us getting a say on whether or not we ever
- 21:49get a say again Yeah, no, man. It's like every
- 21:55election cycle. Oh, dude. Here's here's. So I
- 21:59can go ahead. So I was going to play Idaho. No,
- 22:02you go ahead. Illustrating what you're what you're
- 22:05describing here, what this proposal is all about,
- 22:07what they're proposing we take away from ourselves.
- 22:10this november, Idaho vot to vote on whether the
- 22:13le should have the exclusive things like marijuana
- 22:18and would block the ability to create ballot
- 22:22initiati Riley Shoemaker and I put So now she's
- 22:32as you hear from that nap she's now on the and
- 22:35I asked a lawmaker why the lawmakers who stand
- 22:38to gain more power from this support this Okay,
- 22:42but yeah the lawmakers who are super against
- 22:44like psychoactive Intoxicants, but they get can't
- 22:48campaign contributions from Pfizer and Moderna
- 22:50those those lawmakers Well, yeah, which is ironic
- 22:53as power is one hell of a drug shows you that
- 22:59Riley sho streets of downtown Boise board. Right
- 23:05now, Idaho can gather signatures to p on the
- 23:09ballot, including or other psychoactive sub resolution
- 23:15four would cha the ability for citizens the,
- 23:20she's written the lang on this on this dry eras
- 23:26read it, you know, like, clear, remove the ability
- 23:30state statute statutes tha substances. If it
- 23:38passes would have the authority a no vote would
- 23:43keep the c We showed voters the ling not necessarily
- 23:51confusing. I mean it seems pretty clear and I
- 23:54would probably vote for the citizens, but not
- 23:57everyone found it clear. I think the language
- 23:59is confusing. People are a proper representation
- 24:02of what people think. So yeah, it should be up
- 24:04to people that is confusing. Yes, I do think
- 24:08that it should be up to up to the people. August
- 24:10Seymour came to a different conclusion. I feel
- 24:12like definitely it should be held to it like
- 24:14a higher power. Therefore it can be more moderated.
- 24:18Did you hear that? I want my glorious Supreme
- 24:20Chalupa leaders to decide this for me. A higher
- 24:22power. Like God. They are God. Unbelievable.
- 24:28We can't do this. We need a higher power. It's
- 24:32really something. The truth always wants to come
- 24:34out. He stumbled, too. Did you hear? He almost
- 24:39says, like, wait, did that really just come flying
- 24:40out of my mouth? Like a higher power, therefore
- 24:43it can be more moderated. So then it's not just
- 24:46anybody making that decision. I want us to hold
- 24:48the line. So it's not just anybody. No, not us.
- 24:51No, no, no, no, no. The god kings make the decisions.
- 24:55This is our fellow citizens. He was also wearing
- 24:59six masks. He wasn't, but he might as well. Higher
- 25:04power, therefore it can be more moderated. So
- 25:07then it's not just anybody making that decision.
- 25:10That might be a sound drop right there. Which
- 25:13one? It's all gold. Which one? Higher power.
- 25:18It's a little garbled when you do just that.
- 25:22That's true. Out of context, but whatever. In
- 25:26context, it's fabulous. Therefore it can be more
- 25:29moderated. This is why we deconstruct the mainstream
- 25:32media because it's so Illustrative of what's
- 25:35going on in how in what's being presented to
- 25:38everybody and then how it makes their brains
- 25:41work This guy thinks that I would other higher
- 25:44powers in the government should make decisions
- 25:46for him. That's what he's saying Yeah. Yeah,
- 25:50I would also say that it's illuminating for exactly
- 25:54that reason what you just mentioned is in the
- 25:58way that the COVID crazy showed us how many of
- 26:01our neighbors were actually insane, breaking
- 26:04down the mainstream media and watching other
- 26:07people as they react to it and what they do or
- 26:11don't do or what they think or don't think it's
- 26:13very illuminating. And it's just like, you sit
- 26:16there and you wonder and all the armchair quarterbacks
- 26:20today, Or like, if Hitler came to power, I'd
- 26:23never join him. I hate to break it to you, but
- 26:26you already have. It just looks a little different.
- 26:30But the effect is the same. There's so much future
- 26:32tense being used. Like, you know, if we're not
- 26:35careful, we're going to lose our liberties. Like,
- 26:38OK. Oh, bad. I don't even know where to start.
- 26:44And by the way, you know, I meant to mention
- 26:45this earlier before we continue on with this
- 26:47clip. The notion, you know, I I've heard a little
- 26:51bit of this feedback and I know it's a it's a
- 26:53popular sentiment amongst the You guys are wild
- 26:56-eyed nutjobs with your nonsense world that can
- 26:58never possibly exist. What's the point? What
- 27:00do you like potholes? You know, I mean if people
- 27:03thought that way about any like movement that
- 27:07made the world better in the past, it never would
- 27:10have happened. Like, can you imagine going back
- 27:12to like 1684? What's the point of even discussing
- 27:15chattel slavery, you stupid idealists? Like,
- 27:19it's never going to change, man. There's no point.
- 27:21This is a waste of time. Like, it's the world
- 27:23that exists. There's nothing you can do about
- 27:25it. And it's legal. It's legal. Exactly. So,
- 27:28you know, what do you fight? You're fighting
- 27:29City Hall. What are you doing? And besides, if
- 27:31we get rid of the slaves, who's going to build
- 27:33the roads? Who will pick the cotton? There is
- 27:41something to be said about like attempting to
- 27:45make a tiny mark of your own on the zeitgeist
- 27:48such that eventually maybe the zeitgeist will
- 27:51change and then the macro change can take place.
- 27:53I don't know. It just seems like such a defeatist
- 27:55way to frame thinking about stuff. What's the
- 27:58point? I don't know. What's the point of anything?
- 28:01Sometimes things change. They can and they do
- 28:07Yeah All right, let's continue on here. Therefore,
- 28:10it can be more moderated so that it's not just
- 28:13anybody making that decision. I want us to hold
- 28:15the line right where we're at. Representative
- 28:17Bruce Gogg helped lead H .J .R. 4 through the
- 28:19House. He argues drug policy should be excluded
- 28:22from the initiative process because large financial
- 28:25interests can influence signature gathering campaigns.
- 28:28Unlike any other topic or industry. What does
- 28:35that not apply to? What does that not apply to?
- 28:38That's what I'm saying. No, no, it was cool when
- 28:40King Ag was dumping money into all of the primary
- 28:43elections. But now that we're talking about drugs,
- 28:46we can't be having drug money influencing elections,
- 28:50even though it's on the one side of it. You know,
- 28:52Pfizer is dumping and whoever else, you know,
- 28:55all of the other pharmaceuticals that I don't
- 28:57know. They're all dumping money into this, you
- 29:00know which way they're pushing. Merck, GlaxoSmithKline,
- 29:04Moderna. I mean, that's just like off the top
- 29:07of my head, there's a billion of them. The logic
- 29:11here, the argument is basically that if we don't
- 29:14take rights away from the voters, from the people,
- 29:17if we don't centralize power into our hands,
- 29:20then a lot of money could get dumped into this
- 29:23issue. That's what he said. He argues drug policy
- 29:28should be excluded from the initiative process
- 29:30because large financial interests can influence
- 29:33signature gathering campaigns. That's what the
- 29:36reporter summarized. But then here, here's his
- 29:39words. Here, the big drug money comes in are
- 29:41those who are likely to make a lot of money.
- 29:43We saw that in the attempt to get marijuana on
- 29:45the ballot, three and a half or three point two
- 29:47million dollars spent on that to get signatures.
- 29:50And they almost did it, even though Idaho has
- 29:53been very strong against marijuana and other
- 29:55drugs. keep the big money, the cartels, keep
- 29:58that money out. So we can't, yeah, of course
- 30:02that doesn't include Idaho state liquor. That
- 30:06cartel will remain intact and in fact will remain
- 30:09the only game in town with regard to psychoactive
- 30:12intoxicants. I'm Bruce Scott. King Ag, no big
- 30:16deal. King State Liquor, no big deal. The quote
- 30:20unquote education. I hate that word because it's
- 30:22not education. It's indoctrination. But the indoctrination
- 30:25cartel, that's cool. But marijuana, we can't
- 30:31be having that weed money. You know, if we didn't
- 30:36take rights away from the voters, we might have
- 30:39the wrong kind of money dumped into the wrong
- 30:41kind of political campaign. That's the coolest
- 30:43fucking story I've ever heard in my entire life.
- 30:45That's insane. Can I hear it again? Do you have
- 30:47time? So we want to keep the big money, the cartels,
- 30:50keep that money out. The cartels! The cartels.
- 30:55The cartels! They're very good at masking themselves.
- 30:59Let this be our weekly friendly reminder. The
- 31:03government is the biggest, most violent cartel
- 31:06on planet Earth. And it's not that they don't
- 31:10like... the things that they're engaged in. It's
- 31:13just that they don't like competition. They love
- 31:16drugs, they love booze, they love gambling, they
- 31:19love all the things that make them money and
- 31:21keep you stupid. They're immoral! They just don't
- 31:24like... They just don't like competition. Skog
- 31:29pointed to cities like Portland, Oregon, where
- 31:31drug decriminalization policies have been controversial,
- 31:35arguing Idaho should not follow the same path.
- 31:37You know, we have another actually example to
- 31:41add. This is the only two things that can come
- 31:43up with the roads and Portland, the road and
- 31:46Portland arguing Idaho when all else fails, you
- 31:49just. Go. You don't want to be like Portland,
- 31:52do you? Portland. Idaho should not follow the
- 31:54same path. The damage is done very quickly once
- 31:57illegal drugs are legalized. It destroys lives,
- 32:01destroys families. House Joint Resolution Four
- 32:03will be determined on Election Day this November.
- 32:06Reporting at the State Capitol. OK, yeah, whatever
- 32:07you say, you freaking teetotaler. So don't legalize
- 32:10psychoactive intoxicants. So then no booze, right?
- 32:13Is he for prohibition? Yeah. Your first crusade
- 32:17should be banning booze immediately or maybe
- 32:21that's your second crusade. Your first crusade
- 32:22should be banning all opioids, all painkillers,
- 32:27opioids in particular. You got to ban it. It
- 32:30ruins lives. It's hell on your kidneys and liver.
- 32:33It's addictive. It's expensive. And it's run
- 32:36by the second or third largest cartel on the
- 32:39planet, the pharmaceutical cartel. So if that's
- 32:42what we're afraid of, what are we waiting for?
- 32:46It's just like when people talk about safety
- 32:48and deaths and like, oh, you know deaths deaths
- 32:51deaths and I go alright Well, if we really cared
- 32:53if we were like just anything to save one life,
- 32:56we would ban cars today We would ban cars today
- 33:01Ban them if everything we do saves just one life
- 33:07I'll be happy. So no more cars in awesome No
- 33:10more banning cars. You know what? Hey, they did
- 33:12try this, though. You know, they told us to stay
- 33:14in our houses. Stay in the house. It's true.
- 33:18It's true. I guess that's step number one to
- 33:20banning cars, because then after that, it's like,
- 33:22well, you can't leave your home, so you don't
- 33:24need your car. That's right. Well, right. And
- 33:27the fuel is going to be so expensive anyway,
- 33:28you're not going to be able to afford it. And
- 33:30thus sayeth the higher powers that are making
- 33:32decisions for you. Oh, thank God we gave that
- 33:36power to a higher power. We can't just have anybody
- 33:38doing it. Yeah, it has to be moderated by somebody
- 33:41smarter than me. Okay, there's a couple more
- 33:44here and it all ties into the the choice that
- 33:47our benevolent higher powers are giving us. We're
- 33:50working towards an overarching point here. We
- 33:52really are. We're taking the scenic route as
- 33:54we like to do. This is 35 seconds and it's a
- 33:58clip from our homeboys at the North Idaho Experience
- 34:01who are all like former law enforcement, former
- 34:04military, and this is a brief vignette from their
- 34:07discussion on this matter. I think it was from
- 34:08a couple few months ago. Idaho's 2026 ballot
- 34:11has two opposing laws. It was actually before,
- 34:14because that was when they were still going to
- 34:16try to get the legalized medical, but that failed.
- 34:21You know legalizes. They couldn't get enough
- 34:23signatures couldn't get enough right exactly
- 34:25what 20 ,000 short The the estimate was that
- 34:27they were gonna have 18 million, but it turned
- 34:30out that they only got 52 ,000 So you just don't
- 34:32have that not that very good at estimating on
- 34:34it The other makes it impossible to ever vote
- 34:36on it again. We're talking about Marijuana the
- 34:40devil's lettuce marijuana and potentially coming
- 34:42to Idaho. Is that a big deal? There is a correlation.
