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The Emotional Night of ARBAEEN · After Maghrib 🌙

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  Assalamu Alaika, ABBA Abdullah, Mullah Rahman, Raheem Assalamu
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  Alaikum and welcome back to another episode on the Aftermath
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  Red Podcast. It is the 20th of Safar.
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  Ourselves alongside hundreds of millions of Muslims all around
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  the world are marking the 40th of Imam Al Hussain, the arbahein
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  of Imam Al Hussain. And it goes without saying, we
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  send our condolences to the Imam of our time.
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  Imam Al Sahab Al Asri was the man me Allah hastened is
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  reappearance. And to all our listeners and
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  viewers from all over the world, our hearts are heavy and we are
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  recording this episodes not too far away from the 20th of Safar.
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  And I do want to say there is a possibility that the alphabet
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  team may be blessed to be in the holy lands of Karbala and
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  inshallah we can do what we did similar to last year and perhaps
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  take it a step further in propagating the message of our
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  behind to the world and the masses Inshallah.
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  But that is something that we ask Allah to give us the topic
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  for. And before I speak more about
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  Arbaeen and what Arbaeen means to us and what's the
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  significance of Arbaeen, there is something we want to share
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  about after Madrab and perhaps we'll save it towards the end of
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  this episode. But we can't have this.
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  I can't have this conversation alone.
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  I have to have it with my amazing beautiful Co hosts and
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  my Hosseini brothers brother Muhammad Ali Assalamu Alaikum.
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  And of course, Brother Ahmed Goku Salaam, alaikum Salaam.
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  It's good to be in the presence of both my Hussein, your
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  brothers. Yeah, it's, it's, yeah, it's
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  heavy time. Of course, time flies to paddle
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  life. I think every year we think how
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  has it been 40 days since Ashura and we think about the journey
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  we've been on emotionally and spiritually from the beginning
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  of Muharram, of course, up until now, the 20th of Safa.
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  And we reflect on all of our personal reflections.
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  But I think something which is overarching and far more
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  important than ourselves as of course, the Imam of our time and
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  paying tribute to his grandfather, Mum Hussein, who
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  was martyred on the plains of Karbala.
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  So there's a lot to talk about today and inshallah, I know we
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  have some important news for everyone at home, a lot of
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  updates from after Margaret, but a lot of of key and important
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  things to to to let you guys know about.
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  But inshallah, we're going to do that probably towards the end of
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  the episode. So yeah.
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  Inshallah and you know you, you I, I otherwise you mentioned
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  about what Arbaai means to you. You know, for me, it's like the
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  month of Muharram especially, you know, the first leading to
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  the phantom Muharram. It's like emotional.
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  It's more you, you build your relationship in your connection
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  and you're left with Abdullah in terms of grief and Aza and
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  stuff, right? But when it comes to like
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  Urbain, it's more like a Pledge of Allegiance.
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  It's like we are here to answer your call.
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  How do you feel like when it comes to the 40?
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  Yeah, 100%. I think I've only been blessed
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  to be in Karbala for one Arvain in my life, so I I can vividly
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  remember that experience. That's how do I.
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  Think back to it was maybe like 2-3 years ago, not not long ago.
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  But yeah, I remember that experience really vividly.
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  It was amazing to me, like to be able to see it for the first
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  time. And I envy anyone that is going
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  for the first time. I, I mean, I don't know how it
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  will. Maybe it will be the same on the
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  second experience, maybe it'll be even better.
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  I, I don't know that yet, but yeah, I definitely envy anyone
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  going for the first time because you see things that you never
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  thought you would see in your life.
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  Like, you know, the, the level of pain and the level of
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  dedication of the people of Iraq, of Najaf and Karbala and
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  the amount of service that goes into Al Bahin.
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  I think it just shows you how many people are are are are
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  patiently waiting and trying to show their allegiance to the
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  Imam of their time. Yeah, and it's an amazing, you
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  know, this headmere and this service and this not just that,
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  it goes beyond that. It's like unity and brotherhood.
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  And it's like you're all there for one reason.
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  And you know, I can imagine. I remember we had, I think a
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  previous guest at Season 2, if I'm not mistaken, and he
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  mentioned, you know, like when it comes to Irvine and you can
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  see all these lovers flocking towards the shrines of Imam and
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  Hussein Abaf Al Abbas. It's like we're answering the
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  call of Imam Sahab. Lastly was Zaman.
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  It's like we're here, like the Shia, we're waiting.
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  But maybe that's a deeper conversation.
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  But I, I do want to say, you know, you mentioned you envy
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  those people who go for the first time.
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  And inshallah we have this opportunity to go this year,
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  next year and every year and shallah until the grave.
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  But it makes you really think that when you don't have that
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  blessing, when you don't have the opportunity and you do get
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  it. Yeah.
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  There are hundreds of millions of other people who are yearning
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  to go, but we're not given that Tofiq to go.
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  Yeah, Is it? Do you think it's like a Tofiq
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  think? Yeah, there is a calling.
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  I think there's there's different layers to it.
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  So one is talking about Ziad Arbayin in terms of the heritage
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  of it, the the what we see from Mamasada Qadeh Salaam, when when
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  we actually read the Ziyarat and on, on Yamala Arbaeen and
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  talking about the, the day of the 40th being a historically
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  significant day. And then of course, in a
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  contemporary sense, we talk about the Najaft Karabala walk,
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  talk about the Bassart Karabala walk, all of these different
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  things people do in terms of their hidmen, their hosting and
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  their accommodation and whatnot for people coming from around
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  the world to visit Imam Hussein. So I think what we'll do
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  hopefully is talk about the significance of it from a
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  historical and a religious level and also from a contemporary
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  level. And I think a good place to
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  start is to understand, is there any origin, especially in our
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  hadith, in our history, when it comes to the 40th day after the
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  Battle of Ashura? Why the 40th?
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  Is it because there's something special that happens on the
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  40th? Did something take place?
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  Was it on the plains of Kabbalah or elsewhere?
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  So yeah, if you guys can maybe enlighten me and anyone else at
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  home. Yeah.
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  I mean there are obviously there are reports in the classical
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  Macartel that mentioned that say the Zainab Ali Saddam and Imam
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  Zainab Abaddeen Ali Saddam, the Sajjad, they returned from the
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  like from the from being prisoners of Sham on the 40th
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  day to Karbala to do the the first Yara of Imabad Hussein.
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  And obviously that coincided with the coming of Jaber and
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  Abdullahi as well. And that walk towards Karbala or
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  that journey towards Karbala that is kind of signified in the
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  nudge of the Karbala walk is basically repeating what say the
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  Zainab. But you know, I'm saying Imam
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  was in Aberdeen would have done going towards the Sierra of Imam
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  Hussain for the first time. And that's what we're basically
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  reviving exactly. So that is the origin obviously
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  of the of the Ziara. And also there's the merits of
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  the Ziara of, of Arbaeen. We have the famous narration of
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  Amal Askari, 5 signs of the Shia.
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  One of them is Ziath Arbain. Of course, Ziath Arbain in that
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  narration obviously would be encompassing of the people that
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  do this yard of the cover of Imam Hussein, but also
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  encompassing of the individuals that are able aren't able to go
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  to Karbala and would recite this yard on the day of.
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  What about the the the hadith from the I'm, I think Imam Salah
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  al Islam says that the one who travels to the highest peak, if
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  you're not there and able to do the Zyada itself in the physical
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  sense, go to the highest peak and perform your Zyada.
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  Yeah. Is that?
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  Is that a? Real.
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  Yeah, there are narrations like that.
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  The Zyada of Mamad Hussein Ali Salam, for example, it says to
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  go to a balcony or the highest point that you're able to on
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  your roof, for example, and send your salams from your from the
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  roof and inshallah, you're salaam's basically with Shaman
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  Hussain. Another really important thing
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  that happened to Alaban as well, and something that's mentioned
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  in narrations is that the day of the returning of the heads of
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  the Shahada. And that's something that's
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  that's really like significant about the day of Alaban, like
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  bahubait, I'm slammed. I believe they call it Yom
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  Marado Ross, right? The day that the the heads were
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  brought back and this, this is significant because obviously
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  that it reminds you of not only obviously the day of Arbaeen is
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  the the 40th day, but the mossaib is still ongoing.
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  The mossaib is still ongoing. Exactly.
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  The mossaib is still ongoing till this point where the heads
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  are still removed from their bodies.
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  These are are heads that still need to be buried, right?
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  And yeah, this is a very, very important day in the, in the, in
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  the hadith, in the reports, especially when you're looking
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  at the heads of, for example, you, you look at the head of
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  Imam Hussein Ali Saddam. Obviously it's mentioned in the
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  reports that Imam Zan Abadi Ali Saddam did the burial of Imam
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  Hussein on the 13th of Muharram. But also there are the reports
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  that say that they brought back the head of Imam Hussein, the
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  head of Imam Hussein. How holy, how blessed, how
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  sacred is that day that his head is joined with, with his body.
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  You know, this is the same head that you know, it grew on the on
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  the chest of Iman. This is what is Yarad say, you
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  know, Salaam on the on Imam Hussein who who suckled the from
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  the bosom of Iman, right? This is the same head that
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  Rasulullah kissed. This is the same head that was
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  on the thigh of Ambir Mummanin alongside the Imam Al Hassan.
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  Like this is this is that head, right?
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  So this is a very, very significant day for all of this
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  Shia and it's a day of sadness. And you know, the, the, The
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  thing is as well that, and I think this is important to bring
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  up. Obviously, you mentioned, you
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  know, in the contemporary times, we're speaking about the walk to
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  Najaf from Najaf to Karbala. I think with all the amazing
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  things and all the amazing service that is, is given to the
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  Zawar of about Abdullah Hussein, I think a lot of people have
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  have begun to forget this, this the the immense amount of
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  sadness that is originally associated with this thing.
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  It, it, it, it becomes almost a like, even if we look at a
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  Loftmiat, for example, and it's, it's, it's reflected in all of
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  the culture of Azhar. Like when you look at the
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  Loftmiat of Albaeen, they've become less about the Masahib
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  and more about the service of Imam Hussein and praising the
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  service of Imam Hussein. So you can see like there's a.
