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Richard B. Spencer - Isolationism Is Back it could cost the West everything, MAGA, Ukraine,Vance, Musk · Gunther Fehlinger Podcast

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  Think you for haveing me on here, Günther II really a
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  corageute you're virus to check me out see we see we effekt.
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  We absolute Liam. I was already a part of your
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  show. I think one year, go you and
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  white it me on your show and i was on not to be there and to
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  this kind of about ne to enlargement and it was very
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  interesting to me also to have this debate and now it's my i
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  certity call for you to come to my show and i'm very happy that
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  this was sols a possible to work together.
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  And now, Richard Tellers a little bit about yourself in
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  Wikipedia Disayed you are the father of the old right term in
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  many terms, so what you what there's am denial of you as
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  welling bludit so what's your statement her.
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  We'll just there's a lot that about man and wikipedia so some
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  of them some of the things or actually acurate at some of them
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  or so or of extreme pendions, but yes, so II gruwup i was born
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  in massachusetts in Boston and i gruwup in dalas taxes and i win
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  to the University briginia and the university of Chicago.
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  And there's we're my do graser from i was actually studing for
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  doctor it at Duke University, but i droped out and i work for
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  a small magazine. It's still about call the
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  american conservative and that was sword of pat you canens
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  magazine when i was there and this i don't think you have a
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  was dragly and balled and editing but he was sort of his
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  baby his vibe of. I get you can say and t.
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  George W. Bush conservative them when it's
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  start it and you two thousand and it was well you know i do
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  have some more new ons dependance about that time and
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  i've even new ons dependance about the neocons now at the
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  time in the two thousens. I was three vietnamly against
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  the Rock war and to be all in us it themes that most people with
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  agree with me back in two thousand and three one.
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  I was just out of college and in two thousand and seven and two
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  thousandate one i was working and the american conservative,
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  but I'm not try agree of my self of this plan.
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  What I'm in by that is the. Biggest defender of George Bush
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  and i totally agreed with the liberation of the rug and now
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  it's twenty 1000000 new free people with live in the rug.
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  The population is increest from twenty six to forty six 1000000
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  because of security, prosperity and freedom.
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  Thank you're George w. Bush.
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  I interstand your prospektive and II can.
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  II have a sured of critical perspektive on this.
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  Here's now because II feel like there's a temtation to it's
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  isolation as i'm that has really take in holt in.
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  The conserved of movement as it is today, we're people think
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  that you know one dollar of moni Tords USA or one USAIDI just say
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  or one dollar moni tords a military basen in Germany.
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  One dollar money here there and every there that's a dollar tick
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  and right out of your wallet and we should just stop engaging in
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  the world and there was also a fantasy with the ron paul
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  movment and you know i was and balled in the ron paul movment
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  is wallent two thesand and a if we can just remove bring I'm
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  home as ron paul it say we just remove the military bases from a
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  broad there we be free trade a cross the world and peace.
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  And brotherhood and and all this things that you can here in the
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  invase of and's night company, which is probly being
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  performance right, the instant and vienna.
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  I don't believe in you this things in you more II do think
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  that the rock and we're was a wonder i think it was a waste of
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  treasure in life, that's remember there was problem
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  1000000 death that a cared do that invasion but.
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  I do think with there's a temtation to be isolationist
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  that is wrong. The fact is american citizens
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  abrage american's benefit from the American Empire if I'm going
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  to pudd it really bloodlay and we benefit from the
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  international is I'm revend there i see globalism that
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  America has persued sense nineteen four and we was like
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  you're can't like it this. A with a more dplay infekt,
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  we're a grate beneficiary of the dollar system to name one thing
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  with us that in nighting potifour there's the creation
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  abread and what's at the end of the seco world war there's so to
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  have to be a new paradime the British empire one in the two,
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  it's flailing Americans did not one you know Hitlers Designs.
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  Of a kind of century or centraly Europa kind of idea or what ever
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  and they sirly don't one a communist go globalism as well
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  they're have to be a new paradime that can't make the
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  world work. The fact is people like one paul
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  belief that if military bases when a way of America stop
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  pretrolling the Seas. That they're be free trade and
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  peace, love and brotherhood. The execed opposit is the case
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  the free market as we know it is a product of politics, it's a
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  product, it's a military product the for it is an economic
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  product we or the beneficiar is as americans of the Dollar
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  system of the American Empire of American might around the world.
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  And I don't think a what of conservative is now really grass
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  that and it was hard for me to grassbat at the time because i
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  saw the i get a stand campaign as he bristic biding off more to
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  we can you i saw the rock a campaign did o this is going to
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  create all sorits of unintende consequence is and deft and
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  destruction we don't know with there doing and all of this or
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  fair critises and i still probably holtes.
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  But i think i was temped it in to that isolation is them of.
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  We just just walk away from everything and it will all be
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  fine. The fact is we live on a planet,
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  there have to be some store of paradime that connects
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  everything oder we will be live in Chaos, so just we end of the
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  American Empire is a what was then any.
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  Stailing of the Empire in ihm a stakemade by the American
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  Empire, there's an minnie but ending at really is words and i
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  appreciate that as i growalder and as i think more deplay on
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  the things and as i read thinker is or a realistic band as a post
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  will libritarian that or is a post to a sort of polyanish
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  isolationist band. Of Just live the World alone, it
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  will all be find i have change in that sands, the we're think
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  is that i think that the conserbative movment is adopting
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  the same polyan ash attitude tours the world and it's if an
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  adopting assort of. Sidistic pro Russia attitute to
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  the world, I don't think we can underrestimate that the greed of
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  which followers of JD vans a lot of this people at tp USA America
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  fest what's maybe you see in on your timeline the Charly Kirk
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  event i don't think we you're underrestimate that the greed
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  with they. Hey Ukraine and one the words
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  for ukraine and think that russia is cool.
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  Vladimir Putin he's an orphet Ox Christian he hates the gays as a
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  winski is some comedian and charge of a contery and they
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  just one a person global homo as they call it in ukraine that's
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  how they are seeing and you have the.
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  Russian in bassiters who are deplay connected with whitcoff,
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  Vans etc. Promotingness that russian's
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  fiding get saitonisom in twenty twenty two and the war begin
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  jordan petersons that that Russia was building a war.
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  I invading you Crane it was building a war, i can's wokness.
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  Or what have you so II think just a some up on two wavles i
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  think the conservative have a embrasted a little bit of that
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  pauli, and as attitude that I've bel for two and here's a go be
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  and what words in this II think mini conservative leaders JD
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  Vans and what cof bing extrem examples, but mini avrage
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  conservative. Have invrasted a pro Russia
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  aditute, they don't just what not have you crane because it my
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  have's a one internet consequence they actible one
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  russia to sexed they see ban on with speaking about saving
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  russia from it's on failings think of home Andy Pore Russian
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  soldiers up died in this invasion we've got a do's up
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  that is. A prodominant attitude, not a
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  mong all or most even republic and voders, but that is a
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  prodominant attitude, a mong, i would say most republic and
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  influencers. And mini people in the top
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  level's a power so II think it's something to be for from Euro
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  prospektive in in Europe who cares about ne so and the West
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  etc. I think it's something to be
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  we're it about intensly we're it about infekt.
