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- 0:06SPEAKER_00: Thank you for joining me on Stable Roots this week.
- 0:11SPEAKER_00: Today I'm going to be talking about story,
- 0:14SPEAKER_00: how story is everything,
- 0:17SPEAKER_00: and the narrative webs that weave us together.
- 0:21SPEAKER_00: Podcasts are by their essence containers of stories,
- 0:26SPEAKER_00: so I have two announcements that are a fitting share for the theme of this week's writings.
- 0:32SPEAKER_00: It was a week of deep conversations and connections,
- 0:35SPEAKER_00: sitting down with cups of tea and listening to wise women.
- 0:39SPEAKER_00: It was an honor to share a table and a microphone with all of them.
- 0:43SPEAKER_00: I'd love for you to listen to their words and join in the richness.
- 0:47SPEAKER_00: You can also find these episodes on all your favorite podcast platforms, but
- 0:53SPEAKER_00: I've got the Confident Rider podcast with Jane Pike,
- 0:58SPEAKER_00: and she's holding a series of Christmas conversations,
- 1:01SPEAKER_00: and all of them are wonderful.
- 1:03SPEAKER_00: But I was so honored to be able to sit down with her and others this week,
- 1:08SPEAKER_00: and you can find that on The Confident Rider.
- 1:12SPEAKER_00: And then my podcast,
- 1:13SPEAKER_00: Relatively Stable,
- 1:15SPEAKER_00: I had finally the opportunity to sit down with Tamar Reno and I could have a
- 1:21SPEAKER_00: conversation with her every single day and every single week and record it and send
- 1:26SPEAKER_00: it out into the world.
- 1:28SPEAKER_00: But you can click on this post for Stable Roots and find links to the Confident
- 1:33SPEAKER_00: Writer podcast and Relatively Stable,
- 1:36SPEAKER_00: or you can just search for them and find them on all your favorite platforms.
- 1:42SPEAKER_00: Let's get started.
- 1:46SPEAKER_00: What's in a story?
- 1:49SPEAKER_00: Don't slay me for saying this, but I really dislike Charles Dickens.
- 1:54SPEAKER_00: Is it doubly bad saying this before Christmas, or would Dickens be like, of all my stories, that one?
- 2:02SPEAKER_00: But I'm sinking into his unforgettable opening line.
- 2:06SPEAKER_00: It was the best of times.
- 2:08SPEAKER_00: It was the worst of times.
- 2:10SPEAKER_00: Because I can't find a better quote to sum up the last quarter of 2024 for me.
- 2:16SPEAKER_00: These past months,
- 2:17SPEAKER_00: I've had a lot of downtime and these hours of being alone with my thoughts have
- 2:21SPEAKER_00: made me hugely aware of my stories,
- 2:24SPEAKER_00: the narratives we humans construct to make sense of the world.
- 2:28SPEAKER_00: My story this year has been one of great joy and great upheaval.
- 2:35SPEAKER_00: Story is everything.
- 2:39SPEAKER_00: And I'm taking those words from Tamar Reno.
- 2:44SPEAKER_00: Writers have permission to live in alternate realities.
- 2:47SPEAKER_00: It's not a lie if it's art.
- 2:49SPEAKER_00: And I'm here today to talk about stories, the timelines we choose to live in.
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: We all do it.
- 2:55SPEAKER_00: I wrote as a kid because I wanted to escape the reality I lived in.
- 3:00SPEAKER_00: Horses and barns became the same kind of medicine for me as time went on.
- 3:06SPEAKER_00: There's a mystery in the presence of the herd that invites us to think beyond our limitations,
- 3:12SPEAKER_00: to consider a different way of being.
- 3:15SPEAKER_00: When I first started taking the stories out of my head and putting them down on paper,
- 3:20SPEAKER_00: someone accused me of having stolen the words or having made it all up.
- 3:24SPEAKER_00: I still smart when I think about that.
- 3:27SPEAKER_00: Having our story questioned is a really big deal.
- 3:31SPEAKER_00: I can vividly remember the periods of my life that were consumed with stories,
- 3:35SPEAKER_00: characters,
- 3:36SPEAKER_00: landscapes,
- 3:38SPEAKER_00: carved from my imagination and as real to me as the light from a sunset.
- 3:43SPEAKER_00: These are liminal spaces.
- 3:45SPEAKER_00: the in-between times of my world.
- 3:48SPEAKER_00: My brain is balanced when I'm drifting in creative space.
- 3:52SPEAKER_00: The whirling cyclones of my logical thoughts,
- 3:55SPEAKER_00: constant,
- 3:56SPEAKER_00: swirling,
- 3:57SPEAKER_00: destructive,
- 3:58SPEAKER_00: meet the sweeping robe dervishes of my subconscious.
