Latest / Real America with Dan Ball / 10/19/26 -- Guest Host Eric Eggers w/ Andrew Kolvet, Dr. Andrew Fox, Cleta Mitchell, Rep. Ralph Norman, and Peter Schweizer
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Straight ahead on Real America. Countless weirdos hit the streets
- 0:05Speaker 1: for this weekend for the fourth round of No Kings
- 0:07Speaker 1: rallies since President Trump retook office. It's been less than
- 0:10Speaker 1: two years and we're already on the fourth one. This
- 0:13Speaker 1: time they're even worse than you might imagine. We'll walk
- 0:16Speaker 1: you through all the lowlights tonight. Plus, speaking of protests,
- 0:20Speaker 1: France is literally on fire right now as rioters and
- 0:22Speaker 1: looters torch the whole country. Our dear friend Dr. Andrew
- 0:26Speaker 1: Fox will join us to discuss the real reason for
- 0:28Speaker 1: the chaos. And the case against Ilhan Omar is heating
- 0:31Speaker 1: up fast. My colleague and friend Peter Schreiser will be
- 0:34Speaker 1: here to review the latest updates. I'm Eric Eggers, filling
- 0:37Speaker 1: in for Dan Ball. Real America starts right now. It's
- 1:00Speaker 1: always a good Monday if you can hear Tom Jones
- 1:02Speaker 1: and see aging hipsters waving signs. Good evening, everybody. I'm
- 1:06Speaker 1: your guest host, Eric Eggers. I'm filling in for Dan
- 1:08Speaker 1: Ball this week. Normally, you'd know me as the Vice
- 1:11Speaker 1: President of Research at the Government Accountability Institute. I also
- 1:14Speaker 1: co-host a podcast called The Drilldown with Peter Schweitzer. But
- 1:16Speaker 1: this week, I'm also the guest host of Real America.
- 1:19Speaker 1: Dan Ball will be back next week. But in the meantime,
- 1:22Speaker 1: you just saw it. We got a lot to cover.
- 1:24Speaker 1: So here we go. I'm a movie guy, and some
- 1:27Speaker 1: film franchises are so rich and iconic that you can
- 1:29Speaker 1: make a lot of different sequels that sometimes rival or
- 1:32Speaker 1: surpass the original. Like, Rocky won an Oscar. But Rocky IV,
- 1:36Speaker 1: we literally knocked out Soviet Russia. Sometimes, though, it seems
- 1:39Speaker 1: like the sequels get made just to keep the money flowing. Like,
- 1:43Speaker 1: did we really need to see an aging Harrison Ford
- 1:45Speaker 1: in Indiana Jones 4? He looked bad, and the audiences
- 1:49Speaker 1: largely stayed away. Kind of like what's happening with No Kings.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Here's another group of aging liberals with dwindling drawing power,
- 1:56Speaker 1: and they held their fourth installment of their production over
- 1:59Speaker 1: the weekend. The No Kings rallies were held, allegedly, all
- 2:02Speaker 1: over the country. Though even the New York Times, and
- 2:05Speaker 1: this is how you know it's bad, admitted that the
- 2:07Speaker 1: gatherings were more subdued, quote unquote, from some past events,
- 2:11Speaker 1: and many prominent Democrats skipped them. Look at the pictures
- 2:16Speaker 1: and videos online, and it's no wonder they didn't bother.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Look at these weirdos, countless of them, taking to the streets,
- 2:22Speaker 1: protesting about all the usual leftist issues. Immigration enforcement, the
- 2:27Speaker 1: conflict of Iran. They sang songs, I think. They waved signs,
- 2:31Speaker 1: and they urged people to vote blue in November. But
- 2:34Speaker 1: they also called for violence against President Trump, Vice President Vance,
- 2:38Speaker 1: FBI Director Kash Patel, and Republicans. It shouldn't be a surprise,
- 2:43Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean it's not real. To boot, many
- 2:46Speaker 1: meltdowns were seen, including in our nation's capital. Look at this.
- 2:51Speaker 2: We're here to send a message through our voices, music, signs,
- 2:56Speaker 2: and art that Americans are mad as hell and we
- 3:01Speaker 2: will vote.
- 3:02Speaker 1: They're going to vote. That's a real person. That's NetAI. Although,
- 3:08Speaker 1: speaking of AI, here is something funny. Meta, the parent
- 3:11Speaker 1: company of Facebook and Instagram, actually suspended the official No
- 3:15Speaker 1: Kings account on Instagram over the weekend because it looked
- 3:18Speaker 1: like their activity was being flooded by bots. The suspension
- 3:22Speaker 1: actually occurred during the demonstrations, but the account's online back now,
- 3:25Speaker 1: just in case you guys want to check it out. Moreover,
- 3:27Speaker 1: the company apologized for suspending the account and attributed the
- 3:31Speaker 1: situation to their automated security system, which viewed some of
- 3:34Speaker 1: the activity as potentially suspicious. I mean, there's lots of
- 3:37Speaker 1: suspicious things about No Kings, but online, I guess it
- 3:39Speaker 1: was more legit than Meta thought. Setting this issue aside,
- 3:42Speaker 1: demonstrations were actually a complete disaster. Watch this.
- 3:47Speaker 3: You will not be cured.
- 3:50Speaker 4: No use to cry or complain because you're uninsured.
- 3:56Speaker 5: The right-wing pan is this.
- 4:00Speaker 1: Join us now. He's a Turning Point USA spokesperson. He's
- 4:03Speaker 1: the executive producer of The Charlie Kirk Show, Andrew Colvin.
- 4:06Speaker 1: I must have missed it. Were you there? I didn't
- 4:09Speaker 1: see you in any of the videos, but how were
- 4:11Speaker 1: the rallies this weekend?
- 4:13Speaker 6: You know, I don't think I'm in that demographic. You know,
- 4:15Speaker 6: I'm not in a nursing home yet, and therefore I
- 4:19Speaker 6: chose to skip it. But I mean, you said it's
- 4:22Speaker 6: just a bunch of weirdos. And Eric, I think that's
- 4:25Speaker 6: perfectly spot on. It's just the weirdest group of aging
- 4:30Speaker 6: boomer hippies that really have nothing better to do with
- 4:34Speaker 6: their time other than complain and kvetch about a country
- 4:37Speaker 6: that they helped bankrupt. So I think this is why
- 4:41Speaker 6: you're seeing more and more Democrats opt out of this
- 4:43Speaker 6: because eventually the cringe catches up and nobody wants to
- 4:46Speaker 6: be a part of these optics. It's one of those
- 4:48Speaker 6: things where I think the first iteration, it was like, oh,
- 4:51Speaker 6: this could be like a new thing. The second one,
- 4:54Speaker 6: we actually saw some like actual large crowds And then
- 4:58Speaker 6: on the third, it was already waning. And so for
- 5:00Speaker 6: them to go back to the well for a fourth time,
- 5:02Speaker 6: I think was just a tactical error. Now they'll tell
- 5:04Speaker 6: you that this was all about getting out the vote
- 5:07Speaker 6: and that it wasn't about the public demonstrations, but I'm sorry,
- 5:09Speaker 6: if you don't have the numbers, if you don't have
- 5:11Speaker 6: the optics to back it up, then your, your ultimate
- 5:14Speaker 6: goal of getting ballots in early is going to fall
- 5:16Speaker 6: short as well. And so it just seems to be
- 5:18Speaker 6: a cringe fest. If you look at blue sky, they
- 5:21Speaker 6: were completely negative on the blue, uh, the no Kings turnout.
- 5:26Speaker 6: And so I think it was just a bust. And
- 5:28Speaker 6: I would doubt that George Soros is going to be
- 5:31Speaker 6: very keen to pump another $ 7 million into Indivisible in
- 5:35Speaker 6: the future.
- 5:36Speaker 1: Now, you noted that Democrats are campaigning on affordability issues,
- 5:40Speaker 1: but the economy can't clearly be that bad because none
- 5:43Speaker 1: of those people are working. So obviously, they didn't have
- 5:45Speaker 1: to go out and do anything to make some money.
- 5:47Speaker 1: They had the free time. But you shared a clip
- 5:50Speaker 1: on social media. So it was called the No Kings Rally.
- 5:52Speaker 1: But they weren't just kings, the few people that were there.
