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CERTAIN THINGS IN COMMON: New Congressional Report on Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein, and Paolo Zampolli. Plus special guest Victoria Drake. · L3G4L

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Just days away from the midterms where it looks
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like there's going to be a huge shakeup in the
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power structure of the U.S. Congress. And the
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Democrats just dropped a new report about Donald
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Trump's and Jeffrey Epstein's shared victims.
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This is L3G4L Special Investigation with Ed Lyman
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in Los Angeles. This program is intended for
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mature audiences only. It contains sensitive
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subject matter and adult language. While your
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host is a licensed attorney, the information
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provided is for educational and entertainment
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purposes only and does not constitute legal advice,
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a legal opinion, or create an attorney-client
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relationship. On this episode, we've got a special
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guest coming up in a little bit, Victoria Drake,
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who alleges she was raped by Paolo Zampolli. And
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I'm going to be sharing with you my original
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analysis of the brand new report that just came
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out from staffers, Democratic staffers, at the House
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Judiciary Committee. If you go over the... At
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first sight, it doesn't seem like it reveals
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all that much, but once you dig into the details,
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I was pretty surprised by some of the new things
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I learned, and I'm going to share them with you.
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For example, remember that big novelty check
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that Donald Trump wrote to Jeffrey Epstein back
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in the day at Mar-a-Lago? A $22,500 check.
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There are several people standing behind it, including
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a girl whose face is redacted. That one's been
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bugging me for a long time. Who the heck is she?
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The report indirectly tells us who it is, and
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I've got it solved. I'll let you know. The report
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also talks about somebody named Kate and her
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relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell and Donald
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Trump. And Kate's just a pseudonym, by the way.
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The report indirectly, perhaps unintentionally,
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reveals, maybe intentionally, reveals that Kate
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is Anouska De Georgiou. If you're not familiar
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with who Anouska is, she's one of the more prominent
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survivors. She's an activist, and she's amazing,
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but you never hear her publicly talking about
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any type of interactions she had with Donald
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Trump. What the report reveals about her is pretty
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big, and you probably haven't heard this stuff
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about her yet. The report also reveals a victim
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that we've never heard of before: Miss Switzerland,
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former Miss Switzerland, who alleges that she
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was raped by Donald Trump when she was only 20
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years old during one of the pageants he was running.
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The report also talks about Todd Blanche. And
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remember when he went to go visit Ghislaine Maxwell
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in federal prison back in the summer of 2025?
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During that interview, Todd Blanche coaches Ghislaine
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Maxwell not to talk about a victim named Jane,
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who was only 14 years old when she was trafficked
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within the ring. Why was Todd Blanche trying
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to prevent Ghislaine Maxwell from talking about
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Jane? On this episode, we're going to cover all
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of that and more. Stay tuned. So this report
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was prepared by staffers, Democratic staffers, at
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the House Judiciary Committee of the U.S. Congress.
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The timing is wild, though. We're about a week
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away from one of the most significant midterm
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elections in the United States ever. If Democrats
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are successful in these elections, the entire
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power structure of the United States Congress,
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both the House and the Senate, will shift away
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from Republican control, the Republican majority,
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to a Democratic majority, which is huge given that
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all three branches are currently controlled
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by Republicans. Of course, Donald Trump heading
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up the executive branch, and of the nine U.S.
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Supreme Court justices, six of them were appointed
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by Republican presidents and the other three
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were appointed by Democratic presidents. In terms
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of Congress, the Senate, which has 100
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seats, 53 of those seats are currently held by
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Republicans, 45 held by Democrats, and two of
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them are independents. The House of Representatives
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currently has 218 Republicans to 214 Democrats,
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one independent, and there are two vacancies. Speculation
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websites like Kalshi are predicting a 90% chance
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that the Democrats will win the House. In the
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Senate, Democrats have about a 68% chance of
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carrying the day there as well, according to
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prediction markets. What are these prediction
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markets, like Polymarket and Kalshi, good
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for? I don't know. I feel like I lost a lot of
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money during the World Cup. I don't want to gamble
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on politics. Is it better to follow the prediction
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markets and these gambling websites or traditional
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polls? Probably both are equally bad. All I know
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is the candidates I usually vote for haven't
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been winning. So why would I bet on them?
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Why would I bet on them? Why would I bet on them?
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I'm going to lose all my money on some Polymarket
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or prediction app, and then gas prices are also
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going to skyrocket. Fucked either way. So with
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that context, the Democrats released this pretty
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damning, lengthy report about Donald Trump sharing
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certain sex trafficking victims with Jeffrey
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Epstein. I don't think it's going to convince
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MAGA to defect from the party at this point.
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Maybe it helps drive some more turnout for people
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who are already going to vote blue, just to reinforce:
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you've got to get out there and vote. Donald Trump
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is not a good person. But the thing is, we've
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known this. We've known this about Donald Trump
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since before 2015. In 2016, Katie Johnson was
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filing her federal lawsuit here in Los Angeles.
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And the liberal media ignored most of this. You couldn't
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get feminists like Rachel Maddow on MSNBC to
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really cover anything to do with Jeffrey Epstein.
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I mean, to think that these massive political
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commentators on Fox or MSNBC, NBC, all the major
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networks just didn't know a damn thing about
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Jeffrey Epstein all the way up until about 2018.
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Come on. Are some people still in the dark about
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all of this? I don't get it. Maybe Democrats
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are targeting the swing voters, you know, the
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ones we used to call soccer moms, suburban women,
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different independents, maybe they'll want to
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go through the report and be motivated by it
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as to why they should not vote for Donald Trump
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or any other Republicans for that matter. I mean,
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it is a big deal that Republicans in the Congress
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continue to conceal all this stuff for Donald
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Trump. Virtually no Republicans in Congress have
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been standing up against Donald Trump on these
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issues relating to Epstein, except for Marjorie
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Taylor Greene and Thomas Massie and Lauren Boebert
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and Nancy Mace. And we all know what happened
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to Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massie,
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whether it's over the Epstein files or Israel,
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or maybe those two subjects pretty much overlap,
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don't they? So, the Democrats' report is titled
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"We Have Certain Things in Common, Jeffrey." And
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it's got an image of Donald Trump and Jeffrey
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Epstein together with the background removed and
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a fuchsia color. They have red lines over
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their eyes, so you can't see them. And
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then there are a lot of redaction marks on the
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cover. It's pretty trendy, kind of a glitch,
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vaporwave feel. I mean, the front page kind of
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looks like a meme. And whether that cuts down
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on the credibility or not, I don't know. In some
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of the beholder's eyes out there, maybe it does.