- 34:45I don't know if it's the marijuana specifically
- 34:47I don't know what it is. Hopefully we can hash
- 34:49some of that out today, but there's a Correlation
- 34:51between legalizing drugs and the a state sliding
- 34:56downward into law enforcement in Idaho It's such
- 35:03a tired trope and if you look at it in any sort
- 35:06of intelligent way It's the other way around
- 35:09it's they're getting the whole chicken before
- 35:11the egg thing wrong here. They're like drugs
- 35:13drugs are what did it? They're what turned every
- 35:15state gay Sorry to burst your bubble, guys, but
- 35:20every state that's done it good and hard, full
- 35:23legalization, which I think is only like two,
- 35:25Oregon was one of them for sure, already was
- 35:28chock full of decay, corruption, 30 years of
- 35:33Democrat control. And they already were super
- 35:37gay, metaphorically and literally, before drug
- 35:41legalization. One beget the other, but not the
- 35:45way that people in Idaho think. It's so ridiculous,
- 35:48too, because all it takes is five minutes of
- 35:52sitting down, taking a deep breath, and looking
- 35:53at, I don't know, just reality and political
- 35:58history of Oregon. We'll just key in on Oregon,
- 36:02because that's the state of the election. Portland
- 36:03is a place that lost its mind in the early 90s
- 36:08politically and philosophically and ideologically.
- 36:11Portland has been a leftist hellscape. or utopia
- 36:14depending on your perspective for 40 years and
- 36:19it had it began its slide in the early 90s so
- 36:24it wasn't like they didn't you know they didn't
- 36:25legalize drugs until the late or the early 2020s
- 36:30right so one begat the other but not but in reverse
- 36:34order compared to what everybody in Idaho likes
- 36:37to think it's so ridiculous so yeah so yeah if
- 36:40you have a system or a systemic decay and corruption
- 36:45and, you know, 50 years of unabated Democrat
- 36:49control and all of their policies that ensue.
- 36:53Well, drugs are no drugs. It's a hellscape. Drugs
- 36:57just sort of like help it help it look even worse.
- 37:03But legalizing drugs didn't turn Portland into
- 37:05a hellscape. Portland already was a hellscape.
- 37:07And then they just put a little whipped cream
- 37:08and a cherry on top. I felt really gay last night.
- 37:12Oh dude, Dan Guggen would love Portland. Come
- 37:14over for a gay time. So many failing art galleries
- 37:19for him to trounce around in. Here's the last
- 37:23part of this clip from North Idaho Experience
- 37:25so you can hear how other, in many ways, liberty
- 37:29-minded North Idaho guys still think about some
- 37:33elements of liberty that they, I guess, find
- 37:35personally distasteful or they think is going
- 37:37to lead to X or et cetera. Well, you got a couple
- 37:40of things going on there. These dudes are former
- 37:41law enforcement. So there's strike number one.
- 37:44So you already know the way they're going to
- 37:45think about almost everything anyways, even if
- 37:47they claim to be for liberty. And number two
- 37:50is they're they're the you know, and I'm sure
- 37:52they're good dudes. And I'm actually hoping we
- 37:53can get on their show and really rile shit up.
- 37:56And that would be so much fun. I'd love to do
- 37:58it. And I'm sure we'll be we'll be mostly good
- 38:01friends. afterwards and before, but they still
- 38:03are also a part of that tropey, conservative
- 38:06-ish crowd that are like, well, I'm all for rights,
- 38:09but, and it's like, I'm all for freedom, but,
- 38:12it's like, yep, no, you're not. There is no qualifier
- 38:15there. Outside of the NAP, the non -aggression
- 38:18principle, which is very clear cut, because that's
- 38:20natural rights, that's don't hurt people, don't
- 38:23take their stuff. That's natural law, natural
- 38:27rights. Outside of that, because that's, that's
- 38:30the but part other than that though there are
- 38:32no buts no buts it's freedom or you don't believe
- 38:35in freedom the only time the freedom quote unquote
- 38:37stops is if you hurt other people then no you
- 38:40don't you don't have the freedom to do that because
- 38:42that's a violation of natural law but yeah these
- 38:44dudes are classic you know conservatives where
- 38:47they're like well i'm for less government until
- 38:49i'm for more government when it's the thing i
- 38:51don't like Being in law enforcement in Idaho,
- 38:55we were very aggressive with even marijuana,
- 38:57right? Right? Right? Right? Right? One of four
- 38:59states that it's not just illegal. Ruining people's
- 39:01lives. One of four states that it's not just
- 39:03illegal, but it's also criminalized here in the
- 39:05state The fact is is that weed you know with
- 39:08the argument for for marijuana is not for enjoyment
- 39:11It's a medical argument. That's what's been going
- 39:14on throughout the United States for years It
- 39:15has a medicinal purpose because we are a society
- 39:18that more is better and like you said What's
- 39:20the next way to get more high? That's where the
- 39:23problem comes in and people that are doing that
- 39:25are not doing that because oh, okay cool They
- 39:27can't sleep now do opioids Now do alcohol yeah,
- 39:32see that's not do gambling where it like So at
- 39:36Liberty, and I'm actually not even sure what
- 39:38this is, Dave. I'm not even sure what Dave is
- 39:39necessarily arguing here. It's 10 more seconds.
- 39:41Let him finish and then we'll try to decipher
- 39:43what it is he's even saying. And this is also
- 39:45from a short. So this is it's it's cut a lot,
- 39:47although this is how they cut it. So I'm not
- 39:49sure what point they're even driving at. But
- 39:51here it is. That's where the problem comes in.
- 39:53And people that are doing that are not doing
- 39:54that because they have back pain or they can't
- 39:56sleep well. It gets abused. And this is a problem
- 39:59that you see with drugs across the country. I
- 40:01mean, honestly, we're voluntarily giving up our
- 40:04rights. citizens to make these laws. What about
- 40:06heroin? What about, what about methamphetamine?
- 40:09What if they wanted to do something like that?
- 40:11They could, and it would not take the vote of
- 40:12the people. So I'm not even like, so in other
- 40:15words, we should have the right to decide taken
- 40:18away or we shouldn't. I it's not even clear to
- 40:21me what points making maybe he's not even sure
- 40:22himself. I don't even know what the why it even
- 40:26matters what the topic is, who even cares what
- 40:29any of this stuff is about. Should the citizens
- 40:31be able to decide X? The answer is just how could
- 40:33it be anything but yes? Why do you want overlords
- 40:36making decisions for you? Insert topic here.
- 40:40And the answer is it should be up to the individual.
- 40:44I mean, we're talking about you and I right now
- 40:46are talking about ballot initiatives where people
- 40:48get to vote. for themselves more rights or fewer
- 40:52rights or whatever, but these are civil rights
- 40:55even, we're talking about. And civil rights don't
- 40:57really exist. Civil rights are something the
- 40:59government can take away from you at any time
- 41:00and do often. Like the right to vote, that's
- 41:02not a natural right, that's a civil right. You
- 41:05don't have a natural right to vote. Voting is
- 41:07just, the government says, yeah, you're allowed
- 41:09to have a say in this because you're welcome,
- 41:11peasants. Natural rights are like, you know,
- 41:14you have the right to prosper. You have the right
- 41:16to your own self -ownership of your body. You
- 41:19have the right to property. You have the right
- 41:21to not be killed. Those are natural rights. So
- 41:24that's an important distinction. But ultimately
- 41:28it gets even further down than voting as a group
- 41:34of people to give or deny the legislature more
- 41:38power. If people thought about it the way you
- 41:42and I think about it, Scott, we wouldn't even
- 41:43be having these conversations, which I guess
- 41:46would put us out of a job. But it's, should it
- 41:49be up to the individual to live their life the
- 41:51way they choose peacefully? And the answer should
- 41:55always be yes. And that's what makes us, I guess,
- 42:00just wild -eyed kooks. I don't know how that
- 42:03makes me a kook. It's wild to me. I'm soapboxing
- 42:07here, but it's just like, but here we are. Literally
- 42:10debating about whether or not a group of people
- 42:13can vote to take more of my rights away Which
- 42:17is government in a nutshell when you think about
- 42:18it Here this is the last part that I'll play
- 42:22and then we'll do the guns part which the the
- 42:24Infantilization part of this hat the hey look
- 42:26over here guns guns and drugs here. This is actually
- 42:29from a year ago Here is Senator James, is it
- 42:33Rucktee? I should have actually looked that up.
- 42:35That's stupid of me. Rucktee, Rucktee, Senator
- 42:38James Rucktee. I don't know. I've never actually
- 42:39heard. I've never heard his name pronounced.
- 42:41So I know who you're talking about, but I've
- 42:43never heard his name pronounced. Again, so he's
- 42:45a he's a Democrat down in Pocatello. And this
- 42:48is him speaking on H .J .R. for, like I said
- 42:51a year ago. I don't see how you can't logically
- 42:54conclude that the legislature thereby believes
- 42:58it can do the same thing for. alcohol, and I
- 43:03just don't think that's what the people want.
- 43:06They really don't need the legislature to babysit
- 43:09them on this. I mean, the people are smart. They're
- 43:13intuitive. They figure this stuff out. They can
- 43:16decide whether marijuana needs to stay illegal
- 43:19or become legal. The arguments can be made. You
- 43:23can go to the people and I mean such overwhelming
- 43:27testimony here today certainly that would convince
- 43:31anybody that is open to those arguments and you
- 43:37should be able to make those arguments in the
- 43:39marketplace of ideas. But this is a very undemocratic
- 43:43concept to just remove this particular issue
- 43:45from being able to be debated by the people in
- 43:48the marketplace of ideas. If you're that confident
- 43:51in your argument and the data that supports it.
- 43:56Let's have the discussion. But a prohibition
- 44:00on what the people are smart or are thoughtful
- 44:04enough to understand. Boy, that that just rings
- 44:10hollow to me. So I'll be voting against this.
- 44:14Mother of God. So we actually have a politician
- 44:19saying something sensical for a change. I'm going
- 44:22to give him credit for that. However, it's only
- 44:27because he's pro marijuana. It's because it's
- 44:30a topic that he agrees with. It's still about
- 44:32the topic. Correct. It's still about the topic.
- 44:34Cool, Senator Ruckie. That's awesome. Thank you
- 44:37for not being a total chode this one time. Now
- 44:40do taxes. Do property taxes. Do state indoctrination
- 44:45camps that we're forced to fund. Do gas taxes.
- 44:49Do registration fees. Do cutting back on Medicaid
- 44:54expansion, which we should have never done in
- 44:56the first place. We never should have done Medicaid
- 44:58expansion in the first place because it will
- 45:00eventually bankrupt the state. Do scratch ticket.
- 45:04Let's legalize poker next, huh? It's time. It's
- 45:08so time to decriminalize poker. Let's do any
- 45:12of those. Isn't it interesting though? So that's
- 45:16what I'm talking about, Scott. And you and I
- 45:17know it, we see it every day. And this is how
- 45:21I end up having very few friends. Because living
- 45:25the life of a libertarian is basically like,
- 45:28you know, somebody will hear me dumping on Trump
- 45:31and they'll be like, yeah, blah, blah, blah,
- 45:33Kamala Harris or Biden. And I'll spin around
- 45:34and be like, I don't remember asking you a goddamn
- 45:37thing. Shut up, Democrat. You're next. Like you're
- 45:42just as bad Yeah, just because I'm critical.
- 45:47Yeah, both sides suck. You're all terrible It's
- 45:49extremely effective had the the the infighting
- 45:52that the higher powers get us to do amongst ourselves
- 45:55Oh, if you're you're saying bad about team red,
- 45:58you must be blue and vice versa. Uh -huh Well,
- 46:02it's like the those guys that we got into a kind
- 46:05of got into a conversation with on my Facebook
- 46:06thread a couple of days ago that I got to follow
- 46:09back up on. I haven't been on Facebook in about
- 46:10four days. But that's four days. When I get on
- 46:13there and I criticize the Trump administration
- 46:15and I criticize Republicans, which I do all the
- 46:17time, he shows up and is immediately like, yeah,
- 46:22Democrats slop. Blur to blur. Left is bullshit.
