Latest / The Harmony Channel / A Haunted House Wakes Up, Part 2
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- 0:20[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Harmony Channel, a podcast on creating harmony from the inside out.
- 0:26[SPEAKER_00]: I'm your host, C. Rose.
- 0:28[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much for being here for part two of a haunted house wakes up.
- 0:33[SPEAKER_00]: Where I take you on the journey of how I strengthened the vessel of my body.
- 0:38[SPEAKER_00]: For the work of clearing my inner ghosts, my heart compass was instrumental.
- 0:43[SPEAKER_00]: As well as my children who, of course, are so connected to my heart, it's not surprising they would also be connected to my healing.
- 0:52[SPEAKER_00]: Looking back, I can see how many times I made use of listening to my heart.
- 0:57[SPEAKER_00]: It was buried under a pile of debris, but it still beat, still pumped with guidance, direction, and unconditional love.
- 1:06[SPEAKER_00]: The treasured compass of my heart, I have come to understand, is one of my greatest allies in navigating life.
- 1:15[SPEAKER_00]: Each time I moved, each time I started a new career path, each time in decision blocked my way, my heart compass activated.
- 1:24[SPEAKER_00]: In part one, I shared about coming to a place of uncertainty around my marriage.
- 1:28[SPEAKER_00]: When I chose to step closer to my relationship with my husband, rather than further away, my heart led the way.
- 1:36[SPEAKER_00]: My heart also knew that for our marriage to fully repair, we needed a fresh start.
- 1:42[SPEAKER_00]: And so, according to my trusty compass, this required finding a new home.
- 1:47[SPEAKER_00]: At the time, I didn't understand that my heart compass was a powerful tool operating within me.
- 1:53[SPEAKER_00]: I simply called it trusting my gut, which was guiding us toward relocating to a seaside town 25 minutes north of Portland, Maine.
- 2:02[SPEAKER_00]: Now, almost a decade later, I have an inkling of understanding that my heart compass was listening and drawing me toward the land itself.
- 2:12[SPEAKER_00]: By the summer of 2016, we moved into a new house, which was actually very old circa 1790.
- 2:19[SPEAKER_00]: The property had a newly constructed oversized garage, allowing us to create an in-laws suite for my mom and a studio for me so I could work from home.
- 2:30[SPEAKER_00]: The house came with two and a half acres of wooded land, and our neighboring ocean was only half a mile away.
- 2:37[SPEAKER_00]: In many ways, it felt like a dream come true.
- 2:41[SPEAKER_00]: I never imagined stewarding land so close to the sea, in a town surrounded by fields and farms, so close to the small city of Portland, I felt like life couldn't get much better than this, and not only that, it seemed downright impossible.
- 2:59[SPEAKER_00]: As we moved into this house, my career took off with the release of a craft magazine and the success of my online knit pattern books.
- 3:07[SPEAKER_00]: I felt incredibly blessed to have received support from the knitting community and was grateful for every single knitter who purchased a pattern download, a book, or a subscription to the magazine.
- 3:19[SPEAKER_00]: I was thankful to the shops that carried the magazine and the sponsors who placed ads with us.
- 3:29[SPEAKER_00]: But along with the positive aspects growth can bring, my buried inner wounds started whispering in my ear, causing stress, confusion, and anxiety.
- 3:40[SPEAKER_00]: My insecurities flared, and the dark rooms of my life house rattled me.
- 3:46[SPEAKER_00]: I became riddled with social anxiety, simple social interactions began to sap all my energy and wipe me out.
- 3:54[SPEAKER_00]: I was better one-on-one, but I wasn't centered so I couldn't truly listen, which led me to say awkward or insensitive comments that didn't feel like they were coming from the true me, whoever that was.
- 4:07[SPEAKER_00]: So later I picked apart and over-analyzed what I'd said, and to mean myself for having said them.
- 4:13[SPEAKER_00]: The feeling that I wasn't good enough gradually became louder.
- 4:17[SPEAKER_00]: My skin was constantly breaking out on my chin.
- 4:21[SPEAKER_00]: My night drinking was at an all-time high, further flushing and reclaiming my complexion.
- 4:26[SPEAKER_00]: I became anxious and suffered from insomnia.