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  And we're really very verit about because you know people
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  like me. I'm very very pro American my
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  live long and I'm very bro Ronald Reagan and George Bush.
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  I'm a student of the Young America's Foundation.
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  I'm the Investment two years of the european conservative
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  students ideas. It's called we in Empire America
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  we want to strong American Transatlantic Relation and we
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  want America to rule the world basically in the sense as a
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  anker power to dominate and to set the rules for everybody and
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  what i you doing now in the last a specialy this year, two
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  thousand twenty five. It feels like this famous a step
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  in the back. I think in is and i think
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  America is steping it's self in the back it in this very weared
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  what in which America's don't upreciate.
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  What we've builded over the last center or really sense nighting
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  four nighting five and the end of the second world war we we
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  don't appreciate how the American empire to like mini
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  problems and II totally get it in terms of you know with with
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  this sort of globalism that the American empire in emplies out
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  sourcing and immigration is it i get it.
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  But we also should in underrestamate that agreed it
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  with we a benefit it from that the ability for your average
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  american to aquire goods of cheap food, televisions et
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  cetera at a very well price is a direkt result of American
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  military power and the American Empire in the American Dollar
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  System and. Yeah, i get the temtation to say
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  you know we want to make those a home and and so on, but the kind
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  of dislocation that that is going to and ply is dramendes we
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  kind of wars that we like be invalt and if we give up on a
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  paradime are going to be far words, then the small wars that
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  we've in fighting you know here in there at for out my lifetime
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  the back this. Russia benefits from the right
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  wing in the United States and i know we have a tendency because
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  particulity people here you know.
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  I'm in my forties I'm forty Seven, you're simular we absurd
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  of a tendency to you russia as part of the left do do the
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  soviet. History oh there's there's
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  supporting the clominus Party in United States.
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  There's supporting the new left to the you know the red army
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  faction or or something like that and they have and they like
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  do that again etc. That's a real fear, but i think
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  something allses have and when i was in valed and you know the
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  all right that you know aater ten here's a go.
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  There was i was robbing shulters with pro Russian forses a lot of
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  this i to do even with my x wife to be onest II publish so works
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  by Alexander dougan that she was eagrary translating so i was
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  deep and it i was an as deep and it as a people, but i was there
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  and i. Felt that sword of influence at
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  just point, they don't need some sword of marginal intellectual
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  like myself, so one who's a little bit out rages of pushes
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  the on the lope and is philosophical is that are they
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  don't need that's hyper person they have JD vans.
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  They have anapole luna or what have a former stripper who's in
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  Congress. They have charly curk to be on
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  as II was Charly curk out it in assassinate that was a terrible
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  think the fact is charly curk was overly pro russia and and to
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  ucrane and he is an charge of the vargasmus influential group.
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  For young conservative in the United States, they don't need
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  margin electors they don't need or right wing red army faction a
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  red and republican red army faction they don't need that
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  when they have steve wittkoff who is working instering the
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  recklate to donald Trump and. I they're the great which
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  christianer is pro russia. I think there is an interesting
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  article on the Wall Street Journal.
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  They can now i can they have they're tentagles every there
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  they can a about people like what cof to do paul of some
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  realistate deal with russia or or in a some complicated scan
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  that was out linded by the wall street journals amazing
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  supporting. If you wix it go, they can do
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  that and they can basicly push America over the edge.
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  The russions do not they like they think the west is sitanic
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  that is out they're reckly to pic what we're doing and it's
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  not just so you know extrem. Gay Group up to nonsens and you
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  know what what every they they think the west in it's self is
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  sitanic they think to things that conservative's love of that
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  the west or sitanic the so callt bolti polarity with teams to be
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  you know sort of libral and some way you know you will have are
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  spir you have your spir you it all are that's all bullshit.
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  They absolutly Hey Europe, they hey the things about Europe that
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  conservative's actually what they've you that as satan and
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  they are holding back the Tide Holding back the intrance of the
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  anti Christ or how what what we're so it of done sensogal or
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  or that you was psychology thatthey.com up with in the
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  crimland so they don't just by in the American of.
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  All that's but Putin is. The KGB trained Person he live
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  by fears in the KGB world. He is a active agent trained by
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  the enemy kgb if anybody is the antichrist, it's wladimir
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  buting. I totally agree and i think if
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  he sexy. It's i think conserved is my
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  view and as such because what he ones in the west is chaos.
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  So ja they like support som leftwing activities they like
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  support som crazy conservative stop they like it's with the
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  Kind is owen stop she i'm very suspicius of that she is
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  basically attacking investor and leaders and cluting emanuel
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  Macron who who have ben overall solid on the you crane question
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  and he's he's attacking home of the most out ragers ridiculus
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  fashion. So they what tea us in the west
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  that benefits them that basly be end of the twenty century
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  paradime with Wladimir Putin. Things is a jew political
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  katastrophe, be end of the sobiat union, so what is
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  refuring to not us is serrity marxist economics, but basically
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  disort of stable. It of me stable corruption that
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  you can that is basicly a desruption of the russian e
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  canomic system and a geo political power phasing off
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  agains europe. They see the end of the American
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  Empire Chaos of Ini kind what there's going to can the lap the
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  right top bottom christians athe is just muslims whatever ini
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  sort of chaos is good for them because that paradime has not a
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  lot them. To be a big daddy on the world
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  stage that paradime of bradan Woods, the American Empire.
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  Patrolling the High Sees liberalism moral us as a store
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  is a paradime for the world. The liberalism evan that is
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  intaganistic tour is the russian interest we they can have
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  they're dekan stagy grey horrible but stable russian
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  world that can you know main tain it so of as a geopolitical
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  entity k us benefits them if that means the just.
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  Erruption of everything american's all dear so be it,
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  we're seate in the seniways so that is the strategy.
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  Putins Russia He's Bate Head premiums to the talibans for
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  American soldiers. I'm in the Instinct Russia is
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  the enemy. Absolute.
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  It's about you, ukraine. Wir talken hier about twenty
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  years of Consequence, enemy ship and old Global Conflicts Where
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  America is leading the West and russia is the enemy how can any
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  American Patriot Support Wladimir Putins war in Ukraine
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  It's for me a mystery. If you a told me that
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  republicans what be pro Putin and pro Russia and it be and
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  wibroles what be willing to take up the mansal of the call of
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  war. I never what a believe you if
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  you a told me that twenty years it go, i never what a believe
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  you, but that is it's zacklay what is happed.
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  It's unbelievable yes, so reversal of nature.
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  Do you think gunther that there was ever a oper a real
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  opportunity to integrate russia in to the west partically in the
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  jelson and and and putin periot because.
