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New Details emerge about cabin-prison, strewn with filthy sheets, where kidnapped Jayme Closs held captive · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: With regard to the suspect taking great efforts to minimize
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Speaker 1: his forensic footprint at the crime scene, they include things
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Speaker 1: like not leaving trace evidence by changing his physical appearance
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Speaker 1: like shaving his head not to leave hair behind. We
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Speaker 1: again will not be making any more comments about this
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Speaker 1: to protect the integrity of the case at this time.
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Speaker 1: Nothing in this case shows the suspect knew anyone at
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Speaker 1: the class home or at any time had contact with
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Speaker 1: anyone in the class family. The suspect had specific intentions
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Speaker 1: to kidnap Jamie and went to great links to prepare
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Speaker 1: to take her. The suspect did work at the Genio
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Speaker 1: turkey plant over three years ago for less than two
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Speaker 1: days and does not appear to have any contact did
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Speaker 1: not have any contact with Jamie's parents, who also worked
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Speaker 1: at the turkey plant. You are hearing the very latestets
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Speaker 1: from the Baron County Sheriff christ fits Gerald at a
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Speaker 1: pressor today. The man who targets a teen girl murders
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Speaker 1: both her mom and her dad and takes her, leaving
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Speaker 1: behind no trace, keeping her in a squalid cabin for
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Speaker 1: nearly three months eighty eight days is in court for
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Speaker 1: a first appearance. This is details emerging about the squalid
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Speaker 1: cell strown with filthy sheets, stuffed toys, a Monopoly game
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Speaker 1: where this twenty one year old loner kept this little
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Speaker 1: girl a prisoner in the Wisconsin Woods. I'm Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: This is crime Stories. Thank you for being with us
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Speaker 1: with me. Veteran trial lawyer, family a divorce lawyer. Kathleen Murphy,
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Speaker 1: New York psychologist Karen st Arc at Karenstark dot com.
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Speaker 1: Francy Haggs, former federal prosecutor tzar of child recovering child
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Speaker 1: Protection for the federal government. Renowned forensics expert, author of
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Speaker 1: Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics,
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville State University, joining me right now, Crime online dot
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Speaker 1: Com investigator reporter John Lmley. John, First of all, why
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Speaker 1: is the perp? The alleged perp in court today? This
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Speaker 1: is his first court appearance since being arrested on Thursday,
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Speaker 1: and over the weekend, authorities have been scrambled, scrambling to
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Speaker 1: learn more and more about this rather unremarkable guy. Unremarkable
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Speaker 1: until the night in October that he killed Jamie Klaus's
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Speaker 1: parents and abducted the young child, the thirteen year old.
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Speaker 1: What can you tell us? What do we know right now,
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Speaker 1: John Linley? Well, we know that Jake Thomas Patterson grew
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Speaker 1: up in Gordon. It's a sprawling township of just several
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Speaker 1: hundred people, tucked into an evergreen forest. It's about thirty
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Speaker 1: five miles south of Lake Superior. It's wild country. Roadside
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Speaker 1: signs admonished motorists to share the pavement with ATVs, of
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Speaker 1: which there are more than cars. The few neighbors who
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Speaker 1: know Patterson's family say that he grew up in a
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Speaker 1: cabin in a remote development that's a mix of year
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Speaker 1: round residence and people that are just there during the summer.
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Speaker 1: It's about ten miles outside of the proper city limits
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Speaker 1: of Gordon. Patterson's high school teachers barely even remember the
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Speaker 1: now twenty one year old man who graduated only three
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Speaker 1: years ago and say they didn't realize that he still
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Speaker 1: lived in the area. Wow, we are learning that in
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Speaker 1: that s salad cabin there was a guide, a military
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Speaker 1: guide to survival. There was a monopoly game set up
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Speaker 1: on the floor. What more do we know about the
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Speaker 1: cabin where he allegedly kept the teen girl Jamie class
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Speaker 1: prisoner for eighty eight days? What more do we know?
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Speaker 1: John Limley? It's a rather ramshackle cabin. Visitors, When you
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Speaker 1: first walk up, there's a battered sign above the homes
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Speaker 1: front door that reads Patterson's Retreat because it's been in
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Speaker 1: the family for some time. Another one says welcome. But
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Speaker 1: the grounds are littered with junk cars, rusty bikes and garbage,
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Speaker 1: and the cabins insides are rather tattered to. In fact,
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Speaker 1: in the main living space, the living area, the living room,
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Speaker 1: and the kitchen, it's just bare insulation that's over the ceiling.