- 5:55Speaker 1: They weren't just kings. We had a queen at least
- 5:57Speaker 1: in presence also. I'm going to say, darlings, I want
- 5:59Speaker 1: you to say, I'm gorgeous, like you really mean it,
- 6:01Speaker 1: all right?
- 6:02Speaker 7: Darlings.
- 6:02Speaker 8: I'm gorgeous.
- 6:04Speaker 9: Now we're going to do one more, and I want
- 6:05Speaker 9: you to say it loud enough so that old man
- 6:07Speaker 9: living in our White House can hear you.
- 6:09Speaker 1: When I say, darlings, I want you to say, I vote,
- 6:12Speaker 1: all right?
- 6:13Speaker 10: Darlings.
- 6:15Speaker 1: We are strong. We are brave. We are gorgeous.
- 6:17Speaker 3: And don't let anyone take that away from us, darlings.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Keep dreaming, keep fighting, and let's keep voting. It's a
- 6:24Speaker 1: blue wave, everybody.
- 6:27Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, if you want to drive away like normies, independents,
- 6:31Speaker 6: black voters, that is exhibit A of how you do that.
- 6:35Speaker 6: Nobody normal, nobody that, you know, kind of represents the
- 6:39Speaker 6: center cut 60% of this country, maybe center cut 75%
- 6:42Speaker 6: of this country is going to look at that and
- 6:44Speaker 6: be like, Yeah, I want to be a part of
- 6:46Speaker 6: No Kings. That's my tribe. So I actually think they're
- 6:49Speaker 6: doing us a service in a roundabout way here, Eric,
- 6:52Speaker 6: that they're driving away people that otherwise would have been appealing,
- 6:56Speaker 6: that would have appealed to this. And I think that's
- 6:59Speaker 6: a good thing. I think we need to see them
- 7:01Speaker 6: for their true colors. And No Kings turned out to
- 7:04Speaker 6: be a total snooze fest and a cringe fest. So
- 7:06Speaker 6: welcome to your modern Democrat party, everybody.
- 7:09Speaker 1: I guess the good news is that Drag Queen was
- 7:11Speaker 1: at a rally and not reading to a group of
- 7:12Speaker 1: kindergartners at a library somewhere because that does seem to
- 7:15Speaker 1: be the other thing they do when they're not at
- 7:18Speaker 1: these rallies. Andrew, what's your sense of what we're going
- 7:21Speaker 1: to see? Do you think it's possible that the lack
- 7:23Speaker 1: of energy and lack of enthusiasm for the No Kings
- 7:26Speaker 1: rally speaks to a lack of enthusiasm for these cringy,
- 7:30Speaker 1: crazy ideas leftists are serving up in terms of their
- 7:33Speaker 1: politicians as well. We're told we're going to see this
- 7:35Speaker 1: blue tsunami or maybe the Democrats would do better because
- 7:38Speaker 1: of a red undertow. But is it possible if this
- 7:40Speaker 1: is what Democrats have that maybe Republicans aren't in as
- 7:43Speaker 1: bad a shape after all?
- 7:45Speaker 6: I'm so glad you asked this because I think people
- 7:47Speaker 6: need to not conflate two things. There is genuine frustration
- 7:52Speaker 6: with the Iran war, with the price of gas, with Epstein, OK?
- 7:55Speaker 6: But that does not mean that those people are running
- 7:59Speaker 6: to DSA and running to the Democrat Party. We work
- 8:02Speaker 6: with young people a lot at Turning Point USA. Obviously,
- 8:05Speaker 6: we're always on college campuses. This is what we do
- 8:07Speaker 6: day in and day out. They are maybe disillusioned with
- 8:12Speaker 6: President Trump on some level. Some of them have defected, certainly.
- 8:16Speaker 6: But they're not running for socialism, the vast majority. There
- 8:20Speaker 6: was a Pew poll that came out and said it
- 8:22Speaker 6: was about 50% are voting Democrats, 23%. voting Republican, but
- 8:26Speaker 6: there's more than a quarter of young voters that are undecided.
- 8:31Speaker 6: What that tells me is that maybe they're cynical, maybe
- 8:35Speaker 6: they're disillusioned, maybe it's a little nihilism setting up, or
- 8:38Speaker 6: what does it all mean, or what does it all matter?
- 8:40Speaker 6: But they are not enthused by this Democrat party. They're
- 8:43Speaker 6: not enthused by the far left radicalism that you're seeing
- 8:46Speaker 6: from Hasan Piker in this. So I think it would
- 8:48Speaker 6: be a mistake for us to assume that just because
- 8:51Speaker 6: they're frustrated, means that they're running to the left.
- 8:53Speaker 1: That's not what I'm seeing.
- 8:54Speaker 6: That's not what I'm hearing.
- 8:56Speaker 1: They want results.
- 8:57Speaker 6: Nobody on campus, and I would say this is indicative
- 9:00Speaker 6: of the larger electorate, nobody is saying, I want less conservatism.
- 9:03Speaker 1: They want results.
- 9:04Speaker 6: They want to know that the status quo is not
- 9:06Speaker 6: going to remain the status quo.
- 9:07Speaker 10: They want real change.
- 9:09Speaker 6: And so I'm actually, my glasses have full, I think,
- 9:11Speaker 6: early results from across the country. I'm right here in Phoenix, Arizona.
- 9:14Speaker 6: We're running points and points ahead of where we were
- 9:16Speaker 6: in 2022 on this very same day when it comes
- 9:19Speaker 6: to early voting. You know, you can't you could you
- 9:21Speaker 6: could draw too many conclusions from that. But what I
- 9:23Speaker 6: can tell you is I'm not seeing a blue tsunami.
- 9:25Speaker 6: I'm seeing Andy Biggs with a real shot to take
- 9:27Speaker 6: the governor's race here in this state. And you're seeing
- 9:30Speaker 6: that play out across the nation. We're doing better than
- 9:32Speaker 6: the polls. The doomerism would have you believe. So we
- 9:35Speaker 6: got to keep turning out and showing up. And we
- 9:38Speaker 6: could maybe have a really surprising midterm.
- 9:40Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 9:40Speaker 1: Imagine a world where young people all across the country
- 9:42Speaker 1: aren't excited about unleaded gasoline that starts with a four
- 9:45Speaker 1: or diesel that starts with a six. but they're also
- 9:47Speaker 1: not showing up to drag queen story hour at the
- 9:50Speaker 1: no queens protest.
- 9:51Speaker 7: Right.
- 9:51Speaker 1: I mean, that's, you know, both things can be true.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Andrew Colbert only tells us true things on this program.
- 9:57Speaker 1: He does a great job on The Charlie Kirk Show
- 9:58Speaker 1: as well. Thank you so much for joining us today.
- 10:00Speaker 3: Thanks, Eric. Appreciate it.
- 10:01Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, France is literally burning right now.
- 10:05Speaker 1: Thousands of people are rioting, looting, and marching through the streets.
- 10:08Speaker 1: These are literally the most violent protests to erupt in
- 10:11Speaker 1: France in years. We're going to talk about the real
- 10:14Speaker 1: reason for the chaos tonight. Plus, Michigan Senator Alyssa Slotkin
- 10:18Speaker 1: is facing huge backlash for her recent remarks targeting Republican
- 10:21Speaker 1: leaders to scare young conservatives from entering politics. You've got
- 10:25Speaker 1: to see this clip for yourself. And a little later,
- 10:28Speaker 1: the investigation against Ilhan Omar is rapidly heating up. Peter
- 10:32Speaker 1: Schweitzer will join us to discuss the updates and the
- 10:34Speaker 1: allegations against Omar. Stay with us. We'll be right back.
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- 11:26Speaker 1: Ah, Paris, the city of love, the city of beauty,
- 11:30Speaker 1: and now the city of bloodshed, chaos, looting, and rioting.
- 11:34Speaker 1: As we speak, France has seen its worst social unrest
- 11:37Speaker 1: in decades, and there's no end in sight. They don't
- 11:41Speaker 1: even seem to know what they're actually protesting anymore. Look
- 11:44Speaker 1: at the insanity scene this weekend. Thousands of businesses were pillaged.
- 11:49Speaker 1: Hundreds of police officers injured. More than half a million people, 500,000 people,
- 11:54Speaker 1: took to the streets to destroy France. Scenes show the
- 11:58Speaker 1: entire country going up in smoke, and now the people
- 12:01Speaker 1: are saying this is the start of another French revolution.
