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SPARK PLUG: New OF Wade Meckler infuses Angels with much-needed energy and grit · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Helay Angel fans, and welcome back to Halo Territory. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Mike d. Giovanni, former Ella Times Baseball writer and host
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  Speaker 1: of the show, joined by Mark Trumbull, my regular co
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  Speaker 1: host and the third basement for the Angel during Jared
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  Speaker 1: Weaver's no hitter. How about that, Guys got some interesting
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  Speaker 1: things to cover today. We're gonna talk about horror, Jose
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  Speaker 1: Soriano's very extended slump, and we're gonna talk a little
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  Speaker 1: bit about Mickey Moniac, the former Angel outfielder who is
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  Speaker 1: in town with the Rockies. But we're gonna open with
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  Speaker 1: an interview I did with our newest Angel, Wade Meckler,
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  Speaker 1: before the Rocky series began on Monday. Meckler was called
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  Speaker 1: up about a week and a half ago. His first
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  Speaker 1: ending with the Angels, he makes a spectacular diving catch
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  Speaker 1: before crashing into the wall and foul territory against the
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  Speaker 1: Rangers two Fridays ago, and at the bottom of the
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  Speaker 1: first he hits a three run homer off Jacob deGrom
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  Speaker 1: and then he also hit a grand slam over the
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  Speaker 1: weekend in Tampa Bay. And he's made a nice first impression,
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  Speaker 1: as we've talked about on the show. So let's get
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  Speaker 1: right to this interview with Wade Meckler. So why don't
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  Speaker 1: we start?
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  Speaker 2: Wade?
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  Speaker 1: Are you sort of starting to feel a little more
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  Speaker 1: settled in after that World win of an Angel's debut
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  Speaker 1: in that last homistant? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like once the first game started, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it becomes.
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  Speaker 1: His baseball again.
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  Speaker 2: So uh, you know, once the the travel whirl wind
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  Speaker 2: and the pregame stuff was done, and just yeah, fell
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  Speaker 2: felt pretty settled in.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like your style of play, made in contact,
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  Speaker 1: getting on base, run and hard playing very aggressively on
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  Speaker 1: defense was something this team really needed, uh and maybe lacked.
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  Speaker 1: Were you aware of that when you got here? Did
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  Speaker 1: you sense any of that?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's just the way that I've kind
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  Speaker 2: of always played the game and just trying to help
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  Speaker 2: the team win, and that's just how I know how
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  Speaker 2: to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. How do you feel your style has been in
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  Speaker 1: so far?
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  Speaker 2: It's good.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: You know, whether it's on defense or based running or offense,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to contribute to either scoring runs or
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  Speaker 2: or shaving runs. And you know, it's it feels good.
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  Speaker 1: To be helping. Yeah, we've mentioned this on the podcast
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  Speaker 1: a few times. I don't know if it's because of
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  Speaker 1: the red hair, the fact that your numbers in the fifties,
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  Speaker 1: your mannerisms kind of remind me a lot of cool Calhoun.
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  Speaker 1: Was he a player you admired the coming up?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm coming to games his rookie year and
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  Speaker 2: Washington play growing up, and he was a great player,
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  Speaker 2: played great defense. I felt like he was always guys
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  Speaker 2: trying to do little things, and so it's a good
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  Speaker 2: player to try to emulated.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you tried to style your game a little
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  Speaker 1: bit after a guy like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was an infielder growing up, so it was
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  Speaker 2: more you know, the icy bars and guys like that.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it's it was a guy that
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  Speaker 2: always admired watching play.
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  Speaker 1: Trumbo sees the comparison with Cole in that you both
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  Speaker 1: have or had a chip on your shoulder. Is that true?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit. So, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, throughout my career, I've just been always told
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  Speaker 2: that I wasn't good enough, whether it was you know,
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  Speaker 2: barely making my high school team, getting cut from my
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  Speaker 2: college team, yeah, just not having a whole lot of
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  Speaker 2: people outside of small circle believe in me. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean there's obviously a desire to prove a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people wrong.
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  Speaker 1: And prove all people right to Some of that come
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  Speaker 1: from being a little undersized when you get to high school.
