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Preseason Week 1 Preview | Jags Drive Time: Thursday, August 11 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Sullimsell with John
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  Speaker 1: Oceans and Bryan Sexton. Jacks Drive Time starts right now.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, man, Come on, man, Come on man. Richil
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  Speaker 1: Nichols World, Whoop? Who I think I do? Every time
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  Speaker 1: I did? Really come? I know you got a bad
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  Speaker 1: How you get a bad boat? Y'all boy riding round.
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  Speaker 1: Linebacker Shack Cortman miked up in the first preseason game
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  Speaker 1: last week. A guy who was having a great training
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  Speaker 1: camp and is going really going to add to this
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  Speaker 1: depth of the linebacker corp here this preseason. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time, Ashland Sullivan and Brian Sexton here with you.
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  Speaker 1: You can check out that night up on Jaguars dot Com.
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  Speaker 1: Another one for you tomorrow night, because tomorrow night is
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  Speaker 1: preseason game number two, the first home game here in
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  Speaker 1: a very long time, the first home game for Doug Peterson.
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  Speaker 1: And I go back to the draft party and you
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  Speaker 1: saw the look on Coach Peterson's stays when he walked
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  Speaker 1: out on the stage and he solved this mass of
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars fans. I can imagine tomorrow is going to be
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  Speaker 1: a pretty cool moment for him. Yeah, you know he
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  Speaker 1: missed football last year. I mean, I think he enjoyed
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  Speaker 1: and he talked when they hired him about all the
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  Speaker 1: life experiences, the loss of his brother, I think, the
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  Speaker 1: addition of a grandchild, I mean, all of the things
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  Speaker 1: that happened in his life. He was able to be
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  Speaker 1: connected to like coaches generally aren't during the football season. However,
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  Speaker 1: he missed the game and you can see that. You
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  Speaker 1: can hear it in his voice in January. You've seen
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  Speaker 1: it throughout the offseason, and I expect we'll see it
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow night. Absolutely, let's get into big things, shall we.
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  Speaker 1: Very big thing one is starters. We are going to
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  Speaker 1: see the starters for the Jaguars tomorrow night for a
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  Speaker 1: couple of series Tomorrow night at seven o'clock when the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars take on the Browns. Were also going to see
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  Speaker 1: Brown's cornerback to Shawn Watson. That's a whole another topic
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  Speaker 1: that we're going to get into. But Coach Doug Peterson,
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  Speaker 1: what is your philosophy on playing the starters tomorrow night?
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  Speaker 1: This week? I'm gonna let the starter to play, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, get their feet wet, little bitness football game,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of series, Um, nothing to nothing crazy, nothing
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  Speaker 1: too long, but just want to get them the feel
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  Speaker 1: of the game and get him in there and uh
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  Speaker 1: get him work in you know, in in game game situations.
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  Speaker 1: Big thing too is live. Last Sunday's training camp practice
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  Speaker 1: was the most intense training camp practice we have seen
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  Speaker 1: in years, and that is because it was live tackling
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  Speaker 1: to the ground. We're gonna see that again this upcoming Monday.
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  Speaker 1: Coach Peterson has it planned out for two days in
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  Speaker 1: training camp. So safety Andre Cisco, what is the benefit
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  Speaker 1: of a live training camp practice. It's probably what you
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  Speaker 1: get the least when it comes to tracts and football. So, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know when you get these practice to embrace that.
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  Speaker 1: And he said it's on go like everybody's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: on the same type of time. Um, I embrace that
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  Speaker 1: and I'm glad that we get to do it because,
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  Speaker 1: um yeah, I would say you need a few times
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  Speaker 1: before the before the game just to know such a pads.
