Latest / DA CREW Podcast / SC BOOKGAL AND FRIENDS 4-29-25
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- 1:11Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, May I have your attention please? The
- 1:20Speaker 1: show starts in seven eight seven, six, five four three
- 1:36Speaker 1: two one go.
- 2:07Speaker 2: Hey everyone, it's another Tuesday night, so you know, of
- 2:12Speaker 2: course I'm back here again. So let me introduce you
- 2:16Speaker 2: to me. My name is Patrice Grumble and I am
- 2:20Speaker 2: SC Book gal A four to three and welcome to
- 2:24Speaker 2: SC Book gall and friends Chat. So we are winding
- 2:29Speaker 2: down poetry months, you guys, and it has been nothing
- 2:35Speaker 2: less but awesome. Again I get to introduce you guys
- 2:43Speaker 2: from somebody from my neck of the woods. I have
- 2:49Speaker 2: to say, you guys, I'm working for the library for
- 2:53Speaker 2: twenty years. I have lived in Charleston and all my life.
- 2:59Speaker 2: But I did not know we had so much talent
- 3:05Speaker 2: here in Charleston. I'm not even gonna say Charlston in
- 3:09Speaker 2: South Carolina. Okay. So last week or the week before
- 3:14Speaker 2: I last I had the Geechee poet. Okay. He's from
- 3:18Speaker 2: right around the corner down the street. Now I am
- 3:21Speaker 2: bringing up author D. L. Mac junior. He's from around
- 3:27Speaker 2: the corner, down the street and through the woods. Okay.
- 3:30Speaker 2: But his work is beautiful, you guys. We were talking
- 3:34Speaker 2: earlier about his poetry work, and he even got a
- 3:38Speaker 2: show coming up, so y'all need to be ready to
- 3:40Speaker 2: go see him. Okay, but I would like to present
- 3:44Speaker 2: to you guys, author D. L. Mac Junior. Come on up,
- 3:49Speaker 2: Come on up.
- 3:51Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. Thank you for having me.
- 3:54Speaker 3: I really do appreciate it.
- 3:56Speaker 2: Thank you for being here. So before we go, any father,
- 4:02Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about yourself.
- 4:05Speaker 3: So I'm a poet and author, husband, father, thirty two
- 4:10Speaker 3: years old. I've been writing since two thousand and eight
- 4:15Speaker 3: and just loving every minute of it. I published three
- 4:19Speaker 3: books and continue to I'm going to continue to publish
- 4:23Speaker 3: every year.
- 4:25Speaker 2: Oh so you challenge yourself just to publish a book
- 4:27Speaker 2: every year. Yes, okay, I like that. I like that.
- 4:33Speaker 2: So you have three books, and we're going to put
- 4:36Speaker 2: up on the screen in a moment. Your latest book,
- 4:41Speaker 2: Yellow Flowers Are for the Living. Tell us a little
- 4:45Speaker 2: bit about this collection of poetry.
- 4:48Speaker 3: Okay. So this collection of poetry I started about actually
- 4:52Speaker 3: started February of last year. I was actually getting known
- 5:00Speaker 3: from my poet friends to write every day, and I
- 5:03Speaker 3: got a little board because I was like, Okay, I'm writing,
- 5:05Speaker 3: but I want something new to write about, something challenging.
- 5:07Speaker 3: So I got on TikTok and said, hey, does it
- 5:12Speaker 3: even have something that they can't express or you know,
- 5:14Speaker 3: get out that they want, you know, a situation they
- 5:17Speaker 3: want to touch on and put it in the poetry.
- 5:19Speaker 3: I'll do it for you. So people you know, suggested
- 5:22Speaker 3: things and I was like, Okay, I'm gonna call this
- 5:24Speaker 3: project for the people. And I was like, nah, that's
- 5:27Speaker 3: a little too on the nose. So I started writing
- 5:30Speaker 3: and writing and writing, and I realized a lot of
- 5:32Speaker 3: people were asking me to write about grief and loss
- 5:34Speaker 3: and like in like unrequited love and things like that.