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Democrats have been painfully trolling Donald
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Trump back, with a lot of misfires. But Obama got
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Donald Trump pretty good this week. He's got
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the White House looking like Saddam Hussein opened
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a Cheesecake factory. There's just gold everywhere.
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And Donald Trump, obviously, he didn't like that.
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Here's what Trump had to say in a pretty weak
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attempt at a comeback: "The White House is a symbol
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of America. For you to say it's a Cheesecake
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factory, that just shows why you were a lousy
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president." And he's been glitching out a lot
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too, right? What's going on with him? And somebody
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on one of the live shows this past week was telling
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me Trump's been wearing an exoskeleton suit.
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I didn't know that. And I started looking it
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up and I'm like, this is legit. This is real.
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I don't know how I missed that story. That's
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been going around for quite some time now. You
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know, he's got those, you know what I'm talking
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about, right? Those robotic devices that strap
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around your waist and then go down to your legs and
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help you actually walk. Kind of like an Iron
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Man suit. And I started looking into that deeper
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and it makes sense. I mean, if you look at the
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shape of Donald Trump's back end, I always thought
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it was just like a strange diaper, maybe a chemo
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pump or something there underneath his suit.
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But if you look up other people that wear exoskeleton
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suits, it matches. It's spot on. I mean,
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you can't deny it. And what's the point of having
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an exoskeleton suit in the first place? I guess
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they help stroke victims a lot, and people with
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other things such as MS. But in Donald Trump's
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case, I think we're leaning towards the stroke
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category, especially with his speech patterns.
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I'd say 90% of the reason I took the governor.
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Impersonalization, the schemes that they use
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for impersonalization. He might not be able to
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read the Bible as much. Not only did he. State
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that. God is transgender. This is what he said.
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Things are definitely falling apart for Camp
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MAGA. So I don't know if the Democrats' report
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is even going to matter. I think MAGA's
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already imploded, in my opinion. MAGA's already
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had a lot of people defect. So what's in this
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report? Let's talk about it. The report's broken
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into three sections, and then it provides
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conclusions or findings on what should be done. The
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first section provides a backdrop of sexual exploitation
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in what Democrats call Gotham City. In fact,
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the Gotham City of Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein,
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and Paolo Zampolli. If you're new to the Epstein
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files and don't have a whole lot of background
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information about these characters and how they
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interact with different modeling agencies across
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the world, then I highly recommend going over
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that section just to bring yourself up to speed
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a little bit. It's a good primer. Then the next
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section of the report goes over the accounts
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of 11 different women who Democrats say link
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Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. And surely
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that's not an exhaustive number. I don't think
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that's what they're intending at all. Then the
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third section of the report deals with how Donald
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Trump and his Department of Justice, Pam Bondi,
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Todd Blanche, and others have covered everything
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up that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein had
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been doing together. You got to remember, it
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was November 2025 when Congress unanimously,
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both parties, voted for the Epstein Files Transparency
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Act. And I'm telling you, I did an article a
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while ago explaining how, in my estimates, I've
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quantified this, there was at least... there's
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at least more than 400 terabytes of files relating
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to Jeffrey Epstein in the possession of the FBI
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in 2019. And to date, the U.S. Department of
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Justice has released about 0.075% of that amount
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of files, roughly 300 gigabytes. 300 gigabytes
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is less than 1% of 400 terabytes. But who's
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counting? Not Todd Blanche. I mean, definitely
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not. And then you've got Congress, you've got
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Democrats out there fighting over these redactions
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on less than 1% of the files, basically. Where are
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the rest of the files? Come on, guys. That's
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what I want to know. It seems that Democratic
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officials and others are hyper-focused on,
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here we've got some files, and of those that are
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redacted, whose names have been redacted? I want
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to know the bigger fruit on the tree, such as
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who was blackmailing, who specifically, who are
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Jeffrey Epstein's enablers. Where's all the surveillance
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footage? What happened to all the surveillance
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equipment on the island, for example? Why did
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the FBI arrest Jeffrey Epstein and then wait
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a month and a half to raid the island or never
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go to Avenue Foch or the Zorro Ranch? Who made
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those decisions? But the Democrats are focused
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on energizing certain demographics of certain
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women so that they can carry these swing states.
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And that's fine; that's strategic. But I still
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think it's important that we remember: we really
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need to get to the bottom of who is being blackmailed
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and what type of leverage was gained. What did
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Jeffrey Epstein and his crew get
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out of it? How was foreign policy shaped? What
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proxy wars were started because of honeypots?
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What kind of technology or computer networks
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were compromised because of Jeffrey Epstein ensnaring
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people. For example, Microsoft, how secure are
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their servers? I didn't hear anybody in Congress
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asking Bill Gates about stuff like that. Again,
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the focus was on Bill Gates obtaining STI medication
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through Jeffrey Epstein. I think we should more
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immediately be looking at which intelligence
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agencies and law enforcement officials may have
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been compromised? Or people like Bill Gates,
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how was he compromised? Any national security
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concerns at all? Perhaps other nations that we
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should be concerned about? Is there any compromise
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that's still ongoing? I mean, shouldn't we be
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looking a lot at the lawyers and potentially
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judges, different politicians, foreign officials
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and intelligence officers that are still out
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there who have probably been compromised by
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Epstein and his enterprise, which still seems
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to remain intact in many ways? But here we have
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a report on sex crimes that occurred a couple
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decades ago. And I'm not trying to minimize that.
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I'm not trying to take away anything from the
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very serious nature of this caliber of sex crime.
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So in terms of the report, if you just look it
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over briefly and you already know a lot
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about Epstein and Donald Trump, you're probably
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not going to find anything particularly groundbreaking
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here. But by reading the footnotes and going
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into some of the smaller details, I was able
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to extrapolate a lot of interesting things that
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I had never known before. But it takes a little
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bit of work. It takes some deductive reasoning
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to get there. But I'm going to explain all that
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to you. Don't worry about it. But first, I've
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got a very special guest, dear friend of the
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show, Victoria Drake. She's in the report and
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she's here to talk about it. The report says
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that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein worked
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with other predators as well, including John
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Casablancas and Paolo Zampolli. Paolo Zampolli
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obviously takes the credit for bringing Melania
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Trump to the United States as a model. He's originally
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from Italy, from a very, very wealthy family.
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Eventually, he made his way into working for
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Metropolitan Models. Now, that was the agency
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that had discovered Claudia Schiffer long before
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he ever worked there or had anything to do with
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them. But once he worked there, he did make his
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way up through the ranks and eventually became
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a co-owner. Apparently, while he was working
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in Ibiza at some point, setting up a show, that's
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when he met John Casablancas, who recognized,
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hey, this guy Paolo's got some talent. Or at least
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that's what Paolo Zampolli wants us to believe
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on his Wikipedia page. John Casablancas suggested
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that Paolo Zampolli should move to the United
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States, New York. Real romantic history there.
