Latest / Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo / Claude Stauffer: Ready and Unashamed, Keys to Romans
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- 0:00Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
- 0:10defending biblical Christianity.
- 0:13No topic off limits.
- 0:16And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
- 0:19Hey, friends, thank you so much for tuning in.
- 0:23We've got a great topic on the book of Romans to discuss today with Pastor Claude Stoffer
- 0:28and his blog site is shepherdofhope.org.
- 0:31And church, I want to mention that as well, Calvary, Chapel of Hope, Calvary, Chapel of Hope.
- 0:39He's a New Yorker, but we won't hold that against him.
- 0:43I just want to remain.
- 0:44He's been on the show before, but I want to just remind you who we're talking to,
- 0:48because I love this brother.
- 0:49He's a graduate of Hofstra University and Asbury Theological Seminary.
- 0:54And he has been in ministry since 1986,
- 0:58presently serving as a senior pastor of Calvary, Chapel of Hope.
- 1:01And that church had its beginning in 93.
- 1:06He also serves as a chaplain on the New York State Chaplaincy Task Force
- 1:11and his book that we're going to talk about today is called Ready and Unashamed.
- 1:15This is Pastor Claude's eighth book.
- 1:18His teachings are aired on his Living Hope Radio Program.
- 1:21And he's been happily married to his wife D for 36 years.
- 1:26And you can get more information on his teachings and writings
- 1:31at the church website, Calvary, Chapel of Hope.com.
- 1:36So we'll bring in Pastor Claude.
- 1:37Welcome, brother.
- 1:38Good to see you again.
- 1:39Good to be here, David.
- 1:41Yeah, I've got it.
- 1:42I'm well armed.
- 1:43I've got my ammo here.
- 1:45Watch out, it's hot.
- 1:46It's on fire.
- 1:48Yeah, yeah.
- 1:48So this is the new one.
- 1:50I'm glad we got this.
- 1:51And by the way, did you know you sent me two copies?
- 1:54No, that's two volumes.
- 1:56Oh, I didn't realize that.
- 1:57I've got to look at the other one.
- 1:59Okay, I've got two 8 and 9 through 16.
- 2:02Because they came in two separate packages from two separate,
- 2:05now I know.
- 2:06I've set the other one aside.
- 2:08I'm glad I'm going through the first one.
- 2:09But anyway, let's talk about the title, Claude,
- 2:12because you could write about anything.
- 2:14How many books are there in the Bible?
- 2:16How many letters?
- 2:17How many topics?
- 2:18But this one you decided to tackle was the book of Romans.
- 2:22And let's talk about the title, Ready and Unashamed.
- 2:26So your inspiration behind that.
- 2:28You're desired to do this at this point.
- 2:30Well, in verse 15 and 16 of the first chapter, Paul says,
- 2:34so it's so as much as is in me,
- 2:37I am ready to preach the gospel to you who are in Rome also.
- 2:41So he's ready to preach the gospel.
- 2:43And then in verse 16, for I am not ashamed
- 2:47of the gospel of Christ,
- 2:48or it is the power of God to salvation
- 2:50for everyone who believes for the Jew first
- 2:53and also for the Greek.
- 2:54So that just really struck a note with me
- 2:58that Paul was ready on a shame in verse 14.
- 3:02He actually says, I am a debtor.
- 3:04He felt as though he was a debtor to share to minister with people.
- 3:09And boy, if there's ever a spirit or an attitude
- 3:13that we need today as Christians,
- 3:15we need to have that sense of being a debtor to our Lord
- 3:18to share the gospel and fulfill a great commission.
- 3:21And we need to be ready.
- 3:23And we need to be unashamed.
- 3:25And I think shame is the consequence of ill preparedness.
- 3:34And to be unashamed is the benefit of being prepared.
- 3:39If you study, if you know what you believe,
- 3:43if you know that will help you to be powerful and more bold.
- 3:48Amen. Amen, brother.
- 3:50It's interesting your first volume tackles Romans 1 through 8.
- 3:55Those two chapters, Romans 1 and Romans 8,
- 4:00are some of the most powerful, insightful, impactful,
- 4:06and theological chapters and in my opinion, the New Testament.
- 4:10Your thoughts?
- 4:11Well, they're certainly relevant, you know.
- 4:14And, you know, bro, it's really sad that in the church today,
- 4:22that so much of it has become woke, so much of it has looked to the world
- 4:27to get their direction and their inspiration rather than the word of God.
- 4:33I think if the churches were preaching and teaching Romans 1 through 8,
- 4:39or just the Book of Romans period, I think we'd have revival.