- 5:38Speaker 3: So I was like, why didn't I call yellow flowers
- 5:41Speaker 3: are for the Living? To keep up with my theme
- 5:43Speaker 3: that I had with colors of my past books. So
- 5:47Speaker 3: and I was like, I thought about some flowers you give.
- 5:50Speaker 3: You give some flowers to people who are living. You
- 5:52Speaker 3: don't give some flowers at a funeral. So that's where
- 5:55Speaker 3: that came up. I.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Yes, you do have this beautiful themes that you have.
- 6:01Speaker 3: You have.
- 6:03Speaker 2: One of your books we talked about earlier before to
- 6:06Speaker 2: show you guys. It has the color theme of black
- 6:10Speaker 2: and then you have the one with purple. So yeah,
- 6:12Speaker 2: the Purple One is someone wanted the book review on
- 6:14Speaker 2: because I love I just love the synopsis of the
- 6:17Speaker 2: Purple One. What made Colors becomes so important to you?
- 6:26Speaker 3: Because I think colors were an easy way to embody
- 6:29Speaker 3: what I was talking about, Like Black deals with a lot,
- 6:33Speaker 3: Like when you think of black, you think of pain
- 6:34Speaker 3: and sorrow. So my first book touches on like this,
- 6:39Speaker 3: you know, the sorrow that I may have faced in
- 6:41Speaker 3: a relationship, the sorrow that you know we see in
- 6:44Speaker 3: the Black community, and the challenges we face. Because I
- 6:46Speaker 3: wrote that in the time of a lot of civil unrest,
- 6:49Speaker 3: you know, with a lot of the Black Lives Matter
- 6:52Speaker 3: movement things like that, So it just embodied all those things.
- 6:55Speaker 3: And then you know, talking about the last subject I
- 6:59Speaker 3: talked about is your relationship with God and how you
- 7:02Speaker 3: know sometimes that can be hard where you lose you
- 7:04Speaker 3: lose your faith, or you may not pray like you should,
- 7:06Speaker 3: or you just you just want to give up on life.
- 7:10Speaker 3: So I touched on that there and then Paint and
- 7:12Speaker 3: Purple was actually birthed from a situation that I was
- 7:16Speaker 3: dealing with about about two years ago. And what I
- 7:22Speaker 3: did was I wrote about that situation explaining, you know
- 7:25Speaker 3: how like men can be good guys but then get
- 7:28Speaker 3: scarred and then hurt, you know, hurt the ones that
- 7:31Speaker 3: they love, and if they're not careful, they can lose
- 7:33Speaker 3: out on that, on the very person that they really
- 7:36Speaker 3: want to be with. And through those scars, when you
- 7:40Speaker 3: understand who you are and how much love that you
- 7:43Speaker 3: have to give and that you can love properly, you're
- 7:47Speaker 3: painted purple, the color or royalty because you understand your worth.
- 7:52Speaker 2: Oh oh, did you just drop that one? And then
- 7:55Speaker 2: like that, you just drop them? He's like, I'm just
- 8:00Speaker 2: dropped his knucker right here, y'all pick that up? Okay,
- 8:04Speaker 2: Like I did not see that that little wow.
- 8:09Speaker 3: And see, all my covers are shot or you know,
- 8:12Speaker 3: created by me. So I literally took for for the
- 8:17Speaker 3: cover of Paint and purple. Can't tell because it's so subtle,
- 8:20Speaker 3: but I took like a piece of tile and painted
- 8:23Speaker 3: and painted like flatters of paint and then took a
- 8:27Speaker 3: picture of it. And that's the cover of the book,
- 8:29Speaker 3: the front, end, the back.
- 8:31Speaker 2: So I see, yeah, it's creative. Like how important are
- 8:41Speaker 2: your book covers too? Your poetry?
- 8:47Speaker 3: Very? I mean, it's it's usually the last thing that
- 8:49Speaker 3: that I do, but it's very important because it covers
- 8:53Speaker 3: the first thing that people see, so especially like with
- 8:57Speaker 3: black high culture attending you like that that photo is
- 9:00Speaker 3: powerful and it's like and I always try to use people,
- 9:05Speaker 3: people around me to do my covers if possible, or
- 9:10Speaker 3: you know, just you know, I always try to use
- 9:12Speaker 3: use my village to kind of come up with with
- 9:15Speaker 3: topics or ideas sometimes and it really does help.