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Speaker 1: It's just a tangle of a mess. Really, it just
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Speaker 1: looks like no one has really cared for the property
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Speaker 1: in quite some time. Strong with stuff east that's what
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Speaker 1: we call the little stuffed animals, soft toys, filthy bedding
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Speaker 1: and sheets, women's clothes. It is a squalid prison. The
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Speaker 1: den has a scruffy mattress, cuddly stuffed pig. Is that
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Speaker 1: what she looked at every day? Looking at that exposed insulation,
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Speaker 1: there were kids backpacks piled up in one corner. I'm
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Speaker 1: looking at the photos right now that I have spotted
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Speaker 1: on Daily Mail. It's just a big, huge mess. This
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Speaker 1: guy's creepy layer. Right now, it is under intense scrutiny
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Speaker 1: to forensics expert and Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, Joseph
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Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, what are they doing right now? The whole
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Speaker 1: place is still cordened off. Right now, they're going through
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Speaker 1: this place room by room, football the inch by inch,
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Speaker 1: documenting every item in this cabin nancy. And also they're
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Speaker 1: looking for traces of what the life would have been
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Speaker 1: like for them existing in here for eighty eight days,
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Speaker 1: looking for tie backs relative to this little girl in
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Speaker 1: that cabin room. Remember she was found outside of the cabin.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that the defense attorneys will make hay over
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Speaker 1: this was she actually ever there? That sort of thing.
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Speaker 1: So they'll be looking for trace evidence that would tie
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Speaker 1: back to her specifically, and anything else that might give
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Speaker 1: them an indication as to what was going on in
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Speaker 1: that cabin. Well, this is what else we know to
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Speaker 1: Francy Hayes, former federal prosecutor appointed as the czar for
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Speaker 1: the federal government regarding bringing children and home that have
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Speaker 1: been abducted or mistreated. Francy, we know that the people
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Speaker 1: that found her wandering a retired social worker. She said
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Speaker 1: that she takes her to a home, says, BAM's on
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Speaker 1: the door. This is Jamie Class called nine one one.
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Speaker 1: They immediately get the girl in and say get a gun,
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Speaker 1: because they understood it was conveyed to them that this
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Speaker 1: perb was out looking for her, that he had figured
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Speaker 1: out she had escaped. He was out looking for her,
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Speaker 1: and he had already killed a mom and a dad
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Speaker 1: for no reason. People. Apparently he didn't even know he
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Speaker 1: had already gunned them down. So the first thing they
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Speaker 1: do is they say get a gun. He's out looking
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Speaker 1: for her. Well, Nancy, I think this is one of
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Speaker 1: the scariest things about this whole ordeal for this poor child.
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Speaker 1: She thinks she's being rescued, and her rescuers feel like
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Speaker 1: they are now at risk and they were. Apparently this
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Speaker 1: offender was literally hunting for Jamie after she escaped, just
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Speaker 1: like he had hunted for her from the beginning when
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Speaker 1: he burst into her parents' home, chilled her parents in
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Speaker 1: cold blood, and snatched her away to this disgusting remote cabin.
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Speaker 1: It's just awesome. I sat on this couch a couple
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Speaker 1: of months ago and you said you would never stop
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Speaker 1: giving up hope. And how here we are. What was it? Hope? Prayers?
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Speaker 1: It's not, yeah, prayers from our family. We got prayers
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Speaker 1: from everybody. I mean, everybody telling us they're praying for us,
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Speaker 1: praying for us, and you know, it's the power of prayer.
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Speaker 1: And it worked. I mean, how she got out, we
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Speaker 1: don't know that yet. You know, wasn't just on our own.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, it was amazing in this community. I mean,
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Speaker 1: if it wasn't for everybody posting posters and doing everything
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Speaker 1: to help us, every little thing that helped, we may
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Speaker 1: not be doing this right now, so big thank here
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Speaker 1: to everybody. Twenty one year old Jake Patterson lives down
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Speaker 1: the road behind me, oh Claire Acres here in the
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Speaker 1: city of Gordon. It's believed the house that is owned
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Speaker 1: by his fathers where he held thirteen year old Jamie
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Speaker 1: class captive for eighty eight days. We do know that
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Speaker 1: Patterson worked in the city of Baron for at least
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Speaker 1: two days. The city of Baron is where Jamie is from,
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Speaker 1: at the city's largest employer, the Gennio plant. That's also
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Speaker 1: the place where Jamie's parents worked. Right now, authorities did
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Speaker 1: not believe that Patterson and her parents crossed paths there.
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Speaker 1: Now we do know that Patterson has no criminal history
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Speaker 1: here in the state of Wisconsin. He went to school nearby.
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Speaker 1: The superintendent of Northwood School says Patterson was a quiet
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Speaker 1: but good student who had great friends. Doctor Jean Saram
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Speaker 1: says Patterson was a member of the quiz bowl team
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Speaker 1: that repeted against other schools in the area. The house
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Speaker 1: where Jamie was taken after she escaped from Patterson was
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Speaker 1: the home of his middle school teacher. She says he
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Speaker 1: was eleven or twelve when he was in her class. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I actually didn't even know he lived in my neighborhood.