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  There's a shift. Here there's a bit of a shift in
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  the in the focus of people on this day, and I think it's very,
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  very important that we remember that this is a day of immense
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  sadness and grief and go back to those original roots of
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  remembering to be completely. Saying where law of poetry has
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  just become romantic. Yeah, it couldn't just it could
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  be like talk time, literally your wife if you wanted.
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  Or yeah, exactly. Yeah, some of the poetry that
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  comes out now, you're very right.
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  And I think there was one I said recently, this very famous Iraqi
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  Latimer that when I think viral on social media, one of the
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  reciters, he was reciting something like you'd say it's
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  Romeo and Juliet. You know, I don't want to take
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  you to that extent, but if you just change the name from
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  Hossein to, I don't know, a different name is like it's just
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  love poetry. Not talking about the grief of
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  the massage, but emphasising on the tragedy itself, but more
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  about, you know, feelings of love and everything.
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  But it was too much and it wasn't the the norm.
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  We normally is what's acceptable.
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  I think within society. They say society changes, but I
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  think we should never change our core principles and values.
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  I do want to add one thing as well, Muhammad, if I can like
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  just on the significance of the ZR of Imam Hussein.
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  It's not just limited to the urban period, right?
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  Yeah. And you can go and Zur your
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  master Imam and Hussein about Abdullah Salamullah Ali any day
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  of the year, right? And we have significant weathers
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  15 Shabana things like this. But in general, the Ziara it's
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  it's it's it's it's something that holds immense reward in the
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  eyes of a loss of like we come across a hadith by Imam Sadiq al
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  Islam. A man once came up came to him
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  after completing his hygiene. He goes to the Imam.
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  He goes, oh Imam, I've just completed my 19th Haj and the
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  Imams and the Imam was a response to him.
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  He said if you completed one more Haj would have equal the
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  Ziara of Imam Hussain Ali and Salaam.
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  So you can see like the the the reward and the station, the
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  mukam that the Ziara has in eyes of Allah even as far as you know
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  the Imam Assad that he says peace be upon the one who visits
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  Imam and Hussain and places his cheeks on the grave of Imam.
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  Peace be upon the cheeks and the face that gets hand in the sun
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  or those walking towards the Ziara of Imam Hussein.
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  There's a lot of a way out about angels and the angels who guard
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  the zawad of a man 40. 1000 angels or three with you.
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  Yeah, yeah, there's a the angels who angels travel with.
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  You when you leave your home until you're with.
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  You and angels who stay with you until the end of your life,
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  angels who circumambulate the Thadiya of a Mohammed, Hussein,
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  Ali Salat or Saddam. And of course the the ultimately
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  the, the station of, of the Zawad in the hereafter is
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  elevated. Yeah, because you're then seen
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  as someone who's performed as yada.
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  In all of human history, a small number of Shia have been able to
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  perform, I say this year in, year out.
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  I don't know if you remember saying every year I say like
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  you, you think about the last thirteen, 1400 years, what
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  percentage of Shia across this course of space and time have
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  been able to perform the ziad of Imam Hussain Ali Salaam?
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  Minimal, right? Because there must have been
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  hundreds of millions of shares over the course of history and
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  only a smaller fraction of that number has been able to perform
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  the CR. And to be able to do that now in
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  this day and age where you, we live thousands of miles away and
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  we're still able to go and on top of that have comfort and
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  services. Amazing.
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  But one thing I think a lot of us do when we come to the, the
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  time of Adebayan is we'll hear, we'll hear lectures, we'll feel
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  sad, maybe not as sad as we do in the 1st 10 nights tomorrow,
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  which is something in itself as a discussion.
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  We'll, we'll listen to a lot of Latami art.
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  What's the latest track? What's the latest thing?
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  We'll watch Instagram Stories, for example, of people who are
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  going, we'll watch them or walk here.
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  We'll watch the, you know, what's the latest updates?
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  Our friends are flying, our families are flying, so on and
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  so forth. We treat it as a social thing,
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  which has obviously its benefits.
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  And I'm not going to downgrade that at all because that's
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  incredible. We cannot dismiss that.
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  Of course, we don't maybe give us a much as much attention as
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  we should to the actual Ziyada itself.
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  The Ziyada Imam Salah gave us Ali Salaam and of course, the
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  merits of the the Ziyada, the also the construction of the
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  Ziyada itself. The Ziyada itself is really
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  beautiful, like the introduction, sending the Salaam
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  al Imam Hussein and talking about his his merits and his his
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  goals, talks about his genealogy and then it talks about his
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  progeny. Then it talks about Osaluddin
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  and quartets of theology and it reaffirms your faith.
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  It it it. What's the word I'm looking for
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  disunites? Is that the one I'm looking for
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  from the enemies of the Ahlabat al Islam, You know,
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  disassociates from the enemies of the Ahlabat al Islam.
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  And, and these are things which I think are so important for us
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  because we say that Adabain is a time where we like stamp our
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  allegiance. We've tried, we've tried for the
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  last 40 days, 50 days to do our best.
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  And now we are at the core, the peak of that emotion.
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  It's brewed within us. How far have we come?
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  And that ziyada itself, that recitation of the ziyada should
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  be like that, that that filter, that litmus test for us to
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  understand, like, have we actually benefited?
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  Have we learned, Have we processed, have we acknowledged
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  where we've come from? And and what Imam Hussein has
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  Ali Salaam has done for us. I want to echo as well what what
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  you were saying about the hadith to do with the ziyada of Imam
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  Hussein Ali Salaam. It's very, very important that
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  we all look at these hadith. We actually get familiar with
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  these hadith like books like Kamala Zarat, for example.
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  Kamala Zarat has many, many narrations with regards to the
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  father of the Zarat. I'm saying these are things that
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  everybody, every Shi'i should be familiar with to the extent that
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  you mentioned, for example, with regards to the reward of, of, of
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  it being equal to, for example, 20 Hajj.
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  Obviously you have the other reports that are 100 Hajj, 100
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  Umrah that are Mahbola. But it also goes to the extent
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  to say that the Imams Ali Musalam Imam al baqar Ali Salaam
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  says Murushi atina be zihara to Pabrel Hussein, right?
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  He says order our Shihara to go towards Zihara Bam Hussein.
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  Just that no, he says for inner Zihara to who Muftaravon Allah
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  Kuli movement. Compulsory.
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  And in other narrations they say for inner Zihar to Wajiba, to
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  Allah Kuli movement like this is the extent they're speaking
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  about obligation. That are why out of course the
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  scholars, they have a discussion, was this to do with
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  a specific time frame during the time of Banu Abbas where they
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  were holding the Shia back from the Ziara and the Imam was
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  making an obligation so that the Ziara of Imam Hussein didn't
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  stop, right? That's a different discussion.
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  But this is the importance of Ziara of Mohammed Hussein that
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  even in that specific time period for it to have been made
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  obligation on the Shia. That shows you the significance
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  of the Ziara, how life changing it is, how significant it is in
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  your Islam and your relationship with Allah Subhana to others.
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  The Ziara of Mohammed Hussain it can't be compared with with any
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  other visitation. So.
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  You know these these hadith are very very important.
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  If you look at Kamala Ziara to this book is a book written by
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  Ibn Holloway. Some of our scholars, they used
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  to they they consider it so authentic.
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  This book every hadith within this book, they consider it so
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  authentic because even pull away in his introduction, he says
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  that I've only brought the rewired from the trustworthy
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  narrators. Some of the some of the Olama.
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  What they say is that what he means by that is his Messiah,
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  which is just the first person in the chain, right.
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  And not necessarily the whole chain, but other scholars have
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  said the entire chain. Yeah, and all of hadith in
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  Kamala ziharats are authentic. According to these scholars.
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  These are books that are all to do with the Mohammad Hussein in
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  Muharram, if not in Muharram during the time of Al Baeen and
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  even till even now, we still have until Farhat Zaharat.
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  These are books, and they're not even that big.
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  Yeah. They're not even.
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  It's not even that much this. Episode 2 years ago with
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  Muhammad Sadeel. Why?
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  We went through Kamala Ziharat and we just pick gems from it.
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  Yeah, we'll say he did. Yeah.
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  Yeah. And it was such a beautiful
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  episode. Yeah, honestly, Hamlazi or Art
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  is a beautiful book and we should all be familiar with it.
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  It's in English. It's not.
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  There's no like, you know, there's no barriers or boundary.
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  And there's reports in there, if I'm not mistaken, Hamid, where
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  it mentions, for example, the NBR visit, the great Sahel.
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  It was even a a very famous story.
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  I think we've all learned also where.
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  Yeah, I was going to there where one of the Shia of Aliabata
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  Rasulallah went to visit and then someone stopped him from
• 19:01
  visiting. And then he tried to go again
• 19:03
  and the person stopped him again.
• 19:05
  He told them why he's stopping me.
• 19:06
  I'm trying to visit before the sun, before the sun rises.
• 19:08
  Let me at least do my before my ziara.
• 19:10
  He said I'm an Angel, son, by Allah, and I can't let you in.
• 19:13
  Maybe Musa Ali, Salam zoom ziara of Imam and Hussein Ali.
• 19:16
  Like look at the the makam, the status.
• 19:18
  And, you know, speaking about makam and status, we say muzarah
• 19:21
  Hussein Araf and pikadra azar Allahfi.
• 19:24
  Yeah. Sorry.
• 19:25
  Araf and Bhaktar for the one who visits Imam and Hussein knowing
• 19:30
  his Macomb, his status, his stationed a lot as if though
• 19:34
  he's visiting the throne of Allah.
• 19:35
  Wow, that's the heavy one. I think of that.
• 19:38
  I don't think we can. We take people take it lightly
• 19:40
  like you mentioned. That's a minimal.
• 19:42
  Ticker. Yeah, man.
