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Choppin it Up with Coach Krispy Kreme | The Quarterfinal Tests! · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  I was born to kill it,
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  I was meant to win I am
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  down and willing so I will
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  find a way It took a minute
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  now it didn't have to ride
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  away When it get hot in the
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  kitchen you decide to stay
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  That's how it went
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  what is going on everybody
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  welcome to chopping it up
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  with coach crispy cream my
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  name is scott switzer I
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  will have by next week I
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  promise new bumpers new
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  backdrops um we'll get
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  something appropriate for
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  this show but I do like
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  that song it's fine by me I
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  always want to like groove
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  a little bit when it's
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  going but yeah so how's your week been
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  Good.
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  Yeah, what, it's Thursday?
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  Time just flies right now
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  with quarters ending.
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  We have a lot of athletes
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  who are prepping.
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  The semis prep is always odd,
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  especially with the calendar this year,
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  because some teams have been prepping.
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  they have longer some indies
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  don't have as long now that
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  their quarters is done
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  depending on when their
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  semis is so it's a lot of a
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  lot of athletes are
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  starting to get back in the
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  gym after taking some time
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  off quarters just a lot of
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  moving parts plus logistics
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  for semis and things like
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  that but it's been good uh
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  lex says you must be off
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  today scott you're knocking
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  out like 40 interviews
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  Uh, I think it's 39, but close,
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  close enough.
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  Yeah.
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  And I actually, I took yesterday,
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  today and tomorrow off, uh,
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  for mental health.
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  Um,
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  just one stressor I didn't need was my
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  job.
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  And so I took a couple of
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  days off and then tomorrow
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  we're heading to
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  Pennsylvania for my mom's birthday.
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  She turned 79 years old yesterday,
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  79 years old.
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  And, uh, go and check,
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  see what she's doing and
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  hang out with her for a weekend.
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  So yeah.
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  That's awesome.
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  So yeah, got a lot done today.
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  You've been busy.
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  It was a productive day.
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  Even got a workout squeezed
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  in between the last two.
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  Very nice.
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  What'd you do?
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  It's Cardio Thursday at Polaris.
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  Love it.
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  So every Thursday is just like super long,
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  super cardio machines.
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  So it started with a salt
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  bike and four rounds of a
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  salt bike and pushups.
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  Okay.
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  Then I went into like three
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  rounds of double unders and pushups.
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  Pull-ups like very like
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  Murph testy kind of stuff.
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  Um,
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  and then it finished with farmer's
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  carries and squats, air squats.
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  I like it.
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  So, yeah,
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  what I like about those is it's
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  an in and out workout in out,
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  not a lot of warmup,
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  not a lot of cool down.
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  Yep.
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  So yeah, you don't have to prep too much.
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  Yeah.
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  So Hattie's in the comments.
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  Oh, hey, Hattie.
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  And we'll see her in an hour and a half.
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  Hour and a half.
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  Two hours or so.
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  So a lot of things have
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  happened this week.
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  We had an agenda.
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  It's the same agenda we had
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  last week that we never got to.
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  Yeah.
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  But I want to talk quickly
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  about... I was on Coffee
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  Pods and Wads yesterday.
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  And...
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  While I had a blast, right,
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  and I knew kind of what
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  Peter looks for in those
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  games and I tried to pick
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  the pieces of my argument
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  that would get me the most points,
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  I left feeling like there
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  was more I wanted to say
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  about each topic because
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  you only have 60 seconds.
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  So you got to figure out
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  like what haymaker I'm
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  going to throw for the 60
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  seconds and then the rest
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  of it's just kind of out there.
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  And don't get me wrong, I had a blast.
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  You looked like it.
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  Had a blast, and I won.
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  So, yeah, you got to love that.
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  I don't think Harriet
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  Roberts knew what she was
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  in for on that show.
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  Nope.
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  Waking up at 5 a.m.
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  and jumping on in Australia.
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  Yeah.
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  And Adam, I thought, came pretty hard,
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  but he did not prepare properly.
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  Yeah,
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  it seemed like he just showed up and
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  sent it.
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  So the big thing I just
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  wanted... I really do
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  believe that... Because the
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  first question was,
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  how do we improve the
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  quarterfinals for 2025?
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  And my opinion is,
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  it doesn't... We need to
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  keep strict video review in the process.
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  And I truly believe that too
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  many people with bad
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  movements have gotten
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  through in years past.
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  And we just keep forgetting
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  about that when stuff like this happens.
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  And the one thing I didn't
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  get to say on the show is,
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  if you feel wronged,
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  why haven't you posted
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  proof that you were wronged?
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  I mean, that's something that has I mean,
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  what an athlete that I know,
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  who's good friends with my
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  fiance brought up early in
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  this whole thing.
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  Where's the only one we saw
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  drop a video pretty quickly was Velma.
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  Right?
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  And he just threw it out
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  there like whatever.
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  Yeah.
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  I think it's a valid point.
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  And
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  It's really funny because in
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  my Emily Rolfe interview today,
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  she talked about how
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  someone messed up her clock
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  during that workout.
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  So it actually happened twice.
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  Her clock got messed up mid-workout.
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  She had to redo it a couple times.
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  She is normally a do the workout,
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  get it posted, and be done.
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  She does not review the video.
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  But because that happened, she's like,
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  well,
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  I've got the video of the first half.
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  I might as well take a look.
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  And she didn't like her reps.
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  So she made sure she came to
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  full extension on the next rep.
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  So thankfully someone
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  stopped her clock midway through because,
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  yeah, it may have cost her.
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  I mean,
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  we had a slightly similar thing
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  with Jacob.
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  I just wasn't paying enough attention.
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  And the first time he did that,
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  he only started with his
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  back to the barbell on the first round.
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  So then we had this huge discussion about,
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  you know,
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  are they going to watch that one?
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  Are they going to penalize that one?
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  This whole thing.
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  And then I also really started, you know,
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  we'd seen him do it.
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  We had seen a couple other
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  athletes on site do it.
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  We were starting to get some
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  scores from some people.
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  So then the conversation also turned into,
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  okay, we need a cleaner run and we,
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  we can probably put up a
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  significantly better score.
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  So, yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  But again, super fun.
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  Super glad I got invited on.
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  And I get to do it again in
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  a couple weeks.
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  Nice.
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  Heck yeah, man.
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  As we move through the process.
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  It is a fun show to watch.
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  I try to catch it when I can.
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  It is.
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  I...
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  To be fair,
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  I catch that in Death By every
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  week just to hear where
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  people's thoughts and
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  feelings are for our shows.
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  Just so I can kind of hear a
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  smattering of different topic thoughts.
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  Yeah.
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  And those are kind of the
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  two hot topic shows.
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  Right.
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  I do like Peter's because it
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  is so succinct.
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  it's done in 30 minutes and, you know,
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  so you can get in and out pretty good.
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  Um, or death by,
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  they can kind of go on for a while.
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  Yeah.
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  I also thoroughly enjoy
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  Peter's sense of humor.
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  He's hilarious.
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  And I love it.
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  So another thing happened on
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  the way to this show is, um,
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  Andrew Hiller,
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  Broke news just about an
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  hour and a half ago.
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  Maybe a little longer.
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  Yeah.
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  I've been in interviews,
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  so it's hard to like your time.
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  That some of the semifinal
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  workouts have been released.
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  We have a leak.
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  There's a leak in the boat.
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  And it was confirmed by John
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  Young that some coaches already had it.
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  Oh.
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  By the time Hiller posted it.
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  So if you watch the Savant
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  show from this afternoon,
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  I listened to it on the way
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  to the gym and on the way home.
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  Yeah,
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  John Young says that some of the
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  coaches he knew have it.
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  Dang, I need to get on that list.
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  Well,
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  and so that brings up a lot of questions.
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  So first, I'm going to put up the...
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  their workouts that were leaked.
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  Um, there it is.
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  Carolyn already is jumping in.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm not surprised either.
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  Carolyn, uh,
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  not surprised at all by the
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  fact that some coaches had it.
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  Not at all.
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  That's a problem.
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  Yeah.
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  That's a major problem.
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  One thing that was brought
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  up by Brian spin on that
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  show is that the circle has
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  to be bigger than it used to be.