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  Speaker 1: How did you like to say it in and so
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  Speaker 1: I agree, I think stands up. And finally, big thing
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  Speaker 1: three is competition. Now is the time in training Camper,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna start crunching numbers and try to figure out
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  Speaker 1: who is going to make this final roster. On Saturday
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  Speaker 1: is the first cut day. It goes from night five
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  Speaker 1: man roster. In one position we're really going to pay
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  Speaker 1: attention to is that last wide receiver spot, whether they
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  Speaker 1: keep five, maybe six, someone like a Tim Jones, Jeff Cotton,
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  Speaker 1: Press Taylor, who is going to get that job. They're battling,
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  Speaker 1: They're in the conversation for it. Um, there's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a lot of factors involved. You know, you kind of
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  Speaker 1: want to see as you chause you get through to
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  Speaker 1: the fourth, fifth, sixth receiver what their versatility can be.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You you come in, you
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  Speaker 1: assume you have this started, that started that starter. If
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  Speaker 1: somebody goes down, who can fill in? Do you fill
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  Speaker 1: in one spot? Can you fill in multiple spots? Do
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  Speaker 1: we have to move three guys to get you where
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  Speaker 1: you're comfortable? And then at the same time, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if all things go well and you have three four
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  Speaker 1: really established receivers that are playing well, that fifth guy
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  Speaker 1: sometimes his value becomes more specials. You know, there's not
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  Speaker 1: a lot of reps from a receiver standpoint, So who
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  Speaker 1: steps up? Where is what is he? And Luke's opinion
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  Speaker 1: of that guy and his ability and special and how
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  Speaker 1: can he contribute to the team if he is to
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  Speaker 1: get that jersey on a Sunday press Taylor on the
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  Speaker 1: wide receivers as a whole, and how many are going
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  Speaker 1: to make this team? A big note for tomorrow's game
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  Speaker 1: as Christian Kirk rolling his ankle a couple of days ago.
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  Speaker 1: Will he play? That's uncertain as of now. He's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be fine if he doesn't play. It's preseason game number two.
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  Speaker 1: But with all these new additions, Brian, you would kind
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  Speaker 1: of like to see your offense as a whole together
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  Speaker 1: as one a couple of series. Well, right, And so
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  Speaker 1: I mean I'd come from any or a ware. Guys
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  Speaker 1: played in the first preseason game and they played in
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  Speaker 1: the last preseason game. I mean, you were smart about it,
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  Speaker 1: but you guy guys opportunities through the course of the
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  Speaker 1: entire preseason to get them ready. You just heard Andre
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  Speaker 1: Cisco say that the contact part of the game is
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  Speaker 1: that which you don't get in practice. So you get
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  Speaker 1: to the season, you want to be conditioned for it, right, Um,
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  Speaker 1: So it's a little tough for me. Now I go
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  Speaker 1: back to the postgame show last last Thursday night Friday morning. Um,
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  Speaker 1: we've Doug Peterson, who I thought gave us a very
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  Speaker 1: uh insightful comment about his philosophy. He said, one or
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  Speaker 1: two injuries in August can completely transform the way your
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  Speaker 1: season goes. So he's telling you, look, I want to
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  Speaker 1: get things done. I'm gonna do live practices, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be real cautious with it. So he said a
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  Speaker 1: couple of series. I expect him to hold it that.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of series, maybe two if they get nothing done,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a third. Um, but these guys have got to
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  Speaker 1: get into the game and get tempo going. It would
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  Speaker 1: be different if you were the Tampa Bay Buccaneers right
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  Speaker 1: deep into the playoffs the last couple of years of
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You've got Tom Brady. You don't need as
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  Speaker 1: much and Rogers doesn't need as much. But this is
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  Speaker 1: a new coaching staff with a newly rebuilt offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: I think it is a lot of new names and
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  Speaker 1: faces on defense. You'd like to get some time in
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  Speaker 1: August to work on those against the Browns and the
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  Speaker 1: Dealers and the Falcons. Yeah, and maybe to a surprise
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  Speaker 1: to some is Travis e Ten getting back on the field.
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  Speaker 1: As it was up to travisy Ten, he would have
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  Speaker 1: played last week. And you don't blame the fing to me.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't play him a couple and I don't blame
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  Speaker 1: him at all. I just you're gonna hold your breath
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  Speaker 1: on him, and you're gonna hold your breath in August.