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  This is what the west Obi stright Bill Clinton was drying
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  desperate to stabilize Democratic Russia under yelzin
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  and we your science we were not so powerful, but we tryed is
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  well, but the thing is we basical lost the civil war
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  Inside Russia it was Putins Group who one against the
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  democrates against the conservatives against the
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  europeans if you wanna they he killed them all and he one it.
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  And now, it's not that we rejected Russia and but it was
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  Putins click who one the civil war inside Russia and im Post
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  his vision of revengeest Russia on Russia after ninety nine and
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  later, denn he had the money and the resources of the ten years
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  of konsolidation. You take this money, we as
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  european's of basicity pating for as energy it tokeed to
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  america to buy influence and change the Republic and Party.
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  Yes I've in II was Reasily Reading The Biography a Putin
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  and you do get the sons. I'm he desperty want it to be a
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  KGB agent. From a very young h and when he
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  was given in interview, he's he was given the big ass.
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  Get was like Santa Class. You know delivered home is
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  mosewish for a present and do the tree.
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  I don't know if you has an ideology i don't think, but in
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  reputing is marxist xaquly and i don't think he things in the way
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  that really bulch of it leader is what's thing of a global
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  revolution and a you know transformation of every aconomy
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  or around the world and beyond i.
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  I don't think he've things like that II think he is a product of
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  a sowitified if we're a match on progressive, so wie it's fear
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  that he one's to main tain he think's in terms of the way to
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  do economics is to be massable coroped.
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  And tasicly work was some all a garks and get some kickbacks
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  yourself and a kationaly clame that there persecuteed russian
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  speakers some here and then it bate the contery and and the row
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  a bunch of soldiers and to the me grider II think that is is
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  overriding expectation for politics, that's what he ones.
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  I don't think he actually has a big dream for the world in the
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  way that trotski or or lenin clearly did there's we're
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  intellectuals who became revolutionaries and in
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  intellectuals a became politicions, but I'm reputins
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  not in intellectual baning striped to the magination he
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  basly understands wie modus operandi of his live.
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  In the midelate so wie Union and then project that for word as
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  Russian traditionalism are what we diser how the world to be
• 27:54
  etc. But that how's clear
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  geopolitical implications II I'm just to be totally fair here i.
• 28:06
  I do understand why he with one to takeover you crane in the
• 28:13
  sands that there is a geografic funneling mcanism with you
• 28:20
  crane, we're a german army or a european army because march
• 28:26
  three you crane to the caspian and basicly deliver a kind of
• 28:30
  knock out blow to the Russian empire.
• 28:34
  We just Russia is in hairotlyan Empire Russia is not wink
• 28:38
  prussia or not like a most western and central European
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  states, we're they are they have clearly defined borders, they
• 28:48
  there phasing off and's adbaseries on all sites, they're
• 28:51
  need to be sured of instance in a territory mini borders acreate
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  by idar buddies of buddies of water Rivers Mountain Rangers
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  that's not will Russia is russia is this massive.
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  Zone basicly we're you need Mobility a cross Award swards of
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  territory to keep it going and so rich and you're can be.
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  Nobody one to do attack Russia. I.
• 29:20
  Wasly don't want to attack Russia, i can naked statement
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  your no what we want to to attack Russia.
• 29:26
  This is all in the nineteen fourties the last time now we're
• 29:29
  peaceful European union, we're the nice guy and some people
• 29:34
  like Elon musk one to x us and what bami white that.
• 29:41
  Vice that we fees twenty 1000000 follows he as deside it to ex
• 29:46
  the friendly european Union. The peaceful European Union and
• 29:51
  he things that russia is cool and we are the bad guys and this
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  i'm how is so far from the reality and that we a really
• 29:58
  just flapagest at here in Europe.
• 30:01
  I don't understand E.ON Musk motivations and me.
• 30:06
  There's some interesting connections of russia or really
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  on a space x. And so on, but i don't know of
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  that is sufficient to explaine why he's he's been so
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  consistantly pro russia not of a very beginning of you crane
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  complate, but from mit twenty two on word, i don't understand
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  it but you go back really quickly just a finish my ford
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  even if. Europeans have then peacewalt
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  nice guys. You know a bit decked and we're
• 30:37
  like say after the fukuyomi fukuyomi and and of history that
• 30:41
  the curren in nineteen niney one II get it how a stensible it's
• 30:48
  ridiculus to think that germany with one two and vate russia i
• 30:53
  get or i you army II get it but i think Vladimir Putin things.
• 30:59
  In terms of this one purits of time, he's so to project them
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  when he was in that regiculus interview with taka carlson, he
• 31:09
  was talking about treedies that he've down in and archive some
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  where in moskau from the liter ages and how russia was betreed
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  even that i me do was it was absurd on some level, i was like
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  me finding some guy who. Baro the hundred box for my
• 31:30
  grand father and demanding the money back.
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  Just this sort of like conflation or collapse of time.
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  We're he's still living of us in your to go and and so and so i
• 31:44
  think he does believe that evan of it's not right this instant
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  that eventually europeans will get there act to act to get
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  there they'll bekommen notsees once going.
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  That the notification think and you crane was i I'm not sing
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  this is going to have and i'm think this that we think and
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  that they will just invate one smore in order to destroy not up
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  and in order to destroy moskau, i do believe that that is how we
• 32:14
  things i don't think you can Bully explane the u crane
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  invasion you're really on the ocean of.
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  Your of the was the linski regime.
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  I don't think you can explain it fully on just a graph just
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  sucking resources taking things that will once part of the
• 32:32
  russians beer. I don't think you can fully
• 32:34
  explain it. I think geopolic ex has to be
• 32:36
  involed and and understanding of wive Wladimir Putin invaded you
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  Crane and if you if you understand it in that way you
• 32:47
  understand, it is going to go forder.
• 32:50
  There we're miniot or contries that are now in Nato or in the
• 32:54
  european spear red large that we're once part of the sovi
• 32:59
  union that we're once part of the russian empire and i
• 33:05
  absolutly believe that he once this back, there's an
• 33:09
  interesting intelligence or port that came out of royders that's
• 33:12
  going to start invading other conries that intelligence might
• 33:17
  for a well be korrekt, but the point is.
• 33:20
  That's all coming from Vladimir Putins World View.
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  There's a all ininating from his basic prosumtions about what
• 33:31
  Russia should be so what do the intelligence a solid or not it's
• 33:36
  korrekt in the sensit that is how he view the world and at
• 33:41
  dispoint. Why i I'm in why have a pretance
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  about being integrated in europe to this to grate or that why not
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  just becom and in taganistic entity fully you know that
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  you're not going to be welcome back in to Germany in e time, so
• 34:06
  so why not start taking back that territory that was last.
• 34:12
  We Vladimir Putin work in He's Germany.