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  Right.
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  For semifinals,
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  you've got people in Africa,
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  got people in China,
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  you got people in South
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  America that have to know
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  what the workouts are and
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  the layouts to be able to get equipment,
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  get floors ready, get venues ready.
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  Yup.
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  So that circle is way bigger.
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  And we don't know if this
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  leak came from HQ or from
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  just some random guy
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  putting a rig together in South America.
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  Yeah.
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  Friends of athletes test
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  things can leak there.
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  So, Carolyn,
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  we are in a sport where
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  friends of athletes test workouts.
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  Things can leak there.
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  Then all the regions know the workouts,
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  so stuff can get leaked there too.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, I think there's a... I mean,
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  I'm not surprised given the
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  logistics of the semifinals
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  this year at all that it got leaked.
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  There's so many more people in the circle,
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  so many more opportunities
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  for wandering eyes.
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  You know,
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  HQ doesn't have that tight locus
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  of control that they
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  usually do on the events
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  and the workouts.
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  So...
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  I mean, as a coach, I guess,
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  if I'm not on the list of
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  coaches to get it sent to them,
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  then I'm glad that Hillard
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  posted it publicly.
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  But I also...
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  I mean, you've known me a good while now.
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  I get pretty fired up when I coach,
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  and I do have a certain
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  level of aggression when it's game time.
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  So my inner coach thought,
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  not looking at it from the
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  nuts and bolts of the sport,
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  is I don't give a shit.
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  We're going to go do what we
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  need to do anyways.
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  So I want to throw this at you.
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  And we're always talking
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  about the sport and the methodology,
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  right?
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  Yeah.
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  The methodology to train
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  general physical
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  preparedness has the term
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  unknown and unknowable.
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  And it is so that you coming
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  into the gym as average Joe
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  are going to do something
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  different every day.
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  It's constantly varied.
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  You don't know what that is going to be.
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  You can't prepare for that.
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  It just is what it is.
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  Somehow that term has
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  flipped over to the sport.
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  But I ask you this.
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  We know what the events of
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  the Olympics are,
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  and it doesn't make it less dramatic.
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  Yeah.
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  So why do we need to hide
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  what these workouts are
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  until last minute?
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  I don't.
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  Especially if some are
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  getting it leaked to them
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  and some are not.
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  Right.
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  I don't personally see an
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  issue if the workouts were released, say,
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  the end of quarterfinals or
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  when the leaderboard was finalized.
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  it's hard because some
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  people will have longer time to prepare.
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  Some people won't,
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  but we had that in the
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  regional system and
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  everybody just kind of
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  understood that the last people to go,
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  we're going to probably put
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  up the fastest times
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  because they had the most
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  time to prepare.
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  They could watch other high
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  level athletes do it and
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  strategize and things like that.
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  I don't necessarily fall in
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  the camp where I want a set, you know,
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  event list year to year.
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  I do like that it changes, but I also, uh,
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  do think it would be nice if we had,
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  especially for the prior
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  stages of the season
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  quarters and the open, we had, you know,
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  kind of like a list,
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  like people have talked about of 50, 40,
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  60, however many movements like, Hey,
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  these are the things.
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  And then for quarterfinals,
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  it's all those things from
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  the open plus these for semifinals,
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  it could be a little more elusive,
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  but perhaps we get the
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  workouts a little bit earlier and,
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  there's a lot of things that
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  play into this because from
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  a coaching standpoint,
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  knowing the workouts early
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  is a nightmare.
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  It's like,
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  how many times can I make them
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  do this or a version of
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  this to perfect it on game
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  day without making them
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  sick and tired of doing this workout,
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  getting an overuse injury
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  from doing the same
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  fricking movement patterns over and over,
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  you know,
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  still trying to preserve general fitness,
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  like not actually letting
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  people get detrained
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  because you're only
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  focusing on these things.
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  So your variance goes down.
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  So it's like, it has a lot of play to it.
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  I don't, I would prefer, of course,
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  that if they were leaked or released,
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  they were done at the same
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  time so that everybody just knows it.
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  But yeah, it's, I don't have...
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  I don't have super strong
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  feelings about the workouts
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  changing and that part of
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  it being unknown and unknowable.
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  I do think though,
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  when we start to use that
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  as an excuse for off the wall movements,
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  it can potentially be an
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  issue and things like that.
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  Also, I think
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  Sometimes that gets brought
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  into the conversation of
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  the way we test movements.
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  So personal bias here,
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  a back loaded ring muscle
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  up is asking for a torn labrum.
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  Like that's a terrible movement.
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  You should never load that
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  dynamic of a movement with
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  a weight behind you.
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  It's a terrible idea.
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  So if that's the
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  justification for something like that,
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  then I would have some
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  arguing points against that.
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  So it's such a nuanced
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  conversation that I think
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  it's hard to have a,
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  a hard stance one way or the other.
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  And there's so many
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  different ways it can apply
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  to different stages in the season.
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  With like these two being known,
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  if they are in fact the real workouts,
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  which there's no reason to
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  believe they're not other
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  than I think Carolyn
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  pointed out in the comments
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  that why two echo bikes.
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  They had two echo bikes last
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  year and they had two
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  assault runner workouts last year.
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  There's no reason it couldn't be.
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  I would be more surprised
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  than the fact that they
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  have echo bikes at every
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  one of these venues,
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  but you can also make the argument.
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  It doesn't matter.
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  If somebody is on an assault
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  fitness bike and somebody
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  is on an assault bike and
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  somebody is on an echo bike,
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  as long as everybody at
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  that regional is the same.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  So with these being known,
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  is there a fear as a coach
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  that you have that athlete
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  that wants to keep drilling
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  this down to perfection
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  that they overuse the
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  muscle and then overtrain
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  it and it creates injury?
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  Yes, exactly.
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  Yeah.
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  You start to hit the same movement pattern,
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  the same exact in the same exact way.
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  So many times with the same loading,
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  right?
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  You're not getting,
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  With the dumbbell,
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  I think the safest
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  assumption with that is
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  it's a 100-pound dumbbell overhead lunge.
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  That would make the most sense.
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  I can't have them do that 16
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  times before then and not
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  start to have shoulder, tricep, elbow,
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  whatever.
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  right start to flare up with
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  people so it's this that's
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  why I almost don't like
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  having them super early
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  because it's this fine
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  balance of okay how many
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  times are we going to do
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  this what other things can
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  I program that simulate
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  this plus perfecting our
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  race day strategy and pacings um
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  it's also mentally hard for
• 18:10
  the athletes like to do
• 18:13
  intervals or even the
• 18:14
  testing of the workout so
• 18:15
  many times prior.
• 18:17
  Like, I mean,
• 18:18
  I know there are athletes who,
• 18:19
  by the time they get to semifinals,
• 18:21
  you have to be careful with the workout.
• 18:22
  If a workout super painful,
• 18:25
  you don't want to be gun
• 18:26
  shy going into semifinals
• 18:28
  of what you're going to experience.
• 18:30
  Right.
• 18:31
  Right.
• 18:31
  It's,
• 18:32
  it's just this kind of annoying balance.
• 18:35
  Um,
• 18:38
  My last question before we
• 18:39
  just look at the workouts
• 18:40
  themselves is Europe goes in two weeks.
• 18:45
  This stuff was going to have
• 18:46
  to be announced soon anyway.
• 18:51
  I think the date was the
• 18:52
  10th in the rulebook.
• 18:55
  So we're a week away.
• 18:56
  We're a week early with the league.
• 19:01
  So the East was going to
• 19:03
  have three weeks with them anyway.
• 19:10
  yeah so it's like does it
• 19:11
  matter yeah I don't know I
• 19:13
  mean it's a little more
• 19:14
  time yeah it's just I just
• 19:17
  think man the crossfit we
• 19:19
  just love drama we just
• 19:23
  love drama um before I pull
• 19:24
  up the workouts here I
• 19:25
  don't carolyn says I don't
• 19:28
  think two echo bikes are
• 19:29
  necessary if you're going
• 19:31
  to do two of the same thing
• 19:33
  it should be running
• 19:35
  I don't disagree,
• 19:36
  but I would caveat that
• 19:37
  with the fact that we had
• 19:38
  the lane eight issue last
• 19:40
  year at the European
• 19:41
  semifinal where everybody
• 19:42
  who ran on lane eight's
• 19:43
  runner got dead last in the workout.