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Speaker 1: Were relatively new to this neighborhood, So until Jamie said
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Speaker 1: it's Jake Patterson, I would have had no idea, I guess,
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Speaker 1: just disbelief, kind of shock that a kid that we
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Speaker 1: all knew could have done this. Shock is right, and
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Speaker 1: it was shocking and wonderful when Jamie Class was recovered today,
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Speaker 1: her alleged kidnapper and the murderer of both of her
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Speaker 1: parents in court. You were hearing miss Kasinskis who first
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Speaker 1: called nine one one his middle school teacher. The woman
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Speaker 1: that first encountered Jamie Klaus wandering outside in the cold, filthy, skinny,
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Speaker 1: her hair matted, wearing she's too big for her feet.
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Speaker 1: That woman, the retired social worker, literally saved her life.
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Speaker 1: When they take her to this home bamming on the door,
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Speaker 1: they immediately say, get a gun because they know this
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Speaker 1: guy is hunting for her. A quiz bowled team member, quiet,
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Speaker 1: what more do we know about this guy? We also
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Speaker 1: know that, according to the sheriff, Jamie Kloss's parents were
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Speaker 1: killed because they were a quote barrier to her kidnapping.
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Speaker 1: You don't think they would have gotten down though. He
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Speaker 1: would have gotten down those neighbors to get her back.
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Speaker 1: I've got no doubt in my mind that he would.
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Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy, North Carolina, family divorced lawyer Karen Start New
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Speaker 1: York psychologist, Francy Haggs, former federal prosecutor, J. Scott Morgan
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Speaker 1: forensics expert, and John Limley Crime online dot Com investigative
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Speaker 1: reporter to Karen Stark, what are you hearing in psychological
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Speaker 1: speak about this guy? A loner, a white male boy.
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Speaker 1: We're not surprised about that. Statistically, that's normally the case.
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Speaker 1: But taking her to this remote cabin. It's a town
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Speaker 1: of about six hundred and forty five people, about eighty
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Speaker 1: miles from Baron, Wisconsin, where she was kidnapped in her home.
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Speaker 1: And you know, Karen, ever since this has happened, don't laugh.
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Speaker 1: I've been sleeping in the room with the twins. I
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Speaker 1: know it's crazy. I know it's crazy. I know this
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Speaker 1: is an isolated incident, but I just can't take it
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Speaker 1: in that this guy with no connection to that family
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Speaker 1: at all. They keep making a big deal out of
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Speaker 1: the fact that he worked one day at the Geneo
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Speaker 1: processing plant where her parents had worked for many, many years,
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Speaker 1: but there's no indication whatsoever they ever even crossed paths.
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Speaker 1: He had to have seen her at one of her
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Speaker 1: dance events or a cross country running. She did that
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Speaker 1: too with her school, maybe somehow through the church. But
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Speaker 1: they couldn't have gone to the same church because he's
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Speaker 1: eighty miles away. So how did he come, how did
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Speaker 1: he find her to target her? And what are you learning,
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Speaker 1: Karen start? What's your interpretation when the sheriff says her parents,
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Speaker 1: her mother and father, the ones she loved the most
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Speaker 1: now dead, were killed because they were a quote barrier
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Speaker 1: to her kidnapper Natzie. How many times do we hear
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Speaker 1: about supposedly quiet, good neighbor people are shocked and it's
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Speaker 1: somebody who is ruthless who has I mean, this guy
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Speaker 1: did anything that he possibly could to kidnap this girl.
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Speaker 1: He used a shotgun to crash through the lock in
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Speaker 1: that door and get to her. So he was desperate
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Speaker 1: to have her, and obviously he targeted her and she
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Speaker 1: had to be his. He had to own her and
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Speaker 1: take her to his home. I have no doubt if
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Speaker 1: he had found her this had been would be a
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Speaker 1: totally different scenario, and she would not be with us
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Speaker 1: right now. To Francie, takes amazing that she was able
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Speaker 1: to escape from that situation. To Francie Haig's former federal prosecutor,
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Speaker 1: the statistics are very, very bleak. We're talking about stranger abduction,
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Speaker 1: not parental abduction. The noncastelil parent nuts up and takes
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Speaker 1: a child or an aunt or an uncle. We're talking
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Speaker 1: about stranger abductions. It's up around the seventy five percentile
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Speaker 1: that the child is killed within the first three hours
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Speaker 1: after abduction, once they've been raped essentially. Then when you
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Speaker 1: get to the twenty four hour mark, it jumps up
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Speaker 1: to the eighties. Eighty plus percent of children and stranger
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Speaker 1: and stranger abductions are killed in the first twenty four hours. Francy, so,
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Speaker 1: I agree with Karen Stark. If he had found her
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Speaker 1: and he was out looking for her in his car,
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Speaker 1: that's how the cops found him so quickly she described
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Speaker 1: his car. He had found out she had gotten away
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Speaker 1: and was out hunting for her like an animal. Francy, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: this guy is so frightening, and I think the most
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Speaker 1: important thing for people to remember is that we don't
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Speaker 1: all the people in our society, and unfortunately there's too
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Speaker 1: many of them like this guy, who are predators don't
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Speaker 1: have some kind of apee for predator emblazoned across their forehead.