• 19:43
  Yeah, it's in the same families. You mentioned people very
• 19:46
  minimal from the let's say the Shia population go to visit like
• 19:50
  if they if they immense themselves in these in the world
• 19:53
  of hadith incarn maziar, if they understand the status and the
• 19:57
  macam and the. Blessings, that's where the
• 19:59
  rewards, that's where the because all of these hadith,
• 20:03
  when they talk about the reward and they talk about the
• 20:04
  significance, there's always that clause Arif and be happy.
• 20:08
  Yeah, now Arif and be happy like, you know, someone may
• 20:11
  think, you know, I've understood the the status of Imam Hussein,
• 20:14
  that is something that's infinite, that goes on and on
• 20:17
  and on. Yeah.
• 20:18
  Now your reward will be in. In proportion with how Arif, I'm
• 20:25
  happy who you are, right. So that's where it shows you
• 20:29
  actually that the Ziara is, is a is a transformative process only
• 20:33
  if you have marifa of the Imam, right?
• 20:36
  That's the only way that you can get something out of it.
• 20:38
  And and Imam Hussein's marifa is is boundless, right?
• 20:42
  So the only way you and, and This is why we see in the
• 20:45
  narration, sometimes a companion comes, he says to Imam, what's
• 20:48
  the reward of Ziara of Al Hussein?
• 20:50
  He'll say 1 Haj. Right.
• 20:52
  Maybe obviously we don't know the intentions of the Imam, but
• 20:55
  the Imam, he's speaking to different people when he's
• 20:58
  saying these different rewards, he's saying 1 hatch, 10 hatch,
• 21:00
  100 hatch to someone, 1000 Hajj and Omraha to someone else,
• 21:04
  right? So obviously the Imam, he's
• 21:06
  speaking to, an individual knowing of his marathon, knowing
• 21:09
  of how much this person is understanding of the Makam of
• 21:13
  Mahasain and Imam we. Did Jamaat Knights I think
• 21:16
  episode 2 or 3 was on Haj versus Yah we say verses but it was in
• 21:21
  essence understanding a comparison and what what the
• 21:24
  hadith say. Let's move on to the
• 21:25
  contemporary. About the Ziara.
• 21:28
  Can I add one thing I learned about the Ziara just before we
• 21:30
  move on the conversation? Yeah.
• 21:32
  You know, if Allah soprano wata, Allah says you live for 70
• 21:35
  years. OK, so let's say God grants us
• 21:37
  70 years in this life before we go to the hereafter.
• 21:41
  When you go on Ziara, even if God has counted you that you
• 21:45
  live 70 years from the moment you leave your home until the
• 21:48
  moment you return home, whether it's a week, a month or two, you
• 21:52
  spend that and the intention of going Ziara, that doesn't count
• 21:54
  from your life. Wow.
• 21:56
  Like it, it's mad like the the things you learn when it comes
• 22:00
  to the Ziara of Muhammad Hussein, all you can say is
• 22:03
  thank you Allah for instilling the love of Imam Hussein because
• 22:07
  bro, it transforms you. It allows you to grow spruce.
• 22:10
  And not just that, they say, you know, we have the narrations,
• 22:13
  the reports that say if God loves his servants, he instills
• 22:16
  in his heart, he places the love of his heart, and not just his
• 22:19
  love, the love of his Ziara. You know, I was talking to a
• 22:22
  work colleague work at work today, Ben shout out Ben, who's
• 22:26
  probably listening. Me and Ben were talking about
• 22:29
  the what we love about our community.
• 22:32
  And we both, we came to a conclusion that generally
• 22:35
  speaking, even at times of discord and disunity and
• 22:38
  whatnot, when there's tension online or wherever on WhatsApp
• 22:41
  and God knows, even at times like that, we're still more
• 22:45
  united than other Muvaheb because we have something in
• 22:49
  common with each other. We stand beside each other, we
• 22:51
  do Hazar Habil Hussain accent. We, we are united.
• 22:57
  That too bro. That's to say yeah, yeah.
• 23:00
  And it brings us together and it we fall crazy in love with
• 23:03
  Abdullah Al Eslatul Salam. And we don't see that anywhere
• 23:07
  more than in Arabahin and Arak. Now, Alhamdulillah, between us,
• 23:12
  we've had the opportunity to go each a few times or at least
• 23:14
  once each. And I've been twice, you've been
• 23:17
  once, you've been Marshall, I think a few times, I'm not
• 23:19
  mistaken. And we've had inshallah.
• 23:21
  Hopefully you guys will get the opportunity to be there together
• 23:23
  this year by the time this comes up.
• 23:24
  But for those who are unaware of how beautiful this Ziara is,
• 23:32
  never underestimated. Each tier that is shed, there is
• 23:38
  a declaration. Each step that you take towards
• 23:40
  Karbala is a rebellion in the midst of worldwide oppression
• 23:45
  and absolute tyranny and injustice.
• 23:48
  Nothing is needed more in this world than the art of Arbaeen.
• 23:54
  Where else in the world do you see 20,000,025 million people
• 23:57
  flock towards a rural city in southern war-torn Iraq?
• 24:01
  Where you see the disabled and the amputated crawling,
• 24:05
  gathering strength, shouting the name of Hossein, crawling on the
• 24:08
  floor towards him? Where else do you see children
• 24:10
  with tears in their eyes handing out water?
• 24:13
  Where else do you see 2300 meals distribute free of charge?
• 24:17
  2 billion cups of water given out free of charge.
• 24:21
  People's thirst is quenched, their stomachs are satiated,
• 24:25
  they're able to actually fill their stomachs and also fill
• 24:28
  their souls in terms of love and spirituality and dedication and
• 24:33
  devotion. This is what albine means to us.
• 24:36
  So when we know people and I'd say we've all been on this
• 24:38
  journey, that's absolutely transformed who we are as
• 24:41
  individuals. It's transformed our our
• 24:43
  relationship with our last panel to Allah.
• 24:45
  All of it is Kurabat and Illallah, our near, our near.
• 24:49
  And our intention is to get closer to our last panel to
• 24:51
  Allah. And this has been something
• 24:53
  transformative for all of us in different ways, shapes and
• 24:56
  forms. I want to ask you guys when you
• 24:59
  think about this week because look, we're seeing, everyone's
• 25:02
  been seeing on the last few days on social media, their friends
• 25:04
  have gone, their families gone. They're seeing on social media,
• 25:06
  people are walking the Mashiah, the Malwakib.
• 25:09
  What? What comes to your mind?
• 25:12
  What 3 words? Let me do this here, say it.
• 25:15
  I'll start with you. What 3 words come to your mind
• 25:18
  when you think of the whole spectacle of Zyat Arbain and the
• 25:23
  walk and the performance of the pilgrimage?
• 25:27
  I'd say love, sacrifice, beautiful because you see all
• 25:33
  those three 24/7, whether it's 1:00 AM in the morning or
• 25:38
  whether it's 10:00 PM at night. It's like a never.
• 25:41
  It's like this. It continues like it has no end
• 25:44
  to it. And the moment you land, the
• 25:46
  moment you arrive during the arpan period until the moment
• 25:49
  you go back home, if you love, you see the sacrifice and you
• 25:54
  see true service, not service because someone's getting
• 25:57
  something in return. No fee.
• 25:58
  Sibel Allah, for the love of ABBA Abdullah Hussain.
• 26:00
  And we're talking about if I can mention a story when I, when I
• 26:03
  went, I think 3 or 4 years ago, when the Ziara group and we left
• 26:07
  Baghdad airport and we landed just after federal time.
• 26:11
  So we wanted to pray federal before we we reach Najaf, Najaf
• 26:15
  Vashrav. So we stopped, we saw a mokib.
• 26:18
  The bus driver stopped and he spoke to the owner of the mokib.
• 26:21
  He said ABS Zuwar with me. Can they pray in your mokib?
• 26:23
  He said yeah, of course, 100%. He turned on the light, he moves
• 26:27
  the was the blue nylon barrier like he starts sweeping laid on
• 26:32
  the prayer mats and Shekhar you blood to Salah.
• 26:34
  We all prayed behind them. As soon as we finished, brother,
• 26:37
  we saw a whole group of youth, I'm talking about 11 years old,
• 26:42
  12 years old, making tea, preparing breakfast.
• 26:46
  And they're like, OK, like now you've prayed, now it's time for
• 26:50
  you to come rest and eat before you head off and continue like,
• 26:52
  no, we'll have breakfast in the hotel because no, no, no, no.
• 26:55
  The moment you landed in Arab, where you sleep, where you eat,
• 26:59
  where you rest, that's our responsibility.
• 27:02
  And bro, that gave us some tears and that moved me, man, that one
• 27:08
  lot that I'm like, we're chilling in London, everyone
• 27:11
  doing their best to serve. No, no, no.
• 27:13
  Come to our behind and see something out of this world.
• 27:19
  Out of this world sent. To a guy at work, Yeah.
• 27:22
  Palestinian guy. Bizarre.
• 27:23
  And he goes, why are you guys going to Al Afghani?
• 27:26
  Suddenly it's not Harlem anymore.
• 27:28
  Yeah, yeah, my dad's. I'm OK and they're giving out
• 27:31
  food. So I shot him videos.
• 27:33
  And he was so confused. He's like, why are you making
• 27:37
  all this food? Like that Doesn't make sense to
• 27:38
  him. Yeah, is.
• 27:39
  That who's paying for it? Does Alaska pay for it?
• 27:41
  Does the government pay for it? I'm like, no, we pay for it out
• 27:43
  of our pocket. And he this is this is the love
• 27:45
  we have for 1%. It doesn't make in his head.
• 27:48
  It wasn't. It wasn't like.
• 27:49
  Registering, Oh well, this is this is something people can't
• 27:52
  comprehend. You mentioned meals.
• 27:54
  How much do you spend as like maybe each each family spends
• 27:56
  10,020 thousand? Minimum, minimum, minimum.
• 27:59
  He's like, bro, but that's money.
• 28:00
  You could buy it for a car. I'm like, yeah, but we don't
• 28:02
  want to buy it. This is This is our.
• 28:04
  Love and you know what's beautiful about this?
• 28:05
  Like you mentioned 22300 meals happening throughout this
• 28:08
  period. It's not government backed.
