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Episode 19: 87th Academy Awards. Movies from 2014. · Death by Multimedia

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  Music. Good day everybody out there in
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  podcast land. And no, this is not a drill.
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  This is not a joke. This is actually the next
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  episode of Helen and Bill's excellent movie Adventures.
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  And yes, I do realize that the last episode was released in the
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  first week of October, and this episode is being released in the
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  first week of March. So only five months has it taken
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  us to get around to doing this episode.
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  And joining me, as always, is the lovely Helen.
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  Thank you for coming to us and joining us today.
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  Lovely Helen. Thank you, Bill.
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  And I'm going to blame our lovely summer on the reason for
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  the lateness of this episode. It's been it's just been too
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  lovely to be inside watching movies, hasn't it?
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  Well, I don't know that it has. It's been more that other things
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  have been watched as well, haven't they?
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  Actually, there was the Winter Olympics.
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  There were Christmas movies, although we didn't watch that
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  many of them this year. I don't know what have we been
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  doing? Australian Open tennis.
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  Ah yes, Stranger things some. Of us went to the cricket.
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  Cricket. Cricket, not others.
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  No, but on the whiteboard in front of us, the date that this
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  episode was supposed to come out was the 29th of October.
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  So we are a little late. I do remind Bill though that
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  this is a fun hobby. No, that's.
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  Without schedule. Is that right?
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  That's but you're not running the podcast.
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  Oh, therefore it's not fun, Is that what you're saying?
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  I'm saying it's supposed to be fun, but also to a.
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  Schedule, Oh my Lord. Being on time.
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  It's not about just doing it when it takes your fancy.
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  There are listeners out there who have been waiting, probably
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  not patiently, for this next episode to come out.
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  Oh, they've forgotten we exist by now.
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  It's all. Right.
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  This is also part of the problem.
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  We might have lost every single listener that we have, and no
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  one is left out there to hear about the wonderful movies that
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  were made in 2014. It's all right, those 5 will
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  come back. No, I can't.
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  I don't know who there are that many.
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  All right, well, without any further ado, let's get beyond
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  this little break here and get stuck into the episode.
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  Right on. So believe it or not, all those
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  months ago, yeah, we had some listener feedback.
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  One of my big things for starting with this episode was
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  going to be getting listener feedback, and we got some, and
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  that listener now probably will never listen to us again.
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  Who was the listener? It was the lovely Matt from
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  Kansas City. Hi, Matt.
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  And Matt did say a long time ago, hey Bill and Helen, yes,
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  there were some excellent movies from that year, which was 2013,
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  not 1865, which is how long ago it seems.
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  I agree about the movie Her. Do you remember the movie Her?
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  Remind me? Matt says.
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  I remember the movie. Her may be an interesting
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  concept, but not much really captivating about it.
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  Who was in it? That was the one that had the AI
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  and the guy who fell in love with the.
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  AI Oh yes, that was disturbing, yeah.
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  That that you would fall in love with a machine basically.
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  And and that's currently happening.
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  Yeah. OK, thanks, Matt.
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  Thanks for your feedback. And I understand what you mean
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  about Tom Hanks. Bosom Buddies is always the
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  first thing that comes to mind and it took the longest of times
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  to really appreciate him as an actor.
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  Yeah, yeah. Excellent recount.
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  Thanks, guys. So if Matt ever does listen to
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  us again, he will hear that we have thanked him for his
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  feedback. And so we do encourage anybody
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  who is still listening to this program to offer some feedback.
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  I will put in the show notes the usual places to get in contact
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  with us. Most of you who do listen to us
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  do know where most of my contacts are anyway.
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  All right. And the last episode that we did
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  back a million years ago, we did have two deaths that we spoke
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  about that were people who we admired greatly, those being
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  David Stratton and Robert Redford.
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  Well, we've had a couple of more, have we?
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  Given it's five months, I'm surprised there isn't more than
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  what we've actually got. But of course, we've just
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  recently had Catherine O'Hara, who's passed away.
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  She passed away on January 30, aged 71, from a pulmonary
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  embolism due to colon cancer. Oh really?
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  That's. Not much good going on there.
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  Excellent funny lady. Yes, so she started off in SCTV.
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  For those in America who got to watch this show with John Candy,
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  Eugene Levy, Martin Short, She's probably best known as Delia
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  Dietz in Beetlejuice. No, I I disagree.
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  Oh. I'm finished.
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  I was looking at you to confirm that you knew that she was in
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  Beetlejuice. Yes.
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  Do you remember her in? Beetlejuice.
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  No, you've got some funny things going on with your appreciation
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  of great movies as Kate McAllister in the Home Alone
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  film. There you go, that's the one.
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  There you go. What about the four Christopher
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  Guest films that she starred in? Yes, Waiting for Guffman, Best
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  in Show, A Mighty Wind, and For Your Consideration.
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  Yes, some of her best work there.
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  Yes, and the performance that she had with Eugene Levy in
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  Shit's Creek. No, no, no.
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  You're jumping the gun again. What I think you're pausing to
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  let me say it I. Hadn't even paused.
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  If you think that's what are you doing to me, have a drink of red
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  wine, OK? I'll do that.
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  I'll do that. The performance of A Kiss at the
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  End of the Rainbow with Eugene Levy in A Mighty Wind has got
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  that nominated for an Academy Award for Best Song.
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  That was beautiful. Which wasn't written by them,
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  but they performed it and then they performed it at the Academy
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  Awards and it was fantastic. A career defining role as Moira.
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  Rose, Helen. In shit's Greek.
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  There we go opposite. Eugene Levy, There you go with
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  Eugene's son. Yes.
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  Yes, David Levy. David.
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  Well, that's actually his character's David anyway, let's
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  not go there. Sorry.
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  Yes So anyway, shit's Creek, which anyone who has watched six
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  seasons, fabulous show and she was absolutely amazing in that
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  they all were. But her performance was just
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  absolutely. Incredible it.
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  Was and recently she's also been very highly regarded in two
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  other series. The studio, which has been on
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  Apple TV, is. She in that she is with is it a
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  Josh Seth Rogen? Seth Rogen, Are they brothers?
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  No. Oh, it's spelled differently.
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  I think Josh Rogen is. Oh, I maybe, maybe, I think.
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  He made him up. Maybe he's got a brother called
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  Josh. You are.
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  Just making stuff up now. The the people won't take you
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  seriously if you if you're going to, should we?
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  Start this again. And also in the second series of
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  The Last of Us, she was also, Oh, really?
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  Yes. So anyway, she's passed away,
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  which is very sad. And at the age of 71, as I said,
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  which is in this day and age, far too young.
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  Yeah. The other person who only just
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  recently passed away was Robert Duvall, who passed away on
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  February 15, aged 95. He made his first appearance on
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  stage in 1952. And he was an accomplished stage
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  actor before he even got into movies and things like that.
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  He first appeared, as I said, on stage 52.
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  His first TV appearance was in 1959.
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  And he appeared in every great TV series for 20 years, like in
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  episodes like Mission Impossible, Twilight Zone, Out
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  of Limits, all those shows. He made appearances.
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  In 1962, he made his movie debut.
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  Do you know what that was? No.
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  If I said the name Boo Radley, would that come to?
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  Yeah, yeah. To kill.
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  A Mockingbird? I could see the cover of the
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  book, yes. That was his first movie role
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  really To Kill a Mockingbird. So it's pretty hard to go above
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  that from the way he played that character as well and in the way
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  that movie was. So then from there he starred in
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  films like Bullet with Steve McQueen and True Grit with John
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  Wayne, and he starred as Lucky Ned Pepper in that.
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  And of course, he was in the final shootout with Rooster
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  Cogburn in that film and did it very well.
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  Just makes you think of all the stand out people that he met in
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  his lifetime. Too Absolutely just.
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  Listing those things he's been in.
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  Well, and not only that, the fact that he was so highly
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  regarded by them, Yeah, when you read all the, all the things
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  that have been written about him in the last couple of weeks,
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  it's, it's amazing. I'm only just learning now that
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  he passed away. Well, let's talk about other
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  films that he was in, such as in the original MASH as Frank Burns
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  in the movie. Yes, she was fabulous in the
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  amazing role of Tom Hagen in the Godfathers One and two, where he
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  was nominated for Academy Awards and probably should have won
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  them. The Eagle has landed.
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  He was magnificent in that and of course in Apocalypse Now in
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  these, one of his most famous roles with one of his most
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  famous lines. I love the smell of knee palm in
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  the morning. That was him.
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  Yeah, just an amazing role and an amazing speech that he gives
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  in that in that movie as well. He then appeared in Network, The
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  Natural Colours, Tender Mercies and in Tender Mercies he was
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  playing a a broken down sort of country singer and he insisted
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  on doing his own singing in that.
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  Wow. He just said he wouldn't do the
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  role unless he was allowed to be the person who was doing it.
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  One of his best known roles was in Lonesome Dove, the the
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  miniseries where he was just absolutely fantastic.
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  He appeared in Falling Down, Phenomenon, Sling Blade, Deep
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  Impact, the list is just goes on and on.
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  So he was nominated for best supporting actor four times and
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  did not win for any of them. It was in the Godfather,
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  Apocalypse Now, a civil action, and most recently the judge.
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  He was nominated for best actor three times in the Great
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  Santini, the apostle, and he won his only Academy Award for
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  Tender mercies. OK, so yes, another terrific.
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  And what a career. Absolutely amazing.
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  Yeah. And he hasn't acted for quite
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  some time now, but yeah, it was quite an A career.
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  And we've ended just today too, that for Australian audiences
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  who will know who. Lorraine Bailey passed away
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  today, did she? At the age of 82, I think.
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  Mrs. Gilroy Shirley. Yes, Shirley.
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  No, no, no, no, no, no. You're the Sullivans.
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  Oh OK, Sorry everyone. Sullivan's and Carson's law, It
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  doesn't matter unless you're Australian.
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  No one knows who she is. She's quite or.
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  She's been to the one I was thinking.
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  Yes, sorry. But she's also in Man from Snowy
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  River, of course, and many other great roles.
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  And most importantly, she was one of the originals on
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  Playschool and hosted Playschool for about 20 years.
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  Yeah. And so when you're growing up in
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  Australia and you'd watch Playschool and look through the
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  round window or the square window, talk to Big Ted.
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  And Lorraine Bailey was one of the hosts there and she was
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  fantastic. So there you go, there's three
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  people. It's probably more, but it's
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  been so long. People just keep dying, waiting
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  for us to do the next episode. They fell over.
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  Do you want to get on with it? Yes.
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  Really. OK, well let's talk about our
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  first film today. Our first film that we watched a
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  very long time ago was American Sniper.
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  An American Sniper is a 2014 American biographical war drama
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  film directed and Co produced by Clint Eastwood and written and
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  executive produced by Jason Hall, based on the memoir of the
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  same name by Chris Kyle with Scott McEwen and Jim De Phyllis
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  De Felice. Try Jim De Felice.
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  Let's go with that. Who cares?
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  The film follows the life of Kyle, who became the deadliest
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  marksman in the US military history with 255 kills from 4
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  tours in the Iraq War, 160 of which were officially confirmed
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  by the Department of Defence. While Kyle was celebrated for
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  his military successes, his tours of duty took a heavy toll
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  on his personal and family life. It stars Bradley Cooper as Kyle
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  and Sienna Miller as his wife Taya, with Luke Grimes, Jacob
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  Mcdorman and Corey Hedrick in supporting roles.
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  Helen, tell us all about American Sniper.
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  It was OK. The only interesting thing for
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  me was that it was based on a real person and that real person
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  lived through all of that and, and was that talented at his
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  job, too? It was, it was very patriotic.
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  And yeah, Bradley Cooper was great.
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  He was good. But it didn't, the story didn't
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  really lift for me anywhere. Like I didn't relate to it or it
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  wasn't insightful in, you know, anything other than other sorts
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  of Iraq war movies that we've seen.
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  And I was tense throughout it too.
