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Plot Twist Proposal · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with her radio. It is a very special episode of
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Speaker 1: the almost Famous podcast. I'm here and my co host
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Speaker 1: the Beautiful, the Wonderful Ashley. How you doing, the Beautiful,
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Speaker 1: the Wonderful Ben Higgins? I am doing quite well today.
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Speaker 1: How are you doing? Actually? Can I tell your story?
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Speaker 1: This is just gonna start out as a ramble because
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Speaker 1: I use the word quite. I'm here to listen, Okay,
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Speaker 1: my sister is staying with me. I am the kind
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Speaker 1: of person who literally cannot stand getting rid of things
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Speaker 1: in the fridge. I hate wasting food. I hate spending
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Speaker 1: money on food when we have food in the fridge,
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Speaker 1: But mostly I hate wasting food, like you know that
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Speaker 1: little thing that your grandma would say, you know, there
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Speaker 1: are people starving in another country right now. You eat
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Speaker 1: your food always comes back to me. M hmm. And
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Speaker 1: the other day she was looking for like kind of
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Speaker 1: a a ten pm snack. You know, she'd already had dinner,
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Speaker 1: but it was early and she was hungry again. And
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Speaker 1: she was like, Ashley, came here, tell me what was
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Speaker 1: actually edible in your fridge, Like what is not outdated?
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Speaker 1: And before I tell you what, I considered not outdated.
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Speaker 1: What do you ben consider to be outdated food? Like
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Speaker 1: at what day do you stop eating leftovers? Oh, it's
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a tough question. It's dependent on
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Speaker 1: what food we're talking about. Like if we're talking about, um,
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Speaker 1: if we're talking about a cheese, I'll typically look for
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Speaker 1: a mold. If we're talking about a milk, I don't
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Speaker 1: mess with milk like expired milk. If we're talking about meat,
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Speaker 1: I don't mess with expired me um, I'm I'll push
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Speaker 1: like best by date by a few days. Um, but
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Speaker 1: you can. But like those things you don't mess with.
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Speaker 1: Fruit goes bad so fast that you're either gonna eat
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Speaker 1: it or you're not. Vegetables the same thing. Um, So
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Speaker 1: you gotta give me a category because most things, like
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Speaker 1: I grew up am I like I came from a
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Speaker 1: really like like cushy life like my you know, northern
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Speaker 1: Indiana middle class um like because but we always bought
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Speaker 1: like we went to the grocery store in town that
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Speaker 1: had the like Dale bread and like it just like
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Speaker 1: it was the thing I grew up with. Is like, hey,
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Speaker 1: no matter where you're at in life, you're gonna not
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Speaker 1: like over indulge on stuff that's just just as good,
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Speaker 1: and so I've always kind of pushed it. I guess
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Speaker 1: I've never gotten sick. I don't I don't want to
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Speaker 1: do I don't want to walk to that alley. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Like if the jelly says that it expired in April,
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Speaker 1: I'm still eating it through May. Sure. Yeah there's preserve
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Speaker 1: I mean there's preservatives in that, yeah, of course. Okay.
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Speaker 1: So what I'm talking about is like restaurant leftovers or
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Speaker 1: like you make dinner leftovers, and and if it's meat,
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Speaker 1: they probably tell you that on the internet to do
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Speaker 1: it like two to three days. I'm probably okay with
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Speaker 1: It's like if there's like chicken tenders, I'll probably throw
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Speaker 1: the chicken tenders in the air fry or four days
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Speaker 1: later and I'll make it crispy again. A right, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm pushing a week on left Okay, I'm playing. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm glad that you said that, because I'm pushing a
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Speaker 1: week too. I probably six days. I had some Chinese
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Speaker 1: food that I got Monday and I ate it Friday,
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Speaker 1: and I wasn't feeling like that was bad. Um, so
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Speaker 1: that when I tell you that, I told her that
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Speaker 1: the spaghetti in the fridge was quite fresh, which I'll
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Speaker 1: say it probably wasn't quite fresh, but it was totally
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Speaker 1: edible and fine. How many days do you think it
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Speaker 1: was in there? Three? Okay, it was. It was made
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Speaker 1: on it was, it was made on Monday, and it
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Speaker 1: was Saturday. Yeah, six, five, five to six days, five
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Speaker 1: to six days. I mean, it's not gonna taste great.
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Speaker 1: There's nothing spaghetti. There's nothing to be poisonous. Is nothing
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Speaker 1: in a spaghetti it's cooked me. Uh, it wasn't even meat.
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Speaker 1: It just red sauce, just playing on tomato sauce. Oh
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Speaker 1: geez that. Yeah, you're you're you're You're not even cooking
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Speaker 1: with gasoline there. You're just good like you're just you're
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Speaker 1: just solid. Keep She demoralized me. She thought it was
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Speaker 1: so obscene for me to offer her my sister six
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Speaker 1: days spaghetti. I'm not offering a guest to come over
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Speaker 1: and eat my six day spaghetti, but my sister. Come on, no,
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Speaker 1: I mean no, I I would it a matter of
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Speaker 1: season of life too. Like I remember in college, my
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Speaker 1: buddies would have like pizza laying out for two full
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Speaker 1: days and I would grab a slice it would be
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Speaker 1: like hard, and the cheese would kind of be like
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Speaker 1: a plastic cover depending on what obviously company you got
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Speaker 1: your pizza from. And like, that's not even in the refrigerator.