• 28:11
  There isn't like an industry behind this trying to serve
• 28:14
  something. No, no, no, This is, oh, this is
• 28:16
  backed by a lot. Let me just put into quantify.
• 28:19
  Yeah, at least do what, 25 million people say they're there
• 28:22
  for a week each. Yeah.
• 28:24
  For example, you're having three meals a day.
• 28:26
  So if you've got 25 times 375,000,000 meals a day, yeah,
• 28:31
  they're there for a week each, We probably talk over half a
• 28:33
  billion meals. Theoretically that people are
• 28:36
  eating half a billion, right. Each meal, theoretically, let's
• 28:40
  say it costs two, 3 lbs or dollars to generate, serve,
• 28:44
  create, whatever. You're talking about people
• 28:47
  funding billions of dollars from their own pocket.
• 28:49
  Iraqis talking about people who live in Iraq.
• 28:52
  Yeah, one of the poorest countries on earth who are
• 28:55
  putting their own pocket money together to serve people from
• 28:58
  around the world to come to visit Imam Hussein.
• 29:00
  And there's a lot of Salaam, I mean.
• 29:01
  There's one charity in Alab called Esabe.
• 29:04
  You can donate to them here for an absent charity.
• 29:07
  I think just water they they hand out about 20 million
• 29:10
  bottles of water. Unbelievable.
• 29:12
  And it's it's. Like and that's just one
• 29:14
  organization. That's one organization.
• 29:16
  They go to all the warehouses in Alab and each warehouse like
• 29:18
  donates. Like one guy will donate 300,000
• 29:21
  bottles, one guy will donate 100,000.
• 29:23
  You know all the warehouses, they'll collect a total of like
• 29:25
  10 million bottles. That's insane.
• 29:28
  You can't, you can't, you can't, bro.
• 29:30
  There's never a a time or a place where you ever feel hungry
• 29:33
  or or thirsty. You wouldn't ever have a places.
• 29:36
  But I remember the first time on Ardabhai in when we were driving
• 29:39
  back after the day of Ardabhai in myself and say to Hassan, but
• 29:43
  we got in a taxi and this guy told me it was quite sad.
• 29:47
  That was quite emotional. He's like, we saved the whole
• 29:50
  year round. He's like like the whole year,
• 29:53
  my family business, he goes, I'm a taxi driver, he goes I've
• 29:56
  saved everything for Arbaeen so we can have a mole CIB.
• 30:00
  They did their mole CIB when we and he obviously quoted us to
• 30:02
  get from Karbala to Najaf and whatever and by the time we got
• 30:06
  there, he said no the whole trip.
• 30:07
  You can't pay for it. We know how it is Mujah milat
• 30:09
  and you're back and forth. But he said no, this is my
• 30:11
  headmath to you. You guys was a wild from the
• 30:13
  West. I'm not going to allow you to
• 30:15
  pay me anything. These things put things you know
• 30:17
  this is the peak of human potential.
• 30:19
  The pinnacle of human ability is witnessed there.
• 30:22
  Like what level can a human being reach?
• 30:25
  Yeah. What is the Sunnah of the Holy
• 30:28
  Prophet? You see that the akhlaq of those
• 30:30
  that Sunnah in? I really think so.
• 30:34
  Dude. So dude.
• 30:35
  Honestly, like I, I felt exactly the same.
• 30:37
  Like when I was going, I started walking from the harem of Amir
• 30:41
  Mumini and I think it was my my first time.
• 30:43
  So I was like, I didn't start from pole one.
• 30:45
  I thought, you know what, God gotta do it from Father.
• 30:48
  To shrine. To Shrine.
• 30:49
  Shrine to shrine. So I've started walking and
• 30:51
  obviously you know why this Salaam is actually a lot bigger.
• 30:54
  Than yes, yes. Of course, right.
• 30:56
  So they they have these poles, like these fake poles.
• 31:00
  Yeah. And they think you, it makes you
• 31:01
  think that you're, you're making progress, right?
• 31:03
  But even in this road, like already there's so many Malachi
• 31:07
  that you actually think you've started the walk.
• 31:09
  Even before I got to pole one, people had invited me into the
• 31:13
  houses. People are asking me, come here,
• 31:16
  pray. People are telling me, come
• 31:18
  here, eat. I remember actually, so there
• 31:22
  was this kid that I will never forget him actually.
• 31:24
  And it wasn't, it was it was a small thing that that happened,
• 31:28
  but it, it stayed with me like throughout my Ziara and even
• 31:32
  when I came back here and what it was was he stopped me to, to
• 31:37
  eat and I'd just eaten, right. So I wasn't I, I wasn't like
• 31:40
  hungry or anything. So he's actually come, come eat.
• 31:43
  We've made fresh kebab, Zissa and I'm like now, honestly, I've
• 31:46
  just eaten. Thank you so much, Ahmad, all
• 31:48
  the all this. And he's like, no, he's like
• 31:50
  he's holding on to me and I'm like, honestly, Habibi, I'm,
• 31:53
  I'm, I've eaten. Thank you so much this.
• 31:56
  And then what? Like to to kind of like, you
• 31:59
  know, like kind of let him know politely that I'm I'm going to
• 32:04
  keep walking. I've gone to kiss his forehead,
• 32:06
  right And he's refused and he's and now he's fighting to kiss my
• 32:11
  forehead, right? And he's telling me there's no
• 32:13
  way. Yeah.
• 32:14
  And this is the kid. This is like 11 years old.
• 32:16
  Ten years, 10 years old kid. He's like there's no way you're
• 32:19
  going to kiss my forehead. You're desire of a mammal,
• 32:21
  Hussein. I'm going to kiss yours to me in
• 32:25
  a 10 year old. The clock the the level of a
• 32:31
  clock Conservatory to Imammal Hussein that has been put in
• 32:34
  that kids mind. That was something magical.
• 32:37
  To me, you know, Subhanallah, you know, just like it's like
• 32:39
  the love and the headman and the sacrifice you give.
• 32:42
  It's not just for those who are, let's say young men or, you
• 32:45
  know, in the 20s of no, from children.
• 32:48
  I remember just to add to your story of children.
• 32:50
  Yeah. I mean, this, this, this was I
• 32:52
  think my first out of mind. I went with Shabab.
• 32:55
  So I'm, I'm, I think I'm talking about over 10 years ago.
• 32:59
  By the way, we went with a group of I think 30 Shabab from
• 33:02
  Rasulullah bomb and we went Ziara, we walked from Najaf to
• 33:05
  Karbala al Hamdullah. And during the journey we came
• 33:08
  across a young boy, Ahmed I I still remember how he looks like
• 33:12
  short hair. He he was like not in the best
• 33:15
  of clothes. He was very bossy to say Bossata
• 33:17
  like humble, probably a villager from somewhere like that's,
• 33:22
  that's that's how he looked like, right.
• 33:24
  And he had the orange bin with him.
• 33:26
  I still remember an orange bin and he's walking around picking
• 33:29
  up rubbish, putting it inside his and, and the orange bin.
• 33:33
  Remember we started, I was, I think I was with Hassan no up
• 33:36
  and we told them how he be like what you're doing.
• 33:38
  It's too young. I I, I still remember.
• 33:41
  Where's your mum was your dad? He was like, she knows Mama was
• 33:43
  my dad. I'm cleaning the streets.
• 33:45
  Like, why clean the streets? He goes.
• 33:47
  This is the only thing I can do to serve Imam and Hussein is by
• 33:50
  clearing the pathway for a Zoar. And the guy was six years old.
• 33:55
  Like, look at the mentality that the children have.
• 34:00
  I imagine like when when bro that's not for someone who
• 34:03
  hasn't been Ziara. You need to go, especially
• 34:06
  during the arbine periods. I think what's also very
• 34:09
  important is to recognise the importance of going again and
• 34:12
  again, right? Because obviously for me I I've
• 34:15
  only been. Why is that?
• 34:16
  Do you mind if I ask? Is it to renew or is it to just
• 34:20
  gain a new experience? I think what it is and I think
• 34:23
  it what it is, is that from what I understand, there's a, there's
• 34:26
  a hadith of the Imam Ali Salaam. There's a, there's a lady that
• 34:30
  comes to the Imam and the Imam asks her, I believe it's Imam al
• 34:33
  Bafar or Imam Sada. He says to her, do you do the
• 34:37
  Ziyar of Mama Hussein? And she said, yes, I do.
• 34:41
  Now the natural response here would be the Imam to say that's
• 34:44
  very nice, that's very good, you know, and but no, he doesn't
• 34:49
  even respond in that way. He says go towards the Ziyar of
• 34:52
  Mama Hussein, still go towards Ziyar of Mama Hussein, continue
• 34:55
  going to the woods Ziyar. So the Imam is giving that that
• 34:58
  impression that look, there's y'all of Mohammed Hussein is not
• 35:02
  like when we say, like, for example, Hajj, for example, Hajj
• 35:05
  is a spiritual experience that everybody kind of thinks in
• 35:09
  their mind as something that I'm going to go once in my life.
• 35:12
  Maybe it's important to to go again and again.
• 35:15
  But generally speaking, that's the mentality that we have,
• 35:17
  right? That's the tick box.
• 35:18
  I have to go at least once in my life.
• 35:21
  Does y'all of Mohammed Hussein, when we look at in the hadith of
• 35:24
  the Imams, I am Salaam, the imams are again and again
• 35:28
  they're, they're repeating to say go again and and again and
• 35:31
  again, especially for the people that are in Iraq.
• 35:34
  Yeah, right. So the people that live near the
• 35:36
  the, the Karbala, their mom's telling them go again and again.
• 35:40
  In some of the reports, I I believe mentioned for one person
• 35:45
  to go every year and another person it said go every three
• 35:48
  months. Yeah.
• 35:50
  So there are levels of responsibilities that we have.
• 35:52
  And I think that the repetition of it, I think it it, it's like
• 35:58
  Muharram it. Keeps you in check man.
• 35:59
  It keeps you in check. It's like Muharram, like, you
• 36:01
  know? That rule Compass.