- 46:25And I'm like, whoa, hold on. Like, you're wrong,
- 46:28too. You are so wrong and and wildly incoherent
- 46:31yourself. Dude, you're just excited because you're
- 46:34like, yeah, Team Blue. Screw Team Red. I'm like,
- 46:39oh, no, buddy. Just no. You're worse, actually,
- 46:44but not by much. OK, so then we ultimately get
- 46:47to the Marodes thing. what we can now we cannot
- 46:51the higher powers need to take away our ability
- 46:54to make decisions on that and they don't want
- 46:57our input and in fact we're not allowed to give
- 46:58our input if they have their druthers what they
- 47:01do need our input on what they are in desperate
- 47:04need of our opinion on is this extremely crucial
- 47:08and just existential, even I don't want to overstate
- 47:12the case, a topic with regard to Idaho and its
- 47:14future. I want you to just forget the candidates
- 47:16for a second. I know voters will pick the state's
- 47:20official gun this November. It's actually one
- 47:25of several statewide ballot questions that voters
- 47:28will see in November. This one is an advisory
- 47:31ballot question created by the legislature. It's
- 47:34not a citizen initiative and it's meant to designate
- 47:43an official state symbol, similar to the state
- 47:45bird or state flower. So while other ballot measures
- 47:48could affect state policy, this one's just about
- 47:50choosing a symbol. What do you think it should
- 47:53be, Paul? I don't know. How many choices do we
- 48:02have? Well There's uh, let's see there's the
- 48:07the the cannon mounted to the m1 Abrams. I think
- 48:10that's on the list I think and I wonder a Sidewinder
- 48:16missile. I'm pretty sure is on there What about
- 48:19a howitzer? I want sure sir or an ice pick So
- 48:25this was what Hoffman's article could going way
- 48:27back to the beginning of this that you had sent
- 48:29was about which is like Hey, look over here plebes
- 48:33while we take away your ability to make decisions
- 48:36about your own state and your own lives We really
- 48:39want your input on the gun Hello peasants Yeah
- 48:47is um when you when you think about it again
- 48:51sit down for five minutes take a breath and think
- 48:54about it, it's insulting. So we have, to my knowledge,
- 48:59three ballot initiatives coming up in November,
- 49:02or some form of ballot initiative might not be
- 49:04the right term for all three of them, but they
- 49:06effectively are what amounts to a ballot initiative,
- 49:08or I guess two of them are ballot initiatives
- 49:10and one of them is where we were voting on a
- 49:13piece of legislation that already passed, and
- 49:15the piece of legislation, this is the gun thing,
- 49:18it was like, okay, we're gonna do a state gun,
- 49:20so that's already locked in. But you, the voter,
- 49:23you get to you guys. We want your opinion. But
- 49:26at the same time, you juxtapose this against
- 49:30two things that are much more important, which
- 49:32is prop one, a ballot initiative to essentially
- 49:35undo all of the protections for life that Idaho
- 49:39has erected over the last 10, 12, 20 years regarding
- 49:43abortion. So Idaho is actually one of the least
- 49:45friendly to abortion states in the union, if
- 49:48not the least friendly. And I applaud it. I applaud
- 49:50it. There's arguments to be made. If you don't
- 49:55believe life begins at conception, you're wrong.
- 49:57But if you don't believe it, then there is an
- 50:00argument to be made that it is a violation of
- 50:03personal liberty and personal choice, and the
- 50:05government should have no say in that. However,
- 50:08if you do operate from the premise that life
- 50:10begins at conception, and the evidence points
- 50:13to that for sure, inconveniently for people who
- 50:16hate babies, then once life begins, then life
- 50:20must be protected. You have a natural liberty,
- 50:23a natural right to not be killed. That's the
- 50:27non -aggression principle. And therefore, it
- 50:29is within the purview of a state, even though
- 50:31I don't believe the state should exist. While
- 50:33it does exist, it is within the purview of the
- 50:36state to protect natural rights. That is actually
- 50:39what the express purpose of a government is supposed
- 50:42to be, slash have been. Obviously, we're way
- 50:46past that point, as is always how that works
- 50:49with government. It never just protects rights.
- 50:51It ultimately abuses them as much or worse than
- 50:53anybody else. Again. I digress. But so on one
- 50:57hand, we're voting to either completely open
- 51:00up abortion again in Idaho, or keep it the way
- 51:04things are now, which is protection of life.
- 51:06That's Prop 1. Then you have H .J .R. 4, House
- 51:10Joint Resolution 4, which is regarding the legalization
- 51:13or the criminalization of illicit drugs, and
- 51:16whether or not we the people will essentially
- 51:19hand our own power and rights off to the state
- 51:22legislature. The higher power. so that they can
- 51:25decide. Yeah, basically give God, the God known
- 51:29as the state, the power to decide that for us.
- 51:33And then thirdly, and most importantly, we get
- 51:36to decide, hey, what do we want the state gun
- 51:39to be? So when you think about it, it's asinine.
- 51:44On one hand, there is the real possibility that
- 51:46we surrender more of our power to the government
- 51:48because the government is quite literally with
- 51:50this HJR force saying You guys are too stupid.
- 51:55We don't trust you. You shouldn't have the right.
- 51:58Give us more power. But hey, look over here.
- 52:01Here's a box of crayons. Pick your favorite color.
- 52:05But don't you dare color outside the lines, by
- 52:07the way. And with your box of crayons, vote for
- 52:11which gun you want to be the state gun. There
- 52:14you go, kindergartners. I like green. I like
- 52:19green, too. Green is a nice color if there's
- 52:22a green gun I vote for that Okay green gun possible
- 52:27show title So yeah, and we know we took the scenic
- 52:33route to get here But it's a really important
- 52:35thing to stop and consider that this is what
- 52:38our glorious supreme to lupa leader leader leaders
- 52:41are higher powers Think of themselves and think
- 52:44of us Fuck you plebes You can pick this completely
- 52:50who gives a fuck thing over here. We'll let you
- 52:52decide this, but this other stuff give us the
- 52:57power. This other stuff that we have a monopoly
- 53:00over the, over the distribution and public messaging
- 53:04with regard to its legitimacy. We wish to preserve
- 53:07that monopoly. You can't vote to take any little
- 53:10piece of it away. Yeah. And one of them literally
- 53:13involves life and death. And what's interesting
- 53:17to me, is that you would think of all of the
- 53:21things for the legislature to take the power
- 53:24over for instead of it being drugs, you would
- 53:28think it would be abortion or protecting life,
- 53:31the right to life. Like if you're that hot to
- 53:33try to protect kids. Why are you wasting your
- 53:37time as a legislature going, no, no, we need
- 53:39the exclusive power to criminalize or decriminalize
- 53:43drugs? No, man, you should have been focusing
- 53:46on we need the exclusive right to criminalize
- 53:48or decriminalize, I don't know, slaughtering
- 53:50babies. That probably would have been the way
- 53:53to go. I'm just throwing that out there. Again,
- 53:55I don't agree with any of it. But if as a legislature,
- 53:59you're going to do something like that, they
- 54:02haven't even done it for the life or death topic.
- 54:05They just did it for drugs drugs Let's before
- 54:12we do our mid show here do a quick follow -up
- 54:15because you and I had a phone conversation with
- 54:17a Producer about this and you know right on cue
- 54:21funnily enough with this is about the River Keeper
- 54:24Which we've done a couple of shows John right
- 54:28on cue for news now sort of illustrated the producer's
- 54:32point, which I will discuss after the clip. Today
- 54:34is World Cleanup Day. Wait, hold on, Scott. Hold
- 54:36on. Sorry, I apologize. I think we should save
- 54:40that for after the break because it's going to
- 54:42be a longer topic. We're going to spend some
- 54:43time on this. So I think if we have a before
- 54:46break slot, we should spend it on the boomer
- 54:49guy or the guy who is contesting my boomerisms.
- 54:53OK, all right. That's short enough. And then
- 54:55we go into the break and then let's talk about
- 54:57the Riverkeeper stuff, because that one's going
- 54:59to that was going to take most of second half
- 55:01or a good portion of it. Okay, fair enough. Let
- 55:04me pull up that and see where do I have it. What
- 55:10was that called? Okay. Yes. Got it. I got it.
- 55:12So it was titled boomer wealth was the said but
- 55:16that was the scotch shots from last week and
- 55:18the statistics for the wealth controlled by boomers
- 55:21And and that they like half of them don't want
- 55:24to leave anything behind and half of them Don't
- 55:26have wills and all the statistics that you were
- 55:27citing. Okay, here's the note two points This
- 55:31is anonymous boomer Anecdotally, not only do
- 55:34I not know a single boomer who doesn't plan to
- 55:36leave the bulk of their remaining assets to their
- 55:39children, I find them consumed with how they
- 55:41will make this happen. I know it's only a small
- 55:43sample, but I found Paul's statistics literally
- 55:45unbelievable. My other observation I was a bit
- 55:48surprised that both of you barely if at all talked
- 55:50about the consequences of such a vast amount
- 55:53of wealth either being transferred or spent in
- 55:55such a Relatively short time to maintain value
- 55:58after flooding the market with sell orders like
- 56:00you know stocks real estate other assets It requires
- 56:02an equally robust buy side, which is an extremely
- 56:06dubious notion I know that not all inherited
- 56:08assets will be liquidated and some will be held
- 56:10but the downward pressure on prices slash valuations
- 56:13will still be enormous if only a modest fraction
- 56:16is sold. OK, so there's a few things to unpack
- 56:21there and we can do it pretty quickly, which
- 56:22is why I wanted to do it before the break. First
- 56:25off, I am going to defer to Scott on the way
- 56:29he read this. I read this is I don't believe
- 56:31Paul Paul's making shit up. Scott said, I didn't
- 56:35read it that way either way, however it was meant.
- 56:39No, sir, I was not making these. No. And let
- 56:41me just say how. directly from Northwestern Mutual.
- 56:45So it's not a huge sampling size, but it is buoyed
- 56:51and buttressed up against many other surveys
- 56:54that have been put out there and several other
- 56:56companies and outlets that also do these sorts
- 57:00of things. But the main one that got the main
- 57:01press was from Northwestern Mutual, which is
- 57:03an insurance and wealth management company. And
- 57:06they surveyed their own clients. And that's how
- 57:08they came up with these numbers and their own
- 57:10clients reported that only about 20 % of them
- 57:13expected to leave any inheritance to their kids
- 57:16or grandkids. Meanwhile, over 50 % of millennials
- 57:20in Gen Z expected an inheritance from their parents.
- 57:23Now Gen Z, they're gonna get lucky because their
- 57:26parents are mainly millennials and millennials
- 57:28who will have something to leave will leave it.
- 57:32The millennials were built differently. Now it's
- 57:34true, I'm gonna... go off on a quick little side
- 57:37branch here, but while it's true that only about
- 57:4030 to 35 % of millennials actually even have
- 57:43kids, because our marriage rates are low, our
- 57:46kid having rate are low, but a lot of that is
- 57:47economic, of course, which is again, a whole
- 57:49nother topic. It is also well known via surveys
- 57:55and anecdotal evidence, and anybody who works
- 57:57in the industries of any kind will tell you that
- 58:00millennials who are parents tend to be much,
- 58:03much more involved, much more future -minded,
- 58:05and much more intentional about generational
- 58:09wealth. And a lot of that is because we have
- 58:11to be. We know we have to be. We're kind of on
- 58:14our own out here. Not all of us and not exclusively,
- 58:18but in a general sense, This is true. Millennials
- 58:22are on their own. They know it, and they're not
- 58:25doing the same thing to their kids. And this
- 58:27is true. Look it up. Now, the stats on the boomers.
- 58:32Those are true. Northwestern Mutual did a survey.
- 58:36Fortune has done surveys. Forbes has done surveys.
- 58:40The real estate industry, realtor .com specifically,
- 58:44has done surveys. So you're talking across wealth
- 58:49outlets. wealth management, real estate asset
- 58:53industries. And I'm just accidentally hitting
- 58:56my own bell. Good for me. Would you whack it
- 58:59with your elbow? I'm Italian. What are you going
- 59:03to do? I'm moving my arm. You can't see it, but
- 59:05I'm flailing like a crazy person. Wild eyed anarchist
- 59:08Paul Manduce is also waving his arms around like
- 59:10a madman. Well, what do you call a one -armed
- 59:13Italian? What? Speech impediment. So the long
- 59:24and the short of it is these numbers are true
- 59:27and they stay about the same regardless of what
- 59:30outlet you go to to ask. It's roughly 20 -ish
- 59:33percent of boomers plan to leave anything to
- 59:36their kids. Full stop. I'm not making it up.
- 59:40You might find the stats unbelievable. I do too.
- 59:44That's that's what he's I know I know this person
- 59:47is duty that they're for sure saying that not
- 59:49that you're they're not I promise you they're
- 59:51not accusing you of just making stuff up and
- 59:54pulling it out of your rear end and just saying
- 59:56it into a micro for sure not they just found
- 59:58the stats unbelievable not that you made the
- 1:00:00stats up. But I but once you understand the dynamic
- 1:00:05and the boomer generation it is believable and
- 1:00:09that's the thing is it that is the thing. It
- 1:00:13is believable. The demographics are one of my
- 1:00:16hobbies. Politics, history, philosophy, ideology,
- 1:00:20demographics, economics, micro, macro. That's
- 1:00:23my jam. All of that shit is my jam. That's what
- 1:00:25I study in college. Doesn't make me the expert,
- 1:00:27of course, but I got the certs, which, you know,
- 1:00:29whatever, certs are certs. It doesn't, you don't
- 1:00:31matter. But they're also my hobbies. So I like
- 1:00:33crayons and guns. That's a good hobby, too. Great
- 1:00:37hobby. And the legislature approves, Scott. Good
- 1:00:40for you. My favorite color is green. Hey, mine
- 1:00:44too. Mainly because it's the color of money and
- 1:00:47trees. And I like both of those. And incidentally,
- 1:00:48money doesn't grow on trees, but it should. If
- 1:00:52I were king for a day, I'd plant so many money
- 1:00:54trees. Higher power call. Dude, I'm telling you
- 1:00:58what. But yeah, once you dig down into it, I
- 1:01:01know it sounds constantly like bitterness or
- 1:01:03sour grapes. It's not. It's just observation.