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Speaker 1: They look like everyone else. Child abusers look like everyone else.
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Speaker 1: We have to go beyond what they look like and
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Speaker 1: instead look to their behavior. I can't believe there weren't
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Speaker 1: some sort of signs ahead of time that he was
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Speaker 1: sexually interested children. In fact, I would stake my reputation
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Speaker 1: that their police are going to find in his place
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Speaker 1: some kind of images of the sexual abuse of children,
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Speaker 1: indicating that that has been a sexual interest of his
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Speaker 1: for some time. And that's the motivation for why he
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Speaker 1: took Jamie class. And of course Kathleen Murphy Francie Haigs
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Speaker 1: is not off target because the primary motivation for stranger
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Speaker 1: on stranger abductions is sexual It's a shame. That is
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Speaker 1: such a shame. You know what I'm hoping for Nancy
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Speaker 1: at this very moment. I'm hoping that this child's face
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Speaker 1: is removed from social media, and I'm hoping this child's
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Speaker 1: face is forgotten by the public and that she can
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Speaker 1: merge into a quiet life, because what she's been through,
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Speaker 1: or what I think she's been through, is going to
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Speaker 1: be very difficult for her without her mom. I think
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Speaker 1: you're so right. I mean it's hard enough raising take
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Speaker 1: her off of social media raising a child in this
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Speaker 1: world of pressure and peer pressure, much less with what
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Speaker 1: she has going on in her head. Amount of trash
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Speaker 1: strung beside the garage, empty bottles of alcoholic drinks, I'm
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Speaker 1: smyrn off ice, Henry's hard soda, black cherry, white claw,
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Speaker 1: discarded bags of chips. This is what police are finding
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Speaker 1: where he allegedly held this child captive. Listen, Yeah, what
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Speaker 1: was the first thing she said to you? She just
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Speaker 1: said him lost and I don't know where I am
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Speaker 1: and I need help. She said who she loves. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: When she got near me and I could see who
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Speaker 1: she was, she told me I'm Jamie. Was she frantic?
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Speaker 1: What was her? Um? She was? She was scared. But
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Speaker 1: then when she you know, I stayed, so she stayed. Come.
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Speaker 1: You know, I didn't grab her and run off through
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Speaker 1: the woods, which would have been maybe an instinct, but no,
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Speaker 1: I just held on to her and I said, we're
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Speaker 1: going to find somebody who's home. We're gonna call the police.
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Speaker 1: You're gonna be okay, You're gonna be safe. Everything's gonna
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Speaker 1: be fine. You're gonna be fine. I just kept saying that.
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Speaker 1: Do you think she felt that from you? I hope
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Speaker 1: she felt it from me and from Peter and Kristen.
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Speaker 1: And you know they have a very warm, comforting home
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Speaker 1: and they have two kids and two dogs. And you know,
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Speaker 1: we wrapped her in a blanket, wrapped her blanket around her,
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Speaker 1: Grace Dishini Clotton Call nine one one. Those were the
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Speaker 1: first words Peter Kazinska's heard when he opened his front door.
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Speaker 1: In a phone call, he told us his neighbor was
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Speaker 1: walking her dog in this remote area of Gordon, Wisconsin,
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Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon. When Klaus appeared. The neighbor took the girl
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Speaker 1: to Kaznskas's home. Literally like I was seeing a ghost
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Speaker 1: because we've seen the billboards and the commercials and all
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Speaker 1: that stuff in there. She is in my kitchen. You
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Speaker 1: were hearing from rescuer Peter Kazniskas talking to CBS News
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Speaker 1: correspondent Adriana Diaz that he couldn't believe that she was
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Speaker 1: there in his kitchen and she looked like a ghost,
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Speaker 1: filthy hair, matted, she's too big for her. You know.
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Speaker 1: Here's the reality. There's been a lot of Internet trolling,
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Speaker 1: a lot of hate talk about Jamie Klaus, believe it
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Speaker 1: or not, just so upsetting. I mean, you know, when
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Speaker 1: it's one of us guys, we're adults. We're putting ourselves
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Speaker 1: out there by being on crime Stories, by being on
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Speaker 1: serious by commenting this girl did not ask for this.