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Paolo comes to America and continues working
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for the modeling agency, but eventually goes
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on to create his own agency named ID Model Management.
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He discovers Melania, brings her from overseas.
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I'll talk a little bit more about that time period
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in a little bit. Zampolli went on to work for
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the Trump Organization doing some type of real
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estate. Then when Trump was elected the first
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time, that first term, Trump appointed Zampolli
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to the Board of Trustees for the John F. Kennedy
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Center. During the Biden presidency, Biden left
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him on the board. More recently, when Trump was
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reelected, he appointed Zampolli as the United
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States Special Representative for Global Partnerships.
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Whatever that means, I'm still trying to figure
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that out. Right now, we've got a very special
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guest, friend of the show, Victoria Drake.
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She spent a lot of time at Mar-a-Lago. She
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was in the whole orbit of people like Donald
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Trump, Melania, Paolo Zampolli. She just filed
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a federal lawsuit in September 2026. Drake alleges
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Paolo Zampolli raped her in October of 2023. What's
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relevant here is the Judiciary Committee, the
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Democratic staff report, mentions her, not by name,
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but they mention her allegations about Paolo
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Zampolli. The report explains that Zampolli was
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recently fired from the Trump administration
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and that, quote, he was also recently credibly
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accused of sexual assault by a young Republican
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model who claims Zampolli drugged and raped her
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in 2023. Her complaint explains that from, quote,
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his earlier career in the modeling industry to
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his current role as a U.S. special envoy, Zampolli
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has leveraged his access to young models to cultivate
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and maintain relationships within high-profile
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networks. The report further explains that Victoria
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Drake's complaint notes that Zampolli is, quote,
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a fixture within President Trump's social and
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political circle. This is L3G4L.com. I'm Ed
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Lyman, and we've got Victoria Drake. Victoria, thanks
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for being here. Question for you first. Did anybody
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in Congress, any Democrats, reach out to you before
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they released this report? Did they even ask
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you about what happened? No, it was complete
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news to me seeing my name there. Obviously, they
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just said I was the young Republican model or
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whatever, but seeing the report and the complaint,
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it was... it was pretty crazy to me. I read the
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report, obviously, because I knew Amanda was
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in it and I knew Beatrice was in it. But seeing
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myself in there was complete news to me. It actually
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gives me chills just thinking about it. I didn't
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even know I was going to be in Time magazine.
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I didn't know I was going to be in the New York
19:06
Times. I didn't know any of this. Nobody tells
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me anything these days. They just, like, publish,
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publish, publish, and it's crazy. They didn't even
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bother to reach out to you, to talk to you,
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to see if this is something you're okay with.
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It's so obvious that they're exploiting this
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for the midterms to try to gain more seats in
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Congress, to get more voters. Victoria, what
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are your overall thoughts about the report? I
19:31
think that the report was pretty poorly written,
19:35
unfortunately. It seems very inconsistent. I
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mean, I do appreciate them getting the report
19:41
out there. I think it's very important, but I
19:44
think that they could have done a much better
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job. I agree with you. The report is pretty basic,
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and it's a lot of context that we already know.
19:52
Seems like there's no smoking gun. I wish that
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they included more details. Yeah, that's right.
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The only thing new about it is the account
20:02
of Beatrice Keul, who alleges Donald Trump
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raped her in the '90s during one of his pageants.
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Specifically, and this is not just for selfish
20:10
reasons, I wish they would have included more
20:12
details regarding Paolo and his abuse. Because
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there are 10-plus girls who have come forward
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regarding Paolo. And they basically just mention
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me. They don't even mention my name. They say
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the young Republican model. They don't even want
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to mention your name, but they want to mention
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your political party affiliation or at least
20:34
brand you as a Republican, as if maybe that gives
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their story some more credibility to potential
20:39
readers who might be Republican. I don't know
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what the point is. You mentioned you had spoken
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with Amanda Ungaro, Paolo Zampolli's ex-girlfriend.
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They have a child together. While serving in
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the Trump administration, he had her detained
20:52
by ICE, and eventually she had to leave the
20:55
country. But with regard to Amanda, they don't
20:57
even give, like, the full story either. And there's
21:01
just so much more that they could have included
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and there really isn't much that directly implicates
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Donald Trump. Yeah, and of the new stuff, they
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only did a short summation of Beatrice Keul's
21:12
story. She alleges she was raped by Donald Trump
21:15
at the Plaza Hotel back in the '90s during one
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of his beauty pageants. I talked to Beatrice
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quite a bit, and there are things that she can
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say and things that she can't say, obviously.
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But at the end of the day, I really wish that
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they would have just gone scorched earth. It
21:31
almost seems lighthearted. Like, we're talking
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about rapists and criminals and pedophiles in
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the government. It could have been done a lot
21:43
better. And that's just my opinion. Well, thank
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you so much, Victoria, for being here. I know
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you're pressed for time. Always appreciate talking
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to you. She's so brave and totally inspiring.
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Imagine being a plaintiff against the most powerful
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and corrupt administration in U.S. history.
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The good news is they fired Paolo Zampolli right
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after she filed her lawsuit. If anything good comes
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out of this report, it's that you do have
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Democratic officials in our Congress who have found
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Victoria Drake's allegations against Paolo Zampolli
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to be credible. You're listening to L3G4L with
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Ed Lyman. So coming back now, I want to talk
22:19
to you about the things in this new report that
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I think are new, at least things that you probably
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don't already know about. This is what I found,
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and there's probably so much more that you could
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find in this report. I haven't looked in the
22:34
universe yet to see what other people have pulled
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out of this report. But I'm sure there's so much
22:38
more than just what I found. But these are the
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interesting things that I've found so far. So
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who's the girl that Donald Trump paid Jeffrey
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Epstein $22,500 for with that big-ass check?
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It looks like a Publishers Clearing House contest
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winner. Jeffrey Epstein, two guys and a girl
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holding up this big check, probably about four
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feet wide, huge check at Mar-a-Lago. And it's
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way back when. We get this photo from Jeffrey
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Epstein's 50th birthday book. You know, the book
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that Ghislaine Maxwell went around before he
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turned 50, obviously, and had a bunch of very
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prominent people, from Bill Clinton
23:22
to Alan Dershowitz, Leon Black, and then other
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people that are closer to Jeffrey Epstein, such
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as Selena Dubin or his childhood friends. So
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Ghislaine Maxwell rounded up all these people
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and told them to please send her a letter wishing
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Jeffrey Epstein a happy 50th birthday. Be funny,
23:43
send pictures, I'll put them all together and
23:46
compile them into this large coffee table style
23:49
book that we can give to him for his 50th
23:51
birthday. So one of Epstein's friends, Joel Pashcow,
23:55
he's a big real estate guy and a member of Mar-a-Lago.