- 4:30[SPEAKER_00]: Debilitating stomach aches would leave me bedred in until they passed.
- 4:34[SPEAKER_00]: A new shadow began to take over, and my work no longer lifted me up.
- 4:39[SPEAKER_00]: Regardless, I continued to work hard, as I felt I had no choice.
- 4:45[SPEAKER_00]: I was fortunate, I had been able to create my own work box to fit into.
- 4:50[SPEAKER_00]: But now I felt locked inside it.
- 4:53[SPEAKER_00]: There were constant deadlines to meet that felt overwhelming.
- 4:57[SPEAKER_00]: Part of me felt trapped.
- 4:58[SPEAKER_00]: Yet another part felt grateful to even have this box at all, so I told myself to quit the internal complaining.
- 5:06[SPEAKER_00]: My health continued to suffer as I lived with an overall intense feeling of dread.
- 5:11[SPEAKER_00]: I woke up and enjoyed my busy mornings getting the girls ready for school, but the daylight hours felt lackluster.
- 5:19[SPEAKER_00]: My weekends, which were so filled with multiple plans and projects, often felt this appointingly unproductive.
- 5:26[SPEAKER_00]: The feeling grew that I didn't have enough time to accomplish anything.
- 5:31[SPEAKER_00]: I was slipping into a deep life depression and could not get my bearings.
- 5:36[SPEAKER_00]: My lower back went out occasionally, leaving me unable to walk easily or move freely.
- 5:41[SPEAKER_00]: This way of life became my new normal.
- 5:46[SPEAKER_00]: Huge shifts in my health came in the winter of 2018.
- 5:49[SPEAKER_00]: The first to take shape happened in early December.
- 5:54[SPEAKER_00]: When a ray of light came disguised as a health challenge, but it wasn't mine as you might have imagined.
- 6:01[SPEAKER_00]: It was an issue one of my daughters was dealing with.
- 6:04[SPEAKER_00]: My four-year-old started breaking out in what I considered an extreme case of Exima.
- 6:09[SPEAKER_00]: an intense itchy rash spread across her torso and parts of her arms and legs.
- 6:15[SPEAKER_00]: It took several months to pinpoint the trigger of the inflammation, but after much experimentation with her diet, I finally found the remedy.
- 6:23[SPEAKER_00]: When she ate a diet free of eggs, dairy and wheat, her rash cleared up completely.
- 6:30[SPEAKER_00]: Thinking this would be a short-term dietary change, as her skin was in the process of healing, I joined her so she wouldn't feel alone in this medicinal approach to meals.
- 6:40[SPEAKER_00]: With the looming question, what can we eat now?
- 6:43[SPEAKER_00]: I checked out all the vegan and plant-based cookbooks from the library for ideas, since this was the diet that best matched our new parameters.
- 6:51[SPEAKER_00]: In reading these cookbooks, I learned what it meant to be a plant-only eater, and eventually decided to give up eating meat as well.
- 6:59[SPEAKER_00]: Many who knew my love of chicken and cheese enchiladas could not believe my decision, but it felt so right, and my body felt so light with the shift in a way I didn't even know was possible.
- 7:12[SPEAKER_00]: So it really wasn't difficult once I experimented with the new recipes that I came to love just as much, if not more.
- 7:19[SPEAKER_00]: Eating only plants made a lot of positive ripples in my life.
- 7:23[SPEAKER_00]: For one, as an animal lover, I feel good about not bringing more death to this planet.
- 7:29[SPEAKER_00]: Secondly, as a daughter watching her mother face cognitive decline, I felt that going this route was an excellent choice for my brain health.
- 7:37[SPEAKER_00]: And lastly, as a human who loves this planet, going meatless felt like an actionable way for me to fight against climate change on a daily basis.
- 7:46[SPEAKER_00]: I continue to navigate what feels healthy for my body and know that what works for me is not necessarily what works for everyone else.
- 7:55[SPEAKER_00]: but one of my biggest surprises in eating this way was the feeling of liberation.
- 8:00[SPEAKER_00]: I felt free and released from feeling so poorly for so long.
- 8:06[SPEAKER_00]: This way of eating didn't completely resolve all my health was, but I definitely felt a shift that was much needed.
- 8:14[SPEAKER_00]: This liberation didn't mean it was always smooth sailing.