- 1:01:06And then me being just... incredulous over the
- 1:01:09whole thing, because it's just like, how can
- 1:01:11a group of people be so self -centered? But they
- 1:01:14are. You look at the system they built. You look
- 1:01:16at the way they parented. You look at their politics.
- 1:01:18You look at the government they built. You look
- 1:01:21at how even now, even now at the federal level,
- 1:01:2565 % of the federal budget is entitlements. And
- 1:01:28those entitlements are Medicare and Social Security.
- 1:01:31Who gets those things? Old people off the backs
- 1:01:35of young people. War. Who profits off of war?
- 1:01:40Old people. And this country has been at war
- 1:01:42for like 230 of its 250 years. Look to listen,
- 1:01:47look at the young people die. Old people make
- 1:01:50money. The notion of even being young in an office
- 1:01:53like Kennedy having kids, babies while he was
- 1:01:57at like. They used to be young family men in
- 1:02:00national political positions was was common,
- 1:02:03including all the way up to the presidency. Now
- 1:02:05look at like Pelosi and McConnell and all of
- 1:02:09these freaking ancient. They've been in power
- 1:02:11for 50 years, six years. The average age of the
- 1:02:14U .S. Senate. is 65. These people, yeah, and
- 1:02:18they white knuckle these positions all the way
- 1:02:22into their 80s, I don't know, 90s, you know,
- 1:02:25like, what was Strom Thurmond, 158? You know,
- 1:02:28I mean, I know that there's probably like, well,
- 1:02:30what about the district rep for Beaver Falls,
- 1:02:33North Dakota? He's a family, like, I know that
- 1:02:35it exists. But if you look at the national level,
- 1:02:38it's a completely different landscape. and it's
- 1:02:40because the old yeah but the exceptions don't
- 1:02:42prove the rules right they prove the exceptions
- 1:02:44don't prove the rules they prove the exceptions
- 1:02:46yeah old people control everything yeah we are
- 1:02:51a geriatric society and have and the boomer the
- 1:02:53boomers have been the it generation they will
- 1:02:56not let go since they were born Yep, they will
- 1:02:59not let go. Their parents doted on them. And
- 1:03:01well, I mean, I think a lot of the silent generation
- 1:03:03where they were shit parents, but they gave their
- 1:03:06kids everything that they could because they
- 1:03:07themselves didn't have anything. So boomers grew
- 1:03:09up not wanting much. Boomers grew up in an economic
- 1:03:13situation with an economic engine, the likes
- 1:03:16of which you and I will never ever see. ever.
- 1:03:19And a lot of it is just the way the system was
- 1:03:21set up. And then when boomers became a voting
- 1:03:23age and in their 20s and 30s, they just leaned
- 1:03:26into it as hard as they possibly could. And you
- 1:03:28look at the system now and the system is set
- 1:03:31up for everything that the boomers needed and
- 1:03:34wanted. And the boomers have had control since
- 1:03:38their mid 20s. You remember in the 60s even the
- 1:03:42early 60s the early to mid 60s the whole movement
- 1:03:44was the future is now old man So don't trust
- 1:03:48anyone over 30 love and Froot Loops Don't trust
- 1:03:50any and those were the boomers who were doing
- 1:03:53that it was you know down with the man Well,
- 1:03:56now the the boomers are the man and they've been
- 1:03:58the man for 30 years Really for long long way
- 1:04:02longer than that, but I'm trying to be generous
- 1:04:05You know, they're well known as the first generation
- 1:04:08to ever do drugs with their kids. They're well
- 1:04:10known as the first generation to be like the,
- 1:04:12I want to be the cool parent kids. They're the
- 1:04:14first generation to not spank their kids. They're
- 1:04:16the first generation to have everything they
- 1:04:18ever wanted as a generation and the best economic
- 1:04:22engine and the most wealth accumulation in all
- 1:04:25of human history. Let that sink in. Meanwhile,
- 1:04:32their kids Have had one of the worst economic
- 1:04:36engines to deal with in Not in all of human history,
- 1:04:39but in modern times in the u .s. Anyways now
- 1:04:44Millennials like to complain but they do have
- 1:04:46a case in a lot of in a lot of ways. We have
- 1:04:49a case Yeah, we do. I were 40 trillion dollars.
- 1:04:52Anyways, the point is taking away half our money
- 1:04:54all the time Like you you like the boomers have
- 1:04:56presided over this kareen into all of it. Yeah,
- 1:05:00it's true It is true. Welfare, the war, the wealth
- 1:05:03transfers. Even COVID was a massive wealth transfer.
- 1:05:072008 was a massive wealth transfer from young
- 1:05:10to old. COVID, a massive wealth transfer from
- 1:05:14young to old. Every single time you tax the working
- 1:05:18young in any way, shape, or form, which is fucking
- 1:05:20everything now, we get taxed on everything now,
- 1:05:23the working young. It goes towards Medicare,
- 1:05:28Social Security. real estate prices well guess
- 1:05:33where all of boomers wealth tends to exist their
- 1:05:36homes their assets that are in like the stock
- 1:05:40market that are inflated by a weak dollar Medicare
- 1:05:43and Social Security well it's all wealth transfer
- 1:05:47stuff So and political fuckery is obviously not
- 1:05:52unique to the boomers, nor are economic cycles.
- 1:05:56None of it is unique necessarily to the boomers,
- 1:05:58but you'll forgive us for observing the at least
- 1:06:02certainly current and what seems like particularly
- 1:06:05virulent nature of what has happened as we, you
- 1:06:08know, observe the boomers as we get into our
- 1:06:11age that you guys were 20 years ago. In size
- 1:06:15and scale and execution of it all. and in duration
- 1:06:20of regime. The boomers are unique in all four
- 1:06:23of those factors. And that's why they kind of
- 1:06:25get the extra hate because they're like no generation
- 1:06:27before them has lasted as fucking long and has
- 1:06:30refused to give up. Like you said, they're white
- 1:06:33knuckling till the bitter end. The boomers will
- 1:06:36not give anything up, power money or otherwise,
- 1:06:39until they die. We will have to pry it from their
- 1:06:42cold dead fingers. And then whatever's left,
- 1:06:45which will be mostly ashes, is ours to fight
- 1:06:50over. So it's just kind of, it's just that way.
- 1:06:53That's the truth. It's just how it is. Sorry.
- 1:06:57I'm sorry. Sorry, not sorry, but also sorry,
- 1:07:00because it sucks for everybody below you. And
- 1:07:03you know, it's a generation that has mortgaged
- 1:07:05their kids and their grandkids into oblivion
- 1:07:08for themselves and are unapologetic about it.
- 1:07:12That's just the truth. But before we do mid show
- 1:07:14here, like just want to round it out by reiterating
- 1:07:18that it does not apply to Paul or I with regard
- 1:07:22to how our boomer fathers specifically handled
- 1:07:26these matters does not apply. So this is not
- 1:07:29sour grapes. And if we went on anecdotal evidence,
- 1:07:32these are not our observations necessarily in
- 1:07:35our own personal lives for each other. That is
- 1:07:38correct. For most of my friends. You are incorrect.
- 1:07:42My anecdotal evidence is quite the opposite of
- 1:07:45mine. My father is the exception. Your father
- 1:07:48is the exception. They don't prove the rule.
- 1:07:50And at times, my father had to argue with my
- 1:07:52mother to support my business and my ventures
- 1:07:56the way he did. They fought amongst themselves
- 1:07:58about it because my mom didn't agree with it
- 1:08:00at times. And then it was weird because the script
- 1:08:02flipped later on. I don't know and so at different
- 1:08:07times one of my parents was responsible for lending
- 1:08:10the Support needed and and also same for you
- 1:08:14since we're telling our stories a little bit.
- 1:08:16It was all done in business Nothing was handed.
- 1:08:20Nothing was free. It was all done business. I
- 1:08:23paid full price, you know interest rates loans
- 1:08:27and all it was it was just like business and
- 1:08:30that's how I wanted it and Because it just makes
- 1:08:32everything cleaner and better for everybody.
- 1:08:36That's how it needed to be. But there were no
- 1:08:38handouts. There were no hand -me -downs. There
- 1:08:40were no handouts. And I know your situation was
- 1:08:42the same too, Scott. It was my parents and your
- 1:08:44parents. They invested in us and they got a return
- 1:08:48on their investment, as they should. So that's
- 1:08:51largely true. It's not completely true in my
- 1:08:53case. Well, I haven't gotten like gifts, not
- 1:08:56just straight up like here's a lot, whatever.
- 1:08:59It's all been treated like... you know, there's
- 1:09:01mostly investments, like you're saying, investments
- 1:09:03in real estate, investments in business ventures.
- 1:09:05There has been some like, oh, if you need this,
- 1:09:08or you need that, we're here, but there's a ledger.
- 1:09:11I mean, nothing has really been gifted, but I
- 1:09:14do represent an exception for how my boomer,
- 1:09:17specifically father, has thought about money.
- 1:09:20But the only reason I'm even bringing that up
- 1:09:21is because the anonymous boomer here says that
- 1:09:25anecdotally, He doesn't know a single boomer
- 1:09:28who doesn't plan to leave the bulk of their bubble
- 1:09:29I get like I was reading the note at the top
- 1:09:31which is simply a reflection of The crowd that
- 1:09:35that person hangs out with which is a great reflection
- 1:09:38on them Obviously you're hanging out with a bunch
- 1:09:40of exceptions and that's that's a reflection
- 1:09:41on you and your choice of company Not of boomers
- 1:09:45as a group Yeah, no argument there at all. It
- 1:09:49means you probably are of a higher caliber, you're
- 1:09:52above average, and the group you surround yourself
- 1:09:54with, the people you surround yourself with,
- 1:09:56are above average of caliber. And that's awesome.
- 1:10:00You would probably find it as distasteful as
- 1:10:02we do to hang around with the types of boomers
- 1:10:04that we're even describing here that are driving
- 1:10:06the statistics, which is why you don't. Yeah,
- 1:10:10no, agreed, agreed. Again, no argument on that.
- 1:10:13And that's also, yeah, to your point, I was I
- 1:10:15was going to mention before you beat me to it.
- 1:10:17But that's why we brought up our own anecdotal
- 1:10:18evidence is because he he brings up his anecdotal
- 1:10:20evidence. And he's like, yeah, on my end, none
- 1:10:22of them, none of my boomer buddies talk like
- 1:10:24this. And I'm and I'm over here going, well,
- 1:10:26on my end, I know what all of my millennial friends
- 1:10:28are dealing with. And for the record, like when
- 1:10:31it comes to our kids, you know, Scott and I talk
- 1:10:33about this all the time. And and all of my other
- 1:10:36buddies who Scott knows, you know, Steve and
- 1:10:39Jason and Dave and all the guys who are all high
- 1:10:41caliber men, we're all millennials with kids,
- 1:10:45or very, very young, very, very, very young Gen
- 1:10:48X. But we're, you know, we're all cuspy right
- 1:10:50on the cusp either upper millennial or lower
- 1:10:52Gen X. You know, we're looking at it all in a
- 1:10:55generational wealth lens. And we have to, and
- 1:10:58we are. So my kids will be able to tell their
- 1:11:02friends or their podcast listeners that like,
- 1:11:04yeah, my dad set me up with a house and I paid
- 1:11:08him a mortgage on it, but not really. It was
- 1:11:10like a rent to own situation. Like my dad bought
- 1:11:13the house. He put me and my wife in the house
- 1:11:15so we could have babies and work and not have
- 1:11:17to worry about being crushed with a $5 ,000 mortgage.