23:59
So, he sends a letter for the birthday
24:02
book. And it includes a photo. The photo is of
24:09
Jeffrey Epstein, Joel Pashcow, I can't tell who
24:13
the third guy is, and a younger woman with blonde
24:20
hair. But her face is redacted. So we don't get
24:24
to see who she is. And they're holding up a pretty
24:28
large check, it's about four feet wide. The
24:31
check is payable to the order of Jeffrey Epstein
24:35
for $22,500, signed Donald Trump. Now, under
24:40
this photo on the letter, Joel Pashcow handwrites
24:45
to Jeffrey Epstein, "Jeffrey showing early talents
24:48
with money and women, sells fully depreciated,"
24:52
then it's redacted. So, that's presumably
24:56
the redacted girl's name, implying that Jeffrey
25:00
Epstein had just sold somebody to Donald
25:04
Trump for $22,500. Joel Pashcow further writes
25:09
that Jeffrey Epstein had shown early "people
25:12
skills," and, "Even though I handled the deal,
25:15
I didn't get any of the money or the girl." The
25:19
important part is the photo. When this photo
25:21
became public, I, and I'm sure so many other
25:24
people, searched meticulously to try to find
25:26
more details about it, to try to figure out who
25:29
exactly is this girl? Did Jeffrey Epstein really
25:34
get paid $22,500 for her? People speculate that
25:40
it was Melania. Perhaps it was Jeffrey Epstein
25:44
getting paid for Melania? And because this girl's
25:47
face is redacted, you only really see the length
25:51
of her shoulder down to her hand wrapped around the
25:55
side of the check. She's wearing a black dress,
25:57
but you don't see anything else, any other features.
26:00
It appears that she's possibly wearing a hat
26:03
and she has blonde hair. So, it could have been Melania
26:07
for all we know. But, you know, it's not abnormal
26:14
when you're doing this kind of digging that you're
26:16
looking very closely, zooming in close on the
26:19
hands. I was looking for any type of identifying
26:22
features such as a birthmark, but the resolution
26:25
of the photo is just not that great, so it's hard
26:28
to tell. Is that Melania's hand, for example?
26:31
Compare another photo of Melania's hands with
26:34
this one. And anything is possible, right? It's
26:37
difficult to date the photo because the check,
26:40
this big novelty check, doesn't have a line for
26:44
the date. Instinctively, the photo doesn't appear
26:50
to have been taken with a digital camera. It
26:52
seems to be shot with Kodachrome or Fuji, whatever.
26:56
But you could tell it does feel like that is
27:01
an old film camera. And I was gauging around
27:04
the '90s, partly because we could see Jeffrey
27:07
Epstein's face, but the style of sunglasses,
27:10
his hair, his jacket, and the other people holding
27:17
up the check, what Joel is wearing, and some
27:21
couple in the background. They're sitting at
27:23
a table, a banquet table, out on the grass. It's
27:27
a lawn area of Mar-a-Lago with palm trees in
27:30
the background. So when I was doing a lot of
27:33
research on this photo, because everybody wants
27:37
to know whether that was Melania or somebody
27:40
else, who is it? Was it a sex trafficking victim?
27:44
This is important, or at least it seems to be. And
27:50
the photo seems to be around the same time, possibly
27:54
the late '90s, when Donald Trump and Melania say
27:57
they met at the infamous Kit Kat Club during
28:03
Fall Fashion Week in 1998, New York City. And
28:07
of course, you probably already know that a lot
28:10
of people claim or at least speculate that Jeffrey
28:14
Epstein first dated Melania and then Epstein
28:18
introduced Melania to Donald Trump at a certain
28:20
point. But you got to be really careful treading
28:23
down that direction because Melania has sued
28:25
people for defamation over that very topic. And
28:30
I've never seen any direct evidence that Donald
28:33
Trump and Melania knew each other prior to the
28:37
fall of 1998 at the Kit Kat Club. Nobody's been
28:40
able to find that. Everybody's digging for that,
28:42
pushing really hard because they want to unsettle
28:45
that story. They say a lot of people don't believe
28:48
that's where they first met. So in my investigatory
28:51
quest for proof or truth, like many others, we
28:55
focused a lot on this photo of the check. So
28:58
during that research, when more Epstein files
29:02
came out, there was another photo of this check.
29:05
And it's the same check, but this time it's just
29:08
Jeffrey Epstein and seems to be the same girl
29:11
holding it up for the camera, potentially at
29:14
Mar-a-Lago as well. It's kind of hard to tell
29:17
based on the background, but possibly Mar-a-Lago
29:19
in the background. There's some palm trees.
29:21
In this photo, Jeffrey Epstein's wearing a different
29:23
shirt. He's wearing a sweater that says USA on
29:26
it. It kind of looks like he's wearing a gold
29:29
chain as well or something around his neck. It's
29:32
hard to tell what that is. Maybe it's one of
29:36
those neoprene type of Croakies cords that holds
29:39
your sunglasses. But the photo resolution, it's
29:43
pretty difficult to discern that type of detail
29:46
because of the contrast in the photo. And it's
29:49
a black and white copy. Whoever copied the image,
29:52
FBI, they didn't do a bang-up job. It's just
29:54
a black and white image of it. It's another criticism
29:57
I have for a lot of the photos you see that the
29:59
FBI took of Jeffrey Epstein's mansion in New
30:03
York or Little St. James. You'd think that the
30:05
agents that do that type of work would have some
30:09
better cameras, for one, but also some training
30:12
on how to compose a shot. So this seems to have
30:15
been an FBI agent or some type of law enforcement
30:18
officer taking a photo of this photo, which is
30:21
framed. And the frame says the phrase "once in
30:25
a blue moon," and it's repeated around the border
30:27
of the frame about seven times. But I looked
30:30
at the next piece of evidence in the sequence
30:32
of this, and it's the back of the frame. And
30:35
you can see the photo. You can see somebody took
30:38
a pencil to the back of the photo and wrote.