- 9:20Speaker 2: So that brings me to another question, your village.
- 9:27Speaker 3: So how so my village is very very small. It's
- 9:33Speaker 3: like a couple of people at Like I made a
- 9:36Speaker 3: friend on TikTok about a couple of months ago. She's
- 9:40Speaker 3: a part of my village now. She's also a singer,
- 9:44Speaker 3: so I try to encourage other artists to be the best,
- 9:48Speaker 3: their best selves, so she's become a part of my village.
- 9:52Speaker 3: My wife and then my best friend or people I
- 9:55Speaker 3: go to, like, hey, when you think about this cover,
- 9:58Speaker 3: what do you think about this? Do you like? If
- 10:00Speaker 3: all of them like it, but I hate it, we
- 10:02Speaker 3: go with that because everybody else loved it, so obviously
- 10:07Speaker 3: the masters are going to love it, or you know,
- 10:08Speaker 3: people that see it are gonna love it.
- 10:12Speaker 2: I love that the fact that you use your village,
- 10:14Speaker 2: and I try to tell people, you know, if you
- 10:17Speaker 2: don't have to have a huge village, like your village
- 10:20Speaker 2: can be very simple, very small, but yet be so
- 10:25Speaker 2: powerful at the same time.
- 10:29Speaker 3: That is so true because I mean, it's good to
- 10:33Speaker 3: have one because a lot a lot of times as artists,
- 10:37Speaker 3: we don't get the support we need, and it brings
- 10:41Speaker 3: people wonder why, Like my coworkers were, I was telling
- 10:45Speaker 3: them about my show, and I didn't tell my whole
- 10:48Speaker 3: like everybody I work with about my show. Why you
- 10:50Speaker 3: can't tell so and so? I said, because I said
- 10:53Speaker 3: once I once I tell you about it, and you
- 10:55Speaker 3: only show a little bit of interest, or you say like, hey,
- 10:58Speaker 3: I'm coming and don't show up. Not gonna do it again.
- 11:00Speaker 3: It's not it's not to be mean, but to protect
- 11:03Speaker 3: my mental health, you know, because I'm looking for you
- 11:06Speaker 3: to show up for me. If you say you're going
- 11:07Speaker 3: to show up, you know, integrity is very important.
- 11:12Speaker 2: I never thought of it that way. I never thought
- 11:16Speaker 2: of it that way. That that that speaks volumes, that
- 11:20Speaker 2: speaks volumes. So what made you want to step in
- 11:26Speaker 2: the world of poetry?
- 11:30Speaker 3: It all started like, uh, from a breakup because you know,
- 11:35Speaker 3: they teach you poetry in school, but that's usually like
- 11:37Speaker 3: for like a lesson or two and then they move on.
- 11:40Speaker 3: So I learned about poetry and in like elementary school
- 11:45Speaker 3: and middle school, but it wasn't a thing for me.
- 11:48Speaker 3: And then one day a girl broke my heart and
- 11:52Speaker 3: I just started writing. And I realized when I stopped writing,
- 11:55Speaker 3: I'm like, this is a poem. And I would just
- 11:58Speaker 3: write for whenever or like I felt felt some type
- 12:02Speaker 3: of way or whatever. And then it wasn't until people
- 12:06Speaker 3: start noticing that I write poetry, and then I would
- 12:08Speaker 3: read poetry for them and they'd be like, oh wow,
- 12:10Speaker 3: I felt that, or I never read poetry before, but
- 12:13Speaker 3: I like your poetry, and it's like it let me
- 12:16Speaker 3: know that I can use this to help other people,
- 12:19Speaker 3: to use my problems in my pain, to let people
- 12:23Speaker 3: know that they're not alone, that they feel valuable, which
- 12:26Speaker 3: which ties back again to my latest book, Yellow Flowers
- 12:29Speaker 3: and for the Living, giving people their flowers and letting
- 12:32Speaker 3: them know, hey, I know you went through that, but
- 12:34Speaker 3: you made it. Here's your flowers.