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  Like it. It had that feeling.
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  But yeah, I just thought it was OK.
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  What about you? It was too long.
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  It was way too long. It was over 2 hours.
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  I'm not exactly how long it was, but I know that watching it, it
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  felt like it was a lot longer. It did tend to drag and you're
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  exactly right in that is heavy subject matter, but it didn't
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  have the same ability to retain your interest like Zero Dark 30
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  did or The Hurt Locker did. I mean, those were two amazing
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  films. This one just didn't quite have
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  that same thing, which given that Clint Eastwood.
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  Director, I know. He's amazing, really.
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  Yeah, you expect more from the magical space.
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  Not everyone can't have brilliant films all the time,
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  but. It wasn't subtle like his films.
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  Usually, no, but it was based on a book written by him.
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  Yeah. Well, that's right.
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  And the true story aspect gets stretched, especially as a
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  number of the stories he had in his autobiography had been
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  questioned by people over that time, so that they believe that
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  he's actually stretched the truth himself when he was
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  writing his autobiography. So, but his story is incredible.
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  And the toll it obviously took in his home life was something
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  that perhaps could have been explored more intensely rather
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  than just the ongoing parts of his tours of Iraq.
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  I mean, the parts at home were only really touched upon in
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  little bits and pieces that he'd come home, he'd have a bit of
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  trouble, and suddenly he was back in Iraq because he just
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  said, I'm going again because I don't know what to do with
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  myself. So I don't know, maybe it needed
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  more of that. I'm not really sure I can see
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  why the story looked like a good movie in the making, but as I
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  said, compared to those other two more recent real life films
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  from Wars, this one doesn't stand up as well.
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  I agree. What do you give it?
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  I gave it three stars. It was still a good film.
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  Yeah, I gave it 3 as well. That was the best I could do for
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  it. So for anyone in Australia,
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  again, given the time period since we've watched it, this may
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  well not be true. We streamed this on Amazon
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  Prime. It was nominated for six Academy
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  Awards, and it won one. It was nominated, obviously, for
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  Best Picture, Best Actor for Bradley Cooper, which sort of
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  surprised me. Best adapted screenplay for
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  Jason Hall, Best Film Editing, Best Sound Editing and Best
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  Sound Mixing. And it won for Best Sound
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  Editing. OK, Yeah.
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  Our next film is The Grand Budapest Hotel and The Grand
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  Budapest Hotel is a 2014 comedy drama film written and directed
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  by Wes Anderson. The film's 17 act ensemble cast
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  is led by Ray Fiennes as Monsieur Gustav H, famed
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  concierge of a 20th century mountainside resort in the
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  fictional country of Zubrovska. After being framed for the
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  murder of a wealthy Dowager played by Tilda Swinton, he and
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  his recently befriended protege 0 Tony Ravalori embark on a
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  quest for fortune and a priceless Renaissance painting
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  amidst the backdrop of an encroaching fascist regime.
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  I forgot here, sorry, that Anderson and longtime
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  collaborator Hugo Guinness conceived The Grand Budapest
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  Hotel as a fragmented tale following a character inspired
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  by a mutual friend. They initially struggled in
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  brainstorming, but the experience touring Europe and
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  researching the literature of Austrian novelist Stefan Zwig
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  helped create their vision for the film.
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  Helen, tell us all about The Grand Budapest Hotel.
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  It's wacky. You have to wait till I finish.
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  It's weird. It's wonderful.
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  Like, really divergent, hilarious characters and
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  divergent storylines, all very cleverly woven together to make
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  a very funny story. So yeah, where's Anderson's
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  amazing in doing that? Weird.
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  Yeah. And all all the visual stuff
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  that he creates to all the colour and the madness.
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  And when you first see a film or something by him, you're just
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  like a bit lost in it all. But it all makes sense.
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  And the hairstyles I know, but all the characters have all the
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  time. Yeah, it's kind of a bit Baz
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  Luhrmann esque, but toned down slightly and and the characters
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  aren't as two-dimensional, I guess as they are in Baz
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  Luhrmann things. That's my opinion anyway.
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  And so many stars in it. I think I looked up there were
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  like 17 credited actors or something.
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  Yeah, 17. They were all so good, and it's
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  a refreshingly unpredictable storyline, part comedy, part
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  murder mystery, part hallucinatory.
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  Yeah, it's very enjoyable to watch, and I think I've already
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  seen it three times, but I could watch it again.
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  What about you? Yeah, I enjoyed this remarkably
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  when we first watched it when it first came in, and I was really
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  looking forward to seeing it again because I've only seen it
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  once before this. It was funny that on this
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  viewing, initially, it didn't really didn't catch me the same
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  way as I as it was when I when I watched it the first time, I, I,
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  I remembered it as being even more brilliant and grandiose
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  than it was when I actually watched it this time.
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  And I think whiz Anderson films are films that you have to be in
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  the right mood to watch and enjoy.
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  And perhaps that's part of what happened on this occasion
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  watching it. But for whatever reason I I
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  didn't quite catch me the same way as the first time even, but
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  I still enjoyed it. The crafting of the story around
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  Wes Anderson's way of filming stories is amazing and as you
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  say, the dotting of excellent actors to play little bit parts.
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  And the willingness of these massive actors to play these
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  little weird bit parts, yeah. And it's all a part of it's
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  charm. Yeah.
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  I love the fraternity of concierges known as the Society
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  of the Crossed Keys. And I thought that was really
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  wonderful how they try to prove Gustav's innocence at killing
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  his benefactor. But yeah, Bill Murray, Owen
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  Wilson, we're both a part of that.
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  Harvey Keitel as the leader of the prison break, Jeff Goldblum
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  as as Madam Dee's lawyer and of course, Madam Dee herself was
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  till the swinger Ray finds is just beautifully cast.
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  He's so good in this role and and the acting of goods of he's
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  he's acting of Gustav is perfect.
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  And I don't understand how he wasn't nominated for this role.
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  It just seems ridiculous given Bradley Cooper was nominated.
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  Yeah, it wasn't for this. You can't compare that really.
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  It just doesn't work for me. Tony Rivolari 0 was also
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  terrific. And William Defoe is a hitman.
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  Just fantastic, as he always is in those.
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  I think he just had, he looked like he had so much fun.
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  Yeah. It's still just a lovely story.
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  And if you are, if you're compliant with Wesley Anderson's
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  methods, it's really still an enjoyable movie to watch, and it
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  reminded me so much of what he's done since then, especially when
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  he did his little short Roald Dahl stories that were out a
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  few. Years ago, I'd forgotten.
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  Most of these same actors were all involved in it, but Benedict
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  Cumberbatch was as well. And it was, yeah, his stuff is
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  sometimes a bit hard to watch, I think, or try to actually know
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  how to watch it. But you've just got to watch the
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  actors and the performers and see how much they're enjoying
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  being in the movie and being in their roles, and I think that's
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  what helps make it so much more enjoyable.
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  Well, we've never watched the Royal Tenenbaums, have we?
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  No, we should watch that. Oh, no, we did.
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  We did a long time ago though, yeah.
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  Yeah, I don't really remember it.
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  Yeah, that was a long time. I want to see that.
• 22:17
  And someone recently told me a more recent film of his Asteroid
• 22:21
  City. Yes, you haven't.
• 22:22
  Really seen that? Yeah, I want to see that.
• 22:24
  Yeah. What did you give this?
• 22:26
  I gave it 4 1/2. I gave it four.
• 22:28
  Yeah, I think I probably went into it thinking it was a 4 1/2
• 22:32
  star film. And this time I watched it and I
• 22:34
  thought, yeah, it was 4. So we watched this on Disney
• 22:37
  Plus. I'm sure it's still out there.
• 22:39
  If you're interested. It was nominated for 9 Academy
• 22:42
  Awards and it won four. So it was a nominated for best
• 22:45
  film, best director for Wes Anderson, best screenplay for
• 22:48
  Wes Anderson, best original screenplay, best cinematography
• 22:52
  and best film editing, and one for best costume design, best
• 22:56
  makeup and hair styling. What a surprise.
• 22:59
  Best original score and best production design.
• 23:02
  So all of those great things. Our third film is The Imitation
• 23:14
  Game, and The Imitation Game is a 2014 American biographical
• 23:18
  thriller film directed by Morton Tilden and written by Graham
• 23:22
  Moore, based on the 1983 biography Alan Turing, The
• 23:26
  Enigma by Andrew Hodges. The film's title quotes the name
• 23:30
  of the game cryptanalysis. Alan Turing proposed for his
• 23:35
  answering the question Can machines think?
• 23:38
  In his 1950 Seminole paper Computing Machinery and
• 23:43
  Intelligence. The film stars Benedict
• 23:45
  Cumberbatch as Turing, who decrypted German intelligence
• 23:48
  messages for the British government during World War 2.
• 23:51
  Keira Knightley, Matthew Good, Rory Kinnear, Charles Dance, and
• 23:56
  Mark Strong appear in supporting roles.
• 23:59
  The film received critical acclaim but faced significant
• 24:02
  criticism for its historical inaccuracies, including
• 24:06
  depicting several events that had never taken place in.
• 24:09
  Real life, I guess that's artistic license.
• 24:13
  Apparently so. Tell us all about The Imitation
• 24:17
  Game. It's excellent.
• 24:19
  I think it's one of the best we've seen.
• 24:22
  Benedict is wonderful, the wartime code breaking story is
• 24:27
  compelling, and the personal life of Alan Turing is
• 24:30
  fascinating and tragic. For me, this is a standout
• 24:33
  because of the way it honestly but gently handles Alan Turing's
• 24:38
  obsessive personality and how his differentness was shunned by
• 24:43
  most at the time. I'm assuming that's fairly
• 24:46
  accurate, but that the world should be grateful for his
• 24:49
  contribution to science and others like him, because without
• 24:52
  him our existence would be very different.
• 24:54
  I think that's a really good message in it, and it's handled
• 24:56
  very well in the film. If you haven't seen it, this is
• 25:00
  the one you should watch, I think from the 2014 Academy
• 25:03
  Awards. Be cool, Yes, as a film, just as
• 25:10
  a film, this is entertaining and informative and it's it's a,
• 25:14
  it's a really great watch. Benedict is always a pleasure to
• 25:17
  watch. Kira played herself again.
• 25:21
  Basically, it has different levels of stress and anxiety
• 25:25
  throughout as relationships between those involved had to
• 25:27
  grow and come together. And the machine failed time and
• 25:31
  again before midnight before they finally got their ultimate
• 25:34
  breakthrough. So all of that played very
• 25:36
  nicely within the actual plot of the film in an exercise in
• 25:41
  holding the truth, as has been said in the introduction here.
• 25:45
  Then there's a lot of stretches, there's a lot of additions and
• 25:47
  subtractions. It made me interesting, made me
• 25:51
  interested in tracking down the true story of the time, which is
• 25:54
  what I did. And I think that is a role that
• 25:59
  these films play. I mean, all of these films, I
• 26:03
  think there's four of these eight are based on true life
• 26:05
  stories. So to make a film out of a true
• 26:09
  life story, just by following what actually occurred,
• 26:14
  sometimes the filmmaker themselves will think this isn't
• 26:17
  interesting enough for people to come and make them come and see
• 26:19
  our film and spend their dollars.
• 26:21
  So we need to add something in or we need to do something
• 26:23
  different with it. And I can accept that to a
• 26:27
  certain point. So in watching this film as a
• 26:30
  film, yes, it's terrific. But the fact is, when you go
• 26:32
  back and you read about the time, about Alan sharing
• 26:35
  himself, about everybody else who was involved in the project,
• 26:40
  it is fairly different. Which?
• 26:42
  Is it? Which to me in after having
• 26:46
  watched the film, makes me less inclined to like the film
• 26:50
  because there's too many, too much stuff that's different.
• 26:53
  I mean, you you'd have been better off just doing a
• 26:56
  fictional film based on that rather than saying this is a
• 27:00
  film about Alan shearing and what he did.
