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Cops searching landfill for missing Colorado mom Kelsey Berreath; PLUS: Pizza & movie turns deadly for missing Texas mom? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: or brand new town home she shares with her one
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  Speaker 1: year old child, Kelley, and everything is perfectly in order.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, cinnamon rolls are cooling on the counter beside
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  Speaker 1: the stove. Everything is in its place except mom. Kelsey
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  Speaker 1: beareth right now. Cops, of course, have zeroed in on
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  Speaker 1: the so called killer fiance, Patrick Frazy at this hour
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  Speaker 1: an update. I Meancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for being with us. Our officials set to search
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  Speaker 1: for missing mom Kelsey Beareth at a Colorado land phil
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  Speaker 1: a dump joining me right now. Crime online dot COM's
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  Speaker 1: investigative reporter Ellen Kilaurin. You can go to crime Online
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  Speaker 1: for this and all other breaking crime injustice news. Ellen,
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  Speaker 1: what's happening with the dump, Dancy. There's been a major
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  Speaker 1: development in the case and a big shift and where
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  Speaker 1: we thought investigators were looking. It's been confirmed that authorities
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  Speaker 1: are expected to be searching a landfill in Fountain, Colorado,
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  Speaker 1: which is about forty miles south of Woodland Park, where
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  Speaker 1: Kelsey Beareth lived and where she was last seen. We
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  Speaker 1: don't know when the search will begin, but waste management
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  Speaker 1: officials have confirmed local reporters that investigators have contact them
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  Speaker 1: about this, and they have confirmed that the search is
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  Speaker 1: related to the murder investigation of Kelsey Beareth. Now, according
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  Speaker 1: to people at the Midway landfill in Colorado, the CBI
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  Speaker 1: said to look at the landfield to find remains of
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  Speaker 1: Kelsey Beareth. A Waste Management spokesperson confirming officials plan to
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  Speaker 1: search the area. As Ek just told us about forty
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  Speaker 1: miles southeast of Barra's home, right out to Joseph Scott,
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  Speaker 1: Morgan forensics expert, author of Blood Beneath My Feet on
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  Speaker 1: Amazon and professor Forensics Jacksonville State University Joe Scott, Searching
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  Speaker 1: a landfill is very difficult, explain hellish nightmare, Nancy. I've
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  Speaker 1: done it several times. The problem is is that everything
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  Speaker 1: literally looks the same. It's vast. Most people do not
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  Speaker 1: understand how much garbage we generate as a society, and
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  Speaker 1: it has to go somewhere. These places are vast, many
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  Speaker 1: times that are disordered and disorganized, depended upon the jurisdiction.
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  Speaker 1: Lots of times they'll have these things kind of gritted off.
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  Speaker 1: They'll say, we dumped here on this particular day. We
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  Speaker 1: dumped here on this particular day, and then they'll try
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  Speaker 1: to match that grit up with a truck that came
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  Speaker 1: from a specific area. The trick is, do the cops
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  Speaker 1: know what they're looking for relative to points of origin
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  Speaker 1: and then places placing the refuse in the dump well.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, to Daniel Horror was joining us renown, California
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  Speaker 1: defense attorney, they have to do a grid search for
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  Speaker 1: the reasons Joe Scott was just telling us because it
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  Speaker 1: all looks alike. They're tons and tons of trash and debris,
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  Speaker 1: of human waste, of all sorts of biological I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it could be where you cut yourself with a razor
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  Speaker 1: and dabbed a tissue to it and threw it away
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  Speaker 1: a week ago, and these scent dogs are gonna hit
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  Speaker 1: on that. It could be anything. It could be from
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  Speaker 1: where you took the fat of the skin off chicken
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  Speaker 1: in the kitchen sink and you threw that away. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it could be anything, and it's a huge it's a
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  Speaker 1: monumental task, Daniel. Well, you know it's a monumental task.
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  Speaker 1: But look, I'm looking right now at crime online dot
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  Speaker 1: crime stories with Nancy Grace. What is your head saying
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  Speaker 1: this story? Killer fiance wants custody for todd, girl of
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  Speaker 1: fiance he killed. That's your headline. So this search, I
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  Speaker 1: use quote, I use quotes, and that's according to the cops. Okay, them,
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  Speaker 1: not me. Their word's not mine. Go ahead. Well, they
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  Speaker 1: have nothing in this dump, as you know, it's just
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of garbage. They arrested this guy with no
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  Speaker 1: evidence as far as we can tell. And now we're
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  Speaker 1: making like this search of the dumps a big thing.
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  Speaker 1: If I was his attorney, I'd say, go to trial
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  Speaker 1: now you've got nothing before all this innuendo builds up
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  Speaker 1: like on this crime online dot Com website, which I'm
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  Speaker 1: blaming you for. Go right ahead, because Jackie Howard and
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  Speaker 1: I are laughing in the studio, silently, silently, silent. We're
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  Speaker 1: laughing on the inside. We're laughing on the inside because
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  Speaker 1: it's not just me and crime online dot Com. It's
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  Speaker 1: the police, it's search warrants. It is so called killer fiance.