- 12:05Speaker 1: Some rioters even torched France's iconic Limoges Town Hall. It's
- 12:09Speaker 1: an iconic 19th century landmark. It was largely destroyed. They
- 12:13Speaker 1: set it on fire and made the 141-foot-tall clock tower
- 12:17Speaker 1: spire collapse amid clashes with police. Speaking of police clashes,
- 12:22Speaker 1: more than 2,000 people were arrested across the France this
- 12:25Speaker 1: weekend alone. That includes about 130 in Paris. All this
- 12:30Speaker 1: hysteria for what? The mainstream media says the chaos is
- 12:33Speaker 1: about education funding and the economy, but others kind of
- 12:36Speaker 1: can't say. And they wonder what's actually happening. And you
- 12:39Speaker 1: spot all these Palestinian flags in the streets. Either way,
- 12:43Speaker 1: their socialist president, Emmanuel Macron, is defending the rioters. Listen
- 12:47Speaker 1: to this.
- 12:48Speaker 11: The youth of our nation are expressing great anguish and
- 12:53Speaker 11: concern about the future, the conditions of where their careers
- 12:59Speaker 11: will take them, what role they will be able to
- 13:01Speaker 11: play in society.
- 13:03Speaker 12: They say that the future that they have is not
- 13:06Speaker 12: one that we could desire. And I hear what they
- 13:10Speaker 12: are saying. For the past 10 years, I've been fighting
- 13:12Speaker 12: for them. So we need to pay heed to what
- 13:15Speaker 12: they're saying. And we mustn't minimize the hardships that they
- 13:18Speaker 12: are facing.
- 13:19Speaker 1: Here to help us understand what's happening in France is
- 13:22Speaker 1: cultural expert, priest and professor Dr. Andrew Fox.
- 13:26Speaker 12: Dr.
- 13:26Speaker 1: Fox, thank you for being with us here today. What
- 13:29Speaker 1: in the world is happening in France?
- 13:32Speaker 10: Well, I think it's a two-sided coin here, and I
- 13:34Speaker 10: don't wish to underscore the seriousness of what's happening. But
- 13:39Speaker 10: if you look at this, it's a parody of Marie Antoinette.
- 13:45Speaker 10: President Macron is the man saying basically to his people,
- 13:49Speaker 10: let them eat cake. You and I can see it's
- 13:52Speaker 10: not anything small. This is a major turn page for
- 13:57Speaker 10: the country of France. I hope that Marine Le Pen
- 14:02Speaker 10: will get in because she's a no-nonsense woman who will
- 14:06Speaker 10: bring reform to what you're seeing on your screen right now.
- 14:08Speaker 10: So if Macron could only get away from let them
- 14:12Speaker 10: eat cake and realize what's actually happening, he may be
- 14:15Speaker 10: able to do something about this. But what you're seeing,
- 14:19Speaker 10: as you've rightly said, you've got Palestinian flags, you've got
- 14:23Speaker 10: Miss Wonderful Greta that turned up the other day with
- 14:26Speaker 10: her Palestinian flag. What has she and that got to
- 14:29Speaker 10: do with the origin of these riots, which is schools
- 14:34Speaker 10: that are inadequate, overfilled, poor teaching, poor graduation? What you're
- 14:41Speaker 10: seeing is an implosion of something much, much bigger. President
- 14:46Speaker 10: Trump has called it out and said, The root of
- 14:49Speaker 10: this is open borders for immigration. It's an immigration problem.
- 14:53Speaker 10: And I have to agree with that, not because our
- 14:56Speaker 10: president says so, but when you follow the data, when
- 14:59Speaker 10: you follow the actual facts, you've got a country that
- 15:03Speaker 10: cannot hold itself together because it's overrun by immigration.
- 15:08Speaker 1: Do you think it's possible that Greta Thunberg showed up
- 15:11Speaker 1: to advise the rioters to find a more environmentally friendly
- 15:14Speaker 1: way to burn buildings? Is that possible?
- 15:16Speaker 10: Oh, my goodness. You know, this young lady, I wish
- 15:19Speaker 10: her no offense or to disgrace myself, but it's like
- 15:22Speaker 10: she's coming from, you know, the land of the Oompa
- 15:25Speaker 10: Loompas from Willy Wonka and his chocolate factory. You know,
- 15:28Speaker 10: this short little Scandinavian lady, she will get any press
- 15:32Speaker 10: she can. just to promote her own cause. What has
- 15:35Speaker 10: she got to do with this?
- 15:37Speaker 9: Nothing.
- 15:38Speaker 10: But when you watch scenes like this on your screen,
- 15:40Speaker 10: and you see the French people sipping coffee while France
- 15:43Speaker 10: burns down or Paris burns down, you've got to ask yourself,
- 15:47Speaker 10: is revolution... really in their blood? And the answer's got
- 15:51Speaker 10: to be yes. You and I would never do this.
- 15:54Speaker 10: We'd never sip a cup of coffee while we watch
- 15:56Speaker 10: Paris burn. We'd get out of there or we'd do
- 15:59Speaker 10: something about that. So there is a sense that this
- 16:03Speaker 10: is what the French do. They've had at least seven
- 16:07Speaker 10: revolutions in their history. We've had one, right? And that's 7076,
- 16:12Speaker 10: which ironically is an Englishman, now a citizen, I celebrate
- 16:17Speaker 10: on July the 4th.
- 16:18Speaker 1: Yeah, you're welcome, Dr.
- 16:19Speaker 9: Fox.
- 16:20Speaker 13: Absolutely.
- 16:21Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the Greta Thunberg stuff. It's like playing some
- 16:24Speaker 1: kind of weird ideological twister. It's like, climate change and
- 16:28Speaker 1: Palestine and French schools, and they're all contorted. And I
- 16:32Speaker 1: think that's the challenge. But you're absolutely right. There is
- 16:35Speaker 1: revolution in the blood of a lot of these participants.
- 16:38Speaker 1: And who knows where it will end up? But you
- 16:40Speaker 1: do have to wonder, you talked about President Macron's response,
- 16:43Speaker 1: is let Paris burn the new let them eat cake.
- 16:46Speaker 1: I mean, what is the thing that has to be
- 16:48Speaker 1: done to stop it? And is France, and this is
- 16:51Speaker 1: not a French joke, but is their constitution too passive
- 16:54Speaker 1: to literally do anything about it?
- 16:57Speaker 10: Well, the pillars of their constitution, liberty and freedom, are
- 17:01Speaker 10: very different than the pillars of the United States. But
- 17:05Speaker 10: they do point in the same direction to the republic,
- 17:09Speaker 10: where the people can vote in their representatives. And Macron
- 17:13Speaker 10: is totally, in my opinion, he's not acknowledging there's the
- 17:18Speaker 10: failure of immigration policy, but there's also the failure of
- 17:23Speaker 10: integrating immigrants into a country. The overriding question has to be,
- 17:29Speaker 10: how do you welcome people from other countries with different languages,
- 17:33Speaker 10: traditions and customs and culture and religions and assimilate them
- 17:38Speaker 10: into French life? We're struggling with that in the United
- 17:41Speaker 10: States ourselves. But I think if we pay attention to
- 17:44Speaker 10: what's happening in Paris, we can see our near future
- 17:48Speaker 10: if we don't really toughen up immigration policy and the
- 17:54Speaker 10: integration process. of how those immigrants become one with the
- 17:59Speaker 10: nation they're joining. You see, it's a civic question as well.
- 18:03Speaker 10: The more and more people you invite in from other countries,
- 18:07Speaker 10: you have to ask yourself on a municipal level, on
- 18:10Speaker 10: a state level, and a federal level, how can we
- 18:14Speaker 10: house these people? How can we teach them schooling, education, housing, employment? uh,
- 18:21Speaker 10: medical services, policing, so on and so forth. All the
- 18:25Speaker 10: civic things that make up a society at some point
- 18:29Speaker 10: reach their breaking point. And if you've not taught those
- 18:32Speaker 10: newcomers how to assimilate into the life and the culture
- 18:37Speaker 10: of the country they've moved to, you're going to get anarchy.
- 18:40Speaker 10: And that's exactly what you're seeing.
