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Mac & Bone Hour 4: Adding to the Panthers Roster · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ mackin Bone with you
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  Speaker 1: nine o'clockers. Welcome aboard. We got one more hour Togo.
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  Speaker 1: We got Panther talk coming up at nine to twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: With Darren Waller being added to the roster at tight end,
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  Speaker 1: we definitely need to discuss is there another move they
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  Speaker 1: need to be making before we kick this season off
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  Speaker 1: for reals? Is there another position? There's definitely two I
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  Speaker 1: think are in contention where you feel like they've got
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  Speaker 1: to get a boost like they've done at tight ends.
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  Speaker 1: So we definitely will talk about that as well coming
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  Speaker 1: up at nine to twenty five. But Charles Lee, Hornets
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  Speaker 1: head coach, expected to be here in the next couple
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  Speaker 1: of minutes and talk a little Hornets fsketball with us
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 2: Cannot wait for that Mac. We will go game by
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  Speaker 2: game all eighty two games with the coach league and
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  Speaker 2: see what he tells us about each individual matchup. You're
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  Speaker 2: coming up to guess kidding, of course.
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  Speaker 1: Those Wizards, those Wizards, that Wizard's game on November twenty eighth.
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  Speaker 3: How you gonna play that one that's in mid March? Coach?
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  Speaker 3: What's what's the strategy? Here for that one, and I
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  Speaker 3: can't wait.
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  Speaker 1: We wizard you were talking about, does Dion definitely deserve
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  Speaker 1: to be on this list?
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  Speaker 3: Bone?
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  Speaker 1: I just noticed his coaching stuff's included to we're I'm
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  Speaker 1: going back to the super Villains of College Football All
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  Speaker 1: Time list that Ryan McGee did. Google it. It's a
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  Speaker 1: very cool, entertaining list. Not not perfect in our eyes.
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  Speaker 1: Came to Williams Urban May, but he included Dion's coaching. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: playing and coaching combination is what he's going with.
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  Speaker 2: Feels like Caleb Williams was one that was a recent one.
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  Speaker 2: That's a little bit of a stretch there. Based off
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  Speaker 2: the reasoning, I feel like we gave many more examples
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  Speaker 2: of players and coaches that were more appropriate. I think
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  Speaker 2: Nick Caleb Williams was.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I thought Jamis was very villainous at FSU. We don't
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  Speaker 2: think of him that way now, but he was involved
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  Speaker 2: in a lot of stuff. He was a very controversial
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  Speaker 2: legs yep, oh yeah, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 1: I think the Caleb Williams case he makes is that
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  Speaker 1: he left Lincoln, went with Lincoln Riley from Oklahoma to
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  Speaker 1: USC got a ton of NIO cash, started national TV ads.
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  Speaker 1: It was when it was still something we'd never seen before.
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  Speaker 1: And then he brings up that game where he cried
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  Speaker 1: in his mom's arms or whatever, and people hated on
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  Speaker 1: him for that. Like, don't get me wrong, I think
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  Speaker 1: he was perceived as different. I mean he had to fingernails.
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  Speaker 1: I think he was perceived as different. Yeah, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: a little maybe a little bit of arrogance there or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, by no means what I've ever guessed in
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  Speaker 1: a million years that that McGee would put him top
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  Speaker 1: ten all times.
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  Speaker 2: Supervillain to the guy college football and took the guy
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  Speaker 2: that too, Christian light Near. Two things here. Number one,
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  Speaker 2: pay attention, it was a college Paul list. Number two,
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  Speaker 2: we're talking villains, not the best player in college history.
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  Speaker 3: All right, there's another one. You have so many villains.
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  Speaker 1: Although you fairness, you didn't root for Duke when Laightner
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  Speaker 1: was there, but's.
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  Speaker 3: On your list.
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  Speaker 2: But I now, I now, I now kiss the ring
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  Speaker 2: and I understand Lightner well part of the family. Now
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  Speaker 2: I understand cousin Christian was a little different.
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  Speaker 5: I thought it was a brotherhood, not a family, get
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  Speaker 5: it right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, well it's you know what I mean? Shut up?
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  Speaker 3: The right, Bunny down.
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  Speaker 2: All right, don't you get you got these people all
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  Speaker 2: riled up with the text wine right now? All right,
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  Speaker 2: we need Charles Lee. This is so funny. I'm looking
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  Speaker 2: at Grayson Allen Christian to take good as coaches. Here
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  Speaker 2: hear that T shirt? He's rocking right there, Sir Moose
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  Speaker 2: on the loose. Yeah, shout out here, tallins moo.
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  Speaker 3: There we go, baby.
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  Speaker 1: Charles Lee is in the house, and Bone is very
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  Speaker 1: happy Bone because I was getting ready to read the
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  Speaker 1: College Basketball Time Villain's List and it was gonna be
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  Speaker 1: about four your favorites, coach Man.
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  Speaker 2: I want to hear these my guy, Christian Laightner Man
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  Speaker 2: still Grayson Allen Christian later Ner coach king, we're a
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six man.
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  Speaker 3: Move on man, well, y'all.
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  Speaker 4: Guy.
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  Speaker 3: The guy was a huge part of the dream Team.
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  Speaker 6: I was in that thirty for thirty that ESPN did
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  Speaker 6: on him, like unbelievable, right, And I grew up actually
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  Speaker 6: a Bullets Wizards fan, being in the DNB area and
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  Speaker 6: so like we had a little late in time.
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  Speaker 1: Uh during guy became an All Star. Yeah, one duke
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  Speaker 1: guy that will not be on a villain's list. Is
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  Speaker 1: Kanka nipple though. Man, everybody loves them. Some kind Get
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  Speaker 1: my man Grayson Allen off that list too. Oh that's right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm right, get him.
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  Speaker 6: If actually forgot the coach, that's my bad.
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  Speaker 3: Coach. I had a slip there and forgot that he
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  Speaker 3: was one of us. Now I got to defend it.
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  Speaker 3: Must have slipped and hit your head. How am I
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  Speaker 3: hosting a sports show in Charlotte? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Man, coach, coach for setting this thing straight around. Good
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  Speaker 1: to have you here. You're already regularly, You're already coaching me.