- 4:43You know, I think one of the things I mentioned in the introduction of the book
- 4:47is that a man by the name of Frederick Gaudet said that when you look historically at revivals
- 4:54that you'd be hard pressed to find a revival that wasn't in some way connected
- 4:58with the teaching of the Book of Romans.
- 5:01Interesting.
- 5:03I had a couple things highlighted from the introduction I wanted to ask you about.
- 5:07And I'm just going to read, I'm quoting from the introduction to
- 5:10ready and unashamed for those of you that wanted to know what I'm talking about here.
- 5:16But Claude writes this,
- 5:18Jesus prayed for his disciples saying, sanctify them by your truth.
- 5:22Your word is truth, John 17, 17.
- 5:26A disciple of Jesus Christ is one who is sanctified or set apart,
- 5:32uncommon, distinguishable, and what makes the disciple of Jesus distinctive is living
- 5:38by the truth of God that is found in his word.
- 5:41That implies we know the truth of God's word.
- 5:46So that's a very, to me, a very impactful paragraph right there.
- 5:51I just love for you to just share more about that.
- 5:55Well, there's no shortcuts in Christianity.
- 5:59One of the things I encourage, I always encourage people to do is get
- 6:02and establish a holy habit early in your walk with the Lord,
- 6:06a holy habit to read through the Bible on a regular basis.
- 6:10Either you can read it through in a year.
- 6:13If you read four chapters a day, you'll pretty much read through the entire Bible in a year.
- 6:17Two chapters would be two years, one chapter every four years,
- 6:21you'd go through the entire Bible.
- 6:24As Christians, we've been blessed with the Bible.
- 6:26It's such an incredible gift from the Lord to let it collect dust
- 6:31and to rely on feelings which are so fickle rather than the truth of God's word
- 6:37that sanctifies us, that sets us apart.
- 6:40That's really what sanctification is.
- 6:42It's not just being set apart and uncommon,
- 6:45but set apart unto God for his purposes.
- 6:50That's what we really need in our day and age, to know God's word, to live it out.
- 6:56Yes, and one of the things you emphasize from Romans 1, Romans 1, 16,
- 7:01being unashamed of the gospel.
- 7:05We've got believers in churches in America.
- 7:07We are so comfortable here, Claude,
- 7:10that don't let people outside of church walls know they're a believer.
- 7:15Or if people were to judge them by their fruit, they might not know
- 7:19that they're a believer in Christ and let alone they're not sharing the good news
- 7:25or the warnings of eternal, the coming judgment and the good news of eternal life in Christ.
- 7:30So share that importance that obviously you bring out in the beginning of,
- 7:35of ready and unashamed because it's right in Romans 1 and you emphasize the gospel,
- 7:40the gospel, the gospel.
- 7:42Well, David, you know, a few years ago we went through a period of time where everybody was
- 7:46on lockdown and we had the pandemic or the pandemic or whatever you'd like to call it of COVID
- 7:53and all these things and there are many people who were sick and we're all this stuff and many people
- 7:58became very fearful and there's kind of like our society was shocked into fearfulness and
- 8:06trepidation and a verse that we that was echoed in many pulpits was 2nd Timothy chapter 1 verse 7
- 8:13where it says God has not given us a spirit of fear but a power of love and a sound mind and
- 8:21you know we need to be fearful what are we so timid about why are we so timid why are we so
- 8:26concerned with offending people with the gospel you know the whole point of the God Paul said the
- 8:33gospel is offensive so I think we need to get we need to get used to that and you know our
- 8:40concern should not be so much about offending people it should be more about offending God by
- 8:46putting the lid on his gospel you know and not fulfilling his great commission and you know we
- 8:52need to be ready and we need to be on a shame can we take a brief I mean your book is about this
- 8:59but I want to talk about the Romans road to salvation and because we're going to talk more about what's
- 9:06actually in your book and some of the points you make about Romans chapters 1 through 8 that's in
- 9:10volume 1 which is what we're talking about today by cloud staffer ready and unashamed but if
- 9:17you guys one of the simplest things you can do is go over to gotquestions.org and pull up the
- 9:21Romans road to salvation and it's a way of explaining the good news the gospel through the book of
- 9:27Romans using these key verses and cloud let's start with Romans 3 23 which we're just doing this
- 9:34to equip friends who may not know exactly how to walk through this it says for all have sinned
- 9:40and come short of the glory of God and we've all sinned that's that's a very simple and basic truth
- 9:47that we need to know every person has every person needs forgiveness of sins and Romans 3 then
- 9:53gives a detail to picture of what sin looks like in our lives so your thoughts and then we'll jump
- 9:58to a couple of other verses here yeah really from chapter 1 verse 18 through chapter 3 verse 18
- 10:05the Apostle Paul really first he looks at the Gentile world and how they fall in short and now
- 10:10God's wrath is on those who've rejected him he's given him over to reprobate minds and we see the