- 1:11:20And then we just made payments and we bought
- 1:11:23the house from my dad making payment. Like, you
- 1:11:26know, cause that's what I'm going to do for my
- 1:11:27kids. If I can, That's the plan because I want
- 1:11:31them to live nearby I don't want my I don't want
- 1:11:33my son to be like well the job is in is in Portland
- 1:11:36because drugs are legal there and that's all
- 1:11:38my heroin And I go well alright, I guess I guess
- 1:11:43we'll see you at Thanksgiving Christmas and Easter
- 1:11:46in between Yeah, fuck that no I want my kids
- 1:11:51to live within an hour and a half or two hours
- 1:11:53of me And I will do everything in my power to
- 1:11:56make it so that if I if I have to be more poor
- 1:11:59Mary and I, my wife, we've talked about this
- 1:12:01ad nauseam. We will be more poor to make sure
- 1:12:04our kids can live close by, get married, have
- 1:12:07babies, and not have to be crushed by debt and
- 1:12:12mortgages and things like that. And then we can
- 1:12:14all be a family and be nearby. And most people
- 1:12:18in my orbit, you, Scott, and all the other guys
- 1:12:20I just listed, we all are doing that. Yes, and
- 1:12:24that's the difference. That's the difference.
- 1:12:25I didn't have the same structure with my first
- 1:12:29house either, but I would not have been able
- 1:12:32to purchase my first house if it wasn't for the
- 1:12:36help of my boomer dad who made it happen. But
- 1:12:38it was a gift, but like you're saying, it was
- 1:12:40a similar structure, but he enabled it to happen,
- 1:12:43which again makes him an exception, gratefully.
- 1:12:47Yeah. Anyway, so that was that was again we took
- 1:12:50the scenic route but it was important context
- 1:12:52matters background matters history matters and
- 1:12:54also Scott and I also want everybody to understand
- 1:12:57that we you know, we're being genuine here and
- 1:12:59it's not bitterness It's not sour grapes, but
- 1:13:01we're noticers. We notice stuff and we know and
- 1:13:04it's true. What's the truth hurts man? Governor
- 1:13:07Brad little has ordered state officials to keep
- 1:13:09spending Well, that makes sense, being a boomer.
- 1:13:12Hey, while you guys are still clinging to power,
- 1:13:14all you 85 -year -old senators, keep spending
- 1:13:16while you still can before you die. It's almost
- 1:13:21like the generation that believes in dying with
- 1:13:24zero is in charge of the government. Almost as
- 1:13:28if. Well, I think on no ID we're going to die
- 1:13:32with zero, unless the value for value model is
- 1:13:36embraced. The value for value model is very simple.
- 1:13:40It's what this show runs on as I alluded to at
- 1:13:43the top. It is the opposite of the traditional
- 1:13:46model in broadcast, which is to accumulate people's
- 1:13:49ears or eyes or whatever, and then sell them
- 1:13:51crap. We don't do that. It's the opposite. It's
- 1:13:55value for value. And it simply means that you
- 1:13:57will never hear advertisements on the show. There
- 1:13:59are no sponsors. We remain free of brackish outside
- 1:14:02influence. We survive solely on your time, talent
- 1:14:06and treasure. returning value to the program
- 1:14:09if you find it valuable. But I am going to say
- 1:14:13this from time to time, if there's a product,
- 1:14:15especially a local product from a friend of mine
- 1:14:17or whatever that I'm really enjoying, I might,
- 1:14:18you know, I might shout it out and just give
- 1:14:20a little love to people we care about. You absolutely
- 1:14:23should. And that is very much part of the value
- 1:14:25for value model. They're not sponsors. But as
- 1:14:29a matter of fact, what it really amounts to is
- 1:14:31genuine. It's a genuine way to broadcast. And
- 1:14:34when you discuss the coffee roaster that you
- 1:14:37love the coffee, what's the name again? Spencer
- 1:14:40Lambest of Wilder Coffee. That's how you know
- 1:14:42that we actually like the product. It has nothing
- 1:14:44to do with being pitched anything. It's a genuine,
- 1:14:47hey, we dig this. Can I basically I'll never
- 1:14:51do another podcast without it. It's so good and
- 1:14:54he's a cool dude and he smokes cigars Which makes
- 1:14:56him even cooler of a dude, you know what his
- 1:14:59side gig is. Sorry now I've got to tell I was
- 1:15:01about to I was really short story Kristoff cigars.
- 1:15:03Yeah, it was Kristoff. Yes Kristoff's Yeah, and
- 1:15:08and he one of his other side gigs is he sells
- 1:15:10snakes. He goes to like reptile shows and swaps
- 1:15:14snakes It's wild. I never met a guy who's a who
- 1:15:18does that but it Well, other than Spencer, it's
- 1:15:20cool. Yeah, like Kevin Kristoff. Like, yeah,
- 1:15:24yes. Another good guy to talk about. I've been
- 1:15:26every time I've been at the racketeer in recent
- 1:15:29months, I have bought Kristoff cigars. And that's
- 1:15:31not because they're sponsoring us. And it's not
- 1:15:33because of anything other than it's value for
- 1:15:36value. Yeah. Good products and voluntary transactions
- 1:15:41based on value perceived. Snake Swapper is now
- 1:15:44in the running for show title. Yes, Snake Swapper.
- 1:15:47Oh, man, if we do that, I'm gonna have to share
- 1:15:49this episode with Spencer. You should be sharing
- 1:15:52it anyway, you doofus. I have, I've shared it
- 1:15:55twice. Okay, good. So that's part of the Value
- 1:15:57for Value model, returning value. If you find
- 1:16:00the program valuable, we try to make it valuable
- 1:16:02every week. It comes out every Thursday. There's
- 1:16:03no paywalls, there's no nothing. It's just free
- 1:16:05and it's the best we can make it. And if you
- 1:16:07find it valuable, then please return value to
- 1:16:09the show with your time, talent, or treasure.
- 1:16:11Time is a... the probably the biggest time a
- 1:16:14value return you could do at this point is what
- 1:16:16Paul doesn't do even though he just says he does,
- 1:16:18but I don't trust Paul statistics. Telling people
- 1:16:21about the show. Word of mouth is how shows like
- 1:16:24this girl and if you you're basically you're
- 1:16:28you're lending us your credibility really is
- 1:16:30what it is by by recommending the show to others
- 1:16:32in your orbit. And it's a huge value which we
- 1:16:34will repay with interest. What else? I have a
- 1:16:40whole notepad here full of stuff. What? Oh, what
- 1:16:44happened? My browser froze. Hold on. Oh, crap.
- 1:16:49The disease erased your memory. I got the I got
- 1:16:51like the the hourglass, the flipping hourglass.
- 1:16:55OK, it's good. All right. Show art, audio clips,
- 1:16:58articles, boots on the ground, reports, topics
- 1:17:01you think we should cover, follow ups like the
- 1:17:03Riverkeeper follow up that we're about to do
- 1:17:04after the break. Things we got right. Things
- 1:17:06we got wrong. All of these things are ways to
- 1:17:09return value in the time and talent department
- 1:17:11No ID pod at gmail .com is an email address that
- 1:17:14you can send anything you want to No ID show
- 1:17:17.com is the webpage where you can sign up for
- 1:17:20the newsletter That comes out every Thursday
- 1:17:22if you would like to do that. I try to make it
- 1:17:24funny and interesting That's a cool way to stay
- 1:17:26in touch with what the show is doing just previews
- 1:17:28the topics of that week show and whatnot It also
- 1:17:31is the portal. No ID show .com is the portal
- 1:17:33to return value in the treasure department And
- 1:17:37doing so makes you an executive producer of that
- 1:17:39week's episode. And that could mean any any whatever
- 1:17:42value means to you. Just ask yourself what value
- 1:17:44got out of the show and return value in any way
- 1:17:46that you like. In the treasured department, we
- 1:17:48got a couple this week after a banducci wealth
- 1:17:53induced drought, where, you know, he's he's he's
- 1:17:56just hammering money hand over fist. So you then
- 1:18:00a little drought there. But you're blaming me.
- 1:18:02Oh, OK. People are back now. Um, so let's leave
- 1:18:05here. So this was a sound drop for being thrown
- 1:18:08under the bus. Hold on. Maybe we can do that.
- 1:18:13Remember the, remember the, the airplane turbulence
- 1:18:17PSA from love line. And it was the, the gut,
- 1:18:20the rollerblading that your body was built for.
- 1:18:21And there was the cars honking and skidding,
- 1:18:23maybe something like that. Yes. Yes. okay so
- 1:18:28let's do the agenda archaeologist as I brought
- 1:18:31up at the top of the show who had recommended
- 1:18:32that we do the previous episode sound drops catalog
- 1:18:35him at the beginning which we did and I love
- 1:18:37that he did send in a shiny schmeckle of 999
- 1:18:42and that's why he that's why I had done the the
- 1:18:47999 from the llama liquor although it just we
- 1:18:51decided it's probably not It just doesn't have
- 1:18:56that doesn't punch it doesn't it's cuz he's on
- 1:18:58this doesn't have that German fury and passion
- 1:19:02999 from the shot from the agenda archaeologist
- 1:19:09and his the rest of his note says I Recovered
- 1:19:12three previously unknown specimens buried beneath
- 1:19:14the sediment of mainstream discourse one appears
- 1:19:17to be a local official experiencing consequences
- 1:19:20Another is approximately 40 % bureaucratic nonsense
- 1:19:23The third may simply be Paul. The acoustical
- 1:19:26team is still determining whether these constitute
- 1:19:29evidence. In the meantime, I recommend repeated
- 1:19:31listens. I have no idea what most of that means,
- 1:19:35but I appreciate that. I want to know. Wait,
- 1:19:38hold on. Would you like to know more? Yes. Yes,
- 1:19:41I would. I would like to know more. What? Come
- 1:19:43on, archaeologists. I'm on the edge of my seat.
- 1:19:46What does this mean? I want to run it through
- 1:19:48Google Translate, but I don't know what the source
- 1:19:50language is. All right, maybe he'll maybe he'll
- 1:19:53give us more next week maybe so like and then
- 1:19:56but then you know Like just give us breadcrumbs.
- 1:19:58I don't well then he returned to coherence for
- 1:20:01what if the previous episode sound drops were
- 1:20:03cataloged at the beginning of the next episode
- 1:20:04Well, that made sense the rest of it. I I cannot
- 1:20:07decipher Oh and whatever. Well, we need him to
- 1:20:10decipher this hieroglyph that he's laid on us
- 1:20:13Thank you agenda. I don't speak this dialect
- 1:20:16And then it's an older code sir, but it checks
- 1:20:20out repeated and frequent executive producer
- 1:20:24Jack Kramer is back with one two three four and
- 1:20:29his note is shorter and more coherent and in
- 1:20:32fact to say it's really a question for all you
- 1:20:35producers out there Jack says I get value do
- 1:20:39you Is that a rhetorical? I mean, I do. I have
- 1:20:45a good time. That's that. Well, again, I suppose
- 1:20:48I don't. Oh, maybe he's talking to Paul. I assume
- 1:20:49that he was talking to all the producers that
- 1:20:51are hearing him ask that question such that it
- 1:20:54might induce them to pick up a handheld mirror
- 1:20:56and stare into it for a long time. But maybe
- 1:20:59he's just asking you. I don't know. Do you get
- 1:21:01any value? It depends. Where's the decimal point
- 1:21:07in that one, two, three, four? Let's leave it
- 1:21:13at that. Time, talent, treasure, return value.
- 1:21:15Wait, you're not going to tell me? Oh, it's $12
- 1:21:18.34. One, two, three, four. Nice. Yeah. Well,
- 1:21:22it could have been like one dot two, three, four,
- 1:21:25which would have been really cool. Like a fourth
- 1:21:27of a cent. Oh, I see. Or one, two, three, dot
- 1:21:31four would have been cool, too. Whatever, though.
- 1:21:34It's like... I'm saying whatever value means
- 1:21:36to you, it means a lot of different things to
- 1:21:37a lot of different people. You know, $5 could
- 1:21:39mean a lot to you and $500 could be nothing.
- 1:21:42You know, especially if you're a boomer, you
- 1:21:45know, $500 just means nothing to you because
- 1:21:47you have it all, you know, just saying. Thank
- 1:21:53you, Jack Kramer. Thank you, Archaeologist. Appreciate
- 1:21:56you both. You have your Schmechel thing. I'm
- 1:21:58going to ponder Jack's question now. Oh, do I
- 1:22:02have a song? Yeah, I have a song. Yeah, but first...
- 1:22:05Oh, hold on. I got that too. I know where you're
- 1:22:07going. Hold on. I was toggling. Toggling. So
- 1:22:10much toggling. I'll take you down there for 25
- 1:22:14shmeckles! 25 shmeckles? I don't know how much...
- 1:22:18I don't know what that is. Is that a lot? Is
- 1:22:19it a little? Alright, what's coming up before
- 1:22:22second half? DJ Paul. I'm going with my original
- 1:22:25pick. Yeah, I'm going with it because I think
- 1:22:27it's just so apropos now that we've covered some
- 1:22:29of the ground we've covered regarding the government
- 1:22:32having more and the youngins having less. Spinning
- 1:22:36records and inventing statistics. It's DJ Paul.