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  Speaker 1: You know it never stops. I coach at home.
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  Speaker 3: I got a coach here at the radio station Mount too.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Forward to it though. Oh man, so
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  Speaker 1: let's u we there's so much. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you noticed. It was kind of event for y'all. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it has been. Jeff Peterson definitely.
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  Speaker 6: We were busy this offseason, and so I think that
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  Speaker 6: the Hornets got better. And obviously change is going to
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  Speaker 6: be tough for some people, but I think overall the
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  Speaker 6: mindset is, how do we just keep moving this thing
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  Speaker 6: in the right direction. The Carolinas deserves a really good
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  Speaker 6: basketball product, and we want to have something that sustainable
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  Speaker 6: and I think that we can a year after year
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  Speaker 6: be competing in the playoffs for a championship. And so
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  Speaker 6: that's the road that we're going down, and we'd love
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  Speaker 6: the support that we've actually gotten.
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  Speaker 1: So let me let's let's talk about what the team
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  Speaker 1: will be like. Now, there's no no sense in going
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  Speaker 1: backwards and like why was this done? Plus you'll just
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  Speaker 1: tell us Jeff did it? Never George, So you're now
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  Speaker 1: coaching this team. You still got a pretty darn good
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  Speaker 1: league guard in Kobe White.
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  Speaker 4: This just in.
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  Speaker 3: But the Lamela thing that gets me is man the
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  Speaker 3: gravity that he had.
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  Speaker 1: Guys would be drawn, he'd kick it day, you'd swing
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  Speaker 1: it open threes and he would create Are you worried
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  Speaker 1: that that kind of stuff will not be there?
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  Speaker 3: With that?
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  Speaker 6: Like?
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  Speaker 3: How do you make up for it? I guess with
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  Speaker 3: the roster you have.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, first and foremost super appreciative of everything that obviously
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  Speaker 6: like Mellow and Miles and Josh have given to our team.
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  Speaker 6: I tell everyone from day one, from year one, the
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  Speaker 6: people that we had on that group helped us, like
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  Speaker 6: they impacted our environment, our culture, they impacted the product
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  Speaker 6: that we put on the court, and I think just
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  Speaker 6: year after year we keep getting better. They helped me
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  Speaker 6: be a better coach and so super grateful for all
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  Speaker 6: their contributions and commitment to the team. But I do
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  Speaker 6: think moving forward, we were a top five offense last year,
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  Speaker 6: and yes, Melo was a piece of that, and Josh
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  Speaker 6: and Miles, but also Kobe was a part of it,
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  Speaker 6: and Brandon was a part of it in Musa and
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  Speaker 6: all these things, and so I still see so much
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  Speaker 6: depth and versatility from this group coming back. I think
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  Speaker 6: that not only are they going to take steps forward,
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  Speaker 6: but they also understands the importance of like what made
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  Speaker 6: us good, and they understand that all the ball movement
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  Speaker 6: is what really I thought Tolka our offense to another
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  Speaker 6: level last year. We were able to create some of
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  Speaker 6: the most catch and shoot threes. I think that between
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  Speaker 6: Moosa's offensive rebounding and created extra possessions for us. I
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  Speaker 6: think our defense got better last year and all of
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  Speaker 6: a sudden move up to middle of the pack defensively
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  Speaker 6: helped us get out and run a lot more So,
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  Speaker 6: our returning players understand the recipe for success offensively. And
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  Speaker 6: then I think you add in some guys that obviously
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  Speaker 6: add more gravity and hopefully create more space for us
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  Speaker 6: to be able to get downhill and Kobe's phenomenal getting
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  Speaker 6: downhill and getting fouled and creating some bockets there. Nas
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  Speaker 6: Reed has been in the Western Conference finals multiple times,
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  Speaker 6: and he's a physical force and great size and athleticism.
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  Speaker 6: So I actually think that we'll be able to make
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  Speaker 6: some great strides offensively and defensively this year with this group.
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  Speaker 2: We have said for a while now we're not the
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  Speaker 2: only ones, but we're looked at, Hey, what's next for
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  Speaker 2: this team. We've often brought up the name nas Reed
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  Speaker 2: for your system and your offense. We've said that name before.
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  Speaker 2: So you just mentioned him there to us. When you listen,
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  Speaker 2: you've watched him before. I'm sure you've thought, man, that's
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  Speaker 2: a guy that fits so well into what you want
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  Speaker 2: to do. Offensively, you're spot on, and you know going
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  Speaker 2: up against him, he's been to the sixth Man of
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  Speaker 2: the Year, played a pivotal role on their playoff teams.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said previously, I thought last year one of
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  Speaker 2: the things that we struggled with sometimes was like the
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  Speaker 2: physicality of the game and when you bring in a
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  Speaker 2: person like him, who's played in high level playoff games
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  Speaker 2: and understands what that competitive level is going to look
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  Speaker 2: like and feel like. And he's still able to operate
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  Speaker 2: at a high level. It's huge, and so I think
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  Speaker 2: that he's going to stretch the floor for us. He
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  Speaker 2: shoots a great percentage from three. I think he could
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  Speaker 2: be another ball handler to help us initiate offense. He's
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  Speaker 2: played some pick and roll with the likes of Julius
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  Speaker 2: Randall and Towns and go Baar, and so he adds
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  Speaker 2: that element to our offense. And you know, if you
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  Speaker 2: ever had a situation where you're playing a team that
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  Speaker 2: goes small, he has the versatility to play some five
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  Speaker 2: or we can go big and.
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  Speaker 6: Throw him out there and Musa and Grant and I
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  Speaker 6: love the optionality that we have with this team right now.
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  Speaker 2: You also has a big jelly. So nickname is big Jelly. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: he was part of this like internet finger roll movement
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  Speaker 2: back in the mid two thousand, so his date.
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  Speaker 3: So you got a moosa in a big jelly. Now
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  Speaker 3: up front?
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  Speaker 6: How about that something here? Every time I come with
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  Speaker 6: you learned something there?
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  Speaker 3: You go, well, you reminded me Grayson's on the team.