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  Speaker 1: The entire time they're out there. It's just the way
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  Speaker 1: it goes. But they need it, they know they need
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  Speaker 1: it at this point in their career. Their time will
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  Speaker 1: come where you won't see those guys anywhere near a
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  Speaker 1: preseason far from them, but they're not there yet, right
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  Speaker 1: And Travis e Tiene such a moment for him, basically
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  Speaker 1: an entire year of missing game action. And the guy
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  Speaker 1: we saw take a ton of hits in that live
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  Speaker 1: training camp portion, He's gonna take some hits tomorrow as well.
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  Speaker 1: But you can just see the giddiness in his eyes.
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  Speaker 1: He's ready to get back out there. I'm not generally
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  Speaker 1: a skeptical person, but I was really skeptical of his
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  Speaker 1: ability to be where he is right now. It's a
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  Speaker 1: major injury. I know we've said it before. Corey Grant
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  Speaker 1: in eighteen had the exact same injury in Kansas City,
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  Speaker 1: and we never saw him again, right, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I never even saw him in the building again. Normally
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  Speaker 1: you see the guys rehabbing, right, So here's the guy
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  Speaker 1: who relies on that first of explosiveness, like Corey granted.
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  Speaker 1: And to see where he is right now, what's a
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  Speaker 1: testament to him, to the doctors, to the coaching staff
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  Speaker 1: and the way they've worked him back into this. You're
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  Speaker 1: gonna hold your breath on him the first time he
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  Speaker 1: gets up off the field and the next time probably,
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  Speaker 1: But he's a running back. It's what they do. Get
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  Speaker 1: him out on the field, get him used to the contact,
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  Speaker 1: to three series and the get him out right. And
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  Speaker 1: as we are holding our breath on the training camp
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  Speaker 1: field when he took the hardest hit I've ever seen
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  Speaker 1: in my life, and that's with standing on a game
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  Speaker 1: field every Sunday, Trevor Lawrence is like, oh, yeah, he's fine,
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  Speaker 1: no big deal, And I'm like being dramatic on the silence.
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  Speaker 1: It's not the contact that costs is the problem most
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  Speaker 1: to the time, right, it's getting your footstucks somewhere in
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  Speaker 1: the field the contact. These guys are used to the contact,
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  Speaker 1: So really quickly before we exit too big things. One
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  Speaker 1: thing that we are all going to pay attention to
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  Speaker 1: with binoculars is the starting offensive line when they go
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  Speaker 1: out for the first series. The position battle are paying
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  Speaker 1: the most attention to. His right tackle. Is Jawan Taylor
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  Speaker 1: or Walker Little going to run out first? And whoever
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  Speaker 1: it is, I think tells you momentum of who has
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  Speaker 1: that lead job. I don't have any doubt who will
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  Speaker 1: do it in September. I don't know, because you know
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  Speaker 1: how coaches play motivational games with players to get them going.
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  Speaker 1: That right there, Walker Little as your right tackle. He
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  Speaker 1: just has better lateral movement. He's quicker than Juwan Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be the dead horse, but Joan
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  Speaker 1: Taylor belongs inside. That's where I think he is best served.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds like he's going to be the swing tackle if
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't win the job. Right um, But Walker Little
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  Speaker 1: has had a sensational camp. He has looked tremendous from
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  Speaker 1: the start to the finish. That that could change. He
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  Speaker 1: could go out and play very poorly if he has
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  Speaker 1: to line up and Myles Garrett is in the game
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  Speaker 1: at all. But a great Siday night right and I
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  Speaker 1: think you'll do Okay, Um, things can change, but from
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  Speaker 1: what I've seen, I think Walker Little is your right
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  Speaker 1: tackle and what he's your right tackle for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: You're set there now right and all you can ask
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  Speaker 1: for is an opportunity if you're Walker a Little, and
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  Speaker 1: here it is if you're the guy to walk out,
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  Speaker 1: go line up against a great Brown's defensive front, im
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  Speaker 1: prove you're the guy based on what I've seen, based
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  Speaker 1: on what I've seen right now, if they made him
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  Speaker 1: the starting tackle and say he's won the job, I'd
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  Speaker 1: go absolutely, I've seen that right. I wouldn't go hold on,
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  Speaker 1: we haven't seen enough. If you want Taylor, we've seen
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  Speaker 1: you on the last couple of years. We know what
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  Speaker 1: his strengths are, we know where he needs to get better.