- 1:22:40This is your last announcement. Brought to you
- 1:22:42by Public School. You've had a great year and
- 1:22:44I'm proud of each and every one of you. Have
- 1:22:46we all just pay our fair share? Right? I just
- 1:22:49want to wish you all good luck. You're gonna
- 1:22:52need it. you shouldn't have to pay tax to breathe
- 1:26:05if that sounds bonkers to you it's because it
- 1:26:15is all right second half is you ready i am um
- 1:26:22i regret to inform you i have once again failed
- 1:26:25in my duties i don't have a scotch shot i did
- 1:26:28dabble with two or three and decided i hated
- 1:26:30them all so That's that's the story there. I'm
- 1:26:35gonna find something else next you fuck you And
- 1:26:41while we're on that topic I just want to throw
- 1:26:43out a suggestion to the state legislature That
- 1:26:47next year we should put on the ballot Deciding
- 1:26:49the state bird and I have just the best idea
- 1:26:53for what the state bird ought to be I'm on the
- 1:26:58edge of my seat three guesses and the first two
- 1:27:00don't count parrot Oh, you can't see it, but
- 1:27:04I'm pointing a finger. Oh, the one you flip.
- 1:27:12The best bird. The best bird. Got it. That should
- 1:27:19be the state bird. Yeah, man, I thought that
- 1:27:22one was an easy setup for you. Fail. You failed.
- 1:27:24F, yeah. All right. Here is the... Go ahead.
- 1:27:30One other thing I wanted to touch on real fast
- 1:27:31before I forget, and I'm sorry, Scott, I'm interjecting.
- 1:27:35What was his name? I actually don't know the
- 1:27:36guy's name, but the boomer guy. Oh, well, he
- 1:27:38didn't give his name. Anonymous Boomer. Anonymous
- 1:27:41Boomer, yeah. Well, what his handle was, I guess.
- 1:27:45He did mention something interesting I wanted
- 1:27:46to touch back on really quick about the assets
- 1:27:49once boomers do finally, finally at the ripe
- 1:27:52old age of like 102 pass into the great beyond.
- 1:27:56He's not. Wrong and it is something that's been
- 1:27:59discussed is what happens to the assets the stock
- 1:28:01the stock market assets the IRAs the 401ks housing
- 1:28:05that kind of thing Because it's an interesting
- 1:28:08thing to ponder is yeah will will the market
- 1:28:11value of those things plummet and plummet quickly
- 1:28:14if there is a wave of Wealth transfer and then
- 1:28:18sell -offs Well, I think there's a small potential
- 1:28:22for some for that scenario to play out. I think
- 1:28:25it's pretty pretty low odds because the boomer
- 1:28:30generation spans 1945 to 1964. It's one of the
- 1:28:35bigger wider generations. And only about 12,
- 1:28:42it's 10 to 12 % of boomers hold 70 % of the boomers
- 1:28:46wealth. which stands, I think when we talked
- 1:28:49about it last week at like 128 trillion dollars
- 1:28:52or some crazy ass thing, but 10 % of boomers
- 1:28:55hold 70 % of that. So, and they're already set
- 1:28:59up for generational wealth and trusts and irrevocable
- 1:29:03trusts and all kinds of different things. So
- 1:29:04a lot of that transfer either, it won't really
- 1:29:07happen because it's already quote unquote happened
- 1:29:09or will only affect a small portion of the population
- 1:29:14in general, but also as, what is that, close
- 1:29:18to 20 years of people kind of phase out. Cause
- 1:29:22right now the older boomers are in their mid
- 1:29:24eighties. The youngest boomers. Yeah. And they're
- 1:29:26all in Congress this year. Yeah. They're all
- 1:29:29in Congress. Oh my God. Yeah. Taking three months
- 1:29:33leaves of absence too, by the way. So it'll,
- 1:29:38it'll be something that occurs across 20 plus
- 1:29:40years. It won't be an all at once type thing.
- 1:29:44You're talking about a generation that spans
- 1:29:4620 plus years of wealth that is unevenly distributed.
- 1:29:49We're in the middle of it now. I mean, it's been
- 1:29:51already going on because of the huge, like you're
- 1:29:54saying, the huge wide window. There's already
- 1:29:55been. They're dying. They're dead. They're in
- 1:29:58the middle of dying. They're going to die soon.
- 1:30:00They're going to die in 15 years. It's just starting,
- 1:30:04Scott. Don't get too excited yet. Put that boner
- 1:30:07away. I'm so excited. No, dude, it's just starting.
- 1:30:14We've barely seen it begin. Dude, right now,
- 1:30:18the average age of is, what is it? Oh shit. What
- 1:30:21is the mortality rate right now? It's high and
- 1:30:24it continues to get higher. The oldest boomers
- 1:30:26are in their low to mid eighties. The average
- 1:30:30age of death is like 80, 81, 82. It's above 80.
- 1:30:35It is above 80. Yeah. Yeah and 81 and change
- 1:30:38It says the average life expectancy in the United
- 1:30:42States is 79. It's 81 .4 years of age for women
- 1:30:46and oh wow men totally lose that one 76 and a
- 1:30:51half years for men. Whoa, is it that low? Wait
- 1:30:54a minute Paul's making up statistics No No, it's
- 1:30:58not true. You just, just, man, everybody sharpened
- 1:31:01in their knives today on the stats. I, I Googled
- 1:31:03it. It can't be wrong. No, it's a, it's per the
- 1:31:09CDC. And this is actually one of the things the
- 1:31:12CDC is supposed to track. This is actually supposed
- 1:31:15to be a CDC thing. But you know, you know how
- 1:31:21to get it above 76. We've got drugs for that.
- 1:31:25We know drugs. Six of them to be in every month.
- 1:31:31Just stand still while we jab you harder. Brought
- 1:31:35to you by Pfizer. It is kind of crazy that that
- 1:31:40window is nuts. So someone born in 1946, when
- 1:31:45they're 17 years old, a senior in high school,
- 1:31:48someone born that year is considered part of
- 1:31:50the same generation. What is that? That person's
- 1:31:53already grown up. How does that make sense? Yeah,
- 1:31:56well, that's what makes it such a unique again.
- 1:31:58It's a unique generation. And I know we might
- 1:32:01get some eye rolls here as we just continue to
- 1:32:03hammer this topic. But it's a it's a very relevant
- 1:32:05topic politically, ideologically, economically.
- 1:32:08I mean, like, geez me, Christmas, the world we
- 1:32:10live in was essentially shaped, completely shaped
- 1:32:14by the silent generation and the boomers. It's
- 1:32:17the higher powers. It matters. Our higher powers.
- 1:32:22Thank you. You're the man. But women live to
- 1:32:2581 .4 on average, men to 76 .5. That's just wild.
- 1:32:28So I'm 38. That means I only have, I have fully
- 1:32:31lived one half of my life. Fuck, I'm over the
- 1:32:33hill next year. Red convertible incoming. That's
- 1:32:36disappointing. Shit, I only have 38 more years
- 1:32:41to have the Federal Reserve keep printing the
- 1:32:44money I need. But the point is, Boomers are unique
- 1:32:48also in that way is they are not only population
- 1:32:51wise one of the bigger generations, but there's
- 1:32:52their time wise spread out over one of the longer
- 1:32:57periods of time 1945 to 1964. I think it's 46
- 1:33:02close enough. Yeah Okay. Well, what does the
- 1:33:07Google machine say? Pfizer says Oh, okay. 46.
- 1:33:18You win. Everything says 46. Thank you. Excuse
- 1:33:25me. Excuse me. I'm off by a year. I can't remember
- 1:33:28everything perfectly. Making statistics up. There
- 1:33:32I go again. Just pulling them right out of my
- 1:33:34pocket. All right. Are we ready to do the river?
- 1:33:37It's a wide enough generation that not everything
- 1:33:39is going to get spent off, you know, transferred
- 1:33:42all at the same time or spent all at the same
- 1:33:44time. And if there is anything like, cause a
- 1:33:45lot of it's going to get spent on keeping the
- 1:33:47boomers alive forever. Yeah. Average age of,
- 1:33:50I guess when you split 65 and 81, it's a five
- 1:33:53year split. So let's say the average age is 79
- 1:33:56and change. I mean, geez me to Christmas. They're
- 1:33:59going to live forever. Yeah, the home prices
- 1:34:03might go down for our kids, Scott. They're not
- 1:34:06going to go down for us because there's not enough
- 1:34:07housing now and the millennial generation is
- 1:34:10smaller than the boomer generation. So by the
- 1:34:12time the boomers finally die out and Gen X is
- 1:34:15kind of on the way and you and I are like 60
- 1:34:17something, then the shit might like normalize
- 1:34:23and our kids might have normal house prices.
- 1:34:25Maybe just be just be just by sheer coincidence,
- 1:34:30but just sheer happening of just population decline.
- 1:34:34So available housing will actually match population
- 1:34:37sizes. Since we've decided, again, thanks to
- 1:34:41boomers, mainly NIMBYs and county codes and state
- 1:34:44codes and building codes, and that's all boomers,
- 1:34:47mainly, making building housing fucking impossible
- 1:34:50and prohibitively expensive. It's not something
- 1:34:53that's going to sort itself out anytime soon.
- 1:34:55We basically, our strategy is we have to wait
- 1:34:57for people to die before our kids will. See normal
- 1:35:01house like market normal house prices or I mean
- 1:35:04that that extends to so many things I mean everything
- 1:35:07is becoming prohibitively expensive I mean, you
- 1:35:09know, you can't fill up your tractor with diesel
- 1:35:12because diesel is eight bucks a gallon Yeah,
- 1:35:14but it is like that's not a supply and demand
- 1:35:16issue. No, it's not that's what I'm saying. I
- 1:35:18mean not the market It's all been messed with
- 1:35:21Yeah, I mean that said so housing is more specifically
- 1:35:24a supply and demand issue in in the sense We're
- 1:35:26like we just literally do not have enough housing
- 1:35:29for the population that exists and it is almost
- 1:35:32exclusively due to government Distortion of the
- 1:35:35marketplace almost exclusively between the Fed
- 1:35:38printing money and making the dollar worth significantly
- 1:35:41less But you know real estate going up because
- 1:35:44we're just not building etc etc etc Prohibitive
- 1:35:48building codes land use codes etc etc whereas
- 1:35:51like everything else groceries food oil All the
- 1:35:56you know clothing construction supplies all that
- 1:35:59shit is because of monetary policy the Fed fuck
- 1:36:01the Fed and foreign policy Just choking off the
- 1:36:07trade points the distribution network It's not
- 1:36:11that we don't have enough oil or enough cotton
- 1:36:14for the clothes or enough lumber or timber for
- 1:36:17the two by fours. There's plenty of all that
- 1:36:19shit. The raw resources, there's plenty of raw
- 1:36:22resources. We just, our monetary policy and our
- 1:36:27foreign policy is what's fucking us there. Yeah,
- 1:36:29yeah. Have you thought more about which vintage
- 1:36:31firearm should be Idaho's official state gun?
- 1:36:35The green one. All right, here is the at long
- 1:36:39last the follow -up on the river keeper today
- 1:36:41is world cleanup day a global movement Encouraging
- 1:36:44everyone to take extra care of the environment
- 1:36:47around them the River keeper and lands council
- 1:36:49organized tons of volunteers to pick up trash
- 1:36:52from in and around the Spokane River today Sunny
- 1:36:55day was at the event talking to volunteers about
- 1:36:57why they chose to come help This is just a tiny
- 1:37:00fraction of the amount of trash that's being
- 1:37:02picked up at today's annual river cleanup. There
- 1:37:05are hundreds of volunteers out here today and
- 1:37:07they've already filled an entire truckload with
- 1:37:10trash. Event organizers told me just 30 minutes
- 1:37:12into the cleanup, 150 people had already shown
- 1:37:15up to help out. This year featured a special
- 1:37:18new bag volunteers could use to collect recycling.
- 1:37:21It's made entirely from reused materials like
- 1:37:24pet food bags and even banners left over from
- 1:37:26Expo 74. A representative for the Spokane Riverkeeper
- 1:37:30emphasized the importance of the river to our
- 1:37:32community and said this annual cleanup is vital.
- 1:37:35The river is the lifeblood of our community and
- 1:37:39if it's our source of water, if we don't protect
- 1:37:42the river, everybody fails, everybody loses.
- 1:37:47We need to take pride in it and we need to take
- 1:37:50care of it." She says lots of garbage releases
- 1:37:52toxic materials into the river, harming the surrounding
- 1:37:55fish and birds. When those species struggle,
- 1:37:58an entire ecosystem is disrupted, setting off
- 1:38:00a chain reaction that lowers the water quality
- 1:38:03and destroys wildlife. One volunteer who recently
- 1:38:07moved to Spokane said today gave her a chance
- 1:38:09to connect with and contribute to her new community.