• 27:03
  But that's just me. So are you saying that a lot of
• 27:06
  it, it wasn't mainly his brain and well, his, his obsessiveness
• 27:12
  that got this thing done? Well, he was a part of it, yeah,
• 27:15
  but they have actually said that it wasn't just him.
• 27:17
  I know it was everybody else around them who are equally as
• 27:20
  important as he was. Whereas the film does more or
• 27:23
  less push the fact that it looks like that it's he who is the
• 27:26
  main guy. He's the central character,
• 27:28
  central figure. Correct.
• 27:30
  Yeah. So they make him the central
• 27:32
  figure. Whereas people who have
• 27:35
  criticised the accuracy of the film are obviously people who
• 27:37
  are either family or knew the people, other people at the time
• 27:40
  and they felt that they were unfairly.
• 27:43
  Overlooked. And even the guy who was who
• 27:46
  came, who was found to be a spy. Yeah.
• 27:49
  They already knew that he was a spy well before, and he was.
• 27:54
  They were feeding him information to give to the
• 27:56
  Russians, apparently. Just to test the theory or false
• 27:59
  information. False information.
• 28:01
  They said that they and when they said that they finally
• 28:03
  cracked the code and they found that this boat was going to get
• 28:07
  bombed that night and whatever and they couldn't do it because
• 28:10
  this guy's, you know, relatives were on it.
• 28:13
  That didn't happen. None of that happened.
• 28:15
  Ah yeah, that was important for the plot though, wasn't it?
• 28:18
  No. So that it all came to a.
• 28:19
  Head but it made it exciting in the film yeah, but again had
• 28:22
  nothing and they said that you know that the decisions on what
• 28:26
  information they give was not made by those people who were in
• 28:28
  that thing it was made way higher up so they they passed on
• 28:32
  the information and then anything done after that so
• 28:35
  where it was made they were the ones who were going to be
• 28:37
  important in not only discovering what was said but
• 28:41
  then making decisions as to whether they should tell certain
• 28:44
  people that it's going to happen.
• 28:46
  Oh. Now you've spoilt it.
• 28:48
  There you go, unlucky. As you said, and as I've said
• 28:51
  here too, you watch the film for being a film and then if you're
• 28:55
  interested enough in it, you go and research it and you know
• 28:58
  what actually happened. That doesn't necessarily take
• 29:00
  away from how good the film is and and the story of the film,
• 29:04
  but come up at the start and say this is based on true events.
• 29:08
  And if someone says at the start of the film, then at least I
• 29:10
  know well, not everything I'm going to watch is true.
• 29:12
  They don't make that clear when you're watching the film.
• 29:15
  They're more or less saying this is what it is, that that's what
• 29:19
  slightly annoys me about those kind of films.
• 29:21
  OK. What did you give it?
• 29:23
  Oh, hang on. Oh, I thought you that's where
• 29:25
  you were. Leading to pushing me again
• 29:27
  you're good at this just let me let me get my stuff out it's.
• 29:30
  Been working for 33 years. Bill, God.
• 29:33
  It's been 35. But anyway, it's 33.
• 29:35
  Married 35 together. No, I'm completely lost my spot
• 29:40
  now. Anyway, let's move on then, OK,
• 29:42
  I'll I gave it four stars, darling.
• 29:44
  Well, we had digressed, hadn't we?
• 29:46
  How many? Sorry, Four.
• 29:48
  Yes, I gave it 4 1/2. Yeah, I know.
• 29:50
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, so anyway, we streamed
• 29:54
  this on Stan in Australia. It was nominated for eight
• 29:58
  Academy Awards, but only won one.
• 30:00
  It was nominated for Best picture, best director for
• 30:03
  Morton Tilden, Best actor for Benedict Cumberbatch, Best
• 30:07
  supporting actress for Keira Knightley.
• 30:08
  I don't know how. Best film editing, Best original
• 30:12
  score, best production design. And it won for best adapted
• 30:16
  screenplay for Graham Moore. OK.
• 30:19
  Which is interesting given that there are certain untruths who
• 30:22
  are sitting here. So how do you work that out?
• 30:25
  Academy, get going. Maybe they don't do your sort of
• 30:29
  research. Obviously not.
• 30:38
  Our next film is Birdman or The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance
• 30:44
  and this is a 2/20/14 obviously Bill American satirical
• 30:50
  surrealist black comedy drama film directed by Alessandro
• 30:54
  Gonzalez Inaratu. Sorry, can't quite get my
• 30:59
  pronunciations correct and I'm sure anyone who is Spanish
• 31:02
  listening to this will be having a go at me immediately and say
• 31:05
  they should. The film stars Michael Keaton as
• 31:08
  a washed up Hollywood actor best known for playing a superhero
• 31:11
  named Birdman, and follows the struggle he faces while trying
• 31:15
  to make a comeback by writing, directing and starring in a
• 31:17
  Broadway adaption of Raymond Carver's short story What We
• 31:21
  Talk About When We Talk About Love.
• 31:24
  The film's supporting cast includes Zach Galifianakis,
• 31:28
  Edward Norton, Andrea Riseborough, Amy Ryan, Emma
• 31:32
  Stone and Naomi Watts. With a brief exception, Birdman
• 31:37
  is presented as though it was filmed in one continuous take,
• 31:41
  an idea that was had from the film's conception
• 31:44
  cinematographer. Sorry.
• 31:46
  The cinematographer believed that the recording time
• 31:48
  necessary for the long take approach could not have been
• 31:51
  made with all the technology. And yes, it did feel as though
• 31:56
  it was all filmed in one time, didn't it?
• 31:58
  Yes. So anyway, Helen, tell us all
• 32:00
  about Birdman. Well, it was so tense, constant
• 32:05
  scatty drumming in the background, chaotic characters,
• 32:10
  chaotic storyline. Would you call it a black
• 32:14
  comedy? I feel like it could have been,
• 32:17
  yeah. It's a harsh look at the life of
• 32:19
  actors and the acting world that reflects on the emptiness of all
• 32:23
  the actors in capes. You know what I'm talking about?
• 32:25
  Those actors who play people in capes acting out cartoon book
• 32:30
  characters and the masses watching it and not being
• 32:33
  interested in worthwhile movies that talk a lot and reflect on
• 32:39
  life. That's what it was saying to me.
• 32:42
  It's asking what is the point of it all and what's its other name
• 32:47
  other than Birdman? What did you say it's called?
• 32:50
  You mean it's extra? The virtue of.
• 32:52
  Unexpected virtue of ignorance. Yeah, OK, yeah, all the mass is
• 32:57
  ignorant. Maybe.
• 32:58
  Yeah, OK. There's mental health themes,
• 33:02
  themes of delusion, there's hallucinations going on in it.
• 33:08
  It's interesting, unpredictable. It's honest, refreshing.
• 33:14
  And yes, special mention to the the style of filming all in felt
• 33:19
  like one take. Obviously not, but it.
• 33:21
  Yeah, just that smoothness like you were, you were tailing the
• 33:25
  Michael Keaton character everywhere and watching his mind
• 33:30
  expand and then contract like, yeah, it's a it's a very
• 33:35
  interesting, good film in my mind.
• 33:36
  What about you? Well, the go to the end first
• 33:41
  because the ending is left purposely ambiguous.
• 33:44
  Is what they've said as much as the reality or not of the powers
• 33:49
  that Michael Keaton's character Riggan is shown to use during
• 33:53
  the film? Interpreting both ways gives a
• 33:57
  different sense of the movie and its eventually outcomes and
• 33:59
  purpose. By looking at that way, whether
• 34:01
  he had these powers or whether it was just him hallucinating
• 34:04
  it. So my question to you is what
• 34:08
  way do you learn in that respect?
• 34:12
  I think he he took that open window jump.
• 34:16
  What about you? I think so, yeah.
• 34:19
  I don't think there's anything beyond that.
• 34:22
  I know they've left it in. Biggest in biggest part is Emma
• 34:24
  Stone's character looking up. Yeah, because maybe he flew.
• 34:28
  Yeah, I don't think so. I think he plummeted.
• 34:33
  So yes. But it is left ambiguous as to
• 34:36
  whether he was doing this or whether it was in his mind, I
• 34:39
  guess. But obviously it's in his mind.
• 34:41
  Yeah. Riggins conversations with his
• 34:44
  alter ego project a feeling of madness or unreality, which is
• 34:49
  the way we both accept his character in this movie, The
• 34:53
  pressure of getting his show on, and it's successful to reclaim
• 34:56
  his career and allow him to move away from his most famous role.
• 35:00
  That's what he's trying to do. And yet in his mind, his alter
• 35:04
  ego is telling him it's not working.
• 35:05
  It's obviously. Not but he's failing you.
• 35:07
  Can just go make another Birdman film and you can make millions
• 35:09
  and you can be popular again. That's what you want, isn't it?
• 35:12
  Yeah, but it's empty. It's a name.
• 35:14
  That's what he thought. Yeah.
• 35:16
  I think Robert Downey Junior thinks that playing Iron Man's
• 35:18
  Empty. He he brings a bit more to it,
• 35:21
  doesn't he? Robert Downey Junior.
• 35:22
  That's a bit harsh on old Michael Keaton.
• 35:24
  You know Michael Keaton. Played that.
• 35:26
  Character in the in the in the universe.
• 35:29
  Yeah, Batman. In the Marvel Universe.
• 35:31
  Wasn't. No, I know him as Batman, the OG
• 35:34
  Batman. That's in the DC.
• 35:36
  I'm not a nerd, Bill. I don't know these things.
• 35:38
  You'd be surprised. Yeah, I'm nerd in a different
• 35:40
  way anyway. Anyway.
• 35:43
  Yeah, the play becomes popular due to his unannounced arrival
• 35:47
  through the main doors after locking himself out.
• 35:49
  That's just a great scene. Yes, that's right.
• 35:52
  And then of course shooting off his own nose and actual
• 35:55
  performance when he thought he was going to kill himself and he
• 35:57
  accidentally shots, shoots his own nose off instead.
• 36:00
  So of course the play suddenly becomes popular because of that
• 36:04
  for things that he. Something that was
• 36:06
  sensationalized. It's just like life.
• 36:08
  Yes, society. Michael Keaton is completely
• 36:12
  amazing in this role. Once again I just he is.
• 36:15
  He is from Mr. Mum and Night Shift through to Beetlejuice and
• 36:20
  then Batman and Jackie Brown and everything in between.
• 36:24
  He is just an amazing actor who doesn't get the plaudits that he
• 36:29
  deserves. I agree.
• 36:31
  There's so many other films he's been in that for some reason he
• 36:34
  he doesn't get that sort of praise.
• 36:38
  This was a comeback for him, just as it was a comeback for
• 36:41
  his character. Riggan and Ed Norton, Emma
• 36:46
  Stone, Zach Galifianakis and Amy Ron were also all excellent in
• 36:49
  this film. And we saw this at the movies,
• 36:51
  didn't. We.
• 36:51
  That's right. Yeah, it's very thought
• 36:54
  provoking. It is, it's, it's the, it's
• 36:56
  again, it's a, it's not a film you can go into without
• 36:59
  thinking, OK, I'm going to sit down and watch a serious film.
• 37:03
  If you're just going in to say, oh, I'm going to, you know, this
• 37:04
  is going to be great and whatever, then you may come out
• 37:06
  of it at the end feeling as though you've been sort of
• 37:09
  ripped off a little bit. But if you actually want to sit
• 37:11
  down and just watch a film and just let it play out on screen
• 37:15
  and then see how it builds and how the story develops and go
• 37:18
  along with it, then you'll get. A lot out of it, yeah.
• 37:21
  Just go with it, people, yeah? Yeah.
• 37:23
  So what did you give this? I gave it four stars.
• 37:26
  Me too. I gave it four stars.
• 37:28
  It's quite a deep movie. It is, and it you won't want to
• 37:33
  watch it again in a hurry probably, but I think you'll get
• 37:36
  more out of it the second time. Yeah, the first.