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  He's things of that he is basic persontion is that do's
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  territory should be in the russian sphere evan of there's
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  still speaking german he'ven of they are different religiity and
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  they should be integrated in to the so be at block that is how
• 34:34
  he things. In's five years a go when we one
• 34:39
  with American help, we've on a dragon and George Bush Farber we
• 34:43
  one the gold war, and then that we're about one hundred fifty
• 34:47
  1000000 europeans liberated if home communism thanks a lot
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  america and this was a you unic think and we integrated about
• 34:56
  one hundred 1000000 new people in to the european Union and in
• 34:59
  nato. With your help with your
• 35:01
  guidance with your security and brella and is people all wanted
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  to join and the wanted to be free and they're now.
• 35:08
  Relatively prospers in Romania and in polen and is a really
• 35:12
  very successful relatively countries and they're really to
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  inquite well we flow taxes and good defense industries and good
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  to friving economies and things a going really well of the
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  generation of freedom. And now, why is america
• 35:28
  considering to treat us as a civilizational decline as a
• 35:35
  collapseing continent and all this things we're in the
• 35:39
  security strategy, we cheemingly JD vance as put forward now as a
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  official government document and he's but training Europe and I'm
• 35:50
  living now hier in Vienna and i know every single country of
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  Europe actually for my trevors and my work and i.
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  No, it's a wonderful and very very successful continent may be
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  not as successful as we good be and not as wonderful as america,
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  but we are far from discant of persiflash and negative Image
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  witch American government dokuments on now potraingers.
• 36:12
  And we are in europe not only the left but they're overs and
• 36:15
  the american, but also from the conservatives here we a little
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  not a little, but we a totally shocked surpriseed how going to
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  can have such a picture of us the.
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  And tigan is and tourists europe in the conservative boom and
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  actually goes quite deep. Evan twenty Thirty is a go.
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  You with here memes at conservative events up we're
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  anock in the bekommen Europe, we're anock in the bekommen the
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  Europe in Union and that was as kind of constellation a
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  different things there is the muslim demigration and to europe
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  particular after nine eleven it's like they're in viding in
• 36:59
  the terroras to tok down the towers that was one no.
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  Ship we have not inviteed andy but.
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  I interstand I'm in there, there are some problems there there's
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  the the refugee crisis of twenty time was also quite big that was
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  in miniways the falls of ungail americal who accepted sodrer and
• 37:22
  responsibility to. We have a in bite them they can
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  from alone. Yes, we'll they also it Remember
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  Vladimir Putin was opening of channels for refugees.
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  Ja, i is. We're Putin pomped everybody in
• 37:37
  Syria in to submission that the people have to runaway for
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  Turkey. It was hands iting the Refugee
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  Christes Vladimir The Anti Christ.
• 37:47
  Not it's up a lot of me of the anti christ who just absolutely
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  one's to take down all that is good and you're up and he
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  benefit it from the rapid g Christ is invultible ways it is
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  chaotic and it also in spirers or ligidamize is rightwing
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  polititions home he is funding like the AFD so a you my i get
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  if you're. If you're lizeners or viewer's,
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  don't know that's not about me to o ritured spenceries right
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  wing. He was love the afg I don't
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  support the afg at all it's specificity do to the policy
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  torres rusha and there's so it of fantasy idea that.
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  Germany can be independant in in this day and as have an
• 38:31
  independant for an policy. It's not desirible, but it's not
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  if an posible but in anyway poting not aside the chaos of
• 38:39
  the refugee crises and out of we is in favor of lot of reputant
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  and that is white, he has infekt supported discrises.
• 38:52
  And supported the Wright wing politisions who are going to
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  scoream about it. The out is and are pro Russia
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  afdbing paradematic in that regard now there's a and emosity
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  strats you're up from conservative of you know they
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  they the cheese eating surrendor monkeys and friends to then
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  support the Rock war there's taxes or two h I'm in i that's
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  also get it. But i think the adamosity has
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  been different. I Don't Remember Hereing pro
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  Russia Commentary for mainstream conservative's ten years a go
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  and Infekt and I will it mit my ownfalt here in twenty forteen
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  and verabouts pro russia statements or coming from people
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  like me. All all it absolutly it mit that
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  in the sense, they're going from the all right we were trine to
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  be ag. We saw you know II have if all
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  i. Because more the flaptive on
• 39:58
  these things as i've got in all there and it that period and pro
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  Russia and the American commentary was coming from the
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  all right from this my sphere at this point in time, it is coming
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  from the mainstream right and it is coming from people in the
• 40:17
  government if not extackly Donald Trump in self.
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  Donald Trump is a bit of a wildcard here because Donald
• 40:26
  Trump is a bove. Those tipes he's a bove with
• 40:29
  cop, he's a bove jd vans he's a bove even you on musk and he
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  does it have an ideology he's ideology is trump he's ideology
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  is is on narces is on and grass for more money and fame and
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  power and and the feeding. Is personal enemies you slideed
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  him over the passiers that is is ideologic trump in Oh and II did
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  it vot for Donald Trump i voted for combily Heras and i voted
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  for Joe biden in the twenty twenty, but i would say that in
• 41:08
  I'm speaking objective here i not speaking for my heart I'm
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  speaking for my Head do to Donald Trumps extrem egomania.
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  He actually is a wildcard in the scenarial because he does it
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  have in he can't be influence to of a one pirate of time.
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  He can be influence, but the lastpers and whispered in as
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  here, but of a one pirate of time he's going to perso his a
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  gender and my protection around the euro.
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  Go was that Trump. One it to be ap smaker in you
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  crane and you know this never what if that and by we're in
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  office that kind of so and he one it to just in the war and be
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  going to price and be appluded at conferences etc.
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  Now my interpretation was that he was it going to beable to do
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  this because. Putin has and get conquer
• 42:12
  territory that he officialy annext in twenty two the war as
• 42:18
  not gone well for Vladimir Putin and the reputation of the
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  Russian army is dogfot. At this point, my interpretation
• 42:31
  was that Putin was going to key pressing donald Trump press for
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  more and that purely out of ego Donald Trump with turn and
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  Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump is not and t war he my talk like
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  that we end it seven war is you're welcome, we're Donald
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  Trump as a wong them upsest with.
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  Guns nuclear wapons being the strong man, there's no betterway
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  of a shiving those ego dreams then going to to to with the
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  ruskies and in the words of toctor Strange love so IJD Vans
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  themes motivated in ways that I don't fully in the stand.
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  You on musk clearly things motivated again.
• 43:23
  It was it or anexplicable to me. Donald Trump is a wildcard and i
• 43:29
  think there is still a pos, a it's lucks bad right now there's
• 43:33
  no that about it but that's remember if you things about
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  Donald Trump Obama is Donald Trump set this is a critis is of
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  this true obama sent blank it's do you crane.
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  The first time we will aid what to you Crane was in the Trump
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  Administration and Trump drags about the stop he's and the.
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  Chevalins the chevalins that's the sisive to Rebell the Russian
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  invasion in the really days of two thousand twenty two around
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  Kiew, and it will's mit American chevalins and by Trump who
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  helped to you cranians to defin Kiew.