- 10:17consequence of that at the end of chapter 1 in chapter 2 he says even those that are that are
- 10:23religious that try to keep a try try to keep the law how they don't keep it adequately and that
- 10:30you can you know you can never work your way to heaven because your work God's standard is 100%
- 10:37perfection that's right and no no one does that right no one no one achieves that and so even the
- 10:42religious the religious Jews but also religious people who try to try to make themselves righteous by
- 10:47what they do you know doing good deeds it's inadequate and so and then in to be first 18 verses of
- 10:53chapter 3 it's the Apostle Paul tells us that you know there is none righteous no not one all
- 11:00through all short of the glory of God just you know no matter who you are you know it's it's not
- 11:06it's not that sinners are necessarily um um totally bad right that's not that that's not really
- 11:15the sense of this the the issue is no one is good enough right so even if you're a good person
- 11:22there's a lot of good people that don't know Jesus a lot the atheists that do kindness kind thing
- 11:28good things right but it's not it's it's not doesn't meet God's standard no in John chapter 16
- 11:36verses 8 through 11 the Apostle Jesus said that when the Holy Spirit comes he will convict the
- 11:42world of sin righteousness and judgment of sin Jesus said because they don't believe in me
- 11:49leaving in Jesus that's the bottom line of righteousness because I go to my father and what he
- 11:54was saying you're implying there is that the right the righteous standard is me sinless me right and
- 12:00then of judgment because the God of this world has been judged right Satan is judged and those
- 12:05who who refuse to trust Jesus as Savior there in that camp there under judgment along along with
- 12:12the devil so you know it's not a good place to be without Jesus that's right and I go back to
- 12:21Romans 3 23 when you said that all all means all all mean to all is no respect of persons anyone can
- 12:29be saved it says whoever will believe um and I think you know I'm getting ahead of myself but I think
- 12:35that's one of the verses in Romans 10 13 for whoever calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved
- 12:40but let's go back to Romans 6 23 which says for the wages of sin is death and the punishment that we
- 12:48have earned for our sin is death not just physical but eternal and that's the first part of the
- 12:54verse Romans 6 23 the second part is but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our
- 13:02Lord so it's almost like a bad news good news there in that verse Roman 6 23 right cloud
- 13:09well absolutely you really wouldn't you really can't understand the goodness of the good news
- 13:16until you first understand the badness of the bad news and and the bad news is no matter how hard
- 13:22you try you can't you can't jump high enough you can't you can't you can't be righteous enough
- 13:28there's always you know there's always a always a limitation in your capabilities you're not
- 13:34going to get into heaven in your own strength but the good news is that God loved us so much that
- 13:41he sent his son Jesus to die for us to pay our debt of sin right bull road to the Corinthians in
- 13:47a second letter he made him who knew no sin to be sin for us that we might become the righteousness
- 13:55of God in him it's it's you know God's grace his salvation his plan of redemption how he's redeemed
- 14:02those who were who were you know headed for hell and it's just a magnificent good news in the
- 14:08God's gospel amen we're talking with pastor cloud stopper and the book is called ready and unashamed
- 14:15pastor's practical inductive study of Romans of course I want to take a quick break but
- 14:22Romans 10 9 we got to squeeze this in before the break if you confess with your mouth Jesus as
- 14:28Lord and believe in your heart God raised him from the dead you will be saved faith belief not by
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- 15:32with pastor cloud stopper today calvary chapel of hope he's a new yorka and the book is called ready
- 15:38and unashamed i'm just going to well you know what um yeah i want to quote one more verse from
- 15:44the romans road to salvation and again you guys look this up the basic bullet points of these
- 15:49scriptures from romans are at gotquestions.org just type in romans road and romans five one has
- 15:57this wonderful message therefore since we have been justified through faith we have peace with
- 16:06God through our Lord Jesus Christ that's huge who knew that you could have peace with God so
- 16:17that's another very important point uh back to the book cloud i just want to read this and get your
- 16:22response i'm quoting you again uh we live in a world where Christianity is being challenged on
- 16:27every front Islam cults a worldly philosophy of tolerance at the expense of truth religion apostate
- 16:37Christianity personal opinion mongers and a host of other entities are bringing an assault on
- 16:43God's revealed biblical Christianity this is happening and as biblical Christians we've got a lot
- 16:51to you know fight against a lot to resist um take us you know share a little bit more about that
- 16:57and how believers we better be equipped in this day and age and then we have a responsibility
- 17:02while we're here right right you know in uh years ago they used to there was a kind of a humorous