- 1:38:12It like helps me get connected to my community.
- 1:38:14I do cleanups wherever I move to so this is the
- 1:38:17second city I've done that in and it just like
- 1:38:20It helps me feel like I belong somewhere and
- 1:38:23that I also do my part to contribute to the place
- 1:38:25I live. Volunteers spanned across seven different
- 1:38:28sites, including Highbridge Park and Mirabu Trailhead.
- 1:38:31One volunteer said it was her fourth river cleanup
- 1:38:33this year. It's the least we can do, right? We
- 1:38:36only have one Earth, so taking care of it, protecting
- 1:38:38it is, you know. It's something close to our
- 1:38:41hearts. The Spokane Riverkeeper tells me that
- 1:38:43they expect to pull thousands of pounds of trash
- 1:38:45out of the river after today's cleanup and hope
- 1:38:48to see even more volunteers at next year's event
- 1:38:50so that they can keep trash like this out of
- 1:38:52the river. In Spokane, Sunny Day, 4 News Now.
- 1:38:56So I thought it was really interesting that this
- 1:38:584 News Now report happened to air this week after
- 1:39:00our follow up conversation with one of our producers,
- 1:39:03Sir Spook of Spokane, who knows the river well
- 1:39:06and is, I won't get too specific, but There was
- 1:39:10a multi -faceted conversation that Paul and I
- 1:39:13had on speakerphone with him over over cigars
- 1:39:16Because he a message had come in last show from
- 1:39:18him and that because he had heard pre whatever
- 1:39:21two shows ago previous segment we did on the
- 1:39:23River keeper because the news coverage that we
- 1:39:26highlighted because it was all that I found in
- 1:39:29previous weeks was more of the hey hey ho ho
- 1:39:31commie side of the Riverkeeper where they're
- 1:39:33like chanting in megaphones and you know saying
- 1:39:36oh the river hath runneth dry and we need more
- 1:39:38regulation on on the the flow from the dam and
- 1:39:42stuff so the I'll try and naturally they're they're
- 1:39:45the ones who get the they're the ones who get
- 1:39:47all the all the attention in the media and the
- 1:39:49press so they're the ones they're they're the
- 1:39:50ones we see yes and as per the As per Sir Spook
- 1:39:55of Spokane, that's their MO, is they do that
- 1:39:59to drum up the media attention, which then drums
- 1:40:02up donations from the Women's Marcher set, let's
- 1:40:08say. And they're trying to raise money. But there
- 1:40:11was a multifaceted, much more nuanced follow
- 1:40:15-up. You want to describe it or you want me to?
- 1:40:19I'm going to let you take the reins on this.
- 1:40:21It was a fantastic conversation. It was illuminating.
- 1:40:23We got a lot of information on it. And it definitely
- 1:40:26changed our perspective, our opinion on the organization
- 1:40:30as a whole. So now, instead of being fully derisive
- 1:40:37of it, now we know that a good half of it is
- 1:40:41actually a very good thing. The other half is
- 1:40:44still very much worthy of derision. Right, exactly.
- 1:40:48And that's why it was interesting that 4 News
- 1:40:50Now happened to air a segment on more highlighting
- 1:40:54that other side of it, which is just the straight
- 1:40:56up... Yeah, the timing is uncanny. Isn't that
- 1:40:58weird? That was literally from like three days
- 1:41:00ago, this 4 News Now report, which I hadn't ever
- 1:41:03found anything like it. I'd only found the hey,
- 1:41:06hey, ho, ho stuff. Sir Spook of Spokane pointed
- 1:41:08out that the other half of the non -highlighted,
- 1:41:11until now, side of Riverkeeper is very much a...
- 1:41:14We actually just get in small craft and go fish
- 1:41:18garbage out of the river. We're putting our money
- 1:41:21where our environmentalist mouths are. We're
- 1:41:22not just yelling into a bullhorn or breaking
- 1:41:25the windows of foot lockers. We're actually,
- 1:41:27we're at the river cleaning up garbage. And that,
- 1:41:30I believe he said, Jule Schultz, who is with
- 1:41:33the Riverkeeper, I don't know, maybe he's an
- 1:41:35executive, or in any case, he's a very big action
- 1:41:37taker on the get in the river and clean up garbage
- 1:41:40front. very worthy of the title River Keepers
- 1:41:43keeping the river. Jule does it like every week
- 1:41:47or more. He's made it sound like it was almost
- 1:41:50a daily thing, but it was definitely a very regular
- 1:41:52thing that Jule himself has personally pulled
- 1:41:55hundreds of thousands of pounds of trash out
- 1:41:58of the river. Right. That that's that's what
- 1:42:00he does is what he's known for and uh, I mean
- 1:42:02this I don't I see no downside to action like
- 1:42:05that Seems like you're doing the lord's work
- 1:42:06and that if you're going to be an activist and
- 1:42:08I found it interesting too They're highlighting
- 1:42:10the girl is like a sense of belonging a sense
- 1:42:12of community Well in in a context like this where
- 1:42:15you're getting together with the stick with the
- 1:42:17poker on the end of it and picking up garbage
- 1:42:19from the from the park like yeah, that's seems
- 1:42:22productive and like you're actually putting you're
- 1:42:26believing in what you say you believe in because
- 1:42:27you're cleaning up you're not just rioting or
- 1:42:30yelling into a bullhorn. So that seemed pretty
- 1:42:33cool that that was highlighted and that it's
- 1:42:35nice to know that that is also going on with
- 1:42:37part of this organization and it's not just a
- 1:42:39commie front. It's classic volunteerism. It's
- 1:42:45what us as libertarians and anarchists always
- 1:42:47talk about. You see a need, you fill the need.
- 1:42:50You see something that needs to happen. You take
- 1:42:52care of it. You see something needs to be done.
- 1:42:53You do it. You don't get moral credit for forcing
- 1:42:57someone else to do it over the barrel of a government
- 1:42:59gun. You know, the taxes are not charity. Charity
- 1:43:04is charity. Doing the thing yourself with your
- 1:43:07time, your money. That's what we're always talking
- 1:43:10about. So well done. Like that was really refreshing
- 1:43:13to hear. as Lucas Vulcan was adamant about. He's
- 1:43:15like, yeah, that other side of it, they're crazy
- 1:43:17commie retards. He goes, but there's a whole
- 1:43:19other side of this organization that does put
- 1:43:23their, you know, metaphorical money where their
- 1:43:26mouths are and have done a lot of great work
- 1:43:29and continue to do a lot of great work. So Scott
- 1:43:31and I both were like, well, hell, that's great
- 1:43:33to know credit where credit is due. We have to
- 1:43:35highlight that because that's that's cool. That's
- 1:43:38exactly the stuff we want to see cheerlead applaud
- 1:43:42for support. Spread the word, because we also
- 1:43:45look at each other and we're like, we got to
- 1:43:46spread the word to our listeners and let them
- 1:43:48know that these opportunities exist if they want
- 1:43:50to. I mean, I'm not going to do it because I
- 1:43:53live in Clark Fork. But, you know, and I'll clean
- 1:43:56up my own rivers up here. But if people want
- 1:44:00the opportunity, they're there. So I thought
- 1:44:02that was cool. Also, Spook of Spokane. I assume
- 1:44:05you were probably going to cover this this other
- 1:44:07part of our conversation with Spook of Spokane,
- 1:44:09Scott, where he kind of gave us some technical.
- 1:44:11Information about on the low river level or the
- 1:44:14river. Yeah variations. Yeah Yeah, yeah, well
- 1:44:18it's so it's it's complex so I'll try to distill
- 1:44:21it as best I can or he was Floating one of the
- 1:44:25many theories that are being bandied about Among
- 1:44:28in these circles of the people who are paying
- 1:44:30close attention to the flows and where things
- 1:44:33are going into the aquifer and what section is
- 1:44:35dry and what section is not and Why it might
- 1:44:38be happening that while as we've mentioned on
- 1:44:40previous shows covering the River keeper There
- 1:44:42are just normal fluctuations and no normally.
- 1:44:45Yes, things are dry. There's there's flow. There's
- 1:44:47no flow. There's it's just there's variation
- 1:44:50in weather, there's variation in water flow,
- 1:44:52that the way they do the dam, the level of like
- 1:44:54Coeur d 'Alene, there's like a million factors
- 1:44:56that go into where there is water and when. But
- 1:44:59he did say it what it has been unusually low
- 1:45:03at certain times in certain places. Now the records
- 1:45:06don't go back that far. And there's there's tribal
- 1:45:09considerations for where what the the tribes
- 1:45:12control You know, I don't know the whole Lake
- 1:45:15Coeur d 'Alene's levels or large parts of it
- 1:45:17and what they say goes as far They have a they
- 1:45:19have an outsized influence on regulation of the
- 1:45:23water level of Coeur d 'Alene Lake which feeds
- 1:45:26the Spokane River and They want the Coeur d 'Alene
- 1:45:29Lake at a certain level and when they speak about
- 1:45:34it It tends to go the way the Coeur d 'Alene
- 1:45:37tribe wants because of course no one wants to
- 1:45:39be on record telling the tribe no That's a whole
- 1:45:43different conversation. And then the dam in Post
- 1:45:47Falls, which is run by Avista, well, that obviously
- 1:45:50regulates the Spokane River as well. And they
- 1:45:53have federal regulations that they have to abide
- 1:45:55by, state regulations they have to abide by.
- 1:45:57And then, of course, power concerns and maintenance
- 1:46:01concerns and all kinds of things they have to
- 1:46:02deal with. So you have many different entities,
- 1:46:05both governmental and NGO and private sector.
- 1:46:09And utility who all have their thumb in the proverbial
- 1:46:13pie and all kind of have the stakeholders if
- 1:46:16you will and there are many of them of varying
- 1:46:18degrees of size power and influence But it's
- 1:46:21not just as simple as I'll just turn the water
- 1:46:23back on or and it's also not as simple as The
- 1:46:28river is dying and there's no more water and
- 1:46:31it's climate change and it's humans faults and
- 1:46:34we're all gonna die It's nowhere near that either
- 1:46:37And there are a number of theories that are floated.
- 1:46:39There is one thing that they have noticed, and
- 1:46:41that is there is more Water loss is not the technical
- 1:46:46term, but it's the term I've got. Leakage, maybe,
- 1:46:49is the term. I don't know. What's the term they
- 1:46:50use, Scott? Do you remember? I don't remember,
- 1:46:52but it was that down into the aquifer. More than.
- 1:46:55There is more leakage. I'm just going to call
- 1:46:58that. Or drainage, if you will, into the aquifer.
- 1:47:00They are noticing that. And so they have formed
- 1:47:04half a dozen different theories as to why. Why
- 1:47:06now? What's going on? And a couple of the theories.
- 1:47:09are really interesting and make a ton of sense.
- 1:47:11One of them, like the most obvious one, which
- 1:47:13I think was the third one he floated, and that
- 1:47:15one stuck with me the most, because Lightning
- 1:47:17Creek that goes right through my five acres here
- 1:47:19does the same thing, is a buildup of sediment
- 1:47:23and rock. Because it could be, one of the theories
- 1:47:26is the water levels haven't really receded and
- 1:47:29we're not losing a ton of water down into the
- 1:47:31aquifer. It just looks like that or feels like
- 1:47:34that because of sediment and material and rock
- 1:47:38buildup. As material moves down the river, well,
- 1:47:42the riverbed get can get higher. So the water
- 1:47:47level looks and feels lower. And the river is
- 1:47:50still there. It's just flowing underground. You
- 1:47:54know, my Arc Creek, right, running through my
- 1:47:57backyard, Arc Creek does that. The creek is still
- 1:47:59running right now. I can't see most of it, but
- 1:48:01it's there. It's just three inches underground
- 1:48:04under the under all the rock and the sediment
- 1:48:07that's in there. But it's there. One of the other
- 1:48:11ones was that because the water, when it warms
- 1:48:14up a little bit, when it's coming from Coeur
- 1:48:15d 'Alene, being a little warmer, he goes, the
- 1:48:17warmer the water, and this again, it's not the
- 1:48:20technical term, there's a scientific technical
- 1:48:22term for it, but the water actually, when it's
- 1:48:24warmer, is a little slipperier. And it can get
- 1:48:30down and through things, obviously, with slippery
- 1:48:32means it can get places more easily and boom,
- 1:48:35there it goes, down into the aquifer. And he
- 1:48:37goes, recently, when things warm up a little
- 1:48:39bit, if the water goes up half a degree in temperature,
- 1:48:42a degree in temperature, it's a little more slippery
- 1:48:44than it was 10 years ago. And so we lose a little
- 1:48:47more into the aquifer. But the water system as
- 1:48:49a whole, and this was the main point, it still
- 1:48:52is very, very healthy and is being replenished
- 1:48:56in the necessary cycles that it needs to be replenished.