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  Speaker 1: Walker Little has played really well. Yeah, and it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: help that Jawan Taylor was fighting an injury last week.
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  Speaker 1: But but these things happen and then it's the next
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  Speaker 1: man up where Walker Little was right there. I want
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  Speaker 1: to say again, everyone is so sensitive to Juan's feelings
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  Speaker 1: because you want it's a great kid, and he would
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  Speaker 1: and and and he was not happy lash year when
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  Speaker 1: he was asked the question in a news conference, what
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  Speaker 1: do you think about playing guard? Will I get played
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  Speaker 1: to play paid? To play tackle? Right? I'm a tackle.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's it's no slight. The guy next to you
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  Speaker 1: makes eighteen million dollars a year. Right, guards get paid.
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  Speaker 1: If you're a great player, you're going to get paid.
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  Speaker 1: But you might not be a great right tackle in
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  Speaker 1: this league. You might be a great guard in this league. Right,
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  Speaker 1: don't be opposed to making eighteen million dollars and playing
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  Speaker 1: three ft to the left of where you've been? Okay
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  Speaker 1: with that? I would you think? I mean, she wants
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  Speaker 1: a great kid. He is not personal. It's just objective.
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  Speaker 1: What you see in Walker little is a pure tackle
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  Speaker 1: and what I see and you want Taylor is a
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  Speaker 1: mauling guard. Yeah, And who's gonna be the better guy
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  Speaker 1: good old days at his time for he will, he won't.
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  Speaker 1: He MIT's the day before a game, which isn't always
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  Speaker 1: how it goes, but we're previewing who we think is
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  Speaker 1: going to have a big game tomorrow for the second
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  Speaker 1: preseason game. Guy we just talked a lot about in
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  Speaker 1: big things that it bears. You know, I went heavy
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  Speaker 1: on Walker Little and he's my He will he won't,
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  Speaker 1: he might so he will be the charting right tackle
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  Speaker 1: for this football team. He has had a tremendous camp.
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  Speaker 1: As I mentioned earlier, He's just very fluid. His feet
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  Speaker 1: are light, his hips are fluid. He moves well, he
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  Speaker 1: gets outside, he can redirect, do all the things that
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  Speaker 1: you hear offensive line coaches do. He is a guy
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  Speaker 1: who has a long, long and bright future playing offensive
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  Speaker 1: tackle in the league. Um, he won't disappoint if he
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  Speaker 1: sees Myles Garrett tomorrow night. Myles Garrett is the best
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  Speaker 1: big path rusher I think in the game today. Sixteen
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  Speaker 1: sacks last season, fifty eight and a half the last
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  Speaker 1: four years, he has just been a tremendous player since
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  Speaker 1: being taken first overall by the Browns. Um And, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that Walker Little will struggle. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: Myles Gerett makes a lot of people struggle. He beats people.
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  Speaker 1: But I think this would be a great opportunity if
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  Speaker 1: he gets into a couple of rounds against him. Again,
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  Speaker 1: it's the preseason. We don't know, um, but he won't
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  Speaker 1: be overmatched by that. Um And he might be the
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  Speaker 1: most interesting guy in the locker room. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 1: he went to Stanford, so you know he's a really
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  Speaker 1: bright guy. Did you know that he was high school
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  Speaker 1: teammates with Caleb and Chaston at Episcopal in Houston, Right, Um,
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  Speaker 1: He's smart, he's funny, he's witty. He's very interesting to
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  Speaker 1: talk to. Um. He might be one of the most
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  Speaker 1: underrated interviews in the locker room. We didn't talk to
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  Speaker 1: him a lot last year, didn't play a lot last year,
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  Speaker 1: just started three games. But I think we'll talk to
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  Speaker 1: him more this year if he's the starting right tackle.
