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INTERVIEW: Tamar Braxton Talks Cooking Show, Kandi Burruss, Toni Braxton, Celibacy Journey, Cheating + More · The Breakfast Club

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning, Everybody's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne
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  Speaker 2: the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club law La Ross
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  Speaker 2: here as well. We got a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 2: We have Tamar Braxton.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back.
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  Speaker 3: I thanks.
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  Speaker 1: How you feel?
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  Speaker 3: I feel great?
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  Speaker 1: How you feeling, friends, I'm good. I can't complain. You
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  Speaker 1: got a lot going on, I do. Let's start. Let's
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  Speaker 1: start first with the cooking show. Cooking Show Positivity. How
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  Speaker 1: it's so positive?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, here we go. You know where you're at.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Well, you know I have a cooking show with
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  Speaker 4: my mom and this has been a lifelong dream for her.
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  Speaker 4: And it's been ten years in the making, and everybody knows.
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  Speaker 4: I've been very open and honest about our situations at
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  Speaker 4: we TV, like years ago while we couldn't do other things,
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  Speaker 4: and so the opportunity presented itself again ten years later,
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  Speaker 4: and here we are, and now it's under my own
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  Speaker 4: production company.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know that part of it, your own production company,
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  Speaker 5: because every when I when I saw the announcement, I
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  Speaker 5: was like, every time y'all do like reality TV or
• 1:02
  Speaker 5: family related TV stuff, you always have to come out
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  Speaker 5: like I don't want to do this anymore, like you
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  Speaker 5: upset about I'm like, why would she go.
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  Speaker 3: Back all the time?
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  Speaker 4: It's just that ones particular, same people?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, but I just felt I felt like you you've
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  Speaker 5: been a lot better at protecting your space, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: why would she throw herself back into that?
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  Speaker 3: But now it makes sense because you have more control.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, this is not a reality show. This is a
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  Speaker 4: cooking show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And this is a cooking show that I'm sharing with
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  Speaker 4: my mother and it's probably one of my favorite projects
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  Speaker 4: that I've put out since the Bracts.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what are y'all cooking on the show? What kind
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  Speaker 1: of food?
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 4: So this show is really about people who want to cook,
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  Speaker 4: who are intimidated about cooking, and so we're making it
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  Speaker 4: easier for you all to not, you know, feel so
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  Speaker 4: intimidated about cooking because it's really.
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  Speaker 1: Not that serious, like what type of meals?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So last night's episode that came on, I made
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  Speaker 4: like rostapasta.
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  Speaker 7: Oh it's easy stuff, right? Who tastes it and says
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  Speaker 7: it's good?
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  Speaker 3: Do you have any judges? Well?
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  Speaker 4: I do have different people. My sister came on there.
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  Speaker 4: My son comes on here.
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  Speaker 3: He's very honest like me and Mitch.
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  Speaker 4: He's on there too, Like I mean, we have real
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  Speaker 4: people on the show, like just behind the scenes people
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  Speaker 4: who's honest. But my food is always good though, Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I sing and I.
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  Speaker 2: Cooking on the show.
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  Speaker 3: In my life. What's your go to dish? Like, what's
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  Speaker 3: your favorite? What you want? Oh?
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  Speaker 7: Wow, that it gives that what's your what's your go
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  Speaker 7: to dish? Or a man like what is the man?
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  Speaker 3: What are you gonna cook for the man?
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  Speaker 4: So if he likes cheese, this is what I say.
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  Speaker 4: Always go to alfredo, Yeah, alfredo or some type of
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  Speaker 4: salmon and spinach. Yeah, because it looks like you put
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  Speaker 4: a lot of effort into it, but it's really no effort.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like sometimes the guys be coming at like
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  Speaker 5: they make alfredo and salmon seem like if you cook that,
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  Speaker 5: you you don't really know how to cook, Like they
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  Speaker 5: come at those meals sometimes.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I won't even single for a little while. So
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  Speaker 4: this is my first time here.
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  Speaker 5: That I've been out here. I've been out here, don't
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  Speaker 5: say a long time. It's about like a year, Like,
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  Speaker 5: don't do me.
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  Speaker 4: No, I forget if we go to a restaurant, right yeah,
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  Speaker 4: nine times out of ten and you don't know the food,
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  Speaker 4: You're going to pick something safe and what to safe?
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  Speaker 3: A salmon dish with spinach or some type.
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  Speaker 4: Of greens, some like mass potatoes, right yeah, and you're
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  Speaker 4: going to be satisfied.
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  Speaker 3: So why not do that at home? It's easy way?
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  Speaker 2: Ye Now, you look, you look very glowy right now? Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Off blue liner. Look it's a little vibe, a little
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  Speaker 3: biker vibe.
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  Speaker 2: So what changed because I know sometimes you didn't seem
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  Speaker 2: as glowy, you didn't seem as happy.
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  Speaker 1: What got you to a place where you look happy? Like?
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  Speaker 1: You look very you know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I am happy.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I'm always happy.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I took a year off to be by myself and
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  Speaker 4: to really heal and to really figure out, you know,
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  Speaker 4: what I wanted in my life and where I wanted
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  Speaker 4: to go, and maybe.
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  Speaker 3: That's what that is.
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  Speaker 1: You love? Love?
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  Speaker 2: Are you ready to get back into love and back
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  Speaker 2: into dating. I've seen you post something about you got
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  Speaker 2: to make sure peoplen't have HIV, which was just.