- 18:43Speaker 1: Well, you're a very smart guy. You've got a lot
- 18:44Speaker 1: of books in your background, but I think the question
- 18:47Speaker 1: is how do you integrate people into a society that
- 18:50Speaker 1: don't want to be integrated. And I think the answer
- 18:52Speaker 1: to that is what you're seeing in the streets right now. Dr. Fox,
- 18:55Speaker 1: we have to leave it there. We're out of time.
- 18:56Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your perspective on this. I
- 18:59Speaker 1: wish that the people of France that are not drinking
- 19:01Speaker 1: coffee but want to save what French culture looks like
- 19:04Speaker 1: to stay safe. Thank you so much for your time tonight.
- 19:06Speaker 10: Absolute pleasure.
- 19:07Speaker 6: Absolutely.
- 19:07Speaker 1: All right, up next, there's only 15 days to go
- 19:10Speaker 1: until the midterms. Early voting is underway. And the Trump
- 19:13Speaker 1: administration is ramping up the fight to review voter rolls
- 19:16Speaker 1: and keep our elections secure right now. Stick around. We
- 19:19Speaker 1: have all the details up next.
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- 20:05Speaker 8: State audits have shown that non-citizen voting is extremely rare,
- 20:10Speaker 8: though it does happen.
- 20:13Speaker 1: Who would have guessed? Turns out non-citizens actually are voting
- 20:17Speaker 1: in our elections, despite what Democrats say. You just heard
- 20:21Speaker 1: it on 60 Minutes last night. It's all the talk
- 20:24Speaker 1: this week because early voting for the midterms, which are
- 20:26Speaker 1: just two weeks away, is actually happening right now. In fact,
- 20:31Speaker 1: several states started early person voting today. It's like that
- 20:35Speaker 1: song you'd sing in elementary school. Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut,
- 20:39Speaker 1: South Carolina, Texas, even Florida opened the doors today, and
- 20:43Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of people across the country have actually
- 20:47Speaker 1: already voted. All this comes amid a historic dispute between
- 20:51Speaker 1: the Department of Justice and blue states over voter rolls.
- 20:55Speaker 1: Not only is the DOJ suing California over 20,000 mail-in
- 20:58Speaker 1: ballots right now, believing they're tied to noncitizens, but also
- 21:02Speaker 1: they're asking a federal court to allow them to continue
- 21:04Speaker 1: to collect voter roll data for review. Imagine a world
- 21:08Speaker 1: where the federal authorities can actually look at the people
- 21:10Speaker 1: casting ballots in this country and making sure they're supposed
- 21:13Speaker 1: to be doing it. They asked the court to grant
- 21:15Speaker 1: them access on Friday night, and it really could come
- 21:17Speaker 1: down actually at any time. In the meantime, let's revisit
- 21:20Speaker 1: that 60-minute special from last night. Harmeet Dhillon, an American hero,
- 21:25Speaker 1: Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division of the
- 21:27Speaker 1: Department of Justice, spoke about this issue She actually explained
- 21:31Speaker 1: why the Trump administration is making it such a big deal.
- 21:34Speaker 9: Watch.
- 21:35Speaker 8: There are people who feel that the point is to
- 21:39Speaker 8: sow distrust about the whole election system. There are very
- 21:43Speaker 8: few people who are non-citizens who end up voting, very,
- 21:46Speaker 8: very few. And so therefore, what's the purpose?
- 21:51Speaker 14: The point is actually the opposite of what you were saying.
- 21:53Speaker 14: It's not to sow distrust.
- 21:54Speaker 1: The distrust is there.
- 21:56Speaker 14: And so all of these kinds of crimes are being
- 21:58Speaker 14: prosecuted now. for the first time really in volume. And
- 22:02Speaker 14: even the Biden administration prosecuted 13 people for non-citizen voting.
- 22:07Speaker 1: Join us now to weigh in on this and help
- 22:09Speaker 1: us understand what's at stake this election season is lawyer,
- 22:13Speaker 1: former Oklahoma State Representative and founder and chairman of the
- 22:17Speaker 1: Election Integrity Network, Cleta Mitchell. Now, Cleta, the reality is
- 22:22Speaker 1: it takes courage to talk about this in a way
- 22:25Speaker 1: that informs and is honest with the American people. I
- 22:27Speaker 1: thought Harmeet Dhillon was really honest last night. Your take
- 22:31Speaker 1: on the state of the conversation we're having about election
- 22:34Speaker 1: integrity in this country right now.
- 22:35Speaker 5: Well, we have two different conversations, Greg and Eric, and
- 22:40Speaker 5: I just really do appreciate your having me to talk
- 22:42Speaker 5: about this because about 90 percent of the American people
- 22:47Speaker 5: are having one conversation. And about 10% of the American
- 22:51Speaker 5: people are having a different conversation. And that 10% happens
- 22:55Speaker 5: to be the intelligentsia, quote unquote, of the Democratic Party,
- 22:59Speaker 5: the left, the far left, the Democratic Socialists of America,
- 23:02Speaker 5: et cetera. The rest of us really are having a
- 23:05Speaker 5: conversation about what can we do to make sure that
- 23:08Speaker 5: our elections are honest. What can we do to make
- 23:11Speaker 5: sure that only people who are eligible to vote, and
- 23:13Speaker 5: that would include United States citizens who meet the eligibility
- 23:18Speaker 5: requirements in their states, that those are the only people
- 23:23Speaker 5: on the voter rolls, those are the only people voting,
- 23:25Speaker 5: and that we need to clean the voter rolls and
- 23:28Speaker 5: make sure that, because we know that there are hundreds
- 23:30Speaker 5: of thousands of dead people on the rolls, and we
- 23:32Speaker 5: know that people want to have election day. They don't
- 23:36Speaker 5: really want election three months. And so they want to
- 23:39Speaker 5: be able for the polls to close and for all
- 23:41Speaker 5: the ballots to be in. And then they want processing
- 23:45Speaker 5: that is an election administration that doesn't have glitches and errors.
- 23:50Speaker 5: They don't want administrators sending out 30,000 ballots to people
- 23:53Speaker 5: who are not citizens. That's what the Secretary of State
- 23:55Speaker 5: of Colorado did. We want election administrators who make sure
- 24:00Speaker 5: that they're sending the ballots that have all the names
- 24:02Speaker 5: of the candidates. We've seen situations in Illinois just in
- 24:06Speaker 5: the last couple of weeks where they left off candidates
- 24:09Speaker 5: for Congress. They renamed one candidate for county commissioner as
- 24:13Speaker 5: a candidate for the U.S.
- 24:13Speaker 3: House of Representatives. I mean, people are tired of that.
- 24:17Speaker 5: And so we want to make certain that the voter
- 24:20Speaker 5: rolls have only the people who are eligible, legally.
- 24:23Speaker 3: Eligible to vote and no one else.
- 24:25Speaker 5: And we want to make sure that people casting ballots
- 24:28Speaker 5: are legally eligible voters. And that seems to be a
- 24:32Speaker 5: problem for the left, that 10%.
- 24:35Speaker 1: It's a problem. It's so much of a problem that
- 24:37Speaker 1: they threaten you with legal action. As I've said, I
- 24:40Speaker 1: wrote a book about election integrity. It came out in 2018.
- 24:44Speaker 1: And at the time- A great book, by the way.
- 24:46Speaker 3: A very great book, by the way.
- 24:47Speaker 1: That's actually why we had Cleet on the program, just
- 24:49Speaker 1: to endorse my book. But also to weigh in and
- 24:52Speaker 1: to give- people an update because the reality is elections
- 24:55Speaker 1: are happening right now and 80% of the ballots will
- 24:58Speaker 1: be counted before November 3rd. So the measures that are
- 25:02Speaker 1: in place, any cheating or any kind of election integrity
- 25:06Speaker 1: issues that people are getting away with now, it impacts
- 25:08Speaker 1: the vote right now. So I want to talk about
- 25:11Speaker 1: this 20,000 non-citizens that the DOJ is going after in California.
- 25:17Speaker 1: You have heard, and I've been part of your group,
- 25:19Speaker 1: which is amazing to do such good work. Talk about
- 25:22Speaker 1: how we got to that 20,000 and why they're so
- 25:25Speaker 1: certain that those 20,000 actually are non-citizens that are registered
- 25:28Speaker 1: to vote in California.
- 25:30Speaker 3: Well, actually, they don't know for certain. They're pretty certain.
- 25:33Speaker 5: What happened was that the Department of Homeland Security did
- 25:37Speaker 5: an analysis.