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Speaker 1: I mean that that thing is just full of anything.
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Speaker 1: And I would found a couple of pieces of It's
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Speaker 1: a no problem. Okay, thank you so much. You know
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Speaker 1: what's really funny and kind of ironic about this, Jared
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Speaker 1: comes home from work two hours later. I come downstairs
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Speaker 1: and like, what are you doing? He's like just having
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Speaker 1: some spaghetti. And then I was like, I will join
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Speaker 1: you in that. And then he and I both ate
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Speaker 1: the five distincts day old spaghetti. How do you feel?
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Speaker 1: We feel great? And then I threw it out afterwards
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Speaker 1: the remainder and Ben, look what I got in here?
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Speaker 1: I got a little generous coffee. The generous coffee in here. Well,
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Speaker 1: I'm very thankful you're drinking generous coffee. Even if you
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Speaker 1: had an upset stomach, even if your body wasn't functioning
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Speaker 1: at a hundred percent after your six day old spaghetti,
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Speaker 1: I promise you generous coffee would kick you right back
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Speaker 1: into gear. It's it's like medicinal. I can't make that
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Speaker 1: claim probably publicly, it's public illegal, but it's good coffee. Actually,
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Speaker 1: it was a long weekend for so many people. We do, uh,
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Speaker 1: I mean I I do, and I know you do.
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Speaker 1: Want to sit here and just say, you know, I
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Speaker 1: know based on even my high school college. Um, then
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Speaker 1: we can go into the elderly people who have passed,
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Speaker 1: uh serving our country. Um, serving our country, so that
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Speaker 1: we could sit here and talk like we do and
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Speaker 1: say the things we do and even have the option
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Speaker 1: to go to a grocery store and buy food. UM.
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Speaker 1: So I hope this Memorial Day was a day for
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Speaker 1: so many of us. I know it's a chaotic time
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Speaker 1: in the world, and I know that right now, um,
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Speaker 1: the wars and the rumors of wars and our opinions
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Speaker 1: on war are have you know, definitely divided the country
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Speaker 1: or there's a lot of different things. But no matter what,
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Speaker 1: we can I think sit here and say hey, thank
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Speaker 1: you to those who are serving our country and whatever capacity,
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Speaker 1: and and and definitely a Memorial Day is a day
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Speaker 1: to recognize those who have passed serving our country and
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Speaker 1: so UM with that, I just want to say thank
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Speaker 1: you to to the families who have lost loved ones
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Speaker 1: who probably listened of this because there's many um, and
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Speaker 1: I hope yesterday was a day of celebration and remembrance
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Speaker 1: for the lives. Thank you so much, thank you, thank you,
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Speaker 1: thank you. Um Ben, do you have anybody in your
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Speaker 1: family who served in a big war? Oh yeah, I
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Speaker 1: mean you gotta think that you would be from like
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Speaker 1: a sort of military family. Yeah, well you gotta think.
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Speaker 1: We're talking like my grandpa just passed away, who was
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Speaker 1: nineties six, and so World War two, um was something
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Speaker 1: that like was not an option for most people, and
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Speaker 1: so he served in World War two. Um. One of
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Speaker 1: my best friends in high school is still serving in
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Speaker 1: the military. Um. I have Jessica's best friend's husband is
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Speaker 1: in the Navy still to this day, in a very
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Speaker 1: high ranking position. UM. But my family, yes, of course,
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Speaker 1: Like you know, you had the Vietnam War in between
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Speaker 1: World War two, um, and then you just had all
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Speaker 1: the I actually didn't have anybody close to me my family,
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Speaker 1: I think day based on age and probably choice. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, serve in Afghanistan. I don't know if anybody,
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Speaker 1: um who is currently in the military within my family.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, of course my grandpa is the best example.
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Speaker 1: It was a lot of his stories came from those times,
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Speaker 1: good and bad. Yes, my grandpa he fought indeed day
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Speaker 1: like he was there on the beaches of Norman Day.
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Speaker 1: And this is so crazy to think, like would I
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Speaker 1: you know you just like, would you be here? Yeah, no,
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Speaker 1: you would not be I can promise you that if
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Speaker 1: if things would have gone different. Um, so yeah, yes,
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Speaker 1: a Memorial Day is always uh a day for me
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Speaker 1: because I do I put myself in those shoes, and
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Speaker 1: I think so many people do too. If you just
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Speaker 1: take a second, like it's a it's a fun day
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Speaker 1: because we get the day off of work and you
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Speaker 1: get to cook out. And usually people travel and gather
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Speaker 1: and camp and hike and go by the pool and
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Speaker 1: this is the first day of the you know, the
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Speaker 1: lakes really open up and all that stuff. But I
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Speaker 1: oftentimes asked myself, Um, you know, I'm thirty three now,
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Speaker 1: so I'd be an old old person if I if
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Speaker 1: I went to into the military. You know, my grandpa's
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Speaker 1: like eighteen. Um that's fifteen years ago for me, and
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Speaker 1: and it just makes me think about those people who
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Speaker 1: lost lives. I'll tell you a quick story. Um that
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Speaker 1: always I'm always reminded of Amoral Day. There's an incredible
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Speaker 1: bar in New York City called mcsorley's. Mcsorley's has this story.