- 8:17[SPEAKER_00]: The diet itself wasn't difficult.
- 8:20[SPEAKER_00]: It was the social aspect of eating differently
- 8:25[SPEAKER_00]: Eating a fringe diet outside the box society has created requires a little more planning and maneuvering, but it felt right from the start.
- 8:34[SPEAKER_00]: I will be eternally grateful to the soul of my daughter who opened the door to this major life transformation.
- 8:41[SPEAKER_00]: I suspect she allowed the skin of her body to become a mirror of the interior inflammation that was unknowingly haunting me.
- 8:49[SPEAKER_00]: Her soul knew a path lay ahead for me and she was the catalyst that sparked those first steps to nourishing my inner landscape.
- 8:58[SPEAKER_00]: Over the years, my youngest has been able to reintroduce dairy, eggs, and gluten as her skin sensitivity has changed with age.
- 9:07[SPEAKER_00]: And her decision to become a vegetarian has helped soften my rigidity around the way I eat.
- 9:13[SPEAKER_00]: If I had to quantify, I'd say I now eat around 98% plants, including some gluten.
- 9:19[SPEAKER_00]: If I'm traveling and options are limited, or my vegetarian daughters want to share bites of food they're excited about.
- 9:26[SPEAKER_00]: usually some kind of dessert.
- 9:29[SPEAKER_00]: I will occasionally eat a little dairy or eggs.
- 9:32[SPEAKER_00]: But most of the time, I'm plant powered and thrilled to be so.
- 9:36[SPEAKER_00]: Around the same time I became fueled by plants, I faced my addiction to alcohol, another inner ghost that had been lurking in the shadows of my lifehouse.
- 9:46[SPEAKER_00]: I was tired of feeling so much shame around my alcohol consumption, I was tired of the way it made me feel like my insides were rotting out.
- 9:55[SPEAKER_00]: I was tired of being so dependent on something that wasn't good for me, and I was curious what life would be like sober.
- 10:02[SPEAKER_00]: I had abstained from drinking while pregnant and nursing, and now was the time to fully come clean.
- 10:08[SPEAKER_00]: I had a deep, strong inherent desire to be a good role model for my girls.
- 10:12[SPEAKER_00]: and it was this rock foundation of love for them that held me during this time of intense habit changing.
- 10:19[SPEAKER_00]: On December 31, 2018, I made a vow not to drink alcohol for one entire year.
- 10:27[SPEAKER_00]: I made this vow, and I stuck to it.
- 10:30[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the thing.
- 10:31[SPEAKER_00]: I never used the word alcoholic to describe myself.
- 10:35[SPEAKER_00]: not ever.
- 10:36[SPEAKER_00]: I always said it was a terrible, no good habit, so perhaps this helped me in some small way to stick to my pact.
- 10:44[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but from my perspective at the time, I was simply changing my habits.
- 10:49[SPEAKER_00]: Even though the act of changing one's habits can be far from simple and far from easy.
- 10:54[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, I was an alcoholic and a tiny part of me knew that.
- 10:59[SPEAKER_00]: And this was the part of me that wanted more from my girls, not for me, but for them.
- 11:05[SPEAKER_00]: My strong will compelled me to begin a new way forward, to live without alcohol in those tempting evening moments after work and before bedtime.
- 11:15[SPEAKER_00]: My husband had already given it up, and so I joined him, not sure what would happen when my year was up.
- 11:21[SPEAKER_00]: In those seductive evening hours, I grew antsy.
- 11:25[SPEAKER_00]: Those hours when I was tired and all I wanted was to reach for something to help me kick back until I potentially relaxed myself into oblivion.
- 11:34[SPEAKER_00]: No more was this way.
- 11:36[SPEAKER_00]: The change was difficult for weeks if not months.
- 11:39[SPEAKER_00]: I noticed a stronger desire to leave our house more often, instead of sitting around drinking, we would walk to the nearby farm or drive to beaches we hadn't visited in a while.
- 11:50[SPEAKER_00]: Eventually, abstaining from alcohol became another liberation.
- 11:54[SPEAKER_00]: My mind was now capable of more authentically engaging with my girls at a time of day when I was usually fading into numbness.
- 12:03[SPEAKER_00]: As New Year's Eve the following year came and went, I forgot about that packed until several months into 2020.