• 19:46
  And I would also say I hate shuttle runs.
• 19:48
  So...
• 19:52
  don't disagree I don't love
• 19:55
  the echo bike a whole bunch
• 19:56
  of times but I at this
• 19:58
  point don't trust the
• 19:59
  efficacy of a fair
• 20:02
  semi-final on assault
• 20:03
  runners because it was
• 20:04
  proven last year that they
• 20:06
  don't have a testable
• 20:09
  repeatable way to calibrate
• 20:10
  those so I have a lot of
• 20:15
  thoughts on that because
• 20:17
  As a volunteer,
• 20:19
  starting my life in
• 20:20
  CrossFit as a volunteer,
• 20:22
  I saw them calibrate those.
• 20:24
  Oh, really?
• 20:25
  I would argue that maybe the
• 20:27
  person in Europe didn't do their job.
• 20:31
  Potentially.
• 20:35
  Or it was just all a coincidence.
• 20:38
  We believe in those.
• 20:39
  Yeah.
• 20:41
  Um, so here are the workouts.
• 20:43
  Do these make sense to you as a,
• 20:45
  as a semifinal workout?
• 20:48
  Yeah.
• 20:49
  Yeah, for sure.
• 20:51
  Uh,
• 20:52
  obviously it would be interesting to
• 20:53
  see if there, you know,
• 20:55
  we don't know anything with this,
• 20:56
  if there's a different echo
• 20:57
  bike calorie prescription
• 20:59
  for the ladies on these, or if, you know,
• 21:03
  it's just expected,
• 21:04
  they're going to be a
• 21:04
  little bit longer on those bikes.
• 21:08
  Um,
• 21:09
  72 foot is a really particular number.
• 21:12
  I imagine that's based off
• 21:14
  of some sort of average
• 21:16
  length of field of play for
• 21:18
  most of the regions.
• 21:18
  15 ring rustle ups isn't
• 21:24
  anything out of pocket.
• 21:26
  Tall box jump overs,
• 21:28
  nothing super crazy there either.
• 21:30
  I mean, the first workout,
• 21:32
  70 echo bite calories,
• 21:33
  14 legless rope climbs,
• 21:35
  10 box jump overs.
• 21:37
  you're going to have a
• 21:38
  little bit of a break
• 21:38
  between the legless.
• 21:39
  So it's a healthy number of
• 21:41
  legless rope climbs.
• 21:42
  That's for sure.
• 21:43
  But I don't think it's
• 21:45
  anything outlandish.
• 21:46
  Um,
• 21:48
  If this is truly one of the workouts,
• 21:50
  I'm a little surprised that
• 21:52
  we don't see the return of the seated.
• 21:54
  I thought those were a very
• 21:56
  good thing to test last year, personally.
• 22:01
  So it's funny you say that
• 22:03
  because if you remember,
• 22:05
  one of the big complaints
• 22:06
  coming out of semis last
• 22:07
  year were that people were
• 22:09
  resting sitting down and it
• 22:11
  was a bad look for a fitness competition.
• 22:16
  But here they're split up.
• 22:20
  Okay.
• 22:21
  People are going to say resting,
• 22:22
  sitting down is a bad look,
• 22:24
  but then I want everybody
• 22:25
  to remember that when they
• 22:26
  watch the first two heats
• 22:27
  of people at semifinals,
• 22:28
  put the dumbbell down four times.
• 22:33
  Okay, cool.
• 22:34
  They'll just be resting, standing up.
• 22:35
  So that looks better, I guess.
• 22:38
  Those were comments that were made.
• 22:40
  Yeah, I mean, it is odd to watch.
• 22:44
  You're not moving quickly, right?
• 22:47
  It takes maybe away a little
• 22:48
  bit of the speed of the
• 22:50
  race with a seated legless.
• 22:54
  But I wouldn't have been
• 22:56
  surprised if those made a
• 22:57
  return this year.
• 22:58
  That's for sure.
• 23:00
  Those wrecked people,
• 23:01
  both at semis and the games.
• 23:04
  Well, in the games, they were tall,
• 23:06
  brother.
• 23:07
  And I know Kelly had mentioned...
• 23:10
  And the Einhorn team,
• 23:12
  when you sat on the mat, you almost sunk.
• 23:16
  So you were starting even a
• 23:17
  little bit lower than you
• 23:18
  would have expected.
• 23:20
  Yeah.
• 23:22
  That alpaca workout was gross.
• 23:25
  Yeah.
• 23:26
  Hands took some damage.
• 23:29
  Oh, yeah.
• 23:31
  So we're good with this.
• 23:33
  We're going to move on to our podcast.
• 23:36
  yeah yeah I don't think
• 23:37
  there's too much to say on
• 23:38
  this other it's the one
• 23:40
  thing I would leave with
• 23:41
  the whole leak thing is
• 23:42
  it's interesting from a
• 23:43
  coach's perspective because
• 23:44
  now it's you almost don't
• 23:47
  have a choice but to act
• 23:48
  under the assumption that
• 23:49
  these are the workouts
• 23:54
  because then if you if you
• 23:55
  don't and they are then
• 23:57
  you're kind of caught with
• 24:00
  your pants down and right
• 24:02
  yeah so it's it's and then
• 24:05
  if they aren't but you did
• 24:07
  them a whole bunch it's
• 24:08
  kind of annoying you're
• 24:09
  like well that was a waste
• 24:10
  of time so at least
• 24:12
  hopefully the movements
• 24:13
  show up if these aren't the
• 24:14
  exact workouts at this
• 24:15
  point there's nothing here
• 24:18
  that wouldn't help you in
• 24:21
  preparing for semis though
• 24:23
  correct like it's just that
• 24:27
  fine line and a fine line
• 24:28
  of overusing right yeah
• 24:33
  All right,
• 24:33
  so we're going to go back to
• 24:34
  quarters and just talk
• 24:36
  about those workouts for a
• 24:37
  second because you made a
• 24:39
  statement on one of our
• 24:40
  shows that the most
• 24:43
  important programming that
• 24:44
  CrossFit will ever do is
• 24:47
  this year's quarterfinals
• 24:49
  because the window to make
• 24:50
  semis was reduced from 60 to 40.
• 24:53
  Yep.
• 24:56
  So it needed to be the most
• 24:57
  well-rounded test possible.
• 25:01
  So we're going to go through this,
• 25:03
  and I want you to explain to me,
• 25:05
  did CrossFit meet that goal or not?
• 25:09
  All right.
• 25:11
  So here is workout one,
• 25:15
  the famous penalty workout.
• 25:18
  The penalty workout, the slaughterhouse.
• 25:20
  Yes.
• 25:22
  It was four rounds for max
• 25:23
  reps of one minute of snatches,
• 25:26
  one minute of rowing for calories,
• 25:29
  one minute of dumbbell box step-ups,
• 25:31
  one minute of rest.
• 25:35
  I liked this workout in the sense,
• 25:40
  I like this workout more in
• 25:42
  how it fit in with the
• 25:43
  totality of the other
• 25:45
  workouts than as a
• 25:46
  standalone test for a
• 25:48
  quarterfinals workout.
• 25:50
  Especially when on the men's side,
• 25:53
  we take into account the
• 25:54
  snatches really didn't matter.
• 25:57
  It didn't behoove the men to
• 26:00
  snatch very much.
• 26:01
  It was get some reps here to help yourself,
• 26:04
  and then what can you do on
• 26:06
  the rower and still hammer the step-ups,
• 26:10
  right?
• 26:11
  I did like the 20-inch box
• 26:14
  for both genders, I think, with...
• 26:19
  just a lot of height
• 26:20
  discrepancy from human
• 26:22
  being to human being.
• 26:23
  I think that is a fair thing.
• 26:24
  You know,
• 26:25
  I'm nowhere close to most of my athletes,
• 26:28
  but if I do box step overs
• 26:30
  on a 24 against some athletes that are,
• 26:34
  that I coached that are shorter than me,
• 26:35
  I can hold my own just cause I'm tall.