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Speaker 1: This young girl did not ask for this. She's only
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Speaker 1: a year and a half older than my twins, and
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Speaker 1: she is being speculated about that she was part of
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Speaker 1: her own parents murder. Why would she be filthy with
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Speaker 1: matted hair, skinny as if she hadn't eaten. She didn't
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Speaker 1: even have shoes to wear, didn't take her cell phone
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Speaker 1: with her, didn't take anything with her. The door was
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Speaker 1: kicked in, apparently, John Limley with Crime Stories crime online
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Speaker 1: dot Com investigative reporter, he went loaded for bear with
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Speaker 1: a shotgun and murdered her parents with a shotgun. You
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Speaker 1: don't think this guy would have gunned down these neighbors
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Speaker 1: if he had found her. He was out hunting her
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Speaker 1: like an animal when they were calling nine one one,
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Speaker 1: John Limley, what do we know? Absolutely? In fact, we've
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Speaker 1: learned just in the past few days. For months now,
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Speaker 1: we've been hearing about that door being kicked in, Well,
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Speaker 1: he used that shotgun actually to blow the door open,
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Speaker 1: and he was prepared, prepared to the point where he
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Speaker 1: didn't even leave behind any DNA evidence. There was a
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Speaker 1: lot of planning that went into this. But the big question,
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Speaker 1: unless we've just not been told by investigators yet, is
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Speaker 1: the why why? And as we mentioned previously, how did
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Speaker 1: he even know this family and specifically this thirteen year
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Speaker 1: old girl. To Kathleen Murphy, this guy in court today,
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Speaker 1: what do you think about the possibility that additional charges
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Speaker 1: will be added in the days to come. I obviously
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Speaker 1: believe that this child was taken against her will, and
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Speaker 1: so it follows that I believe charges of hurting her
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Speaker 1: personally will be added, sex of use of a child,
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Speaker 1: And I wish she could just disappear into oblivion in
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Speaker 1: these charges not be made public, and that people don't
23:53
Speaker 1: know what really happened to her, because that's something that
23:56
Speaker 1: she had to live with. And thank god, thank god
23:59
Speaker 1: for Elizabeth mart and thank God for J. C. Duggard
24:03
Speaker 1: and all the other young women who have survived this
24:06
Speaker 1: and can be that club for her. And I know
24:09
Speaker 1: in my heart that every one of those young women
24:11
Speaker 1: now young mothers will reach out right this little girl.
24:16
Speaker 1: I think they will to Joseph Scott Morgan, forensics expert.
24:18
Speaker 1: We know the rescuers armed themselves because of the volatile
24:22
Speaker 1: nature of this guy. He keeps being described as a
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Speaker 1: white male lon or quiet shy b s to all
24:29
Speaker 1: of that. This guy, according to police, is a murderer,
24:34
Speaker 1: and when he was out looking for her after the
24:37
Speaker 1: neighbors had found her, I think he would have used
24:40
Speaker 1: any means necessary to get her, if that meant gunning
24:43
Speaker 1: down these this family, the Kacynskas, the woman that found her,
24:47
Speaker 1: Jane Nutter, that meant nothing to him, just like her
24:50
Speaker 1: parents meant nothing to him, and at some point he
24:53
Speaker 1: probably would have killed her too. Joe Scott Morgan, Yeah,
24:56
Speaker 1: I think that you're probably right. He viewed her as
24:59
Speaker 1: an object, something to be thrown away and used. However,
25:03
Speaker 1: I think that they're from an investigative standpoint. Nancy, there's
25:06
Speaker 1: a bright spot in this and the fact that they're
25:09
Speaker 1: saying that they found a shotgun in the residents where
25:12
Speaker 1: in this cabin where he was holed up with Jamie.
25:15
Speaker 1: Now this is key because this is going to have
25:18
Speaker 1: a specific tie back. You guys mentioned earlier that he
25:21
Speaker 1: had gone to great links to not leave any trace behind.
25:25
Speaker 1: My suspicion is is the fact that this was probably
25:28
Speaker 1: a semi automatic shotgun. There were at least three blasts
25:31
Speaker 1: that were fired. He tried to gain access to the
25:32
Speaker 1: house with one and then he shot these two poor people.
25:35
Speaker 1: So more than likely these shells, these ejected shells, were
25:39
Speaker 1: left at the scene unless he went back and tried
25:41
Speaker 1: to pick them up. Maybe they can be tied back
25:43
Speaker 1: to the weapon that was found at the cabin. You know,
25:46
Speaker 1: we're trying to find out more about this guy Patterson.
25:49
Speaker 1: He has no criminal history, but we know, isn't it true?
25:52
Speaker 1: John Linley Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. His brother
25:56
Speaker 1: had had a violent incident in the past. That is
26:00
Speaker 1: the case, Nancy. Jake Patterson doesn't even seem to have
26:04
Speaker 1: a parking ticket on his record. Now. It is important
26:07
Speaker 1: to point out that investigators believe Jake Patterson acted alone
26:10
Speaker 1: in the abduction of Jamie and the murder of her parents.