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  Speaker 4: Said I'm on prep. It's true though, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if I'm ready for love. I know that
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  Speaker 4: I'm ready to, you know, put myself back out there.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, So what happened in the last relationship, I don't
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  Speaker 7: want to talk about that.
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  Speaker 4: And the reason why I don't want to talk about
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  Speaker 4: that is because I don't want to be disrespectful, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean. I want to stay on this
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  Speaker 4: path of you know, like it was what it was
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  Speaker 4: and it was my favorite relationship until it wasn't. And
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  Speaker 4: that's that on that And there's children involved, and I
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  Speaker 4: definitely don't want to offend them, and I don't want
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  Speaker 4: to keep talking about their dad where they're offended about,
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  Speaker 4: you know, me saying things about him that they feel
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  Speaker 4: that it's derogatory, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know what I mean? Well, what is your type? I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if I have like a real.
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  Speaker 4: Like aesthetic type, but I do know I like nice guys,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? I like respectful men. I
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  Speaker 4: like men who want to be where are they?
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  Speaker 6: You know?
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, that's that's my starter kit and somebody that
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  Speaker 4: can handle ta really you think?
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  Speaker 3: So I feel not just nice a lot of I
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  Speaker 3: don't feel like I'm a lot in a relationship, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like when it comes to my job, I
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  Speaker 4: am very like into it and demanding about that.
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  Speaker 2: But in relationships, I'm like everybody everybody behind your laughing
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  Speaker 2: when you said that, but you said.
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  Speaker 7: I am not a lot of I'm a lot.
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  Speaker 4: I'm alive. Yes, I don't think I'm a lot. I
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  Speaker 4: feel like I'm very submissive.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, So when.
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  Speaker 2: It comes to dating, have you thought about with your son, like,
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  Speaker 2: how is that gonna work? When are you going to
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  Speaker 2: introduce him? Does your son have to like, like, have
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  Speaker 2: you thought about that component?
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  Speaker 3: Just like you very honest. It's like me and my mother,
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  Speaker 3: good mother.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, okay, you know how you get around Baltimore people
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  Speaker 7: you start talk about him.
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  Speaker 3: So okay. So here's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I say I'm not gonna, you know, date
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  Speaker 4: seriously and so he gets of age because I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to keep introducing him to the wrong people.
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  Speaker 1: I mean serious, Mama, need I do.
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  Speaker 7: But you know, it's not really fair to him that
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  Speaker 7: these relationships keep going sour, you know, But you don't
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  Speaker 7: plan for that.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I don't know. I definitely didn't this last time.
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  Speaker 4: But the truth of the matter is is that it
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  Speaker 4: happens and you know, I don't want to keep introducing
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  Speaker 4: my son to these guys.
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  Speaker 3: And they let him down. You know, do you think
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  Speaker 3: social media plays a big part? And break up? Social
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  Speaker 3: media played a big part?
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  Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, I wish I could have
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  Speaker 4: been or had the opportunity to have been more private.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I know the next go rounde it will
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  Speaker 4: definitely be private.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Did you and your son have a conversation about like
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  Speaker 5: your decision a wait until he was eighteen? Like was
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  Speaker 5: he like, hey, Mom, what if we just kind of like.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like that.
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  Speaker 4: That was the decision that I made because I'm a
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  Speaker 4: and go mom, and you know, I'm in protective.
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  Speaker 3: Mode all the time of mars. So yeah, So.
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  Speaker 2: What happens if you do date somebody and they get
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  Speaker 2: close to your son and it doesn't work. Do you
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  Speaker 2: still allow and when they break up to still speak
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  Speaker 2: to your son or is it a rap? I often
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  Speaker 2: do because that leaves the door open a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: like because now I can put my foot in just
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  Speaker 2: a little bit and.
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  Speaker 4: Rag.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, I feel like the relationship that he
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  Speaker 4: has has established with that person that should play out
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  Speaker 4: the way that it needs to.
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  Speaker 3: I can't involve myself in that. What has your I
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  Speaker 3: know you were celibate for some time.
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  Speaker 4: I'm still celibating, Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Is there like a time period that you're doing or
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  Speaker 5: is it just like when you get to a place
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  Speaker 5: spiritual a.
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  Speaker 7: Year Jesus, Like not even a kiss, whoa or.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not really a touchy philly kind of person on
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  Speaker 4: myself anyway.
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  Speaker 5: But like you're still meeting guys though, and kind of like,
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  Speaker 5: can you have friends? I'm sure casual.
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  Speaker 4: Conversation friends, casual conversations, but I'm not interested. It's the
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  Speaker 4: one that I've been interested in.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, you don't earn earn for that feeling that
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  Speaker 2: touched that?
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  Speaker 3: Of course I do, But you know where does that
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  Speaker 3: lead to? You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: If they're not like minded and we're not on the
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  Speaker 4: same page, It's like I'm dating for intent, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean, and nobody.
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  Speaker 3: Is dating to it for intendity anymore. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: What's so long as you've ever been celebated? Is this it?
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  Speaker 6: This?
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  Speaker 7: Is it?
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  Speaker 1: You hurt right now?
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  Speaker 3: I'm actually not. I'm okay.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm super crazy busy and I've done.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of healing and you've been doing as far
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  Speaker 1: as healing, well, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I believe in therapy.
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  Speaker 6: Good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I really believe in therapy, and I've just been
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  Speaker 4: taking out time for myself to get to know me.
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  Speaker 7: You know, what's your celibacy journey? Hard in the beginning? No, no, no, oh, tam,
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  Speaker 7: I was fed up, fed up because I said a
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  Speaker 7: few times that I was gonna be telling me and then.