- 17:11reference to certain Christians as christian couch potatoes and um i think that uh i think that's
- 17:19that's that's that's grown that's grown unfortunately and you know uh in in the book of revelation
- 17:27chapter 2 and 3 Jesus writes seven letters the seven churches and those seven churches are also
- 17:33representative of seven epochs in history and the last church he writes to is the church of Leo
- 17:39Decia one of the things he says there is he says because you're neither cold nor hot i'll spew you
- 17:45out of my mouth you know and and christian luke warmness literally turns the stomach of Jesus
- 17:51and uh you know if you're if you're one of those couch potato Christians if you're one of those
- 17:57people that can take evangelism or leave it or you know have no desire or passion to serve the
- 18:03Lord and be known that you are of the Lord i just encourage you the the way that you can stoke
- 18:09the fire the way that you can uh rekindle that passion for the Lord so just get back into his word
- 18:16and i think the book of romans is probably uh the best place to start well obviously uh you wrote
- 18:23a book a study a two volume set on romans so this is part of your heart we can tell uh pastor
- 18:31cloud um so we don't have a lot of time unfortunately and there's so much in this book um but
- 18:39let's talk about romans eight unless you wanted to touch on some other points before we get there
- 18:44because romans eight the spirit filled life and as you mentioned earlier i think you know some
- 18:49have said romans eight is the pinnacle of scripture that is an amazing chapter in god's word so unless
- 18:59you wanted to share with us any other points um i'm the gospel and on the romans chapters before
- 19:06that but go ahead and let's talk about the spirit filled life cloud i will never pass up an
- 19:12opportunity to speak about romans eight in this and this spirit filled life you i mean you could
- 19:17you could very easily write a book uh on that chapter alone and uh when i taught through and i
- 19:25actually big just recently started again to teach through the book of romans but normally when
- 19:30i get to chapter eight my people know we're gonna camp out here for a while because uh that's
- 19:36incredible but really in in romans chapter eight it's it's it's the pinnacle because it's it speaks
- 19:42to us about what the christian's spiritual life should be like right and i i've broken it down
- 19:50into um into twelve uh statements or attitudes first one is i'm no longer condemned by god right the
- 19:58first verse says there is therefore now no condemnation those who are in christ jesus and the
- 20:05in christ jesus is a kind of a grammatical thing from Paul that expresses being in a saving
- 20:13relationship with jesus you know that sense that i i am not condemned you know a lot of christians
- 20:19walk around with with a weight on their shoulders yeah because maybe they're living trying to live
- 20:26the new way of a life in christ with the old religious mindset and we are there is no condemnation
- 20:35for us in in christ jesus that's just that we're we're free and then um you know i listen to rely on
- 20:43and follow the spirit not my sinful nature right not me myself and i and um you know i we i like
- 20:50you say we don't have a lot of time but you know that that chapter is just so wonderful it speaks
- 20:56about how the holy spirit helps us in our weakness it speaks to us about the suffering that we
- 21:03experience here and now doesn't even compare to what we will experience when we're when we're with
- 21:08the lord uh it speaks about the necessity uh it says if you don't have the spirit you do not belong to
- 21:15the lord you know so it's another way of Paul that Paul says you must be born again you know you
- 21:22must we must be born again you must be filled with the holy spirit uh Paul says there's nothing
- 21:28that can separate you from the love of the lord right it says it says it says that um if god
- 21:36did not spare his own son for us how will he not with him freely give us all things i mean it's just
- 21:42a magnificent magnificent uh chapter that uh you know it's just it's just you could you should
- 21:49camp out in there if you want again if you want to rekindle that ash and fire for the lord
- 21:55don't only go to romans you could even start in romans chapter eight you know and uh i think the
- 22:01church is missing that today they're they're off on and all kinds of trivialities all kinds of
- 22:07silly types of stuff you know even those even those conservative Christians who are so
- 22:13involved in politics now look i'm i'm very political in many ways but i don't want to ever let
- 22:19politics divert my attention from the spirit filled life and from Jesus you know so that i'm not
- 22:26walking in the spirit any longer you know so it's so very very important to be a romans eight
- 22:33Christian it's a tough balance sometimes because we are in this world and we do want to make a
- 22:38difference in some people i i see the extremes on both sides and then i see the apathy and those
- 22:44who don't want to get involved because oh that's political christian shouldn't be involved so
- 22:48let's just try to find a good balance but you've mentioned the the middle of romans eight
- 22:53i love the fact that creation is eagerly waiting for the glory of god creation is waiting not just