26:13
Speaker 1: There are no other suspects in the case, but the
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Speaker 1: suspect's brother. This is very interesting. Twenty four year old
26:20
Speaker 1: Eric Patterson is a convicted sex offender and at one
26:23
Speaker 1: time lived in the same home there in Gordon, Wisconsin,
26:26
Speaker 1: where Jamie was held captive. According to court records, six
26:30
Speaker 1: years ago, when Eric Patterson was eighteen, he drove from
26:34
Speaker 1: Gordon to Buffalo City, that's about three hours away, to
26:37
Speaker 1: meet a fifteen year old girl and have sex with her.
26:40
Speaker 1: The girl told police Shemeric met Eric three weeks earlier
26:44
Speaker 1: on an online chat site. Eric told police he thought
26:47
Speaker 1: she was seventeen, and in Eric's car police found several maps, clothes,
26:53
Speaker 1: and even a police scanner as well. He was charged
26:56
Speaker 1: with criminal sexual assault in the second degree, but the
26:59
Speaker 1: charge was reduced to fourth degree. He played no contest. Well,
27:04
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that through to you, Francy Haggs, former federal prosecutor.
27:08
Speaker 1: His brother had found a young girl, a teen girl
27:12
Speaker 1: in a neighboring city, driven to that city to meet
27:16
Speaker 1: up with her, and ended up with a felony charge
27:19
Speaker 1: about what went down. So I'm just wondering, did that
27:24
Speaker 1: seed stick in his head and then flower in blossom
27:28
Speaker 1: into a plot to get Jamie Nancy. It certainly looks
27:32
Speaker 1: like Patterson learned from the mistakes of his brother, specifically
27:37
Speaker 1: how not to get caught. That his brother got caught,
27:40
Speaker 1: he was determined not to by shaving his head so
27:43
Speaker 1: he wouldn't leave his DNA, by blowing the door open
27:45
Speaker 1: with a shotgun and taking Jamie by force, leaving no witnesses.
27:50
Speaker 1: This was a planned, well thought out, executed desire to
27:56
Speaker 1: get this child at all costs. And one of the
27:59
Speaker 1: things it makes me wonder, Nancy, is while he doesn't
28:02
Speaker 1: have any documented criminal history, this is an awfully bold
28:07
Speaker 1: executed plan for someone who has not done anything like
28:11
Speaker 1: it before. It makes me wonder what we're going to
28:13
Speaker 1: find in his past. Take a listen to this. Approximately
28:17
Speaker 1: four o'clock, I was just getting home from work, just
28:20
Speaker 1: kind of getting unpacked, and our neighbor came up to
28:24
Speaker 1: our door with a big her big dog, and she
28:27
Speaker 1: kind of flung the door open and said, call nine
28:31
Speaker 1: one one, this is Jamie Closs. And right next to
28:33
Speaker 1: her was a very I don't know, slender looking girls
28:40
Speaker 1: who looked exactly like Jamie Closs in the photographs that
28:43
Speaker 1: we've all seen. She just came in said she was Jamie.
28:49
Speaker 1: We brought her in the house. She came and sat
28:50
Speaker 1: down in our living room with us, and we called
28:54
Speaker 1: angelond one immediately and waited for the police to arrive too.
29:00
Speaker 1: Took maybe a half hour for the police to get here.
29:03
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't even really know how to
29:05
Speaker 1: describe it other than this kind of like surprise and
29:07
Speaker 1: panic at the same time. So we just called my
29:11
Speaker 1: no one. We waited, We kind of just talked with her,
29:13
Speaker 1: nothing too specific about what was happening. I asked her
29:18
Speaker 1: where Gordon, wiscont if she knew where Gordon, Wisconsin. While
29:21
Speaker 1: she did not, but she was pretty clear about that
29:26
Speaker 1: she's been taken. Other than that, she didn't give us
29:29
Speaker 1: a lot of details. We just waited to its police
29:33
Speaker 1: to arrive. They came, they took her, and then that's
29:38
Speaker 1: basically it. Jamie was reunited with her aunt at the
29:41
Speaker 1: hospital this afternoon. She will also be reunited later this
29:45
Speaker 1: evening with the rest of her family. She is doing
29:47
Speaker 1: as well as circumstances allow. We have recovered a gun
29:52
Speaker 1: consistent with what was used at the scene of the
29:54
Speaker 1: initial homicide. However, we will have to wait for confirmation
29:58
Speaker 1: that it was indeed the same weapon after examination by
30:02
Speaker 1: the Wisconsin State Crime Lab. The gun used at the
30:05
Speaker 1: scene on the night of the incident was a shotgun.