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: Got pregnant.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even lie like that. No, No, I think that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, once you come to a point of where
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  Speaker 4: you're ready for a change, you have to start making
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  Speaker 4: different decisions to get the changes that you want, that
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  Speaker 4: results that you want.
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  Speaker 2: What did you learn about yourself? You said you you
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  Speaker 2: learned a lot about yourself. What did you learn about you?
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  Speaker 4: That I was a perpetual relationship person and I just
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  Speaker 4: wanted to be in a relationship instead of looking for
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  Speaker 4: the right relationship for me.
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  Speaker 3: Gotcha?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: But you said I saw your on Sherry and you
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  Speaker 5: said that you are ready to get back.
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  Speaker 3: I am, I am?
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  Speaker 5: So how does that work with your celibacy? Are you
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  Speaker 5: dating people that are also on a celibacy journey?
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  Speaker 4: I haven't been on one yet, no date yet.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever, was just a couple of days ago.
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  Speaker 4: That was yesterday, okay, yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: So ideally for you, what's that first date back? Outside?
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  Speaker 3: Looking like?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, the outside is weird.
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  Speaker 3: It's very weird. I don't know what that looks.
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  Speaker 4: Like, you know what I mean, because I don't think
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  Speaker 4: we all know what that looks like until we meet
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  Speaker 4: that person and they show themselves.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I'd never imagine at my age or this stage of
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  Speaker 4: the game that i'd be single.
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  Speaker 3: So it's kind of weird anyway, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: So explain one thing to me.
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  Speaker 2: You talk about but you celibate, So you're taking the
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  Speaker 2: HIV prevention that early, just to just to make sure.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know what's gonna happen tomorrow.
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  Speaker 7: I won't be prepared, but I'm celebrating until the heavens.
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  Speaker 1: Was there a scare? Because what made you?
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  Speaker 3: No, It wasn't a scare.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 4: The fact of the matter is that the outside has
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  Speaker 4: changed and people are not monogamous at all. Everybody has
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  Speaker 4: the same boyfriend, and it's what is scary for me
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  Speaker 4: is actually contracting something because I am looking, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and I am dating, So that's what's scary.
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  Speaker 7: To me and then nothing before HIV, you got chlamydia.
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  Speaker 7: You know, you still got the gon rheas the herbs.
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  Speaker 7: It's a whole bunch of other things.
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  Speaker 4: That's also a medicine for that too. There's also a
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  Speaker 4: different kind of prep for that as well. So you
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  Speaker 4: know what, cross that bridge when we get to it, but.
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  Speaker 3: For now prep Hopefully you don't get to that bridge though,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, hopefully not. You know, but I'm not
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  Speaker 3: saying I'm out here raw dogging or I will raw
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  Speaker 3: dog but you know, things happen, you know, we adults
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  Speaker 3: he love. Yeah, so you recently reconciled with Tony? What
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: you mean reconcile? Listen, you got to tell.
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  Speaker 1: You because you blocked?
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  Speaker 4: How do you like, how do you reconcile with your
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  Speaker 4: with your family? Like you falling in out all the time.
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  Speaker 2: When you block somebody out there when you're on black're
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  Speaker 2: not beefing no more, that's what's well.
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  Speaker 4: Blocking doesn't mean we're beefing black. It means you're just
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  Speaker 4: working on my nerves and don't feel like seeing you
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  Speaker 4: right now.
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  Speaker 3: So that was just a sister thing.
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  Speaker 4: That was thing blocked on my phone. I think being
• 11:46
  Speaker 4: blocked on your phone is like the extreme. I don't
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  Speaker 4: feel like blocked on social media means real life, right,
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  Speaker 4: That means I don't feel like seeing you on my
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  Speaker 4: timeline right now.
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  Speaker 3: But did she know that she was black? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: did she know that she was going to do that,
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  Speaker 3: that the argument had gotten nothing?
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  Speaker 6: A lie?
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  Speaker 3: She don't even have social media on her phone. That
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  Speaker 3: was her representation, that did it?
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  Speaker 7: You said she be antagonist sometimes, Yes, that's what happens.
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  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Like, it's not I know
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  Speaker 7: that everybody wants it to be like right it.
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  Speaker 3: I won't be wild with.
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  Speaker 4: Me because because Tamark, they think Tamar comes with a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of drama.
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  Speaker 3: But it's just like regular life stuff.
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  Speaker 1: It just blows up.
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  Speaker 3: It just blows who you are.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what were y'all beefing about? What was the argument
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  Speaker 1: that you said?
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  Speaker 3: It was very minute, probably, But she's a sister and
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: you get blacked and then the little sister. Most of
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  Speaker 3: the time it's a brat. You think I'm a brad.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not a bad I'm not. What makes me a bread.
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  Speaker 3: Younger siblings just get away with a lot and just
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  Speaker 3: the boys.
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  Speaker 1: What makes me a brad?
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  Speaker 3: You know, you're a brain.
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  Speaker 1: She has a younger sister too.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, also you's the oldest.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Brother, it's even worse with a younger brother, because what
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  Speaker 5: boys are mommy's baby.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like, oh my god, y'all jealous.
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  Speaker 4: That's why y'all call us because we're not no brad,
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  Speaker 4: We're no different than y'all.
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  Speaker 3: We're a little tired.
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  Speaker 4: That's why y'all antagonistic, because y'all throw our names and
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  Speaker 4: talk about us. But we better not say nothing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we gotta take it a little bit exactly.