• 26:38
  Right.
• 26:41
  Um,
• 26:43
  I liked the fact that it was
• 26:46
  an interval test.
• 26:48
  I think it fit the bill of a
• 26:51
  power output-y-ish workout well.
• 26:56
  As a general rule of thumb,
• 26:58
  I don't love AMRAPs in competition,
• 27:01
  but I also understand those
• 27:03
  are probably not ever going
• 27:04
  to disappear completely.
• 27:07
  But overall, as a standalone workout,
• 27:09
  I wouldn't have loved it.
• 27:11
  When you look at the other three,
• 27:13
  I think it fit very well.
• 27:17
  My argument for your AMRAP
• 27:18
  is that this was a long
• 27:23
  time to get four workouts in.
• 27:26
  So if ever you're going to do an AMRAP,
• 27:29
  this is probably the weekend to do it.
• 27:31
  Yeah, I would agree with that.
• 27:36
  In my observations watching Jamie, Haley,
• 27:39
  Jim,
• 27:41
  and some of the general population of
• 27:44
  Jamie's gym do this workout
• 27:47
  is a lot of people underestimated it.
• 27:49
  Yeah.
• 27:51
  Really underestimated it.
• 27:54
  This is the only one I didn't do.
• 27:57
  Let's put it like that.
• 27:59
  I had no desire for that smoke.
• 28:03
  Yeah, Haley... I mean,
• 28:04
  Haley got into the second
• 28:05
  round and realized she had
• 28:07
  jacked her heart rate to a
• 28:09
  point it was not going to recover.
• 28:12
  Yep.
• 28:13
  Put the dumbbells down, called it a day,
• 28:17
  came back and did it the next day.
• 28:18
  Lived to fight another day.
• 28:19
  That's good.
• 28:20
  I did like...
• 28:23
  that there was a certain
• 28:24
  amount of strategy to it.
• 28:25
  I just don't like when that
• 28:27
  bleeds in from you can strategize it to,
• 28:31
  well,
• 28:31
  really you strategizing it is just
• 28:33
  the same way that
• 28:34
  everybody's going to do it.
• 28:36
  Right.
• 28:36
  Like putting your eggs in those baskets,
• 28:38
  so to speak.
• 28:41
  Yeah.
• 28:41
  I, you can probably convince me I'm wrong,
• 28:46
  but I thought for some athletes,
• 28:49
  their best bet was to snatch like crazy.
• 28:53
  And forget about this box step-ups.
• 28:56
  For general population people,
• 28:59
  just doing quarterfinals to do them, yes.
• 29:03
  But everybody who is trying
• 29:04
  to be in the top 40,
• 29:06
  those step-ups were it.
• 29:10
  Okay.
• 29:11
  You got to think,
• 29:11
  a good score on those step-ups,
• 29:14
  we're talking 20-plus a round,
• 29:16
  that's a large ask.
• 29:20
  Even if you're holding...
• 29:22
  say somebody could do 13 snatches,
• 29:26
  those seven more snatches in that minute,
• 29:30
  that's a tall ask.
• 29:32
  Okay.
• 29:33
  Right.
• 29:34
  That's why you're the coach
• 29:35
  and I'm the media guy.
• 29:38
  I also watched a lot of
• 29:39
  people do this and thought
• 29:40
  about it a lot.
• 29:42
  All right.
• 29:43
  So let's go to workout two.
• 29:46
  The grinder.
• 29:48
  The grinder.
• 29:52
  This was three rounds for time,
• 29:53
  50 wall ball shots,
• 29:55
  50 lateral burpee box jump overs.
• 29:59
  Not really,
• 30:00
  didn't have to be burpee lateral,
• 30:03
  but those that were doing
• 30:06
  it fast kind of went lateral.
• 30:08
  Mm-hmm.
• 30:09
  Yeah.
• 30:11
  I think the decision to call
• 30:13
  it lateral but then not
• 30:14
  mandate the lateral was
• 30:16
  from kind of the lack – not
• 30:18
  wanting to do floor plans,
• 30:19
  measuring tape under the box,
• 30:21
  that kind of stuff.
• 30:22
  So I think it would have
• 30:24
  just been – if they didn't
• 30:26
  want the scrutiny of it,
• 30:27
  they should have just said
• 30:28
  burpee box jump overs.
• 30:30
  Orient yourself however you would like,
• 30:33
  right?
• 30:36
  My media observation of this workout was –
• 30:39
  Find your pace.
• 30:43
  Very correct.
• 30:43
  And hold that pace to the bitter end.
• 30:47
  Yep.
• 30:48
  Come hell or high water.
• 30:50
  That is... So this was...
• 30:52
  This is actually a really
• 30:53
  interesting workout, I think,
• 30:55
  from a coaching perspective.
• 30:56
  So this was our 5K run.
• 30:59
  This was our 5K row of quarterfinals.
• 31:02
  But...
• 31:04
  crossfit did it in a way
• 31:06
  where from a crossfit
• 31:08
  methodology programming
• 31:09
  perspective it was a weight
• 31:11
  lifting and gymnastics
• 31:12
  movement we have a loaded
• 31:16
  movement in the wall ball
• 31:17
  and then we have a body
• 31:18
  weight movement in the
• 31:19
  burpee box jump overs right
• 31:22
  but the stimulus was long
• 31:27
  aerobic capacity right
• 31:31
  muscle endurance that kind
• 31:32
  of stuff so it was
• 31:35
  it was good in a sense to
• 31:37
  see something like this again,
• 31:39
  I think as a community,
• 31:42
  we've gotten away from
• 31:43
  testing engine without
• 31:46
  leveraging machines a lot of the time.
• 31:50
  And you know,
• 31:50
  the older CrossFit programming,
• 31:53
  large chippers with a ton
• 31:55
  of reps with lighter weight
• 31:57
  kind of movements that you
• 31:58
  can still be cyclical with were a staple.
• 32:01
  Um,
• 32:04
  You're absolutely right, though.
• 32:04
  This was how well can you pace yourself?
• 32:08
  Can you sustain it?
• 32:10
  And there was absolutely nowhere to hide.
• 32:13
  If you didn't have the ability to sustain,
• 32:16
  be aerobic throughout this whole piece,
• 32:18
  keep moving on those burpees,
• 32:20
  keep moving through those wall balls,
• 32:22
  then you were just going to
• 32:23
  have a bad day.
• 32:25
  And I saw two types of athletes.
• 32:29
  The athletes that died on the last set
• 32:32
  the athletes who could pick
• 32:33
  up the pace just one gear
• 32:36
  higher just a smidge yep
• 32:38
  yeah yeah I mean speaking
• 32:40
  from like a you know an
• 32:43
  actual practical
• 32:44
  perspective when jacob and
• 32:47
  I game planned his pacing
• 32:48
  for this we basically game
• 32:50
  planned a 19-minute finish
• 32:53
  and he finished his first
• 32:55
  round exactly on pace
• 32:59
  And then he finished his
• 33:00
  second round exactly on pace.
• 33:04
  His score ended up being
• 33:05
  just over 19 minutes.
• 33:07
  And that's because when he
• 33:08
  started to pick it up,
• 33:10
  he jumped off the box.
• 33:14
  So he had to run around,
• 33:15
  do another burpee box up
• 33:16
  over and ended up, he would have been,
• 33:18
  you know, sub 19, but that to your point,
• 33:22
  that is how that workout should go,
• 33:24
  right?
• 33:24
  You should be on pace,
• 33:26
  perfectly holding steady,
• 33:29
  very uncomfortable from
• 33:31
  minute eight through,
• 33:34
  but not going to fall apart.
• 33:36
  And then somewhere in those
• 33:37
  last 50 burpees,
• 33:38
  depending on your level of fitness, you,
• 33:41
  you kind of bite down on the mouthpiece.
• 33:45
  As an athlete,
• 33:47
  what is the fear going
• 33:49
  through your head that
• 33:50
  you're going to notch up
• 33:52
  that gear just a hair too early?
• 33:56
  You can't come back.
• 33:57
  Right.
• 33:58
  You can't come back.
• 33:59
  I mean,
• 34:00
  so I got roped into doing this with
• 34:03
  some other Ascend athletes.