• 36:02
  That time of the year where you are completely focused, I think
• 36:06
  for all Shia, that's that time. And Albaeen and the Zara
• 36:09
  Muhammad Hussein, I think just amplifies that feeling of coming
• 36:13
  back to your roots, coming back to the light that you were made
• 36:16
  from. Yeah, we're looking at the light
• 36:20
  of Imam and Hussein, Ali, Saddam.
• 36:21
  Like that's the, that's why we all gravitate towards it, right?
• 36:25
  Because that's our origin. It's beautiful and you know
• 36:27
  what, I think this is something and maybe look for those who
• 36:30
  have done this yard and obviously, inshallah, there's a
• 36:32
  releasing around the time of Aruba in day.
• 36:34
  If you're listening to this and you're in Karbala or you've
• 36:37
  finished yours yard and you've gone back to Niger for Samudar,
• 36:39
  wherever you are, Please remember asking your daughter
• 36:42
  and inshallah your yours yard is accepted.
• 36:44
  And for those who are listening to this from far from home,
• 36:47
  wherever you are around the world, make the near from now to
• 36:51
  go inshallah next year. Book your time off from work,
• 36:54
  you know for next year. I booked last year when I came
• 36:57
  back, the first thing I did was book my time off for this year
• 37:00
  and at the time I'm recording, I have no plans to go so or I'm
• 37:04
  not able to go. But Subhanallah, it's amazing
• 37:06
  because you know, at least there's like even though whether
• 37:10
  you can or you can't go, you know that you had the near to
• 37:13
  go. You know that you had the
• 37:15
  intention to go. And even then you know if the
• 37:18
  opportunity arises, then you won't run into issues.
• 37:20
  Make that book it off a year in advance at least, you know, for
• 37:23
  those who are listening from home now and you're thinking,
• 37:26
  you know, you've got the FOMO, you know, and you want to go
• 37:28
  next year, book your time off from now.
• 37:30
  Start saving up from now. Save 5050, seventy, £100 a
• 37:34
  month, whatever you can, inshallah.
• 37:35
  Work the extra shifts, work the extra hours, put that money
• 37:38
  aside and then within 7-8 months you'll have enough.
• 37:41
  Enough money maybe to go or save enough up, enough days at work.
• 37:45
  To go so that's that's. It's really important, really,
• 37:47
  really important. It's achievable.
• 37:48
  Like let's be real, as yard is expensive.
• 37:50
  Depends where you're going from, different parts of the world.
• 37:52
  If you're going from North America, you're talking two,
• 37:53
  $3000 from the UK, maybe one or $2000.
• 37:57
  But generally speaking, it's achievable, right?
• 38:00
  We have opportunities, we have groups, we have accommodation.
• 38:03
  It's doable. So people who say, oh, I can't
• 38:06
  get time off work, I don't have the funds, I I get that.
• 38:09
  But now we have enough time in Charlotte to prepare for next
• 38:11
  year and that gives us the opportunity.
• 38:13
  Nothing else. That's the place to go to get
• 38:15
  your prayers answered. I sent.
• 38:17
  Imam Saab is the man. He even says in in Zyata now
• 38:19
  here that Saddam's upon the one who Allah placed answering the
• 38:24
  odds under his door, right? This is something that's given
• 38:28
  to it must be seen exclusively, right?
• 38:31
  The same way that the shifa is in his torba, right?
• 38:34
  This is something that is exclusive to Imam Al Hussain Ali
• 38:37
  Salaam. So if if nothing else, if for no
• 38:40
  other reason, then that's where your prayers get answered.
• 38:42
  That's the the place to go. Well, beautiful reminder, Allah,
• 38:45
  beautiful reminder. I just want to also add
• 38:47
  something to the advice you gave to our listeners is that
• 38:50
  sometimes I hear around people say I want to go.
• 38:53
  I want they have the intention to go, but they're, they're
• 38:56
  scared to go because they're alone.
• 38:58
  But I, I, I, I think if you go to your local community, speak
• 39:03
  with them, I'm sure they can advise you on Ziara group.
• 39:05
  I'm sure they can tell you, for example, OK, there's, we know
• 39:08
  six brothers are going from this Hosseini or the Semamarka maybe.
• 39:11
  Why don't you join? Guys, message us, listen, if you
• 39:13
  don't trust your community or you don't know any, message us
• 39:16
  online, Instagram, e-mail us. We'll do whatever we can.
• 39:19
  If we know groups going, we know people going in Charlotte, we'll
• 39:21
  try do whatever we can for next year in Charlotte.
• 39:23
  And obviously there's other times in the years that, you
• 39:25
  know, people go December and Easter and all these different
• 39:28
  times of the year, which great. So Arbane is one-of-a-kind
• 39:31
  though. So it's, it can't be missed.
• 39:32
  I think it needs to be experiences.
• 39:34
  I think what Ahmed, what you said also about making the
• 39:37
  intention, it goes a long way, right?
• 39:40
  There's AI think there's there's quite a big thing in in like our
• 39:44
  kind of South Asian communities where people say, you know, I
• 39:47
  haven't been called. Right you.
• 39:49
  Know that the kind of mentality that you know, I haven't been
• 39:52
  called yet. They may even have the
• 39:53
  capabilities to go and that like, you know, I think having
• 39:57
  that intention, I think goes a long way.
• 39:58
  Once you have that, like, you know, that longing in your
• 40:01
  heart. Mahmoud has seen you'll.
• 40:02
  Make it, make it happen. I've said this before on the
• 40:04
  pod, I'll say it again. My first start of Bain was in
• 40:09
  2022, OK? And I think for me, that was the
• 40:15
  first year after my son was born.
• 40:17
  And that year my Muharram was like elite in London.
• 40:22
  I really felt it. I think it was the year after
• 40:25
  COVID or two years after COVID. So we just start having majalis
• 40:27
  again. And I really got into it and I
• 40:30
  really enjoyed it. And I think I cried more in that
• 40:34
  Muharram than I probably have in the last few years, or at least
• 40:36
  in my adult life. And I had a longing, like a
• 40:39
  yearning. I remember after Ashura
• 40:41
  thinking, I know it's not going to happen, but if there's a way,
• 40:44
  Allah make it happen, please. Anyway, I did, it was about a
• 40:49
  week before Arbayin, OK, or before people start flying out
• 40:52
  for Arbayin. And I did a really small Maj.
• 40:56
  list in my home, the first Maj. list, which Hamdallah, every
• 41:00
  year I've been able to host in my home during this period.
• 41:02
  And the NIA is to serve Bibi Omar Banin.
• 41:05
  And that was the first year I made that.
• 41:06
  NIA and I had Sheikh Ibrahim on Saudis, who's a good friend of
• 41:09
  us and the team. He came to my home and, you
• 41:13
  know, the brothers were eating and and it was everyone was
• 41:16
  talking about buying, booking flights, this.
• 41:18
  And I was like, yeah, I can't go.
• 41:19
  While we were on the sofa in my own home, the merge list, I was
• 41:23
  chatting to Sheikh Ibrahim. I said, bro, just one second.
• 41:26
  I'm getting a call. I need to pick it up.
• 41:28
  It's quite urgent. I will say to Hassan, who's a
• 41:31
  good friend of ours, he called me, he's like Ahmed, the call
• 41:33
  has come, we're going, I'm sorry, what do you mean?
• 41:36
  He's like, I was like, don't play with me bro.
• 41:39
  He's like, no, we're going to Irvine, pack your bags, we'll
• 41:42
  sort everything out and share Allah, the accommodation.
• 41:44
  With everything all sorted, we were able to go and film and do
• 41:49
  work with charity. And I went with my dear brother,
• 41:53
  said Hassan Shahramandamani, who's of course a brother to us
• 41:56
  as well, teacher to us. And I had the most beautiful
• 42:00
  first out of buying trip. I wasn't going to say out of
• 42:03
  buying trip because I then went with said Ali.
• 42:05
  So that, which is equally, you know, memorable for many
• 42:08
  reasons, but I just, I just feel like there's, there's, there's
• 42:12
  times, you know, when you work 100%, you know what someone
• 42:15
  says, try your hardest and then you try your hardest plus 10%.
• 42:18
  Yeah, that's that's when that's when you feel like you earned
• 42:22
  it. That, yeah, I felt like I earned
• 42:23
  it, but I actually felt like I was, I was brought, you know?
• 42:27
  Well, that makes hope for later. Than in one of the lectures,
• 42:29
  actually when I was at Arbaeen, I think it was the night of
• 42:32
  Arbaeen and the lecturer was a Pakistani lecturer and he was
• 42:36
  reciting and he was saying that there are some people that are
• 42:39
  saying that, you know, we haven't been called, we haven't
• 42:42
  been invited by Mamad Hussein. And he said do you know what I
• 42:47
  say to that individual? I say that in order to be
• 42:52
  personally called by Mamad Hussein, you have to be Habibul
• 42:55
  Mubahid. Allah said.
• 42:57
  He said the job of the slave is to go and find the lost.
• 43:03
  So like that that that mentality is is is more like how we need
• 43:07
  to. You go knocking on the door.
• 43:09
  Exactly. You do anything to ask for an
• 43:11
  entry, beg for an invitation, beg for entry, beg for access to
• 43:16
  Visio. You don't say Oh no.
• 43:18
  If if the invitation comes, of course we believe that those,
• 43:21
  only, those who are worthy of going will be there.
• 43:23
  But you know, you need to make yourself known.
• 43:25
  You need to make yourself. Was fun alive.
• 43:28
  Every Muharram I I get asked the question, are you going to
• 43:31
  Arbine? Are you going to Arbine?
• 43:32
  Have you booked for Arbine? And I'm always like, inshallah,
• 43:36
  the intention is there. So the the answer is consistent
• 43:39
  throughout whether the Arcman Ramadan or the Arcman Sharp.
• 43:42
  Well, I will say in Sharp. Ways have there and you.
• 43:43
  Exhaust I think every opportunity possible, every Ave.
• 43:46
  you can take to try your best to go.
• 43:49
  If it doesn't happen, then I believe that is tough at the end
• 43:51
  of the day because you tried your ultimate best.