- 4:03SPEAKER_00: I've written before about how I'm an anxious traveler.
- 4:07SPEAKER_00: Many years ago,
- 4:08SPEAKER_00: I was deeply immersed in a story I was writing,
- 4:11SPEAKER_00: and my ex-husband planned a sudden trip back home to Istanbul.
- 4:16SPEAKER_00: I was expected to get the farm in order in a matter of days,
- 4:19SPEAKER_00: arrange the trip,
- 4:20SPEAKER_00: get finances in order,
- 4:22SPEAKER_00: hop on a plane,
- 4:23SPEAKER_00: and go.
- 4:24SPEAKER_00: South Carolina to Turkey isn't a day trip.
- 4:28SPEAKER_00: Just getting there takes 24 hours of flights.
- 4:31SPEAKER_00: This trip should have hit all my triggers and made me a nervous wreck.
- 4:36SPEAKER_00: But it didn't.
- 4:38SPEAKER_00: I had a story in my head.
- 4:40SPEAKER_00: I was in love with my characters,
- 4:42SPEAKER_00: a criminal collection of international anti-heroes with sordid pasts,
- 4:47SPEAKER_00: burgeoning redemption,
- 4:49SPEAKER_00: and witty one-liners.
- 4:51SPEAKER_00: My imagination was living my daily life through their lens.
- 4:56SPEAKER_00: I might have looked like a farm girl on the outside, but my reality was so much more.
- 5:02SPEAKER_00: I was guided by the story building inside my head.
- 5:06SPEAKER_00: I packed my bags and with my best traveling clothes,
- 5:09SPEAKER_00: downloaded an eclectic Baroque soundtrack and boarded the plane to Turkey like I
- 5:15SPEAKER_00: was the most interesting person in the world.
- 5:18SPEAKER_00: Everyone in the airports became a potential character, every view a potential new scene.
- 5:25SPEAKER_00: With the storyline in my head,
- 5:27SPEAKER_00: I got out of my usual nest of fears and I lived life boldly like I belonged there.
- 5:35SPEAKER_00: This way of traveling was so directly opposite to the way I usually did things that I astounded myself.
- 5:41SPEAKER_00: What better way to experience the world,
- 5:44SPEAKER_00: to absorb it and not be trapped in lists and what-ifs and limiting self-consciousness?
- 5:51SPEAKER_00: I felt my fingers against the fluted glass of hot tea beside the gray waters of the Bosphorus.
- 5:59SPEAKER_00: I stood still on a street of fabric shops and absorbed the call to prayer like it
- 6:04SPEAKER_00: was a song made of wind.
- 6:07SPEAKER_00: I photographed every sacred street cat I saw.
- 6:11SPEAKER_00: I tried on clothes and danced to the cure in a dressing room.
- 6:16SPEAKER_00: I engaged in deep, drunken conversations with mystics in old bars.
- 6:22SPEAKER_00: I chased ghosts by the graffitied walls of old Constantinople on Halloween night.
- 6:29SPEAKER_00: Photos from that trip are so different from the dark-eyed hauntedness on my face
- 6:33SPEAKER_00: and images from other trips to Istanbul.
- 6:36SPEAKER_00: We made many sojourns there.
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: I love the city and was proud to know it was my second home.
- 6:42SPEAKER_00: But my face on this trip, when my head was filled with stories, it's different.
- 6:48SPEAKER_00: My eyes are mischievous and bright and open, alive, not guarded.
- 6:54SPEAKER_00: The stories we live in our minds change the shape of our realities.
- 7:02SPEAKER_00: We think in stories.
- 7:04SPEAKER_00: Psychologists know this.
- 7:06SPEAKER_00: It's why cognitive behavioral therapy has become the mainstay of therapeutic techniques,
- 7:11SPEAKER_00: considered universally beneficial when so many other tools are strongly debated.
- 7:17SPEAKER_00: CBT works by challenging the spontaneous,
- 7:21SPEAKER_00: negatively habitual thoughts we've amassed as defensive patterns in response to the world.
- 7:27SPEAKER_00: Narrative therapy is another psychotherapeutic process that is used to transform thinking patterns.
- 7:35SPEAKER_00: We live and breathe and react through the stories we tell ourselves.
- 7:39SPEAKER_00: Some are good,
- 7:40SPEAKER_00: some are bad,
- 7:42SPEAKER_00: but we have a choice,
- 7:43SPEAKER_00: no matter how much it feels in the moment that we do not.