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  Speaker 7: And then we were in y'all shoes before, like I
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  Speaker 7: was everywhere. My little sister was that. And then when
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  Speaker 7: I try to tell us something, she well, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 7: live my own life and then I'm gonna do this,
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  Speaker 7: And and you weren't gay, and I'm like.
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  Speaker 1: All right, a little bit a little bit I was.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know her because she's gay.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like a little bit over there before and then
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  Speaker 3: what happened when something go wrong? Jests who she called first?
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  Speaker 7: She calls me exactly when it comes to the coat
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  Speaker 7: signing of the car, when it comes like, no, I
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  Speaker 7: thought I was, I thought, but I'm Ana sign it
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  Speaker 7: for you, and you know I am because.
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  Speaker 3: You're a brad that's not loved exactly.
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  Speaker 4: You know what it is, y'all got a chance to
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  Speaker 4: live life lessons before we did, and it's frustrating for
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: y'all to watch us go through the things that y'all
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: were through.
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: And so that's what that is. That doesn't make us
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: a break.
• 13:58
  Speaker 7: You're younger, We tell you don't step in the power,
• 14:00
  Speaker 7: and you still step in the power. Yeah, you stepped
• 14:02
  Speaker 7: in the power though, so we ain't had nobody to
• 14:04
  Speaker 7: tell me not that's the point.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: But I get it.
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: I get it. Yeah, what it was.
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: Does it bother you that your whole life is so
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: on social media because everything that you do and people
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: are going to compare it.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: That doesn't matter who you're dating. It, if you unblock
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: your sister, if you block your sister, whatever happens with you.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: But you guys kind of did it because you did that.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: But that's bother you.
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: It's irritating now because I can't really get away from
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: that stigma that I'm problematic and always the issue, right,
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: But I think that is something we signed up for
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: a long time ago, and we didn't know that we
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: were signing up for.
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: So yeah, does it affect you business wise, like as
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: you're doing new things under your production company and stuff
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: like that?
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: Is that five TV shows that I shot? Period? So
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: what is this? March March seven? Five? And can love
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: that for you? Congratulations? Thank you at an album.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: All and back making music?
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, back making put in space? Is that your your
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: my getaway my zen making music?
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: You know I usually put out of a single on
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: my birthday. Remember the last time I was here yep.
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: But and I told you guys, it was an EP
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: that was coming or album that was coming. But then
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: like life happened, right, And I'm actually glad that life
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: happened because I feel like this is like my best project.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Really yeah, wow, Why do you feel that this is.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: Your best because I am just putting myself out there
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: and putting everything that happened to me, especially like within
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: the past year and a half.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: You know, I just talk about your relationship and how
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: it affects.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: It was the most difficult thing to do.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: I say it was it triggering for you?
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: No, it wasn't triggering with therapeutic because I'm in therapy,
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: so it really wasn't triggering. It was actually, you know,
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: I look at it as a sign of release, a
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: sense of release.
• 15:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and then you have October Nights. You will be
• 15:56
  Speaker 7: joining October London for the October Nights.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: We will be joining each other. Okay, y'all joining each other?
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: Or the October Nights Calling All Lovers tour, I don't
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: really excited. Well, Calling All Lovers is an album that
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: I didn't get a chance to promote because I got sick.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys remember that. It was
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: like a couple of years ago.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: And so now that I'm not sick, and you know,
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: now that things are going well for me in life,
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: I decided to go back and kind of showcase that
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: album for that tour.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: I love the fact that the special guest is Roe James.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Isn't that spectacle year?
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: What?
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: I can't wait? The tour starts on April.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: I don't even want to say, but I'm gonna because
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: there's a clip out there, so pause, pause, pause, you know,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: you say pause about to say something.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: That might sound a little gay, Okay?
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: What?
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Ro James came up here one time, right, and Charlemagne
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: looked at Roe James and he was like, he has
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: to be the thickest man I've ever seen in my life.
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: Charlamage, Charlemagne taking an ass he had, he was.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'm gonna tell you something.
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: When he was over there doing drops and he looked
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: over there and then he goes, who's that with the fatty.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: He did?
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: He did say, believe, I definitely say that.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Who was the guy that came up here from Queens
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: that you complimented his ass and he got to touch
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: some tight bunds.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: I can't remember his name, complimented that. I ain't never
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: come in. You did his ass. He was doing a
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: drop right through the window and he was like, look
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: at his ass.
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: I said, God, damn, he got a fat ass right away.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: No, let's be for real for a second.
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: You know how fat man that ask got to be
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: for another man to say he got a fat ass.
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: I'm a heterosexual man. I am assist gendered male. Okay,
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: his ass is obnoxiously fat for a man.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: Come on, man, that man got some hips in the ass. Yeah, man,
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: come on, man, he might need to be in again
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: his Book of World records.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Some man right with Rod James's. He's abnormally built for
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: a young man. Okay, young guys.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: That have hips. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we like the hip Committee.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Yah know y'all do you don't like the hip Committee?
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I'm dating. I don't want to
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: look at your wis and be like not not you.
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't mind if somebody's sick, but not
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: my man. I just you know, I don't want to
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: be like no, I like.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: You like a thing on thing because you know, I
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: like the like the muscle and all that, but just
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: like the booty in the you know how sometimes you
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: see a man be.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Like like, yeah, like I'm a little jet well mind is,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: but I'm not a hip committee. Yeah.
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: But it's kicking off April seventeen in Virginia and Virginia.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go to d C. I'm excited.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I'm excited. What's again?