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Speaker 1: I think you kind of call it um a tale
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Speaker 1: because I don't know if it can be proven, but
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Speaker 1: I think there is documentation of this um. But mcsorley's
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Speaker 1: has been around. It's one of the oldest bars in
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Speaker 1: the US. UM incredibly old. I would try to say
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Speaker 1: the date, but I would have to look it up. Anyways,
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Speaker 1: before the kids in New York City went off to
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Speaker 1: war for World War One, they had these um lights
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Speaker 1: above the bar that we're connected by a pole. McSorley said, hey,
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Speaker 1: how about you come in uh and get a turkey
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Speaker 1: dinner that on the night with your families the night
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Speaker 1: before you go to war. And then everybody would take
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Speaker 1: off take out the wishbone. UM. Oh thank you. Our
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Speaker 1: producer just told us Mick Sorylis was um starting eighteen
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Speaker 1: fifty four Super Bowl. And so you'd finish your dinner,
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Speaker 1: you take the wishbone from the turkey and you put
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Speaker 1: up on um the light. You'd hang it right, you'd
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Speaker 1: put it out there so that the v attached to
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Speaker 1: the pole that the light was on. Then when you
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Speaker 1: came home from war, you could take a wishbone off.
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Speaker 1: The thing that always struck me. Uh. And and one
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Speaker 1: of the reasons why when you go to Mike Sorylers
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Speaker 1: now is there's still many wishbones on the light that
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Speaker 1: never got taken off by people not coming back from war. Um,
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Speaker 1: which was you know, it's something I don't know, it's weird.
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Speaker 1: It's like I went to this bar to have a
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Speaker 1: good drink. Uh. And that's that's always stuck with me.
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Speaker 1: A Memorial days, these kids coming in with their families
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Speaker 1: having dinner, putting it up there, some returning taken off
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Speaker 1: and some not being able to take it off. So anyways,
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Speaker 1: that is Um, yesterday was a good day from members,
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Speaker 1: a good day for cookouts. I hope everybody listening had
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Speaker 1: a great day with family or friends or just by
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Speaker 1: yourself if you just took the day um to be
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Speaker 1: by yourself. Um. Also, actually, as we do this little
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Speaker 1: host chat, it's a little more serious of a host
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Speaker 1: chat for me, um, if I could get personal, it's
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Speaker 1: been a really odd week. Uh last week. Of course,
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Speaker 1: last week it was a horrible week. It was a
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Speaker 1: horrible week, but I I am frustrated right now. Actually,
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Speaker 1: So I spent last week IM. I was invited to
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Speaker 1: an event UM in Colorado Springs. I was invited to
11:38
Speaker 1: an event hosted by Focus on the Family. If you
11:40
Speaker 1: know Focus on the Family. They've been around forever. UM.
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Speaker 1: They're known to be UM anti a lot of things,
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Speaker 1: a lot of things I personally, as a Christian uh
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Speaker 1: am not anti against. And I think people at this
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Speaker 1: point either really um it really either angers them or
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Speaker 1: they say, yeah, I get it. Um, I'm on that
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Speaker 1: journey of trying to figure out how to love people
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Speaker 1: better too, and I don't, you know, I don't know
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Speaker 1: always where the line is and what I should be
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Speaker 1: holding people too. And I've just kind of given up
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Speaker 1: holding people to any type of anything other than an
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Speaker 1: idea of loving others, loving themselves, and hopefully loving God.
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Speaker 1: So I was invited to this event, I think just
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Speaker 1: to they wanted to kind of share their thoughts and
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Speaker 1: where they're going and where they're at and what they're
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Speaker 1: doing with a group of people that maybe don't fully
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Speaker 1: agree with everything they're about. And I think that's really healthy.
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Speaker 1: I think it's a really good practice in life actually
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Speaker 1: is to surround yourself with people that maybe aren't always
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Speaker 1: a part of your tribe or your network. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: I left being fairly encouraged. I won't go into the
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Speaker 1: details of the stuff they're up to, but I really
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Speaker 1: enjoyed hearing from their CEO and sitting in a room
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Speaker 1: of ten people with him and hearing where his heart's
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Speaker 1: at and where he wants to go and how he
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Speaker 1: sees the world and the things that he wants to
12:51
Speaker 1: focus on. A lot of that is UM, outside of
12:54
Speaker 1: anything like helping make the adoption product process more efficient
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Speaker 1: and effective for those wanting to adopt. Great thing. I
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Speaker 1: think most people, no matter where you're at, I would
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Speaker 1: agree with that process. The other one is increasing UM
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Speaker 1: the punishment for those who uh UM control and operate
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Speaker 1: uh sex trafficking rings. I think, really great, really good.
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Speaker 1: Now there's other stuff maybe I wouldn't get behind that
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Speaker 1: they're up to. UM. Again, I don't have to get
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Speaker 1: the details, but those two things I left being like, okay,
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Speaker 1: I can, we can, we can get on the same
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Speaker 1: page and those things. So I left there. I'm driving
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Speaker 1: home and I get a text Sunday afternoon, UM and
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Speaker 1: and many people who listen to the almost famous podcast
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Speaker 1: message me. And this is why I'm saying it. UM
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Speaker 1: from a home church or a church within my home
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Speaker 1: of Orsandiana where a pastor um gets up and he
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Speaker 1: admits that he's committed adultery to the congregation and um.