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  Speaker 2: Too, definitely. Yeah, it kind of had to be that
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  Speaker 2: way growing up. Yeah, I kind of had to play
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, a little bit angry and nixause if
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  Speaker 2: I didn't and it wasn't gonna be good enough, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So I always had to try to find find small
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  Speaker 2: little edges. And one of those edges was kind of
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  Speaker 2: tapping into that trying to prove it wrong.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit. I read in the story of somebody
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  Speaker 1: wrote when you're at double A that you're actually under
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  Speaker 1: one hundred pounds your freshman year.
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  Speaker 4: How was that possible for put tenent five pounds? I
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  Speaker 4: was just yeah, I just hadn't grown. We were trying
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  Speaker 4: to good I just just hadn't grown. I grew by
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  Speaker 4: the end of that year, I was over one hundred pounds,
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  Speaker 4: but when I entered the freshman I was I was
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  Speaker 4: seven hundred pounds.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. And how did that sort of experience as you're
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  Speaker 1: coming up through high school and through college, how did
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  Speaker 1: it sort of shape and drive you throughout your career,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in the minor leagues and now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean as as the kid that just forced
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  Speaker 2: me to be perfect, you know, even being perfect to
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  Speaker 2: the freshman, I couldn't hit the ball at the enfield
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  Speaker 2: and barely I had to really get into a ball
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  Speaker 2: to get out of the infield. You know, when you
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  Speaker 2: have to be perfect like that, it it you don't
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  Speaker 2: really lose that, you know. As I grew, I kind
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  Speaker 2: of kept that same mentality, feeling like I had always
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  Speaker 2: be perfect to compete, and it kind of created a
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  Speaker 2: standard that carried on into college and that eventually brought
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  Speaker 2: me back on that team at Oregon State and got
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  Speaker 2: me drafted. And you know, it's that's the standard in
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  Speaker 2: pro ball. So it was like beneficial for me to
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  Speaker 2: have to follow that standard at a young age.
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  Speaker 1: When did the careers sort of take a turn for
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  Speaker 1: the better.
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  Speaker 2: It kind of happened slowly. There was a guy Scottie Tennant.
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  Speaker 2: He had some connections with some college coaches who really
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  Speaker 2: really believed in me, even back when I was one
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  Speaker 2: hundred pounds. He was telling me I was a big
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  Speaker 2: leaguer when I was one hundred pounds, and so he
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  Speaker 2: was reaching out to a bunch of college coaches, reached
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  Speaker 2: out to about every college coach in the country for me,
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  Speaker 2: and the only one, only school who was in Division
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  Speaker 2: one that he reached out to that you know, gave
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  Speaker 2: me an opportunity happened to be Oregon State, which you know,
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  Speaker 2: one of the best programs in the country. So I
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  Speaker 2: mean that, I guess is a turning point. You know,
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  Speaker 2: getting an offer from Oregon State the big Honestly, COVID
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  Speaker 2: was a big career changer for me, just more. You know,
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  Speaker 2: every day my first year were gonna say, I was
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  Speaker 2: like day to day I get cut, like I was
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  Speaker 2: not able to take risks. I felt like I had
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  Speaker 2: to just spend every day competing as hard as I
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  Speaker 2: could to even make that team. And then all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, you get an eight month, six month hiatus
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  Speaker 2: where there's no evaluation happening, where all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: the only thing that matters is develop and how can
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  Speaker 2: I change who I am as a player and competing
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  Speaker 2: is no longer an issue. So I got six months
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  Speaker 2: of just straight development around guys who were already doing it,
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  Speaker 2: or we're gonna state guys who had already been first
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  Speaker 2: team All back twelve and form a small group of
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  Speaker 2: them was able to just get a lot better and
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  Speaker 2: eventually get back on that team in twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 1: You said you got cut what after your freshman year?
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  Speaker 2: So I made the team my freshman year. I mostly
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  Speaker 2: pinch ran. I got kind of bats that, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: kind of coaching change and cut is I guess a
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  Speaker 2: stronger word. It was more, you know, it was a
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  Speaker 2: walk on at the time. I don't know if the
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  Speaker 2: rules has changed, but you couldn't cut Scarship players without
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  Speaker 2: losing the roster spot. So from a roster crunch standpoint,
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  Speaker 2: you had to cut the walk on. So they strongly
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  Speaker 2: encouraged that I should look elsewhere if I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: ever have an opportunity to play somewhere. Told them no.