- 7:46SPEAKER_00: I know that feeling of stuck, frozen immobility intimately.
- 7:51SPEAKER_00: We can change, adapt, alter, and transform our stories.
- 7:56SPEAKER_00: We really are the authors of our own life.
- 8:01SPEAKER_00: Like defending my first written story when I was little,
- 8:04SPEAKER_00: I will go to war over someone challenging my narrative.
- 8:08SPEAKER_00: Many years ago,
- 8:09SPEAKER_00: I was honored to share a space in a clinic with Jane Stewart of Journey Horse in
- 8:13SPEAKER_00: New Mexico.
- 8:15SPEAKER_00: It was my first experience with horse people who were more interested in knowing
- 8:19SPEAKER_00: the horse than they were in chasing achievements and accolades.
- 8:23SPEAKER_00: The atmosphere was quiet and natural and vulnerable.
- 8:27SPEAKER_00: We shared stories and we were honest with each other.
- 8:31SPEAKER_00: At one point,
- 8:32SPEAKER_00: Jane explained that we needed to let go of our stories in order to show up in a
- 8:36SPEAKER_00: better way for the horse.
- 8:38SPEAKER_00: This idea incensed me.
- 8:41SPEAKER_00: I argued back.
- 8:43SPEAKER_00: I explained that as a writer, story was my guiding force.
- 8:47SPEAKER_00: How dare anyone suggest I give up my story?
- 8:50SPEAKER_00: It was like Jane wanted me to give up my identity,
- 8:53SPEAKER_00: hand over my documents,
- 8:54SPEAKER_00: and begin a new life and witness protection somewhere in the middle of Alaska.
- 8:59SPEAKER_00: I hate the cold.
- 9:02SPEAKER_00: I thank Jane to this day for her deep rooted patience with me.
- 9:07SPEAKER_00: She explained that the stories we tell ourselves don't need to be static.
- 9:11SPEAKER_00: They can move and change and grow.
- 9:14SPEAKER_00: The point is letting go of our attachment to our story so that we can see what lies
- 9:18SPEAKER_00: beyond the mountains of our perception.
- 9:21SPEAKER_00: We become so used to wearing the same story every single day that we forget that
- 9:26SPEAKER_00: stories are like clothes.
- 9:28SPEAKER_00: We can wash them, dry them, change them, or try on a new outfit altogether.
- 9:34SPEAKER_00: We're not supposed to be stuck.
- 9:38SPEAKER_00: In my podcast interview with Tamar Reno, she said, story is everything.
- 9:44SPEAKER_00: It's how we perceive our relationship to everything.
- 9:47SPEAKER_00: Humans for thousands of years have been programmed to think in stories.
- 9:52SPEAKER_00: It's how we connect with ourselves, with other people, with the world around us.
- 9:57SPEAKER_00: We think in stories.
- 10:00SPEAKER_00: Language is the root of our story.
- 10:04SPEAKER_00: And the language we naturally think in directs the energy of our stories.
- 10:08SPEAKER_00: Tamar talks about how English is a static language.
- 10:12SPEAKER_00: It's still and slow moving.
- 10:14SPEAKER_00: It doesn't inspire action.
- 10:17SPEAKER_00: English holds our thoughts like a snapshot instead of a movie reel.
- 10:21SPEAKER_00: It's easy to get stuck there, motionless in our thoughts.
- 10:26SPEAKER_00: Curiosity moves us.
- 10:29SPEAKER_00: Inspiration sparks us.
- 10:32SPEAKER_00: Questions encourage us to act.
- 10:38SPEAKER_00: Asking the right question.
- 10:41SPEAKER_00: It's Tamar's gelding first horse who encourages us to keep searching,
- 10:45SPEAKER_00: trying on many questions for size until we found the right one,
- 10:50SPEAKER_00: until we've landed on the right question.
- 10:54SPEAKER_00: How do we know when we found the right one?
- 10:58SPEAKER_00: Because you won't need to ask a different question, first horse says.
- 11:03SPEAKER_00: I wrote in my love story about challenging myself to see if I could hold an entire
- 11:08SPEAKER_00: conversation in questions.
- 11:11SPEAKER_00: Hint, it worked and Christopher didn't realize I was doing it.
- 11:15SPEAKER_00: Or he hasn't called me out on it yet.
- 11:17SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 11:19SPEAKER_00: Learning how to talk in order to listen was my first lesson as I launched my
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: coaching practice the day the world locked down during the pandemic.
- 11:28SPEAKER_00: We were frightened.
- 11:31SPEAKER_00: uncertain of the future,
- 11:32SPEAKER_00: wary of each other,
- 11:34SPEAKER_00: and learning to use our senses in a different way,
- 11:37SPEAKER_00: unable to read expressions beyond our masks.