- 1:49:01This is not apocalyptic. It's a little quizzical.
- 1:49:04But it's not apocalyptic. Yeah, and it's too
- 1:49:06bad that it's the apocalyptic, hey, hey, ho,
- 1:49:09ho, commie nonsense that is, I guess, what drums
- 1:49:12up donations. It's a shame that that's what has
- 1:49:15to be highlighted in order to get people to action.
- 1:49:19It seems like you would get as many or more if
- 1:49:22you highlighted the cleanup efforts, but apparently
- 1:49:24that's not the strategy they or the mainstream
- 1:49:27media thinks is effective. Well, of course not.
- 1:49:31Sensationalism sells, my friend. You know that.
- 1:49:33Sex and sensationalism. One of the other notes
- 1:49:36from Spookus Bulcan that I thought was really
- 1:49:38cool and interesting was he goes, yeah, when
- 1:49:41we do get these sensationalist reports and you
- 1:49:43see the images of dead fish and things in the
- 1:49:47river, in spots where it's drier or where it
- 1:49:49looks like it's, he goes, actually, what you
- 1:49:51have going on there, he goes, the ecosystem there
- 1:49:53is in good shape. He goes, we have the cleanest
- 1:49:57water in the damn country. He says the two water
- 1:49:59processing plants that we've got around here,
- 1:50:02are hold themselves and are held to standards
- 1:50:06that don't exist like anywhere else. Yes. Another
- 1:50:10reason why another theory and also all of these
- 1:50:14theories could it could be a little bit of all
- 1:50:16of them. It's no one really knows. That's another
- 1:50:18reason that the water has disappeared at a faster
- 1:50:21rate or more is that it's cleaner. So it actually
- 1:50:24flows down and there's not like gunk that is
- 1:50:26stopping the flow to put it crudely. 100 % yet
- 1:50:31the water moves down the river a little bit quicker
- 1:50:33because there's less there's less algae. There's
- 1:50:36less buildup. There's less bacteria. There's
- 1:50:37less You know kind of the mucky miry scummy pondy
- 1:50:42type stuff to build up because the there is no
- 1:50:45nitrates There's no phosphates. There's no nitrates
- 1:50:47the two Plants in the Spokane area have the highest
- 1:50:51state. That's also why it's so expensive It's
- 1:50:53insanely expensive, but they far outpace and
- 1:50:57outs and exceed the necessary, the actual necessary
- 1:51:01specifications for putting water back into the
- 1:51:03system. They're like, so I think Spookispulcan,
- 1:51:06he was laughing about it. He goes, it's so laughably
- 1:51:09advanced what we're doing up here with this water.
- 1:51:13No one else comes close. And it actually might
- 1:51:15be contributing to the lack of water later in
- 1:51:19the season because it just moves that much faster
- 1:51:21downstream because there's nothing to build up
- 1:51:23and stop it. But then with all of the, like when
- 1:51:26they show pictures of the dead fish and whatnot,
- 1:51:29Spook of Spokane was laughing again and he goes,
- 1:51:31yeah, what they're showing you is non -native
- 1:51:34species. He goes, the ecosystems in great shape
- 1:51:36and the species that are from here that should
- 1:51:39be here, they're doing fine. The counts are all
- 1:51:42good. They migrate up and downstream like they're
- 1:51:44supposed to. The plants are fine. The fish are
- 1:51:46fine. Everything's fine. What you're seeing are
- 1:51:48non -native bass coming down from the Coeur d
- 1:51:52'Alene River that were brought here 20 years
- 1:51:54ago from somewhere else. They don't belong here.
- 1:51:56But so when the water heats up or moves, they
- 1:51:59die. The b -roll of the carcass, the skeletal
- 1:52:03fish carcass on the dry rock and then the anchors
- 1:52:06like, I'm Irving Farquhar. Four News Now. It'd
- 1:52:10be so awesome if you put that banjo music to
- 1:52:14that. Deep. Hold on. I'm Irving Farquhar. Four
- 1:52:24News Now. For the low low price of $38 ,000 a
- 1:52:30month YouTube can sponsor a river and make sure
- 1:52:33that these poor non -native bass Will never go
- 1:52:37hungry or dead again Okay, awesome follow -up
- 1:52:44very much appreciated sir spook of Spokane for
- 1:52:48the yeah, it was a very baller conversation it
- 1:52:51was and there's more too, but it was like it
- 1:52:53was it was very content rich and Scott and I,
- 1:52:56while we like to fancy ourselves intelligent
- 1:52:58human beings, I think together we got probably
- 1:53:0170 or 80 % of it. We retained it, but it was
- 1:53:04a lot, but it was awesome. So thank you, Spokane.
- 1:53:07And as such, you know what? Meetup, no ID meetup
- 1:53:11at the lounge on the 25th. Right. You're going
- 1:53:15to be here. I think. Oh, is that what you're
- 1:53:17thinking of doing? Yeah. Why not? Because we
- 1:53:18because we if you recall the conversation with
- 1:53:20Sir Spook of Spokane ended with us saying like,
- 1:53:22all right, well, thank you. And we're enjoying
- 1:53:24cigars. And he said, well, let me give me some
- 1:53:26advance notice next time and I'll come have a
- 1:53:27cigar with you guys. So let's do let's do this.
- 1:53:31Let's do Saturday, the 26th, Friday, the 25th.
- 1:53:33I know we'll be there. You and I will be there.
- 1:53:35But, you know, we got a meeting of the meeting.
- 1:53:37Oh, you're right. Yeah, you got the meeting.
- 1:53:39And then I also have planned a rendezvous with
- 1:53:41my old buddy, Dave Temple. And so if we're going
- 1:53:45to do a no ID meetup, I would much prefer to
- 1:53:48be able to devote time and energy and focus on
- 1:53:51our no ID people. If we're going to do it, let's
- 1:53:55do Saturday the following day, Saturday the 26th,
- 1:53:58because I'll be available. I got paintball practice.
- 1:54:01I'm coaching my brother and son's paintball team.
- 1:54:04That'll be done around one or two. I don't know.
- 1:54:06So we could do a meetup at like 3 o 'clock until
- 1:54:10pretty much the night's over if we want. When
- 1:54:12is when is executive producer Kevin Killian come
- 1:54:15in Friday or Saturday? Friday, but that's coming
- 1:54:19Friday. OK, we talked to him about Friday about
- 1:54:22Saturday. He might be able to shift over or not.
- 1:54:25That's OK, too. Maybe if it's just Kevin, I'm
- 1:54:28just throwing that out there. Yeah. Hey, let
- 1:54:30me let me reset this because it glitched out.
- 1:54:32And now I think there's a delay. One moment.
- 1:54:35Let me just reset this because I will do one
- 1:54:37more clip and then we'll be done for today. Yeah,
- 1:54:39that was weird. It's always tough when there's
- 1:54:42a when there's a delay because then it's like
- 1:54:43we were talking to each other Okay. All right.
- 1:54:45All right. Sounds good. I'm down for for Saturday.
- 1:54:49That sounds great and also so let's make it official
- 1:54:51then Yeah, yeah officially meet up Saturday September
- 1:54:5526th, let's say 3 o 'clock until I guess whenever
- 1:55:02we run out of steam Word. All right. Sounds good
- 1:55:04to me. And so that'll be two days from now as
- 1:55:06you guys are hearing this. And let's close out
- 1:55:08this week with Uno Mas and I'll give you the
- 1:55:12option. Do you want to do a NPR promoting Boise
- 1:55:15Pride or do you want to be an or do you want
- 1:55:18to do an NPR poll of college kids in Idaho and
- 1:55:22how they rank for student openness? Oh, wow.
- 1:55:28Those are both terrible. Why are you gay? I could
- 1:55:34do another I could do Boise schools enrollment
- 1:55:37No, so when I say terrible, I don't mean like
- 1:55:41you picked terrible things I just mean they're
- 1:55:44both Paul statistics are made up this I'm just
- 1:55:51taking a page out of anonymous boomers book.
- 1:55:53All right, don't hurt. Don't don't hate the player
- 1:55:55hate the game No, we should we should have ended
- 1:55:57with this Spokane River thing because it was
- 1:56:00a nice thing to end on Now we're going to end
- 1:56:02on something that's going to make me depressed.
- 1:56:04Let's go with Blackpillum. I think I'd rather
- 1:56:06go with the gays instead of stupid young people.
- 1:56:11I felt really gay last night. Boise Pride is
- 1:56:14back this weekend for its 37th year. Last year,
- 1:56:16we reported the festival lost funding amidst
- 1:56:19rising economic uncertainty and anti -LGBTQ legislation
- 1:56:23and pressure. Julie Luketa has more on how the
- 1:56:26festival has pivoted to make it work in 2026.
- 1:56:30In 2025, several corporate sponsors pulled out
- 1:56:33of the event, resulting in a 40 % decline in
- 1:56:36funding compared to the previous year. There
- 1:56:39was also grunting coming from behind the stall.
- 1:56:41This year's festival also has to make do with
- 1:56:44fewer big name donors. Marketing director Davis
- 1:56:47Hilton says they're adapting to cover expenses.
- 1:56:51We lost a lot of corporate funding in the last
- 1:56:53couple of years. We're relying a lot more heavily
- 1:56:56on our small businesses who are incredible and
- 1:56:58have stepped up this year. The three -day festival
- 1:57:00is mostly free, but will charge for two big -name
- 1:57:03events. Performances by Trixie Mattel on Friday
- 1:57:06and Patty Gonya on Saturday. It's just really
- 1:57:09important for us to all come together. When you're
- 1:57:11dealing with holes in your budget. I see you
- 1:57:15wasted no time in filling my seat hole. Holes.
- 1:57:18Also, if you catch, I'm not sure how he's spelling
- 1:57:20this. It's just really important for us to all
- 1:57:22come together as a community. And so money and
- 1:57:26performances aside, it really is super heartwarming
- 1:57:29to see the parade and the fireworks and to celebrate
- 1:57:33and see all of these vendors and all of the things
- 1:57:35they offer and connect. It's really magical.
- 1:57:38Pride starts at 5 p .m. on Friday. Here's our
- 1:57:43national treasure, our publicly funded radio
- 1:57:46promoting. Pride starts at 5 p .m. on Friday
- 1:57:48until Sunday afternoon. Yep. There you go. That's
- 1:57:54where your tax dollars we were wondering when
- 1:57:56and where we could attend There's not enough
- 1:57:59and there's there's not enough. They need more.
- 1:58:01There's never enough. Their budget is not enough
- 1:58:04It's really magical especially with the gays
- 1:58:07because the only way that the gays could make
- 1:58:09more gays is by turning people gay You have to
- 1:58:15recruit PSA gays can't make more gays Are you
- 1:58:23sure about it? It sounds like another made up
- 1:58:25Paul statistic. Oh, man. I know I'm on a roll,
- 1:58:29aren't I? I think they're all made up. Everything
- 1:58:31I say is made up. All right. Are we done? I think
- 1:58:35we're just done. Let's be done. Yeah. And on
- 1:58:37that note, this must be like what anonymous boomer
- 1:58:44hears when I talk. You want from me more. How
- 1:58:47much more successful do you want me to be? More
- 1:58:50successful. How many records can my records break?
- 1:58:53More records. But I'm the best. But are you a
- 1:58:57different animal and the same beast? What the
- 1:59:02f**k does that mean, Kobe Bryant? As in what
- 1:59:06the f**k does that mean? What the f**k is he
- 1:59:09talking about? I don't think there's a boomer
- 1:59:11on the planet that knows that reference. The
- 1:59:16important thing is that I'm happy. No ID Show.
- 1:59:21This is episode number 47 in the can. We'll be
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- 1:59:48Next week, Matt Edwards will be here. As per,
- 1:59:52speaking of boomers, another anonymous, oh no
- 1:59:55that was not anonymous, that was Eman, who had
- 1:59:58said, I need you to have more guests on your
- 2:00:00pod, in the large font, so with emphasis, so
- 2:00:04we're heating the call, and we will have another
- 2:00:06guest next week. And that is pretty boomer of
- 2:00:07him too. yell at us through the internet on the
- 2:00:10keyboard. I know. At least he didn't do all caps.
- 2:00:12It wasn't all caps. He increased the font size.
- 2:00:14Oh, okay. I thought it was all caps. No, fine.
- 2:00:18Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I didn't say it. I declared
- 2:00:23it. All right. Until next week. Looking forward
- 2:00:29to smoking sticks with you guys on Saturday.
- 2:00:32From Post Falls, I'm Scott. And I'm Paul. Taxation
- 2:00:36is theft. Governor Brad Little has ordered state
- 2:00:39officials to keep spending. Everything I say
- 2:00:44is made up.