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  Speaker 2: Eventually made the team, but they had to cut a
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  Speaker 2: Scarship player and I was a walk on, and I
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  Speaker 2: ended up getting kind of a second time in that
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  Speaker 2: same year. So I wasn't on the team in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 2: But it wasn't like, hey, you can't come around anymore.
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  Speaker 2: It was smort I did not make the team, so
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  Speaker 2: but I was still you know, able to use facilities
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  Speaker 2: and work out and wait and all that stuff. I
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  Speaker 2: just didn't make the team.
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  Speaker 1: How do you not let something like that deriil you
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  Speaker 1: because that could easily sign your packing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was I didn't really have much
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  Speaker 2: much of a choice. You know, I'd heard it my
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  Speaker 2: whole career. You know, even in high school. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: have any offers. The only offers will walk on offer.
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  Speaker 2: It happened late my senior year when I got that offer,
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  Speaker 2: So it wasn't anything new. And my end goal was
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  Speaker 2: always playing the big leagues. And I felt like, if
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to have to play Oregon State, then
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to play the big leagues. So and
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to be an organ State and I liked coaches,
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  Speaker 2: I love the guys I was around. I felt like
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  Speaker 2: it was one of the best environments in the country
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  Speaker 2: to get better as a baseball player. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: the other optionists transfer and it's like, yes, or maybe
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  Speaker 2: maybe I could play it at a smaller school. But
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  Speaker 2: if I can't play organ State, I can't play the
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  Speaker 2: big leagues. So that was kind of the main thing.
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  Speaker 1: Here. You are taking guys like Jacob de gram deep
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  Speaker 1: heck of a way to introduce yourself to Angel fans.
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel you feel a little love here already,
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  Speaker 1: even though it's been only been a couple of games
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  Speaker 1: in Anahi, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It feels good. I definitely feel, you know, a little
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  Speaker 2: bit actually get a lot of people who are reaching out,
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  Speaker 2: just happy that to have someone from from the area
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  Speaker 2: on the team. And yeah, I'm definitely things.
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  Speaker 1: Did that play the defensive play that first game, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when you're crashing into the long foul territory almost kind
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  Speaker 1: of loosen me up a little good.
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  Speaker 2: Way of putting it. Yeah, it felt like I, you know,
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  Speaker 2: contributed a little bit, you know, took a load of
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  Speaker 2: the weight off that bad because the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: I just want to contribute to wins. And having already
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  Speaker 2: done something that could contribute to a win, I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to say makes it bad less important, but it
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  Speaker 2: makes you feel a little bit like, all right, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not helping the team and you kind of take that
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  Speaker 2: bat a little more freely.
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  Speaker 1: Last question, what do you think of Mark Trumbo when
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  Speaker 1: you're coming up watching them with the Angels? That was
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  Speaker 1: a big, big.
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  Speaker 2: Mark Trumbo fan. I was watching it hit you know,
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  Speaker 2: hitting thirty home runs a year. I think he's a
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  Speaker 2: so called guy as well, right, yeah, Bill Park, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: It's actually in my league growing up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew he's a so called guy, so I
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  Speaker 2: was with Extra and it was fun watching watching it
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  Speaker 2: hit a bunch of homers that'll work with Thanks for
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  Speaker 2: your time, Yeah, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Another Mark Trumbo fan? How about that, kids, I failed
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  Speaker 1: to mention at the top. I should have that Wade
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  Speaker 1: is an Orange County product, like Mark Trumbo went to
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  Speaker 1: Anaheim Esperanza High School. We're gonna take a quick break
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  Speaker 1: we will unpack this interview with Wade Meckler and get
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  Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to Helo teror two with Mike dg.
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  Speaker 1: Givanna and Mark Trumbo. Mark, what do you think wayde
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  Speaker 1: Meckler has brought to this Angels club?
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  Speaker 6: Way has been a really nice addition. Waited a very
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  Speaker 6: good answer there at the end too. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 6: But I think he's brought what the Angels have been missing,
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  Speaker 6: and we've talked about it to some degree, and the
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  Speaker 6: fans I think have noticed as well. Yes, he is
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  Speaker 6: a gritty player that first play I like the answer.