30:42
So therefore, I date this whole check, this whole
30:45
situation as having occurred in 1997. So whenever
30:49
it was, approximately a year before Donald Trump
30:52
and Melania say they met. But in the Democrats'
30:55
Judiciary report, you're not going to believe
30:57
who they say it is in the photo. They refer to
31:00
her as Jane Doe No. 5, by the way. But
31:03
I'm going to read to you from the report and
31:06
see if you can guess now who it is. It says,
31:09
Jane Doe 5, 20 years old. Public reports indicate
31:13
that in 1995 and 1997, Jane Doe 5, a Scandinavian
31:19
college student at NYU, was photographed with
31:22
Jeffrey Epstein at Mar-a-Lago, in one picture
31:25
kissing Jeffrey Epstein. The Epstein flight logs
31:28
show Jane Doe 5 and Epstein traveled on Epstein's
31:32
jet more than a dozen times during this period.
31:35
A number of those flights list only her and Epstein
31:39
as passengers. Following this relationship, Jane
31:42
Doe Five seemingly entered into a relationship
31:44
with Donald Trump. In 1998, she is pictured in
31:49
photos with Donald Trump and his family at Mar-a-Lago
31:52
and appears to have rented an apartment
31:54
in a Trump property. It was reported that Donald
31:58
Trump was, quote, dating Jane Doe 5 when he
32:02
met Melania Knauss,, then a model who was working
32:07
for Paolo Zampolli. While there's no evidence
32:10
available that Jane Doe 5 ever experienced misconduct
32:13
at either Epstein or Trump's hands, her relationship
32:17
with both men is significant. Epstein apparently
32:22
dated her while she was still at NYU, a school
32:26
attended by many of Epstein's survivors, and
32:29
Donald Trump dated her immediately thereafter.
32:33
So, do you know who that is yet? The report goes
32:37
on to state that the more sinister and telling detail
32:41
is that Jane Doe 5 is the woman identified in
32:45
Epstein's birthday book as the one that he sold
32:48
to Donald Trump. One page of the birthday book
32:52
depicts Epstein holding a check with the caption,
32:55
"Jeffrey showing early talents with money plus
32:58
women, sells fully depreciated" — and then they
33:03
put brackets, woman's redacted name — "to Donald
33:07
Trump for $22,500." Jane Doe 5's real name
33:12
lies under the redactions. People familiar with
33:15
Donald Trump's relationship stated that she became
33:17
a point of tension. People familiar with Donald
33:20
Trump's relationship stated that she, quote,
33:23
became a point of tension in Epstein and Trump's
33:26
friendship, end quote. And Epstein reportedly
33:29
complained, quote, that he believed the women
33:32
enjoyed spending time with him over Trump, and
33:36
that he was bitter when she ended up choosing
33:38
to go out with Trump. It's unclear why the check
33:42
was for $22,500. It's possible that the number
33:46
is a reference to Jane Doe 5's age when her relationship
33:49
with Epstein ended and her relationship with
33:51
Donald Trump began. The report also references
33:55
an email that Jeffrey Epstein sent in 2015 to
33:59
a New York Times reporter describing that Jane
34:03
Doe 5 was his 20-year-old girlfriend in 1993
34:07
and that after two years, he gave her to Donald.
34:10
And Epstein also gave the reporter her name to
34:14
pass on to another journalist so that the journalist
34:17
could discuss the shared relationship between
34:19
Epstein and Donald Trump with Jane Doe 5. Well,
34:23
if you still haven't figured it out yet, let's
34:25
just go back over some of those details real
34:27
quick just to clue you in. Jane Doe 5 is Scandinavian.
34:31
She went to NYU and she dated Jeffrey Epstein
34:36
for a couple of years, then started dating Donald
34:39
Trump, and she was with Donald Trump when Donald
34:43
Trump met Melania. Does that ring a bell, anyone?
34:47
That would be Celina Midelfart. Celina Midelfart
34:52
is a striking blonde Norwegian, and she came
34:58
over to the United States when she was younger.
35:00
She's from a wealthy family. They own a large
35:05
cosmetics company. Describing her as an heiress
35:09
is an inappropriate title for her. So as legend
35:14
has it, Celina Midelfart dates Jeffrey Epstein
35:19
for a while, then starts going out with Donald
35:22
Trump. And then in 1998, during Fall Fashion
35:26
Week, Donald Trump and Celina Midelfart go to
35:30
the Kit Kat Club together, and when they walk
35:33
upstairs to the VIP table section, Celina Midelfart
35:38
has to go to the bathroom, and Donald Trump moves
35:41
in on Melania at that point. And the rest is
35:45
history, if you believe that story. But that's
35:48
what Donald Trump and Melania say, and there's
35:51
no reason to not believe Donald Trump. What's
35:54
always interesting, of course, is that when Melania
35:56
first moved to the United States, she was brought
35:59
over here by Paolo Zampolli, working at Metropolitan
36:04
Models. That was around 1996 when Melania comes
36:08
to the United States and I guess she got an Einstein
36:10
visa. Somebody was reminding me of that the other
36:14
day, and it got me thinking, like, hey, Melania's,
36:17
what is her... what does her application look like
36:20
for the visa? Talk about Ilhan Omar. I don't
36:25
know if you've been following that story, but
36:27
the FBI raided the home of U.S. Congresswoman
36:32
Ilhan Omar. She's a representative from Minnesota,
36:35
but the FBI just raided her home. Apparently,
36:39
Donald Trump and his Department of Justice are
36:42
trying to figure out whether Omar may have been
36:45
less than truthful on her application to become
36:49
a citizen when she was 17 years old. I think
36:52
it was her father that actually applied for the
36:55
citizenship. But if you think about it, if Melania
36:57
had an Einstein visa, what qualified her to
37:01
have an Einstein visa? That's an EB-1 visa, and
37:05
it's designated specifically for individuals
37:08
who have an extraordinary ability in the sciences,
37:12
arts, education, business, or for example, athletes.
37:16
What were Melania's qualifications? Oh, I'd love
37:19
to see that application. She was here in the
37:21
country working since 1996 and then applied for
37:24
that in the year 2000 for the Einstein visa.
37:29
Apparently her application included all of her
37:31
modeling work. So she's featured in runway shows
37:35
in Europe, I don't know, or that weird French
37:38
magazine that looks like softcore, well, whatever.
37:41
And she was on a billboard on the side of a building
37:45
in New York City for a cigarette brand. I'm seeing
37:48
she's in the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue. Was
37:51
she? Okay, I see. It looks like kind of an amateur
37:53
photo was submitted of her hugging a big blow-up
37:57
whale on the side of the beach. Certainly
38:00
they wouldn't have given her the Einstein visa
38:02
if she submitted those photos from the GQ spread.