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  Speaker 1: Patrick phrases other girl friend that he met at the road,
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  Speaker 1: the divorced mom of two the in Twin Falls, Idaho, Okay. She,
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  Speaker 1: according to reports, was solicited by him on not one
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  Speaker 1: but two occasions to kill his fiancee Kelsey Barrett. What
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  Speaker 1: do you think I'm in a conspiracy with Urdaneta by
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  Speaker 1: those lawyers in Idaho. Cut his mind. It's hurting my ear,
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  Speaker 1: just tell me the news. I'm gonna just mute Daniel
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  Speaker 1: Harrows for just one brief shining moment hit me, when
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  Speaker 1: is the search going to start? We don't know yet
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  Speaker 1: when the search is going to start. Um, we're watching
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  Speaker 1: that very closely. We had to imagine that it's probably
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  Speaker 1: going to be soon. I can't imagine the investigators want
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  Speaker 1: to wait any longer. It spend two months for the
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  Speaker 1: stealthy Barrett in the thing. We're looking at an arrow
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  Speaker 1: of the landfill right now, a Midway landfill, and if
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  Speaker 1: anything is found there, it opens up a whole cornucopia
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  Speaker 1: of evidence crime stories. With Nancy Grace, it just rips
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  Speaker 1: your heart out. I'm having a hard time. I just
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  Speaker 1: every day gets harder. A mother's heart is breaking. I'm
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  Speaker 1: scared I'll never see her again. A lot. Shirley Wade
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  Speaker 1: living with her thirty eight year old daughter, Emily Wade
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  Speaker 1: and Ennis an hour south of Dallas. When her daughter disappeared. Emily,
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  Speaker 1: a waitress at Chili's, reportedly went to a coworkers for
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  Speaker 1: pizza in a movie. She hasn't been seen since. Emily
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  Speaker 1: was last seen wearing a peach colored sweater. Police say
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  Speaker 1: she was driving a silver twenty twelve Nissan Altima with
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  Speaker 1: Kentucky plates. If anybody has seen Emily seen that Nissan anywhere. Please,
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  Speaker 1: we're asking you to contact the department. You are hearing
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  Speaker 1: our friends at NBC News Carrie Anders with the very
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  Speaker 1: latest on the missing missing mom Emily Wade. The thirty
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  Speaker 1: seven year old mom has now been gone over ten
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  Speaker 1: days after she meets friends for dinner. Her mom says
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  Speaker 1: she's quote scared to death. Nothing like this has ever happened.
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  Speaker 1: Where is Emily? I mean, see Grace. This is crime Stories.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us with me. California defense
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  Speaker 1: attorney Daniel Horowitz, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics,
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville State University, an author of Blood Beneath My Feet
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  Speaker 1: on Amazon. Doctor Brian Russell, psychologist, lawyer, joining me right now.
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  Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter John Lemley. John, First
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  Speaker 1: of all, I want to hear who is Emily Wade.
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  Speaker 1: Then we'll get to the last known siding. Who is she?
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  Speaker 1: Emily Wade is a young mom who lives in an
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  Speaker 1: apartment with her seven year old daughter and her mom
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  Speaker 1: in Ennis, Texas. This is about thirty five miles south
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  Speaker 1: of Dallas. On Saturday, January fifth, the first Saturday of
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  Speaker 1: the year, Emily asks her mom if she could borrow
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  Speaker 1: her car to go to a male co worker's house.
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  Speaker 1: They wanted to eat pizza and watch a movie, and
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  Speaker 1: she wanted to make an early evening of it. The
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  Speaker 1: last time her family saw her was late afternoon that Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: as Emily left her friend's house. Apparently she stayed there
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  Speaker 1: for a few hours, long enough to eat pizza and
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  Speaker 1: watch a movie, and according to the co worker, she
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  Speaker 1: left his house, presumably to go home at eight thirty pm. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Emily's mom said she began to worry when Emily was
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  Speaker 1: still not home by ten pm. Then when Emily didn't
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  Speaker 1: whoa whoa wait wait wait with me, John Limily Crime
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  Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter. We're talking about a Texas mom.
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  Speaker 1: Thirty seven year old Emily Waite has been of her
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  Speaker 1: ten days that she went missing. Okay, are you telling me?
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  Speaker 1: Did she live with her mom? Look? Not judging, My
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  Speaker 1: mom lives with me. I'm fine with that. What I'm
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  Speaker 1: asking is did she live in the under the same
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  Speaker 1: roof with her mother, right in the same apartment They
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  Speaker 1: took care of the seven year old together. Okay, all right,
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  Speaker 1: See that is significant to me and I'll tell you why.