• 34:05
  And I finished my first round at 640,
• 34:08
  which is exactly on pace to finish.
• 34:11
  Looked at the clock and was like, well,
• 34:13
  that's not happening again.
• 34:14
  So just kind of muddled
• 34:15
  through the middle round.
• 34:17
  I was with another one of our athletes,
• 34:19
  Dion, going into the last wall balls.
• 34:22
  He got a little bit ahead of me.
• 34:24
  We had about a minute 15,
• 34:29
  a minute 30 on the burpees.
• 34:33
  And I said, I'm going to go get him.
• 34:36
  And I just started pushing my burpees.
• 34:38
  Did eight or nine, looked up the clock,
• 34:42
  and we had 45 seconds left.
• 34:45
  And I was like, crap.
• 34:47
  Because even that, for me, where I was at,
• 34:49
  I tipped over that red line.
• 34:51
  And then those last 45 seconds,
• 34:54
  I just had to go to moving
• 34:56
  and surviving pace.
• 34:57
  And then I tried to pick it
• 34:58
  up for a couple more at the end.
• 35:00
  So if you do that...
• 35:03
  you know,
• 35:03
  if you're on a pace to finish
• 35:04
  that workout and you're fit
• 35:05
  enough to finish that workout,
• 35:07
  but you do that on burpee box,
• 35:09
  jump over 10 of the last 50,
• 35:12
  that's a bad day.
• 35:16
  Yeah.
• 35:17
  All right.
• 35:18
  So we got to go here.
• 35:23
  Number three, my favorite one.
• 35:27
  Four time, three rounds,
• 35:28
  10 handstand push-ups, 20 toes to bar.
• 35:31
  Two rounds, 10 strict handstand push-ups,
• 35:34
  five rope climbs.
• 35:35
  One round,
• 35:36
  10 chest to wall handstand push-ups,
• 35:38
  20 muscle-ups.
• 35:40
  Time cap, 15 minutes.
• 35:43
  So this one was all gymnastics, right?
• 35:46
  So,
• 35:47
  and this is where I think it's good to
• 35:49
  start talking about how
• 35:50
  this all fits together.
• 35:51
  So we have a pure gymnastics workout.
• 35:53
  We had technically a
• 35:55
  weightlifting and gymnastics workout,
• 35:56
  but the stimulus was very
• 35:58
  aerobic and long.
• 36:00
  The time cap on this is long,
• 36:01
  but the competitive times is not long,
• 36:04
  right?
• 36:05
  And then we had that, what was it,
• 36:07
  15 minutes of work,
• 36:09
  but it was more power-based
• 36:10
  on the first one.
• 36:11
  You kind of had to really
• 36:12
  hustle for about three minutes,
• 36:14
  and then you could have
• 36:15
  your minute of recovery.
• 36:19
  I liked the progressive
• 36:21
  nature of the handstand
• 36:22
  pushup as a separator.
• 36:25
  in this workout I also liked
• 36:27
  the rope climb volume I
• 36:29
  thought it was appropriate
• 36:31
  for semi or for quarter
• 36:34
  final stage not something
• 36:37
  that you know is going to
• 36:39
  completely like you can't
• 36:41
  win this workout on the
• 36:42
  rope climbs but you can
• 36:43
  lose your score on the rope
• 36:45
  climbs if you're not
• 36:46
  proficient um and then
• 36:49
  finishing with 20 ring muscle ups I think
• 36:54
  This is something that we've
• 36:55
  seen over the last couple
• 36:57
  years of quarterfinals tests.
• 36:59
  We had the 21 wall facing
• 37:02
  last year on the first one,
• 37:03
  we had the nine rope climbs.
• 37:05
  So having some sort of a
• 37:06
  very taxing dense set of
• 37:10
  gymnastics to finish might
• 37:13
  be a trend that we continue
• 37:14
  to see rather than
• 37:15
  dispersing the volume
• 37:17
  throughout the workouts or
• 37:19
  a workout into more manageable sets.
• 37:24
  This was my favorite workout
• 37:25
  of quarterfinals as a test.
• 37:27
  I really liked this.
• 37:30
  I liked that athletes could
• 37:33
  play to their strengths a
• 37:34
  little bit on this one and
• 37:37
  still get competitive times
• 37:39
  for their regions.
• 37:41
  You didn't have to
• 37:42
  necessarily go unbroken on
• 37:44
  the toes to bar and the
• 37:45
  kipping or the strict, right?
• 37:47
  You didn't have to go as
• 37:49
  fast as you could on the rope climbs.
• 37:52
  It was more,
• 37:53
  how do you move through these
• 37:54
  first five rounds and set
• 37:57
  yourself up for success on
• 37:58
  those 20 muscle ups?
• 38:00
  And that strategy would be
• 38:01
  different for different athletes for,
• 38:03
  as an example for Jamie, right?
• 38:06
  We knew, okay, we got to get ahead, right?
• 38:10
  For Jacob,
• 38:12
  who ended up redoing this and
• 38:13
  did a lot better his second time,
• 38:15
  it was more,
• 38:16
  how do we have you better
• 38:18
  when you get to the rings,
• 38:20
  even if it's just around the same time,
• 38:22
  so that we can hold
• 38:24
  potentially better sets, right?
• 38:28
  I think, too,
• 38:29
  if you're the elite of the elite,
• 38:31
  this was a pure muscle-up
• 38:33
  workout and how you manage
• 38:35
  yourself to get there.
• 38:37
  If you...
• 38:38
  are a fringe semifinal athlete,
• 38:42
  it could be a couple things.
• 38:45
  There are two stoppers in
• 38:46
  this workout that if you're
• 38:48
  not proficient at,
• 38:49
  could stop you from being successful.
• 38:52
  And that is the handstand
• 38:53
  pushups or the rope climb.
• 38:59
  So I watched Jamie and Haley do this.
• 39:04
  They are very different athletes.
• 39:07
  Very different athletes.
• 39:10
  For Haley,
• 39:11
  it wasn't that the handstand
• 39:12
  push-ups stopped her.
• 39:14
  It just slowed her down.
• 39:15
  Yep.
• 39:17
  To where she gets to the
• 39:18
  ring muscle-ups and she
• 39:19
  just doesn't have a lot of time.
• 39:21
  Right.
• 39:23
  Right.
• 39:24
  She was proficient at the rope climbs,
• 39:27
  but side-by-side, her and Jamie... Like,
• 39:29
  Jamie is proficient at
• 39:31
  everything leading up to
• 39:33
  those muscle-ups.
• 39:34
  Mm-hmm.
• 39:35
  And it was about...
• 39:38
  could she string them together?
• 39:40
  Right.
• 39:40
  When she got there.
• 39:42
  Right.
• 39:44
  Yeah.
• 39:45
  I,
• 39:45
  I'm a big fan of rope climbs personally.
• 39:48
  I'm really glad they were in
• 39:50
  quarterfinals.
• 39:51
  I think it's a good thing to test.
• 39:52
  I don't think,
• 39:53
  I know there was some
• 39:54
  pushback on some other shows.
• 39:56
  Maybe it was barbell spin.
• 39:58
  And I thought I saw
• 39:59
  something else on another
• 40:00
  channel about rope climbs being a, um,
• 40:04
  uncommon movement or this
• 40:05
  that and the other and I
• 40:06
  thought it was perfect two
• 40:08
  weeks ish before
• 40:10
  quarterfinals the main site
• 40:11
  workout of the day was 30
• 40:12
  rope climbs for time so I
• 40:16
  I'm a big fan of rope
• 40:17
  climbs I program you can
• 40:18
  ask any of the any of the
• 40:19
  athletes I coach or a lot
• 40:21
  of our ascend athletes I
• 40:22
  program a lot of rope
• 40:23
  climbs uh I have a running
• 40:25
  joke if you're trying to be
• 40:26
  competitive rope climbs are
• 40:27
  a monostructural movement
• 40:29
  not a gymnastics movement
• 40:32
  you should just if you can
• 40:33
  get to a place on those
• 40:34
  rope climbs where you just
• 40:35
  breathe and move uh it's a
• 40:37
  game changer I'll tell you
• 40:40
  what I've seen a lot of
• 40:42
  crossfit in my days my
• 40:44
  co-host and my friend she
• 40:46
  can kick ass on rope climbs
• 40:48
  she's a monster at rope
• 40:49
  climbs dude oh my gosh I
• 40:51
  love it it is first as
• 40:54
  small as she is to be a two pool
• 40:58
  Rope climber is just insane.