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  Speaker 1: Um And, he might be that guy that becomes a
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  Speaker 1: go to guy because he's very candid. He'll tell you
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  Speaker 1: exactly what he thinks, whether he should or shouldn't, you know,
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  Speaker 1: veterans kind of they know how to say the right thing,
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  Speaker 1: and coaches Walker just gives you a look like, well,
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  Speaker 1: that's the truth, right, which I love. Please give me
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  Speaker 1: young players who just notice say what they know, right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Funny enough. Last week's game was the first time locker
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  Speaker 1: room was open to media and what two years And
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  Speaker 1: we went right up to Walker Little and here comes
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  Speaker 1: Brandon's sheriff to pull out his phone and document that
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  Speaker 1: Walker Little was talking to this scrum of media. They
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  Speaker 1: have this weird rule where if you're an offensive line
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  Speaker 1: and God forbid like to find each other right. They
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  Speaker 1: call themselves the Mushroom Society and I can't tell you
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  Speaker 1: why on the air. But meanwhile, there's some of the
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  Speaker 1: best talkers and best insightful interviews you can get on
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  Speaker 1: the team, Coach Rauscher is because they have an understanding
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  Speaker 1: of what everything everyone around them is doing. Right, um,
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  Speaker 1: so they have to be well versed in what's going on,
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  Speaker 1: and I love their insight. I do too, And I
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  Speaker 1: think it's funny the little who knows if they actually
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  Speaker 1: get fined or not. But if so, Walker Little was
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  Speaker 1: getting a big one because he had like thirty medium
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  Speaker 1: members around him. The league had to step in in
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  Speaker 1: Denver in the late nineties when Gary Zimmer was the
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  Speaker 1: starting left tackle because Gary was literally finding the Broncos
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  Speaker 1: offensive line. They had Terrell Davis and John Elway and
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  Speaker 1: they were you know, this was the best team in
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  Speaker 1: the a f C. And none of the offensive linemen
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  Speaker 1: were talking. So the league had to send him a fine.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was. It became a big deal. You
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  Speaker 1: want to get fine. It's not the first time offensive
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  Speaker 1: lineman have not wanted And and by the way, did
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  Speaker 1: anybody think that the offensive line without Brandon Linder, who
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  Speaker 1: never wanted it, would become less talkative? Right by Brandon? Alright,
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  Speaker 1: my he will, he won't. He might is safety Andre six,
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  Speaker 1: so he will take a giant leap this season starting
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow night, this is your starting safety. And a couple
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  Speaker 1: of months ago, we couldn't say that with confidence. Now,
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  Speaker 1: watching a couple of weeks of training camp practice, as
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  Speaker 1: he takes every rep with the ones, he will be
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  Speaker 1: your starting safety. He will take a giant leap because
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  Speaker 1: he's just getting more reps, he's playing more so of
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  Speaker 1: course he's going to take a giant leap. He won't
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  Speaker 1: forget the weirdness I guess you can say of last season.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was incredibly candid and and he didn't
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  Speaker 1: throw anyone under the bus yesterday in his press conference,
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  Speaker 1: but he did say, yeah, it was a little weird.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't get the reps that I was hoping I
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  Speaker 1: was going to get last season. Old coaching staff didn't
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  Speaker 1: feel like he was ready. He didn't feel like he
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  Speaker 1: needed those reps. He said, I'm coming off an a
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  Speaker 1: c L injury. I would have loved to have played
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  Speaker 1: more last year. Hey, here's this chance. But he's not
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  Speaker 1: going to forget the weirdness of last year and how
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  Speaker 1: he didn't get the reps that we all thought he
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  Speaker 1: deserves at least a chance to play more. Last year,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: he might have had the hardest hit I've ever seen
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: in my entire life against Travis e t N. He
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: said he went back and watched the tape on the
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: head of Travis Etian and said, oh, yeah, that was
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: a little harsh, But he said, I'm not going to
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: apologize for it, because that's what I do. I'm supposed
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: to hit guys hard. This takedown of Josh Jacobs in
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: the open field right, and NFL running backs, especially starting
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: caliber running backs like this, Uh, they can make guys
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: look bad. And he made open field tackle after open
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: field tackle. That one's on z here White. Um. I
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: was super impressed. And again I didn't see enough from
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: him last year to know. I knew his reputation from
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Syracuse was ballhawk and they get thirteen takeaways and he's
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: three years there before the a c L. Um, he