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  So a to you crane that's in a factive in shutdown what is have
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  to think now is a europeans or in a sense buying american
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  weapons and giving them to you crane, so it's a sord of trumpy
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  and deal of what's like money off the sting that's not be
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  shiredable. So that in that's not the word
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  sting that i'd imagine. But he go zella some tomahax and
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  we go to teach the russians a good lesson of American justice
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  with some good tomahax and then putin with you for Beast.
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  Very fast. I totally a Grey.
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  It would be better, but it also can be words right now all and
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  sang is that in twenty twenty Sex.
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  We don't bully no what's going to happen because Trump himself
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  is in charge and trump himself is a wildcard now there are
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  people that i don't thinker wildcards II do think that what
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  cof Vans, Musk etc. Et cetera this are wolfs in the
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  hinhouse. Or Fox in the hinaus what have a
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  the metal for is they are bad acters and they're consistently
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  bad a the consistently bad trump i what's a just is a wildcard do
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  to his bizarre ego manial personality.
• 45:31
  So Trump, no want to be on the wining side.
• 45:34
  So we have to tipp the side to what's you crane, we just
• 45:39
  reasonly took ninety billion of alone as european euros to
• 45:43
  senses crane to give it was just to last friday and it is a
• 45:47
  decision to fund you crane for another two years and that will
• 45:51
  be an off money for that and so you're you cane will definitly
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  sustain and i can sure you no met a what is coming we will
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  keep you crane in the fight and we will Wind is war.
• 46:03
  But it would be muchesia. We've more American firepower
• 46:08
  attached to the european money and this is my question.
• 46:12
  Do you think it America will stand will fast and with you
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  Crane in twenty Six. I think it likes, I'm repeating
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  myself will but here i think it likes bad right now because
• 46:25
  they're they're a moves in new United states to stop you can
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  selling web and's do you crane there are we've see in this p
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  steals they get league and so on i think it actuity likes quite
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  bad my hope is that Donald Trumps.
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  Have the logical toxic personality like infekt be the
• 46:48
  save your of you crane because if he start a if he starts to
• 46:53
  view russia as lousing dramaticlay he can switch sites
• 46:58
  because he lots winners you know he he he's always taking fotos
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  with boxers and popstars or what it he what we're if you win he
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  like see you basiclay he's not a serie is person you know it
• 47:11
  effekt. But i the other thing is that if
• 47:16
  he starts to feel slideed personaly, but Vladimir Putin i
• 47:21
  can also see it romatic change so III think the resian army is
• 47:29
  on the robes at this point. I this is not gone well,
• 47:35
  Vladimir Putin is razing taxes doing alls all this sort of.
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  Things that the otherwise with not do to main tane the fight,
• 47:45
  so I'm it. I don't think and you realistic
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  person because it this and they are the amazing rashion army
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  it's on the robes, but it can be saved by some terable keys deal.
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  That is pursuit by whitcoff and company that they personally
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  benefit from and that basely goods russia arrasped we're much
• 48:07
  like there in nine ten years between the ukraine in crisis in
• 48:11
  twenty forteen and the invasion twenty two you're going to have
• 48:14
  a simware situation of five years.
• 48:17
  Oh, we have this ps and what a we going to learn oh russian
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  speakers or been persecuted and ukraine in territory.
• 48:25
  The the Ukraine and army, it's varger the what we a greet to
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  they're going to.com up with some pretax and they're going to
• 48:34
  continue the invasion because this is from Vladimir Putins
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  Perspektive existential so II think we're in a very difficult
• 48:45
  time right now, I'm in i would love to say here i think twenty
• 48:49
  twenty six is going to be avasing for you crane, but i'm
• 48:52
  not sure III think much more a likely it's.
• 48:55
  This ambiguity is going to continue is they're going to be
• 48:59
  a real big turning point. We see a russian call ups that
• 49:04
  with be wonderful. Maybe all the sewing for peace
• 49:08
  is in a temp to stay of a colapse that Evan Vladimir Putin
• 49:13
  can see II have that's the case, but if i want to make a
• 49:18
  realistic connection, i would say that the ambiguity is going
• 49:21
  to continue for in that your. 2060 ist also eine election hier
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  in the United States with the November mit terms coming wech
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  will be decize for Trump and maga and the internal struggles
• 49:33
  of the Republic and party what's your participed for the for the
• 49:37
  26 november elections will Trump beable to keep the control of
• 49:44
  the Congress or will he loose the power over the american
• 49:48
  legislative process. In my Produktion is that he will
• 49:51
  loose power offer the legislator it of a congress that is it's a
• 49:57
  one term trend. The first Bit term Alection
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  Actor a New President goes the other way, they're a few conter
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  examples to this two thousand two, it's a be bush your man but
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  mostile will see a reversal the cowboy just you was.
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  He and larged Nato he would seven countries into nato and he
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  over suit and you know I'm a european conservative for me.
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  Really matters. Most what happens here in Europe
• 50:28
  and this was a American President who understood Europe
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  who was ready for resources for europe for political capital and
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  he over so the enlargement of ten new countries have of viston
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  Europe caming to the you under his presidency and seven new in
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  to countries and he went to creation in two tho nine.
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  Was no long or the president when the creation and albania,
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  we're coming into and the european also intonato and in
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  you know the sin was like this. George Bush going to sacrit and
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  cring cring for emotion because he so the country, we're was
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  liberated on these father from jugoslavia and joinato he was
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  emotionally really there and. And the cons was obama at the
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  meeting of nato. We was the president already and
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  he just a put senator the priminister of creation and the
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  priminister of albania into some shady corner for quick signing
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  and didn t hefen stop for making a selfie with the priministers
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  because he really didn care, but george bush he get force.
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  So it do it's it's it's a problem.
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  Anic is George Herberwalker Bush was with you Crane we can't
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  forget he what it's you're the. Erican's have a as a sands of
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  Unity, we've have unity of Russia, we're i really don't
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  know. What II Think George
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  Herberwalker Bush is spellings are so it's understandable
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  you're you're a genlman you're rast in the stability of the
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  cold war. We don't what to fuck not up to
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  be. Blond about it so i i'd going to
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  understand is failings but II think jurrage regarbus jurrage
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  wb Bush was a product of that generation, he's a boomer is or
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  in nineteen forty 6 I've live so he've live to the cold war that
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  there's are he understands that heradime he's saw in the middle
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  of is life nineteen nine as a wonderful event and you know i
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  don't know i don't have no have jd vans bus nineteen.
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  What the they the german's butray russia or something they
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  they join the sitanic gay west. I think that's my i how we my
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  view it i me this just up surd. I the Ways a gating in Europe we
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  have the of course also gate people but are politicians and
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  not gay. We are not gay and we are not
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  gay or Europe and. II I'll go and what.