- 25:39Speaker 3: The publicly available voter rolls.
- 25:42Speaker 5: And because the states refuse to give, many states are
- 25:47Speaker 5: refusing to give their full, complete voter rolls to the
- 25:52Speaker 5: Department of Justice, which is odd to me because the
- 25:56Speaker 5: federal statute says that the Attorney General of the United
- 25:59Speaker 5: States is supposed to enforce the Federal Election Records Act.
- 26:03Speaker 5: and the National Voter Registration Act, so I'm not sure
- 26:05Speaker 5: how that's supposed to happen if they don't have access
- 26:08Speaker 5: to the data. And besides which, most of these states
- 26:10Speaker 5: are already giving this data and even more data to
- 26:15Speaker 5: two left-wing organizations, but that's a different topic for another day.
- 26:19Speaker 3: But DHS, the Department of Homeland Security, took the publicly.
- 26:22Speaker 5: Available voter rolls and they ran those rolls against other
- 26:26Speaker 5: data available to the Department of Homeland Security citizenship data,
- 26:31Speaker 5: other identifying data. And they were able to come up
- 26:34Speaker 5: with a process whereby they, I think they established either
- 26:39Speaker 5: six or seven fields. And of those, if they were
- 26:44Speaker 5: able to show that any person on the voter rolls
- 26:47Speaker 5: had fell within four of.
- 26:50Speaker 3: Those six fields.
- 26:53Speaker 5: Of an identifier or a marker that would suggest that
- 26:56Speaker 5: person is not a citizen, if And so they did
- 27:00Speaker 5: the preliminary investigation. And so the data that has been
- 27:05Speaker 5: sent by the Department of Justice or the letters and
- 27:09Speaker 5: the lawsuit from the Department of Justice are based on
- 27:12Speaker 5: letters that were sent to the election officials by the
- 27:15Speaker 5: Department of Homeland Security with a list saying, we believe
- 27:19Speaker 5: that these people who are on your voter rolls, that
- 27:22Speaker 5: there is a strong likelihood that that they are not citizens.
- 27:26Speaker 5: But only you can complete the investigation. We are asking
- 27:31Speaker 5: you to complete the investigation of these individuals to make certain.
- 27:36Speaker 3: That they're citizens.
- 27:37Speaker 1: And, Khalid, I just want to stop you right there.
- 27:39Speaker 1: And so think about that. You have the Department of Justice,
- 27:42Speaker 1: you have the Department of Homeland Security saying, hey, state California,
- 27:45Speaker 1: we believe we've got multiple identifiers, multiple indicators. You've got
- 27:49Speaker 1: potentially 20,000 non-citizens that are registered to vote. And in California,
- 27:54Speaker 1: they're mailing everybody a ballot. So we believe there's 20,000
- 27:56Speaker 1: non-citizens that are going to get a ballot in your state.
- 28:00Speaker 1: What do you think California said? Did they say, oh,
- 28:03Speaker 1: thank you so much, Department of Homeland Security. Thank you
- 28:05Speaker 1: for helping us potentially not violate the law. Was that
- 28:08Speaker 1: their reaction?
- 28:10Speaker 3: No, that was not their reaction. They didn't even look
- 28:13Speaker 3: at the list.
- 28:13Speaker 5: They just announced publicly they have no intention of conducting
- 28:16Speaker 5: any investigation. We're just going to ignore this. And they
- 28:19Speaker 5: went ahead and sent them ballots. And that is why
- 28:22Speaker 5: the Department of Justice sued them on Friday, saying, we
- 28:27Speaker 5: believe that you are potentially facilitating non-citizen voting, which makes it,
- 28:33Speaker 5: that's a separate criminal offense under the federal law. So look,
- 28:38Speaker 5: I mean, Harmeet Dhillon sent a letter in July to
- 28:41Speaker 5: every state attorney general saying, remember, it is a federal
- 28:45Speaker 5: offense to facilitate voting by non-citizens or anyone else illegal,
- 28:50Speaker 5: who can't legally vote in the United States. And so
- 28:53Speaker 5: it's not that they haven't had fair warning. They've had
- 28:56Speaker 5: fair warning. And so then the Department of Homeland Security
- 28:59Speaker 5: sends the list with this specific data. It says, we
- 29:03Speaker 5: think you need to investigate these people and make sure
- 29:06Speaker 5: they're citizens. Then the Department of Justice sent a letter
- 29:09Speaker 5: two weeks ago to California saying, you have.
- 29:12Speaker 3: This letter, you have this data.
- 29:14Speaker 5: We're going to be looking to you to conduct the
- 29:18Speaker 5: rest of the investigation.
- 29:19Speaker 3: They announced they weren't going.
- 29:20Speaker 1: To do it.
- 29:20Speaker 3: DOJ sued them. And I'm glad they did. I'm really
- 29:23Speaker 3: glad they did.
- 29:23Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called accountability, guys. It's accountability for Ilhan Omar.
- 29:26Speaker 1: It's accountability for California. And that's one thing that Mark
- 29:30Speaker 1: Wayne Mullen, Department of Homeland Security, has said is like,
- 29:32Speaker 1: if you facilitate election fraud, you will be held accountable.
- 29:35Speaker 1: And I think it's the American people, you guys watching
- 29:38Speaker 1: tonight should know that's one of the more popular things
- 29:40Speaker 1: I think to happen on the election integrity battlefield in
- 29:42Speaker 1: a long time. It's a really big deal. Claire, there's
- 29:45Speaker 1: one more thing I want to talk to you about.
- 29:48Speaker 1: There's nothing more American than I think fair and free
- 29:50Speaker 1: elections with potentially the one exception of baseball. And I
- 29:55Speaker 1: have to say that this your father-in-law, Dale Mitchell, you
- 29:59Speaker 1: see him on screen here You told me, and I
- 30:01Speaker 1: had no idea, the Cleveland, now they're the Guardians, whatever
- 30:04Speaker 1: you think about that, but they are playing in the
- 30:06Speaker 1: American League Championship Series tonight. The last time Cleveland won
- 30:10Speaker 1: the World Series, your father-in-law, seen here, was in left field.
- 30:15Speaker 1: What a moment.
- 30:15Speaker 3: That's right. That's right.
- 30:18Speaker 5: He was in left field on the 1948 Indians team
- 30:22Speaker 5: that won the World Series. He was also on the
- 30:24Speaker 5: team in 1954 that went to the World Series but lost.
- 30:28Speaker 5: Then he was sold to the Brooklyn Dodgers at the
- 30:31Speaker 5: end of the 1956 season. And the Brooklyn Dodgers played
- 30:35Speaker 5: the New York Yankees in the World Series that year.
- 30:38Speaker 3: And that was 1956.
- 30:40Speaker 5: And Dale Mitchell, my father-in-law, was, you'll see the films.
- 30:44Speaker 5: They always show them during the World Series. He was
- 30:47Speaker 5: the last out in Don Larson's perfect game against the
- 30:51Speaker 5: Yankees in the 1956 World Series. But he went to
- 30:55Speaker 5: his grave. He was known for not striking out. He
- 30:57Speaker 5: just was not a batter who he had a very
- 31:00Speaker 5: good eye and he didn't strike out. And that was
- 31:03Speaker 5: a called third strike. And he went to his grave
- 31:06Speaker 5: saying it was high and outside.
- 31:08Speaker 1: Well, he thought it was a ball. And I think now,
- 31:10Speaker 1: I think one of the things I love about your organization,
- 31:12Speaker 1: the Election Integrity Network, you guys just call balls and
- 31:14Speaker 1: strikes on election integrity. It matters.
- 31:17Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
- 31:17Speaker 1: American elections matter. And hey, I'm a Rays fan, but
- 31:20Speaker 1: for your sake, I will not be upset if Cleveland
- 31:23Speaker 1: wins tonight. But I think we should all be rooting.
- 31:25Speaker 1: We should all be on the same team. We shouldn't
- 31:26Speaker 1: have Democrats on one team and Republicans on the other
- 31:29Speaker 1: team fighting for American election integrity. But unfortunately, people in
- 31:33Speaker 1: California feel differently. Cleta, you're wonderful. Continue to fight the
- 31:36Speaker 1: good fight. We've got two more weeks. Let's keep making
- 31:38Speaker 1: sure these elections are secure.
- 31:41Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Really appreciate it.