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  Speaker 1: To Daniel Horrowitz, renowned California defense attorney, it's one thing
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  Speaker 1: when the mom or the family quote doesn't hear from them,
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  Speaker 1: right like you don't get the good night text or
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  Speaker 1: the phone call, because that can always be explained away.
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  Speaker 1: Oh she got busy working or preparing the lunch to
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  Speaker 1: pack for the child the next day and fell asleep.
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  Speaker 1: But when you're under the same roof, you know, well,
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  Speaker 1: your daughter doesn't come home Daniel's that's much more concrete
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  Speaker 1: when we're trying to establish that timeline. Daniel Horrowitz, Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's right. I mean ten thirty is not very late
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  Speaker 1: in the evening. Wait wait a minute, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait wait wait, back it up, my friend,
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Horowitz. I don't know what planet you're living on,
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  Speaker 1: but I have to get up between four thirty and
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  Speaker 1: five to get everything done, to shoot out of the
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  Speaker 1: house like a cannon a little after seven to get
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  Speaker 1: the children to school. I mean, you have a child, right,
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  Speaker 1: don't you have a beautiful baby? Well, yes, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't work at Chili's as as a wait wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: wait a Minutewitz, Hold on, who's getting up and getting
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  Speaker 1: everything ready for the baby. I guess that's all on
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  Speaker 1: your wife. So because ten thirty to me, I'm dragging
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  Speaker 1: by ten thirty, I am no longer at nine owl. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I would like to find out what time she normally
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  Speaker 1: got up. Maybe the mother did the morning work with
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  Speaker 1: the child and got a child off. You have to
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  Speaker 1: find that out. You got me on that, But would
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  Speaker 1: you at least agree that she is in the best
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  Speaker 1: position to know what time Emily should be coming home
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  Speaker 1: as is her normal routine. And why this is so
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  Speaker 1: far out that she didn't show up. Well, that's the
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  Speaker 1: big question, isn't it. What time was she expect at all?
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  Speaker 1: Why do you answer every question with a question? You
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  Speaker 1: know what? Forget it. I know where you're head are.
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  Speaker 1: You're trying to protect some defendant in the future. We
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  Speaker 1: don't even know who it is yet, John Linley back
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  Speaker 1: to her not showing up at ten thirty. I'm getting
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  Speaker 1: nothing out of horror. It's go ahead. Actually, her b
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  Speaker 1: home time was nine pm, and so by ten PM,
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  Speaker 1: Emily's mom began to worry because Emily was still not home.
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  Speaker 1: Then this takes it to a whole new level. When
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  Speaker 1: Emily didn't show up for her eleven AM shift at Chili's,
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  Speaker 1: the restaurant they're in Ennis where she works. Everyone knew
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  Speaker 1: that something was really wrong right there. Let me bring
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  Speaker 1: in doctor Brian Russell's psychologist law while you're host of
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  Speaker 1: hit series on ID Fatal Vows. That's a whole other
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  Speaker 1: level of problems for me. And I'll tell you why.
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  Speaker 1: Because every nut and as a brother, I mean, who
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  Speaker 1: hasn't gone to Chili's. I love chilies, The children love it,
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  Speaker 1: and I love it because, if I'm correct, they have
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  Speaker 1: broccoli as one of the children's choices, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: let them have their chicken fingers or whatever it is
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  Speaker 1: they want until they eat their green thing. Brian Russell,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's at Chili's. I mean, maybe not Daniel Harrowitz, you know,
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  Speaker 1: since he stays up late he goes out for fine dining.
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  Speaker 1: But Brian, who, I mean, every nut in town could
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  Speaker 1: have seen her at Chili's. So, if I understand you correctly,
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  Speaker 1: you're suggesting it, and I think you're correct. It is
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  Speaker 1: an occupational hazard of working in the restaurant industry that
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  Speaker 1: you do come across a wide swath of the public.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I think It's very important for people,
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  Speaker 1: especially when they leave those establishments after working night shifts,
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  Speaker 1: to have somebody make sure they watch them to their
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  Speaker 1: car and make sure that they get out of there
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  Speaker 1: without anybody hung around waiting for them. Doctor Brian, you
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  Speaker 1: said that so eloquently, so beautifully, But I really think
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  Speaker 1: it boils back down to my one word. Nuts. Every
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  Speaker 1: nut and his brother trump through Chili's, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm right there with them. The children love it. But
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  Speaker 1: what you're saying, he's absolutely correct, John Limley. So she
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  Speaker 1: didn't come home that night, and she didn't show up
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  Speaker 1: to Chilis for her. You know what, She's really cute,
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  Speaker 1: She's really cute. This is a cute young mom. I
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  Speaker 1: need to find out about who is the dad of
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  Speaker 1: this child, but what I understand is the little girl
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  Speaker 1: their daughters dad, Jared Jones, has been leading the search
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  Speaker 1: for Emily and voluntarily spoke to police. But but listen
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  Speaker 1: to this. We're looking for a white female, blonde hair.