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Speaker 1: He kind of frames it in this way that says, hey,
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Speaker 1: I've um, I've sinned against my family. This happened when
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Speaker 1: you got home. Yeah, this happened Sunday in Warsaw, and
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Speaker 1: I got text that afternoon, I got I was at
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Speaker 1: the event in till Sunday morning in Colorado Springs or
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Speaker 1: Sunday evening, I guess, um, so having twenty four hours later,
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Speaker 1: and he says I've committed adultery. And he's framing it
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Speaker 1: as I'm admitting this into the congregation um, which I
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Speaker 1: think always comes from a place of hey, I'm a
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Speaker 1: big enough human to admit that I've messed that kind
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Speaker 1: of thing, you know, and everybody collapse. A young lady
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Speaker 1: walks up on stage and says, uh, well, he just
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Speaker 1: kind of walks out of the congregation and walks up
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Speaker 1: on her own on stage and says, yeah, what he
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Speaker 1: didn't tell you? As I was sixteen years old, when
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Speaker 1: he did this, and um, the church's reaction, I can't.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to judge the church's reaction. It was
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Speaker 1: a very odd reaction. If you've seen the video many
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Speaker 1: people have. It wasn't my reaction just then, No, it wasn't.
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Speaker 1: It was national news. Um, the reaction was confused. I
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Speaker 1: think it would be. And I talked to some people
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Speaker 1: that were part of the congregation that day and they said,
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Speaker 1: how long was he a pastor? There? For thirty five years? Um,
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Speaker 1: so he he's he's in his mid sixties at this point.
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Speaker 1: But I think the congregation was confused at what was happening.
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Speaker 1: And I have to give him that grace and be like, hey,
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Speaker 1: I know what, Like when we watched the video and
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Speaker 1: we know the truth to what was happening, we can go,
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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, how did the congregation not react in
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Speaker 1: shock and like disappointment and whatever things you want to do?
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Speaker 1: They didn't because I think they were confused at what
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Speaker 1: was being said in what was happening and if it
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Speaker 1: was um, yeah, and so it was a really hard
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Speaker 1: thing for me to see because here's the truth. And
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Speaker 1: I'll get off my soapbox in a second. I'm really
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Speaker 1: saddened this week. And then we have the SBC report,
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Speaker 1: the Southern Baptist Convention report, which many people know about.
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Speaker 1: By the way, that is not my home church. That
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Speaker 1: is not a church that I attended. I know of
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Speaker 1: it because it's in a small town of wors On, Indiana, UM,
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Speaker 1: but it is not a lot of people were wondering,
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Speaker 1: is this your church? No, not at all the church
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Speaker 1: that you're talking about with the adultery. Yeah, it is
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Speaker 1: not my church. So just to be clear, I do
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Speaker 1: know the people that work there, I do know of
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Speaker 1: the families, but it's not my church. Um that I
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Speaker 1: don't know if that makes a difference. W people are asking.
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Speaker 1: I guess they were curious. But the SPC report comes
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Speaker 1: out the Southern Baptist Convention UM, and they over their
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Speaker 1: time of power have and they have a lot of power,
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Speaker 1: a lot of political power, a lot of religious power. UM.
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Speaker 1: They've covered up uh seven cases of sexual abuse and
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Speaker 1: sexual assault within their congregations that would never spoke about
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Speaker 1: and that came out in the investigation that was just
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Speaker 1: released last week. And then obviously we have, um, the
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Speaker 1: school shooting in Texas, and I you know, it's weird
16:34
Speaker 1: to jump on this podcast and a bit we're gonna
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Speaker 1: go through headlines. Um. I think the question I've been
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Speaker 1: asking myself this week is like, um, why what? Uh? Where?
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Speaker 1: What are we doing? I think is a lot of
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Speaker 1: um the confusion what are we doing? Where have we um?
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Speaker 1: And in both situations, the church and the shooting, where
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Speaker 1: have we neglected and pushed aside the preciousness of life?
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Speaker 1: This is not me? I hope maybe it does. Maybe
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Speaker 1: it is coming off as like a preachy thing. I
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Speaker 1: just it's like questions I want to ask, is like,
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Speaker 1: where have we gone wrong? Because we're going somewhere really wrong?
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Speaker 1: And UM, I guess as a Christian myself, I want
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Speaker 1: to know my role in that. And then also just
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Speaker 1: as a as a human, I want to know my
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Speaker 1: role in this. And so a lot of this week
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Speaker 1: has been trying to figure out when the hell is happening?
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Speaker 1: And again we this is the third time I'll make
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Speaker 1: this statement, but we jump on this podcast and we
17:36
Speaker 1: talked about headlines, We talked about love, and we're gonna
17:38
Speaker 1: talk about relationships that are existing within this franchise. And
17:41
Speaker 1: you know, the franchise used to be a space where
17:44
Speaker 1: it was kind of marketed as an escape from the
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Speaker 1: chaos that is this world. I feel like at this
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Speaker 1: point in time, though, the chaos that is this world
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Speaker 1: is is so prevalent and so necessary and so needed
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Speaker 1: that we we don't Maybe we can't. We can't afford
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Speaker 1: the escape. Uh, like none of us can. And maybe
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Speaker 1: that's my point is is like we we have to
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Speaker 1: all be a part of something bringing us together again,
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Speaker 1: because this is gother again. We we got to get together.