- 22:59human beings all of creation groans doesn't it say that yeah and you know uh you know our green
- 23:07our green people our green party people and people that are a cal a calagically oriented
- 23:13and all that stuff they need to understand it as beautiful as this world can be at times it's
- 23:18still a fallen world and it's not going to be perfected until the kingdom of of Jesus Christ
- 23:24is established on the earth and really the new heavens and the new earth are are established by the
- 23:30lord and we're there um it's good to take care we're good we need to be good stewards of our
- 23:34environment but um but we need to understand that this this creation is groaning and we're part
- 23:41of that creation a sense that a sense of our material bodies you know we have these pains and these
- 23:46sufferings uh you know both physically mentally uh that that are just you know they weigh on us at times
- 23:53but uh it's so important and you know that to to rely on the spirit for that as well when we're going
- 24:01through difficulties and trials right and and that god is able to cause all things all things to
- 24:07work together for good those who love him and are called according to his purpose even the
- 24:13persecutions even the even the the you know the the difficulties the hardships the ailments the
- 24:20disappointments all of those things if when we turn to the Lord just in love and trust him he's
- 24:26able to bring good from it right and Romans 12 it says you know they meant it for evil but god will
- 24:32use it for good you know Joseph said the same thing in Genesis 50 verse 20 speaking of his brothers
- 24:38you know and that's and that's a wonderful hope that we have that god is able to take whatever
- 24:43are the ingredients are in our life and and and and cook something up that's uh that's glorifying to
- 24:50him you know amen beauty for ashes um yes uh who or what can separate us from love god if god is
- 24:59for us who can be against us i just want to end and there's so much more we could have talked about
- 25:03but um Romans 8 38 for i am convinced that neither life nor death nor angels nor principalities
- 25:12nor things present nor things to come nor powers nor height nor death nor any other created thing
- 25:19will be able to separate us from the love of god that is in Christ Jesus our Lord that's the end
- 25:26of Romans 8 this the end of volume one in your book chapters one through eight cloud where can people
- 25:31get uh ready and unashamed uh amazon i know it's there but where else now i think get it on amazon
- 25:38they can get it uh if you can you can contact our church at calvary chapel of hope dot org uh you can uh
- 25:46you know that those are the basic places where you can get the uh where you can get the book great
- 25:51and i want to mention your blog page shepherd of hope dot org shepherd of hope dot org i'm just
- 25:57looking at some of the topics you've written on um you what does the bible say about narcissism
- 26:02making holy communion holy again you've got a chapter or or you've got a blog ready and unashamed
- 26:08and also the most recent one uh one recent one am i a debtor and so many more so i care to share
- 26:14a little bit about your blog and then we'll wrap it up sure i write a new uh teaching there each
- 26:21week uh oftentimes it's it's based on the message that i i taught or preached the uh previous
- 26:28sunday but uh i you know it's again it's just more uh more edifying i put it there uh if you want to
- 26:35use it you know if you're a pastor and you know you you have one of those vapor locks and you can't
- 26:40figure out uh what to teach this sunday or you know feel free to go there and and uh and use the
- 26:46material you know and i hope it i hope it's encouraging i really like to encourage people and
- 26:51exhort them to action but also to encourage them because you know the enemy he wants to beat us
- 26:57down he wants to uh discourage gods people he wants us to think that the that are that are
- 27:03adversary in our enemies so so at numbers us that we don't have a chance and you know it's interesting
- 27:09when you look at scripture god particularly uh organises and works his will through those who are
- 27:18in the minority through the weakest through the least you know and and so and if we if we're praying
- 27:25for revival when does a revival happen a revival happens when there's darkness right if you look
- 27:32historically at our country uh if you look in the early 17 mid to early uh 1700s uh the the colonies
- 27:40were replete with the private to use horrible ladies couldn't walk into the street the jails were
- 27:45filled the bars were filled i mean it was just a terrible terrible situation until there was
- 27:50that first grade awakening and um and well you know that first grade awakening many some historic
- 27:58some historians say that our nation is actually birthed out of that first grade awakening so that's
- 28:04we need me we just we need a we need another great awakening yeah we do cloud we've got to wrap it up
- 28:09cloud stopher calvary chapel of hope his website shepherdofhope.org that's his blog page
- 28:14good to see you and have you on again brother uh take care we'll talk to you hopefully soon thank you
- 28:19god bless all right friends thanks again and god bless you and as always keep speaking the truth
- 28:24about things that matter