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Okay? So I have been pondering in my head started it.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm not going to really get into it
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: because I don't want to muster up the situation.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: So we really basically wouldn't be here if I wasn't
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: lied on. And that's my thing, Like I can deal
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: with anything, but don't lie on me, you know, what
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: So that's my thing.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: And so wait, when you say lie, you're talking about
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: when Candy said Todd did not come for you or
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: threaten you, but you said he did when y'all had
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: that backstage moment.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: So that clip came up. That was three years ago,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: and it really did something to me because she didn't
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: choose to kind of like divert from the situation. She
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: chose to call me a clown, and that pissed me
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: off because we wouldn't be here had it not been
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: for the lies.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: But what I don't want to do is continue that
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: conversation until take away from all the hard work that
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: I have been doing these past couple of years and
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: make it about a beef that I actually don't have
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: a person currently.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Does that make sense?
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, have a cool No, oh my god, yes, are
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: you kidding me?
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Like like the whole Escape group, Like I am Eiriss's
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: godmother and Tiny is Logan's godmother. So we have been
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: around each other for like twenty thirty years, and so
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: it was really a lot for us to have that
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: kind of a fallen out because of a lie when
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: you just should have told the public you did what
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: you did and it was what it was, and everybody
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: moves on, but continuing to stick by the narrative that, oh,
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: it has to be Tamar because Tamar has it's an
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: easy target.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: To me, it was wrong, and That's where I'm at
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: with it. Is there any chance to reconcile, Like if
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: somebody put you on, I have to ask her that,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: I just feel like when you lie on a person publicly,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: then it's your responsibility.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: To make that right.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Do you feel like you're the easy target when it
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: comes to a lot of things because of the show
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: and your personality and the things that you've been through,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: you feel.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Like you are the easy target?
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: WHA, the Bractes have been on for twelve years.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: That's kind of what I meant earlier too, because I
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: feel like a lot of stuff gets thrown on you
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: all the time. Yeah, because it's easy, because it's easy
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: for people to believe because everyone grew up watching that
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: show and all of these instances with my family. Now,
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying I am I'm never wrong or I
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: am the victim.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying that it's easy to attach myself to
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: things and for people to believe it off the bat.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, would you do that type of show again?
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: What show? I'm doing the same thing. I'm not a
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: friend to the show anymore. I am on the show,
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: and you know, so far, so good.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: I haven't seen this yet, but I know that there
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: was like the conversation about you not going to your
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: sister's wedding to on his wedding?
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Are you guys going to address that at all? And
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: it's like new write I think that's for her to discuss.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: You didn't write you.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: I think that's for her to discuss I do.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I'm a holy child, so I don't know how your
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: sisters and brother be playing.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: I'm not a child, but I know when I watched
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: this because I've been watching y'all show for a long time,
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: and I think I think a lot of us too,
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: even outside the show, we feel like we've grown up
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: on your family because you guys have just been famous forever.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was for me watching it.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: I know y'all go through things, but I like to
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: see y'all like especially when your mom gets involved and
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: she makes y'all make up, because I'm like, that's how
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: it really be in family. But I think for a
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: lot of people, when we heard the thing about the wedding,
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: it was like, dang, a wedding is so like that,
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: that's so serious, Like I know it had to hurt
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: you if it did happen. And then I'm like, what
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: happened to even make it get there? So I think
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: that's why everybody still wants to know, like what the heck?
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Like, all I know is that I'm the maid of honor,
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: and that's I'm going to leave that at that, and
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: I'm going to let her tell the rest of her story.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: You were or you was were means you were supposed
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: to be and didn't happen.
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: I'm just saying that I got the invitation that you
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: are the maid of honor.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, bless the Lord.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: You speak to all you and your sister's cool, Like y'all.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Like chat right, Yeah, there's a group chat.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody speaks.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Everybody speaks a group chat with us. Sometimes when we
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: be upset, we all be speaking to each.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Other all the time.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: I got to keep it gangster for a second. You know,
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: like your family is your family, but I feel like
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: after you, after you have like life experiences and you
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: become a certain age, you start to choose your family,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And that's just what it is.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: I don't think that I made that rule up. I
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: think that that's something that I had to learn along
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: the way and become comfortable with. And I'm comfortable with it.
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: And is life, you know what I mean, Because like
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: you said, it happens in families everybody. And you got
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: families that that's torn apart, that don't even speak at all,
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: the goals gears without speaking, and people make their friends
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: their family, and you know you, like you said, you
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: create your family. I think what I didn't like was
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: after how many people like formed like that, that notion
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: of Tamar being a problem was after the Iona sit down,
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: that like went four years, Oh, this must who this
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: is who she must be like at all times, and
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: it kind of like put a bad It just put
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: a bad like stigma around it, did you know what
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: I mean? Like there's always a problem nowhere you go,
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: like you always a problem even in your family, you
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. And then nobody like cleared that
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: up for you, and the.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: No, they didn't, they didn't, and I think that they
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: were apprehensive to do so because what happened before, what
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: you didn't what you all didn't see, is that she
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: outed my sexual abuse and that was a problem that
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: it would have been a problem for anybody, you know,
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: and anybody would have had an attitude, anybody would be
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: ready to fight and be on defense mode. And that's
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: what happened. And so I felt like they didn't want
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: to further that conversation because it would have been uncomfortable
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: for me because here I have of.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Talking about it ten years later. You get what I'm saying.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: So I have you dealt with that and.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Deal with it?
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: I think that's a lifelong thing, you know, because you know,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: there's so many things that comes up after your abuse,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So, yeah, that's something that
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: I constantly deal with. But I think today now I'm
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: my best self.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: How does that affect you with raising your son? Right?