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  Speaker 6: It seemed like he was able to contribute to the
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  Speaker 6: team with a really nice defensive effort, and I, you know,
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  Speaker 6: would he have gone deep if he hadn't done that,
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, but those types of things can really
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  Speaker 6: help a player. I feel like that, Hey, you know,
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  Speaker 6: I've already done something to help the cause. Tonight takes
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  Speaker 6: Jacob de Grom deep. That's obviously great. Big Grand Slam
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  Speaker 6: the other day. I really like the quality of his
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  Speaker 6: at bats. At times it's been a little bit of
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  Speaker 6: swing and miss, but it's not excessive. And he indicated
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  Speaker 6: that he did work on a few things over the
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  Speaker 6: winner with the way, you know, the quality of his
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  Speaker 6: contact and his poll backspin, So we might be looking
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  Speaker 6: at a better version of wayde Meckler, who, in addition
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  Speaker 6: to what he already does, we'll just get on base
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  Speaker 6: at an extremely high clip. I like that he also
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  Speaker 6: runs extremely well. Him and Siri look very similar in
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  Speaker 6: speed serie. Maybe a tad faster, but it's you know,
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  Speaker 6: kind of indiscernible. And he plays nice defense and left field,
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  Speaker 6: so I don't think there's anything not to like. And
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  Speaker 6: he again has the kind of the chip on the shoulder.
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  Speaker 6: What does that look like?
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  Speaker 1: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 6: It means the guy gets after it each and every night.
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  Speaker 6: He runs hard down the baseline and he's a welcome
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  Speaker 6: addition to a club that needed a little bit attitude.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like he's brought an energy, and of
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  Speaker 1: course we can't measure that, but I know in that
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  Speaker 1: first game because of the defensive play, and I think
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  Speaker 1: he had it in another game on the trip as well.
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  Speaker 1: When a guy comes up to for his first ad
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  Speaker 1: bat of the game in his unifor already covered in dirt,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that was quintessential Darren Erstad right there, especially
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  Speaker 1: when he was playing first base in that center field.
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  Speaker 1: Those guys you get dirty, they get after it. They're hungry.
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  Speaker 1: Not saying other Angels players aren't, but yeah, I was
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  Speaker 1: going to ask you, when you look at that, when
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  Speaker 1: you talk about a chip on your shoulder, how you
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  Speaker 1: view that through the eyes of a former player? Is
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  Speaker 1: it that noticeable when a guy is just hungry?
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  Speaker 6: It is noticeable. It's not in various ways, but usually
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  Speaker 6: it's going to be a guy that gives an effort
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  Speaker 6: like that, runs into a wall, hustles everything out, runs
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  Speaker 6: hard after balls in the gap just never takes a playoff,
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  Speaker 6: and that's what I see when I look at him. Also,
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  Speaker 6: probably not going to be a guy that's given hugs
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  Speaker 6: to the opposing team at second base. Not a big
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  Speaker 6: fan of that either, And maybe you know, let the
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  Speaker 6: kids play, have a good time. I think you can
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  Speaker 6: be a really good guy, nice guy, but in a
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  Speaker 6: way that doesn't look like too chummy. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 6: the opponent you're looking to beat him, and I doubt
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  Speaker 6: we'll see Wade giving bro huggs and et cetera. He
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  Speaker 6: seems like he's there to take care of business and personally,
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  Speaker 6: that's that's the type of player I enjoy watching.
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  Speaker 1: Mark. You don't have any four foot ten, seventy five
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  Speaker 1: pound high school freshman who couldn't hit the ball out
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  Speaker 1: of the infield make it to the big leagues. Anyone
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  Speaker 1: you recalling high school like that?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they got it, didn't usually last too long. That's
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  Speaker 6: incredibly small. I mean, that's like I hate the elementary
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  Speaker 6: school small.
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  Speaker 1: I think I couldn't believe that. But you know it's
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  Speaker 1: a testament to his work ethic for sure to overcome that.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 1: I did ask Kurt Suzuki, our manager, bring Pram there
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  Speaker 1: for a sec about way before the game as well,
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  Speaker 1: let's take a quick listen to that.
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  Speaker 2: Kurt.
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  Speaker 1: Was Meckler brought here because this team needed the kind
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  Speaker 1: of things he brings in the box or did that just.
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  Speaker 3: Happen to be a I mean, I think he came
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  Speaker 3: here because he was playing well. You know, he's playing
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  Speaker 3: really well in the minor leagues, and we felt like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he earned it, he deserved to be up. Heer,
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  Speaker 3: he's playing well, and you know, he's been fun to
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  Speaker 3: have around.