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Speaker 1: And it seems like every time something like this happens,
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Speaker 1: people are even pulled further apart. Yeah, and then I
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Speaker 1: don't know what we have to do to get bother
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Speaker 1: and to get together. I wish I had answers. Have
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Speaker 1: we had answers right now? Then? I guess the point
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Speaker 1: is if you're listening. I think the first step here
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Speaker 1: is if you're listening, I just know that, like, because
18:37
Speaker 1: you have breath, you have value and you have purpose,
18:41
Speaker 1: and that you belong and you're needed and you're necessary,
18:44
Speaker 1: and that there's people that need you and want you
18:48
Speaker 1: to be a place of healing and comfort and listening
18:50
Speaker 1: and love and joy, and just know that to be true.
18:53
Speaker 1: Then everything else that comes from this you can ask
18:56
Speaker 1: your questions on what you think is right and wrong.
18:58
Speaker 1: Those things are up for you to grapple within yourself,
19:01
Speaker 1: but just ask. Just if you hear anything in this
19:04
Speaker 1: podcast today, just leave knowing that if you have breath,
19:07
Speaker 1: you have value, um, and that we need you here.
19:12
Speaker 1: And if you feel super alone right now and all
19:17
Speaker 1: of it, UM, reach out to somebody, get some support
19:21
Speaker 1: and some help, because we just can't afford to keep
19:26
Speaker 1: this process going. If it comes treating men and women
19:30
Speaker 1: like their objects, when their kids, or if it is
19:34
Speaker 1: um going into a school and murdering innocent victims that
19:38
Speaker 1: if you look at their faces and you see their
19:40
Speaker 1: families and their stories, UM, if you just sit in
19:46
Speaker 1: that and you just know that, like what do you do?
19:50
Speaker 1: What do you say? And so yeah, I guess if
19:53
Speaker 1: you hear anything in this podcast, just know today, UM,
19:55
Speaker 1: when we do a host chat, I'm coming from a
19:57
Speaker 1: place of just trying to make sure that I personally,
20:01
Speaker 1: that you know personally Ashley, and that the people listening
20:04
Speaker 1: know that they just they got a lot of value
20:06
Speaker 1: and uh, and we need you to be your healthiest
20:09
Speaker 1: and best selves, um, because we just can't afford to
20:14
Speaker 1: keep going on this path. Well, we're gonna switch big
20:16
Speaker 1: gears here. Uh, We're going to take a break. We
20:20
Speaker 1: do a Bachelor headlines to breakdown. A lot of them
20:22
Speaker 1: are really I was reading through them. A lot of
20:24
Speaker 1: them are really encouraging this week. Some really exciting things
20:26
Speaker 1: happening with some of our friends, some people that we
20:28
Speaker 1: love and care about. I also know that Paradise is
20:31
Speaker 1: getting started up. I think Um being filmed. We're gonna
20:34
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that. So let's take a break,
20:37
Speaker 1: come back with the almost famous podcast. We're gonna break
20:39
Speaker 1: down Bachelor headlines. It is time for Bachelor headlines. Our
20:52
Speaker 1: first one is a big one for for me, and
20:55
Speaker 1: I know Ashley, Uh, you care about these people as well. Uh.
21:00
Speaker 1: It feels less personal to me than it did with you.
21:06
Speaker 1: Because I had a very short period of time with
21:10
Speaker 1: Becca kou Friend hosting Bachelorive on stage. She was dating
21:13
Speaker 1: Garrett at the time, so I got to see that
21:15
Speaker 1: relationship and also UM was around her as that ended
21:21
Speaker 1: right and she decided and I talked to her and
21:22
Speaker 1: she decided to go on Paradise. I remember that conversation.
21:25
Speaker 1: I remember when where was at When I got the
21:27
Speaker 1: phone call. She was like, should I do it or not. Um,
21:31
Speaker 1: you know, with you, I was sitting in the midst
21:34
Speaker 1: of like roller coaster of love and breakups for years
21:38
Speaker 1: and we're still doing it today. But for me, I'm
21:41
Speaker 1: just so happy for Becca because she is somebody that
21:43
Speaker 1: desires love once love. UH is trying to do the
21:47
Speaker 1: best she can with the platform she's been given. And
21:50
Speaker 1: here's the headline. Becca Kouffrin and Thomas Jacobs now are engaged.
21:55
Speaker 1: She had the ultimate plot twist, though he said yes
21:58
Speaker 1: this according to People magazine. Okay, well, I mean, if
22:02
Speaker 1: you're a Bachelor fan, you're listening to this podcast, you
22:04
Speaker 1: know that the two of them are engaged and that
22:06
Speaker 1: she was the one that proposed. But Ben, I need
22:08
Speaker 1: to know whether, like you are obviously closer to Becca
22:10
Speaker 1: than I am. So have you talked to her directly?
22:14
Speaker 1: So you didn't know that she was going to be
22:16
Speaker 1: the one proposing. I mean, I guess you wouldn't go
22:18
Speaker 1: around telling everybody this, But no, Um, I did text
22:22
Speaker 1: with her yesterday. I didn't know she was going to propose.