38:06
You know, the British GQ magazine that is not
38:08
the regular United States version. She's on board
38:12
Donald Trump's 727. She's wearing that strange
38:16
futuristic costume. Some of the shots, she's
38:20
out on the wing holding a gun. And when she's
38:24
in the fuselage, she's... hovering over a treasure
38:27
chest of strange jewels. All the vanity of a
38:30
late 1960s TWA poster meets Disney's Pirates
38:36
of the Caribbean, but all shot in the '90s. I
38:38
don't know how that works. So I wonder what kind
38:40
of favors they had to pull or what they had to
38:42
pay to get those shots into GQ UK. What was the
38:47
circulation like? Okay, it says circulation was
38:51
around 130,000 per month. Dismal. If you look
38:55
at the photos in there of Melania, you can see
38:58
why the magazine was not successful. The robots
39:00
are here. I'm not surprised that the photo of
39:03
the check at Mar-a-Lago, I'm not surprised
39:07
that that's Celina Midelfart. I wouldn't have
39:11
guessed that. I wouldn't have been able to figure
39:13
that out. I don't think anybody cracked that
39:15
one. But why is it redacted, that photo? Celina
39:20
Midelfart isn't known to be a victim of Donald
39:23
Trump or Epstein. Why is her name redacted
39:27
from the letter underneath the photo that Joel
39:30
Pashcow wrote to Jeffrey Epstein for his 50th
39:34
birthday? This is L3G4L's special investigation
39:37
with Ed Lyman in Los Angeles. Another part of
39:41
the report that was pretty surprising to me is
39:43
they've got this section about a girl named Kate,
39:45
but that's just the pseudonym. Her real name,
39:48
Anouska De Georgiou. Anouska is a pretty well-known
39:52
survivor of Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell,
39:54
and she's an activist. She's out there really
39:57
pushing for the Epstein files transparency. You'll
40:00
see her at the press conferences. And she's very
40:03
kind. You can tell that. It comes across in her
40:05
social media posts. She posts a lot of positive
40:08
and inspirational messages. And it's strange
40:11
that this report doesn't use her actual name
40:14
and why they're using the name Kate in the first
40:16
place, because the report gives you some pretty
40:20
good clues that it's actually Anouska, including
40:23
by citing to a news article about Kate. And if
40:27
you follow the footnote to the news article,
40:29
you read the news article for yourself, you'll
40:31
find the article is about Anouska. So I'm going
40:33
to read from portions of the report about Kate,
40:36
but instead of using that pseudonym, I'm just
40:38
going to replace it with Anouska's name. And
40:41
here's what it says. Anouska's story is particularly
40:43
suggestive of Trump's active involvement in Epstein's
40:47
sex trafficking ring. Her FBI witness interview,
40:50
released in the Epstein files, details how Ghislaine
40:54
Maxwell took her to a party in New York where
40:57
Maxwell presented Anouska to Trump. Anouska,
41:02
a young model, remarked that this was the same
41:05
way Maxwell introduced her to Epstein. Another
41:08
document in the file confirms that Maxwell set
41:11
Anouska up on a date with Trump, and other sources
41:14
show Maxwell, Trump, and Anouska then traveled
41:18
together on Trump's private jet to Florida.
41:21
Maxwell's role of introducing young women to
41:24
Trump was so well known that a tabloid covered
41:27
it in 1997, remarking how Trump was friends with
41:31
Robert Maxwell's daughter, Ghislaine, who has
41:34
introduced several of her attractive friends
41:37
to the property developer. So that's the report
41:40
referring to the news article from 1997. I looked
41:44
at the news article and it talks about, it's
41:46
like a publicity piece. It's talking about Ghislaine
41:49
Maxwell, Donald Trump, and this younger 20-year-old
41:52
model named Anouska De Georgiou. The article is
41:56
titled "How Sweet, Trump's Brit of All Right."
42:01
It ran in the Sunday Mirror in 1997. I'm going
42:05
to go ahead and read it to you right now, but
42:07
just for context, back in 1997, Donald Trump's
42:10
coming out of that marriage with Marla Maples,
42:13
and there's lots of speculation about whether
42:15
he was cheating on her and with whom. And I'm
42:18
not speculating that it was with Anouska. There's
42:22
a lot of speculation out there that it was Melania
42:24
that Donald Trump had met Melania much earlier
42:27
than in 1998 at that Kit Kat Club, but of course
42:31
that's all just speculation. There's no reliable
42:34
or competent type of evidence out there that
42:37
I'm aware of that would tend to prove it. So
42:39
I'm going to read this article to you from the
42:42
Sunday Mirror about Anouska De Georgiou. And it's
42:46
written in 1997. It's titled, "How Sweet, Trump's
42:50
Brit of All Right." Just weeks after ditching
42:52
his second wife, America's best known billionaire,
42:55
Donald Trump. It's crazy. Is he really a billionaire
42:58
at that time? I don't know. America's best-known
43:01
billionaire, Donald Trump, has fallen under the
43:03
spell of a 20-year-old English girl. Trump,
43:06
50, who has failed in his bid to secure the services
43:10
of Princess Diana's butler, Paul Burrell, was in
43:13
search of another British trophy when he met
43:15
London model Anouska De Georgiou at a party in
43:19
Manhattan. Several American millionaires already
43:22
had their eyes on Anouska. But she was there
43:24
with Robert Maxwell's daughter, Ghislaine, who
43:27
has introduced several of her attractive friends
43:29
to the property developer. And none of his would-be
43:31
rivals owned a vast mansion in Florida like
43:34
Donald does. Mar-a-Lago, where I have dined
43:37
with him and his outgoing wife, Marla, is enough
43:40
to make any young girl go weak at the knees.
43:43
After their meeting, Trump flew Madam Maxwell —
43:47
that's what we've got to start calling her, Madam
43:49
Maxwell — and the model south to the Sunshine
43:52
State, where all three enjoyed a happy weekend
43:54
together. When they returned to New York, Anouska
43:57
was installed in one of Donald's many apartments
44:00
there. So a lot of that's news to me. I mean,
44:04
it's possible other people have been well
44:07
aware of this article for a long time, but it's
44:09
new to me that Anouska was staying in one of
44:14
Donald Trump's apartments in Manhattan. I didn't
44:16
know that. She doesn't publicly speak about anything
44:19
with Donald Trump, not to my knowledge. But the
44:21
way this is written, in many ways, it sounds
44:24
like a publicity piece. I speculate that it's
44:28
an attempt to rebrand Ghislaine Maxwell. If you
44:32
live anywhere outside of the UK and you're listening
44:34
right now, you're probably not familiar with
44:37
the fact that about six years before this article
44:40
came out, Robert Maxwell owned the Mirror
44:46
Group, all the Mirror newspapers, huge holdings
44:49
in newspapers, and he stole about nearly, nearly,
44:54
he stole nearly a billion dollars of pensions
44:57
from all of the employees for all of these newspapers.