• 37:38
  Time yeah so we streamed this on Disney Plus for anyone out there
• 37:42
  who wants to watch it it was nominated for 9 Academy Awards
• 37:45
  and it won four so Michael Keaton was nominated for best
• 37:49
  actor. Ed Norton was nominated for best
• 37:51
  supporting actor. His was a really strange role,
• 37:55
  but. Often they are Edward Norton's.
• 37:57
  Yeah, well, he is a strange person.
• 37:59
  That's fantastic. Emma Stone was nominated for
• 38:02
  Best Supporting Actress, it was nominated for Best Sound Editing
• 38:05
  and Best Sound Mixing, and it won for Best Cinematography,
• 38:09
  Best Original Screenplay, Best Director and Best Picture.
• 38:13
  Wow, did it? Yes, yeah, yeah.
• 38:15
  So I can see that. It was.
• 38:18
  It's the kind of film that is film that is Best Picture sort
• 38:23
  of winning, you know, the way it's filmed and the way it's
• 38:27
  that kind of. It's a film maker's film.
• 38:29
  That's great. That's.
• 38:30
  That's exactly right. I knew the Academy would, you
• 38:32
  know, they'd love it. Yes.
• 38:34
  And I'm glad that they took it seriously and, yeah, gave it all
• 38:37
  these awards. They just didn't give the best
• 38:40
  actor to the moral Keaton anyway.
• 38:41
  If only society had stopped watching and paying money to go
• 38:44
  see all those comic book movies, we might have more decent movies
• 38:47
  like this. I'm just going to leave that one
• 38:50
  right there. So our next film is Selma and
• 39:00
  Selma is a 2014 historical drama film directed by Ava Duvernay
• 39:05
  and written by Paul Webb. It is based on the 1965 Selma to
• 39:10
  Montgomery voting rights marches which were initiated and
• 39:13
  directed by James Bevel and led by Martin Luther King Junior,
• 39:17
  Hosea Williams and John Lewis. The film stars actors David Ayo
• 39:23
  Ayolawo. Is that how you pronounce his
• 39:25
  name? I don't know.
• 39:26
  Oy oya Oyolowo. Sorry.
• 39:28
  Sorry, David, for not knowing how to pronounce your last name
• 39:32
  as Martin Luther King, Tom Wilkinson as President Lyndon B
• 39:35
  Johnson, Tim Roth as George Wallace, Carmen Ajogo as Coretta
• 39:39
  Scott King Common. That's his name as James Bevel
• 39:44
  and Giovanni Ribisi as Lee C White Helen.
• 39:50
  Also also there's April Winfrey there as an evil keeper.
• 39:54
  There are a lot of very good actors in this film.
• 39:57
  Tell us all about Selma. Well, it's a retelling of, yeah,
• 40:00
  Martin Luther King Junior's nonviolent protests to get the
• 40:05
  vote for all U.S. citizens. It's an important story, but
• 40:11
  it's told in a very earnest, very long winded way.
• 40:15
  I think I would have liked it. If the movie included more of
• 40:20
  his back story as well as what happened next, yeah, the scope
• 40:27
  was too small for my liking. I'm not.
• 40:29
  So I'm not so concerned about that because they obviously they
• 40:32
  it was the main thing they wanted to show was that that
• 40:36
  March and what happened just before and then what happened
• 40:39
  just after it. I don't think it was actually a
• 40:41
  film about Martin Luther King. It was supposed to be about.
• 40:44
  Getting the vote. Yeah.
• 40:46
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm glad I saw it, but there was
• 40:50
  nothing new here for me. For me, the main problem is that
• 40:54
  it is way too slow. Yeah and long winded and it's
• 40:58
  over dramatized. The standoff at the bridge felt
• 41:03
  like it was going on for like 5 minutes and it didn't need to 30
• 41:06
  seconds get on to the next thing and it was just way too long.
• 41:10
  The storytelling was drawn out for dramatic effect rather than
• 41:14
  allowing the dramatic story to allow the drama to be
• 41:19
  self-evident. I.
• 41:20
  Mean because in a documentary it would be just as.
• 41:23
  Yeah, good. Yeah, that's right.
• 41:24
  Just as strong. Just let the story.
• 41:26
  Probably stronger, yeah, yeah. Let let the power of the story
• 41:29
  tell itself rather than trying to make it more than it actually
• 41:33
  is. Yeah.
• 41:34
  Yeah, because the story is dramatic and awful enough
• 41:36
  without pushing it beyond. Yeah.
• 41:39
  The relationship between Martin Luther King and his wife, I
• 41:42
  thought was overdone as well. It didn't feel real on the
• 41:47
  screen even if these things had happened.
• 41:49
  I wonder if it did really happen all.
• 41:50
  The time those things really happened or whatever it was, it
• 41:52
  just felt like it was being pushed too hard.
• 41:57
  Maybe they were making him to see, making him out just to be a
• 42:01
  real normal person and not to be on, you know, held up high as.
• 42:08
  Yeah, I. Understand or whatever, he was a
• 42:10
  real human being. Yeah.
• 42:11
  And I understand they probably, like you say, wanted the show,
• 42:14
  that he wasn't just the person that we see in the documentary
• 42:16
  film. Yeah, that he also had this time
• 42:19
  when he was away from all that. And then he was with his wife
• 42:21
  and he was with his kids and that kind of stuff.
• 42:23
  But I just think they I didn't enhance the the movie as itself.
• 42:28
  Yeah, it felt out of place a little bit.
• 42:31
  Yeah, the way they handled it, yeah.
• 42:32
  And I don't know whether that's the actor's fault for the way
• 42:35
  they portrayed it or whether it's the writer's fault for the
• 42:37
  way they wrote it or whether it's the director's fault for
• 42:40
  just allowing this to sort of go on too much it.
• 42:42
  Could have easily been cut. Yeah, absolutely.
• 42:47
  I love Tom Wilkinson, but he was not believable for me as Lyndon
• 42:52
  B Johnson. Just not at no time at all did I
• 42:54
  think he was the president of the United States.
• 42:58
  So I don't know whether they got him in because I thought he was
• 43:02
  a little, he looked a bit like Johnson and he could carry on
• 43:06
  like that, or whether just because, you know, he's such a
• 43:09
  great actor, they said this is the guy, we can get him to play
• 43:11
  that role. I felt the same about Tim Roth
• 43:14
  as George Wallace. I just wondered whether they're
• 43:17
  both just too British. And that's what I.
• 43:19
  Was just going to say you don't believe.
• 43:20
  Them don't believe them that they're Americans.
• 43:23
  So as great an actors as they are, I didn't think they gave
• 43:28
  that their parts, the believability that they needed.
• 43:33
  I gave this three stars. It was interesting enough and
• 43:37
  again, it set me off to actually to research it and and look at
• 43:41
  it again. I think story was here, they've
• 43:45
  done a pretty close job with the actual events as to how they
• 43:47
  occurred. Again, we don't know about King
• 43:50
  and his wife and that kind of stuff, but yeah, just this took
• 43:55
  too long and just it dragged. It too long.
• 43:59
  I also gave it three stars. We're agreeing on a lot of
• 44:01
  these. Surely that way last this we
• 44:06
  these last four films we had to rent all of these.
• 44:09
  They're not on any streaming services.
• 44:10
  So this cost us big move up about 3 bucks each, something
• 44:14
  like that. This was nominated for two
• 44:17
  Academy Awards, one of which was Best Picture and it won the
• 44:20
  other one that it was nominated for, which was the Best Original
• 44:23
  Song. OK.
• 44:25
  Which was glory. And you know, that's, I'm not
• 44:30
  sure it should have been nominated for best Picture, but
• 44:31
  we'll talk about that at the end.
• 44:40
  Our next film is The Theory of Everything, and the Theory of
• 44:44
  Everything is the 2014 biographical drama film directed
• 44:48
  by James Marsh. Set at the University of
• 44:50
  Cambridge, it details 3 decades of the life of the theoretical
• 44:55
  physicist. He's not a.
• 44:57
  He's not theoretical. No, he's real life.
• 44:59
  He's a theory. A theory related.
• 45:02
  Theoretical Physicist. Theoretical physicist?
• 45:05
  Not not as in a physicist who is theoretical.
• 45:09
  That's right, yes. Anyway, Stephen Hawking is the
• 45:11
  guy we're talking about. It was adapted by Anthony
• 45:14
  Mccarton from the 2007 memoir Traveling to Infinity.
• 45:19
  My Life with Stephen by Jane Hawking, which deals with her
• 45:23
  relationship with her ex-husband Stephen Hawking.
• 45:25
  His diagnosis of motor neuron disease, also known as oh, I
• 45:29
  can't say that amyotropic lateral sclerosis as that
• 45:34
  sounds, sounds right. ALS, anyway, and his success in
• 45:37
  the field of physics. The film stars Eddie Redmayne
• 45:41
  and Felicity Jones, with Charlie Cox, Emily Watson, Simon
• 45:45
  Mcburney, Christian McKay, Harry Lloyd and David Thulus featured
• 45:49
  in supporting roles. Helen, tell us all about your
• 45:53
  theory of everything. Tell Bill what to do and he does
• 45:57
  it. The end.
• 45:58
  Yeah, that'll do. A beautiful portrayal of Stephen
• 46:03
  Hawking's work and his life who was an amazing human being, and
• 46:09
  it's a story worth telling. Until I saw this movie, I must
• 46:13
  admit I only knew of Stephen Hawking as that really smart guy
• 46:18
  in a wheelchair who only spoke using a machine with a robotic
• 46:21
  American accent. But once I saw this film, I
• 46:24
  know, now I know. He was a physicist and his
• 46:28
  theories were about black holes and about how stars formed, how
• 46:35
  planets and stars moved in the universe.
• 46:39
  Like he was all about that stuff.
• 46:40
  I didn't know that he was a father of three.
• 46:45
  He had an outstandingly supportive wife.
• 46:48
  But we've just heard that she is based on the story that she
• 46:51
  wrote. So I guess that's the way she's
• 46:53
  gonna seem. But I'm sure she was.
• 46:55
  I'm sure she was. He had a great sense of humour
• 47:00
  and I didn't know until this film that he lived with motor
• 47:03
  neuron disease or a type of motor neuron disease for over 30
• 47:08
  years, over 50 years, over 50 years.
• 47:10
  Was it just kept living? Amazing.
• 47:14
  I enjoyed this movie when I first saw it back in the day,
• 47:18
  and I was reminded this is where everyone realized what a star
• 47:22
  Eddie Redmayne is. This is where we all went.
• 47:25
  Whoa, this guy. It's a good watch.
• 47:29
  What do you think? Well, it's another true life
• 47:32
  story. And so yes, I, I felt that to
• 47:37
  me, it felt like a very sanitized version of the, of the
• 47:40
  lives together of Stephen and Jane, the way the film was
• 47:44
  filmed, that the dramas that occurred seemed small on the
• 47:47
  screen and in the story and not, not trivialized as such, but not
• 47:53
  harped upon. Like, you saw that they argued
• 47:55
  over things and then we'd move on to the next scene and it'd be
• 47:58
  like something else. It feels as though they were
• 48:00
  diminished in order to not make the movie a bummer when you're
• 48:03
  watching it. Oh, OK.
• 48:05
  It's the way I felt. And yes, as you said, based on
• 48:11
  her story, her book. Her point of?
• 48:13
  View very much her point of view, yeah and I I mean, again,
• 48:19
  research this afterwards and and people have said that the
• 48:23
  arguments that they had were far more not violent, but there
• 48:28
  there was a lot more arguing going on and for harsher reasons
• 48:32
  than what is shown on the screen because basically on screen
• 48:35
  their their relationship is shown fairly harmonious even
• 48:38
  when they divorced. The nurse came in.
• 48:41
  It was almost like, oh, OK, well, I gave it a go and that's
• 48:44
  it. OK, I'll go now.
• 48:46
  And you know, there's no way in the world that it would.