- 31:43Speaker 1: Absolutely. That's Kalita Mitchell, everybody. Up next, the Democrats are
- 31:46Speaker 1: now saying the quiet part out loud. We'll talk to
- 31:50Speaker 1: South Carolina Congressman Ralph Norman. He'll join us to talk
- 31:53Speaker 1: about just how the left is using prosecution as a
- 31:56Speaker 1: political strategy against our youth. Don't go away.
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- 32:44Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying.
- 32:45Speaker 4: I want to look at these signature cases and not
- 32:48Speaker 4: just focus on the president, but on the people who
- 32:50Speaker 4: enabled him. I want young people coming out of school
- 32:54Speaker 4: to say, should I go work for the Trump administration? Like,
- 32:56Speaker 4: that sounds fun. I might get an opportunity. I want
- 32:59Speaker 4: them to be like, Lord, that might be buying myself
- 33:02Speaker 4: a ton of problems that I don't want. And so
- 33:05Speaker 4: let me avoid participating in that. I want that deterrence message.
- 33:10Speaker 1: So much for the party of democracy, right? Nothing says
- 33:13Speaker 1: I love democracy quite like talking about targeting Republican leaders
- 33:16Speaker 1: to scare young conservatives from getting involved in politics. Now,
- 33:21Speaker 1: in case you're just seeing this clip for the first time,
- 33:23Speaker 1: let us fill you in because it's actually sparking a
- 33:26Speaker 1: huge firestorm. That was Senator Alyssa Slotkin, a Democrat from Michigan.
- 33:31Speaker 1: She made the remark during a live recording of a
- 33:33Speaker 1: podcast nearly a week ago at the University of Chicago.
- 33:36Speaker 1: You heard her openly contending that Democrats should go after
- 33:39Speaker 1: Republicans framing the Soviet-style campaign as a quest for real accountability.
- 33:44Speaker 1: But actually, her diatribe sounds more like a thinly veiled
- 33:47Speaker 1: threat against Republicans, Republican voters, and kind of anyone who
- 33:51Speaker 1: stands in the way of Democrats. Now, that to me
- 33:54Speaker 1: is not democracy. You might know it by its better name, communism.
- 33:59Speaker 1: Joining us now to talk about this and the threat
- 34:01Speaker 1: that Democrats want to pose to Republicans moving forward is
- 34:04Speaker 1: Congressman Ralph Norman. He sits on the House Financial Services
- 34:07Speaker 1: and Budget and Rules Committee. Congressman Norman, can you imagine
- 34:14Speaker 1: a world that you hear a sitting member of the
- 34:16Speaker 1: United States Congress talking about that openly?
- 34:20Speaker 15: You know, when you listen to what her words, what
- 34:23Speaker 15: she said, it just shows you that these people are
- 34:28Speaker 15: bent on power. They're bent on punishment. And suing young
- 34:34Speaker 15: people who want to go into an administration, whether it's
- 34:37Speaker 15: to Trump or other administrations.
- 34:41Speaker 3: Is unbelievable.
- 34:42Speaker 15: I mean, where is the ideals that they could say
- 34:47Speaker 15: that they aspire to do? Where is it? And they
- 34:49Speaker 15: assume they're taking power. I don't give them that credit yet,
- 34:52Speaker 15: but they assume that they are. And this is what
- 34:55Speaker 15: they're going to be doing instead of, you know, making
- 34:57Speaker 15: this country better, making the election secure, making our cities safer.
- 35:02Speaker 15: Here they are talking about suing people. It's a scare
- 35:05Speaker 15: tactic that ought to be repelled by every American who
- 35:08Speaker 15: And it ought to scare every voter who thinks about
- 35:11Speaker 15: voting for a Democrat because they're the Democrat Socialist Party.
- 35:17Speaker 15: And I would even say harsher than that, they're the
- 35:19Speaker 15: Communist Socialist Party.
- 35:22Speaker 1: It certainly has echoes of communism. I'm not sure what
- 35:25Speaker 1: part of threatening Republicans lowers people's gas prices or makes
- 35:29Speaker 1: groceries more affordable, the things we were told Democrats care about.
- 35:32Speaker 1: and what they're campaigning on this election season. I guess
- 35:35Speaker 1: I just want to ask you, because you have experience,
- 35:37Speaker 1: Congressman Norman, and while your congressional campaign and your career is,
- 35:41Speaker 1: I think, coming to an end this year, but you
- 35:45Speaker 1: have seen the evolution of our political process. Where did
- 35:49Speaker 1: this come from? Because it didn't used to be like this,
- 35:52Speaker 1: did it?
- 35:53Speaker 13: No, and it's.
- 35:54Speaker 15: Hard for a lot of Americans, older Americans particularly, who
- 35:58Speaker 15: remember the Democrat Party of the 60s and 70s, the
- 36:01Speaker 15: Tip O'Neills who could get with Ronald Reagan and have
- 36:04Speaker 15: a discussion. I've been serving in Congress since 2017, and
- 36:08Speaker 15: it's evolved. The radical nature of the Democrat Party has
- 36:15Speaker 15: involved since, I guess, the last eight, nine years that
- 36:19Speaker 15: I've been in Congress. They are, I mean, they're the
- 36:22Speaker 15: party that opened the borders up to everybody, letting criminals in.
- 36:26Speaker 15: They're the parties that established sanctuary cities where you had,
- 36:32Speaker 15: police departments not cooperating with federal agents. They're the party
- 36:39Speaker 15: who wants bigger government to own grocery stores, not the
- 36:42Speaker 15: American entrepreneurial business leaders that made this country great. So
- 36:47Speaker 15: it's just a scary thought. It's one that Americans have
- 36:51Speaker 15: got to repel, and we've got to understand that we're
- 36:55Speaker 15: in the fight of a lifetime. Freedom's not free, and
- 36:58Speaker 15: we're in danger of losing the freedom that we take
- 37:03Speaker 15: for granted. And as Ronald Reagan says, every generation you
- 37:08Speaker 15: have to fight for it, and now more than ever.
- 37:11Speaker 1: We've been talking about how elections are actually happening right now.
- 37:14Speaker 1: Eighty percent of the ballots will be counted by November 3rd.
- 37:17Speaker 1: So the threats that we may face, depending upon how
- 37:20Speaker 1: these midterm elections go, could not be more present literally
- 37:26Speaker 1: starting right now. What do you think is the biggest
- 37:28Speaker 1: thing you should be, you're concerned about? What should Americans
- 37:31Speaker 1: watching you tonight be the most concerned about? You heard
- 37:34Speaker 1: the threat of, you know, this kind of communist ideology
- 37:37Speaker 1: in terms of trying to go after Republicans generally. But
- 37:40Speaker 1: what specifically are you the most concerned about if Democrats
- 37:44Speaker 1: do take control of the House, possibly the Senate?
- 37:48Speaker 15: I'm concerned about what the blueprint that they're saying for America.
- 37:51Speaker 15: They're going to expand the Supreme Court. they're going to
- 37:57Speaker 15: take cities and do away with the police departments. They're
- 38:00Speaker 15: going to spin this country into oblivion on more welfare,
- 38:05Speaker 15: more government-run agencies, just like they're doing in New York,
- 38:09Speaker 15: just like they've done in California. Americans are losing their freedoms,
- 38:14Speaker 15: and it's like losing your health. Once you've lost it,
- 38:17Speaker 15: it's hard to get it back. So we ought to
- 38:19Speaker 15: take them for their word. Slocum is just one of
- 38:21Speaker 15: the many who are advocating that. Now, a lot of
- 38:25Speaker 15: them are trying to take a middle, trying to project
- 38:28Speaker 15: a middle road approach, but there's nothing middle road about
- 38:32Speaker 15: total government-run health care, cities without police officers, sanctuary cities
- 38:40Speaker 15: in particular, opening the border up again, which caused so
- 38:43Speaker 15: much damage to this country. That's what you get, and
- 38:46Speaker 15: particularly with the Supreme Court with lifetime appointments, expanding that,
- 38:51Speaker 15: making Washington a state That's not per the Constitution. So
- 38:56Speaker 15: we've got our work cut out to make sure this
- 38:58Speaker 15: doesn't happen because to put them in power is a
- 39:02Speaker 15: danger to the one word that I would say that
- 39:05Speaker 15: they're going to take away, which is freedom.