22:25
Speaker 1: I didn't know they were even getting engaged. I wasn't
22:26
Speaker 1: going to be shocked just seeing how they were together
22:30
Speaker 1: and then also, I think one of the big deals
22:34
Speaker 1: for me, I had already planned on proposing to Jessica
22:38
Speaker 1: during Batchel like after Bachelor I'm on stage, But that
22:41
Speaker 1: period of life is so hard because you're on the
22:43
Speaker 1: road and you're traveling and you're it's hectic. And when
22:46
Speaker 1: you have a partner that like supports you and leans
22:50
Speaker 1: in with you and relates with you, it brings you
22:53
Speaker 1: closer together. And I think Thomas just did a great
22:56
Speaker 1: job when Becca was on tour of being a great
22:58
Speaker 1: partner to her, and so I had I had a
23:00
Speaker 1: feeling this was going to happen sooner and later. I
23:02
Speaker 1: definitely had a feeling too. I mean, she's been talking
23:04
Speaker 1: about how she's going to marry him for a while now.
23:07
Speaker 1: She said it in the headline she said on her
23:08
Speaker 1: podcast she had she basically told me at your wedding,
23:12
Speaker 1: she just kind of telling everybody at your wedding that
23:14
Speaker 1: it was just a matter of time before it was
23:16
Speaker 1: going to be them one day. And that was so cool,
23:18
Speaker 1: And it's so cool that she was, you know, engaged
23:22
Speaker 1: twice through this franchise and then decided to go on
23:25
Speaker 1: The Bachelor in Paradise and a lot of people were like,
23:28
Speaker 1: you know, don't quote quote downgrade yourself. You were the lead,
23:32
Speaker 1: don't go on Bachelor in Paradise now, Well look when
23:34
Speaker 1: they got her. That is incredible. Um. Also, I think
23:40
Speaker 1: people started speculating that they were engaged when they went
23:43
Speaker 1: to Hawaii, I think like a week ago, and it
23:45
Speaker 1: just seemed like there's a vibe about their instagrams in
23:48
Speaker 1: Hawaii that seemed like they had been engaged, that that
23:53
Speaker 1: maybe they were getting engaged, that they had gotten engaged
23:55
Speaker 1: in Hawaii, and then they were like going to hide
23:57
Speaker 1: it for a few days. Um, but don't really have
24:00
Speaker 1: details right on where it happened. He said, it's a
24:03
Speaker 1: secret that they've been keeping between them close family and
24:06
Speaker 1: friends for quote a while, and now we're excited to
24:10
Speaker 1: shout it from the rooftops. I finally found my chauffeur
24:14
Speaker 1: for life and the one who makes my heart smile
24:16
Speaker 1: every single day. I can't wait to do it all
24:19
Speaker 1: with you, Tommy. Thanks for making me the happiest Galt alive.
24:21
Speaker 1: I love you to the moon and back. And yeah,
24:24
Speaker 1: so he has an engagement ring, even has a little
24:27
Speaker 1: dime into is an engagement ring. And she is also
24:31
Speaker 1: wearing a ring. Yeah, I kind of like here too.
24:34
Speaker 1: And I'm sure we are part of this group. I'm
24:36
Speaker 1: sure we were at some point in time or I
24:37
Speaker 1: don't know how much we we bought into the whole thing,
24:41
Speaker 1: but you know, he his story on the Bachelorette. You
24:45
Speaker 1: did buy into it. Men, we didn't. We know. We
24:48
Speaker 1: were like every week we're like really like keeping get
24:51
Speaker 1: some like some heavy proof as to why this guy's
24:54
Speaker 1: the villain. This doesn't make any sense. We're like, these
24:57
Speaker 1: guys just seem to be hating him for are like hearsay, okay,
25:02
Speaker 1: well that that that makes me feel better. I'm glad
25:04
Speaker 1: that's how we took it, because he just has really
25:06
Speaker 1: proved the haters wrong, like he's I mean, and not
25:09
Speaker 1: that he did got engaged Tobecca to prove him wrong.
25:12
Speaker 1: I doubt that's the I think that's the furthest thing
25:13
Speaker 1: from his mind right now. But if anybody was like
25:15
Speaker 1: questioning his intentions going on the show or questioning who
25:19
Speaker 1: he was as a person, he's now engaged one of
25:21
Speaker 1: the most beloved people from the franchise. Uh. He has
25:24
Speaker 1: been a tremendous partner to Becca. I know that personally
25:28
Speaker 1: they're very very happy together. Uh. And I mean, yes,
25:33
Speaker 1: it's been public because it is a public relationship because
25:36
Speaker 1: they have a falling, But they haven't done things that
25:40
Speaker 1: makes you go, wow, they're just in this for the
25:42
Speaker 1: fame of it. No. In fact, I would say they
25:44
Speaker 1: did the opposite, Like they broke up and then they
25:47
Speaker 1: got back together and they've kind of dated quietly. They've
25:50
Speaker 1: held this engagement off from telling the public for a while.
25:53
Speaker 1: I feel like that this is like one of the
25:55
Speaker 1: coolest stories that have came out of Paradise or the
25:58
Speaker 1: Bachelor franchise in a long time time, and it's one
26:00
Speaker 1: to definitely celebrate, really really cool story. And it's mind
26:04
Speaker 1: boggling to think that they got together a year ago.
26:07
Speaker 1: They've been dating for a year. It feels like yesterday.