• 40:59
  It's amazing.
• 41:00
  It makes me so happy every
• 41:01
  time I watch her do rope climbs.
• 41:04
  I get chills right now.
• 41:06
  Yeah.
• 41:06
  She's great at them.
• 41:08
  Yeah.
• 41:09
  So then we finish up with a workout four.
• 41:16
  And that is the ladder.
• 41:18
  Yep.
• 41:21
  So you talked, we had power output.
• 41:26
  We had the engine workout
• 41:30
  mixed modal engine test.
• 41:31
  Yeah.
• 41:32
  Yeah.
• 41:32
  We have the pure gymnastics
• 41:36
  and now we have pure barbell,
• 41:38
  pure barbell, single modality.
• 41:41
  So I actually had a
• 41:44
  conversation with one of
• 41:45
  our other coaches two days
• 41:47
  ago about this workout.
• 41:48
  Cause he, he's an Olympic lifter by trade.
• 41:51
  Um,
• 41:53
  done CrossFit for many years, um,
• 41:55
  been on some teams that
• 41:56
  have been to the games and
• 41:57
  stuff like that,
• 41:58
  but he is a very purist
• 42:00
  when it comes to weightlifting.
• 42:01
  And he was making the
• 42:02
  argument to me that this
• 42:03
  isn't a strength workout.
• 42:06
  Um, and I disagree.
• 42:08
  I think,
• 42:09
  especially at the quarterfinal level,
• 42:10
  this very much was a strength test.
• 42:12
  It did the job of testing strength.
• 42:14
  Um,
• 42:17
  Jacob finished this.
• 42:18
  He went in with a really, really good plan,
• 42:20
  executed really well.
• 42:21
  Hattie had a similar plan,
• 42:23
  a little bit more variance
• 42:24
  in her strategy.
• 42:25
  But the first thing Jacob
• 42:27
  said to me after he got up
• 42:28
  off the floor was,
• 42:29
  you can't do well at that
• 42:30
  and not be strong.
• 42:34
  And he's 100% correct.
• 42:36
  So this tested strength in a
• 42:37
  CrossFit manner,
• 42:39
  you had a buy-in of grace
• 42:40
  at ascending load.
• 42:43
  And then you had to AMRAP
• 42:45
  245 as many times as you could,
• 42:47
  or 165 for the ladies as
• 42:49
  many times you could in the
• 42:50
  remaining time.
• 42:51
  So it was a very
• 42:51
  cross-fitting way to test strength,
• 42:53
  but I think it was an
• 42:54
  appropriate way to test
• 42:56
  strength at this corner final stage,
• 42:58
  especially with a bigger
• 43:00
  pool of athletes relative
• 43:02
  to a one rep max or something like that.
• 43:04
  Cause you could have had people,
• 43:06
  if they would have
• 43:06
  programmed a pure one RM
• 43:08
  that didn't have any kind
• 43:09
  of fitness requirement,
• 43:10
  you could have had people who
• 43:14
  maybe barely did four rounds
• 43:18
  on the previous workout and
• 43:20
  then could have just smoked
• 43:22
  a 370-pound clean and jerk.
• 43:26
  I know athletes at local
• 43:27
  gyms in Houston who have that potential.
• 43:32
  So I think this balanced
• 43:34
  things well for the
• 43:36
  leaderboard needing to
• 43:39
  the people who are strong
• 43:39
  enough and fit enough,
• 43:41
  we're going to place very
• 43:42
  well in this test.
• 43:43
  Right.
• 43:46
  And I actually, I did this one as well.
• 43:48
  And Jacob and I had a good
• 43:49
  conversation about it.
• 43:50
  Cause he like watched me slash judged me.
• 43:53
  And so Jacob got 28 reps.
• 43:58
  I got six.
• 44:00
  That's the difference.
• 44:02
  But that,
• 44:02
  that perfectly highlights the
• 44:04
  difference between it being
• 44:06
  a strength test and a fitness test.
• 44:10
  right?
• 44:11
  For him,
• 44:12
  he had to be fit enough to keep
• 44:14
  moving that bar.
• 44:17
  I just not strong enough.
• 44:18
  It doesn't matter.
• 44:19
  Yeah.
• 44:20
  Right.
• 44:21
  So I actually really liked
• 44:22
  how they did this.
• 44:23
  I did think it was interesting.
• 44:24
  And I guess this bleeds into
• 44:26
  probably one of my biggest
• 44:27
  takeaways from the test.
• 44:28
  I thought it was interesting
• 44:29
  that it was single modality,
• 44:32
  even though it had some volume to it.
• 44:35
  So when we zoom out, so let me,
• 44:38
  Reset this conversation.
• 44:40
  Coming into this,
• 44:41
  you made the claim that
• 44:43
  this was the most important
• 44:45
  programming that CrossFit
• 44:46
  was going to do because of
• 44:48
  the short window for people
• 44:51
  to qualify for semifinals
• 44:53
  and how many people were
• 44:54
  going to be competing.
• 44:56
  It had to be perfectly programmed.
• 44:59
  Did CrossFit meet that expectation?
• 45:02
  Go.
• 45:04
  I would say yes with an
• 45:05
  asterisk just because of
• 45:08
  all of the shenanigans
• 45:10
  surrounding the step-ups.
• 45:14
  From an energy system, loading, skill,
• 45:20
  testing, balance testing, yes.
• 45:23
  I think they did a very good job.
• 45:25
  I think from testing the
• 45:28
  fitness perspective,
• 45:31
  the right people are moving on.
• 45:34
  right?
• 45:35
  Even those people who got
• 45:36
  bonked out because of a penalty,
• 45:37
  if they were in,
• 45:38
  I think they fit that bill, right?
• 45:45
  I was very pleased with the
• 45:46
  workouts overall,
• 45:47
  especially after things
• 45:49
  have actually kind of
• 45:49
  calmed down and I could sit
• 45:50
  and kind of think about them a lot more.
• 45:53
  Something that I thought was
• 45:54
  interesting that is a
• 45:57
  little bit different from
• 45:58
  what we've seen in the past is
• 46:01
  To me,
• 46:01
  when you look at these four workouts
• 46:03
  on a piece of paper,
• 46:03
  it is almost like a CrossFit combine.
• 46:10
  So you have an interval test
• 46:13
  that requires high power output.
• 46:16
  You have a long aerobic test
• 46:20
  that requires muscle endurance, right?
• 46:23
  And bounding.
• 46:24
  Then you have a pure gymnastics test.
• 46:31
  with varied skill and things like that.
• 46:33
  And then you have a pure
• 46:35
  single modality
• 46:36
  weightlifting test that
• 46:37
  requires both strength and fitness.
• 46:40
  A lot of times in
• 46:41
  quarterfinals of the past,
• 46:43
  we've seen loading and
• 46:45
  skill much more evenly
• 46:47
  distributed throughout the workouts.
• 46:49
  Last year,
• 46:49
  we had crossovers and 70 pound
• 46:53
  dumbbell snatch for the men,
• 46:54
  50 pounds for the ladies.
• 46:55
  We had heavy front squats with gymnastics.
• 46:58
  We had moderate to
• 47:00
  moderate to kind of heavy
• 47:01
  deadlifts with gymnastics.
• 47:04
  And then we had the row GHD
• 47:05
  is kind of this longer test.
• 47:07
  When we look at this year and last year,
• 47:10
  it's kind of pretty
• 47:12
  different in how they
• 47:14
  structured these pieces in the testing,
• 47:18
  but it's still,
• 47:19
  I think did a very good job.
• 47:21
  Obviously your athletes that
• 47:22
  are on the bubble and
• 47:23
  fighting for those bubble spots,
• 47:25
  the programming structure
• 47:27
  matters a lot more than,
• 47:29
  for them to perform and, you know,
• 47:30
  possibly punch a ticket.