• 43:54
  And for people who I I will not, there's something I want to
• 43:57
  mention here. There's people out there who
• 43:59
  say, you know what? I'm going to go to Iraq, but I'm
• 44:07
  going to go Ziara. That's it.
• 44:10
  One day, then I'm going to go Dubai, then I'm going to go
• 44:12
  stumble, then I'm. Going to be right?
• 44:14
  Exactly. But I don't think you should
• 44:16
  ever have that intention. But you mean on the same trip?
• 44:18
  On the same trip. Because it's sponge.
• 44:21
  Spiritually, yeah. Yeah, how if you want how Yeah,
• 44:24
  it doesn't you should come home. It makes.
• 44:25
  Sense I know it's not random to bring in right now, but it was a
• 44:28
  combo I was having with a friend the other day.
• 44:29
  It was like, bro, your intention should be only Ziara, Only
• 44:33
  Ziara. Like yeah, nothing else.
• 44:35
  Someone told me, OK, I'm going to come out and go Ziara, You
• 44:38
  also want to go Baghdad. Honestly, the malls honestly
• 44:40
  like the new. What are you talking about?
• 44:43
  And you want to go visit the dunya?
• 44:50
  It's beside the Don't go far away.
• 44:54
  Yeah, man, like. Come on, bro.
• 44:55
  Yeah, yeah. And this time?
• 44:57
  You want to be. Honest, OK, let me ask you guys
• 45:00
  last last, last last question and.
• 45:02
  Before we spill the beans. To wrap up, yeah, we need to
• 45:04
  wrap up on AI. Don't want to say light hearted,
• 45:08
  but on a more social note, what has been your most memorable
• 45:13
  Mokib experience? My most memorable Mokib
• 45:17
  experience in Karbala. On the walk.
• 45:21
  Yeah, on the walk. OK, Indian Mokib, shout out to
• 45:26
  them. I think it was 400 and
• 45:28
  something. I can't remember which number it
• 45:30
  was, but they were basically looking for like people to come
• 45:33
  and eat. I think they were like looking
• 45:35
  out for Asians as well specifically.
• 45:38
  And they, they stopped us and I think me and my wife at that
• 45:41
  point, we were in the mode like we were walking like we didn't
• 45:44
  really want to be stepped. He took us in.
• 45:46
  He was like, now guys, come on. Like please come in.
• 45:48
  Now, at this point, we we tried to kind of like go in quickly
• 45:53
  grab something and just kind of exit the other way.
• 45:58
  As we exited, he caught us again.
• 45:59
  He was like, where you going? Like, you know, to stay pray
• 46:03
  here, this, that and they were so hospitable to us.
• 46:07
  Like we were we were like genuinely like, why is why is he
• 46:10
  being why is he? Like.
• 46:11
  Yeah. And that's really, we presume
• 46:13
  that that he's not a native, right?
• 46:14
  He's not Iraqi. He's not.
• 46:15
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.
• 46:17
  And they had like, it was a charity, I believe that was
• 46:20
  under the supervision of the office of Ayatollah Bashir
• 46:25
  Nejafi. And it was, it was an amazing
• 46:28
  market. Is it 465?
• 46:29
  These were amazing. Did they do medical stuff?
• 46:32
  Yes. They did, but The thing is 4/6
• 46:34
  or something like that. Yeah, something like that.
• 46:35
  But they weren't. They were amazing.
• 46:36
  Do you remember? Like met some amazing people.
• 46:39
  That as well went there last year as well.
• 46:40
  We checked that out yeah, yeah, I remember that as well yeah,
• 46:42
  it's massive. I remember that.
• 46:44
  Every time I go, I go and check it out because all all the all
• 46:47
  the boys are usually there as well.
• 46:49
  That's the way we filmed the brother, Neil.
• 46:50
  Or it's either. From somewhere near there.
• 46:52
  Yeah, it was near there. Neil was at 300.
• 46:54
  It's like, what about you said? Well, first of all, Handel, I've
• 46:58
  been blessed multiple times to go for Ziata Arbain and every SA
• 47:01
  different different experience with the people that you meet,
• 47:05
  the services, the husband that they offer and you see different
• 47:07
  things. Every Mochim offers a similar
• 47:10
  service, but everyone has their like their unique different way
• 47:13
  of headline, you know, different flavour connecting with you and
• 47:15
  stuff. But I would go back to possibly
• 47:19
  over that Ziara I mentioned earlier when I went with the
• 47:22
  Shabbat from Sullava, I think about 10 years ago.
• 47:26
  At that time, there wasn't really something like Internet
• 47:29
  in Iraq. The the telecoms infrastructure
• 47:32
  wasn't really there and everything.
• 47:33
  And there were people like coming from Iran and these
• 47:35
  countries that they're trying to connect with their family and
• 47:38
  everything. There was a Mokib, Mokib Wi-Fi.
• 47:44
  Well, there was no Wi-Fi, but I meant there was a more kid, you
• 47:48
  know. You know, in Iraq, like if you
• 47:49
  want to top up your phone, you have to buy like a car.
• 47:52
  You scratch it and you update the top up, right?
• 47:54
  The smoker was given out for free.
• 47:56
  So Zuar are coming and they're buying top UPS Wow to put Wow
• 48:01
  money into their phone. Crazy to call their loved ones
• 48:03
  to say OK, I'm on the way, I'm here, you're there.
• 48:05
  Like to me I was like, wow, who gives out free who at that time?
• 48:09
  But every GB was like what? Yeah, £20 an hour.
• 48:12
  Yeah, I'm, I'm being real. What can you the?
• 48:14
  Smoking was 20. Pounds you can drive across the
• 48:16
  country, yeah. So like, from, like, what age
• 48:19
  was like 20, maybe around. I was 20 then.
• 48:22
  And to me, that was what? What's going on?
• 48:23
  Yeah. This is something you don't see
• 48:25
  anywhere else in the world. Yeah, you.
• 48:27
  Can do everything, yes. So nothing charges.
• 48:29
  Yeah, charges, like when I saw those market, I was shocked as
• 48:32
  what I was thinking. Like it's thoughtful, it's so
• 48:34
  thoughtful. Like there's like a charger
• 48:35
  market, like it's just telephones.
• 48:37
  I came across Malwar Cube that fixed wheelchairs.
• 48:40
  I came across Malwar Cube that fixed your sandals.
• 48:43
  OK, like everything you can imagine.
• 48:47
  May Allah bless you know one thing that last thing I'll say
• 48:49
  and it's all for free. Last thing I'll say and like I
• 48:53
  truly believe this. I don't know whether people like
• 48:55
  it or not and and this is my opinion.
• 48:57
  Sharla who Imam likes it. Sharla, I feel that the people
• 49:01
  of Iraq have been given Imam Hussein for a reason.
• 49:04
  Ayesla to Salaam like you have to have some quality or
• 49:10
  characteristic which makes you worthy of hosting, being the
• 49:13
  gatekeepers of the imams body and the ones who honour him and
• 49:19
  you know, treasure his presence and respect him.
• 49:22
  And like, I feel like when, when you meet me being a someone
• 49:26
  who's immersed myself a bit more into the anarchic culture, my
• 49:29
  wife and my children are anarchy, my kids obviously mixed
• 49:32
  race, but I recognise that there's, there's a level of, of,
• 49:37
  of genuine and sincere personality traits which the
• 49:42
  Iraqi people have, which no one else has.
• 49:44
  I really believe that the love, the humility, the generosity and
• 49:48
  just there's overwhelming goodness that comes out of the
• 49:51
  Iraqi people. And I feel like no, no other
• 49:53
  human population, no other race or no other country could host
• 49:58
  Zarat Alabani like the Iraqi people do, the natives, the
• 50:01
  locals who put in everything like this is their life purpose,
• 50:05
  right? So Allah bless them, reward them
• 50:07
  always. Because we look up to them, you
• 50:09
  know, they, they, they, they look up, you know, they say, oh,
• 50:12
  you guys will come from far. We have it easy, right?
• 50:14
  We book flights, you know, we come in our polo shirts and our
• 50:18
  Nike trainers and stuff like we're chilling, generally
• 50:20
  speaking, right? We come from high paid jobs
• 50:23
  relatively to them we're coming and we're we're in luxury
• 50:26
  hotels. You have to bear in mind that
• 50:28
  oh, there's a word that come from like like some random city
• 50:32
  in like Mazur, Iran, or. Something.
• 50:34
  Oh yeah, Yeah, you're right. Yeah, yeah.
• 50:35
  These Iran, like Iranians are such a big part of the Zara as
• 50:39
  well, right? Yeah, of course.
• 50:39
  Every Iranian I meet in Zara Alwar, in the first question he
• 50:43
  asks me, where are you from, Al Tadam?
• 50:45
  Yeah, I'm from Britain. Did you come here by plane?
• 50:49
  Or by walking. That's the first, that's the
• 50:51
  first question that. He from Britain.
• 50:52
  Asks no, like you like you, you you'll say like where did you
• 50:56
  walk from? Like basically right.
• 50:58
  He'll be when I get to Karbala, like if I'm asking Iranian,
• 51:02
  you'll be like, oh, you came by plane like that's the first
• 51:04
  thing I ask. I'm like, yeah, I came by plane.
• 51:06
  It's like what about you? And he's like, I came from like,
• 51:09
  I don't know, like Mazan Iran, I came from here.
• 51:12
  I came from and you're thinking, bro, like how long was you
• 51:14
  walking? And yeah, to say lazy bro that,
• 51:20
  but honestly, like these guys. They work.
• 51:22
  They work 30 days ages. They work for like a month.
• 51:25
  It's like, and, and you have to bear in mind, like I'm working
• 51:28
  from legends to Kabbalah for like maybe a day and a half, two
• 51:31
  days maybe. And I've got food and water and
• 51:34
  everything at my disposal, right?
• 51:37
  You're walking from Mazandaran, bro.
• 51:38
  Like, I don't know how many Milwaukee people got on the
• 51:40
  road, You know what I mean? Like you know how how difficult
• 51:43
  that must be. One thing last thing I'll say
• 51:45
  for me is I know that there's also a group of brothers who go
• 51:48
  to Sham during these days and they do the walk.