- 12:38Speaker 2: Now that's beautiful. That's beautiful. How would you want your
- 12:44Speaker 2: your poetry to be received. I understand that you want
- 12:51Speaker 2: to give them their flowers, but there'sn't any other reason
- 12:55Speaker 2: why you want poetry to be words.
- 13:02Speaker 3: Because I see so many mediums that that we as
- 13:06Speaker 3: African Americans, we run everything. We run everything in entertainment.
- 13:10Speaker 3: We used to run poetry too, but we're in a
- 13:13Speaker 3: place now where people that look like us are running
- 13:16Speaker 3: people who don't look like us are running poetry. And
- 13:18Speaker 3: it never was like that, and I want to reclaim
- 13:20Speaker 3: it back. And also I want people to start feeling
- 13:24Speaker 3: stuff again. And there's so much microwavable poetry now that
- 13:30Speaker 3: it's it's sad, like as a purist that really loves
- 13:35Speaker 3: the art form, really loves wordplay and really making people
- 13:38Speaker 3: feel something and changing the atmosphere and a room just
- 13:41Speaker 3: off your words alone, you can't that that feeling is unmatched.
- 13:48Speaker 2: So microwaveable poetry, what is that you really got me with?
- 13:53Speaker 4: Thattry like like the very surface level, the very surface
- 14:02Speaker 4: level type of poetry like that that that sounds a
- 14:04Speaker 4: lot more like a diary.
- 14:05Speaker 3: Entry than actual poetry yourself. That's just that's just my
- 14:09Speaker 3: nick pick as a poet, I personally don't like that
- 14:12Speaker 3: type of poetry, which I understand short bite sized poems
- 14:16Speaker 3: are what gave people get people through the door, because
- 14:20Speaker 3: I did like a series that was made popular, which
- 14:24Speaker 3: is in English we say and then then I then
- 14:27Speaker 3: I do like a version of what I said in poetry,
- 14:31Speaker 3: and that that's really what got me to go viral
- 14:33Speaker 3: for the first time. So I understand the utility of
- 14:37Speaker 3: it because it gets people in the door. But at
- 14:39Speaker 3: the end of the day, I really want to write,
- 14:42Speaker 3: you know, work that makes you feel something makes you like,
- 14:45Speaker 3: oh wow, I can relate to this. He went through
- 14:48Speaker 3: it and he you know, he's smiling every day, so
- 14:51Speaker 3: obviously I can go. I can. I can get through
- 14:53Speaker 3: this as well, you.
- 14:54Speaker 2: Know, Okay, I love that. And thinking back in when
- 15:01Speaker 2: she said that you would open your doors, the TikTok
- 15:07Speaker 2: doors for the like that two the audience and let
- 15:12Speaker 2: them give you topics, were there any topics that was
- 15:16Speaker 2: just like, oh my god, how am I gonna approach this?
- 15:21Speaker 3: Yes? I think the only one that had like that
- 15:25Speaker 3: had me like, oh my god, I'm gonna proat this,
- 15:27Speaker 3: which I still wrote it pretty fast was someone asked
- 15:31Speaker 3: me about trees, like, uh, write a poem about trees?
- 15:34Speaker 3: And then not writing a poem about how uh trees
- 15:38Speaker 3: reminded me. I was, I was coming coming home, you know,
- 15:41Speaker 3: to the south, because I wouldee all the trees. And
- 15:44Speaker 3: then it reminded me of you know, being under the
- 15:46Speaker 3: shade of a tree, drinking hug juices and diet coke.
- 15:49Speaker 3: You know, Tell tell Grandma told us to come inside
- 15:53Speaker 3: for dinner. You know, so like things like that. But yeah,
- 16:00Speaker 3: I had a couple of them that stumped me for
- 16:01Speaker 3: a little bit, but I usually got them done within
- 16:03Speaker 3: either at the the longest time it took me was
- 16:07Speaker 3: about maybe a couple, like a couple of hours. I
- 16:11Speaker 3: used to write some of these pieces in like all
- 16:13Speaker 3: of five to ten minutes or so.