• 47:33
  But I just thought it was an
• 47:34
  interesting observation
• 47:36
  that it kind of seemed to
• 47:37
  me like they were testing
• 47:40
  specific different modality
• 47:42
  or different themes of CrossFit,
• 47:44
  so to speak, in each, you know,
• 47:46
  each of these tests.
• 47:47
  But then when you put it all together,
• 47:48
  it's relatively well-rounded, I think.
• 47:51
  Kenneth says, that was an awesome analogy,
• 47:54
  CrossFit Combine.
• 47:56
  Thank you.
• 47:57
  It kind of is right.
• 47:58
  Like that's what they're
• 47:59
  trying to do anyway.
• 48:01
  They're trying to show the
• 48:02
  talent of these athletes to
• 48:05
  make sure they get the
• 48:06
  right people onto the next round.
• 48:09
  Yeah.
• 48:10
  And I mean,
• 48:11
  if we're going to continue with
• 48:12
  this kind of combine thought process,
• 48:14
  combine analogy to me,
• 48:16
  if there's a stage where you want that,
• 48:18
  it is quarterfinals.
• 48:20
  What's your bench test?
• 48:21
  What's your 40, right?
• 48:23
  Let me see you run a route.
• 48:24
  Let me see that stuff before
• 48:26
  you go off to the big leagues.
• 48:29
  What do the athletes at the
• 48:30
  NFL Combine call it?
• 48:32
  A cattle call.
• 48:34
  Right.
• 48:34
  25% of the people in the open,
• 48:36
  a huge amount of people
• 48:37
  that you need to funnel
• 48:39
  down to the people that are
• 48:40
  going to be drafted in the NFL.
• 48:42
  Right.
• 48:44
  I love that analogy.
• 48:48
  Yeah.
• 48:50
  I like, I love the tests as a fan.
• 48:54
  What always,
• 48:56
  they always seem to do a
• 48:57
  pretty good job at this level.
• 48:59
  And it's the level that we
• 49:00
  don't get to see as a fan.
• 49:06
  And it's the one I want to see the most.
• 49:11
  Yeah.
• 49:13
  Yeah.
• 49:13
  I mean, I, I,
• 49:17
  I love every athlete that I coach,
• 49:19
  but I will always have a
• 49:21
  special place in my heart
• 49:22
  for the athlete who is
• 49:24
  clawing with everything
• 49:25
  they have to go to semifinals.
• 49:28
  And they just get no love.
• 49:31
  And it's the most stressful
• 49:33
  because you're waiting a
• 49:35
  week for everything to shuffle.
• 49:38
  They're still waiting to see
• 49:40
  who's accepting and who's declining.
• 49:42
  Have you seen Halpin's thing
• 49:43
  about the team alternates?
• 49:46
  Yeah, it's like,
• 49:47
  I guess there's some issue
• 49:48
  with people who are on a team,
• 49:51
  but like roster,
• 49:53
  but listed as the alternate,
• 49:55
  not being able to sign up
• 49:56
  and accept their individual invite.
• 49:58
  I have no idea.
• 49:58
  That was the gist of his
• 49:59
  story that I briefly read.
• 50:02
  I think it's by tomorrow.
• 50:03
  They have to,
• 50:04
  they have to declare team or individual.
• 50:06
  Also, I have no idea what's happening,
• 50:08
  but Madison just called me.
• 50:09
  One of my team athletes just
• 50:11
  text me and one of my team
• 50:12
  group chats went off.
• 50:13
  So I bet the team workouts
• 50:14
  just got released.
• 50:18
  Okay.
• 50:20
  Oh, I love it.
• 50:21
  Um, fun.
• 50:24
  I do think one thing I will
• 50:25
  say about quarterfinals before, you know,
• 50:28
  we, we move on or do whatnot.
• 50:31
  I think it's really
• 50:32
  unfortunate that whether
• 50:35
  it's just because of the
• 50:36
  shock value of people
• 50:37
  getting penalties this year
• 50:39
  relative to years in the
• 50:40
  past or whatever we want to
• 50:41
  put the onus on for what happened with,
• 50:44
  with that, um,
• 50:46
  I think because of that,
• 50:48
  no one is talking about the
• 50:51
  programming other than in a
• 50:53
  bad light with one workout.
• 50:54
  And really,
• 50:58
  there's a lot of bitching going on.
• 51:01
  But if Paige Powers isn't
• 51:02
  one of the people penalized,
• 51:04
  it doesn't even make the front page.
• 51:09
  I said this,
• 51:11
  and I mean this with no disrespect.
• 51:13
  I would feel the same way if
• 51:15
  it was one of my athletes.
• 51:17
  CrossFit got along just fine
• 51:19
  before Paige Powers was doing CrossFit.
• 51:22
  We will be okay.
• 51:24
  It sucks.
• 51:25
  I get it.
• 51:26
  But people really just kind
• 51:29
  of went crazy with some of this stuff.
• 51:31
  I love Paige Powers.
• 51:33
  She is one of my favorite athletes.
• 51:36
  She came on the show early in her career.
• 51:40
  She's a monster, dude.
• 51:42
  But if...
• 51:47
  just uh chase and bill gave
• 51:48
  the programming praise too
• 51:50
  I'm glad I didn't get to
• 51:51
  watch their show I do
• 51:52
  obviously being a super
• 51:54
  nerd usually try to tune
• 51:55
  into their programming
• 51:56
  shows and stuff but uh I
• 51:58
  didn't get to catch that
• 51:59
  one so I use that as a here
• 52:01
  they are oh boy all right
• 52:06
  These are the semifinal team
• 52:08
  athletes or team workouts.
• 52:11
  So I guess we'll go,
• 52:12
  we'll go through these real
• 52:13
  quick and get your first impression.
• 52:14
  Okay.
• 52:15
  I do have to go at the top of the hour.
• 52:16
  So we have about 10 minutes.
• 52:19
  All right.
• 52:20
  Um, so team event one, 30 rope climbs,
• 52:25
  120 wall facing handstand pushups,
• 52:28
  150 calorie echo bike,
• 52:30
  48 foot handstand walk accumulated.
• 52:32
  Anyhow,
• 52:33
  non-working athletes must hold the worm.
• 52:37
  So I'm imagining that's one
• 52:39
  athlete working at a time.
• 52:41
  Or two.
• 52:42
  No one?
• 52:44
  Two might be a tall ask at semifinals.
• 52:48
  Holding the worm with two
• 52:48
  people is really hard.
• 52:50
  Team event two.
• 52:52
  Three cleans.
• 52:54
  Two front squats, one jerk.
• 52:56
  So barbell complex.
• 52:59
  So it's a clean and jerk.
• 53:00
  Basically.
• 53:04
  Okay.
• 53:04
  Yeah.
• 53:06
  uh team event three five
• 53:08
  rounds for time 800 meter
• 53:10
  run 15 worm thrusters so
• 53:13
  we'll have runners there's
• 53:15
  that two and a half mile
• 53:18
  run and team event four
• 53:26
  four time male female pair
• 53:28
  one three rounds 30 calorie
• 53:30
  row 30 overhead squats
• 53:32
  Male-female pair, 290-calorie row,
• 53:34
  90 overhead squats.
• 53:36
  What's the load?
• 53:37
  125, 185.
• 53:39
  Shoo!
• 53:39
  90 at 185?
• 53:39
  Well, I imagine that's split.
• 53:40
  Yeah.
• 53:41
  Yeah.
• 53:42
  It doesn't say synchro, so...
• 53:55
  Event five, four rounds for time,
• 53:57
  five synchro muscle-ups pair one,
• 54:00
  five synchro muscle-ups pair two,
• 54:01
  10 worm clean and jerks,
• 54:03
  15 synchro burpees over the worm,
• 54:06
  one section worm walking lunge.
• 54:09
  I like that.
• 54:13
  And that is it.
• 54:15
  Okay.
• 54:15
  Interesting.
• 54:18
  Only five events instead of six.
• 54:21
  Called that.
• 54:21
  They're only competing two days.
• 54:24
  Is that enough to get the
• 54:25
  best of the games?
• 54:28
  Yes.
• 54:29
  Yeah, I think so.