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: looks like he belongs in the middle of the field.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: The knock on him last year was he didn't want
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: to hit. But I think what I think, but clearly
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: we saw it. I think what the issue really was
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: was that he wasn't getting the reps and he was
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: coming off the a c L and he didn't necessarily
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: know exactly what to do right, which is what happens
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: to a lot of young players is that they're not sure.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: So what do they do? They play slow, they play tentative. Um,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: he's playing anything but slow or tentative. This year. We've
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: seen it through one game. I expect again, we don't
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: know who's gonna play for the Browns tomorrow night. They haven't,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: you know, laid it all out. If Shaun Watson is
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: playing against Nick Chub, might play. Uh. If that's the case, good, right,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Let's see him go up and hit Nick Chubb right.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: And you see for Andre Cisco, you understand the playing
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: slowest because you're not getting the reps to improve. And
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: if this is a draft pick that you believe in,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: it might be costly ball games, but people might payet.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: This was a guy who had first round grades on
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: him before the a c L. Then the a c
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: L comes, he slides to the third round, kind of
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: like Walker, little right Walker at the knee injury and
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: nineteen didn't play in twenty all of a sudden, here
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: he comes. He's starting to play. Well. You know, those
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: are some value picks because they're great young players with
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: upside and we're seeing it payoff now. Right now it
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: looks good and that is he will he won't. He
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: might present it by move day. Coming up on Jaguars
• 17:27
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• 17:29
  Speaker 1: is all going on in Cleveland. Nathan Zigirl Brown's color analysts,
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• 18:01
  Speaker 1: back Jaguars Drive Time, brought to you by the Fields
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  Speaker 1: Auto Group. It is Thursday. We are getting ready for
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: our second preseason game against the Cleveland Browns tomorrow night.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: And no one knows the Cleveland Browns better than this guy.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Color analysts for the Cleveland Browns, Nathan Zigura, joins us
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: now in Jaguars Drive Time. Good morning, good morning. Good
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: to be down in Jacksonville and excited to uh finally
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: see some football for the Browns. Got to watch the
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Jags obviously in the Hall of Fame game, but excited
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: for a game one of the Browns preseason this year. Absolutely,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: We're excited to see some starters play. And oh my gosh,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: you you have a storyline in Cleveland. We're hearing DeShawn
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Watson is gonna play tomorrow night. Is that accurate and
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: what went into that decision. Yeah, the expectation is that
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson will start at quarterback for the Browns on
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Friday Night against the Jags. And I think he hasn't
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: played right. He didn't play last season, as we know,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: and so you want to get him some live action
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: against an opponent in this case and the Jags, and
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: and good work if the Jags are gonna play some
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: of their starters as well, you know, you got Josh
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Allen on one side, Travon Walker on the other. They
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: can get after the quarterback a little bit, and so
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: kind of get him those live reps I think will
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: be very helpful. I don't think it'll be much. I
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: think if he has one really good series where they
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: go on you know, eight ten play drive and they
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: get in the end zone, that'll probably be it. But otherwise, yeah,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: maybe you'll see a couple of series out there with
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson, just to give him some game action for
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the first time since that season. So how's he looked.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Has he looked like he hasn't played in more than
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: a year, or his training camp just picking right back
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: up where he left off at one point, I mean
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: last time we saw him play. He leads the league
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: in passing completes over his passes, and he looks great.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: And I think it's kind of amazing given everything else
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: that's going on, not just the fact that he's been
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: rusty and hasn't played football since the season, but given
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: everything that's going on off of the field, his ability
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: to lock in has been incredible. I can tell you
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: that he is a very easy thrower of the football.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: He's an incredibly accurate thrower of the football. Talking to
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of the guys on our defense, they say,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: sometimes we feel like we have great coverage and he
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: just fits the ball. And so he has looked very
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: much like the guy that you would expect to be