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Because it has to put you in a spot where
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: it's like I want to be on top of them
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: twenty four to seven to make sure nothing like that
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: happens to him.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: So how is that as well?
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: Well?
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: You are?
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: You are?
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: He don't go on play there as at other people house.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: They got to come to my house. That's what that
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: gives you the same way. Yeah, and you know he's
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: in therapy because I want him to be open and
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: honest about his feelings. And yeah, you just got to
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: take it one day at a time because I can't
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: impose what happened to me on him.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Now, you have so many sisters, and this is just
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: a because I have a big family, and I'm just curious,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: where does it get to the point where y'all don't
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: f with each other all the time?
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: And the reason I say that as parents and you
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: have six kids, that's the one thing.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: That you push, right, you have your sisters back, I
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: don't care what happens.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: And it's sad because as close as I seen y'all,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: sometimes you don't have for each other. Yeah, So what
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: what makes y'all drift apart? Is it the communication?
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Is it? Mom's not doing it?
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: What makes their family not with each other? At times?
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's life, and I feel like we're
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: a bunch of women, and as women, we have different
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: opinions about things, you know what I mean, And you
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: take breaks like you do your homegirls, you know what
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, take breaks and then you come back. Just
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: because I don't talk to you every single day. Don't
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: don't mean I don't have your bag. You know I
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: have your bag, but I just don't mess with you
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying is that weird.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: I think we get it because we have siblings maybe
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: heat and also two we girls too, so it's like,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: you know, sometimes you just need to like love you
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: to death, but not today.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Today and not next week.
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because y'all all grew up in the same house
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: and all y'all still got sick.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Y'all got a lot of different personalities. It's different.
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: Everybody's personality is different. I don't feel like none of
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: the brags and sisters are the same exact.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: No, we're not. We're not. You know, there is a Libra,
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: which is a lot, there is.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: There is a Virgo, which is too, and yeah, there's
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: a Sagittarius, and there's a Pisces.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: My sister was the Ares. So yeah, we're all totally different.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, you figure out a way to
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: deal with each other because you love each other, which
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: I feel like in any relationships.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Even with a man or a woman, you figure out
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: how to deal with each other.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: And love each other throughout all the bs and you know,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: you just move on and live life, but you don't
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: hold onto yesterday.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, we were talking about dating this week and
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: you said that you're you're actively dating when it comes
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: to dating.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Does your man get a cheating past? Right?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: And this comes from Young Miami. Young Miami said that
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: she would give her man three cheating passes. The fourth
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: one she's outcuse she feels like every man cheats. Would
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: you give your man a cheating past? Or have you
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: given your man a cheating past?
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: That's a trick question.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel like it's a truck question because if
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: you say, yeah, one past.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: That a cheating past.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: Okay, I wouldn't say a pasty, but if he cheated,
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: I do feel like that they.
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: Deserve a conversation. I don't feel like in life that
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: that is.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: God I'm gonna get.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: I don't feel like that's a total deal breaker, especially
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: when you have life together, assets together, children together. It
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: is a conversation because there is a breakdown somewhere, you
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: know what I mean?
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: I just feel like when you cheat, you not ready.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, have you ever been a Cheatah? I have? And
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: what's the worst thing I've ever done?
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: What got you to that point? Was it a drunk night?
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Or cheated back? I cheated first. I cheated first because
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: I felt like I'm in trouble. In trouble because you
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: are single, you don't have nobody else.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Want to be cheated first because a relationship was not resolved.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: And you know, I started talking back to that person
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: and I was confused. I spun the block and I
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: was just confused. And that's just the real truth. And
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: it was a mistake.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: You get caught, No, I got caught bad cheatering.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: No, I wasn't a bad cheatering. I got caught.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: A cell phone.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: It was in my phone. It was in my phone,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: and it was bad.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Was it a picture?
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: It was bad?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Jesus.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: It was the worst mistake I've ever made.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: I would never ever, ever ever cheat on anybody ever again,
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: ever ever ever. Yeah, because how do you recover? I
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: feel like it's hard for men to recover from. And
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: what I don't want to do is break someone I love.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Because you realize how.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Much you love that person after you cheated, Yes, and
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: you can't take it that and that's just the truth, Like,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: that's really just the truth.
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: Sometimes you really don't know what you got until it's
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: about to be out the door.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you got caught before it too. Yeah you
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: see me overhit my hands again.
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: And it's the crazy thing.