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  Speaker 1: What has he brought to this team? Maybe backed I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know if anything that we lacked.
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  Speaker 2: I think he was more just he's playing well.
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  Speaker 3: He's he's doing things we all know what he could do.
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  Speaker 2: We saw miss free training right.
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  Speaker 3: The baseball player, you know, he can run, he can
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  Speaker 3: play some defense, he can you know, put the ball
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: and play hard with authority and you know it doesn't
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: strike out very often, not but but but yeah, you know,
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: like I said, he's been fun to have around. He's
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: he's always working, he's he's working to get better and
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: he brings that type of energy to our club.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Right, we're going to turn our attention to Jose Soriano,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: who was he American League Pitcher of the Month in April.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: We were talking back then about him maybe getting the
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: All Star Game start, and boy, things have turned and
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: not for the better, uh, sor He gave up two
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: earn runs and three hits and four and two thirds
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: innings Monday night against the Rockies, but he walked seven,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: which is a career high. He also hit two batters
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: in an eventual nine to eight loss to the Rockies.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: And this continued a pretty lengthy downturn for Soriano. Let's
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: look at his stats first six starts of the year
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: five and one record zero point eight four ERA forty
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: nine strikeouts, sixteen walks, and his next seven starts one
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: in four record five point one seven ERA forty two strikeouts,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: twenty five walks, and Mark pulled up his I'm not
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: sure the site that does this, but they do a
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: report card for each pitcher after the game, and sorry, Ono,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: and I don't know how you explain this one. Mark
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: a plus for stuff, f for location. What's going on
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: with our right hander here? And what's this is a
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: really extended downturn? What would be your concerns with him
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: at this point?
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: That's an x account PLV. I think it's pictureless PLV.
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: And they're using an algorithm to grade some of these things.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: It's newer. I think it's probably still being tweaked to
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: some degree. But this stuff plus that kind of began
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: a thing when we were talking about Walbert Uranian spring training.
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: Who is this guy? What's this stuff?
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Plus?
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: What does this all mean? Well, they're now grading these
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: guys individual pitches, So you'll see some guys continually miserowski
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: a A. You know, the results don't always you know,
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: they won't always be an A, but usually the stuff
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: is going to be so Soriano according to you know,
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: and this is just the raw data. His pitch is
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: graded out. I think he had three that graded out
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: really well yesterday, well above average. I don't know if
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: either or any of those were his fastball, though. I
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: think his split finger actually was was the nastiest in
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: air quotes. But his pitch usage just continued to bewilder
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: me a little bit. It seems like he's kind of
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: like Jack trying to get into a rhythm of some sorts.
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: The pitcher that we saw to begin the year, I
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: don't see him any longer. And I mean, does do
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: you think he looks fatigued? What I do in first
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: I do. They've really leaned on this guy.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: And we'd have to remember, even though he's sort of
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: developed as a horse, he is a I who had
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: two Tommy John surgeries. I didn't look at his career
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: that close. But I'm, you know, going wire to wire
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: for a guy like that is it's a big ask.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: He does look fatigued to me. A lot of teams,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: especially the Dodgers, will take a guy like that and
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: give him a little break, find something to put him
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: on the injured list with, you know, take a two
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: three week respite so he can come back a little fresh,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: get a little reset. I don't know that the Angels
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: have the pitching depth to be able to afford that
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: kind of move, but and I'll give Kirk credit. He
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: tried to leave sorry end Monday night to get that
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: last out of the fifth inning, and the Angels were
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: ahead by three at the time, looked like they were
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: going to win. And he stretched him out to one
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: hundred and eight pitches and he doesn't even get he
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't he has to pull him before he gets that
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: last out in the fifth and then he doesn't get
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: the win at either, So he just he looks a
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: little tired. You can see it in his facial expressions
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: on the he looks a little exasperated. I just think
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: that's a pretty bad sign. Maybe time for him to
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: take a little step back physically and either skip a start,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever it is, what do you what do
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: you what do you think would be best for this
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: guy right now?