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  Speaker 1: Which I should not be forgetting momentarily, and we teach
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  Speaker 1: you nickname set Grayson Thingrember.
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  Speaker 3: I love him now, he shouldn't be on this villain's list.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you. I'm ana write.
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  Speaker 1: A letter report when we get done. You mention you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned the physicality. I was watching the Orlando playing game
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  Speaker 1: and I'm yelling at my TV. The first thing I'm
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  Speaker 1: yelling is how is Orlando being able to play that physical?
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  Speaker 1: But it's most season right. The other thing, too, it
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  Speaker 1: starts to dawn on me, and you guys all said
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  Speaker 1: it afterwards, is man, we are getting pushed around as
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  Speaker 1: a team, right, Like if the game does play like that,
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  Speaker 1: and in the postseason it often does, you got to
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  Speaker 1: be able to handle it.
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  Speaker 3: How has that come along?
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  Speaker 1: I've seen so many of the different shots of like
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  Speaker 1: Moosa's workout and guys in the gym, it seems like
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  Speaker 1: dudes look different, Like it seems like they have all
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  Speaker 1: taken the message.
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  Speaker 6: You're spot on, And that's what's so great about this group.
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  Speaker 6: They're committed. They're a prideful group. They really have the
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  Speaker 6: mindset of like they want to get better every day
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  Speaker 6: and they're looking for like how can I get that
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  Speaker 6: competitive edge on my opponent, and how can I elevate
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  Speaker 6: the guy next to me to also want to have
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  Speaker 6: that competitive edge? Which has been really cool to see.
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  Speaker 6: We've had so many guys in the gym during the
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  Speaker 6: off season, and so their relationships are building.
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  Speaker 3: They're obviously getting better.
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  Speaker 6: Our strength and performance staff and our coaching staff or
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  Speaker 6: pushing them to the brink and preparing them for the season.
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  Speaker 6: But I've been proud of this group because I think
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  Speaker 6: that they're proud of the progress we made, but we're
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  Speaker 6: pissed off at how the season ended. And so this
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  Speaker 6: group has taken that message, I think, to heart and
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  Speaker 6: it shows in their work. And like you said, you
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  Speaker 6: see these videos of Musa working out. I think we've
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  Speaker 6: seen some pictures and videos of Tjong with his shirt
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  Speaker 6: off nowadays. He walks around the facay like that all
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  Speaker 6: the time too. But if I had a body like that,
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  Speaker 6: I would probably do the same. That's what Bone looks
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  Speaker 6: like he does all the time around there.
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  Speaker 2: I just put on, well you got here, we've seen
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  Speaker 2: Mossa working on his handles.
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  Speaker 3: Also, how can we right now?
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  Speaker 6: He might I might have to slow him down on
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  Speaker 6: that front, but he's got to expand his game at
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  Speaker 6: some point. But I do think, like you said, the
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  Speaker 6: physicality of the game not only does it happened in
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  Speaker 6: the postseason. I think that the league wide, even during
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  Speaker 6: the regular season, we're seeing more full core pressure. We're
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  Speaker 6: seeing more physicality allowed in the regular season. I think
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  Speaker 6: that's helping prepare you for that moment, and I think
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  Speaker 6: that our guys are going to be a little bit
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  Speaker 6: more ready for it because we can play a fast
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  Speaker 6: game and when we get people off of our bodies,
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  Speaker 6: we can We're really skilled, We're really talented. But uh,
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  Speaker 6: you know, when you go up against the top ranked
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  Speaker 6: teams in the NBA, they're going to try to push
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  Speaker 6: you off your spots to take you out of your offense.
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  Speaker 6: And I think we'll be able to combat that a
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  Speaker 6: little bit better this year. And some of that's on
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  Speaker 6: the coach as well to put them in better positions.
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  Speaker 2: How ready are How ready are Brandon Miller and con
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  Speaker 2: for the next level of leadership that you're going to
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  Speaker 2: ask for.
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  Speaker 6: They've been great, and it's a great question as two
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  Speaker 6: young players that not only are focused on their own
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  Speaker 6: individual games improving, Uh, they got to realize how do
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  Speaker 6: I bring the rest of the group with me, and
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  Speaker 6: you know, just their presence in the gym every day
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  Speaker 6: brings a level of consistency, you know, talking to them, Uh,
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  Speaker 6: there's there's more room in there's more space that needs
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  Speaker 6: to be taken up in the room without some bigger
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  Speaker 6: personalities in there right now, and so they have to
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  Speaker 6: find their voice and they've done that with the communication.
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  Speaker 6: Like Brandon, he's you know, going through his rehab process
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  Speaker 6: right now, but he stayed for all the summer league
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  Speaker 6: practices and during the summer league practices he's talking to
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  Speaker 6: Christian and he's talking to Hannas, and he's talking to
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  Speaker 6: Michael and stuff. So I loved watching that con has
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  Speaker 6: has taken He's taken up golf a little bit, and
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  Speaker 6: so he's also taken some guys out on the golf course,
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  Speaker 6: and so it stretches not only on the court, but
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  Speaker 6: I think these guys recognize the importance of it off
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  Speaker 6: the court too. When you can build these relationships and bonds,
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  Speaker 6: it helps you in the toughest moments on the court
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  Speaker 6: as well.
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  Speaker 2: That's all you are in the golf brotherhood thing is
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  Speaker 2: it's a duke thing. Everything that it's an all around thing.
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  Speaker 6: Everyone loves him some golf. It's unbelievable, the brotherhood, the
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  Speaker 6: rest of those bringing out the other people out there.
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  Speaker 6: That's a that's a that's a duke gear. One thing
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  Speaker 6: to check you on that.
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  Speaker 3: I was trying to give my Duke guy.
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  Speaker 6: It's a hard time even though he is wearing a
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  Speaker 6: Duke cat today. Yeah, he's a loyal man. I forget
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  Speaker 6: see also part of this too, uh huh. He's got
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  Speaker 6: to work on his golf game.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I love the guy. He is a phenomenal competitor.