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  A make it very clear, we'll respekt it'll sexual liberties
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  and freedom, but we a very much the same like america we are not
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  this. Oh, oh of course and II see.
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  IA what to with Myer in the German Chancellor mercen and i
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  think i think they're good interms of where we are he's,
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  but we're the. Real flattex conservative and
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  he's a real conservative hole is life.
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  and still is and he's really like what have a dream and he
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  conservative in American have to have a german chancellor.
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  I wonder all just store this out.
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  I'll be a little can't this owen see here i but in revers ongain
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  americal i think was it a truly disasteres translar of germany
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  and it's almost is if she we're in east german deep agient we.
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  Met to promote Russia and undermine the western world
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  widder and I'm know that rather seriesly she's she prosideed
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  over the ending of nuqueer power in Germany.
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  She prosideed over the constructions of these pipelines
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  that you know natural resourses go to the west Ost politic and
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  money go City East. And and and there's a building
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  of a bridge between russia and in germany in that way she
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  persided of the refugee crisis, she clame savrin of theory of a
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  bringing refugees to germany. She was a total katastrophe and
• 54:43
  I don't know if she we're a crimline agent i see that with a
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  my tong in my cheek say that a with a bit jokingly, but she
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  onost active is if she we're i was.
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  We just say that i think you was a terrorable chancer.
• 54:59
  Richard you know in der hindside after we have see in the
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  Desaster of the gut in the Take. It's so was easy to judge and
• 55:07
  the polititions twenty and say what they have don't wrong and
• 55:12
  so i not the big defender of angela merkel and many ways
• 55:16
  because she destroid my dream of a flatex movement in two
• 55:20
  thousand twenty two. But in reality, she was never
• 55:24
  the soul ruler of Germany. She Ovis never a social
• 55:29
  democratic Party as a partner who was very close to Russia yes
• 55:34
  and g ovis managed the situation as she found it and she lect
• 55:39
  maybe a little bit the Coolness to override all the gentlemen
• 55:44
  around her. And she should have dunded and
• 55:48
  but it would have help this well to have a partner in America to
• 55:51
  managed the world together befur I'm sure she would a presisted a
• 55:55
  russia harder if there would have been not obama in the White
• 55:59
  House who Ultimate Reset, Let's grimear let a go and let's not
• 56:05
  comfront the russians because the trophies in in Europe we are
• 56:10
  relative ly defence less we fout the American hard power.
• 56:14
  You are heaving the nuclear power over Europe.
• 56:17
  You are our nuclear ditariance you have the big military bases
• 56:22
  in Italy and Germany from the second world, you have the
• 56:25
  command and control system in America that you are able to
• 56:29
  project power globaly you have the nuclear aircraft carriers in
• 56:35
  our seas. You know and that was always
• 56:37
  quite convenient because we didn t have as very good track record
• 56:42
  for fighting wars. Any how we were fighting on the
• 56:45
  wrong side you remember we were and you have to feet us first
• 56:50
  and then it was not so practically to give nuclear
• 56:53
  power to the defited nazi germany i think that what have
• 56:56
  been manage american's what's sure.
• 57:00
  Butter. And so it's continued a little
• 57:03
  Bit and Angela Merkel was the continuation.
• 57:06
  Of a Germany witch was run by America and we work white
• 57:12
  pissfully and the way to deal with Putin when you don't have
• 57:16
  weapons is to bias energy, and i don't do not depend is, but the
• 57:21
  way we forty in europe and most of this people on the top for
• 57:25
  the last for the years had the idea we buy lot of things from
• 57:29
  Russia and then he will not killers and was the deal.
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  Yes, I don't stand I Don't stand i was I remind to was an
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  mindshee in means just in means and gal of them.
• 57:41
  And no because some of the view as might no the details, but in
• 57:44
  two thousand fifteen it was like this it putin was basically to
• 57:49
  feating ukraine already in the februar is two thousand fifteen
• 57:53
  Putin as one the war in ukraine and this armies we're on the
• 57:57
  much and the online think we as europeans with obama missing in
• 58:02
  action. Hello Mister, Super nice
• 58:05
  friendly obama, he was no Bad to refound no Telefon pict up no
• 58:09
  nuclear supremacy no kind of pushback to the russians so the
• 58:14
  only thing the europeans good do in Minsk is offer putin to buy
• 58:18
  more energy and makeim super rich to mega rich and this is
• 58:23
  exactly what we did the whole mystery of no stream two is that
• 58:27
  was the only ideer the europeans hat to buy Putin.
• 58:31
  Into the system to stop is tanks because there we're no german
• 58:34
  tanks, the we're no polish tanks there we're no ukrainian tanks,
• 58:38
  they're no austrian tanks, maybe the franchets on tanks and the
• 58:41
  british but they're one thousandfive on the kilometer's
• 58:44
  away and putin could if easily matched in to key of in march
• 58:49
  and two thousandfifteen and we desided that's a really bad
• 58:53
  idea. And we gay them more money and
• 58:57
  he just is more money to make in other war in two thousand twenty
• 59:00
  two and again. We are depending on America and
• 59:04
  you can play mit ole on merkel, but it doesn t help a lot
• 59:07
  because. In The stand.
• 59:09
  She did what was her in will her options of action.
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  It was. The was the the side guest is
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  wellness is what your sang and now the side guest is changed
• 59:21
  and so. I America is changed at the
• 59:23
  moment via starting to get a bitmore fighting power and vm
• 59:27
  because märz. Here's put five hundred billion
• 59:30
  euros now on the block of new depp in order to buy new weapons
• 59:34
  to arm Germany to the tief in order to beable to defend you
• 59:38
  grane and Europe because you are missing out.
• 59:42
  And you us you're nine hundred billion defence budget a you
• 59:46
  give out of money by the way it's just ever and greasing for
• 59:49
  exection what for playing around in the caribbean and in stat of
• 59:54
  meaning. This is size for of a century.
• 59:58
  I'll grew is that all the keep and mim that vinesway is not
• 1:00:03
  totally disconneced from russia you you have a sort of russian.
• 1:00:10
  Ored World Spear of Alliances and II don't think this two
• 1:00:15
  things are totally disconnected all the i do agree with your
• 1:00:18
  overriting point with just that this is the word of our time
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  this is we're we need to be bold and strategicly clear as a post
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  to embigues II completely grid that with me as you so.
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  I live through the Fukuyama era of the end of history and europe
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  as a hightechs decked and museum.
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  The that's what it was we you would go there and lots of
• 1:00:50
  wonderful healthcare you can bis it the lou or or this a old get
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  featrals, but it was sort of outside of world history, you
• 1:00:59
  think that not not in twenty twenty 6, but in twenty three.
• 1:01:05
  That in the next deckate you're up by in the sessity is going to
• 1:01:11
  have to be com a independant armed connant that is able to
• 1:01:19
  plosible the terror russia, it's self without and do you think
• 1:01:25
  that's going to have and you think it can't have and you do
• 1:01:29
  you think that the europeans? Are up for that and that goods
• 1:01:33
  for the polititions is a well as the average fritz and i you know
• 1:01:41
  out there you think they're willing to do that.