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  Speaker 1: She's five foot six, roughly one hundred and forty pounds.
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  Speaker 1: Her name is Emily Wade. Emily was last seen Saturday
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  Speaker 1: around five pm, leaving her home on Yorkstown. She was
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  Speaker 1: driving southbound on Clay last that we know about, she
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  Speaker 1: was driving her two thousand and twelve Nissan Ford or Altima.
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  Speaker 1: There's a couple of distinctive marks on this vehicle. One
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  Speaker 1: is the license plates for Kentucky license plate and two
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  Speaker 1: there's a split buffer on the front of the vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: Emily was last seen wearing a peach colored sweater, blue jeans,
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  Speaker 1: and peach colored Nike Tennis shoes. We're hearing that from
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  Speaker 1: Enis Police Department. That's a Facebook video they put out
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  Speaker 1: their Charlie desperate way to find a thirty seven year
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  Speaker 1: old mom, Emily Wade. She didn't come home the night
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  Speaker 1: she was supposed to, and she didn't show up for
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  Speaker 1: a shift at Chilies. You know, I've heard very very
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  Speaker 1: little about this case. To Joe Scott Morgan, forensics expert
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  Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, Joe Scott,
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  Speaker 1: I mean to me, Chilies is a perfect place to
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  Speaker 1: start the investigation at least be a critical piece of
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  Speaker 1: the puzzle. Yeah, because you can. One of the great
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  Speaker 1: things about it is you've got a lot of eyes
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  Speaker 1: on there. And not to mention CCTV, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: one thing for a person to disappear, How do you
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  Speaker 1: make a car disappear? They have to find this car,
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  Speaker 1: Nancy and I think that when they find this car,
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be a major lead in this case.
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  Speaker 1: It's very difficult to hide something like this, and it's
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  Speaker 1: got these distinctive marks that they're talking about. First off
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  Speaker 1: Kentucky plates, it's going to stand out in Texas, and
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  Speaker 1: then these markings on the bumper. So that's going to
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  Speaker 1: be critical in this case. Take listen to our friend
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  Speaker 1: at NBC. This is Carry Sanders. It has now been
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  Speaker 1: ten days since anybody has seen Emily Wade. Her mother
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  Speaker 1: and her ex boyfriend, who is the father of their
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  Speaker 1: seven year old daughters, say it is unlike her to
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  Speaker 1: have just gotten up and disappeared and walked away, which
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  Speaker 1: is why they now fear foul play. Police say there
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  Speaker 1: has been no pings or use of Emily's cell phone,
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  Speaker 1: neither has her credit card or ATM been used. They've
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  Speaker 1: actually searched all of the waterways in and around this area.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps she drove in, they thought, but they've found nothing,
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  Speaker 1: which is why the police have not ruled out foul play.
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  Speaker 1: Emily and her ex boyfriend, Jared Jones share custody of
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  Speaker 1: a seven year old daughter. Both Emily's mother and Jared
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  Speaker 1: questioned by police. In situations like this, detectives always look
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  Speaker 1: first at the family. Yes they did it, and understand
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  Speaker 1: that anything going on that is not obvious here with
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  Speaker 1: me or with Jared. I would be really surprised if
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  Speaker 1: Jared had anything that he loved Emily. He loves Emily.
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  Speaker 1: They just didn't mess together, you know, but they loved
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  Speaker 1: their daughter equally, and he wouldn't. I don't think Jared
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  Speaker 1: would ever hurt the mother of his child. Well, that's
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  Speaker 1: been said so many times in the Scott Peterson case
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  Speaker 1: and the Chris Watts case. At first the family always
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  Speaker 1: thinks they spouse had nothing to do with it. Would
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  Speaker 1: never ever ever. That was Carry Sanders, our friend at
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  Speaker 1: NBC News, and you're hearing Surely Wade. That's Emily Wade's mom. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: for those of you just joining us, a thirty seven
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  Speaker 1: year old mom, a beautiful young mom. As a matter
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  Speaker 1: of fact, Emily Wade has disappeared. This Texas mom has
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  Speaker 1: now been gone ten days. She goes to dinner, never
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  Speaker 1: seen again, she didn't come home. She shares an apartment
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  Speaker 1: with her mom and together they take care of the
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  Speaker 1: little girl. I want to go out to John Limley,
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  Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, John, there are reasons
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  Speaker 1: that cops always start with the husband, the spouse, the X,
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  Speaker 1: the boyfriend. Why that is the love connection, if there
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  Speaker 1: is such a phrase for it. It's that relationship that
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  Speaker 1: is closer than all others and can also lead to
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  Speaker 1: some violence in certain relationships. And authorities have said they
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  Speaker 1: have not determined if there is any foul play. However,
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  Speaker 1: it has not been ruled out. Police tell us that
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  Speaker 1: Wade's ex boyfriend, Jared Jones, has been questioned, same with
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  Speaker 1: that male coworker that she went to visit that night.