- 12:10[SPEAKER_00]: By then, I knew there was no going back.
- 12:13[SPEAKER_00]: I felt so much better and worked too hard to create new habits to start drinking again.
- 12:19[SPEAKER_00]: With becoming sober, I saw myself do something difficult.
- 12:24[SPEAKER_00]: I paved a healthier way forward, and this felt so incredibly freeing.
- 12:29[SPEAKER_00]: But through the years, a dark cloud had formed over my art and my publishing work that continued to linger.
- 12:36[SPEAKER_00]: What once fueled me now dragged me down.
- 12:38[SPEAKER_00]: The love of art within me was dimming, but a new glow emerged from wanting to look and feel and be my healthiest.
- 12:47[SPEAKER_00]: I lost myself in my business and my home life and was unaware of how off-track I had become.
- 12:53[SPEAKER_00]: I thought I had been working toward what I wanted, but despite small amounts of delight, I generally felt a lack of meaning and happiness.
- 13:02[SPEAKER_00]: Then I judged myself for this and felt guilty for being depressed instead of feeling grateful to have as much as I did.
- 13:10[SPEAKER_00]: Why was I not able to fully feel joy?
- 13:13[SPEAKER_00]: What was wrong with me?
- 13:15[SPEAKER_00]: How could my dream version of myself become more of my reality?
- 13:20[SPEAKER_00]: At the beginning of 2020, I was thread bear.
- 13:24[SPEAKER_00]: Workwise, I kept thinking the answer was to work harder to push harder past the thick feeling of being drained.
- 13:31[SPEAKER_00]: I hoped an inspired state awaited on the other side of pushing hard, but I really wasn't sure.
- 13:38[SPEAKER_00]: Weeks later, COVID hit the country and lockdown went into full effect.
- 13:42[SPEAKER_00]: All the unknowns of this virus were terrifying and the deaths that were happening across the globe were devastating for many families.
- 13:51[SPEAKER_00]: I know the virus drastically affected many people's lives.
- 13:55[SPEAKER_00]: In our family, we all went through the roller coaster of fear and were grateful to have each other to lean on.
- 14:01[SPEAKER_00]: The uncertainty was unnerving of course, but since my husband and I each owned our own businesses, we were able to adjust our jobs accordingly.
- 14:10[SPEAKER_00]: Undoubtedly, this was a stressful time, but it came with one favorable aspect for our particular family.
- 14:18[SPEAKER_00]: Time.
- 14:18[SPEAKER_00]: We experienced a slowing of time that was much needed.
- 14:23[SPEAKER_00]: This slowing of time was allowing something, allowing the simplicity of being together.
- 14:29[SPEAKER_00]: It was allowing us to hold the fear of the unknown that had raged in the background of our lives, while also holding each other.
- 14:37[SPEAKER_00]: I know some people were left isolated, and my heart extends a wide hug to them.
- 14:42[SPEAKER_00]: But for our family, we had each other, and we desperately needed to remember the beauty of this.
- 14:48[SPEAKER_00]: Having slower days with my family changed something within me, I could suddenly listen more carefully to a sound that I had been trying to come through for some time, the sound of my heart compass.
- 15:01[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't understand then, but as quarantine lifted, and we tried our best to resume life as it had been before, my intuition came alive with soft hints of another way, a slower way, a happier way.
- 15:14[SPEAKER_00]: The work I had done cleaning up my physical health,
- 15:17[SPEAKER_00]: a knowingly allowed my sensitivity to sore.
- 15:21[SPEAKER_00]: I would stand in the backyard and receive hazy visions as I lifted my chin like a wolf to the sound of the trees swaying in the wind.
- 15:30[SPEAKER_00]: I began to see a different place for our family to call home.
- 15:34[SPEAKER_00]: A place deep in nature set back from the bustle of the road with acre after acre of wild and wooded land and fields for gardens and animals.
- 15:44[SPEAKER_00]: and perhaps the property included a babbling brook.
- 15:47[SPEAKER_00]: I was a bit shocked in some ways, I considered us lucky to live where we lived, but something new was beginning to call.
- 15:56[SPEAKER_00]: As the world was moving through heaviness and my craft business began to make big changes behind the scenes, something else in my family's life shifted.