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  Speaker 2: Were laughing last year at one of the the Hornets
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  Speaker 2: shows that they put out where I think it was
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  Speaker 2: the last year where Mellow was out there and he
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  Speaker 2: asked his teammates where he's supposed to hit the ball?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes, he said, where do I hit it?
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  Speaker 6: Now?
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  Speaker 4: Like you you go?
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  Speaker 3: That was That was good? All right?
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  Speaker 1: So the the Median narratives are out there like there's
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  Speaker 1: first of all, and I don't know if you pay
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  Speaker 1: any attention to this, she probably shouldn't care what we
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  Speaker 1: are saying. We don't know the halfway, you know, But
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  Speaker 1: like nationally, I mean, dang near everybody loves what Jeff
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  Speaker 1: has been doing, loves the direction right acquiring assets, but
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  Speaker 1: still getting a guy like nas Reed re signing Kobe
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  Speaker 1: even though you treye Lamel and all that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: The guys from Phoenix, Grason, you know, included guys you
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  Speaker 1: picked up there could be good role players. But it
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  Speaker 1: seems like they all say this though, they will take
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  Speaker 1: a step back now, but they'll take a step forward
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  Speaker 1: into long term. Well, you're coaching this year's team. They're
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  Speaker 1: not waiting until for three years and then they bring
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  Speaker 1: you in. Do you take that personally? And hear like, no,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be that way, Like, do you
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  Speaker 1: do you feel like that the people are a little
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  Speaker 1: wrong on that?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I definitely don't take it personal. Everyone is entitled
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  Speaker 6: to their opinions. And one of the things that we
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  Speaker 6: talk about a ton as a team is there's always
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  Speaker 6: gonna be a lot of noise. And you know, in
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  Speaker 6: this day and age of social media and all the
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  Speaker 6: different outlets and streaming and serious and XM radio, you
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: almost can't escape it. But I will say that I
• 15:03
  Speaker 6: think we do a great job internally of creating our
• 15:05
  Speaker 6: own expectations and standards and so while we hear that stuff,
• 15:10
  Speaker 6: we embrace it in a sense, but no, that's not
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: what's going to ultimately drive us. And so I'm looking
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: forward to, like you said, coaching this year's team, understanding
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: that we have a really good group. I think, a
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: smart group, a competitive group. Kobe White said it in
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: the media, and so like, I love when the guys
• 15:27
  Speaker 6: say things, and I'll usually piggyback what they say and
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: support them because if they're saying it, that's what they're
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: actually focused on trying to do and try to accomplish.
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: And he said, we're going to shock some people, and
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: so I'm with Kobe. We'll shock some people. Will be
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: better than people realize. But ultimately we have to create
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: our own expectations and standards of how we want to
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: operate within our hive.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: And that's what's really going to drive us throughout the
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: whole year.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: We know we've got to let you go here in
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: a second, but when the schedule is released, as a coach,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: what's the first thing that your eyes gravitate towards.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: What are you looking for?
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: Is it?
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Is it back to back?
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: What is coach league gets that schedule? What your eyes
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: going towards. First of all, I'm hyped because that means
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: we're getting a little bit closer to like at this
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: time in training camp and and and the nitty gritty
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: of it all because there's been so much preparation on
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: on the coaching side staff but also the players side too.
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: But then I look, where's that first game? Should we
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: start working on our scouting report right now so we
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: can make sure we win that first game. And so
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: to see we're gonna start on the road versus Brooklyn
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: was cool to see. Obviously played them last year at
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: home for the first game. Really good team, They've made
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: some changes to their roster.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Then after that, I'm looking to see where's our home opener.
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: We the vibe that we had in that arena last
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: year to finish with that Miami game and obviously Kobe's
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: big shot, the arena going crazy from the jump, but
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: from the introductions to the end of the game was
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: dope to see. So I'm like, when can we get
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: back in there? I want that feeling again. So to
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: come home and see that we got it back to
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: back right after that Brooklyn game is really cool. Then
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: the next month I look to see, like when are
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: we on the West coast, Like, when's that first West
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: Coast trip? And it comes in November, and the end
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: of that three game West Coast road trip, we have
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: to end up playing our first NBA Cup game, which
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: I'm also excited to see, and that's going to be
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: on the road in Atlanta, which will be a tough game.
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: And then after that, I'm like, Okay, what's that next
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: like tough streak that we got to be ready for.
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: And again it's in January, and I think, well, we
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: have sixteen games in January. I think thirteen of them
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: are on the road something like that, and so that
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: that's going to build some like character and resiliency, and
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: we'll see like where the camaraderie of the group is
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: and everything, and then where we after all start break,
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: like what's going on and how do we need to
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: manage that as players as staff, And we open up
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: with a back to back on the road, which will
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: be kind of tough for us. And then at the
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: end of the season, you're like, okay, as you're trying
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: to work on seating and where are you our April
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: we have seven games and five of them are on
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: the road, So that'll be a little tough stretch as well.
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: So isay a lot of challenges that we're looking forward
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: to as a pregame show host for the Hornets. I
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: look at what games our past my bedtime.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: That's what I like. It's just four o'clock. No, no,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: that's dinner time.
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, anything anything, even the Dallas tip off eight o'clock.
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: It's a problem. Yeah, the last one too. Christmas, like
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: especially having three kids. Now, I did look at Christmas
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: and we are on the road right before Christmas and
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: right after Christmas.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: That's not good for you and the family. Well we'll
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: figure it out. But you're a sicko though. I mean
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: this in a good way. Like I can see you're
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: getting so excited thinking about like training camp, Like you're
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: not a dude that's like, yeah, I love this off
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: season time.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Like you are ready to go. Let's do it.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: How's Brandon? I know, we gotta let you go real quick.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: How's Brandon's shoulder? He is making great progress.
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: Uh, he's actually in the stage now where he was
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: doing a little running, he's doing a little bit of shooting.