- 39:08Speaker 1: Yeah, if that's the middle of the road, that road
- 39:10Speaker 1: leads to Moscow or communist China. And I think it's
- 39:14Speaker 1: shocking to hear people use that language here in the
- 39:16Speaker 1: United States. You mentioned Tip O'Neill earlier, and I remember
- 39:19Speaker 1: reading a story about Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan and
- 39:22Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan coming to Tip O'Neill's office, and actually it
- 39:25Speaker 1: was Chris Matthews, the former talk show host, joked to
- 39:28Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan, say, hey, this is where we plot against you, Mr. President.
- 39:31Speaker 1: And Ronald Reagan said, not after five o'clock you don't.
- 39:34Speaker 1: There used to be a level of collegiality. There used
- 39:36Speaker 1: to be a level of we're all kind of on
- 39:38Speaker 1: the same team. And I'm wondering, in your decade in
- 39:42Speaker 1: service to this country, when did you start to see
- 39:44Speaker 1: that change? And are the personal relationships and personal conversations
- 39:48Speaker 1: you have with your fellow members of Congress? Are they
- 39:50Speaker 1: changing as well as you hear? Is the tone we
- 39:53Speaker 1: hear on that audio clip the same as the tone
- 39:56Speaker 1: you hear in private?
- 39:59Speaker 15: You know, to be honest with you, we don't really
- 40:00Speaker 15: talk that much. You see them in the gymnasium. You
- 40:03Speaker 15: see them in the morning when they go to exercise.
- 40:06Speaker 15: You see them on the House floor. But it's a
- 40:09Speaker 15: radical group. I mean, it just is. You know, they
- 40:13Speaker 15: side with a lot of the terrorists that are inflicting
- 40:17Speaker 15: damage across this country. Look what The Biden administration, look
- 40:21Speaker 15: what the Obama administration did with Iran. Instead of taking
- 40:25Speaker 15: them on and making sure they don't have nuclear weapons,
- 40:27Speaker 15: as Trump did, they paid them bribe money. I mean,
- 40:30Speaker 15: that's the kind of radical ideology that they have. There's
- 40:35Speaker 15: many Muslims that have been elected to Congress. The Muslims
- 40:40Speaker 15: is a sect. It's a violent sect to say that.
- 40:44Speaker 15: that's their mantra. It does not go with the constitution
- 40:47Speaker 15: of this country that's built this country and that this
- 40:50Speaker 15: country is founded on. So it's so many dangers that
- 40:54Speaker 15: are out there right now, and we just can't let
- 40:56Speaker 15: it happen. And the American voters need to be aware
- 40:58Speaker 15: of when you vote for a Democrat, you vote for
- 41:02Speaker 15: a person that is sworn to the ideology that takes
- 41:05Speaker 15: campaign money from a group that is radical as I
- 41:09Speaker 15: have ever seen it. And it wasn't this way with
- 41:12Speaker 15: Lyndon Johnson. It wasn't this way with John Kennedy. In fact,
- 41:16Speaker 15: John Kennedy today would be a Republican. He wouldn't be
- 41:19Speaker 15: a Democrat because he's not an ideologue that believes in
- 41:23Speaker 15: government-run everything, which is what they do.
- 41:26Speaker 1: There's a lot of presidential candidates on the Democrat side who,
- 41:29Speaker 1: according to their policy views in 2008, would be Republicans today,
- 41:32Speaker 1: to your point, Congressman Norman. We thank you for your time.
- 41:35Speaker 1: We thank you for your decade in service. We wish
- 41:37Speaker 1: you all the best. And I'll say, you mentioned the
- 41:40Speaker 1: number of Muslims that are being elected to Congress. We've
- 41:42Speaker 1: got news on Ilhan Omar after this. Thank you so
- 41:45Speaker 1: much for your time, Congressman Norman. You heard him talk
- 41:47Speaker 1: about the number of Democrats that are elected and Muslims. Well,
- 41:50Speaker 1: one Muslim Democrat in particular is in the news. The
- 41:53Speaker 1: Ilhan Omar investigation is heating up. Next, we have the
- 41:56Speaker 1: president of the Government Accountability Institute, Peter Schweitzer, to discuss
- 41:59Speaker 1: this sticky situation. She's found herself in some hot water.
- 42:03Speaker 1: We'll find out just how much trouble she could be
- 42:05Speaker 1: in next.
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- 42:49Speaker 3: I have no worry.
- 42:51Speaker 11: I don't know how they take away my citizenship and
- 42:53Speaker 11: deport me.
- 42:55Speaker 9: But I don't even know why that's such a scary threat.
- 42:59Speaker 3: I'm not the eight-year-old who escaped war anymore. I'm grown.
- 43:02Speaker 3: My kids are grown. I can go live wherever I want.
- 43:07Speaker 1: She's not worried at all. She's not eight, although she
- 43:10Speaker 1: might have said she was to get immigration status in
- 43:11Speaker 1: this country. The absolute nerve of Ilhan Omar. Another day
- 43:16Speaker 1: and another clip of the Minnesota Congresswoman making the rounds
- 43:20Speaker 1: on social media. The embattled socialist is still in hot
- 43:23Speaker 1: water this week as federal investigators build a case centered
- 43:26Speaker 1: around allegations of immigration fraud, and top observers say their
- 43:30Speaker 1: case is strong. Speaking of the case, we have some
- 43:33Speaker 1: critical updates about it. For starters, Barack Obama, who knows
- 43:37Speaker 1: a thing or two about questionable birth certificates and immigration issues,
- 43:40Speaker 1: is getting involved now, too. He had defended Omar this
- 43:43Speaker 1: weekend and attacked the Trump administration, accusing them of targeting her.
- 43:48Speaker 1: Taking to the social media platform X, he practically published
- 43:51Speaker 1: a full essay, writing, quote, the fact that any president
- 43:54Speaker 1: or any administration is willing to engage in such transparent
- 43:57Speaker 1: efforts to intimidate someone should outrage all Americans, regardless of
- 44:01Speaker 1: how they feel about Congressman Omar's political views. Give me
- 44:05Speaker 1: a break. Those are bold words coming from the man
- 44:08Speaker 1: who practically sanctioned the Russia collusion hoax. Although, certainly Barack
- 44:12Speaker 1: Obama's not alone on this issue. Countless Democrats are defending
- 44:15Speaker 1: Omar online and in the press, including people like Michigan
- 44:18Speaker 1: Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib. Watch this.
- 44:21Speaker 3: They use her ethnicity as a Somalian.
- 44:23Speaker 7: They use her as a refugee.
- 44:25Speaker 5: They use her immigrant status, the fact that she's Muslim,
- 44:28Speaker 5: wear a hijab, a black woman.
- 44:30Speaker 4: All of those identities in all one woman.
- 44:33Speaker 1: Even though she's small, I know she's tough.
- 44:35Speaker 4: But it is hard for me to see her family
- 44:37Speaker 4: being targeted like this.
- 44:39Speaker 1: Totally false. This investigation has nothing to do with race
- 44:43Speaker 1: or religion. This case is about serious allegation of potential
- 44:46Speaker 1: immigration crimes, and the top officials in the White House
- 44:49Speaker 1: say this case is actually about accountability. That includes our
- 44:53Speaker 1: border czar, Tom Homan. Watch this.
- 44:56Speaker 13: The allegations were made clear, and it would be investigated,
- 44:59Speaker 13: and they are investigating it. I'm not going to get
- 45:01Speaker 13: ahead of, you know, the Bureau or HSI, but, you know,
- 45:06Speaker 13: I've been told they have a strong case, and we'll
- 45:08Speaker 13: let the evidence lead where it leads, but she'll be
- 45:11Speaker 13: held to the same standards you and I are held.
- 45:13Speaker 13: If she violated law, then she'd be held accountable.
- 45:18Speaker 1: Speaking of accountability, I can think of no person more
- 45:21Speaker 1: equipped to talk about this than the president of the
- 45:23Speaker 1: Government Accountability Institute, my colleague there, and also my co-host
- 45:26Speaker 1: on the Drill Down podcast with his elite name, Peter Schweitzer. Peter,
- 45:30Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. What do you think about
- 45:32Speaker 1: this investigation, and what do you say to people who
- 45:34Speaker 1: say it's motivated by anything other than actually holding people
- 45:38Speaker 1: to account for their actions?