- 16:05[SPEAKER_00]: At the end of August, I woke up early as I always did.
- 16:09[SPEAKER_00]: I checked my email and found a message from my mom sent at 2am in the morning to tell me that she had hurt her leg and needed help.
- 16:17[SPEAKER_00]: I ran over to the apartment and found her on the floor, her right leg looked like gelatin, and was a naturally sticking out to the side.
- 16:26[SPEAKER_00]: It looked like her knee had disappeared.
- 16:28[SPEAKER_00]: She didn't recall tripping, only standing up to go to the bathroom when her leg buckled and she fell.
- 16:35[SPEAKER_00]: We called an ambulance and it turned out that she had severely fractured her femur.
- 16:40[SPEAKER_00]: The surgery seemed to go well, but afterwards she stopped eating from feeling unwell and sick to her stomach.
- 16:46[SPEAKER_00]: As the days passed with no improvement, my worry began to grow.
- 16:51[SPEAKER_00]: I was beside myself when she was diagnosed with subsys.
- 16:54[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't ready for the possibility of losing her.
- 16:57[SPEAKER_00]: Every day I would go to the hospital thinking my mom would be sitting up better and ready to go.
- 17:03[SPEAKER_00]: But each day I would discover her condition had worsened or was the same as the day before.
- 17:09[SPEAKER_00]: One day, on the way home from the hospital, I cried for my mom who was in a tremendous amount of physical pain.
- 17:17[SPEAKER_00]: It was as if, after all these years, the losses of my brother and my dad made her emotional body too heavy for her physical body to carry.
- 17:27[SPEAKER_00]: It was as if her body and her heart were suffering equally, and her legs could no longer hold the weight of it all.
- 17:34[SPEAKER_00]: As I drove, I cried and asked the ethers to save her.
- 17:38[SPEAKER_00]: Please don't let her die, I begged.
- 17:41[SPEAKER_00]: Let this woman who has endured so much emotional pain in her life die in her sleep, with ease, later, when she's older, give us more time together.
- 17:51[SPEAKER_00]: As I continued to drive, tears continued to escape from my eyes.
- 17:56[SPEAKER_00]: With watery vision, I glanced to my left at an open field, and in that moment I heard a thump.
- 18:03[SPEAKER_00]: I quickly turned my gaze back to the front windshield, and from the corner of my eye caught sight of a small bird dropping to the ground.
- 18:11[SPEAKER_00]: I pulled over and became as quiet as the bird, as I sat alone in the car.
- 18:16[SPEAKER_00]: What did this mean?
- 18:17[SPEAKER_00]: What had I done?
- 18:18[SPEAKER_00]: It felt symbolic.
- 18:21[SPEAKER_00]: Did this mean my mom was going to die now?
- 18:24[SPEAKER_00]: I closed my eyes for the answer.
- 18:27[SPEAKER_00]: This accident, this bird death felt more like it symbolized an ending and was not an omen of an actual death.
- 18:35[SPEAKER_00]: I opened the corridor, walked onto the street, and picked up the tiny bird.
- 18:39[SPEAKER_00]: I held it soft, breathless form in my hands, and whispered, oh sweet little wild bird, I am so sorry, let me bring you to my home where you won't be alone.
- 18:50[SPEAKER_00]: And so I did.
- 18:52[SPEAKER_00]: I brought the birdy home and could feel I was bearing more than a bird that day, but I had no idea what.
- 19:00[SPEAKER_00]: Something in me shipped measurably when I faced the possibility of my mom dying in the hospital.
- 19:05[SPEAKER_00]: something that had been shifting for a while.
- 19:08[SPEAKER_00]: The healing I had done over the years was beginning to ask for more of me.
- 19:13[SPEAKER_00]: The parts of me that I'd buried were asking to be free.
- 19:16[SPEAKER_00]: The part of me that couldn't even bear to look in the mirror asked me to turn and face it.
- 19:22[SPEAKER_00]: So I listened.
- 19:24[SPEAKER_00]: And then I started doing something I hadn't done in years.
- 19:28[SPEAKER_00]: I simply looked in the mirror and didn't turn away.
- 19:32[SPEAKER_00]: This one small act sparked a flickering light within me.