- 16:17Speaker 2: So, what is the craziest request that you received?
- 16:21Speaker 1: Someone?
- 16:22Speaker 3: I don't know if it was actually request, but someone
- 16:24Speaker 3: put in my comments it was like they uh, they
- 16:27Speaker 3: put what was what was it? It was something like
- 16:36Speaker 3: being wrapped in an orange blanket while while sitting under
- 16:39Speaker 3: an orange moon. And it was another line that had
- 16:42Speaker 3: to do with orange. And I was able to write
- 16:45Speaker 3: a boem about that as well. And that's that's in
- 16:49Speaker 3: Yellow Flowers for the Living.
- 16:50Speaker 2: So okay, Oh so some of the ones that you
- 16:54Speaker 2: actually did on TikTok.
- 16:56Speaker 3: Yes, actually yeah, they made it into the book. Into
- 17:00Speaker 3: the book.
- 17:03Speaker 2: Now, that is awesome.
- 17:04Speaker 3: Yeah. So basically most of the poems, if not all,
- 17:11Speaker 3: were suggestions. I think maybe one or two poems that
- 17:15Speaker 3: he came from me and something I wanted to put
- 17:18Speaker 3: in the book, but everything else was somebody else's suggestion.
- 17:24Speaker 2: That is awesome. So are you self published or are
- 17:31Speaker 2: you under a publishing house?
- 17:33Speaker 3: I am self published. I have complete control, can do
- 17:36Speaker 3: whatever I want to do, release when I want to release.
- 17:38Speaker 3: Because the crazy thing was, I don't know if you noticed,
- 17:43Speaker 3: but my book Yellow Flowers for a Living was supposed
- 17:47Speaker 3: to come out on May sixteenth, but because of the
- 17:50Speaker 3: crazy stuff going on with TikTok and I was having
- 17:52Speaker 3: someone successful selling books on TikTok, I pushed it forward
- 17:56Speaker 3: and said, hey, I'm going to release it today because
- 17:59Speaker 3: why not. You know, and most people that are finding
- 18:04Speaker 3: me are strangers. So it's not like I'm not really
- 18:06Speaker 3: selling anything to family and friends, because like I said,
- 18:09Speaker 3: family and friends don't really support you like that. They
- 18:11Speaker 3: just see it. They know I do poetry cool, some
- 18:15Speaker 3: might buy, some might not, So I'm not really worried
- 18:17Speaker 3: about that, and then being a self published author, I
- 18:20Speaker 3: can release a book whenever I want to. I got
- 18:23Speaker 3: worried about, Oh, you know there's certain thing with scheduled
- 18:27Speaker 3: this day. I can move the date around. I can
- 18:30Speaker 3: move it forward. I just don't tell people dates before
- 18:33Speaker 3: I'm finished, you know.
- 18:34Speaker 2: But yeah, so being a self published author gives you
- 18:39Speaker 2: that freedom to make it work for you. Yes, and
- 18:45Speaker 2: that's cool. I do see a lot of people go
- 18:47Speaker 2: to self publishing rules. Do you feel that it's as difficult.
- 18:53Speaker 3: Or it is promote promoting? Well, I would just say
- 18:58Speaker 3: promoting and then like the the editing process is difficult.
- 19:03Speaker 3: You know, that's something you need a team for. That's
- 19:07Speaker 3: something that I'm currently with some of my books looking
- 19:12Speaker 3: back at to see where I can fix it that
- 19:15Speaker 3: there are out and maybe put another edition out of
- 19:17Speaker 3: that book. But yeah, that's probably the most difficult part,
- 19:21Speaker 3: is like the editing and like the the formatting. But
- 19:25Speaker 3: mainly once the book is done, it's mainly just promoting
- 19:29Speaker 3: yourself because I don't like I don't like to promote myself.
- 19:31Speaker 3: But that's something I had to learn to do and
- 19:35Speaker 3: just and what I've learned, what I learned and through
- 19:39Speaker 3: these TikTok shop videos is just being authentic, Like even
- 19:42Speaker 3: if even if I have self doubt in my promotion,
- 19:46Speaker 3: like I'll put self doubt in my promotion and that's
- 19:49Speaker 3: what helps. Like if I if I were to blow up,
- 19:53Speaker 3: you know, I'll sign this book. So if I blow
- 19:55Speaker 3: up and people will tell me, no, don't say that
- 19:57Speaker 3: about yourself. Your art, your art's worth it. But it helps.