• 48:48
  Have been the Case No true, but it was just it was shining a
• 48:52
  light on him what he did. It was, but it was also.
• 48:57
  And how he was backed up by other people.
• 48:58
  I just think that actually now you say that, I think it's more
• 49:01
  about their relationship than it is about what he actually
• 49:04
  achieved. When you watch that movie, it's
• 49:06
  more about their relationship and, and how they struggled
• 49:10
  together And then and then how the bloke came in whose name I
• 49:14
  should remember and I shouldn't, should have written down and
• 49:16
  didn't who was their helper, who then they both fell in love with
• 49:20
  each other for obvious reasons. That was more about that than
• 49:26
  necessarily what his work was. It was there was always saying I
• 49:28
  have to work, I need to be able to do this, I need to be able to
• 49:30
  communicate, to do this kind of stuff.
• 49:33
  But most of the movie is about the relationships rather than
• 49:37
  his life because it's it's it's only set in a particular time
• 49:41
  frame too, like in a 25 or 30 year time frame of their
• 49:46
  marriage basically, I think. Yeah, So anyone?
• 49:51
  I'm always more interested in the relationship.
• 49:53
  Story I know you. Are anything else anyway, yes.
• 49:56
  Then. I'm a busy body.
• 49:58
  Real life stuff. And again, like the movie
• 50:01
  portrayed his second wife, Elaine, who?
• 50:04
  Is his first, yeah. Portrayed her as an absolute
• 50:07
  bitch. Did you?
• 50:08
  Think so. Well, that was how she came
• 50:09
  across. She was telling her to get out
• 50:11
  of the room and yeah, she was. You should see her looking back
• 50:13
  and saying oh she shouldn't be doing that.
• 50:15
  I'm his wife and I'm in charge and she they made her as if she
• 50:19
  was telling her what to do. In that one scene, yes.
• 50:21
  Well, every scene she was in, I felt that's what she did.
• 50:24
  She was, you know, pushing her authority as the nurse over what
• 50:29
  the wife was going. To perhaps I just saw her as
• 50:31
  very capable and smiley and redheaded.
• 50:35
  So I see. So you're saying that someone
• 50:36
  who's a bitch and is bossy you're seeing is capable Now?
• 50:40
  Is this something you're suggesting?
• 50:43
  Well, maybe you're drawing parallels unbeknownst to
• 50:46
  yourself. That I think those sorts of
• 50:47
  women are great. Yeah, yes, anyway.
• 50:53
  And it doesn't. Like the movie does not note at
• 50:55
  all that they got married and were.
• 50:57
  Married for 10 years. No, I just assumed it.
• 50:59
  Yes, they got married, married for 10 years and then they
• 51:00
  divorced. OK, so and no, because it only
• 51:05
  looks at 3 decades together. That's for the book.
• 51:08
  That's the thing. But the the two relationships
• 51:10
  seem to have been an upgraded for the film.
• 51:13
  That's what I thought as the movie itself, just watching it
• 51:17
  for what it is, it is absolutely terrific again.
• 51:20
  And then just like The Imitation Game, just watching the film as
• 51:23
  a film and learning things, whether they're completely
• 51:27
  accurate or not doesn't matter. It's just a terrific and as you
• 51:31
  said, Eddie Redmayne's performance in particular is
• 51:34
  just remarkable. It really the way he's able to
• 51:38
  contort his body and his face to mimic what Hawking went through
• 51:43
  and the way Hawking was. When you see photos of him, he's
• 51:47
  just incredible. And of course.
• 51:49
  It never feels like it's in bad taste or taking the piss or you
• 51:52
  know, anything like that. He just does it so accurately.
• 51:55
  It's how it is and and for the last, whatever it is, half an
• 51:58
  hour or so, the film, he can't talk anyway, so he's just acting
• 52:02
  with his ability to put his body.
• 52:04
  In his eyes, his. Eyes and his eyes, Correct.
• 52:07
  Yeah. So he is absolutely amazing.
• 52:10
  And this is the first, as you said, too.
• 52:11
  The first time I sort of noticed Eddie Redmayne as an actor, and
• 52:15
  now it's the same thing. Anytime you see his name, you
• 52:17
  think, oh, well, he's in it. It must be all right.
• 52:22
  And as with all based on real life people and events, the
• 52:24
  relationship between what happens in the movie and what
• 52:27
  occurs in reality is skewed and it's best to watch the film
• 52:30
  without considering the actual events.
• 52:32
  And then just do what I do. Then afterwards, go and do a bit
• 52:36
  of research and find out what really happened.
• 52:38
  But don't let that influence your enjoyment of the film
• 52:42
  because it is in the long run, despite it saying it's
• 52:45
  portraying a real life event. It's just a film.
• 52:48
  And you know me with films, I don't do any research before and
• 52:52
  I hardly ever look into things afterwards.
• 52:54
  I just, I just take the movie. That's it.
• 52:57
  I do notice that little moment. That's why this works so well
• 53:00
  with me doing. The Well, the research let's.
• 53:05
  Not go there? Why'd you give that?
• 53:06
  I gave it four stars. Yeah, I gave it four stars too.
• 53:09
  Look at us. Go, Bill.
• 53:11
  Again, we rented this on Amazon Prime.
• 53:14
  You can get most films on Amazon Prime if you if they don't
• 53:17
  actually stream them. This was nominated for five
• 53:19
  Academy Awards and it won only one.
• 53:22
  It was nominated obviously for Best Picture, for Best Actress
• 53:25
  for Felicity Jones, Best Adapted Screenplay and Best Original
• 53:29
  Score, and the only win was for Best Actor for Eddie Redmayne.
• 53:33
  OK, glad he got that. Our next film is Boyhood and
• 53:45
  Boyhood is a 2014 American epic coming of age drama film written
• 53:49
  and directed by Richard Linklater and starring Patricia
• 53:53
  Arquette, Ella Coltrane, Lorelei Linklater and Ethan Hawke.
• 53:58
  Filmed from from from 19. Try that again, Bill.
• 54:02
  Edit No, I don't need it. That's right.
• 54:04
  Filmed from 2002 to 2013, Boyhood depicts the childhood
• 54:09
  and adolescence of Mason Evans Junior, played by Coltrane, from
• 54:13
  ages 6 to 18 as he grows up in Texas with divorced parents
• 54:17
  Arquette and Hawke. Richard Linklater's daughter
• 54:21
  Lorelei plays Mason's sister Samantha.
• 54:24
  Production began in 2002 and finished in 2013 with
• 54:27
  Linklater's goal to make a film about growing up.
• 54:30
  The project began without a completed script, with only
• 54:33
  basic plot points and the ending written initially.
• 54:37
  Linklater developed the script throughout the production,
• 54:39
  writing the next year's portion of the film after re watching
• 54:42
  the previous year's footage. He incorporated changes he saw
• 54:45
  in each actor into the script, allowing all major actors to
• 54:48
  participate in the writing process by incorporating their
• 54:52
  life experiences into their characters stories.
• 54:56
  Helen, tell us all about boyhood.
• 54:59
  When I first watched it, I was, I was a little bit confused I
• 55:04
  think at the end of it. But then I reflected, thought
• 55:07
  about it and the stand out feature of this film is that it
• 55:12
  tells a story like you said, spanning a 12 year period and
• 55:17
  that it was shot using the same actors for those 12 years in
• 55:22
  real life. Good, good thing when I didn't
• 55:23
  drop dead like true would have stuffed everything true.
• 55:27
  The story itself is interesting enough about a young boy whose
• 55:30
  parents have separated, as you've said, then divorced, and
• 55:33
  his mother moves him and his sister around remarrying and
• 55:36
  trying to better their lives. It's presented in a very matter
• 55:40
  of fact way the whole time. It's not nostalgic or
• 55:44
  sentimental or anything. And that's in the same way that
• 55:47
  life happens around us, especially when we're kids.
• 55:49
  Just that happens. Then this happens, matter of
• 55:52
  fact. Our mistakes are made.
• 55:55
  People are doing the best that they can.
• 55:58
  For me, the most interesting aspect of the storyline is
• 56:01
  witnessing the boy's dad grow up.
• 56:04
  But maybe that's because that dad is played by Ethan Hawke.
• 56:08
  And I've always liked him since was it was the late 80s, I
• 56:12
  think, Dead Poets Society, when he came to our attention.
• 56:15
  Yeah. So, you know, I've always liked
• 56:17
  him. And it's just interesting.
• 56:19
  Initially, he's portrayed as a deadbeat dad who runs away
• 56:23
  because he can't handle parenthood.
• 56:25
  But then it turns out he's a real thinker and he loves these
• 56:29
  kids and he really connects with kids.
• 56:32
  But maybe that's because he doesn't have the day-to-day care
• 56:36
  of the kids, having to feed them, put a roof over their
• 56:39
  head, all that mundane stuff that the mom has to do.
• 56:43
  So there. Now there's also that real life
• 56:47
  experience in their story as well.
• 56:51
  And yeah, who can really know the truth of the matter in this
• 56:56
  movie or in real life? Patricia Arquette is as human
• 57:00
  and as vulnerable as she is in all her films.
• 57:04
  And for me, she's always relatable.
• 57:07
  The child actors who grow up before our very eyes are great,
• 57:10
  too. And at times it's a convoluted
• 57:14
  story which seems to lose its way now and then, just like all
• 57:19
  of us do sometimes in real life. Yeah, I really liked it.
• 57:22
  What about you? One of the things that impressed
• 57:26
  me the most to start with was that we started watching this
• 57:28
  and you said, oh, I've never seen this before.
• 57:30
  And I said we've watched this together at least once, if not
• 57:32
  twice. I don't remember it, no.
• 57:34
  We definitely must have unwatched it twice.
• 57:36
  Well, I think we might have, but, you know, far be it for me
• 57:40
  to say things that couldn't possibly be true.
• 57:44
  Yes. So lots of things about this.
• 57:48
  I love Mason's car. Yes, I knew you wouldn't.
• 57:52
  I love that car. What is it a GTA or something?
• 57:55
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a Ripper.
• 57:57
  I would black. I would love to have had a car
• 57:59
  like that. And I love Mason Junior's
• 58:04
  distraughtness that his father actually sold it when he said
• 58:07
  you were supposed to give that to me when I turned 16 or 18 or
• 58:10
  something. And of course, Mason says no, I
• 58:12
  don't remember that. Well, anyway, it was my car.
• 58:14
  I can do it along with it. And he'd re.
• 58:16
  He'd got married and had another kid and he had to sell it to
• 58:20
  afford to do things for. His to buy the minivan.
• 58:22
  So he'd really grown up, even got rid of the beautiful car he
• 58:25
  sure had. I love the way that Richard
• 58:30
  Linklater put things in that were current at the time of each
• 58:33
  part of the filming, so I. Didn't really notice.
• 58:36
  That well, they went, for instance, they went he and Mason
• 58:39
  went on a walk together off to the lake when when the when
• 58:43
  Samantha was going to stay at someone's house for the weekend
• 58:47
  for a party, whatever. It was, Yep, just the two of
• 58:49
  them. And they just brought up
• 58:50
  something and and Mason Junior's got has been asked by Ethan
• 58:54
  Hawke's character said, oh, have you got a girlfriend?
• 58:55
  He said no, sort of. He said, do you talk?
• 58:57
  No, no, you've got nothing in common.
• 58:59
  And then Mason Junior says, I mean, the three best movies of
• 59:02
  the year are The Dark Knight, Pineapple Express and Tropic
• 59:06
  Thunder, and she doesn't like any of them.
• 59:07
  And I just loved that because I thought, Oh yeah, they're 3
• 59:10
  great films. Yeah, it's fantastic.
• 59:12
  And then I was talking about the fact that, oh, well, there'll be
• 59:15
  no more Star Wars films. You know, that ended really
• 59:17
  well. Oh, unless Hans Salih become
• 59:19
  becomes a Sith board. And that was prophetic because I
• 59:22
  hadn't even started filming the next batch of Star Wars films
• 59:27
  where Han Solo's son becomes a Sith Lord.