45:00
After Ghislaine Maxwell's dad, Robert Maxwell,
45:03
died, there were criminal prosecutions of her
45:06
brothers because it was alleged, and we definitely
45:09
know for certain that the pensions were stolen,
45:11
but it was alleged that her older brothers
45:13
were also involved in that theft. And although
45:17
they were acquitted, she was always concerned
45:19
around the time of the death and a few years
45:22
afterwards of going to England because she was
45:24
concerned about how much public animosity there
45:27
was towards her family for what her father had
45:30
done. And the money was missing. It's still missing.
45:33
So I speculate that the money was laundered through
45:36
Jeffrey Epstein, but I'll save that for a different
45:39
episode. So this newspaper article... it's
45:42
ironic that it's in the Sunday Mirror, given
45:45
that Robert Maxwell stole a billion dollars in
45:48
pensions from that company about six years before
45:50
this article was published. But it's also interesting
45:53
that these writers or anyone at the Mirror would
45:56
have anything to do with Ghislaine Maxwell. It
45:58
seems to me like an attempt to rebrand her. And
46:01
you see that consistent across different newspapers,
46:04
including ones in America where, in my mind,
46:06
somebody's paying money to have articles
46:09
written about her to make her appear to be a
46:12
socialite so she can develop into that, which
46:14
is really a grifter like her father. But yeah,
46:17
if you ever listen to any of my live shows on YouTube
46:20
or TikTok or Substack, from time to time, I talk
46:24
about the whole issue with her and her crime
46:27
family. And I'll do a special podcast episode
46:30
about it soon. I wonder, in terms of Anouska
46:33
De Georgiou, I wonder what holds her back from
46:36
talking about Donald Trump. Makes you wonder
46:39
if there was some type of settlement agreement,
46:41
a nondisclosure, some reason why legally she
46:44
can't talk about Donald Trump. Or is it fear
46:47
of Donald Trump, fear of speaking about him,
46:50
which would be totally understandable, especially
46:53
since there have been so many allegations of him
46:56
using violence against women. Also, the report
46:59
talks about how Anouska testified against Ghislaine
47:04
Maxwell at Ghislaine Maxwell's criminal prosecution
47:08
in that case. Speaking of which, Ghislaine Maxwell
47:14
is in federal prison still, at least as far as
47:16
we're aware. I mean, I do check from time to
47:19
time the Bureau of Prisons website to do the
47:21
inmate locator and see where Ghislaine Maxwell
47:24
is. On my social media, I did a post a couple
47:28
of weeks ago. I don't think it was too well received
47:30
by anybody, though. There's certainly not that
47:33
many likes on the post, but I suggested that
47:35
maybe we should all band together and send
47:38
some redacted books to Ghislaine Maxwell so she
47:41
could read in prison. But remember, it was not
47:46
long ago, the summer of 2025, when Donald Trump's
47:51
then Deputy Attorney General, Todd Blanche, who
47:55
was working under Attorney General Pam Bondi
47:58
at the time, flew down to Tallahassee, Florida,
48:02
where Ghislaine Maxwell was being held in prison.
48:06
And Todd Blanche interviews her for two days
48:09
with a court reporter present, in a sense, some
48:12
type of de facto proffer, which doesn't really
48:15
make any sense. What was she making a proffer
48:18
for? We know the Department of Justice had decided
48:22
to not investigate anybody surrounding Epstein
48:26
or Donald Trump and all of these allegations.
48:29
So why were they trying to figure out what Ghislaine
48:34
Maxwell knows? A lot of Todd Blanche's questioning
48:38
was misguided. But what the Judiciary Committee
48:41
report says is that during these interviews,
48:44
Ghislaine Maxwell starts to talk about somebody
48:47
named Jane. And we know Jane was a 14-year-old
48:50
girl when she had been trafficked in this whole
48:53
network. And Todd Blanche cuts Ghislaine off
48:56
and redirects her. I mean, doing that one time
48:59
is suspicious, but this happened a few times
49:03
during the entire interview with regard to Jane.
49:06
So I'm going to play for you right now an excerpt
49:10
from the interview between Todd Blanche and Ghislaine
49:13
Maxwell. This is day two of the interview. These
49:16
specific interactions between the two are what
49:20
the Democrats are saying in their report is Todd
49:23
Blanche basically redirecting Ghislaine away from
49:28
talking about Jane. You kind of reject that that
49:32
happened, that you saw that, an obviously under-18
49:36
woman coming to give him a massage. Well,
49:39
I believe you're talking about Jane, and I'm
49:41
very happy to address that. I actually don't
49:44
think that the testimony is correct. I don't
49:48
believe... No, no, I just wanted to... Yeah,
49:51
yeah, I don't want to get into... No, no, no,
49:52
absolutely not. I don't want to go there. I'm
49:55
not going to do that. But I believe that what
49:58
took place with a lot of these people is that
50:00
there was a slide, right? So there was a zone.
50:06
And he did meet her, and I did meet her, and I
50:09
knew that she was a young child and I knew that
50:11
she was not an adult. But I don't believe he
50:16
met her until she was 16. So I'm not doing a
50:20
he said, she said. I'm not doing that because
50:22
that's not what we have. And here's the other
50:26
clip that the Democrats say proves Todd Blanche
50:30
is redirecting Ghislaine Maxwell away from talking
50:34
about. So I think it's helpful to put this on
50:40
the time, on the calendar, because I think without
50:44
that we're lost. So I would say we'll go from
50:48
the beginning. '91, no. '92, no. '93, no. '94, no. '95,
50:53
no. '96. Now, in that time frame, you have the
50:57
allegations of Jane, which I dispute. I don't think
51:01
you met her until she was... Let's not talk about
51:03
individuals. No, no, I'm just saying. But there's
51:06
only, so in that time period, I'm only aware of
51:08
her. The report says that the whole point of
51:11
the conversation here was to create a conspiracy
51:13
of silence and strategically deter Ghislaine
51:17
Maxwell from sharing information that was not
51:20
public at the time regarding the relationship
51:23
between Trump and Epstein. I don't know if I
51:26
quite exactly hear that within these excerpts.
51:30
But I did notice after I read both days of these
51:34
transcripts that Todd Blanche isn't very focused
51:38
when he's examining Ghislaine. He'll ask her
51:41
open-ended questions and she'll divert onto
51:44
different topics and he doesn't redirect her
51:46
back enough, in my mind, to, in a sense, box
51:50
her in so that she can't later change the testimony.