• 51:51
  Have you been or do you know about it?
• 51:53
  I haven't been to I. Haven't been to a player to I
• 51:56
  can't remember what it is. They do a walk and if I like
• 52:00
  this is for those who have seen the through an episode we did a
• 52:04
  few weeks ago with brother Zaheb and and Hussain, they referenced
• 52:08
  it. But there's a beautiful walk
• 52:09
  which happens in Sham as well, and people do that as well, and
• 52:13
  I think that's something equally important.
• 52:15
  The allegiance to say. The Zainab allegiance to say you
• 52:19
  know, and just being able to, you know, recognise that
• 52:23
  Karbalai is, is not just the memory of the Makati, but also
• 52:28
  the tragedies and what happened to to what took place.
• 52:31
  I think that part is also divine, right?
• 52:33
  Yeah. We spoke up.
• 52:34
  We speak about, you know, shut Allah and Urani Katilan.
• 52:37
  I mean, Hussein is saying they all wanted to see me killed.
• 52:40
  And he says shut Allah. And you're like, that Allah
• 52:43
  wished to see them be taken as prisoners, as captives, Right.
• 52:47
  So that's, of course, like, equally as divine, as important.
• 52:52
  Yeah. Of Abdullah.
• 52:53
  OK, let's crack on last section guys, for those who are tuning
• 52:58
  in. So a couple of updates.
• 53:02
  I'm I'm going to kind of bullet point them and then Charlotte
• 53:04
  will discuss them, if that's all right.
• 53:06
  So the first being guys, is this will be the last episode for
• 53:08
  this season on after my clip, unfortunately.
• 53:11
  So my Salaam Qadhaf is to season 4.
• 53:14
  It's been a pleasure. We've had amazing conversations.
• 53:16
  We've had a couple dozen amazing episodes on the After Magnum
• 53:20
  Thursday podcast, which has been great, said Ali and myself, and
• 53:24
  of course the other hosts who played part and other guests, of
• 53:28
  course. So thank you to everyone who's
• 53:29
  been a part of this season on After Magnum.
• 53:32
  Not just those on the set, but you guys behind the scenes as
• 53:34
  well who are working, say, Mushtaba by the Muhammad Zahidi,
• 53:38
  Amir Sadiq. Yeah.
• 53:39
  So the whole team, sister Miriam, who helps the real
• 53:42
  sister Amina, who helps with thumbnails like Amir, Love,
• 53:45
  bless you guys. You are a core part of the team,
• 53:47
  you know that and. Sorry, Moss, anyone?
• 53:50
  Yeah, said Moss in. And the whole team, everyone who
• 53:53
  volunteers and who who makes it what it is to shout out to you
• 53:56
  guys, secondly to you guys at home.
• 53:57
  Thank you for everything. We've in the last.
• 54:00
  So this season we've probably had a few 100,000 views and
• 54:04
  listens across all platforms, which has been amazing.
• 54:06
  So thank you for helping us grow.
• 54:07
  We're not where we want to be. The reason why we're ending the
• 54:10
  season now is because we are being asked to leave this
• 54:14
  premises, which is unfortunate because we've only been here for
• 54:18
  under a year because the landlord of this building at the
• 54:21
  studio is selling the property. So we're unfortunately having to
• 54:25
  leave. So what that means is on very
• 54:27
  short notice we have to pack up everything you see here and
• 54:29
  everything you don't see and move it to a temporary place
• 54:33
  inshallah while we'll while we while while we are trying to set
• 54:38
  up a more permanent fixture. A lot of works in mysterious
• 54:40
  ways and great ways. So this is something hopefully
• 54:42
  which will in the long run be very beneficial for us.
• 54:46
  We pray inshallah at least, and allow us to do more stuff.
• 54:49
  We have some more updates and I want to ask you guys about the
• 54:51
  Sisters podcast. Can is that something we can
• 54:53
  expect anytime soon? So obviously we've got the
• 54:57
  issues with the studio and we wanted to actually start a
• 55:00
  recording within these weeks, but obviously we've been forced
• 55:05
  out of the studio, so obviously it's been delayed.
• 55:07
  But inshallah, as far as I know it is in the works.
• 55:10
  Yeah, I think so much of us done the graphics and and stuff.
• 55:14
  We knew we were leaving, but we thought we're leaving in around
• 55:17
  September, October. So the plan was to get the
• 55:20
  Sisters podcast recorded in. August, July, or.
• 55:23
  August so that we could release it while we're away.
• 55:26
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was. But because we've been given
• 55:28
  early eviction notice, unfortunately, it's been delayed
• 55:31
  again, yeah. But hopefully by the time you
• 55:34
  guys are watching it, you know there'll be more progress.
• 55:36
  Yeah, in Charlotte and shout out to the sisters because they know
• 55:39
  we've we've kept the way to as. Soon as we get a place where we
• 55:42
  can film yeah in Charlotte, we can push to start.
• 55:45
  Going, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so talk to me about the
• 55:50
  event, the next after Maghub event.
• 55:53
  So the next after Maghub event, inshallah, God willing.
• 55:57
  It's something we're working on now behind the scenes and I
• 56:00
  think we're already looking at different venues around London.
• 56:04
  I think we're going to have an elite line up of people who are
• 56:07
  going to shallow host and be part and feature during the
• 56:10
  aftermath of event for the upcoming year and I I think.
• 56:13
  People should comment who they expect to see.
• 56:15
  Yeah, if if you want to see someone specific, I think do
• 56:18
  comment who you want to and Charlotte we can try to make
• 56:20
  that happen. But I do want to say something
• 56:22
  about this delays and things before I continue about the
• 56:24
  event is that with with every delay, there's hair behind it.
• 56:27
  It's close. Yeah.
• 56:28
  And just like we've been here under a year and I think we
• 56:30
  solve vision this to be our home for the next few years.
• 56:34
  But no, sometimes things don't look out by.
• 56:36
  The way but I took we took today about moving offices and stuff.
• 56:41
  Yeah, the answer from the share. Forgive me this, he said.
• 56:46
  It's good and it serves your religion.
• 56:48
  Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah.
• 56:51
  So God works in mysterious ways. And I and I, and I know I tell
• 56:55
  you the sisters podcast, a lot of people have been asking in
• 56:57
  our DMS. Sometimes I, I, I get asked what's happening with
• 57:01
  sisters podcast with those who are interested assist only
• 57:03
  discussions as sisters. I'm like inshallah's in the in
• 57:06
  the pipeline. Just make dua, honestly, raise
• 57:08
  your hands, make some dua. Inshallah.
• 57:11
  Ask Allah, Subhana to Allah, to allow us to, you know, continue
• 57:14
  this work. Ahmed, I genuinely believe
• 57:16
  Inshallah, we're doing God's work and we can only do this
• 57:19
  with your support. Yeah.
• 57:22
  What, what? What do we need from our
• 57:26
  community to allow us to make things happen?
• 57:29
  From our community, we need first of all their support.
• 57:33
  At least if if at the very least we'd be obviously keeping up
• 57:37
  with our content. But also we have the the
• 57:40
  partnership program on the aftermarket website.
• 57:44
  You can donate as a little as £5 a month I believe it is.
• 57:48
  Is that the minimum? Yeah.
• 57:49
  Well, you can do custom, but obviously we, we at the bare
• 57:52
  minimum we'd appreciate anything per month.
• 57:54
  Yeah, definitely. And we are at the moment a
• 57:56
  completely independent organization and we are
• 58:00
  completely reliant on the donations that are coming in and
• 58:03
  the support from the community. So it's very, very important
• 58:06
  that we we're able to kind of reach out to the community, make
• 58:10
  sure that they are also involved with the project because I'm
• 58:13
  sure that there are a lot of you that do appreciate the work and
• 58:16
  the amount of amazing guests we're able to bring onto the
• 58:19
  podcast. Other shows that we're doing, of
• 58:22
  course, we're starting a new show, the the Sisters podcast
• 58:26
  and maybe other shows as well. And of course the event as well.
• 58:29
  So all of these things do require your support.
• 58:31
  And yeah, you can do that on WWW dot dot com.com forward slash.
• 58:37
  Donate. Donate Yeah.
• 58:39
  There you go. I would say with us potentially
• 58:40
  moving to a bigger space, yeah, we can make amazing programs,
• 58:45
  but it's just it depends on funding.
• 58:47
  Yeah, 100% so. The team is there, but it's just
• 58:50
  it's, it's trying to get it together.
• 58:52
  Depends on your funding, so. Yeah, we we've got.
• 58:55
  Countless ideas that we'd love to do.
• 58:57
  I mean, we're in London and for those around the world, let me
• 59:00
  tell you, London is one of the most expensive cities for,
• 59:03
  especially for commercial spaces.
• 59:05
  And what we need is something quite bespoke.
• 59:07
  So we don't need office space, we need a space which is like
• 59:10
  customisable space where we can hang things up and where we can
• 59:14
  put lighting and sound and all sorts of different things
• 59:16
  around. And of course a lot of storage
• 59:18
  as well. And then you want to have
• 59:20
  different sets. Muhammad Ali's had a show and
• 59:22
  hopefully each other will have one soon.
• 59:24
  And we've got this show. We're going to start the sisters
• 59:26
  show and others. Like we have 3 or 4 different
• 59:28
  show concepts which we haven't even told you guys about Sharla.
• 59:31
  But we can only do that with space and we can only get space
• 59:33
  with your support in Sharla. And as you said, MO, like we're
• 59:37
  completely community fundraise funded and and we fundraise
• 59:40
  through you and we aim to grow through you.
• 59:42
  So we don't have a political or religious group or an
• 59:47
  organization or an office which funds us.
• 59:49
  We don't have any allegiances or agendas in all honesty, our
• 59:54
  nears just to serve Allah called slam and in Charlotte to be able
• 59:59
  to grow in providing the content because we want to become more
• 1:00:02
  than just the Thursday podcast the Friday during our nights we
• 1:00:05
  want it to be. Something which is
• 1:00:07
  transformative for the western shooter community.