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: So day by day he has approached it with a
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: great mindset and stuff and and he's in a really
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: good spot.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: So you tell you guarantee he plays in the openers,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: I guarantee to get him. Don't do that. I tried
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: to get it. He's smooth. Brian Travis at PR, guy
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: doesn't even have to worry you. Smooth. He is making progress.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: We will play it. That's good to hear. Man. Hey,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: it's good to have you here, coach.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: We appreciate and look forward to you guys joining the
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Charlotte sports landscape again.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: We get you going. Man, great to see you guys.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I'm textally caught about golf right now.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Hey, why weren't you on the golf trip? I don't know.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: I need to off my number. There you go. That
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: is Charles Lee or Charlotte Hornace.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: By the way, biggest news of the week might have
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: been that every game that's not a national TV game
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: is on over the air TV on SCTV or sixty four.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: They will be so readily available this year. So that's
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: certainly awesome news. Thanks to Charles Lee for joining us
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: here on the Mack and Bone Show. When we come back,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: we shifted back to the Carolina Panthers. They made the
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: move Bone to bring in Darren Waller, so that takes
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: care of the tight end need. Is there another position
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: that should be next up? They address we'll talk about
• 19:49
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• 20:07
  Speaker 7: Really just the routecraft. I remember evaluating him as a
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: white out coming out of Georgia Tech and then making
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: the transition to tight end. It took him a couple
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: of years to settle into the position, but he improved
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: his routecraft. He's fast, He's six foot six and a half,
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: so he really creates a dynamic possibility. And again, you know,
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: this is a competition. You know, he knows that, he
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: understands that that's part of this deal and how we're
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: trying to challenge our roster. So talked to him last
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: night and you know he's fired up to come here
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: and to meet the guys.
• 20:38
  Speaker 8: There you go.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Coach Canal is talking about what Darren Waller brings to
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: this team. Trayvon Merhrick was his teammate in Vegas. He
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: was raving about the combination of size and speed the
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: this dude brings and yeah, he's not at his physical best,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: but we're not exactly bone loaded to tight end position
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: and j T. Sanders is clearly the one that it
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: feels like when coach Canalo says this move is to
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: challenge the tight end, room kind of feels like it's
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: one seat in the room and it's JT. Sanders, And
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I think there's a very good chance Waller h wins
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: that job. And if they keep Felipe Franks, which I
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: think they should for special teams have to as the
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: four tight end, I think it's gonna leave Sanders out,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: but we'll see Sanders got a big chance. That'll be
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: one of the things we watch for tomorrow bone is
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: how does Sanders respond. We know he responded on Instagram
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: with a Bible verse. We know that that is how
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: he literally responded, But how does he respond in game
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: action to Mara against the Bills.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: That's gonna be That's gonna be something to watch.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I know that conversation with Brenson Batner yesterday, who was
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: in Vegas coaching on the staff when Waller had his
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: best years, and yes it's been a little bit of time,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: but he was talking about just what an absolute when
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: he's healthy, when he's on what a matchup nightmare, and
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: how he completely alters the defense is that the opponents
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: have to play. They got to go more safety, they
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: got to change personnel. When he is right, he completely
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: changes everything matchup wise. You try to cover him with
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: a linebacker, and I think that still stands today. You
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: try to cover him with a linebacker, you're gonna be
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: in trouble. To Buck's point, So I'm excited about that edition.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I really am man. By the way, I wanted to
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: point out real quick before we get into the topic.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Here.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Hornet's single game tickets on sale ten am tomorrow at
• 22:22
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• 22:26
  Speaker 2: available there you go, all right, A lot of text
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: on coach Lee. Love his energy, man, love his energy,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: and they should feel like, hey, let's you know what
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, let's let's they should rally beyond everybody thinking, yeah,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: they're taking a step back. They should. They should rally
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: behind that man. Sam Farber and Charles Lee pickleball partners.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I would love to see the energy in a Farber
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Charles Lee pickleball contest. Oh man, I should, we should,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: We could have got into that rivalry. I'd love to
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: know some details on that one.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: That's the most positive pickleball game ever played by the
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: way has to be. Did you have you watched the
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Pickleball movie on Apple TV? The Dink?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: I have not.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: It wasn't bad.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: It's kind of cheesy, but like at times. Have you
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: watched what I liked it on Netflix with Will fer Yeah?
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: I can't. I don't know. I think I'm I think
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I'm more of a dink guy than a hot guy.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I just I don't know about I don't know. I
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: trust Apple more with stuff than I do Netflix sometimes
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Apple Apple don't miss man? Am I I knew Kevin
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Hard movie where he where he goes and hangs out
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: with the college age kids.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, I hadn't seen that one? Absolutely seventy two hours
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: or whatever? Yeah?
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely hurt. That was good, awful. I it's terrible bad,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: That's bad, all right, never mind, I just put that
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: off the list. But that's is that Netflix? Or is
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: that Apple too? That's Netflix? Nefinlick, Okay.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: I I don't know.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I don't have faith in Will Ferrell right now. I
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: don't really feel like bone Will Ferrell's in his prime?
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Am I wrong to say that? The Maybe I've just
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: maybe I've just kind of.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Ferled out the Farrell Sandler, Kevin Hard movies where they're
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: contracted ya, Netflix or whatever they are now, especially Hard
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: and Handler. They're they're not hitting, really, they're not. They're
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: not good Man. Sandler's movies are rough too.