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  Speaker 1: John Limley, you told me that he spoke voluntarily to police.
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  Speaker 1: To Daniel Harrowitz, California defense attorney, renowned attorney, Daniel, you
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  Speaker 1: have defended a lot of homicides, and I'm sure you
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  Speaker 1: would have told this guy, don't talk to police, even
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  Speaker 1: if you didn't do it. You're the main suspect. But
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  Speaker 1: he did not only did he speak to police, he
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  Speaker 1: led a lot of the searches. You know, Daniel Harrowitz,
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  Speaker 1: Remember when you and I covered um Lacy Peterson's murder,
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  Speaker 1: her disappearance, her murder, the murder offer unborn child Connor,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and then the trial. You're right there with me, remember
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: at the courthouse every single day, and you would join
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: me in the ring. Yes, yes, oh, the good the
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: good times, the good times. But in that case, you know,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Scott Peterson was not front and center looking for Lacy.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Not only that, you know it's like a crowbarring his
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: teeth apart to get him to speak. And then when
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: he did speak we found out why it was disastrous.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: He was like a snake oil salesman. This guy, on
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the other hand, yeah, I compared him to a bad
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: actor in a high school theater performance. It was it
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: was painful. Was it was chalk on a board, screeching
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: nails on a board. But this guy has been out
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: there actually beating the bushes trying to find her. And
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: to me, that's what I mean. Yes, we've seen murderers
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: go on the search and then there's the shot like
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: how could they be so two faces to go on
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: the search, act like they're trying to find the victim.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: But it really goes a long way with me when
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: you see the I guess love interest out there front
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: and center way in Daniel. Well, first of all, I
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: wanted to talk about the Peterson case. You know, there
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: were three prosecutors in the core room and a fourth
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: one outside talking about the case. That was you and
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: anytime you would talk about something the next day they
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: do it in the courtroom. I remember that that. That's right,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: it did happen. I forgot about that. I still claim
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: that you won the case for him, but thank you
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: for that. But in this case, the guy, the guy
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: has a cell phone. There's something we didn't have in
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: the Peterson case. You know, if you've got Uber on
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: your cell phone, they're tracking you, um, you know, twenty
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: four hours a day if they want, you probably have
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: that that boyfriend or ex boyfriend's cell phone. They know
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: where he was at the time that she disappeared, from
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the time she left the house until you know, she
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: didn't show up at home, so it's pretty easy to
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: clear him in terms of being physically there or not there.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: You know where she was. They could probably get her
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: phone data as well. That's to me a key and
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: a missing person case. You know what, that's a really
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: good point because to just Scott Morgan, forensics expert author
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: of Blood But My Feet Joseph Scott Morgan in the
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Kelsey Barrett disappearance, the Colorado mom that we're hot on
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the trail trying to locate her remains right now, very important,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: very critical. We know cops have said he never left
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: the state of Colorado yet her Kelsey Barrett, the mother
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: of his one year old child, Kelly cell phone ping
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: eight hundred miles away near good in Idaho Twin Falls,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: the area where his other girlfriend lived, but he didn't
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: go there. How do we know that? Most likely because
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: of technology his cell phone, possible GPS, in his vehicle,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: receipts and ATMs, you name it. He has left an
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: electronic footprint. Daniel's right. So I'm guessing the cops are
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: able to distance this dad from where Emily Wade was.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: What you think, Joe Scott, Yeah, I mean we're walking
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: around with trackers in our pocket everywhere we go, right,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: And so I think that with this boyfriend, this estranged
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: boyfriend who shares custody of this daughter, I think that
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: that they have been able to clear him to a
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: certain degree. And also they're going to be looking at
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: his behaviors. Scotsman, Fully it would seem at least me
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: fully engaged. He gives interviews, he talks freely. He's out
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: there on the front lines trying to help find this
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: poor missing woman. So yeah, that's my thought, at least
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: in this particular case. Because look, as far as I'm concerned,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: and we've covered a ton of these cases, I always
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: look at those in the intimate circle. First. You have
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: to clear these individuals. Guys, we are talking about a
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: missing mom. Won't you help us find her? Nine seven
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: two eight seven five four six two nine seven two
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  Speaker 1: eight seven five four four six two Listen to our
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: friends at NSPD. Emily has a young daughter and a
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: mother that she lives without here in Yorkshtown. The family
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: is very worried, very concerned. We need your help. If
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: anybody has seen Emily seen that Nissan anywhere, please we're
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: asking you to contact the department. The detective that's working
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: as a detective, Roddey Rickman, please reach out to him.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: We're working several leads now, but we need more. While
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: we're any and all leads, we need your help, folks,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: help us find Emily for her family. Hi, Nancy Grace here,
• 25:44
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• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Jared says he's cooperating with police and understands
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: why detectives have asked him hard questions as if he
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: had something to do with Emily's disappearance, because it's all
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: part of the investigation. You have nothing to hide, absolutely not.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: You're not responsible, absolutely not. Since she went missing, Jared
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: says he's been out searching back roads looking for any
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: clue of Emily. It's been Gunrenchie, their young daughter, fully
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: aware something's not right that here, you're going to find mommy?