• 59:30
  What doesn't come Sith Lord. But you know, yeah, I just
• 59:33
  thought that that was that was really good watching.
• 59:35
  Maybe they had inside information.
• 59:37
  Oh. I don't know.
• 59:38
  I don't know. But anyway, I love little things
• 59:42
  that, you know, even that Helen talked about through the film
• 59:44
  was when Mason found his bully, which they showed for like, you
• 59:48
  know, 20 seconds. Whatever he's bullying the
• 59:50
  toilet and Helen goes and really, Oh, Mason's bully is a
• 59:53
  Bieber and he did. He looked Beaver hair.
• 59:56
  Yeah I love when he gets it's his 15th birthday and they go
• 1:00:02
  and see Mason seniors new wifes family and he gets a Bible and a
• 1:00:08
  rifle for the birthday and gets to go to church.
• 1:00:12
  Welcome to Texas babe in. America.
• 1:00:14
  Your Bible in one hand and you're shut down the other
• 1:00:17
  fantastic scary he did definitely cannot pour a beer
• 1:00:21
  the the kid who played no one taught him how to pour a beer
• 1:00:23
  because he was out of kegger and he's pour a beer and it was all
• 1:00:26
  fine. Let's see what.
• 1:00:30
  I'm saying boyhood that learning how to.
• 1:00:32
  Been taught. And girlhood.
• 1:00:35
  With Mason Junior's character, it's all very familiar for the
• 1:00:38
  both of us at this time. Trying to get your child to do
• 1:00:42
  things and finish things and, you know, getting told by your
• 1:00:45
  child, yeah, yeah, I'll do it. I'll do it in a second.
• 1:00:47
  And never seeing it done. Very accurate in this film on my
• 1:00:51
  team. And even now, at the end of the
• 1:00:57
  film, Olivia, who was Patricia Arquette's character, saying
• 1:01:01
  that because, you know, she was kicking them out anyway, but
• 1:01:04
  they're all leaving. She just said, I just thought
• 1:01:06
  there would be more like intimating that time has moved
• 1:01:09
  too fast and she didn't get what she thought she was going to get
• 1:01:12
  from her children growing up. And it's funny, over the last
• 1:01:16
  seven years, that seems to have passed for us by as well.
• 1:01:19
  And that you sort of get to the point where now our kids are all
• 1:01:21
  out of school and they're all doing their own things.
• 1:01:23
  And I know I did with our eldest Jessica, when she, she ducked
• 1:01:27
  off, you know, not long after she finished school.
• 1:01:30
  And I sort of thought, well, I didn't even get to have an adult
• 1:01:33
  relationship with her when she before she left.
• 1:01:36
  And I think it's very much what Olivia was saying in this film.
• 1:01:40
  She'd done all the hard part. Yeah.
• 1:01:42
  She'd raised the kids and whatever and done the best for
• 1:01:43
  them. And then they were gone and she
• 1:01:45
  couldn't even have an adult relationship with them.
• 1:01:47
  So I thought that was very poignant in the film as well.
• 1:01:50
  Yeah, you're right. This film is an amazing concept
• 1:01:54
  and one that you and the basic cast had to be committed to.
• 1:01:58
  Like you had to be committed to the film, but the basic cast had
• 1:02:02
  to be committed for. 12 years. From a long time out, with no
• 1:02:06
  guarantee that the film would be made, you know, completed that
• 1:02:11
  you couldn't switch in. And it's so good because in
• 1:02:15
  these kind of films, if they were just filmed in a normal
• 1:02:17
  format, you'd be switching in and out actors to replace the
• 1:02:21
  characters as they got older. But it's not, it's the same kids
• 1:02:25
  who are growing up and you're seeing them as they get older
• 1:02:28
  and whatever it is. And that really does make for an
• 1:02:31
  absolutely fantastic part of this film.
• 1:02:35
  And also, it's just the established stars such as
• 1:02:38
  Patricia Arquette and Ethan Hawke grow into their roles as
• 1:02:41
  well. Like they're growing older and
• 1:02:42
  they're growing into the roles that Lick Gladder has written
• 1:02:45
  for them. The maturing of, as you said,
• 1:02:47
  Mason's seeing you throughout the way.
• 1:02:49
  Patricia Arquette has to go through all the stuff that she
• 1:02:51
  goes through. And be the constant in her kids
• 1:02:55
  lives. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:56
  Except that Ethan Hawke never ages over 12 years.
• 1:02:59
  It's exactly the same at the start as he does at the bloody
• 1:03:01
  well. I disagree, there was one point
• 1:03:03
  where I thought oh God he's finally starting to look his
• 1:03:06
  age. Thank God.
• 1:03:07
  Few more lines so. Once.
• 1:03:09
  Once over. Few lines on his face, he's
• 1:03:11
  still got the same. His personality shines.
• 1:03:14
  Through, yes, all of it. Always.
• 1:03:15
  It works well in taking snatches of life from each year, jumping
• 1:03:21
  through key moments after intimating what will happen.
• 1:03:24
  We sort of, we finish a scene and then in the next scene we
• 1:03:27
  hear what has happened as a result.
• 1:03:29
  You know, we go from 1 scene where say Mason Junior is with
• 1:03:34
  his girlfriend and they've, they've gone to visit Samantha
• 1:03:36
  and they're up there talking about what's going on.
• 1:03:39
  And then the next scene, well, like broken up and you know,
• 1:03:42
  move on to the next year or whatever.
• 1:03:43
  He's won a camera competition and whatever it is.
• 1:03:45
  So all of that was really done, really well done.
• 1:03:50
  I've written here some other things.
• 1:03:52
  Was Olivia leaving John, like when he was on the porch when
• 1:03:56
  Mason came home and he said, you're not my father.
• 1:03:58
  He said, no, I'm not your father.
• 1:03:59
  He's the one who does all his house.
• 1:04:00
  And you could see him sit down and just think, well, what the
• 1:04:02
  hell am I going to do? And the next thing you know,
• 1:04:04
  he's been, he's not. In the picture anymore.
• 1:04:06
  So all of that's done well without actually having to show
• 1:04:09
  or write a scene for it. Yeah, or anything like that.
• 1:04:12
  Because you pick up on it. Yeah, straight away.
• 1:04:14
  Oh, that's what's happened. He's gone.
• 1:04:15
  Oh well, he's gone now. Yeah, No explanation needed.
• 1:04:17
  Yeah. The cast are all terrific, just
• 1:04:21
  absolutely fantastic, and I gave this four stars, but it was, you
• 1:04:28
  know, it's probably 4 1/2 for me.
• 1:04:30
  Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I do get out of it.
• 1:04:33
  But I've given it four and could probably have done 4 1/2 as
• 1:04:37
  well. Same same.
• 1:04:38
  So again, this was rented on Amazon Prime.
• 1:04:40
  It was nominated for six Academy Awards and won 1.
• 1:04:43
  So it was nominated for this picture, obviously, Best
• 1:04:45
  Director for Richard Linklater, best supporting actor for Ethan
• 1:04:49
  Hawke, best original screenplay for Richard Linklater and best
• 1:04:52
  film editing. And it won the best supporting
• 1:04:55
  actress for Patricia Arquette. OK, Yeah.
• 1:04:59
  Interesting that as we are recording this, Ethan Hawke has
• 1:05:01
  been nominated for an Academy Award for best actor for some
• 1:05:05
  movies, and I can't remember what it is.
• 1:05:07
  It is. So after all this time, he's up
• 1:05:09
  again. Whether he wins or not, of
• 1:05:11
  course, we don't know. But yes, all fantastic.
• 1:05:22
  OK, we've reached our final film.
• 1:05:24
  That might be hard to believe There is only 8 this year.
• 1:05:27
  I think you were saying before you were rudely interrupted.
• 1:05:30
  Yeah, what? Couldn't we find 2 or there were
• 1:05:33
  only 8? There were only 8IN or maybe so.
• 1:05:36
  This final film is Whiplash, not the Metallica song.
• 1:05:40
  This is a 2014 American independent psychological drama
• 1:05:44
  film written and directed by Damien Chazelle and starring
• 1:05:48
  Miles Teller, JK Simmons and Paul Reiser.
• 1:05:52
  It focuses on an ambitious music student and aspiring jazz
• 1:05:55
  drummer, played by Teller, who is pushed to his limit by his
• 1:05:58
  abusive instructor, played by Simmons.
• 1:06:02
  Chazelle completed the script in 2013, drawing upon his
• 1:06:05
  experiences in a very competitive jazz band in high
• 1:06:08
  school. Soon after, Right of Way and
• 1:06:11
  Bloomhaus helped Chazelle turn 15 pages of the screenplay into
• 1:06:15
  an 18 minute short film that received acclaim after debuting
• 1:06:19
  at the 2013 Sundance Film Festival, which attracted
• 1:06:23
  investors to produce the complete version of the script.
• 1:06:27
  The film explores concepts of perfectionism, dedication and
• 1:06:30
  success, and deconstructs the concept of ambition.
• 1:06:34
  Those are not my words, because I wouldn't have known where to
• 1:06:37
  start by saying that. Helen.
• 1:06:39
  Tell us all about whiplash. Well, whoa, what a movie.
• 1:06:45
  I'm still feeling stressed by the experience.
• 1:06:48
  It explores the intense pressure and competitiveness of life as a
• 1:06:51
  performer, in this instance as a drummer at Schaefer
• 1:06:55
  Conservatorium in New York. And it's a theme repeated in
• 1:06:59
  another Academy Award nominated film that we watched recently,
• 1:07:03
  Black Swan, which followed the life of a prima ballerina.
• 1:07:07
  Yeah, lots of parallels in both movies.
• 1:07:10
  The cruelty and pressure inflicted by the teachers in
• 1:07:12
  charge is difficult to watch, and it's witnessed by others and
• 1:07:16
  seemingly excused since it's in the pursuit of perfection.
• 1:07:22
  The the artists, the drummer in Whiplash and the ballerina in
• 1:07:26
  Black Swan are pushed to madness really and totally lose
• 1:07:30
  themselves in any sense of reason.
• 1:07:33
  The performances in Whiplash are impeccable and although it was
• 1:07:36
  difficult to watch, I could not look away.
• 1:07:39
  JK Simmons is always very watchable, he's amazing.
• 1:07:44
  It's a great movie, but I could not go through that ordeal
• 1:07:47
  again. What about you?
• 1:07:51
  Yes, well, I could talk about JK Simmons for an hour.
• 1:07:56
  He's been in so many things, too.
• 1:07:59
  And probably getting ahead of myself here, but I'll say it
• 1:08:02
  here anyway. Generally he's in bit parts.
• 1:08:04
  Like he's a guy who comes in for like 5 or 10 minutes of a movie.
• 1:08:08
  He does his whatever he does. Like in Juno, he was so good as
• 1:08:12
  Juno's father. Yeah, in in every other film
• 1:08:15
  he's been in. He has such gravitas.
• 1:08:17
  He does, but here he's he's a leading role, Yeah, Even though
• 1:08:21
  he's he's called a supporting actor.
• 1:08:23
  But he he's in this movie all of us all the way through.
• 1:08:26
  Yeah. And he's just incredible.
• 1:08:30
  Forceful. So early on, apparently,
• 1:08:32
  Chazelle gave him direction that I want you to take it past what
• 1:08:38
  you think the normal limit would be telling him.
• 1:08:41
  I don't want to see a human being on screen anymore.
• 1:08:45
  I want to see a monster, a gargoyle, an animal.
• 1:08:48
  Well, yes. And that's exactly what he got.
• 1:08:51
  He brought it. Yeah, incredible.
• 1:08:54
  And it was interesting that Chazelle then said that between
• 1:08:57
  takes, though, Simmons was as sweet as can be, and he credits
• 1:09:02
  him for being able to keep the shoot from being nightmarish
• 1:09:04
  because once the camera was off, he was him.