- 20:02Speaker 2: I understand. I understand. So what would you say to
- 20:07Speaker 2: someone who is thinking about self publishing but it's like,
- 20:15Speaker 2: m how would you win them over to the world
- 20:19Speaker 2: of self publishing? What would you say to that author?
- 20:22Speaker 3: I would say, if if you if you're serious about
- 20:25Speaker 3: this poetry thing and you don't know where to start,
- 20:28Speaker 3: and you you know you have a body of work
- 20:31Speaker 3: that you want to get out there, put it out.
- 20:35Speaker 3: And the great thing about about publishing in general is
- 20:39Speaker 3: that book can sit, can sit without without knowing knowing
- 20:43Speaker 3: about it for years. But as soon as you tell
- 20:45Speaker 3: somebody that's brand new to someone else. So and also
- 20:51Speaker 3: your message is important, So put it out. And that's
- 20:56Speaker 3: the quickest way to do it. You ain't got to
- 20:57Speaker 3: worry about jumping to hoops trying to find a publishing
- 20:59Speaker 3: company because from what I heard, publishing companies only take
- 21:04Speaker 3: like one or two poetry a year.
- 21:06Speaker 2: You know, yes, they surely do. Poetry is not as
- 21:12Speaker 2: extensive as it used to be. I can't even tell
- 21:15Speaker 2: you about working. I might see about maybe one or
- 21:21Speaker 2: two books three or four and a year that is
- 21:26Speaker 2: solely poetry, not poetry in fiction, or poetry and nonfiction.
- 21:32Speaker 2: Like solely poetry, you don't see much because it's really
- 21:36Speaker 2: become the underdog of the literary world. Okay, Yeah, And
- 21:42Speaker 2: I really do thank you for saying that you can
- 21:47Speaker 2: put a book down and pick it back up years later,
- 21:50Speaker 2: and it's always a new book. I always tell everyone
- 21:54Speaker 2: there's no such thing as an old book because not
- 21:57Speaker 2: everyone has read every book, so it's going to be
- 22:01Speaker 2: a new book to somebody. So I love the fact
- 22:05Speaker 2: that you said that. That makes so much sense. So
- 22:11Speaker 2: remember I told you when we were talking before the
- 22:15Speaker 2: podcast that I have this special section that's called the
- 22:19Speaker 2: fun Questions. Alrighty, so here's the fun questions. Y'all know me.
- 22:26Speaker 2: Y'all know I love music, okay, and I love a
- 22:29Speaker 2: good TV show. So I just saw nine one one
- 22:34Speaker 2: last week. Y'all, and I cried.
- 22:37Speaker 3: I cried.
- 22:39Speaker 2: So I would like to ask you, if you can
- 22:43Speaker 2: choose to write a medical point, what TV medical team
- 22:53Speaker 2: would read your poetry out loud? So we have nine
- 23:00Speaker 2: to one one, we have probably probably.
- 23:05Speaker 3: I'm not a big medical john person. My wife watches
- 23:08Speaker 3: them religiously, so I would have to say the Gray's
- 23:11Speaker 3: Anatomy team, because I know the best.
- 23:18Speaker 2: Tell your wife we and her need to talk. I
- 23:21Speaker 2: gotta get a hook on the nine one once we
- 23:23Speaker 2: can cry togethers Anatomy.
- 23:27Speaker 3: Because because that's her, that's the show that she binges
- 23:31Speaker 3: like heavy, like she can watch like when a new season,
- 23:35Speaker 3: if a new season with a drop, she'll go watch
- 23:37Speaker 3: all the seasons until, you know, until she gets up
- 23:40Speaker 3: to the point of where the new season starts. So
- 23:43Speaker 3: that's the one I just know like that, I really
- 23:45Speaker 3: am not a big medical drama person. So yeah, and
- 23:51Speaker 3: it does you know, like you know, like someone else
- 23:54Speaker 3: watching the show that you're not interested in it, you
- 23:56Speaker 3: get interested in it after a while, so it's like, oh,
- 24:00Speaker 3: this is kind of interesting.