30:08
Speaker 1: The shotgun was also used to open was yearsed to
30:13
Speaker 1: shoot open the door at the Class home on the
30:15
Speaker 1: night of the incident. The door of the Class home
30:18
Speaker 1: was not kicked in. Investigators say this guy Patterson did
30:22
Speaker 1: act alone, but there are so many questions swirling about
30:26
Speaker 1: how he managed to keep Jamie Class prisoner for eighty
30:29
Speaker 1: eight days. This is according to Sheriff Fitzgerald. We know
30:33
Speaker 1: he was unemployed, that he lived at a remote Gordon
30:36
Speaker 1: home about eighty miles from Baron, that he did not
30:41
Speaker 1: own it. We also know that documents that have been
30:45
Speaker 1: obtained through a deed search shows that there was a
30:48
Speaker 1: mortgage on the property held by a different person. We
30:51
Speaker 1: know that the sheriff says that he concealed his identity,
30:55
Speaker 1: even shaving his hair, apparently so he would not leave
30:58
Speaker 1: any DNA behind on the scene. Right now, ballistics text
31:02
Speaker 1: being performed on that shotgun. To Joseph Scott, Morgan, forensics
31:05
Speaker 1: expert author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, Joe
31:09
Speaker 1: Scott explain how a ballistics test will likely match up
31:14
Speaker 1: the shotgun they recovered to the shotgun used to murder
31:18
Speaker 1: both of Jamie's parents Nancy. For shotguns, it's a bit
31:21
Speaker 1: different than say, for instance, like a regular pistol that
31:24
Speaker 1: we might think of or a rifle that has rifling marks.
31:27
Speaker 1: Shotguns what's referred to as a smooth bore weapon, So
31:30
Speaker 1: what they'll be looking for on a shotgun or what
31:32
Speaker 1: are referred to as extraction marks and what that means.
31:35
Speaker 1: That soft brass base of the shells as it is
31:38
Speaker 1: pulled out of the receiver, it leaves specific little markings
31:43
Speaker 1: on that, and they'll try to match these back to
31:45
Speaker 1: the shells found at the murder scene and match them
31:48
Speaker 1: back to the weapon that is recovered at the cabin itself.
31:52
Speaker 1: And also they'll be looking at ammunition. What type of
31:55
Speaker 1: ammunition was utilized in the homicides and also what kind
31:59
Speaker 1: of ammunition was he in possession of? Is it consistent
32:02
Speaker 1: with both of these? Can you imagine in the middle
32:05
Speaker 1: of the night, you've put your children to sleep, the
32:07
Speaker 1: doors are a lot, the lights are off, and all
32:09
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you hear a blast. It's a shotgun
32:12
Speaker 1: blowing out your door, so your daughter can be taken,
32:17
Speaker 1: both parents killed. She's held for eighty eight days in
32:21
Speaker 1: a cabin filled with old furniture, fans years old, TVs
32:26
Speaker 1: and stereos, dirty plates piled up in the old kitchen,
32:30
Speaker 1: A half finished game of Monopoly found in the main
32:34
Speaker 1: living room. A book entitled US Armed Forces Survival Guide, Hammer, flashlights, scissors,
32:42
Speaker 1: all piled up on a table. What happened to Jamie Class,
32:48
Speaker 1: her parents now dead and buried? What happened in this
32:52
Speaker 1: remote cabin? I'm looking at an aerial view of it
32:55
Speaker 1: right now where this team girl, Jamie Class Middle School
32:59
Speaker 1: was held allegedly by Jake Thomas Patterson, surrounded by trees
33:04
Speaker 1: and trees and trees. Right now, police looking for receipts
33:09
Speaker 1: where the suspect may have been during this time. What
33:12
Speaker 1: will the defense be? Will it be that Jamie was
33:15
Speaker 1: part of this scheme, that he thought he was saving
33:18
Speaker 1: her from abusive parents? Where else can the defense go?
33:22
Speaker 1: Of course, no evidence supports that what soever? To Karen
33:27
Speaker 1: Starting York Psychologists, you heard Kathleen Murphy hoping that her
33:32
Speaker 1: image will be taken off social media so she can
33:36
Speaker 1: merge back in to society. What will she be going
33:39
Speaker 1: through now? Karen? You know it's been a matter of
33:42
Speaker 1: survival for her and then the bravery it took to
33:45
Speaker 1: try and get away, risking her life knowing both her
33:48
Speaker 1: parents were shot dead. What is she going through now,
33:51
Speaker 1: Karen coming home to a home without her mom and
33:54
Speaker 1: dad there, And that's where she's in a different situation
33:58
Speaker 1: than Elizabeth Smart and do that. She's not going to
34:02
Speaker 1: be the same as then. And they're already saying you
34:05
Speaker 1: never go back to who you once were. But she's
34:07
Speaker 1: going to be in shock fancy and she needs a
34:10
Speaker 1: lot of help because she doesn't have parents to come
34:13
Speaker 1: home to, and she witnessed her parents being killed and
34:16
Speaker 1: then went through the trauma of being kidnapped by this guy.