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: I left my I left a good relationship to be
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: with my first dad and he I got with him,
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: and not even twenty four hours later, this nigga cheated
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: on me. And I try to go back to the
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: guy like this is it too late? Yeah, you know,
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: so it's too late.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: Do you feel like I'm actual a questions? Because okay,
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: we have an open conversation.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Do you feel like a man can.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Ever recover from their woman cheating on them? No, you
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: think so.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: It's gonna take time, but I think I think they
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: could and be Yeah, I think I think you could.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: If this is how I look at it, If a
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: woman really wants to get back and really wants to
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: change and evolve and make a man feel comfortable, it's
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: the same thing when a man cheats. With a man cheats,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: what what makes a woman feel comfortable again is being
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: is allowing them to be comfortable.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Right, I cheated, I talked about it my book.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: But I had to be able to be open with
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: my wife where I know that I'm not doing no dirt.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Like I leave my phone here, here's my phone. She
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: never takes it, but she knows if she wants to
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: she can. Here's access to my social media, his access.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: To anything that you need to make you feel feel comfortable,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: to know that I will never do.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: You know, Hey, I'm going on the road, bab you
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: want to come with me.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I want her to feel comfortable where she never has
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: that doubt in her mind ever again.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Now I'm not gonna lie. It's not easy. It wasn't easy.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: It wasn't difficult.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: And sometimes, like I tell a story, I went to Vegas.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I walk in the room in Vegas right, and it
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: was pennies on the floor. My wife was on FaceTime
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: and I went down and I complained, like I got call.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I said, babe, look I stopped. I went downstairs because
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I was so scared. She was like, YO, calm the
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: fuck down, Like I believe it. But I was scared.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: She wasn't even in Vegas.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: But that's how I am because I want to show
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: her like yo, I fucked up, and like you said,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: It was the worst decision in my life because you
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: hurt somebody that you love, for you kill the trust
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: and you got to try to get that back. And
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: this is the person I'm been with my wife since
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: fifteen and sixteen thirty years, So yes, you can. So
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: if she can do that, I got to put myself
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: in that predicament. If she cheated on me, would I
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: be able to take that back? It depends how hard
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: it was for her. Now I do see a lot
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: of men that she and be like, yeah, cheated and
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: what it's over? Forgive me, that's.
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: That's right.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: But if you really feel sorry and really try to change,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: and I don't know, sucking, She's like, if you really
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: say no, I'm.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: A change and changes change behavior, you know, so I could.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: So you would give them the opportunity. So what was
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: your wife? You would give her the opportunity? Well, y'all
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: got a lot of stuff.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: You're the wrong person, but I would It would be
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: hard to see because I think for a man mentally, yeah,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: the fact that I got to see you sucking, that
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: would be hard.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Crazy, But you know, she might have just climbed on top.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: See I don't want to see.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: It's a video. It's over with.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: Girls had that say what wasn't a video? It was
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: a picture and it was Oh my god, it was
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: so bad. I did it on purpose.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: I forgot it was in my phone. I forgot. No,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: you like it was already over with. You know what
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. I had nothing to hide and I forgot. Forget.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: That's a big forget. I forgot it was in my phone.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: That's the whole episode.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I'm just curious. I'm just askeding.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: So when he approached you, what was the conversation, like, Hey,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: did you just throw it in your.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Face, like look at this right here? Or was it
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: like what did you do? January third, I just knew.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: I woke up and he was gone. Oh and I
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: just knew.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I saw and I called, didn't answer.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: He did, and it was bad and he was crying.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: He was yes, it was broken. Yeah, And that hurt
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: me to this day. That hurts me that I hurt
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: that person.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: That bad week.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: No, do you check on this.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Instagram a while?
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: No, we can't check on people. You're not gonna tell
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: us what ex this was?
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: No, No, it was.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: So long ago.
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: But the thing is video, the video probably hurt them
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: so bad because you're doing the.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Things that you do with me with like worse.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Indead, they took it out my phone, set it to
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: themselves and deleted it out my phone.
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so now you can't even do it like I
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: would be so Sam, I can't even really practice.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: Because on your your podcast that you have like Love
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: and Beyond, these are the conversations that you're having. That's
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: like the conversations that we're having because you're you're so vulnerable,
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: You're so open. It's like having girl talk with you.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: It is. Do you ever get nervous though?
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: When you're having these conversations that like maybe that ex
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: or like whoever you might have a conversation comes back
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: up on social media. It's like I want to tell
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: my side and now it's a whole thing.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm very skeptical about talking about people, gotcha,
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Because it takes away from
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: everything that you're doing for a moment and it's a
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: complete distraction.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: So I'm very respectful now.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Right, That's one thing I did learn envy respectful now
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: of what I say, and I make sure that whoever
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about, that nobody knows who I'm talking about right, Yeah.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: What conversations are you having with your mom while you
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: guys are cooking?
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: We talk about stuff like that. Yeah.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked about last night on the premiere, like
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: get them girl, Like, what's what's the things that you
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: what's the things that you cooked to.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Get them girl?
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: And we talk about kids, We talk about life, we
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: talk about we talk about everything.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my mom is one of my favorite people. Y'all.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Dynamic is dope. That's why.
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: Actually she's not. She'll get into the things. Yeah, she'll
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: get into the things.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: And she's so.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: I don't know, she's just amazing and she just the
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: best advice about everything.
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: Listen, you are so right. I sat next to your
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: mother on a flight before.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: We're in first class, of course, first.
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: Class, but we said, I said, right next to her, right,
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: and I was on the phone. I was handling something,
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: and the we weren't even about to take off yet.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: They were about to just do.
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: That that that man and the white flight attendant. She
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: was like, you need to get off of your phone.
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: I don't know, like talking to me crazy, and I
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: your mother knew I was about to go off, yah,
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: and she just put her hand on my knee, and
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: she was like, m M, don't that's her because that's
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: what they want you to do. They want she wants
• 36:37
  Speaker 7: you to act up. She was she already wasn't the best.
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: She didn't greet people. She didn't greet us. It was me,
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: a mother, maybe one other person of color, and first
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: class didn't greet us, didn't you know. And when she
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: did it was very lack of love. So you would
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: you like something to drink before we go or whatever?
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: And she was like, that's what she wants you to do.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Do not do it.
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: Your mother knew I was really going. And then you
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: know who? She said you, I remind.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Her of absolutely.
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: Sneaking out the house going to Baltimore every such and such. Oh,
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: me and your mother got into it or got into
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: some things about you, and you know, your sister's on
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: the flight, but she definitely she wasn't there. I probably
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: would have been on the no fly list. The way
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: that lady talked to me.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure it's crazy. Yeah, my mother has.