• 1:09:08
  So his normal. Self obviously do it like that
• 1:09:11
  so. Quickly.
• 1:09:11
  And you saw that in the scene, so in the scene.
• 1:09:13
  Where? Where he said that his former
• 1:09:17
  student had died in the car crash, which wasn't a car crash
• 1:09:21
  as it turns out. And he was just he was
• 1:09:25
  completely emotional about his former student and just amazing.
• 1:09:29
  And then he went from that straight back into, OK, let's
• 1:09:31
  start again. And then straight straight into
• 1:09:34
  the drummers and bang on them and bang on them.
• 1:09:36
  And it was just, I just thought that showed how great an actor
• 1:09:40
  he is, to be able to change from different sort of a betrayal of
• 1:09:48
  emotion to anger to indifference to all of that kind of stuff.
• 1:09:52
  He was just amazing in this film.
• 1:09:54
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:09:55
  And he. He made you believe that he was
• 1:09:58
  that awful. Yeah.
• 1:10:00
  A person. Yeah.
• 1:10:01
  You just think that this is who he is and he's so good at it.
• 1:10:06
  So I've said that it wasn't normally in a major role.
• 1:10:09
  Yep. Yep.
• 1:10:10
  Thought Miles Teller, who played the character of Andy.
• 1:10:14
  Very John Cusack like. True, true.
• 1:10:18
  That's cute. Almost, almost thinking I'd see
• 1:10:20
  John Cusack a couple of times come out in his facial
• 1:10:22
  expressions and the way he was talking and that kind of thing.
• 1:10:26
  But he was very good. I don't even know if he's done
• 1:10:27
  anything beyond. This no me either, but he was
• 1:10:29
  great. And what have I got here?
• 1:10:34
  The changing character between both of them.
• 1:10:37
  Like when Andy thought he was on his good side, he had seen a
• 1:10:41
  smile up at him and sort of. And then JK Simmons was just
• 1:10:45
  banging out him hard again. And then he started to match it,
• 1:10:49
  match the aggression. And that's right and how they
• 1:10:52
  keep changing it all. So he and he of course changed
• 1:10:56
  as well. So he was being beaten upon and
• 1:10:58
  and you know, physically, not physically, but mentally
• 1:11:01
  especially. But then as you say, he finally
• 1:11:04
  cracked when he actually tackled him on stage and and started
• 1:11:06
  beating him up. And then in the last scene when
• 1:11:09
  he walked off after being humiliated because they played a
• 1:11:12
  song that he hadn't learnt deliberately, they were going to
• 1:11:15
  play. Deliberately he hadn't been told
• 1:11:16
  about. And he just walked back on stage
• 1:11:18
  and he took over and he just started playing a particular
• 1:11:20
  song. He said this is what we're
• 1:11:21
  playing. And then he did his big solo out
• 1:11:23
  of nowhere as well. He showed that his the the
• 1:11:26
  strength of his character, the growth of his character as well
• 1:11:29
  by being able to do that. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:33
  It was also great to see Paul Reiser in this.
• 1:11:36
  I honestly believe he's been underutilized over the years.
• 1:11:40
  He Yeah, he was. He was sort of put into a
• 1:11:44
  situation where you've seen to be a comic actor from Mad About
• 1:11:47
  You, Helen. What was?
• 1:11:48
  Her name? Helen Hunt.
• 1:11:49
  Helen Hunt from Yeah. Mad about you?
• 1:11:51
  Yeah. And then also the Beverly Hills
• 1:11:53
  Cop films and that this kind of thing.
• 1:11:55
  And, and then everything he's done in the last 10 years,
• 1:11:58
  including this, he's just, he's very understated in this.
• 1:12:01
  And Stranger Things. He's been in Stranger Things and
• 1:12:03
  he's been in other roles as well.
• 1:12:05
  I yeah, I've he's always good in what he does.
• 1:12:07
  He's pretty much the same in everything though.
• 1:12:09
  Probably, but he does it well. Just like Keira Knightley.
• 1:12:13
  Gosh, she's awful though. That's that's completely
• 1:12:15
  different. So yes, again, I gave this four
• 1:12:21
  stars could easily have given it 4 1/2.
• 1:12:24
  I think it's bordering on bordering on 4 1/2.
• 1:12:27
  I just. Thought me too.
• 1:12:28
  It was such and and it's more from the the two actors involved
• 1:12:34
  the way that they were. The psychology of it, yeah,
• 1:12:38
  yeah, I gave it four and could have gone 4 1/2 too.
• 1:12:41
  Really. So this is another one we rented
• 1:12:43
  on Amazon Prime. It was nominated for five
• 1:12:45
  Academy Awards and it won three nominated for Best Picture and
• 1:12:49
  Best Adapted Screenplay in one for Best Sound Mixing, Best Film
• 1:12:53
  Editing and Best Supporting Actor for JK Simmons.
• 1:12:57
  Cool, yeah. Right as we move into the
• 1:13:05
  conclusion stages here, let's see if Helen's on the ball here
• 1:13:08
  and she's done all her homework. I think I have OK hope I haven't
• 1:13:12
  missed anything this time all. Right, we'll see.
• 1:13:14
  So I wrote here firstly that how many movies here are again based
• 1:13:19
  on true life events? Well, four of the eight OK are
• 1:13:21
  on true life events, which I think is just a running feature
• 1:13:25
  now, isn't it? For all these these films?
• 1:13:27
  It seems to be that these are the kind of films that always
• 1:13:30
  seem to get noticed and and nominated because they're
• 1:13:34
  generally about famous people or famous incidents.
• 1:13:38
  Yeah, and that sometimes gets a bit draggy.
• 1:13:43
  Or is it just that you know what's there's some sort of
• 1:13:46
  quote about real life being madder than fiction or.
• 1:13:50
  Yeah, that's. Something like that.
• 1:13:52
  Yeah, that's. True, but I mean, I guess you
• 1:13:54
  know, these events, I just came, I think especially the American
• 1:14:00
  Sniper obviously came from a from a a popular book that they
• 1:14:03
  adapted. Selma was a a very historical
• 1:14:07
  event. Yeah.
• 1:14:10
  Imitation Game was an historical event.
• 1:14:14
  It was, Yeah. And personal.
• 1:14:16
  Story. The series of everything was
• 1:14:18
  about a very famous person. And now we've learnt that
• 1:14:21
  Whiplash was based on the experiences of real life
• 1:14:25
  experiences of the writer. Well.
• 1:14:27
  He drew upon that, but he said that the the character is not
• 1:14:33
  real, OK. It's not as if he felt that he
• 1:14:36
  was being in what he was doing, that he was being the guy who is
• 1:14:41
  he's. He wasn't.
• 1:14:42
  Attracted, I was being, wasn't being belligerent, OK, He just
• 1:14:46
  said this would make he said this is how I felt at the time.
• 1:14:50
  And so I'm going to write a story about that and then
• 1:14:52
  obviously expand on that. And yeah, exaggerate it.
• 1:14:55
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yes, I I with my rankings 6
• 1:15:02
  of the 8 films here I ranked as four out of five.
• 1:15:05
  Mine were all high too. But I did eventually put boyhood
• 1:15:08
  at 4.5 and probably could have put whiplash at 4.5 and 2.
• 1:15:14
  The other two were at 3.53 and a half. 3, not 3, three.
• 1:15:20
  There we go. Righto.
• 1:15:22
  So point I wanted to make here is that we've got these 8
• 1:15:25
  nominated films. We've got extra nominated films
• 1:15:29
  every year now because Oh yeah, there are films that are missing
• 1:15:32
  out from being nominated, but there are films being nominated
• 1:15:35
  that probably shouldn't be there.
• 1:15:36
  So here is just a couple that I chose from this year that could
• 1:15:39
  have been thought about. And you're going to love it
• 1:15:41
  because I have got superhero films in here that you're going
• 1:15:44
  to hate. Let's do them first, eh?
• 1:15:47
  Captain America, The Winter Soldier.
• 1:15:49
  Great film. So with that cute Chris guy, one
• 1:15:52
  of the. Chris.
• 1:15:53
  Chris Guy. Well, he's Captain America, so
• 1:15:55
  he's probably gonna. Have I?
• 1:15:56
  Don't know if I've seen that one, Yeah.
• 1:15:59
  Guardians of the Galaxy. Don't think I.
• 1:16:01
  Actually, there's another another cute Chris guy.
• 1:16:03
  In it, Chris Pratt. He's cute too.
• 1:16:06
  Yeah, God, this is this is what we've come to.
• 1:16:12
  I've been highbrow for long enough.
• 1:16:13
  I'm bringing it back down. It was interesting.
• 1:16:15
  The Gone Girl, was it nominated? Yeah.
• 1:16:16
  That was because it was huge when it came out.
• 1:16:18
  Yeah. But it didn't get nominated for
• 1:16:19
  best. Yeah.
• 1:16:20
  Because it's a woman's story, Bill.
• 1:16:22
  Yeah. What about Foxcatcher?
• 1:16:23
  It didn't get nominated. What was that about?
• 1:16:26
  About the wrestler who got shot by.
• 1:16:28
  Oh, yes, With the guy out of the office, you know, Steve Carell.
• 1:16:33
  Steve Carell? Yeah, That was a great film.
• 1:16:36
  Yeah. Why?
• 1:16:36
  Isn't that there, Mr. Turner? Yes, that's good too.
• 1:16:40
  With your one of your one of our favorite actors, Yeah.
• 1:16:44
  What about Big Hero 6? That was.
• 1:16:47
  Good The Lego Movie. They were both good.
• 1:16:50
  And the one film that isn't here as well, Interstellar.
• 1:16:55
  Really. That was this year, Yeah.
• 1:16:58
  They they could have done another 10.
• 1:17:00
  Well, they could have gotten rid of.
• 1:17:02
  Selma. Selma, What else?
• 1:17:04
  What's the other American Sniper?
• 1:17:05
  Yeah, those two they could have. Got they could have got rid of
• 1:17:07
  those two. But they're seats.
• 1:17:09
  They're important for American people.
• 1:17:11
  They are, but the others deserve are films that deserved.
• 1:17:14
  Yeah, you're right anyway. All right.
• 1:17:17
  Good pick up, Bill. Thanks, I like everyone.
• 1:17:20
  Strike, Strike. What I said about You got to go
• 1:17:22
  see Imitation Game, you got to go see Interstellar.
• 1:17:26
  That's the one. Righto dear, what was your pick
• 1:17:30
  for Best Picture out of those films that were nominated?
• 1:17:32
  I couldn't decide between Boyhood and The Grand Budapest
• 1:17:37
  Hotel. Both totally different, both so
• 1:17:41
  worthy. Well, I'm going to make you
• 1:17:42
  choose. Grand Budapest Hotel.
• 1:17:46
  I chose boyhood, but it's interstellar.
• 1:17:51
  Yeah, Interstellar. It could be That's the one with
• 1:17:54
  Matthew Mahonahay and yes, that whole concept of being present
• 1:18:00
  in this moment, but in a different dimension or parallel.
• 1:18:03
  Yes. Yeah.
• 1:18:04
  Something some term like that. Yeah.
• 1:18:05
  That that film is amazing. Yes, it was the best film that
• 1:18:08
  year, but out of these ones that the boyhood for me was.
• 1:18:11
  OK, Yep, I can see why. Who would you have given best
• 1:18:14
  director to? Best Director Richard Linklater
• 1:18:19
  for Boyhood. Well, I went with Alessandroji
• 1:18:22
  Inaratu for Birdman, because it was.
• 1:18:25
  Amazing the filming and the deep storyline, yes.
• 1:18:29
  It was amazing. Best Actor.
• 1:18:34
  I I can't, I don't know why, but I've written down.
• 1:18:36
  I do know why Ray Fiennes because he was just so perfect
• 1:18:40
  in grand. Absolutely he was so.
• 1:18:42
  Absurdly perfect. He was brilliant, yes.