• 1:01:45
  Yes, we have to because we definity will not beast late of
• 1:01:49
  Russia. And we will defend areselfs and
• 1:01:52
  we will defend you crane what ever the cost.
• 1:01:55
  The what ever the cost means what every takes financialy but
• 1:01:58
  dolls a military nobody wants to be under russian supremacy
• 1:02:02
  anymore and it was very convenient it was by the we no
• 1:02:06
  decadent, but it was very practically that we had a little
• 1:02:10
  bit of a American protection for the last selling ears it was
• 1:02:15
  good for you, it was like sharing the burdon.
• 1:02:19
  And agrid it. Was actually quet good in
• 1:02:22
  europe, be four a history and explain you know again.
• 1:02:24
  It comes back to worldwide, we made pretty bad things in
• 1:02:28
  worldwide and we were fighting a America basically we were
• 1:02:32
  challenge in the western world order because we believed in all
• 1:02:36
  on the premacy we my grandfathers we believed to the
• 1:02:39
  german if you wanna see race is superia to the rest and we are
• 1:02:43
  unfairly not on the top of the world and there for we had to
• 1:02:48
  fight the world and we. We will verifite it by the world
• 1:02:51
  and it was not so popular to good money into the army.
• 1:02:56
  We did it any how because we had actually in germany a very high
• 1:02:59
  defense budget until seven percent on the hide for the cold
• 1:03:03
  war because all a american friends and protectors told as
• 1:03:07
  you have to pay for your on defense will because the boys of
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  a hio can only come of the sumps we need also german meet on the
• 1:03:15
  border to defense against the sowjets and we put it.
• 1:03:19
  It was like this after this end of the we one it was convenient
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  to this arm, but that we live in decadency ok, we have me we to
• 1:03:28
  high pensions i gree we have to high texis but you know it's not
• 1:03:32
  that we are the enemy state because we have high a welfare
• 1:03:35
  and pension system. What Hot we will for Sena Grey?
• 1:03:37
  Yes, you. Know it's a bit what a jay event
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  is pudding. It's ok you know there one
• 1:03:44
  hundred things i want to change in europe is a conservative.
• 1:03:47
  On free speech on taxes on wellfare and a migration, but
• 1:03:51
  that is doesnt put us into the status of a enemy hostel,
• 1:03:55
  competent because the hostels a sitting in russia.
• 1:04:00
  One hundred prozent that the west is not mic stands without
• 1:04:04
  Europe is well. There is no western culture
• 1:04:08
  without the european people and so many of this physical
• 1:04:12
  expressions. I'm in there's mini grate places
• 1:04:15
  in the United States, but i also to you it's a that like the hall
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  of the contenant of nordamericas kind of like last vages more and
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  it is like vienne or there is it's sort of spak, it's a
• 1:04:30
  little. To new so little two much about
• 1:04:33
  money and son the concept of the west do's not exist without
• 1:04:39
  europe and that inkludes the people and also the artistic and
• 1:04:43
  physical manipistations of us. I'm in this is not man for, but
• 1:04:47
  this historic fact at we are the gradle of the global
• 1:04:50
  civilization and on years, i's sirly of christian civilization
• 1:04:55
  that is the historic fact and. To this abandon us now and to
• 1:05:00
  prefairs to russia and a putin is like any how beyond any
• 1:05:05
  reason and beyond any rationality and any all extreme
• 1:05:10
  is something because you all so very diply involved in party,
• 1:05:13
  politics, and what is now the big topic is elon musk i think
• 1:05:17
  two and a 1000000 followers and he puts people in the spotlight
• 1:05:22
  and that's powerful today the power hier is.
• 1:05:25
  Hephood Spears like Robertson in the uk or the AFD, this is alles
• 1:05:30
  weidl in the spotlight and the promotes people and i over
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  strike to bush back. What's you know white it you to
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  feed the nazis in forty five when you want to have the Nazis
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  back in german in Power in two thousand twenty five?
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  You know, i don't said it the if d's i like Hitler you know there
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  of course and there not commiting.
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  For compocated and i ja. You know there not and you could
• 1:05:56
  you know the American conservatives good Support
• 1:05:58
  Friedrich Merz and hieß CSU and CDU.
• 1:06:02
  This are mainstream political parties like the conservatives
• 1:06:05
  like the republican party and it would be a wonderful mutual
• 1:06:10
  support world where we cut taxes together we the feat hour enemy
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  Russia and we. United, Nato and We miked the
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  west great again together, but no all this really famous and
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  millions of people. Follow there at wise and he
• 1:06:27
  supports our enemies internal enemies and you're i we to
• 1:06:32
  statement against ifd i gritiated i would like to
• 1:06:35
  understand why this is happening.
• 1:06:38
  I don't have a form answer, but i will say something.
• 1:06:44
  That maybe get as closer to the answer because some of like
• 1:06:50
  tommy robinson is not exackly a not see your fashest in the
• 1:06:57
  sense that he ones a powerful brulin that european water tommy
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  robinson. Give is is a glams and hered
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  vilders is well. They get is a glams of another
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  typ of the lians and that a lians is actually involving
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  russian, also involving is real. Tomi raminson is phanaticly pro
• 1:07:24
  is real to the point that he will defent things that i think
• 1:07:28
  most resonable people simply canut at this point and
• 1:07:33
  incluting the. Destruction of Gaza and this
• 1:07:38
  just on going and beguity of the arcupation that does it seemed
• 1:07:43
  to be all to resolve and any sered of you.
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  Mains of a lized manor i will just suggest that you know
• 1:07:52
  there's one way of thinking about it, it's it's sered of how
• 1:07:56
  the neo conservative. See the world, we're there is
• 1:08:01
  the cold war era Nato alliance there's the west and that's what
• 1:08:06
  of includes is real and american the west there's a three wags to
• 1:08:12
  it and so it's a little bit controid it to you can't like
• 1:08:15
  but it works there is maybe another vision.
• 1:08:20
  Of the world that we see ininating from tomi robinson
• 1:08:24
  from the afd from Elon musk from jd vans, and that is a new three
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  leg three leg it's tool america Russia and Israel and it's
• 1:08:37
  assord of alternative geopolitics i it includes the
• 1:08:42
  same players but will be fundamentaly different and.
• 1:08:48
  Can that that that is how i see it because i don't fully
• 1:08:54
  understand it. The fact is you on Musk my givea
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  hit we're solo here in there, but he's not an not see and the
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  actually is querely dedicated to isreal and II don't think he is
• 1:09:09
  truly anti symmetic in in in real Fashion did o Tomy Robinson
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  did OIFD did o. Gerd Wilders et cetera, so
• 1:09:19
  there's something allens happening here and maybe there's
• 1:09:22
  some people to feel like it's not just you you're up as deck
• 1:09:26
  it and it's going down birth, rates, low et cetera.