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback and the guy that, as I said,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: led the league in passing in So, yeah, he looked great.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: And for the Browns. Now, the hard part is you
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: just don't know how much of Deshaun Watson you'll get
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: in this season. So and I know that Chemistifnasky said
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: they have a plan, they're gonna stick to it, has
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: he detailed that. I mean, you've got a team loaded
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: on defense, and they added so many key players on offense.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Obviously with the cabbyat of when the quarterback comes, what's
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: their thought process? I mean about getting Jacoby Brissette ready
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: to go for whatever length of time he has to
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: be ready to go. Yeah, I think we'll see Deshan
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: this week, and then I think after this game you
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: will see a transition fully into getting Jacoby Brissette ready
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: to go for this season. And got Jacoby Brissets, a
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: guy that obviously the Jags would know well spending a
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: couple of years there with the Indianapolis Colts, a veteran.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: They are very comfortable with Jacoby Brissette. But obviously the
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: offense you're gonna run with Kobe Brissett is very different
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: than the offense that you could run with DeShawn Watson
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: at quarterback. In fact, with che Kobe, I think we'll
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: see a lot of what we saw under Kevin Stefanski
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: with Baker Mayfield the last two seasons, where some two
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: tight ends, you'll lean on Nick Chubb, lean on Kareem Hunt,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: that great offensive line. He takes shots where they're available,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: and then rely on your excellent defense. As you pointed up,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: this is a very very good roster and this is
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: a team that has absolutely the chance to go as
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: far as they want with the caveat being you know,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I think which Kobe setting, This can absolutely be a
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: winning football team with Deshaun Watson. This is a team
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: that that has a chance to compete deep into the
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: priests of the postseason. And of course everyone will be
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: watching DeShawn Watson, US included the entire NFL is going
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: to watch that. But I know there's other storylines you
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: will be paying attention to. Is there a matchup or
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: a player that Jaguars fans should know about for Tomorrow night? Yeah,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I think you know, I wouldn't expect to see Nick
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Chubb or Kareem Hunt. But for the Browns running the football,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Deernest Johnson is an incredibly talented running back and last
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: year when he had to fill in for US on
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: offense on Thursday Night against the Denver Broncos rush for
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: over a hundred yards, was the FedEx Ground Player of
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the Week in a Big Brown's win. So he's somebody
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: that you'll certainly get a look at. But really, from
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the guys that need to step up, I'll give you
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: a couple of names there. Number one on offense Anthony Schwartz,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: and I'll even say David Bell, our third round pick
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: last year was a receiver Schwartz, Our third round pick
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: this year was a receiver in David Bell out of Perdue,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: who was, you know, the best receiver in the Big
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Ten last season. Those two guys are gonna be very
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: important because our wide receiver room behind a Marii Cooper
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: and Donovan People's Jones is really it's largely unproven. It's
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of young guys who have not done much
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: in the league, so that those are some guys to
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: watch offensively. Defensively, I think we have a couple of
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: really good young corners, Greg Newsome, our our first round
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: pick a year ago, who got his kind of first
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: action last year in Jackson Will going against Marvin Jones
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: that game a lot of confidence. And then we have
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: a guy m j Emerson who was our third round
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: pick this year out of Mississippi State six too. He
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: can run. He is one of the best cover guys
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: in the SEC. In fact, he was targeted on only
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: thirteent of his cover snaps a year ago, and I
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: know our coaches are very excited about what he's shone
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: so far. So you know, getting to go against Trevor
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Lawrence and and hopefully some of those receivers, you know,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: with Christian Kurt coming in the mix and Marvin Jones,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: you know at z A Jones and Leavisco Chanal. This
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: should be a good test for our secondary and I
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: think we've got some good young guys on the back
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: end of this defense. Great to hear it, and just
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: confirming you you don't believe that starting running backs will
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: see them tomorrow night? Correct? We're breaking new Yeah, Kevin
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Stefanski worded it that we will see a lot of
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: the starters. I think that you could imagine a scenario
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: in which you know, Nick Chubb is not gonna play,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: or Miles Garrett or Clowney, the guys that have done