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: On there.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: People are loving on the Hawk though, Husky pants Redhead one. Meanwhile,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I got no Dink fans. There's not one Ding fan.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: No one's seen this Dnk, this pickleball tennis movie. Now
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: walk them Down says the Hawk sucks though, so there
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: is a polarizing opinion. All Right, if I go too
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: long in this bone, we'll be talking. We'll be on
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Tangentville in a TV streaming conversation for the next ten minutes.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: So I can't. We got to refocus here.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I will say this coming up, though, we have had
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: some people that are tar Heel fans text us and
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: say that there's too much tar Heel negativity, that even
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Fitty is somebody said the other day, even Fitty doesn't
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: give me any tar Heel football positivity. Will we have
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: found your man complainer in chief has been texting I
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: believe us and KB talking about how good the Heels
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: will be, how good Belichick will end up being when
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: it's all said and done, you and see and he
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: said that will beat Miami and Louisville this season.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I added those odd during the course of the day
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: when I talked to him, he was beating Duke in
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Virginia and East Tennessee State. Once kV got on the game,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: then he added Miami, and then he added Louisville by
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: the end of this segment. Now he may have the
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: beating Ohio stay at the end of the season.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: He's coming on at nine to five. He is the
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: director of Tar Heel Football positivity.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: That is his job.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: We're not sure anybody else is in his department bone,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: but he will stand up for tar Heel football honor
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: at nine to forty five.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: He did this last year also, Oh, he tried it
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: last year. I forgot all.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: It was all fired up over every player that they
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: got in the bordal last year, and then he went
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: away for the whole season, which was blame season.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: By the way, when he went away, I don't blame
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: him all. Right, let's let's talk about Okay, so Waller
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: is here. That's the tight end position that so many
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: of us said, why didn't you do anything during the
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: offseason at tight end. Now, I asked the question, what's
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the next position bone where you kind of feel and
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: there's two to me that are definitely candidates. What's the
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: next position that you and Panther fans out there listening
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: would like to see them make another move at before
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: we start the real games.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, it has to be linebacker, no doubt about it.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I don't feel comfortable with Wallace or cheerilists. No love
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Devin Lloyd, but he can't do it by himself. They
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: desperately need back. I would say linebacker even if one
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: of those guys was playing decently, because just because the
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: depth of that spot there, I think linebacker is a
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: major We see who doesn't make the roster somewhere else
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: and hopefully you find some found money. But I think
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: linebacker is a spot in general that worries me to death.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: I think, though not Lloyd, but the other guys.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I think linebacker and edge are the two spots that
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I would think of first with this.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I actually think we didn't worry as much about those
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: when this whole thing started because Scorrton was there. We
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: thought Wallace could do a good enough job there to be,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: you know, the robin to the batman of Devin Lloyd.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I still because edge is a more important position in
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: the modern game.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I just believe that.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Now you could argue Bone that we got Pat Jones
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: to start opposite Phillips, and that's better than your point
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: will probably be that's better situation than we have at linebacker,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: and I would agree with you on that. But at
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: linebacker we do have Devin Lloyd. I think Devin Lloyd
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: will make that person next to them better by his presence.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Last year, Bone, we had Wallace chair lists at all next.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: To Rose Boom.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: That's why I think it's that position, that middle of
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the field stuck out like a sore thumb. Now we've
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: got Devin Lloyd running the show, mentoring these guys and
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: covering so much ground.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: I still go back to edge. I still would like
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: to add an edge to the mix.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Now, I'll say this, getting edge help is probably harder
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: than getting an off ball linebacker this time of year,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: right Like that is such a commodity in the sport
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: that they are probably not avail and not as easy
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: to get into trade. I still go back to can
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: you trade for Alex Highsmith? But Dan Morgan kind of
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: indirectly shot me down about that and said, hey, things
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: like that, you bring players in, it cost your money
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: in the salary cap, it cost you draft picks and.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Stuff like that.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: But I also think bone at linebacker. We do a
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: lot of bringing Merry up as a second middle linebacker
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: and bring Ransom in at safety. So I think there
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: are ways you can work around having these guys at linebacker.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I'm still worried about. I'm just worried about the edge thing.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Is Princely ready to step up because we need him to.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Now we know Bobby o'carak is still out there back
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: by the way. He is, hey, a turnover machine. He's
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: just entering his age thirty season. The Giants moved on
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: from him because they signed to Maine Edmonds to a
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: big deal. But that's a guy that you know, we
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: said Bobby Wagner, who's obviously older than him. But o'cara
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: kay would be a big upgrade over what they have
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: right now. A lot of people are asking about Giants captain.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: By the way, I pay eleven hundred something snaps last
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: year he did a lot of fans are asking about
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Shaq Thompson. Shack also is out there. Shaq only played
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: four him seventeen snaps last year. He's obviously older than
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: o'kaack is. Bony Shack is surprisingly because, like Bobby Wagner
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: is another name we keep getting. Bobby Wagner is doing
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: what you expect old dudes at linebacker to do. He's
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: still holding up against the run really well, but coverage,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: which used to be a real strength for him, is
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: now getting dicey.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Shack was the opposite. Last year.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Shack had a seventy coverage grade on PFF, but had
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: a twenty one percent miss tackle rate, so he struggled
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: more with tackling and in the run game.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: But he's out there, Boney. I will say this.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: O'kaacke did miss twenty one tackles last year, that was
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: the highest he's had, but he made forty seven.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: He had forty seven stops. He's defensive the experience, he's
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: great in coverage and against the run. He forced his turnovers.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: You're telling me that he and he wouldn't have to
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: be the main linebacker. Devin Lloyd's taking careful a lot
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: of that. I think that would be a great signing
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: at this point in the offseason if they brought him
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: in here.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: I think it'd be a good movie.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Why he's not signed now, I don't think it's injury,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: mag I just don't think he signed anything. I know
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: his PFF grades last year dropped the fifty six year
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: before that was in the seventies.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: If it was his best season last year bone and
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: he has reached thirty, I don't know.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: It wouldn't help.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it probably help, And I wouldn't be on here
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: saying it's a bad thing if they end up signing him.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Jermaine Pratt, Matt Mulano, these are other guys even older.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: They're both thirty one.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: So these are some of the linebackers if you're looking
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: for linebackers on the list.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I think all those guys, you know, they may have
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: their their flaws at disappoint in their careers, but I
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: think all those guys sound like upgrades over what they
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: currently have.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're all out there on free agency for
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: a reason, you know they are. But so was Darren Waller.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: And I think again, my whole point about Waller has
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: been all he has to do is be better than Sanders.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: The point that you're making is all he has to
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: do is be better than Wallace and cherialists? Is the
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: point you're making? Are you okay with the edge situation?