• 1:00:09
  We can only do that if you back us and obviously you can buy the
• 1:00:11
  merch. You can see me on wearing the
• 1:00:13
  aftermath and Pudi, which I really like.
• 1:00:15
  My wife tells me don't wear it to work, don't wear it at home.
• 1:00:18
  It's I know it's comfy, but don't overwear it.
• 1:00:20
  I can't really help it sometimes because I love it.
• 1:00:23
  So you guys know what to do? We want to create a home for the
• 1:00:26
  viewers, somewhere where you guys can go to whenever you need
• 1:00:30
  anything. Whether you need to chat someone
• 1:00:32
  you need to watch, something you need to.
• 1:00:34
  It's a place that. We love you so much Voila.
• 1:00:37
  You know, every day we get Adm or a message that makes me
• 1:00:40
  emotional is that pretty much nearly every day Adm or a
• 1:00:44
  message from someone who's either joined you the.
• 1:00:46
  Screenshot of the guy backing us on WhatsApp.
• 1:00:48
  Yeah, yeah. Like anything, it could be
• 1:00:50
  someone who said like, there was a message a few weeks ago, the
• 1:00:52
  sister said that she's watched everything now she's run out of
• 1:00:55
  afternoon. I'm like, how have you been,
• 1:00:57
  like 2-2 hundred episodes? Have you?
• 1:00:59
  It's like, yeah. And I've binged all of it.
• 1:01:01
  Like I've watched every single. So I'm like, wow, like
• 1:01:03
  Subhanallah and Charlotte, people are benefiting.
• 1:01:05
  I had a friend call me a couple of days ago and I prefer when
• 1:01:08
  people are honest with me. He's like, yeah, you know, like
• 1:01:10
  I only started really watching it this year.
• 1:01:12
  He's like, but the quality is really good.
• 1:01:14
  And he goes, I, I, I love watching it and I, I'm glad that
• 1:01:17
  obviously every episode's very different.
• 1:01:19
  And if you look at the last two months, even since the start of
• 1:01:22
  Muharram, obviously we start Muharram, the three of us and
• 1:01:24
  Charlotte, we're ending the season with three of us as well.
• 1:01:26
  But in that time in between, we've had Ida Bar, we've had
• 1:01:29
  friends, we've had, you know, creatives, we've had youth
• 1:01:33
  speakers, we've had different people on who've been able to to
• 1:01:36
  kind of bring their own perspective.
• 1:01:38
  Well, in many ways, it's a blessing to be pop off the
• 1:01:40
  mother. I'll be very honest.
• 1:01:42
  I need, I need. You don't just to like meet and
• 1:01:45
  interact with like knowledgeable guests and.
• 1:01:47
  And it's the biggest. Have spiritual growth.
• 1:01:51
  No, it's it's it's like you feel like this is your this is the
• 1:01:54
  way you belong, bro. Like we just you have the
• 1:01:57
  Islamic discussions. You talk about the Earl bait and
• 1:02:00
  you you like you encourage people to go Ziara like this
• 1:02:03
  episode, for example. This is what we're all about
• 1:02:05
  Yanni and Charlotte. And I really ask a lot of final
• 1:02:07
  Atala that he allows people to. How can I say?
• 1:02:11
  Yeah, Charlotte, as brother Muhammad mentioned earlier on,
• 1:02:15
  become a partner. Don't think twice, Don't think
• 1:02:17
  three times, don't think 10 times.
• 1:02:18
  And look, if you can't become a partner, if you can't support us
• 1:02:20
  financially, maybe ask your brother, ask your sister, ask
• 1:02:24
  your uncle, ask your friend, send a WhatsApp to your to your
• 1:02:26
  best friend, to your BFF. Or just say, look, there's,
• 1:02:29
  there's brothers who inshallah are doing God's work.
• 1:02:32
  I'm going to say this 100 times because I truly believe it.
• 1:02:35
  If I didn't believe it's God's work, I'll go home.
• 1:02:36
  Now, what am I doing here week in, week out?
• 1:02:38
  Ahmed, let's be honest. I'm Ham.
• 1:02:40
  Yeah. This takes a lot of our time.
• 1:02:41
  It takes a lot of our energy. It takes a lot of research.
• 1:02:45
  It takes so much manpower goes behind.
• 1:02:48
  And it's not just us. There's a team behind us.
• 1:02:49
  There's volunteers. So there's a lot of things that
• 1:02:52
  happen here. And if if we didn't believe in
• 1:02:54
  the cause, in this message and what we're doing, propagating
• 1:02:56
  the teachings of that debate. Ali Hamou Salaam, why are we
• 1:02:59
  here? At the end of the day, we're
• 1:03:00
  here for you. We're here for us and the
• 1:03:01
  shallow on this journey together.
• 1:03:03
  So please visit aftermathof.com, forward slash donate and
• 1:03:06
  consider because. I realise I didn't shout out
• 1:03:07
  Daniel Waliel. Shout, Daniel.
• 1:03:08
  Yeah, from Daniel, Absolutely. Yeah.
• 1:03:10
  What's the new mom brother Hamid Zahidi say?
• 1:03:12
  I'm Hamid also. I, I just wanted to also say
• 1:03:16
  that I hope that the viewers have benefited from the
• 1:03:19
  Jumanites Q&A series that we had.
• 1:03:22
  I think we loved it, might have had the last episode by now, or
• 1:03:26
  maybe it might be next week. I'm not sure.
• 1:03:28
  I can't remember my calculations but.
• 1:03:30
  So Ali, what was your favorite episode from Jumanites Q&A?
• 1:03:33
  The shorter one. OK, that to be fair, that was
• 1:03:36
  probably. The one was the most
• 1:03:38
  contentious. Because it was like it's a
• 1:03:40
  question people ask year in year round, right?
• 1:03:42
  And and is this question has been, I think in discussion
• 1:03:46
  circles between friends and communities for like I think in
• 1:03:48
  the last 5-6 years. And I'll be honest because sure
• 1:03:51
  is only growing I can see. Growing it something you hear a
• 1:03:53
  lot in Arbine. Yeah, yeah, and and for those
• 1:03:56
  who who will be there in Arbine, you'll wouldn't assure happening
• 1:03:58
  in the Milwaukee and places. So you gave a lot of clarity to
• 1:04:01
  it, Hamdallah. Yeah, Hamdallah, Yeah.
• 1:04:03
  What about yourself? What was your favorite?
• 1:04:04
  I put on the spot bro. But no I think from like an
• 1:04:07
  academic level. I think the abufathered one says
• 1:04:10
  Father Abbas Ali Salah to Islam Allah amazing.
• 1:04:12
  I think that was my. Favorite suit to?
• 1:04:14
  Be I like obviously I asked a question about Sahara, Sahara 1.
• 1:04:17
  I I at the point of recording hasn't come out yet if I'm not
• 1:04:20
  saying, but I'm looking forward to hearing that and also the
• 1:04:24
  Taklid one as well. Yeah, so which is great and
• 1:04:27
  shorter. Jaime's was great.
• 1:04:29
  Shorter was great. I know my stuff, bro exactly.
• 1:04:31
  I know my stuff. What did we?
• 1:04:32
  Do last week was beneficial. In last week I did, yeah.
• 1:04:35
  So anyway guys, OK, now that's. The good, yeah.
• 1:04:39
  Yeah, I thought that was a beneficial series of I know it
• 1:04:42
  was at 50, but this was like just to kind of patch up some
• 1:04:46
  things that weren't spoken about during Jamal nights.
• 1:04:49
  Obviously, I always call it like a, a short course on, on
• 1:04:52
  theology, like to give you a taste of a taste of everything
• 1:04:55
  in, in Al Qaeda. And I think something like Raja
• 1:04:59
  was so important to speak about during German nights, which I
• 1:05:02
  didn't. So I think if not anything else,
• 1:05:05
  that episode was very, very important to the playlist in
• 1:05:08
  general. So I'll happen to that.
• 1:05:10
  And of course, like you said, we do plan to do another show,
• 1:05:13
  obviously. Charlotte gives us the
• 1:05:16
  opportunity, yeah. And Charlotte, the next event,
• 1:05:18
  we won't be hosting the first podcast as a Germanites podcast,
• 1:05:23
  but as the new show's name. Allah, Allah.
• 1:05:26
  Allah, that's the plan. Thursday morning.
• 1:05:30
  Thursday winning. OK guys, for the very last time
• 1:05:34
  of the season, yeah, we're going to miss you guys.
• 1:05:37
  We are going to be putting fuller content, part fuller
• 1:05:39
  content up on Instagram, on YouTube bits and pieces of
• 1:05:42
  previous weeks. We started doing it and I hope
• 1:05:44
  you guys are enjoying it, but just.
• 1:05:46
  Snippets One special episode we're planning of.
• 1:05:49
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:50
  Hopefully we're gonna do some exclusive stuff.
• 1:05:52
  Need a lot of work. And Charlotte, if it happens,
• 1:05:54
  it'll. Come at some point.
• 1:05:56
  Charlotte, that's very, very special.
• 1:05:58
  But we will, but we will regard this on the on the aftermarket
• 1:06:01
  of YouTube page be posting like snippets of clips over the last
• 1:06:05
  150 episodes. And you know, I doubt most
• 1:06:08
  people have seen every part of every episode, but there's some
• 1:06:11
  real gems over the years which you've been able to record with
• 1:06:13
  amazing guests. So we're going to start putting
• 1:06:15
  weekly snippets up. You've probably seen a few of
• 1:06:17
  them already. If you haven't, check out the
• 1:06:18
  clips playlist on YouTube. And of course, follow us on
• 1:06:22
  TikTok and Instagram and make sure you subscribe.
• 1:06:25
  We've actually passed 1 million views on Instagram.
• 1:06:27
  This part, this Maharam. Yeah, handed that, it should be
• 1:06:30
  more. I think it was more anyway.
• 1:06:32
  And guys, make sure you also stay tuned.
• 1:06:35
  We'll be back hopefully in the next few weeks and see you then.
• 1:06:40
  Take care, brothers. Salaam alaikum.