- 24:02Speaker 2: Okay, that's something. So she loves Greg's Anatomy, so she
- 24:07Speaker 2: will go back and look at the previous season.
- 24:11Speaker 3: She'll go back and watch all the previous seasons up
- 24:14Speaker 3: until the new one. So she being here for days watching.
- 24:18Speaker 2: Oh my god.
- 24:18Speaker 3: They're like yeah, they're.
- 24:22Speaker 2: Seasons.
- 24:23Speaker 3: Yeah, and she does it all dead all night.
- 24:29Speaker 2: I got as far as the little doctor dude that
- 24:34Speaker 2: got killed in the car accident, who went on after that?
- 24:40Speaker 2: It was just a little bit too much Jesus. So
- 24:43Speaker 2: here's another question. What is your favorite genre of music
- 24:49Speaker 2: hip hop? You got a hip hop artist that is
- 24:52Speaker 2: willing to read your poetry, who would it be and why?
- 24:59Speaker 3: Hm hmm. I would say wallet Ooh. I heard like, yeah,
- 25:09Speaker 3: wallet he because he was he was big in like
- 25:14Speaker 3: the early twenty tens. He kind of like kind of
- 25:18Speaker 3: phased out of the mainstream, but he would actually do
- 25:22Speaker 3: some poems in the beginning of his songs.
- 25:26Speaker 2: Okay, so he was.
- 25:28Speaker 3: He was always like a big influence for me, just
- 25:31Speaker 3: you know, seeing a rapper do that, and you know
- 25:33Speaker 3: I love hip hop and I love wordplace, so it
- 25:36Speaker 3: was like that was like a match made in heaven
- 25:39Speaker 3: when it came to his music.
- 25:42Speaker 2: So I'm about to put you on the spot. See,
- 25:45Speaker 2: you shouldn't have tell me that you go straight off
- 25:47Speaker 2: the head. I didn't even say anything. I don't even
- 25:55Speaker 2: think you know. My eyes got big, like ah, you
- 25:57Speaker 2: go off the top of the head. So, oh, what
- 26:01Speaker 2: can you give us tonight before we close out?
- 26:03Speaker 3: Okay, give me give me two words. Give me a
- 26:07Speaker 3: color and an object.
- 26:10Speaker 2: My favorite color is brown, and the object would be
- 26:18Speaker 2: hair scars.
- 26:20Speaker 3: Hair scars. So let's see. I ain't did this in
- 26:26Speaker 3: a while, so bear with me, hopefully on the choke.
- 26:29Speaker 3: Let's see. So brown hair scars. When I see you,
- 26:39Speaker 3: the first thing I noticed is your hair and how
- 26:41Speaker 3: it was wrapped like a crown. You wear it proud
- 26:45Speaker 3: and you don't let nobody else tear you down because
- 26:48Speaker 3: what you have is beautiful, the things that it can do,
- 26:52Speaker 3: It can contort and shape and ways that you can
- 26:55Speaker 3: never imagine. You have the hair that people dream of,
- 27:00Speaker 3: so natural, the beautiful esthetic, that brown mahogany that you
- 27:04Speaker 3: just can't be denied. And I wonder if you could
- 27:08Speaker 3: redefine the meaning of beauty with your lifestyle and the
- 27:12Speaker 3: way that you live, because you're a queen that can
- 27:16Speaker 3: only be as beautiful as the crown placed on her head.
- 27:22Speaker 3: And I wonder how profound that would be if people
- 27:26Speaker 3: realize that nappy is actually beautiful, whether it's braids or
- 27:32Speaker 3: some other protective style. And wow, I'm blown away because
- 27:37Speaker 3: your beauty is more than natural. It's everything. It's eternal.
- 27:43Speaker 3: It's the stuff that you write about in journals, believing
- 27:48Speaker 3: that you're beautiful. And it's because of that crown that
- 27:52Speaker 3: you placed on your head as you tie your scarf
- 27:56Speaker 3: at night and take a rest.