34:21
Speaker 1: We can assume it's alleged, but you would assume that
34:24
Speaker 1: she went through sexual trauma. One would hope that they
34:27
Speaker 1: would take her off of social media just because somebody
34:30
Speaker 1: of that age shouldn't be Her picture shouldn't be out there,
34:34
Speaker 1: and she shouldn't be recognized. She should have a chance
34:37
Speaker 1: to try and build a more normal life again and
34:40
Speaker 1: get a lot of help to get through this trauma.
34:43
Speaker 1: This guy, Patterson wanted her back for many reasons to
34:46
Speaker 1: either hold her captive to molest or continue molesting her.
34:50
Speaker 1: But because she was a prime witness, the only witness
34:54
Speaker 1: to the murder of her parents to Kathleen Murphy weigh
34:57
Speaker 1: in on all the reasons he would have wanted her
35:00
Speaker 1: about why he was out hunting her like an animal,
35:03
Speaker 1: and why the neighbors were well advised to get a gun.
35:07
Speaker 1: In their words, Nancy, I think he hit the nail
35:09
Speaker 1: on the head because you referenced that his brother had
35:13
Speaker 1: some behaviors with a minor child that he was arrested
35:16
Speaker 1: for and he was charged with. This is a behavior
35:19
Speaker 1: that may be something that has learned in this family.
35:22
Speaker 1: I don't know any history about his family. The only
35:25
Speaker 1: thing I know is what you just told me. But
35:27
Speaker 1: I think something that's not clicking with these brothers and
35:31
Speaker 1: the problems that they have with their attraction to such
35:34
Speaker 1: young children. It's concerning. What about it too? John Limley,
35:38
Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, What can you tell
35:41
Speaker 1: us about the family? We've been able to slowly piece
35:46
Speaker 1: together sort of a timeline of his family, going back
35:49
Speaker 1: to two thousand and eight. That's when Jake Patterson's parents divorced,
35:53
Speaker 1: according to online court records. A neighbor says that the
35:57
Speaker 1: parents moved away, but that Patterson and his older brother
36:00
Speaker 1: continued to stay there in that remote cabin. She said
36:04
Speaker 1: that she and her husband once caught the two guys
36:07
Speaker 1: siphoning gas. Another neighbor said that the brothers often got
36:11
Speaker 1: into trouble. She said that they stole things and even
36:14
Speaker 1: spent some time in foster care. So you're telling me
36:17
Speaker 1: he may have been in foster care because let's backdate this.
36:20
Speaker 1: If he is twenty one, now, when did his parents
36:22
Speaker 1: get a divorce? Two thousand and eight, So they have
36:25
Speaker 1: been divorced now for wow, eleven years and he's only
36:30
Speaker 1: twenty one, so that places him at ten years old.
36:33
Speaker 1: He was living in that cabin with his brother who
36:35
Speaker 1: was Did you tell me the brother was convicted for
36:39
Speaker 1: trekking down and molesting a teen girl. The brother was, yes,
36:42
Speaker 1: sexual predator, his brother Eric. So you've got that Eric,
36:47
Speaker 1: the brother, and he's living with the brother in this cabin.
36:51
Speaker 1: That's his parental figure. Am I understanding this correctly? John Limley?
36:55
Speaker 1: According to neighbors, this is what is emerging is that
36:58
Speaker 1: the parents may have moved away individually because at that
37:02
Speaker 1: point they were divorced, and it's possible that the reason
37:05
Speaker 1: this is possible that they may have ended up in
37:07
Speaker 1: foster care because they were there living alone in this cabin.
37:11
Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friend at NBC Ron Alan
37:13
Speaker 1: reporting from Baron, Wisconsin. The man accused of killing her
37:16
Speaker 1: parents and holding her against her will for nearly three months,
37:19
Speaker 1: twenty one year old Jake Thomas Patterson is now behind bars.
37:22
Speaker 1: Patterson's neighbors shocked. Just seems like your average gene you know,
37:27
Speaker 1: growing up. There was nothing different than him than any
37:29
Speaker 1: other child in the neighborhood. Authorities say three years ago
37:33
Speaker 1: Patterson worked at the same turkey plant as Jamie's parents
37:36
Speaker 1: for one day, but authorities don't believe he had any
37:38
Speaker 1: other contact with the family before the murders. Wouldn't have
37:41
Speaker 1: the suspect on our radar. That's kind of unique in
37:44
Speaker 1: this case. I mean, I'm saying it that he randomly
37:48
Speaker 1: picked her. Patterson is due in court later today, where
37:51
Speaker 1: he'll be charged with kidnapping and murder. His lawyers calling
37:54
Speaker 1: it a tragic situation. We have a job to do
37:57
Speaker 1: in terms of representing our kind of protecting his right
38:00
Speaker 1: to his interests, but we also understand the pain and
38:03
Speaker 1: the emotion that has been generated within this community. We
38:06
Speaker 1: wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace crime story signing off,
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Speaker 1: Goodbye friend,