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Can I tell her? Yes, we're going to find her.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that's our friend. Harry Sanders, NBC speaking
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: to Jared the husband. I'm just thinking about that little girl.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: John Limley, Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. How old
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: is their daughter? She is seven years old, and Jared
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: has told us that every day, every night, when she's
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: saying her prayers, she'll look at her dad and ask her,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: is mommy coming home? Are you going to find her?
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: And he will very boldly say yes. And then, of course,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: being a seven year old, she follows that up with when,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: and that's what really crushes him. Daniel Harrowitz, I want
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: to go to all three of you guys. First of all,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: to you, Daniel, you haven't seen John, David and Lucy
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: in the flesh anyway and a couple of years, although
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: you see their pictures routinely. The other day what where
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: was Okay, I had to fly to New York and
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: to tape an Oz, doctor Oz, and I called home, facebooked,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and Lucy went in the bathroom, shut the door and
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: she said, come, I know my husband and my mom.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we're taking perfectly fine care of her. But
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: you know, there's just no replacement for the mom. I'm
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: just putting it out there, Daniel, how old is your babe?
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I got a seven and nine year old, really own
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: eight and ten. But yeah, gosh, the mom is the
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: first team and everybody else's back up in the family.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: That's the truth. So John Limley speaking of the child,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: speaking of the potential that the data is involved, which
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: in this case, police are saying he is not a suspect.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Why can you tell me about cell phone data? Right now?
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Police are telling us that Emily's cell phone has been
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: turned off, which also means the battery could have died.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: She has not used it since before she was last
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: seen that Saturday night, and according to a police as well,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: she has not used her credit cards and her bank
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: account has not been touched. Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Okay to justice. Scott Morgan, forensics expert author of blood
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: beneath my way in Yeah, you know, Nancy. One of
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: the things that's really striking to me about this particular
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: case is the fact that, uh she when she made
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: these arrangements to go and watch a movie and have
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: pizza at a co worker's house. Um, she had a
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: very early night of it, didn't she. They you know,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: she was gonna be home. She's got a child at home,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: her mom's watching the kid. She's gonna be home early.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: And so this is this is done in in complete uh,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: you know, in an obvious set of circumstances where people
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: can see the comings and goings. My question is, who
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: was she with at that apartment? I want to know
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: who she's engaged with. I want to know more about
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: this coworker. Guys, we're talking about a missing mom. Emily
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Wade to doctor Brian Russell, psychologist, lawyer, host of Id's
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Fatal Vows, Doctor Bryan what now, Now, here's a wrinkle.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: We know that Emily Wade and her mom picked up
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: and moved about a month ago to this area in
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: his Texas to actually be closer to the baby's bio. Dad. Well,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I think that's significant, Nancy, because when we look at
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: cases like Kelsey Barrett allegedly, when we look at cases
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: like the horrific Colorado case we've talked about recently where
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the guy killed the entire you know, the wife and
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: the kids, Watts, We've seen people commit murder to get
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: custody of children. We've seen people commit murder to avoid
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: having to have custody of children so they could get
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: on with their lives with other people. None of that
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: looks like it's in play here. It looks like the
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: relationship between the child's two parents was actually pretty good.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Doesn't look like there was any animosity about the end
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: of the relationship or any real disagreement about custodial division.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: In fact, as you said, it looked like they were
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: actually trying to share custody better between the two of them.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: And so I agree with Joe Scott. I think in
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: this case we have to expand the circle outward a
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: little bit now from the intimate partner or immediate past
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: intimate partner too. Okay, who else was in the close
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: circle around this young woman? And it does interest me
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: greatly who she was planning to spend this evening with.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Did she make it there, and what does that person
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: have to say about the evening. Let's talk about that,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: John Looley, Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, where does
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: she go that evening? Because we've been focusing a lot
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: on the bio dad of the child, he has cooperated,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: he has joined into the search. What can you tell
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: me about that evening? Where was she? It seems so innocent.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Pizza with coworkers exactly, and that it sounds like a
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: plan was hatch earlier that afternoon. It's quite possible that
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: she worked that afternoon and maybe while they were wrapping
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: up their shift together, she and that male co worker
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: decided to meet at his place for a movie and pizza, which,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: from what we can tell is the co worker's house
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: is just virtually around the corner from the apartment that
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Emily shares with her mom. And as he has told police,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: eight thirty is when he saw her tail lights pull
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: away from his place, and that was the last he