- 45:41Speaker 7: Well, Eric, I think always you need to look at
- 45:43Speaker 7: what the allegation is and to see if there's evidence
- 45:45Speaker 7: that it may be correct. And I think in both
- 45:47Speaker 7: of those instances, it warrants further investigation. Look, this is
- 45:51Speaker 7: not some technical error, whether she lied or her father
- 45:54Speaker 7: lied about her age in order to get immigration status
- 45:59Speaker 7: in the United States. It determines her pathway to citizenship.
- 46:02Speaker 7: And you're not allowed to lie about anything. on these
- 46:05Speaker 7: immigration forms. So I think it's absolutely legitimate. I'm glad
- 46:09Speaker 7: they're looking at it. And the charges of race or
- 46:12Speaker 7: discrimination based on the fact that she's Muslim is really
- 46:15Speaker 7: just distracting from the core issue here. She could clear
- 46:18Speaker 7: this up very, very easily by providing all of the
- 46:21Speaker 7: records necessary to show when she was born, but she
- 46:24Speaker 7: has not done that so far.
- 46:26Speaker 1: You've built a career holding politicians accountable. You've exposed insider trading.
- 46:30Speaker 1: You've exposed the way they use their campaign accounts to
- 46:32Speaker 1: lavish their lifestyles. What do you make of the stridency
- 46:35Speaker 1: with her responses? I know you've seen members of Congress
- 46:38Speaker 1: respond in lots of different kinds of ways to different allegations.
- 46:41Speaker 1: What does the way she's responding to this tell you?
- 46:45Speaker 7: Yeah, the over the top response indicates to me that
- 46:48Speaker 7: there may be some truth to these allegations. So she's
- 46:51Speaker 7: gonna try to deal with it by generating a lot
- 46:53Speaker 7: of heat and a lot of conflict. And look, there's
- 46:55Speaker 7: always been a lot of questions about Ilhan Omar and
- 46:58Speaker 7: her foreign ties, which are legitimate questions. Let's remember when
- 47:01Speaker 7: she was in the Minnesota State Legislature, representing District 60B.
- 47:07Speaker 7: She was off meeting with the president of Somalia, meeting
- 47:10Speaker 7: with the president of Turkey. I don't know any other
- 47:13Speaker 7: time where somebody in the state legislature has ever met
- 47:16Speaker 7: with foreign leaders. Both of those leaders are significant, by
- 47:19Speaker 7: the way, Eric, because they are both linked to the
- 47:21Speaker 7: Muslim Brotherhood. And there's been a lot of allegations that
- 47:24Speaker 7: the Muslim Brotherhood has been involved in helping to finance
- 47:27Speaker 7: her campaign and, of course, campaigns like the Al-Said campaign
- 47:31Speaker 7: in Michigan as well. These are legitimate questions, and the
- 47:34Speaker 7: fact that she's so agitated about it leads me to
- 47:37Speaker 7: believe that there may be something there.
- 47:39Speaker 1: Peter, I know you've been doing some work on this,
- 47:41Speaker 1: and you and I have spoken about this on the
- 47:42Speaker 1: podcast that we do. For people that aren't as familiar
- 47:45Speaker 1: with the Muslim Brotherhood, because, as you noted, it's become
- 47:47Speaker 1: a relevant talking point in the Senate campaign in Michigan
- 47:50Speaker 1: as well, Why should people be concerned about ties to
- 47:53Speaker 1: the Muslim Brotherhood, and what does it mean potentially for
- 47:56Speaker 1: a sitting member of Congress who represents United States citizens
- 47:59Speaker 1: to be affiliated with them?
- 48:01Speaker 7: Yeah, the Muslim Brotherhood is basically a jihadist organization that's
- 48:06Speaker 7: different from Al-Qaeda only in one fact. Al-Qaeda, Osama bin
- 48:11Speaker 7: Laden's group, believed that it was violent jihad that was
- 48:14Speaker 7: the most successful path to defeating the Judeo-Christian West. What
- 48:19Speaker 7: the Muslim Brotherhood says is no, violent jihad won't work.
- 48:22Speaker 7: We're not opposed to it. but it's not effective because
- 48:25Speaker 7: they have so much military power. So they believe in
- 48:28Speaker 7: civilizational jihad. And the notion here is to supplant the Constitution,
- 48:33Speaker 7: supplant our way of life, and move us in the
- 48:35Speaker 7: direction of an Islamic caliphate. So this is a revolutionary organization.
- 48:40Speaker 7: That is their ambition. And they are very, very well
- 48:44Speaker 7: connected in the United States and throughout Western Europe.
- 48:47Speaker 1: And I think what's telling, too, is the mindset of
- 48:50Speaker 1: established politicians in Minnesota specifically, We've played audio before of
- 48:55Speaker 1: the people who would eventually be indicted. They were involved
- 48:58Speaker 1: in this fraud in Minnesota. Meeting with the attorney general
- 49:01Speaker 1: in Minnesota, Keith Ellison, saying, hey, can you please protect
- 49:04Speaker 1: us from these white state bureaucrats who want to actually
- 49:07Speaker 1: enforce the law? And of course, Attorney General Ellison's key
- 49:10Speaker 1: instinct was, yes, I will definitely support you. Of course,
- 49:13Speaker 1: feds would raid their officials and buildings later. But the
- 49:17Speaker 1: point is, there's definitely a mentality of entitlement. They don't
- 49:20Speaker 1: expect to be held to account. Do you think this
- 49:22Speaker 1: potentially means that the tide is turning? We're less concerned
- 49:26Speaker 1: about being accused of racism or anything politically incorrect, and
- 49:29Speaker 1: they're actually trying to enforce law. Is that one of
- 49:31Speaker 1: the takeaways potentially from this story?
- 49:33Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I think that's a great point. And I
- 49:35Speaker 7: think it's the grounds for optimism. I think we all
- 49:37Speaker 7: have to hold our breath that even if the evidence
- 49:40Speaker 7: is overwhelming, this will probably be something that will be
- 49:44Speaker 7: handled administratively. There's probably gonna be a judicial appeal in Minnesota.
- 49:49Speaker 7: So we don't know what a liberal judge in Minneapolis
- 49:52Speaker 7: might do to sort of gum up the works. But
- 49:54Speaker 7: the bottom line in this case is, if she violated
- 49:57Speaker 7: the law, it is an immigration matter, and she could
- 50:00Speaker 7: be stripped of her citizenship and expelled from the country.
- 50:03Speaker 7: And that is a potential reality if, in fact, there
- 50:07Speaker 7: were lies, material lies, on her application. And that is
- 50:12Speaker 7: what the administration and what the customs people are alleging.
- 50:16Speaker 1: Last question for me, Peter. I know you're not a lawyer,
- 50:18Speaker 1: but you used the word lie. Is it important or
- 50:21Speaker 1: does it matter at all if it was intentional deception?
- 50:24Speaker 1: What if it's just an error? If it was a
- 50:25Speaker 1: lie or an error, does it matter as it relates
- 50:27Speaker 1: to the federal government's stance on this?
- 50:29Speaker 7: No, if it's material, meaning it has a huge impact.
- 50:32Speaker 7: So for example, if you have a criminal record and
- 50:35Speaker 7: you don't put it on your immigration status, this has
- 50:37Speaker 7: happened to people before. They come to the United States
- 50:40Speaker 7: and it's revealed that no, actually you were convicted of
- 50:42Speaker 7: murder in your home country. You could say, I'm sorry,
- 50:45Speaker 7: I just forgot.
- 50:46Speaker 1: I mean, maybe you did, maybe you didn't. It doesn't matter.
- 50:49Speaker 7: None of those defenses apply. That's why it's so important
- 50:52Speaker 7: when you are dealing with the very specific material aspects
- 50:56Speaker 7: of an immigration application, that you be truthful and honest
- 50:59Speaker 7: in every single aspect. So that's not going to be
- 51:02Speaker 7: a defense in this case.
- 51:03Speaker 1: It's important to be honest. It's definitely something we'll be
- 51:05Speaker 1: continuing to watch as we move forward. Peter Schweitzer, a
- 51:09Speaker 1: best-selling author, someone who continues to shine light on the
- 51:12Speaker 1: darkest parts of our American political process, and the president
- 51:15Speaker 1: of the Government Accountability Institute. He's also my boss. So
- 51:18Speaker 1: thank you for joining us today. You're wonderful as always.
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