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Google Finally Catches Bing on AI Visibility — and Microsoft Confirmed The FSA Framework · Found in AI: AI Search Visibility, SEO, & GEO

• 0:41
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, welcome back to Founded AI.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm Cassie Clark, a fractional content strategist and AI search optimization expert, and the host of the show where we talk about AI search optimization, GEO, AEO, and what all of this means so we don't get lost in this new wave of user search behavior.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_00: Today is Thursday, June 4th, and we have two big updates to get into.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_00: One of them is about what you can see, the other is about what's actually retrieving you.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_00: In FYI, I'm still battling the case of the cooties.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: It is leaving me out of breath, and when I'm not at my desk, I am 100% napping.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_00: So apologies again for this week not getting the show out on time, usually at 6 a.m.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_00: Easter time.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to keep up, I swear.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just having to nap a lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: But first, let's get into it.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_00: Google launched its generative AI performance report yesterday inside of Search Console, and and I think this one might be the most interesting story that's probably not getting enough airtime.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: Microsoft announced something called WebIQ.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_00: Let's start with Google.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you've been listening since the winter, you might remember episode 34, I think, where I said that Bing was the first major search engine to really say, hey, AI visibility is a thing, and we're gonna show you how it works.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: Their AI performance feature inside Webmaster Tools was at the time the closest thing we had to a Google search console for AI answers.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, yesterday Google finally caught up about four months later.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_00: On June 3rd, Google announced new search generative AI performance reports in Search Console.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, Google again did not get here first, Bing did, but when Google moves, the entire industry turns its head and watches where they go.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_00: And that's exactly what's happened this week, and honestly, the last two weeks with that GEO guide that they were released and all their other AI features and updates about AI visibility.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're all watching.
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  SPEAKER_00: The fanfare around this report has been enormous.
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  SPEAKER_00: My LinkedIn feed this morning is currently cluttered with updates about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So here's what the report actually does.
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  SPEAKER_00: You now get a dedicated view of how often your URLs show up inside Google's generative AI features.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_00: That means the AI overviews in AI mode on the search side and generative AI features inside Discover.
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  SPEAKER_00: This used to be blended into your overall performance report.
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  SPEAKER_00: You couldn't separate the I ringed and blue links from I got pulled into an AI overview.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I know that was a cause of frustration for so many marketers out there because we just couldn't tell.
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  SPEAKER_00: But now there's a standalone section for it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because for two years, the honest answer to how am I doing an AI search was kind of a shrug.
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  SPEAKER_00: But now we can see it with this report.
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  SPEAKER_00: The report breaks down your data by impressions, pages, countries, devices, and date.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the date goes all the way down to hourly.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you can see which specific pages are surfacing in AI features, in which countries, and on which devices.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, here is the catch.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's impressions only.
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  SPEAKER_00: No clicks, no click-through rate, no average position, no query data, absolutely none of that, just impressions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Google is telling you how often you appear inside an AI answer, but not how many people click through to you and not what they search to get there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Google says more metrics may come over time, but today, impressions, that's all you get.
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  SPEAKER_00: So think about what this means for a second.
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  SPEAKER_00: The report kind of answers, am I visible inside AI Search?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes or no.
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  SPEAKER_00: It does not answer how much traffic is AI Search actually sending me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that measurement gap is now kind of half closed, but it's not completely closed.
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  SPEAKER_00: And honestly, the missing piece, that query data, is the one that I want the most because that's the piece that tells you how the model is categorizing you.
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  SPEAKER_00: We talked about that back in February with Bing's grounding queries.
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  SPEAKER_00: Google is not giving us that yet.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's interesting, I'm not sure why they're doing that.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're just not giving us that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, there's a second piece to this Google announcement, and I find this one really fascinating.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a new toggle that lets you opt your content out of generative AI features.
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  SPEAKER_00: We talked about this many, many buds ago when this was first becoming a thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: But you can opt out of the AI overviews, AI mode, and AI features in Discover without hurting your normal search rankings.
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  SPEAKER_00: Google explicitly said that if you opt out, you won't get traffic or impressions from those AI features, but you also won't get pushed down in the standard results.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, the real answer to a question publishers have been asking since AI overviews launched is can I leave that AI layer without torching my regular SEO?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well now apparently you can.
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  SPEAKER_00: There are a couple important caveats though.
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  SPEAKER_00: Both of these, according to a BBC report I read this morning, the report and the toggle, are rolling out to a small subset of website owners in the UK first.
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  SPEAKER_00: That UK first piece isn't random either.
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  SPEAKER_00: It tracks with regulatory pressure in the UK around how publishers get used in how sorry, let me try again.
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  SPEAKER_00: How publisher content gets used in these AI features.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the opt-out control gets formally honored starting on June 17th.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there's a window where the UK site owners can configure it without it taking effect just yet.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, would I actually use that toggle?