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: I don't know about skipping a start. I think he's
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: a guy that he's too nice in my opinion. No,
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: I've been trying to think about, Okay, his arm slot
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: that's been covered a bit, maybe a little bit lower
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: arm slot and whatever, so he's getting a lot more
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: contact in the air. He's forty eight percent opposing batteries.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: He went from a you know, a pretty significant ground
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: ball pitcher to a guy that's now hitters have made
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: an adjustment against him. So he's going to need to
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: do what he can. But he's not throwing enough first
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: pitch strikes. He's not attacking hitters.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: He's not He's.
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: Really relying on Chase And I think we're going to
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: get into a little segment on the Angels pictures as
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: a whole and it's exactly that they're relying on a
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: ton of off speed and hoping that the opposing hitters
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: are going to, you know, be flailing at it. I'm
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: assuming going for the punch. It kind of aligns a
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: lot with a drive line type thing to me, you know,
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: maximum everything, break, horizontal, vertical, all these things, and really
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: not enough emphasis on the fastball command. And he's not
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: thrown enough fastballs for strikes. I think he was fifty
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: three percent strikes last night. You want to see about
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: seventy ideally or somewhere near there. Fifty three is not enough.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: It was a soggy start, and even in the first
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: inning he's pouring sweat and it looks really I hate
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: to I don't know what he's doing conditioning was That's
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: one thing I've kind of wondering. I assume benefit of
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: the doubt, he works extremely hard. I'm not in there, though.
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: I don't know for his conditioning what he's up to.
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: But to be already talking about being fatigued this early
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: in the year is not the greatest topic. The overall
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: stat line is still quite nice, but we want to
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: see him trending. I know the Angels do and the
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: fans do. Let's get back on track, Let's get aggressive
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: out there.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Mark mentioned some statistics he found pretty interesting for
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: our viewers. Shows a somewhat alarming trend with the Angel
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: pitching staff as a whole, Mark, why don't you tell
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: us what the viewers are looking at here with this
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: chart and what's the significance of it.
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: This is from Baseball Savant. I was kind of browsing.
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: I didn't expect to see some of these things, but
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: looking for some trends at times. The Angels are leading
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: the league. They've thrown the most pitchers most pitches by
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: any team with eighty seven. And of that they've also
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: thrown the most off speed pitches in all of MLB.
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: They've thrown and seventeen. Now the bottom graph shows first
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: pitch swing percentage by the opposing teams. They are dead last,
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: so the opposing hitters are swinging at the angels pitchers
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: first pitches at the lowest percentage in the league. If
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: you go back to the first graph, Tampa Bay, you'll
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: see them on the end. There they have thrown the
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: least amount of pitches in baseball. Go to the middle graph.
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: Excuse me, they are second in the amount of off
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: speed pitches thrown. So that's a pretty interesting representation. I
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: would not have expected to see that. But to me,
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: Tampa Bay is pitching to contact, the Angels are pitching
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: for whiffs. Which team is doing better? In your opinion,
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: I said, the Rays are doing a little bit better,
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: although you know, Angels starting pitching in their defense has
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: been better than we expected. Yeah, we don't have the
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: percentage of strikes on those first pitches, but I gotta
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: assume if you're throwing that many off speed pitches on
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: first pitches of an pat chances are I don't want
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: to say.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: More there are more balls in there than strikes, but
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: percentage wise, my guess would be there would be a
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: higher percentage of balls because a lot of guys are
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: looking maybe fastball on that first pitch, they see off
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: speed and they lay off it, and then you're getting
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: into some one zero counts already and you're already behind
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: any other significance of these numbers that you're seeing, Is.
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: It them that stood out that We don't have the
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: graphic there, but they I believe are throwing a ton.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: They're a fastball primary team, and it looked like Seattle,
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: you know, has a nice pitching staff. The Guardian's a
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: nice pitching staff. Now the Rays are a little bit different.
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: To be honest, I wasn't overly The raised bullpen, especially
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: to me, didn't look like a strength. Is it sustainable?
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: I don't know. The Yankees probably have an advantage in
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: my opinion in that regard the Angels. I don't know
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: if this is a mic matics thing, but if I
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: look back at least a year prior, it seemed similar
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: ish trends with guys that are out there, and then
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: I think it leads to guys like Jack and Depmer's
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: at times that seem to be a little bit lost.
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: They are trying to use all their pitches. Are they
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: using them appropriately and are they using them effectively? That's
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: a different story. And I look at Urania, you know,
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: he's a new addition to the team. I wouldn't touch him.
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: I don't think anyone has. Which is the smart thing
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: to do. Why mess with the guy that's having success.