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: saw her house. He's so sure that it was eight thirty. Well,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: that is a good question that the exact statement is
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: the one that he gave to police. And of course,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: since this is an active investigation, police are keeping the
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: identity of the male coworker close to the vest and
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: not releasing more in nation about this. I had at
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: bass Ackwards John Lumley. I thought she went out to
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: pizza with a group of co workers. Is that not correct? No,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: she was just at the home of this one male
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: co worker. Okay, now that's shifting things in my mind.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Thirty seven year old mom expected back home before nine pm.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: She never showed up. She left her apartment around five
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: to go to a friend's house, the co worker, to
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: have pizza. Immediately, her family starts looking for her. In
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: contacted the Ennis, Texas Police. Now this is what we
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: are learning. The husband, the x, the father of the daughter, says, quote,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: she would not just go away. She wanted to be here,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: was happy to be here. Now that's a far cry.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Daniel Harrowitz, California defense attorney from somebody like Drew Peterson,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: who the moment Stacy Peterson goes missing, says a she
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: has a boyfriend. She probably left the house on foot.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Right then he tried to give away all of her
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: bathing suits and furs and clothes within a couple of
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: days after she quote goes missing. This guy is saying this. Jared,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: the husband is saying no, no, No, this isn't right.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: She would never do this. Do you see the difference, Daniel, Yeah,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I'm afraid I'm starting to agree with you. I don't
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: like this, but I'm looking at this guy she watched
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: this movie with because I'm a suspicious person. I don't
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: think that men and women who are single at that
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: age just go to eat pizza and watch movies. I
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: don't think that's what it's about. It's a date. It's
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: a intimate or not intimate, and that's maybe where they
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: get into an argument, in a fight and he loses
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: it and something bad happens. He kills her eight thirties
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: pretty early for her to be leaving if she's around
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: the corner and is having a good time. And on
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: top of that, he sees her leaving at a precise time,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: sees her tail lights on, so she's in her car.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I don't believe that she's in her car with the
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: klights on, just going around the corner almost to go home.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: That foul play happened between that moment and going home.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: It happened before. I'm focusing in on that guy in
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: that house, very very carefully. At this point, the thirty
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: eight year old moved to Texas a couple of years
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: ago from Cynthiana, however, came back to Kentucky several months
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: ago to help her mother recover from surgery. Once she
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: was better, they both moved back down to Texas just
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: three weeks ago. They made that move to be with
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Emily's seven year old daughter. Will be in namily department
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: and somebody will come over or knocked on a villar.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: She said that, Mommy, you know and imagine what you're
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: going through. My mom's having a real time, was their thoughts. Though,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I ain't your daughters missing and she down here with
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: only family, or she got a me right now down here.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Emily's brother Chad, who still lives here in Kentucky, is
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: now down in Texas helping with search efforts. Santa read
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: thereby nothing has really panned out. That is our friend
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: at wk YT TV, Hillary Thornton, talking to Emily's brother Chad,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: who is now gone to Ennis, Texas to try to
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: find his sister. This is more of what we know
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: for those of you just joining us. Missing thirty seven
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: year old mom Emily Wade goes to our friends, a
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: co workers home for pizza. Never seen again, he swears
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: he saw her drive away around eight thirty, which would
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: have been about the time she would have gone home,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: So that is consistent with her timeline. Sees her tail
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: whites leaving in the distance. She's never seen again. Her
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: car also has not been found. Authorities say they have
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: not determined if there's foul play in Emily's disappearance. Hello,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: there's foul play. Police are saying that the ex Jared Jones,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: has been questioned and they do not consider him a suspect.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Now there's a mail co worker at whose home Wade
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: went to just before she disappeared. Now we are learning
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: from police sources that this guy, the coworker, has been cooperating,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: that he is sat down for several interviews, even allowing
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: investigators to search his car and his home. But the
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: bottom line, Doctor Bryan Russell, they could get a warrant
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: if they wanted to, whether he gives permission or not.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: But I think it speaks to his benefit that he
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: did give permission. Certainly, I think when these people acknowledge,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: they understand why anybody who's investigating this would start with them,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: and they open up that they're an open book, and
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: they say things like, look, rule me out. Look at
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: whatever you want to look at, because every minute you
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: spend on me is a minute you're not after there.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: If there's a foul play involved, there's a perpetrator out there.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Every minute you spend on me as a minute you're
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: not after them. So rule me out. I think that
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: that you know, bones a lot better for that person
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: than when they clam up and lawyer up. As we