51:54
A lot of the interview goes this way. And this
51:57
is just a hypothetical type of question. If Todd
52:00
Blanche were to ask Ghislaine if the sky was
52:04
blue throughout the entire day, Ghislaine might
52:08
answer something like, well, I know before 8
52:13
o'clock in the morning it wasn't blue. Then
52:15
Todd Blanche will simply move on to a different
52:18
subject. He doesn't follow up with basic questions
52:21
such as, well, what was the sky like after 8?
52:25
Was it blue at any time after 8? It seems to
52:28
me that he'll ask questions that are entirely
52:31
irrelevant and won't elicit anything useful whatsoever
52:35
from Ghislaine. And in between those moments,
52:39
he'll pepper in something that is important to
52:42
Donald Trump. And at the end of the day, Blanche
52:45
really shouldn't be interrupting Ghislaine when
52:47
she's talking. The whole point is to get her
52:50
to talk, not to get her to stop talking or cut
52:53
her off midway through a thought. Having read
52:57
the transcripts before, having listened to these
52:59
interviews before, and then listening to them
53:02
again and again, based on this new perspective
53:04
that the Democrats give us in their House Judiciary
53:08
Report, I don't see in these couple of passages
53:11
about Jane that what Todd Blanche is doing
53:15
is as sinister as the Democrats are making it
53:19
out to be, but it could be, and it might be because
53:22
we really don't have a lot of information about
53:24
Jane. I can imagine that Jane really is kryptonite
53:28
to Donald Trump, and I can see Todd Blanche
53:32
really trying to bury this and dirty up the record
53:35
so Ghislaine doesn't talk about Jane. After all,
53:39
Todd Blanche is asking her questions as to whether
53:42
she's aware of any underage girls with Epstein
53:46
around the time frame of '91 through 2000-ish.
53:49
And when Ghislaine brings up Jane, you'd think
53:53
that Blanche would want to know more about her
53:57
and those allegations. But Blanche probably already
54:00
knows a lot about her and those allegations because
54:02
he would have had access as a then-deputy attorney
54:07
general to Jane's testimony in the case of the
54:11
United States v. Ghislaine Maxwell. One of the
54:15
other major things disclosed in this report is
54:19
the account of Beatrice Keul. She alleges she
54:24
was raped by Donald Trump in 1993. She was a
54:30
young Swiss model who was recruited to attend
54:33
Trump's American Dream pageant. The House
54:38
Judiciary Committee staff interviewed her.
54:40
She discussed the pageant and how there was a
54:44
press luncheon at Donald Trump's Plaza Hotel.
54:47
During their introductory conversation, which lasted
54:50
about 15 minutes, Donald Trump mentioned to her
54:53
that she should go talk to his friend, Paolo
54:56
Zampolli, who would take care of getting a visa
55:00
for her. Trump then told her that he could get
55:03
her into NYU. He repeatedly told her that he'd
55:08
take care of her. Keul said that once she stopped
55:11
talking to Donald Trump during that luncheon,
55:14
Jeffrey Epstein immediately approached her, and
55:17
she talked to him for about 10 minutes. During
55:19
their conversation, Epstein kept looking over
55:22
at Donald Trump, who was on the other side of
55:24
the room. Epstein kept grinning at him. Epstein
55:28
made similar promises to her and explained to
55:31
her that they organized many parties for Don.
55:34
Later that day, Donald Trump's representative
55:36
invited Keul to go upstairs at the Plaza Hotel
55:40
and meet with Donald Trump in his room. She thought
55:43
this was going to be a lucky break for the purpose
55:46
of furthering her career and education. Trump's
55:50
representative ushered her up into the suite,
55:53
where, upon entering, Trump reportedly grabbed
55:57
Keul from behind and forcibly raped her, in the
56:01
process tearing her dress. and causing bleeding
56:04
and bruising on multiple parts of her body. Keul
56:07
described the rape as brutal. Following the assault,
56:12
Trump sat her on the edge of the bed and repeated
56:16
the same promises to her about getting a visa
56:19
and attending NYU. Keul said she finished the
56:23
rest of the pageant in a daze and that her passport
56:27
was taken from her upon arriving. During the
56:31
pageant, she was also summoned, along with four
56:33
other models, to a private audition with John
56:36
Casablancas. Throughout this report, Donald Trump's
56:39
relationship with John Casablancas and Jeffrey
56:42
Epstein, and also Paolo
56:45
Zampolli, is further explored, showing how all four of those men had
56:48
sometimes worked in conjunction, coordinated
56:51
their efforts to obtain sex from younger girls,
56:54
including by shipping them throughout the world,
56:58
luring them in with the promise of elite education
57:02
or a green card. Beatrice Keul was 24 years of
57:07
age when this rape took place at the Plaza Hotel.
57:11
One thing I'm really fascinated by in terms of
57:14
the Plaza Hotel is that before the lawyer named
57:18
Roy Cohn ever even met Trump, Roy Cohn was using
57:23
a certain suite within the Plaza Hotel to blackmail
57:28
and extort politicians and other wealthy men.
57:32
The hotel room was rigged up with eight-millimeter
57:34
film cameras. And the technique to bait people
57:38
in was young people. In 1986, Roy Cohn died of
57:43
complications from AIDS. Two years after that,
57:46
in 1988, Donald Trump purchased the Plaza Hotel.
57:50
And it's understood that those blackmail operations
57:53
continued through Trump. None of that's in this
57:57
report. It doesn't surprise me that our government
57:59
doesn't like to talk about these types of surveillance
58:02
operations. Surreptitiously recording people
58:05
seems to be yet another thing Jeffrey Epstein
58:09
and Donald Trump have in common. I just hope
58:11
our Congress, our government can investigate
58:14
that, get to the bottom of it, and find all the
58:17
recordings. Some closing thoughts about the report.
58:21
It spends a lot of time showing how Donald Trump,
58:23
his administration, and the Department of Justice
58:26
are covering for him. And so these Democrats
58:28
on the House Judiciary Committee are recommending
58:31
the appointment of a special counsel to investigate
58:36
Trump's potential crimes and the crimes of Jeffrey
58:40
Epstein's other co-conspirators. I like that
58:43
step that the Democrats are formulating some
58:45
type of plan. And the purpose of these special
58:48
counsels is to avoid the conflicts of interest
58:50
of having Donald Trump run an investigation on
58:54
himself. There's a lot more in the report. I'm
58:57
just going to leave that to you to check out.
58:58
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59:01
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59:03
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