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: I feel better about the edge than I do the
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: linebacker spot, but it's not that that is second on
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: my list. Though It's not like I'm completely comfortable, but
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: your Pat Jones is there. I wish I wish Princely
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: would have played better the first game. They give us
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: a little bit more hope for him, but I don't
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: feel great about it. But I feel better at well, yeah,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I feel better about it than I do the linebacker spot,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: but it's not exactly great either.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: The Pat Jones is good and solid, but then we
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: need prince Lely to bring it. We need him also
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: to improve. And I shouldn't say you even improve because
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think he got a lot of rundown snaps
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: last year, but like to show that despite the skepticism
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: out there, that he can be a every down edge.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I know he told KB that's what he wants to
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: prove to everybody. And then after that bone you need
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: more than just three edge. The Incombs, the Travis Gibsons,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: those guys have to bring it. I just I go
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: back to the old Dave Gettleman saying, you can't have
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: enough ed rushers, You can't have enough guys to rush
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: the passer. I just think rushing the passer is more
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: important than having you know, that second off ball linebacker
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: spot improved.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Hey, if Dan wants to improve both positions, bot I
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: ain't gonna argue with him.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: No, if he wants to go out there and do
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: that leaf from Rockbarn. Want to know why we can't
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: sign Rose Boom. He's in Tampa right He went with
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Han Robinson to Tampa Bay. Yeah, he's a member of
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: the Bucks, but play which might not be a bad
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: thing for our offense. Yeah, I mean he would be
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: a lot better next to Devin Lloyd. And that's my point,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: bone is, we had all these guys that are just together.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: It was that middle of the field was brutal.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd's gonna help that middle of the field a bunch,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: no doubt about it. This Texter says, we can't just
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: go sign a hack that's a free agent right now.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: We can't just go get someone that's cut. There must
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: be a trade and we must give up actual draft collateral.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: This year we're defending a division title. I do kind
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: of like that sentiment. I would also throw in bone
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: that David Tepper literally said at that momentum event. Last
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: year was a team I thought, hey, I had a
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: chance at the playoffs. This year, I watched this team.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I see our roster, this is a playoff team. And
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Dan Morgan said, yeah, I heard that, Mac I was there.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: That is a direct That is your boss directly telling
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: you what the expectation is this year. So I kind
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: of echo that text in a way I usually bone
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: this time of year. Am not about giving up second
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: day draft pick in order to make a trade. I
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: actually feel that urgency. This ain't Patty Cake anymore, man,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: This saying oh we improved by two games, Hey we
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: won three more games. And last year isn't that great
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: yp pee gold star for the kiddie. It's not like
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: that anymore. Like they have to improve off eight wins.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: They have to win the division or it's going to
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: be seen as a step back. So I do kind
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: of know how you feel about that bone. That's why
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I keep saying trade for Alex highsman, like if they
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: want to trade for a linebacker or edge. I feel
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: the urgency more than I usually need.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Maybe time a year and they might be trying, but
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: the other team has to be willing to trade them,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: and they've got to pay the money for those guys
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: as well. I do wonder what kind of sign it
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: is for Princely though, if they do make a move
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: like that, that's a that's not a good sign, if
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: for their belief in Princely for what they're seeing, if
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: they go out and you know, already go get somebody else, right, So,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: oh definitely, I think, well, I think he's going to
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: get this preseason to show what he can do, right, Yeah,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: and then I think they'll make a decision at the
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: end of preseason do we need to add another edge
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: type thing? You know?
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Mac.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: When we come back, complainer in chief gets his time
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: to explain why unc. I think at this point he
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: has them going undefeated during the season. Also, it's a
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: huge day in music. We'll explain that sports radio WFZ.
• 35:22
  Speaker 9: And we bring all my guy Travis Hancock aka T Bone,
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: co host of The Mack and Bone Show, the morning
• 35:27
  Speaker 9: program on ninety two seven wfn Z.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: T Bone, It's Pat and brad Man, thanks so much
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: for joining us.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: Hey, hey you guys, And there we go as soon
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: as soon as we start, I did not bark, the
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: hole leader, and here we go.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: I told you I had hands the lector. Here I apologize.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Murphy has completely ruined this whole vent interview.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: I may have to just do it by a phone here,
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: because this guy is just a psychopath, an absolute psychopath.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: I don't worry about it at all, man, that how
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: about the how about the timing of that?
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: By the way, he just he waited.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Until right when you introduced me, and then he routed
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: he's a boy. Stop her.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: My wife mag in a nutshell right there. I try
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: to help out a radio show. That was Pat Boyle
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: brad Evans of Westwood one, and they had me on
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: last night on their on their night show, talking Panthers.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: We sat there on the video screen for about five minutes.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Murphy quiet as convenient. I did warn them he may bark,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: but in that five minutes didn't say a word, not
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: until the intro was just completed and I started to talk.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Then Murphy say, I need my time as well. Oh
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: my god, he might be a radio star. You might
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: have we might have a third another co host on
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: our hands. We have about what we have about two
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: months before the Hornets pregames. Get going here, Oh you
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: gotta get You're gonna have to do like Meg.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I may have to call you at night and just
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: do fake interviews and try to train this guy now
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: because he may he may be the third host of
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: the Horse Free Gig. You know what the I can
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: see that you're laughing because you had many dog issues.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Well we did shows from home. I had none with
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Mabel and now.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: With you that I know.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: This is what Bone gets for having the best behaved
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: dog that didn't make a noise or do anything too crazy.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Now Bone has the complete opposite, screaming out your dogs
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: during the shows.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: At Bark and they run around when they would hear me,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: you know, start talking on the air, they start running
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: around fighting each other.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: It's the craziest thing.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: By the way, we had a situation at the house
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: yesterday where Rocket puked seven piles of puke all over,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: just keeps moving to a different spot.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: And then Bacon goes over and starts eating it. That's
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: what That's what we had.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Gone on to McLeay ousel and I apologize if y'all
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: are still working on your breakfast. I didn't give you
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: a warning, yeh. I apologize what filthy animals they are?
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: All right, that's a lot of that's a lot of
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of dump truck.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: He pretty good. It was in two waves. It was
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: a wave of four piles.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Then we sent him outside, came back in, and ten
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: minutes later made three more piles for me to clean up.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I think he's all right. I think
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: he's good to go.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: But whoever was the first person to say, you know,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: those filthy animals out there that are so adorable, we
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: should just bring them in our houses? Who ever thought
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: of that idea? I both thank you and hate you
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: at the same time.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Who was the first dog owner? Like, I love my dogs?