• 54:31
  I think the difference
• 54:32
  between the top tier teams
• 54:34
  and the bottom is there's a
• 54:36
  pretty big gap.
• 54:37
  Yeah,
• 54:38
  I think just briefly thinking about
• 54:39
  these workouts, your top tier teams,
• 54:41
  you're going to have
• 54:41
  significantly different
• 54:42
  scores for sure on this workout,
• 54:47
  the run workout.
• 54:50
  Carolyn,
• 54:51
  do we like the next lift for five events?
• 54:55
  So full disclosure, myself as a coach,
• 54:58
  I'm kind of tired of testing max lifts.
• 55:01
  I would much rather see
• 55:02
  moderate to heavy barbells
• 55:03
  paired with high skill or
• 55:05
  something like that.
• 55:05
  At this point,
• 55:06
  I just think we could use a
• 55:07
  change for a couple of years.
• 55:08
  That being said,
• 55:09
  I think there's a strong
• 55:11
  argument to make that it's
• 55:14
  going to impact the leaderboard,
• 55:15
  but they haven't really
• 55:17
  rewarded the teams for
• 55:18
  being strong at any point
• 55:20
  in the season so far.
• 55:21
  And again,
• 55:22
  with there only being four
• 55:23
  stages of the season,
• 55:24
  open quarter semis games,
• 55:26
  how long can we make the
• 55:27
  argument that you're not
• 55:29
  allowed to have a max lift yet?
• 55:34
  So I kind of see both sides of that, but.
• 55:41
  Lex,
• 55:41
  that's the same complex Indy had before.
• 55:43
  I do believe it is.
• 55:45
  I think so.
• 55:45
  Yeah.
• 55:48
  In,
• 55:50
  Interesting that they're
• 55:51
  doing clean and jerk after
• 55:53
  the teams did deadlifts and
• 55:55
  shoulder to overhead in quarterfinals,
• 55:57
  which is relatively similar
• 55:58
  movement patterns.
• 56:00
  Full disclosure,
• 56:01
  I was kind of expecting a snatch.
• 56:08
  It's the year of the clean and jerk.
• 56:12
  Max lifts do get the crowd going for sure.
• 56:14
  Maybe the Indies will have a
• 56:15
  snatch variation.
• 56:16
  I think that would be, to me,
• 56:20
  a wee bit too repetitive if
• 56:23
  we had clean and jerk in
• 56:25
  quarterfinals for max reps
• 56:26
  at a moderately heavy load
• 56:27
  and then a clean and jerk 1RM.
• 56:31
  So this is my argument to Wad Zombie,
• 56:34
  right?
• 56:35
  So I've been in the Coliseum
• 56:37
  for some max lift.
• 56:38
  I was there for the sandbag.
• 56:39
  I was there for...
• 56:42
  A lot.
• 56:42
  And the,
• 56:43
  and the roof comes off the
• 56:44
  building in the Coliseum.
• 56:46
  I would argue that the 400 meter,
• 56:49
  not really run into the
• 56:52
  clean and jerk ladder or
• 56:53
  the clean ladder got the
• 56:55
  fans just as hyped as a max lift.
• 57:00
  Yeah.
• 57:01
  And it had a fitness component to it.
• 57:05
  Yeah.
• 57:09
  I'm okay.
• 57:12
  The worm thruster and worm
• 57:14
  clean and jerk is fitness, not strength.
• 57:17
  I have athletes I coach who
• 57:19
  do not have the largest
• 57:20
  clean and jerk in the world,
• 57:21
  and they can absolutely
• 57:23
  hold it together with their
• 57:25
  team doing worm clean and jerks.
• 57:27
  So, yes.
• 57:30
  But I think for most teams
• 57:32
  who are competitive at this point,
• 57:33
  the worm is a test of synchronicity,
• 57:37
  fitness,
• 57:37
  and muscle endurance rather than
• 57:38
  strength.
• 57:39
  Unless they...
• 57:40
  bring out that crazy thing
• 57:41
  that was sectioned out and
• 57:43
  we watch everybody get their ass kicked.
• 57:46
  Now that brought the crowd to their feet.
• 57:48
  Yeah.
• 57:49
  People were scared.
• 57:49
  Someone's going to die.
• 57:50
  Yeah.
• 57:52
  Um, as I said yesterday on coffee pods,
• 57:55
  nobody watches sports for safety.
• 57:57
  This is true.
• 57:59
  Just,
• 57:59
  just remember the people like me who
• 58:01
  are in the back, like,
• 58:05
  Carolyn is not happy.
• 58:07
  She's not happy.
• 58:08
  I don't disagree.
• 58:09
  And I, I haven't,
• 58:12
  I haven't looked at it more
• 58:13
  than what we just saw, but it does.
• 58:15
  I mean, you have muscle up handstand,
• 58:17
  push up, clean and jerk thruster worm.
• 58:22
  Yeah.
• 58:23
  So a good bit of overhead work,
• 58:26
  which I mean, they did dumbbell snatch,
• 58:28
  shouldered overhead.
• 58:30
  ring muscle up premium on
• 58:32
  ring muscle ups at this
• 58:33
  point um handstand push-ups
• 58:39
  in quarterfinals so yeah I
• 58:43
  would say that she's on to
• 58:44
  something there with
• 58:45
  potentially some redundant
• 58:46
  overhead work um Carolyn
• 58:50
  says I'm not saying I'm not
• 58:51
  happy I'm just looking at
• 58:53
  movement patterns Carolyn
• 58:55
  I'm still salty that you
• 58:57
  got way more votes than I
• 58:58
  did on our drafted teams
• 59:05
  I like two and a half mile run.
• 59:08
  I'll be interested to dive into the,
• 59:10
  the flow of that workout.
• 59:13
  No way they have two runner
• 59:15
  or four runners.
• 59:16
  Yeah.
• 59:17
  It's so this is like, it's nice,
• 59:19
  but you don't have the flow
• 59:20
  of the workouts here.
• 59:22
  Right.
• 59:25
  I mean,
• 59:26
  I'm going to make my teams just
• 59:27
  probably run together
• 59:28
  because now we'll do some
• 59:31
  different variations of it.
• 59:33
  I'm sure if you go to the website,
• 59:35
  they probably have the full descriptions.
• 59:38
  Or they'll be up tonight or tomorrow.
• 59:43
  I guess CrossFit just said, screw it.
• 59:46
  The Indies got linked,
• 59:47
  so we'll just drop the team
• 59:48
  workouts to get everybody's
• 59:50
  attention on something else.
• 59:52
  Hey, look over there.
• 59:53
  Yeah, literally.
• 59:56
  All right.
• 59:57
  Well, awesome.
• 59:59
  We did all that and still
• 1:00:00
  got it under an hour.
• 1:00:02
  I think this is the best
• 1:00:03
  we've ever done right there.
• 1:00:06
  Well, thank you everybody for joining in.
• 1:00:08
  Um,
• 1:00:09
  that looks like this thing may become a
• 1:00:10
  weekly thing.
• 1:00:12
  Um,
• 1:00:12
  I just got to get the bumpers for it
• 1:00:15
  and the backdrop.
• 1:00:15
  So we represent what we're
• 1:00:17
  really doing here.
• 1:00:17
  Yeah.
• 1:00:19
  With that being said,
• 1:00:21
  I'm going to go ahead, shut her down and,
• 1:00:25
  uh,
• 1:00:26
  had a Kenya in an hour for my last
• 1:00:29
  Canadian interview of the day.
• 1:00:32
  Um,
• 1:00:32
  this is Canada day on Clydesdale media.
• 1:00:35
  So we are representing
• 1:00:37
  Canada on this one too,
• 1:00:39
  even though he's a Texas guy.
• 1:00:42
  I am a Texas guy now.
• 1:00:44
  Yeah.
• 1:00:44
  So, all right.
• 1:00:45
  With that,
• 1:00:46
  thank you everybody in the chat
• 1:00:47
  for being here.
• 1:00:48
  Thank you, Carolyn, for all your input.
• 1:00:50
  We love it as always.
• 1:00:52
  And we'll see everybody next
• 1:00:53
  time on chopping it up with the,
• 1:00:55
  with coach crispy cream.
• 1:00:57
  Bye guys.