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_00: For most of my clients, no.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_00: No, I would not.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_00: AI overviews are reaching over 2.5 million people, 2.5 billion people a month, and AI mode has crossed a billion users.
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  SPEAKER_00: Opting out means walking away from the exposure at scale, but the fact that the choice exists is the story.
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  SPEAKER_00: Control is now part of a mature ecosystem, and I guess that's nice in a way.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_00: So that's Google.
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  SPEAKER_00: You get measurement plus control or the scoreboard plus an exit door.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now let's talk about the engine in the room.
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  SPEAKER_00: Goodness gracious, I'm struggling.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the second update is Microsoft WebIQ.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was announced on June 2nd.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to be really careful here because this is not the same kind of thing as a Google report.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's probably not getting a whole lot of attention.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if you walk away thinking that hey, this is a report, then I've done you a disservice.
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  SPEAKER_00: The root Google report is something that you log into.
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  SPEAKER_00: WebIQ is something that AI systems log into.
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  SPEAKER_00: Microsoft is calling WebIQ a suite of AI native guiding APIs and is built for what they're calling the Agentic Era.
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  SPEAKER_00: The cleanest way that they describe it is where Bing was a search engine built to help people find things.
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  SPEAKER_00: WebIQ is a search engine built to help AI agents find things.
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  SPEAKER_00: That means pull the right evidence, turn it into usable context, and reason over it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's built on top of the Bing index, but they've kind of reconfigured the whole stack underneath it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, why does this matter to you if you are a content strategist or a marketer and you're never ever gonna call an API?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, when you look into it, this is fascinating.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because WebIQ tells us in Microsoft's own words what these retrieval systems actually value.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it maps almost perfectly onto the framework that we talk about so much on the show: freshness, structure, and authority, the FSA framework.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let me show you what I mean.
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  SPEAKER_00: On structure, WebIQ doesn't return whole documents to the AI.
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  SPEAKER_00: It returns passages or structured evidence objects.
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  SPEAKER_00: Microsoft's whole pitch is fewer tokens in, better answers out.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_00: They want the densest, cleanest, most relevant chunk of your page, not the whole thing.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: Which means if your content is one long, undifferentiated wall of text, you are hard to extract from.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: You need clear headings, tight sections, self-contained answers.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's not formatting device anymore, that's machine legibility, that's the S in the FSA framework.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now on freshness, the entire premise of Web IQ is connecting AI to current real world information, the stuff created after the models were trained.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: Microsoft is explicit that grounding quality depends on the corpus being global, fresh, and continuously updated.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sale content is, by design, less retrievable.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the F in the FSA framework.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now on authority and trust, they build a metric for this.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're calling it grounding satisfaction, whether the evidence is complete, fresh, and authoritative enough to actually serve the user's intent.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_00: They're optimizing for trustworthy sources, and that's the A in the FSA framework.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: So here's the thing that kind of gets me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Google just gave us the dashboard to see our visibility.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's great, yeah, perfect.
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  SPEAKER_00: But in the same week, Microsoft published a blueprint for how the retrieval actually works, and it independently confirmed the exact three levers we've been pulling all along.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_00: One company handed us that scoreboard, the other one accidentally handed us the playbook, even though it may not really look like that from the surface.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_00: So let me pull this all together.
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  SPEAKER_00: In February, I told you it was a maturity moment because AI search became measurable and monetized in the same week.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_00: This week is the next layer of that maturity.
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  SPEAKER_00: Google, the absolute biggest player on the internet, has now formally said AI visibility deserves its own reporting.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's measurement finally going mainstream.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Microsoft, bless them, I will forever call them the pioneers.
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  SPEAKER_00: They have shown us the actual machinery underneath the AI retrieval, which really tells us where to put our effort.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: If you take one action from this episode, here it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Go find out which pages are surfacing in AI answers and overview, AI mode, all of the things.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: Listen, I am struggling today.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for sticking around.
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  SPEAKER_00: But go look at that report.
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  SPEAKER_00: Even if all you get is the impressions as a starting point that we did not have last week.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then take those pages and then ask the web IQ questions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is this passage clean enough to extract?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is it fresh?
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  SPEAKER_00: Does it read as authoritative?
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  SPEAKER_00: The infrastructure is finally telling us very clearly what it wants.
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  SPEAKER_00: We just have to listen, take notes, and then put that into our strategy.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, I'm Cassie Clark.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_00: If you want to know where your brand actually stands inside AI Search before you start making changes, that's exactly what an AI Search Visibility Audit is for.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: And you'll find more info on that in the show notes or at CassieClarkmarketing.com.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's it for this week.
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  SPEAKER_00: I will see you on Tuesday.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_00: I'm probably gonna go take a nap, I'm not even kidding.
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  SPEAKER_00: Until then, stay visible.