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: A way of like being honest but giving it to
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: you in a comforting way.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: She has a presence, Yes, she does. You know.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: We did an interview yesterday and she let me have it,
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: and nobody knew she let me have it, but I
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: knew she let me have it because she was we
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: were talking about dating, and she was talking about why
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: men are the way that they are now, and she
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: was saying, it's really the boy mom's faults because we
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: think that they are our kings and we don't have
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: to make them do things and figure life out and.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Stuff like that.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: And so she was like, well, why why wouldn't they
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: expect for you to pay for a day, Why wouldn't
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: they expect.
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: For you to trick on them? Why wouldn't they Like
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: what do you mean? It's not their fault. That's the
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: perspective I haven't heard. Oh my mother ate me alive yesterday.
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: Oh, because she's seeing your like that with your son. Yes,
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: I'm like that with my People tell me like if
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: you if I ever have a boy, I'll understand it.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: But I feel like my mom's like that with my
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: little brother. It's like there's no accountability ever has she has?
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: Why that's her baby? And I'm like, what the heck? Like,
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: why is it like that? I don't get it because
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: I don't have a son, But how old is your brother.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: My brother is thirty.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Is he dating? Yeah? A couple of people. Yeah, yeah,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: that's what it is. Oh wait, I don't even he
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: might have a girlfriend, right, yeah, I don't know.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Trouble.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: He's in trouble anyway, trouble to death. But it happens.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: But what did mama and your son say about the
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Tamo Braxton fashion overad?
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: My son is like, oh, that's what you're putting on
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: the internet. Long it is different, Yeah, logan is different.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: My mother didn't really say anything.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: My mother know I'm outside for me heavy, but you know,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: I didn't see anything wrong with it. Was fashion. I
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: got it on fashion nove so I took a picture.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: They paid me for their clothes. Period. Period.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: How are your d ms after that picture?
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Interesting?
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Interesting?
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: They were very interesting.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Celebrity celebrities hitting you up all the time recently. It's
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: a crazy celebrity.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna give names, but they send like athletes, explicit stuff,
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: explicit stuff like body parts, explicit.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: You can say penis pic.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I want you to gross, I want you to
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: sing on it.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I.
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: Can only imagine what Corny is coming with it.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Just so your d has been popping. Have you anybody
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: back in the would.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: Never know the right person? Yeah, but no, no one
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: that I'm interested in.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Could you see yourself beating another singer, another art I've
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: never ever dated. That's why I said, could you ever see?
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: I think it'd be interesting I could. I think is
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: it hard? You think? Yeah? It is? Yeah? What makes
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: it hard?
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: I dated somebody in my line of work and it's
• 40:14
  Speaker 7: just like, really, why is the house is competitive at
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: that point?
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Competitive? Yes?
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Like I think you funny to me.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: I mean you ain't funny to me.
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: We're gonna do it tour together, but I'm gonna get
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: the split gonna be sixty forty seventy thirty. It's like, no, no,
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: you ain't that much money, Like, come on, come on now,
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: so's it can get competitive, you know what I mean?
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: And I know that there are relationships that work that
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: do work like that when both people are famous.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: But I think dating a regular person is worse. You
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: think that I do? Damn I don't understand us. Yeah,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: regular people you date become famous after Yes, yes, you're
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: giving people careers you know what? Leave me alone?
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: Yes, because I'd be like I even know this man
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: now I'm so invested like now.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: And now they have to thank you for putting them on.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, because I'm such in the public eye, you
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: know what, they can't. I can't help it. It really
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: wasn't done purposefully right. So that that's what makes it
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: hard to date a regular person because afterwards they feel
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: like they're leveling up on you.
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: Has any of your exes ever leveled up on you?
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: No?
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: Baby, that was that was a trick question. That was
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: a question that you didn't take a long time.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: He was level up on that right period.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Definitely checked cooking show, cooking sessions with Tamar and miss E.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Tamar is forty eight years old, and you when you.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: See pictures of her forty eight birthday, you're like Jesus
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Christ logan, you better check moms.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: He does guys block you that week? You blocked me, friend,
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: unblocked me?
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Now why you blocked me? For you was doing a lot?
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: It was birthday.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: It was soft point. Did you see pictures?
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: No ID? And it's not solid point. It's modeling. Why
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: can't I be a model? Article in here?
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Talking about gotten people every now and then? And you
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: got it? So I did right?
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: God all right.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Well, make sure you check out Tamar Braxton of cooking shows,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Cooking Sessions with Tamar and Miss Eve, her new project,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: and of course she's on tour April seventeenth. If you're
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: in Virginia, what port of Virginia, Norfolk, if you're in
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: the seven five seven, definitely check out.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: And we appreciate you for that.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Fred, Thank you guys. My new project comes
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: out on April eleventh. I'm gonna tell the people because
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: the people be acting like I'm gonna put it. I
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: don't put out enough music, and I'm appalled.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: We're excited that you are. It feels like it's been
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: a very long time. It has It has been a
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: long time.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: It has been last long but about a year ago.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: And I'm number one. Thank you my friends for Perry period.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: You got a wrecking out of play.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: I don't. That's say can you? Can you get what
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: you know? You don't want to do it yet? I
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: don't don't. We're gonna wait till this time April eleventh,
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: April eleven. I love y'all so much, your family.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: It's Tamar Braxton. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Wake
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: that ass up in the morning Club, breakfast Club,