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: see so well, we also know this to John Limley,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. Search teams have used
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: drones and they have retraced Emily's route home from the
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: coworker's home. They've used drones boats during the search for Emily.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: They've retraced her route home from the coworkers home where
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: she had pizza. They've looked in low lying areas near creeks,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: near bodies of water that were flooded the night she disappeared.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Oh you know, that's reminding me of jo Scott Morgan.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Do you remember Crystal Rogers I think was her last name.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: She was a gorgeous young Texas mom. There were floods,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: she goes missing at the same time, turned out she
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: was murdered. But my point is the flood and the
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: water rising really hindered the search for her. Remember that,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Jo Scott, Yes, I do. And it provides perfect cover
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: in that particular case. And it could provide cover not
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: just in the sense of some kind of homicidal activity,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: but also if you're dealing with floodwaters that can deal
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: with things like cars being swept away and that sort
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: of thing. Deepen it upon the body of water, you know,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Daniel Harrowitz, California defense attorney, I want to ask you
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: this question. They'll have to follow it up with our
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: beloved shrink doctor Brian Russell. Daniel, listen to this. Her family,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Emily's family are searching the ex Jared Jones, and I
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: think there's more between them, because she just moved all
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: the way back to Ennis, Texas to be closer to
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: him with their child. I wonder if they were trying
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: to rekindle a relationship. But that's the whole other canter Worms.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: He Jared Jones and the brother Chad Wade had been
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: driving around Ennis looking for her. And the reason that
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: gets me so distraught. Can you just imagine them in
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: the car and after my fiance died and Daniel, you
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: lost your wife in a homicide. I remember having dreams
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: where I would be out looking for Key and I
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  Speaker 1: would be searching and searching. I guess my mind was
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  Speaker 1: trying to reconcile. It couldn't reconcile that he was actually gone,
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  Speaker 1: and in the dream i'd be it'd always be bad conditions,
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  Speaker 1: like foggy or nighttime, and it was never like a
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  Speaker 1: sunny day, and I would think I heard his voice
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  Speaker 1: or even him laughing at a distance, and I would
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  Speaker 1: go to that place and there'd be nothing there. Or
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  Speaker 1: I'd have an address, like let's just say the address
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  Speaker 1: was one two three four, and I'd get to one
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  Speaker 1: two three one one two three three, and then it
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  Speaker 1: would go to one two three five and that address
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't be there, and I'd be going down all these
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  Speaker 1: side alleys trying to find that address, and just walking
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  Speaker 1: and looking and calling, this is real, Daniel. The dad,
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  Speaker 1: the bio dad and the brother out driving around looking
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  Speaker 1: for her. It just breaks my heart. You don't, right,
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  Speaker 1: And I think that you know at some point too,
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  Speaker 1: as they're driving, they're talking to each other, validating that
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  Speaker 1: this is real. Because at least for me, there was
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  Speaker 1: a sense that any moment I'm going to realize I
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  Speaker 1: was just dreaming or imagining or lost in something, and
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  Speaker 1: that it's not real. It didn't happen, and you want
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  Speaker 1: to go back to reality, which is not the reality,
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  Speaker 1: and reality you want to make a dream and you
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  Speaker 1: fight to to kind of focus on what's real. So
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  Speaker 1: at least when they're together, they can support each other
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  Speaker 1: and focus on the task at hand. But unfortunately the
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  Speaker 1: task at hand seems almost futile because they don't care
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  Speaker 1: so much to catch the person. They care to find
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  Speaker 1: her alive, and they must just be a thinking feeling
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  Speaker 1: every moment that they have to deal with the fact
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  Speaker 1: that they probably won't. Did that happen to you, Daniel?
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  Speaker 1: Did you have dreams like that? And then when you
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  Speaker 1: woke up for a moment, maybe just a moment, you
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  Speaker 1: didn't take in that she was gone and everything's ignormal.
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  Speaker 1: And then you remember I would have stuff where I
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  Speaker 1: would just close my eyes. I said, please God, let me,
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  Speaker 1: let let me, let let you change the world. You
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  Speaker 1: can change the world. Make me be the dead one,
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  Speaker 1: and everybody else can be beal and she can be alive.
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  Speaker 1: Just do the switch. You can do it. You can
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  Speaker 1: just change that part of the world change, and that's
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  Speaker 1: I would think things like that, crazy things, you know, Daniel,
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  Speaker 1: I just love you so much. Just hearing you say
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  Speaker 1: that just breaks my heart, and I really believe right now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think the X was involved at all, and
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  Speaker 1: I know that's what he is probably saying. One person,
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  Speaker 1: Gracie Smith, who was wade sister in law, Emily's sister
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  Speaker 1: in law, said that she was writing on the Facebook
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  Speaker 1: site called Bring Emily Home, and she said, I just
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  Speaker 1: saw Emily's segment on GMA and cried my eyes out.
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  Speaker 1: It seems so unreal. This family is in so much paying,
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  Speaker 1: this little girl in so much pain. Please help us
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  Speaker 1: find Emily nine seven two eight seven five four four
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  Speaker 1: six two. Nancy Gray's crime story signing off Goodbye friend