- 19:36[SPEAKER_00]: I had partially stopped looking at myself because I was too busy running a business, mothering our girls, and caring for our homestead.
- 19:43[SPEAKER_00]: But I also stopped because I didn't like what I saw, and always sensed disappointment waiting in the reflection.
- 19:50[SPEAKER_00]: With an odd sense of missing myself, I now spent longer moments in front of the mirror and was mildly shocked by what I saw.
- 19:58[SPEAKER_00]: My face had changed.
- 19:59[SPEAKER_00]: I was older and seemed to be aging more rapidly than the women in my life who were of a similar age.
- 20:06[SPEAKER_00]: The stress of my life was becoming very visible.
- 20:09[SPEAKER_00]: Although I was beginning to take care of my physical health, it was evident I was still not
- 20:17[SPEAKER_00]: In some ways, I had gotten everything I'd ever hoped for, beautiful daughters who I loved dearly, a husband who I loved despite our hard times, a house by the ocean in a town I felt that home in, sweet animals that included sheep, goats, and a bunny, and a creative business that was supporting me financially.
- 20:37[SPEAKER_00]: Even so, I was not happy.
- 20:40[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't see this with crystal clarity at the time, but for years by this point I had been stressed, depressed, afraid, anxiety-ridden, impatient, hypercritical, and increasingly disorganized and forgetful due to brain fog.
- 20:55[SPEAKER_00]: I was an insomniac, I had social anxiety.
- 20:58[SPEAKER_00]: Myself confidence hit in all time low.
- 21:01[SPEAKER_00]: Our house was messy as I struggled to create order in the chaos.
- 21:05[SPEAKER_00]: These imbalances became so typical that I began to believe this was all I was and who I was.
- 21:11[SPEAKER_00]: The change needed was deep within.
- 21:14[SPEAKER_00]: My gradual weathering led me to see life as a glass half empty rather than half full.
- 21:21[SPEAKER_00]: I was dull but something in me still wanted to shine.
- 21:25[SPEAKER_00]: I looked in the mirror feeling all this and stared.
- 21:29[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, I don't even know who I am, but I can sense I am more than this.
- 21:35[SPEAKER_00]: And that's when I met her, the wise woman, the medicine woman, the old lady who was once perhaps me, maybe she was an ancestor, a past life, or a helping spirit of some kind.
- 21:47[SPEAKER_00]: For a flash she came to me as a mirage in my own face.
- 21:51[SPEAKER_00]: I almost missed the melding of our images, but I caught it, this double exposure, and stopped to look again, but she was already gone.
- 22:01[SPEAKER_00]: I was shaken for a moment, as I was left standing alone in front of the mirror, alone and aware.
- 22:08[SPEAKER_00]: aware in a teeny, tiny way that I had had a glimpse of something new and old.
- 22:15[SPEAKER_00]: The residue of the elder presence was still tangible.
- 22:19[SPEAKER_00]: This spirit was a leader, a sage, a woman with confidence who knew something far beyond fear.
- 22:25[SPEAKER_00]: She knew something deeper, something she wanted to share with me.
- 22:29[SPEAKER_00]: Her momentary visit left an imprint like Braille for the blind that I read to mean I was, indeed, more than I had let myself believe.
- 22:39[SPEAKER_00]: My destiny of awakening arrived.
- 22:42[SPEAKER_00]: Step one was opening my sensitivities by becoming a clearer vessel.
- 22:46[SPEAKER_00]: I can only understand this now as a bird looking over the events of my life.
- 22:52[SPEAKER_00]: I can only now see that in order to access my subtle body, I needed to strengthen my physical body by cleaning up my diet and becoming sober.
- 23:01[SPEAKER_00]: I had no idea that a physical transformation would ripple toward opening a life house door to a spiritual transformation, but to become a house of harmony, which I am still working towards, and will forever be working towards.
- 23:15[SPEAKER_00]: I would need the vessel of my body to become strong enough to hold the grief and loss that came next.
- 23:22[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for listening.
- 23:23[SPEAKER_00]: If you're enjoying the podcast, I'd so appreciate if you would leave a five-star review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
- 23:30[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll meet you back here in a couple of weeks for Part 3, where I continue to face ghosts both inner and outer.
- 23:38[SPEAKER_00]: Until then, much love, see you, Rose.