- 11:40SPEAKER_00: The only way I could show up as a confidant,
- 11:43SPEAKER_00: advocate,
- 11:43SPEAKER_00: and guide was by learning to ask questions,
- 11:46SPEAKER_00: sit back,
- 11:47SPEAKER_00: and wait.
- 11:48SPEAKER_00: I learned to be patient with the pace of someone's story and to accept their stories as their truth.
- 11:56SPEAKER_00: Questions are the roadmap of my sessions with clients.
- 11:59SPEAKER_00: Questions can be hard or soft.
- 12:02SPEAKER_00: They can create connection or divisiveness.
- 12:05SPEAKER_00: They can be open or closed.
- 12:08SPEAKER_00: The question I'm sure is right is rarely the one that ultimately allows a person
- 12:13SPEAKER_00: the space to unlock the next steps of their story.
- 12:17SPEAKER_00: Questions are alchemy.
- 12:20SPEAKER_00: Questions are a moving, breathing art.
- 12:24SPEAKER_00: Questions are my dance with the horses, myself and the world.
- 12:30SPEAKER_00: Questions, like all art, take practice.
- 12:36SPEAKER_00: Through questions,
- 12:37SPEAKER_00: I better know my story and decide if the narrative I'm living by still has my best
- 12:41SPEAKER_00: interest at heart.
- 12:43SPEAKER_00: Questions show me when I'm ready to change course, adapt and move forward.
- 12:49SPEAKER_00: Questions tell me when it's time to stay still and wait.
- 12:54SPEAKER_00: Inquiry guides a creative life.
- 12:57SPEAKER_00: I pull myself out of dark places by the light of curiosity.
- 13:02SPEAKER_00: At first, it's a dull flicker like a distant candle in the window of a forest.
- 13:07SPEAKER_00: If I'm brave enough to reach beyond my story and follow a path of questions through
- 13:12SPEAKER_00: the dark trees,
- 13:14SPEAKER_00: I don't mind the briars and the sticks that snarl me.
- 13:17SPEAKER_00: I brush them away and move closer to the light.
- 13:22SPEAKER_00: There's no certainty as I shift the perspective of my story.
- 13:26SPEAKER_00: The distant candlelight might lead to an empty house or it could welcome me into
- 13:31SPEAKER_00: the warm kitchen of a kind character who invites me inside for tea and conversation.
- 13:37SPEAKER_00: I won't know until I knock.
- 13:41SPEAKER_00: What I offer you at the end of this month,
- 13:44SPEAKER_00: this season,
- 13:44SPEAKER_00: this transition,
- 13:46SPEAKER_00: this year,
- 13:47SPEAKER_00: is an invitation to sink into your questions.
- 13:50SPEAKER_00: I welcome you to explore your story.
- 13:54SPEAKER_00: You can do this in your thoughts or in your notebook,
- 13:57SPEAKER_00: wherever it feels best to take a journey into and beyond yourself.
- 14:04SPEAKER_00: Here are some questions to get you started.
- 14:08SPEAKER_00: One.
- 14:10SPEAKER_00: What is a lie you told yourself and believed?
- 14:14SPEAKER_00: Was the lie necessary at the time?
- 14:18SPEAKER_00: What happens if you write the truth next to it?
- 14:24SPEAKER_00: 2.
- 14:25SPEAKER_00: Pretend you are a tree.
- 14:28SPEAKER_00: What do you see?
- 14:29SPEAKER_00: What do you hear?
- 14:31SPEAKER_00: What is your story?
- 14:32SPEAKER_00: 3.
- 14:36SPEAKER_00: What does no feel like in your body?
- 14:40SPEAKER_00: Do you listen to it?
- 14:43SPEAKER_00: Four, what does yes feel like in your body?
- 14:48SPEAKER_00: Do you listen to it?
- 14:52SPEAKER_00: And five, if you could live anywhere else, where would it be?
- 14:57SPEAKER_00: Describe what your alternate home looks like.
- 15:01SPEAKER_00: How do you spend your days?
- 15:06SPEAKER_00: It's the season of shameless self-promotion.
- 15:09SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to reorganize my relationship with gift giving in this end of the year rush.
- 15:15SPEAKER_00: We made the universal decision in the farmhouse to take the pressure off.
- 15:20SPEAKER_00: If gifts are under the tree on Christmas day, great.
- 15:24SPEAKER_00: If we're gifting each other in January or February, that works too.
- 15:29SPEAKER_00: The gifts I value more than anything right now are time, experience, and support.