• 1:09:30
  But also America is not long to this world and it's going down
• 1:09:34
  it has some of the same problems and maybe we need to kind of re
• 1:09:41
  reconfigure things with an alliance between.
• 1:09:44
  Russia is real in the United States and you're up with just
• 1:09:49
  simply be left out of that and the notion of the west.
• 1:09:53
  As we know it with no longer be a primary component of this
• 1:09:58
  aliens that this is all bright strokes, this is a bit speculit
• 1:10:03
  of, but i what it put out of your mind, the deep tyes.
• 1:10:08
  Between Benjamin that yahoo, the Prime Minister of Isril and
• 1:10:12
  Wladimir Putin, including the Russian juses might not what i
• 1:10:19
  will's say it who are part of his voting, Blog and alliance in
• 1:10:24
  isril so. I think there's some dark things
• 1:10:30
  going on. I don't think you and i because
• 1:10:32
  we're out of that loop. I don't think we can fully
• 1:10:34
  understand it, but we can like at the phanomen on of the
• 1:10:39
  securing you know what is there's so much friendly in as
• 1:10:43
  between whit cof Kushner Putin that yahoo what is going on
• 1:10:48
  there what is that and i was sujested there is a sort of
• 1:10:52
  alternative geo politics. That we can perhaps glams i
• 1:10:59
  we're think peter teel and there is well i some one he was pro
• 1:11:02
  russia pro is real and has a kind of alternative vision of
• 1:11:07
  America now we've be that think that might be emerging, i am one
• 1:11:14
  hundred and one Prozent on the side of nato in the West.
• 1:11:20
  Think so out, Richard. I would like to understand why
• 1:11:22
  American leaders does an meta witch political parties, but old
• 1:11:26
  is personal. It is you ave menschen, now you
• 1:11:28
  know they support this european rightwing and like you mansion
• 1:11:34
  many of them robertson i don't know hims very will but i know
• 1:11:38
  not the history of the german and austrian political parties
• 1:11:42
  and you not is a all very very strong and the american forces.
• 1:11:47
  In Germany and the nationalist and the Austria, the nationalist
• 1:11:52
  there origin is very much and the americanism and this is
• 1:11:56
  there blood and buther you know. We are under.
• 1:11:59
  The American Yankees We Hate America American World We want
• 1:12:04
  to end Bugs a Americaner and We want to end Nato.
• 1:12:08
  This are there kind of ideological frames for the
• 1:12:12
  deckets now in many ways, this is simply also in friends right.
• 1:12:18
  And right and how to American leaders in the Good Mind Support
• 1:12:23
  the Anti American Extremists in Europe as American.
• 1:12:28
  It does it make sense, but if you start to dick down and i can
• 1:12:35
  this is a furio of mind that i would stress.
• 1:12:39
  If you if you think, don't say well, it does it mic sense, but
• 1:12:42
  does it mic sense on a depra wable is there and at temped to
• 1:12:47
  create a new world order of Israel, Russia and United States
• 1:12:54
  reconfigured and leaving America out if that is the case then
• 1:12:59
  everything you just that mic sense because we can we can
• 1:13:03
  throw money and tweets. And popularity at these writing
• 1:13:08
  fanatics like Tommy robinson, the afd Air dilders etc.
• 1:13:13
  We can do sort of let them go. We can's all there doing is
• 1:13:17
  creating division and chaos. There's the climber National is
• 1:13:22
  the age of national is. It is offer at this point.
• 1:13:28
  The coming h will be about Civilization and not National is
• 1:13:31
  um Europe is Wicker pure it end of statement when it is divided
• 1:13:36
  and you're hundred different parts it's of whit or sover and
• 1:13:40
  in the sensit there fiding one and out or inlesslate divided
• 1:13:44
  and conquer is the h all strategy of domination, so why
• 1:13:49
  if you want if you hate Europe, you would be promoting national
• 1:13:53
  is um in Europe of this right win.
• 1:13:56
  The rite and Conquer so if again my fury with explain what is
• 1:14:04
  going on, but i would stress that it is just a fury.
• 1:14:08
  It's my on way of makeing sense that perhaps there's this
• 1:14:12
  horable. New world order that like be
• 1:14:17
  emerging. I you know China is an
• 1:14:18
  interesting componed of that Russia has the resources is real
• 1:14:23
  is the legisly important addiesly, but but also
• 1:14:26
  strategicly important and in america contains mini of the
• 1:14:32
  specters is there's some new world order imerging IA fear the
• 1:14:38
  that like be the case. That's hope the world order will
• 1:14:44
  be stabor Build on western Civilization on Nato and they
• 1:14:49
  you and in my closing you i would also richard like to asq
• 1:14:53
  you is there hope for the west and i you optimistic ahead of
• 1:14:57
  two thousand twenty six because it's no christmas as will and
• 1:15:02
  i'm have a optimistic closing statement from your side what we
• 1:15:06
  need to do in the West pro Western Forces in America and in
• 1:15:10
  Europe to the. And sure that our world order
• 1:15:14
  wins and that we will be united and all this internal reveleries
• 1:15:21
  into the gop will be one by diesen Mainstream conservatives
• 1:15:25
  will belief in the west and to will aside for nato and for
• 1:15:30
  Ukraine. Well, the good news is that i do
• 1:15:33
  believe that the Democrats are going to takeover Congress.
• 1:15:37
  In the coming here and they will best have power in twenty,
• 1:15:40
  twenty seven and the democrats or a differor party.
• 1:15:45
  I would'd forget things like voker gay or what have a the
• 1:15:49
  hell the conservative think they are i think the democrudic
• 1:15:53
  party. Simply because the right wing as
• 1:15:57
  gone in this warble direction, the democratic party has a an
• 1:16:02
  opportunity to be pro western to be pro nato and to be pro
• 1:16:07
  ukraine. If only because it's in up is
• 1:16:11
  this shit to the republicans and the conservative so i think that
• 1:16:14
  is very pareful, but i would live you on this and i'm going
• 1:16:17
  to call to return to the genre bret up scare so have to leave
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  but i. I'm all to code but my
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  wifexualies you's just kind of from burk and that.
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  And das waren hier it is night to she's making's.
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  In okay. It's angent European
• 1:16:35
  Civilization with your cherish in America and I'm the rich and
• 1:16:40
  i visue and the family a merry christmas.
• 1:16:42
  A happy new year health and success and for United strong
• 1:16:47
  West on world nato and the you thanks a lot for twenty the show
• 1:16:51
  and looking forward to stayin touch in two thousand twenty 6.
• 1:16:54
  Definally gleichfalls for You Günther, I was you all the Best
• 1:16:58
  and merry Christmas and I hope will be a what the speak you get
• 1:17:00
  in twenty twenty Sex. Thanks a lot looking for what or
• 1:17:03
  the best. Thank you.
• 1:17:05
  Thanks from Diana.