26:11
Speaker 1: It does well, Uh, speaking of couples being together or not.
26:17
Speaker 1: The Bachelorte alum Michelle Young This is Wild refute claims
26:22
Speaker 1: that her and Nate have split after she was spotted
26:25
Speaker 1: without her ring. This according Las Weekly, So she was
26:29
Speaker 1: getting drinks or lunch or something with friends and she
26:33
Speaker 1: was spotted, like Ben said, without her ring um, and
26:37
Speaker 1: somebody put the video on the internet. I'm not sure
26:40
Speaker 1: whether or not they put it on the internet just
26:42
Speaker 1: saying like, look I saw Michelle out to lunch, or
26:45
Speaker 1: whether they were like, look I saw Michelle to lunch
26:47
Speaker 1: and she wasn't wearing her ring. But whatever happened she
26:50
Speaker 1: the video hit the internet and people saw that she
26:52
Speaker 1: wasn't wearing her ring, and it caused all these rumors
26:55
Speaker 1: that she and Nate had broken up. And then she
26:58
Speaker 1: took to Instagram and she was like, listen, you guys,
27:01
Speaker 1: I'm not a zoo animal. It's literally literally what she said, like,
27:04
Speaker 1: our relationship is not like a zoo exhibit. The reason
27:08
Speaker 1: that you see me in that video, which I can't believe,
27:10
Speaker 1: I'm like getting on here to explain, is that I
27:14
Speaker 1: took off my ring at that table, had my friend
27:18
Speaker 1: put it on her finger to just see what it
27:20
Speaker 1: looked like on her finger, because like, you know, she's
27:22
Speaker 1: a girl, and like girls love to like put engagement
27:25
Speaker 1: rings on her finger because like you like to pretend
27:26
Speaker 1: like we're engaged if we're not, and we'd like to
27:28
Speaker 1: see you know, different style rings and all that. She's like,
27:31
Speaker 1: So if you were like caring enough to take that
27:35
Speaker 1: video and point out the fact that I wasn't wearing
27:38
Speaker 1: my ring that you should be like caring enough to
27:41
Speaker 1: like make a point that I gave my ring across
27:44
Speaker 1: the table to my friend and then put it right
27:46
Speaker 1: back on. Yeah, so wild and so weird. Just that's small.
27:50
Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like such a small thing for
27:52
Speaker 1: her to have to explain. Well, hey, here's a big news.
27:56
Speaker 1: Tasia Adams will host the MTV Movie and TV Awards.
28:00
Speaker 1: This according to screen Ry, so this is a little
28:04
Speaker 1: bit of a misconstrued headline. She will be hosting part
28:07
Speaker 1: of the TV and Movie Awards. She's going to be
28:12
Speaker 1: doing the the reality portion. I believe. Yes, she will
28:18
Speaker 1: be hosting the MTV Movie and TV Awards unscripted, so
28:24
Speaker 1: it'll be the component of it that covers reality TV.
28:28
Speaker 1: But still like freaking amazing. Wow, Like, way to go, Tasia,
28:32
Speaker 1: that is so awesome. This is Paris Hilton. This week
28:41
Speaker 1: on the This is Paris podcast, NICKI and I will
28:44
Speaker 1: be joined by Anna Delby. You may think you know
28:47
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Speaker 1: real Anna? Is She a con artist and a fraudster
28:54
Speaker 1: or risk taking entrepreneur and audacious wanted that lover her
28:59
Speaker 1: or hate her, We're all curious. The real heiresses sit
29:02
Speaker 1: down with the fake heiress right now on This is Paris.
29:06
Speaker 1: Listen to This is Paris Now wherever you listen to podcasts.
29:12
Speaker 1: Well Ashley uh Here's headline about a friend beat the
29:16
Speaker 1: Bachelor lumb beck At Tilly talks about not identifying as
29:19
Speaker 1: a lesbian, and she dishes more on her romance with
29:22
Speaker 1: Hailey ki Yoko after finally confirming year long, years long relationship.
29:28
Speaker 1: This according to Daily Mail, So if you want to
29:31
Speaker 1: hear everything in anything that Becca is willing to share
29:34
Speaker 1: about her relationship with Haley, definitely head over to our
29:38
Speaker 1: like I want to cast a sister podcast, um Our,
29:40
Speaker 1: I heart our fellow, I heart podcast Scrubbing In with Beca,
29:43
Speaker 1: Tilly and Tanya ride So. On the podcast last week,
29:46
Speaker 1: she said, so, I was prepared for anything and everything,
29:49
Speaker 1: you know. Um. When she revealed her relationship with her,
29:51
Speaker 1: she goes, but I was not prepared for the amount
29:53
Speaker 1: of love and support that we got. Haley has really
29:56
Speaker 1: made me feel brave, and she was always like, people
29:59
Speaker 1: love you and they want to see you happy. Um.
30:02
Speaker 1: She also said, I've always said I'll go public. We
30:07
Speaker 1: can go public, if I can be in one of
30:09
Speaker 1: your videos, if I can be like the video girl. Um.