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: it and mean I even put pretty Hunt potentially in
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: that group, guys that have done it at a high
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: level of the league. That we need these guys ready
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: for a Week one. We know they put in the work,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: we know they're gonna be ready. Those are the people
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: we need to see in week one rather than in
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the preseason. Gotcha, Well that makes sense. Well, Nathan will
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: see you in Jacksonville tomorrow. I thank you. So much
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: for joining us on Jaguars Drive Time. Always a pleasure
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: two years in a row. Maybe we'll do it another
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: year there in you can book it. Yes, we'll schedule
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: you in now. Thank you, Nathan More to come right
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: here on Jaguars Drive Come a little fun bet for
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the year, and I would be a heavy underdog in it,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: but I'll take it. I'll take the Jags season win
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: tolls straight up versus the Patriots are totally. I think
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: the Jags will will as many or more games than
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the New England Patriot. Not a terrible take on First
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: things first, yesterday, welcome back to Jaguarys Drive Time. One
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: more segment for you, and we're hearing that more as
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: training camp goes on. You hear all these positive, optimistic
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: stories coming out of Jacksonville, and kind of like in
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: New England Mac Jones, they're saying, not looking at as
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: good now all of a sudden, people are starting to
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: bet on these season win totally. I thought was interesting
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: was the facial reaction by the other three you folks,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: and you know in those network folks don't spend a
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: lot of time looking at Jacksonville. There's a lot of
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: reasons to be optimistic. That doesn't mean there aren't going
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: to be some growing pains here as as Doug gets
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: his system going. But I really believe by the end
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: of this season that people around the league, more people
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: around the league will look like that guy did. And
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know his name. I'm sorry to you on
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: first things first that I don't um There'll be more
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: people that will be looking and the quarterbacks obviously the
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: reason he's been tremendous so far. Folks would get their
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: first look at him tomorrow night against the Cleveland Browns.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: But he's been aggressive. Um. I just I like the
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: way he's pushing it and pushing his team. He's in control.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: He very much is. And I think coming off the
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game against the Raiders, the biggest question
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: was you saw them run really well against the Jaguars,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: And I kept telling myself, Okay, well you got to
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: see the Sardi defense. You know, I know some defensive
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: starters played. That's the biggest thing I'll be looking for tomorrow.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: If the Browns can run the ball like we saw
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: last week, all right, then you got a problem and
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: then you have something to improve. Browns averaged five point
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: nine or five point oh nine, So five point one
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: yards per rushing attempt. Last year, they run the ball
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: right on everybody. Five yards is insane. Lead the league.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: So you're talking now about one of the best in
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the league. But they're not coming in with their guys,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: so it'll be But but you bring you bring Loui
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Khan in for that very reason, right and fully Foughtkasi
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: for that very reason, to be able to shore up
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the run. We're not gonna see Devin Lloyd. Hopefully in
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks we'll get a chance to
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: see him again. That's the growing pain, that's the growth
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: curve that we still have to see. You gotta get
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: everybody on the field. You gotta get him into the system,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: you gotta get him reps. It might take a couple
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: of weeks into the season for them to start looking
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: like that team that that guy was mentioning, But you
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: can see the glimpses of it right now. Oh my goodness,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: we're gonna see you on the broadcast, Brooks. We've been ready,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: sit down and kind of go through all that here
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: today and get ready for tomorrow. It Uh, it's always
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: fun in the preseason because Bucky does such a great job.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: He knows all the players on both rosters so well
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: because his draft preparation is a big part of what
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: he does at l Yes, we're excited to see him
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: in the booth. He did a fantastic job last season,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: so give it another go. Well, here, here we go,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Here we go. All right, Stay with us on Jaguars
• 27:13
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• 27:15
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• 27:18
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• 27:20
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