- 15:36SPEAKER_00: The day before I visited with Jane Pike on her podcast,
- 15:39SPEAKER_00: she sent out a list of beautiful,
- 15:41SPEAKER_00: thought-provoking questions.
- 15:43SPEAKER_00: One was, do I have anything to share?
- 15:47SPEAKER_00: As I made a list of things I wanted the world to know about,
- 15:50SPEAKER_00: I was surprised that supporting the arts was at the top of my list.
- 15:56SPEAKER_00: Before horses, I sold art, but I've always been interested in the primitive and outsider art.
- 16:03SPEAKER_00: I want to know what people are making on the fringes.
- 16:06SPEAKER_00: I want to know what folk artists see.
- 16:09SPEAKER_00: I want to know their stories.
- 16:11SPEAKER_00: My farm is a collection of outsider artists in every medium.
- 16:16SPEAKER_00: I am thankful for this well of creativity every day.
- 16:21SPEAKER_00: And here's my wish list that I'm sharing with you.
- 16:25SPEAKER_00: In your already overtaxed list of people's wants this season,
- 16:29SPEAKER_00: I'm going to add to the burden by outlining ways you can support my work and my farm.
- 16:34SPEAKER_00: If you have someone on your list that's hard to buy for,
- 16:37SPEAKER_00: think of these suggestions as creative,
- 16:39SPEAKER_00: eclectic,
- 16:40SPEAKER_00: and outside the box.
- 16:43SPEAKER_00: And the first is something new that I'm offering this season, and that's an archetype coaching session.
- 16:50SPEAKER_00: And these micro sessions are 30 minutes in length and they use a combination of
- 16:54SPEAKER_00: beautiful cards and questions to assist you or your recipient in re-imagining your story.
- 17:01SPEAKER_00: They take place by Zoom and the participant will receive a recording to refer back
- 17:06SPEAKER_00: to as they make their way into the new year.
- 17:08SPEAKER_00: And the cards that I use for these sessions are beautiful and they're based in botanicals and animals.
- 17:14SPEAKER_00: And it really gives us a chance to dive into symbol and archetype and what those
- 17:20SPEAKER_00: overarching themes in our life might mean for us.
- 17:25SPEAKER_00: The second thing that you can do is sponsor a horse.
- 17:30SPEAKER_00: Many of our herd are seniors and every horse at my farm comes to us with a story.
- 17:35SPEAKER_00: They have a permanent home with us where they help people heal every single day.
- 17:40SPEAKER_00: By sponsoring an individual horse, you become part of their care and support team.
- 17:46SPEAKER_00: And sponsorships allow us to provide care for them that we might not be able to otherwise.
- 17:53SPEAKER_00: It's a very huge part of our barn here.
- 17:57SPEAKER_00: Another way that you can give back hugely to this community into this farm in the
- 18:01SPEAKER_00: holiday season is to subscribe to Stable Roots.
- 18:06SPEAKER_00: Whether it's free,
- 18:07SPEAKER_00: paid,
- 18:08SPEAKER_00: or a gift subscription,
- 18:11SPEAKER_00: you are helping support the heart of my writing and this little farm in the
- 18:15SPEAKER_00: foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains.
- 18:17SPEAKER_00: I have some exciting things planned for paid subscribers in 2025.
- 18:23SPEAKER_00: And two other things,
- 18:25SPEAKER_00: we're past the time for holiday delivery,
- 18:27SPEAKER_00: but if you're not on a deadline,
- 18:29SPEAKER_00: you can snag Bramblewood Stables merchandise or a calendar if you visit our website.
- 18:37SPEAKER_00: Lastly, my wish list that I'm sharing with you.
- 18:40SPEAKER_00: This item is absolutely free, and that is please share my work.
- 18:47SPEAKER_00: Comment with your thoughts and spread the word on social media.
- 18:51SPEAKER_00: It costs nothing,
- 18:52SPEAKER_00: but it pays dividends in building my platform and allowing me to send the wisdom of
- 18:57SPEAKER_00: my herd out into the world.
- 19:00SPEAKER_00: Let's do everything we can do to share each other's art in this coming year.
- 19:06SPEAKER_00: Thank you for being here with me.
- 19:09SPEAKER_00: Thank you for reading my stories.
- 19:12SPEAKER_00: And thank you for being the light that draws us closer through the forest.
- 19:17SPEAKER_00: I'll be hosting a Zoom call next week for all my paid subscribers.
- 19:21SPEAKER_00: It's been a long time since we did that.
- 19:24SPEAKER_00: And I look forward to seeing everyone there.
- 19:26SPEAKER_00: Love, Kim.