30:14
Speaker 1: She also said that, um, it was kind of she
30:19
Speaker 1: when the time came, she was just like, Okay, I
30:21
Speaker 1: think I'm ready. I think it's time. And that was,
30:23
Speaker 1: you know, four years after she had been in the relationship,
30:26
Speaker 1: and you know, like we said last week. I think
30:29
Speaker 1: we said this last week. Um. She never wants to
30:31
Speaker 1: be called secret, you know, she just wanted to be
30:33
Speaker 1: called like, the relationship is very private, and she said, like,
30:37
Speaker 1: we've always been very much ourselves. We've held hands in public,
30:40
Speaker 1: wee kiss if I meet someone. I always introduced Haley
30:43
Speaker 1: as my girlfriend. I've never been like, this is my
30:45
Speaker 1: friend or this is my best friend. I really made
30:47
Speaker 1: an effort to make sure that there was this distinction
30:50
Speaker 1: between private and secret. And she also said that, you know,
30:54
Speaker 1: this is as far as what you said the headline
30:56
Speaker 1: was saying. With her not identifying as a lesbian, she
30:59
Speaker 1: was leading up to this point, I was like, oh
31:01
Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm going to have to address like my sexuality,
31:04
Speaker 1: my label, and I was never concerned with that. She says,
31:10
Speaker 1: I think that my story is different from other people.
31:13
Speaker 1: She talks about her sister. She's my sisters when they've
31:16
Speaker 1: talked to me, Um, they've always said, I'm not I've
31:19
Speaker 1: never been attracted to men because Becca's sisters are lesbians.
31:24
Speaker 1: And she said they've always been very confident in who
31:27
Speaker 1: they were and that label meant something to them. So
31:31
Speaker 1: basically Becca is just not putting a label on her sexuality.
31:35
Speaker 1: Well it's uh, you know, I remember even talking to
31:38
Speaker 1: Colton and he's like, you know that once he came
31:41
Speaker 1: out publicly, there's a process to try to figure it
31:45
Speaker 1: all out, you know, figure out where you fit, what
31:47
Speaker 1: has to change, what doesn't change. And I think what
31:49
Speaker 1: you know Colton was telling us what we're hearing from
31:52
Speaker 1: Becca here is like nothing about you changes or has
31:55
Speaker 1: to change unless you wanted to. Um, I'm glad because
32:00
Speaker 1: I love Becca. I'm glad she's a good human. Care
32:04
Speaker 1: about her and uh it's good to see her. Um
32:08
Speaker 1: so happy and uh at peace. Well, Ashley, that's all
32:14
Speaker 1: the headlines we have for you today. We do have
32:17
Speaker 1: a final little note here. Uh it's not a headline
32:20
Speaker 1: as much as it just um this Kelly flanagain Peter
32:24
Speaker 1: thing continues to come up, um, over and over again.
32:29
Speaker 1: It's like once a year one of them says something
32:31
Speaker 1: about each other, good or bad. Well right now, Kelly
32:35
Speaker 1: Flann again says Peter Weber's romance was just fun in Games.
32:40
Speaker 1: I didn't look at him as my spouse that this
32:43
Speaker 1: according to US Weekly. I read this headline and I
32:47
Speaker 1: need you to break down this story for me, and
32:49
Speaker 1: I was like, well, okay, that's fine. They dated, they
32:54
Speaker 1: had fun, there was a quarantine relationship, I guess, but
32:57
Speaker 1: it's interesting to see it go to this boys like
33:00
Speaker 1: it was just funny games. I thought for a while
33:03
Speaker 1: it was very serious. We had him on the podcast.
33:04
Speaker 1: I thought it was a big thing for them. Yeah,
33:08
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, so she says in the podcast,
33:10
Speaker 1: she goes, um, I don't think there was one specific
33:13
Speaker 1: thing that led to the fall down. The downfall for
33:15
Speaker 1: me and Peter's a lot of little things. Um. Peter
33:18
Speaker 1: and I had a lot of fun. But I don't
33:20
Speaker 1: know if I looked up to him in the way
33:22
Speaker 1: that I wanted to look up to my spouse, she said. Um.
33:26
Speaker 1: She continued to compare Pete to the men and her family.
33:30
Speaker 1: She said, I have this with my brothers and my dad,
33:32
Speaker 1: where if I'm in a moment where I need some
33:36
Speaker 1: sound advice and look for and to look and look
33:41
Speaker 1: for who to go to on important decisions, like she
33:45
Speaker 1: goes to her dad and her brother's for important decisions.
33:48
Speaker 1: But Peter it was just fun in games, she said.
33:51
Speaker 1: I could have fun with him, but I wanted more
33:54
Speaker 1: of a man that I look up to. I just
33:57
Speaker 1: didn't look up to Peter in the way that I
33:59
Speaker 1: always hoped that I would look up to my husband
34:01
Speaker 1: who couch h Yeah, well that's all we have for
34:07
Speaker 1: you today. Thank you, uh for listening to me get
34:11
Speaker 1: something off my chest. It's been a weird week, and
34:14
Speaker 1: this is a good place, UM where I get to
34:16
Speaker 1: come and talk with you, Ashley and everybody listening, and
34:19
Speaker 1: your feedback and your insights from the listeners are always
34:22
Speaker 1: very UM welcomed and important. UH. We hope you here, UM,
34:28
Speaker 1: have a great week, enjoy the shortened work week if
34:32
Speaker 1: you have one, UH, and that we'll be back next
34:35
Speaker 1: week to talk to you once again. Until then, I've
34:38
Speaker 1: been been. It's always a pleasure, Ben, I've been Ashley. Thanks.
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