- 28:02Speaker 2: Okay, okay, y'all, y'all saw that straight off the dome.
- 28:06Speaker 2: You that's that's South Carolina brand. Y'all, y'all, only we
- 28:12Speaker 2: can do that down here in the South Carolina, and
- 28:14Speaker 2: the South can like it. Awesome.
- 28:17Speaker 3: I love it, and you.
- 28:21Speaker 2: Know, I really do love it. Because I am doing
- 28:23Speaker 2: a transitioning with my hair. I have to let it
- 28:26Speaker 2: grow out, you guys, to get my locks. I had
- 28:30Speaker 2: locks started, but it wasn't too ready, so I have
- 28:32Speaker 2: to grow my hair. So y'all see me with a
- 28:34Speaker 2: lot of head scars. So tell us what adventures you
- 28:39Speaker 2: have coming up so we can follow you on social media,
- 28:43Speaker 2: maybe come out to one of your shows. Tell us
- 28:45Speaker 2: what you got going up.
- 28:46Speaker 3: Okay, So, as you guys know already, I have my
- 28:51Speaker 3: book that was just released on April ninth. Yell, if
- 28:53Speaker 3: I was up for the living, that's on Amazon. I
- 28:57Speaker 3: am on social media Mac Jr. You can google it
- 29:02Speaker 3: or you can. You can follow me on Facebook and
- 29:06Speaker 3: YouTube at d L mac Junior and also on TikTok
- 29:12Speaker 3: as Double Bag Poetry. I also sell my books on there.
- 29:16Speaker 3: I do sign copies as well. And yeah, I do
- 29:20Speaker 3: have a show coming up called The Light Show with
- 29:22Speaker 3: mister Enlightenment and friends. That's on May sixteenth at seven
- 29:28Speaker 3: to nine pm. So if you ain't got nothing to do,
- 29:32Speaker 3: come and check us out.
- 29:35Speaker 2: So of course y'all know we're gonna have all that information.
- 29:38Speaker 2: If you look at the bottom of your screen, you'll
- 29:40Speaker 2: see all of the information scrolling and I'll be sharing
- 29:44Speaker 2: all the May sixteen, give you guys information that's in
- 29:49Speaker 2: mont Pleasant, South Carolina. Correct. Yes, So we're going to
- 29:53Speaker 2: cross the water. We're going to cross that little scary bridge, y'all.
- 29:58Speaker 2: I do not like that off Rep Bach bring me back, Ricky, Ricky,
- 30:03Speaker 2: whereas I know, trust this bridge right hand, and they
- 30:07Speaker 2: did it too quickly for me. But mister Mac, I
- 30:12Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on the show tonight.
- 30:14Speaker 3: Man. You just don't know. It was fun it was fun.
- 30:17Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 30:18Speaker 2: How much nuggets of knowledge did you have dropped? I
- 30:22Speaker 2: will be sharing the replay you guys in case you
- 30:26Speaker 2: miss anything. And y'all want to hear that spot that
- 30:29Speaker 2: the poetry about the brown scarf. Y'all know y'all need
- 30:33Speaker 2: to go ahead and do it. But again, we thank
- 30:36Speaker 2: you for being with us tonight, you guys, another Tuesday night.
- 30:42Speaker 2: I'm not a new book, another new author. Y'all go
- 30:45Speaker 2: grab Yellow Flowers Are for the Living. It is out now.
- 30:50Speaker 2: Amazon has it. I will put the link on my
- 30:53Speaker 2: Facebook page in about ten minutes. Okay, you guys, I
- 30:57Speaker 2: will catch you next week. Next month, we're dedicating to
- 31:01Speaker 2: the mother's ladies. We're bringing it back because in the
- 31:04Speaker 2: honor of Mother's Day, we're going to bring it to
- 31:06Speaker 2: the moms, okay, or moms and training aunties, just women
- 31:12Speaker 2: in general. But I always remember, no book is an
- 31:16Speaker 2: old book because not everyone is read every book. You guys,
- 31:20Speaker 2: have a great night. Bye.
- 31:26Speaker 3: I have a good one too.