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: But what were you thinking?
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: All right, anyway, people are going to be asking us
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: bone I want in a few minutes what we were thinking,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: because we are bringing complainer in chief on the air.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: We have heard from tar Heel fans who want to
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: hear some positivity about Tar Heel football and say we
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: have not been able to do that for him, And
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: to that we say, yes, we're having a hard time
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: finding it for you. But this man is a Heels
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: fan that believes they're going to have a big season.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: He is the director of Tar Heel Football Positivity on WFNZ.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Complainer in Chief, Complainer in Chief, what's going on?
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: Not much? Man, I'm by tell y'all doing.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: We're doing good. Where's the energy? Chief?
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: Oh? Oh, you know I've been up since like five
• 39:07
  Speaker 8: o'clock with more So that's the energy.
• 39:11
  Speaker 9: I know.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: You have a meeting to get to explain why you
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: think the Heels are going to be so good this year,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: including beating Miami and Louisville.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Would you just add it on in the last couple
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: of days. I didn't know that you saw that to
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: begin with.
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: Well, you know, I started doing some research, you know,
• 39:26
  Speaker 8: a little bit. You know, sometimes I don't do that.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: I just talk out my butt, you know, No, no,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: I can't believe that.
• 39:32
  Speaker 8: But anyways, look, man, I'm just gonna say like this,
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: Louisville last year, twenty five stacks. Okay, all right. I
• 39:38
  Speaker 8: don't know how that's gonna go this year. They're gonna
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: have to find a way to stop that. They've had
• 39:42
  Speaker 8: a lot of turnovers, they've lost two of their top weapons.
• 39:46
  Speaker 8: Yet they got a Texas wide receiver, but he only
• 39:49
  Speaker 8: had thirty point catches for three hundred and fifty four
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: yards last year. That's not going to replace that production.
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: So the vertical attacks gone because one of their main
• 39:58
  Speaker 8: wide receivers are going mate to the NFL. I mean,
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: then the Miami Hurricanes, I mean just historically they have
• 40:03
  Speaker 8: not beat us since they have not beat us since
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: the nineteen I mean, I think it's twenty nineteen, twenty seventeen,
• 40:07
  Speaker 8: something like that. We have owned them at our house.
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: That's just the way it is.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: You haven't played against this type of Miami team though,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know if you watched the college football
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: playoff last year, I don't know.
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: Hey, hey, listen, I understand what you're saying. But we've
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: heard all this talk before. They don't have Carson Beck.
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: They're not the same tea from last year.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: They lost them. They're better.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Darry Mins is better every ain't college football and us
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: will tell you he's better than Carson Beck.
• 40:29
  Speaker 8: I understand what you're saying. They lost their two defensive
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: ends though, that were freaking lights out they had. Are
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: they gonna be nowt?
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: But they brought in Damian Wilson beat the Tarios. I'm
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: pretty sure.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing, here's the thing. Who you're not
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: talking about your own team. Here's the problem, though, you're
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: talking about other teams right now. Why's your own team
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: gonna be good? Why's your own team gonna be good?
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I don't understand.
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell you why my own team's gonna be good.
• 40:53
  Speaker 8: That's what's gonna happen, Okay, Bill Belichick. Yeah, we brought
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: in some stuff, right. We brought in a lot of
• 40:57
  Speaker 8: players last year. It took us a little bit to
• 40:59
  Speaker 8: get to where we need to be. We're bringing in
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: the more players this year, right, a little bit more, okay,
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: and then from it's gonna take us. I think the
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: defense is going to have some struggles the first few
• 41:07
  Speaker 8: games until we get everything where it needs to be
• 41:09
  Speaker 8: at all right, we brought in two great linebackers, all right,
• 41:12
  Speaker 8: one from Richmond, and I can't remember what the other
• 41:14
  Speaker 8: one's from. Sorry, it with in my mind, but we
• 41:17
  Speaker 8: brought him in, okay. And then also, you want me
• 41:20
  Speaker 8: to tell me You want me tell you their names? Yes,
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: I'll tell you the names right now, I can't remember.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: All right, you got a meeting, We got a meeting.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: We gotta go. But thanks for your update on that. Well,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: you gotta go anywhere. So chaf we'll talk. Yeah, well
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: we'll cover spect you back one Friday.
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: Now. Let Bill Belichick's thirty eighth. Okay, and you know
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: Bobby Patrino's historically has a good offense. So and we
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: have ship, we have explosives.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: We're still going about that city. So you want to
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: hang up on it, We're gonna put you on the
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: whole Coyin. We'll pickyback up a taed. Yeah, you're going
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: on Colin show there, all right? Anyway, he has no
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: idea what's going on here?
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: You go?
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Fitty? Were you refusing to hang up on your fellow
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Tario fans that what was going on there?
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: I was trying to give him time to make at
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: least one selling point.
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: We didn't even get to say we had two great linebackers.
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: I forgot their names? Are where they came?
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Bro man, what's the Richmond dude's name? Seamen Sealman, Sealman. Home,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: my man, that's over there are our careers.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Just ending right now. I'm out Y'all'm out y'all.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Those transferred tight ends look good, though, Fitty, I'll give
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: you that, those transfer tight ends, they definitely look I
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: just don't know if there's a quarterback on that roster.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Why are you laughing about laugh.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I messed his name up, big mature about it, man,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Come on now, clean up all four over there? Fit
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: all right, We got to get out of here, man anyway.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Thanks to Charles Lee for coming in and hanging with us.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Thanks to all of you for listening. Tune in the
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: whole rest of the day here. You know they're going
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: to be getting you ready for Panthers and Bills. KB
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: and I have countdown to kick off Panthers Bills tomorrow.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Len A game gets going at one, so tune in.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Then we'll talk to y'all and we'll recap it all
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: on Monday. Both cut bone be mature, bone, U be mature.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: All right, we're out of here, y'all. We'll talk to
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: y'all on Monday. Colin's coming up next.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Panther ass, Mac Bone and the thud stud. It's like
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Fitty at a singles bar. Oh my god, look at her,
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, look at her. Mac.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: I'm not afraid to wear another man's job.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen. The weekend