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: He is getting ahead of guys, he's limiting his pitch count.
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: Usually he's not going deep into a lot of games.
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: Some of the pitch counts have gotten up there a
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: little bit, but he seemed to be by far the
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: biggest bright spot right now. I'd probably say he's number one.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: Debt Meers is probably trending in the right direction, and
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: a couple of these other guys, and Grayson Rodriguez is
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: looking good and we're going to give him a lot
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: more leash. But both Soriano and Jack need to dial
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: it in a little bit better. And the bullpen, you know,
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: for Mean's actually been throwing the ball real nice. Had
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: to pour out in and was Unfortunately they didn't have
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: anybody ready to go to get him out of that jam.
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: Sam Bachman, I'm not sure expected to see him in
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: a game like that yesterday, and he didn't pitch the game. Overall,
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: the Rockies very sloppy, four errors. I believe on defense,
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: they did it everything they could to kind of gift
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: the Angels a win, and they still got the win themselves.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: So the Angels weren't able to get it done.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of the Rockies, I want to close the
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: show with an interview I did with Mickey Money, the
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Rockies outfielder who hit two eighty with an eight h
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: two ops, fourteen homers, forty five RBIs and eighty five
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: games for the Angels in twenty twenty three, and then
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: he hit two nineteen with a six forty six ops,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: fourteen homers, forty nine RBIs in one hundred and twenty
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: four games of the Angles in twenty twenty four, before
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: being released at the end of spring training in twenty
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: twenty five so the Angels could add veteran infielder Tim
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Anderson to their roster. Well, Moniac, a former first overall
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: pick in the draft, went on a sign with the Rockies,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and in twenty twenty five he hit two seventy with
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: an eight twenty four ops, twenty four homers, sixty eight
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: RBIs in one hundred and thirty five games, and this
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: season he is hitting two eighty with a nine to
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: forty two ops, twelve homers, twenty eight RBIs and forty
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: three games before going down with an ankle injury in
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: mid May. So let's take a listen to my interview
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: with Mickey Moniac. So, how is the ankle festival? It's good.
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's getting better, you know it's uh. I think
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: today has been ten days since going on the il,
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: so this the rest has been good for it. Yeah,
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: it's definitely feeling better every day, so uh, brand a
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: little bit today felt good. So just naturally going to
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: progress and hopefully get back pret soon.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Never a great time for an injury, but man, this
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: seem a really bad time I got in the league
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: and horrors and for a while there.
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, something like that. No, it's uh, it is what
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: it is. Man, It's uh, you know, obviously everyone's something
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: like this to happen. But uh, you know, I'm just
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: glad it's nothing too serious and gonna you know.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Be able to get back relatively quickly.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: What's sort of been clicking for you before you got hurt?
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I felt like last year, you know,
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: had a good year. I think that there's a lot
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: of good things that happened last year, you know, from
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: June first on kind of found something to where.
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: You know, I was able to go out there and uh.
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: Just go compete and you know, be myself, and yeah,
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: just try to continue that into the off season and
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: then you know, build off of it, go into this
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: season and uh, you know, I'll be able to stay
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: in that same mindset.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: The timing and circumstances around your release here seemed a
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: little strange for a lot of people. Yeah, what did
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: you think of the lighty things ended in Anaheim? Yeah,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: it was unfortunate.
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: You know, you never want to get released, Uh obviously,
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: you know I love my time here, Uh, the fans,
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: you know, the city, you know, being a southern California kid,
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: getting to play, you know, close to family, and you know,
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: it was something that uh, you know, always cherished and uh,
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: you know it came to abrupt ending, but it is
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: what it is.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Did you feel like they gave up on you a
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: little bit?
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I guess that would getting released means, uh,
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: you know, it is what it is. You know, it's
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: uh out of my control.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: So how much of the motivators is there? Not that
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: you need much motivation to excel in this game, but
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that must have lived an extra.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Fire under anything.
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think just you know, just getting
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: an opportunity to go play every day. And uh, I
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: think you know, ever since I got from Denver, you know,
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: organizations shown tremendous confidence in me from day one, and
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: you know, I'm eternally grateful for that. I think you know,
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: it allowed me to go up there and just kind
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: of play and you know, become a baseball player that
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: I you know, felt like I could become and uh yeah,
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: still got a long way to go, a lot of
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: learning to do, but uh, you know, just taking things
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: day by death.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I know your overall numbers your last year with the
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Angels work great, but if something seemed to click on
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: the second half that maybe catapulted you toward the next year.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: In twenty four.