• 1:18:45
  I went with Eddie Redmayne because I thought everything he
• 1:18:48
  did in that film for that role was just amazing.
• 1:18:50
  Yeah. Best Actress.
• 1:18:52
  I said Patricia Arquette, but is she supporting?
• 1:18:56
  I don't she's. Kind of Maine I I also put it
• 1:18:58
  down for best. Actress yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:19:00
  There weren't many I. Think she got, I think she got
• 1:19:03
  nominated for best supporting actress, but again, she was the
• 1:19:06
  main actress in that film. There weren't many strong like
• 1:19:09
  the films weren't about women, really, they were all.
• 1:19:13
  Very male related. They really were.
• 1:19:15
  Absolutely yes. Best supporting Actor.
• 1:19:20
  Ethan Hawke, what about you? JK Simmons.
• 1:19:23
  OK, Yeah. He was just so good.
• 1:19:26
  Best Supporting Actress. Felicity Jones.
• 1:19:29
  Oh, OK, I went with Emma Stone for Birdman.
• 1:19:32
  OK, but it would have been Jessica Chastain for
• 1:19:35
  Interstellar. Yeah, me too.
• 1:19:37
  That's fantastic in that, yeah. Best Adapted Screenplay.
• 1:19:41
  Adapted Imitation Game. Yeah, me too.
• 1:19:45
  Yep, best original screenplay. Boyhood there.
• 1:19:50
  You go. I went with The Grand Budapest.
• 1:19:52
  Well, mine says Boyhood or Grand Budapest, but I made a decision.
• 1:19:56
  But interstellar OK, and also. Because this is a category that
• 1:20:03
  we have come up with for our own program because no one in the
• 1:20:06
  Academy wishes to do it. Here are the nominations for
• 1:20:10
  voice actor in a animated film. So I have nominated Will Arnett
• 1:20:18
  for Batman in The Lego Movie, Nick Offerman for Metal Beard in
• 1:20:23
  The Lego Movie, Liam Neeson as Good cop Bad Cop in The Lego
• 1:20:27
  Movie, and Scott Adsett in Big Hero 6.
• 1:20:32
  Well my straight away I went whoever was Big Hero 6 guy in
• 1:20:38
  the white suit, what was his Baymax?
• 1:20:40
  Baymax, whoever that was. Scott Adson?
• 1:20:42
  Yep, yes, he's also my choice. Yep, for that.
• 1:20:46
  Cool. So there you go.
• 1:20:47
  Unanimous. It is for the two people who
• 1:20:50
  have created this category. We will send Scott.
• 1:20:54
  We'll send Scott Adset. He's a He's a Helen and Bill's
• 1:20:58
  Award award for. Excellent Adventures Award.
• 1:21:01
  Voice actor in an animated movie.
• 1:21:05
  OK, so now we've got to go through the actual awards, which
• 1:21:08
  I have not put up on the screen here yet.
• 1:21:11
  Sorry people. Well, what Helen's going to fill
• 1:21:12
  in? Here.
• 1:21:13
  Well, what do you what do you suggest that people have to have
• 1:21:18
  to watch? Mine's changed now from
• 1:21:20
  Imitation Game to Interstellar. Out of all those movies you've
• 1:21:24
  mentioned in 2014, what is If people watch one movie out of
• 1:21:27
  those, what would you? Suggest it's interstellar.
• 1:21:29
  Yeah, it's got to be hasn't. It it's outstanding.
• 1:21:32
  How come it's missing? I don't know, I don't really
• 1:21:35
  understand why but don't. They like space movies well.
• 1:21:38
  That's the main thing. They don't like science fiction
• 1:21:39
  stories. And this is it's a science
• 1:21:41
  fiction story. That is also if unless you're
• 1:21:44
  watching it, you don't understand, especially the end
• 1:21:47
  where he goes into the the wall, into the walls, and you're
• 1:21:50
  trying to work out, well, what's he doing here and how's that
• 1:21:52
  occurred? Unless you're watching it
• 1:21:55
  carefully or watching it for a second time, you're not really
• 1:21:57
  sure of what's going on. So it probably confused the
• 1:22:00
  people who were nominating for the bloody.
• 1:22:02
  Academy Awards. Maybe they didn't even watch
• 1:22:04
  them. Well, that's cool as any of
• 1:22:05
  them. As we found out in recent years,
• 1:22:07
  that's also what occurs. So yeah, that that was the
• 1:22:12
  outstanding film, yeah, of the year for me.
• 1:22:16
  And it's and it's got Matthew Mahoney.
• 1:22:18
  Apparently, what would we know? It's got everyone in that film.
• 1:22:21
  That's great. That's got Michael Caine,
• 1:22:23
  Jessica Chastain. Yeah.
• 1:22:26
  So as we've already said, Best Picture went to Birdman and we
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  also know the other films that were nominated.
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  Yes, we do, and. We also know the ones that
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  weren't nominated, that should have been best director did go
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  to Alessandro G Inaratu for Birdman, OK.
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  The others nominated were Richard Linklater for Boyhood,
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  Bennett Miller for Foxcatcher, Where's Anderson for The Great
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  Budapest Hotel and Morton Tilden for The Imitation Game.
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  So it's interesting that the director from Foxcatcher was
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  nominated but the film itself wasn't.
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  Yeah, when they could have nominated up to 10 and they only
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  nominated 8. Yeah, that's a miss.
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  It's a strange thing. Best actor in a leading role
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  went to Eddie Redmayne for The Theory of Everything.
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  The other nominations were Steve Carell in Foxcatcher, Bradley
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  Cooper in American Sniper, Benedict Cumberbatch in The
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  Imitation Game and Michael Keaton for Birdman.
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  Oh, so Rafe wasn't even nominated?
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  He was. Not that was as I said, we're
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  talking. About it, that was.
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  An oversight. I wonder if they haven't put
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  Foxcatcher in there because it's such difficult terrain.
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  Well. Which is a shame because.
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  It's no more difficult than American Sniper.
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  Yeah, like he's killing people all over the job.
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  There's only one person who dies in this, and they can't say it's
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  about the mental anguish that his character that that he
• 1:23:41
  played was giving to his wrestlers.
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  Yeah, because we copped all that.
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  Whiplash. We did too, so there's.
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  No reason for it not to be nominated except that people are
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  idiots. Best actress in a leading role
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  went to Julianne Moore for Still Alice.
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  Ah yes, that was this year too. Yes, I read the book and watched
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  the movie you did. That's an A surrounding story.
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  The other nominees were Marianne Costolard for two days, one
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  night. Did you see that?
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  Don't think so. Felicity Jones for The Theory of
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  Everything. Rosamund Pike for Gone Girl.
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  See, there's another movie that we spoke about that could have
• 1:24:22
  been nominated. Which is a horrible subject.
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  Matter as well. Yes, and Reese Witherspoon for
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  Wild. Never heard of Wild?
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  No. Me either.
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  No. Idea what that's about?
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  Best Actor in a supporting role went to JK Simmons for Whiplash.
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  The other nominees were Robert Javelle for The Judge, just
• 1:24:38
  speaking about him earlier. This was just about his final
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  role too. Ethan Hawke for Boyhood, Edward
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  Norton for Birdman, and Mark Ruffalo for Foxcatcher.
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  OK, there's another nomination for.
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  Foxcatcher Why didn't it get nominated for best pitcher?
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  Best actress in a supporting role went to Patricia Arquette
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  for Boyhood, Laura Dern was nominated for Wild, Keira
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  Knightley for The Imitation Game, I don't know how, Emma
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  Stone for Birdman and Meryl Streep.
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  What a surprise. In the woods, Into the woods.
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  Sorry. Best writing for original
• 1:25:10
  screenplay went to Birdman. Also nominated were Boyhood,
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  Foxcatcher, The Grand Budapest Hotel and Nightcrawler.
• 1:25:18
  Never heard of that. Wonder what that's about?
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  Best writing for adapted Screenplay went to The Imitation
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  Game, American Sniper, Inherent Advice, The Theory of
• 1:25:28
  Everything, and Whiplash with the other nominees.
• 1:25:30
  OK, Best animated feature film nominees included The Box
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  Trolls, How to Train Your Dragon, Two, Song of the Sea,
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  The Tale of the Princess Kaguya, and the winner, of course, was
• 1:25:48
  Big Hero 6. Very good.
• 1:25:51
  Beyond that, there's not much else there to sort of talk about
• 1:25:55
  because most of those things I don't understand.
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  Cinematography. What people are wearing
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  lightning. Costume design.
• 1:26:04
  Yeah, that. Kind of crap.
• 1:26:07
  Most nominations went to Birdman and the Great Budapest Hotel
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  with 9. The Imitation Game got 8.
• 1:26:14
  American Sniper Boyhood got 6. Foxcatcher, Interstellar, The
• 1:26:17
  Theory of Everything in Whiplash all got 5 and the most wins was
• 1:26:21
  to Burn Men with four and Grand Budapest Hotel with four and
• 1:26:25
  Whiplash with three. Thank you, Bill.
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  So into still, I did get nominated, yeah, for five
• 1:26:31
  things. But snubbed for Best Picture?
• 1:26:33
  Yeah, Crazy and Foxcatcher got nominated everywhere and anyway,
• 1:26:40
  we've reached the end. It's only taken us five months,
• 1:26:44
  feels. Like that long?
• 1:26:48
  So yes, thank you, lovely Helen, for being here again.
• 1:26:50
  Thanks, William. We will continue on if we stay
• 1:26:54
  on track. So everyone should write in and
• 1:26:58
  get on Helen's back and ensure that we can get an episode out
• 1:27:01
  once a month. That's all we're asking.
• 1:27:02
  Once a month, once every four weeks.
• 1:27:05
  And if we do that, by this time next year, before next year's
• 1:27:08
  Academy Awards will be caught up.
• 1:27:11
  That is a good incentive. To that point in time.
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  And then is it just one a year after that?
• 1:27:16
  Well, then you've got everything to go Backwards from 1999.
• 1:27:21
  Backwards from 1999, Yeah. So many films you haven't seen
• 1:27:25
  that you're saying, Why haven't I seen that?
• 1:27:28
  So many films that aren't nominated that we say, why
• 1:27:31
  haven't we seen that too? Yes.
• 1:27:33
  So many films to watch, everybody, yeah.
• 1:27:35
  We can't we. Could do this forever, no?
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  We can't because if it takes us five months to watch 8 films,
• 1:27:40
  it's going to be a very long Rd. Just give up the day jobs, we'll
• 1:27:43
  be right. OK, can I?
• 1:27:46
  That's not the answer I was looking for.
• 1:27:48
  It's laughable, is what I'm saying.
• 1:27:50
  OK all. Right, all right.
• 1:27:51
  Well, as always everybody, thank you for those of you who have
• 1:27:54
  been patient enough and waited for us to get this episode out.
• 1:27:56
  We do appreciate the fact that there are people out there who
• 1:27:59
  enjoy listening to us ramble on about this rubbish and that you
• 1:28:02
  have been waiting very patiently for us to get out.
• 1:28:05
  Next episode out and we will be doing our utmost to make sure
• 1:28:08
  that we are back on a regular basis now from this point on.
• 1:28:11
  So to everyone, if you wish to leave us some comments about
• 1:28:16
  this, you know where to get in contact with me.
• 1:28:18
  That's probably going to be your best outlet because Helen tends
• 1:28:21
  to not look at anything. If she gets sent messages or
• 1:28:24
  e-mails, she can't read her e-mails because her e-mails are
• 1:28:27
  in such a mess she wouldn't know who they were coming from.
• 1:28:30
  I live in the moment. Thank you.
• 1:28:33
  It sounds a bit like Dead Poets Society.
• 1:28:35
  So yes, I will put in the show notes where you can contact us
• 1:28:38
  if you'd like to leave some comments and we can read them
• 1:28:41
  out at the start of the next episode.
• 1:28:43
  As always, thank you for being a part of this and until next
• 1:28:46
  time, it's a good night for me. And it's good night for me.
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  The.