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I was just getting more healthy. I
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: had this same ankle injury in twenty four, but played
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: through it, you know, never took any time off. I
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: think that was kind of a deciding factor with this
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: ankle this time. You know, they were good about getting
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: me an MRI right away. Uh right, you know that
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: year it was just kind of we'll grinding through it,
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: keep playing, and uh so, I think that was the
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: biggest thing. You know, doctor said, you know, reaggravated something.
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: So just validation that you know, I wasn't playing at
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: one hundred percent that whole year and you know, proud
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: that I was able to grind through it and you know,
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: get a whole year under my belt. But uh, I
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: think the biggest thing was just going to that off
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: season getting healthy. Ankles felt great, you know, since that
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: offseason and then just reaggravate a little bit here. But
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: it's been feeling good every day and I think this
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: rest and you know, rehab.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: It's been good for it. Well, Mark, I'm sure the
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Angels couldn't use a left handed hitting outfielder with the
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty five homer potential.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Did the Angels give up on this kid too soon? Yes? Yeah.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: Thing to answer is that this one, this one, this
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: one is this is a dud by the Halos. This
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: is a kid that grew up San Diego. I believe
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: and liked playing here and was playing well here. He
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: turned a corner. I normally hesitate to say I have
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: kept it, and you know, out of courtesy to him,
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: I did a little bit of work with him in
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: twenty four. Really, Phil plant here was a guy that
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: connected with him by far the best, and Mickey and
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: I share an agent.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Great guy.
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: You know, I sound like someone else now the person,
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: but he really is and he gets after it. He's
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: a left handed hitter. To me, he played a really
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: nice outfield. I know the metrics last year and Coors
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: were not great. I believe he was playing too deep,
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: is what I was told but you look at Brandon
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: Marsh now he's playing really nice and that's one that
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I thought Brandon was a nice player.
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: If he's thriving for Philadelphia, that's great. But Moniac's stings
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: even more. Why did they get rid of him? I
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: don't know. Was it because they he beat them in arbitration?
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a circumstances. It was weird. It wasn't
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: a huge arbitration figure either. It was like what two.
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: Billions or something two million dollars and possibly they they
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: it was between him or Joe Adell. Now Joe Adell,
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: you know, Joe's a great guy as well. He was
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: a negative war player this year. He said, you know,
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: the home run robberies and what you know, some home
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: runs mixed in, but the overall package hasn't been his
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: best And Mickey's the guy that his big thing. Yes,
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: it's going to be struggling at times to stay on
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: the field. He's battled injury. What was he mentioning with
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: the MRI. Was he saying the Rockies got an image
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: right away?
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Or yeah, I think that's what he was insinuating there
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't want to read too much between the lines,
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: but maybe he was, you know, tip of the cap
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: to to the Rockies for getting on top of a
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: medical thing, and maybe that was something he felt, uh
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: didn't happen here. One thing I was going to ask, uh,
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: you know last night's game, would you have given Trout
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: the green light three and oh in the bottom of
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: the eighth inning?
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about Monday night's game. Yes, And trust
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: you know, it was interesting just watching him. The more
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I see in this year, he's been really good at
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: laying off the high the fastball right above the zone,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: which used to eat him up. And I don't know
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: if that's an ABS thing or not, but he's been
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: great at that. But how many were on in that situation?
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Was it two on, man on third, two.
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: Outs, one one out, man on third. Oh, that's right,
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: works its way to a three zero coount. Yeah, it's
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: a tie game, so you know they're looking for one
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: run to go ahead and close it out with Kirby
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: coming in in the ninth.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have. I would think on a three
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: to zero at the very worst, he gets a good
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: rip the fastball I believe was right down the middle.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: He flies out to an outfielders to run in. Yeah,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: he's your best hitter right now. Why not? Mike's always
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: he's always been reluctant to swing three to zero, but
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I think he's had some success doing it in the
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: few in the very few times he has. But yeah,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: in that situation, I turned him loose. So this is
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: the whole game was pretty odd, especially as we got
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: it in the later innings. We're going to close the
• 36:22
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• 36:27
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• 36:30
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