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The Wedding Spon-Con Gone Wrong · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Sophie Torber and coming up on today's show, Sophie Gwydlin's
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  Speaker 1: secret marriage appears to be over, Aspen Ovard breaks her
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  Speaker 1: silence on her divorce, Martha Kalafatidis and Michael Brunelli's big announcement,
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  Speaker 1: and have things turned sour between Mia Plesik and a
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  Speaker 1: Chapel Street bridal boutique. But first, over the weekend, Justin
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  Speaker 1: and Hayley Bieber announced the arrival of their baby boy
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  Speaker 1: and they're receiving a lot of praise for the name, Amy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was really shocked when I saw this name drop
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  Speaker 1: because listeners of the podcast will know that Kate recently
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  Speaker 1: gave birth to her beautiful son, Jack, and the Biebers
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  Speaker 1: have copied Kate's name. Look, Kate has started something here.
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  Speaker 1: Can she take claim for that? Because I know Jack
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  Speaker 1: is a popular name. It's probably, it's in the top
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  Speaker 1: Australian names.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: But I did not think that a celebrity of this
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  Speaker 1: nature would call their kids such a normal name. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's a very traditional name. I thought they were going
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  Speaker 1: to go with something weird. His middle name is Blue.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's the celebrity aspect of the name.
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  Speaker 1: But this is a family name for Justin Bieber because
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  Speaker 1: his dad's middle name is Jack. And a fun fact,
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  Speaker 1: all of the Biebers have the initials JB. So of course,
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  Speaker 1: Justin Bieber his dad, Jeremy Bieber. He's got a half
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  Speaker 1: sister called Jasmine Bieber and also a half brother called
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  Speaker 1: Jackson Bieber. I think women always have a good argument
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  Speaker 1: when picking names because if it's traditional and the child
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  Speaker 1: is receiving the father's last name, I think that the
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  Speaker 1: mother should then have say over what the middle name
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  Speaker 1: and first name is because they're already getting that family name.
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  Speaker 1: That's inbuilt. But in this case, Hayley didn't seem to
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  Speaker 1: get either. Hey guys.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a hot minute since I've been on TikTok,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm relaunching myself.
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  Speaker 1: Rumors are swirling that things may have turned sour between
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  Speaker 1: controversial Slick Stick owner Mia Plesic and a Chapel Street
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  Speaker 1: bridal boutique. The divisive influencer has allegedly been shopping around
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  Speaker 1: for wedding sponsors since getting engaged in March last year. Now, Amy,
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  Speaker 1: before we get into it, for any new listeners, who
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  Speaker 1: is Mia? Well, Mia is a serial entrepreneur who currently
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  Speaker 1: runs a beauty brand called Slick Hair and And she
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  Speaker 1: first came onto the influencing scene back in 2017 when
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  Speaker 1: she was beauty influencer Michael Finch's manager. And it's rumored
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  Speaker 1: they had a huge falling out. Now, during the pandemic,
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  Speaker 1: she came to our attention when she started supporting and
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  Speaker 1: attending anti-lockdown protests. And during this time, she allegedly shared
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  Speaker 1: on her Instagram account that she had planned to find
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  Speaker 1: a black market doctor to sign a COVID passport for her.
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  Speaker 1: So she has been very controversial over the years. Doesn't
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  Speaker 1: that time just feel like so long ago? It feels
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  Speaker 1: like a nightmare. Well, I keep seeing this TikTok that
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  Speaker 1: says in just over four months time, 2020 will have
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  Speaker 1: been five years ago. And that blows my mind. That
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  Speaker 1: is crazy. Now, she also received backlash a few years
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  Speaker 1: ago for conflating abortion rights with the Victorian government's COVID
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  Speaker 1: lockdown and vaccine mandates. Now, Justin and Mia got engaged
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  Speaker 1: in Italy in March last year. And For a bit
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  Speaker 1: of background on Justin, he ran as a candidate for
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  Speaker 1: Clive Palmer's United Party and this year, He faced criticism
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  Speaker 1: after Mia uploaded a video of him pulling their dog
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  Speaker 1: Maple away from a dog park by her ear. Now
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  Speaker 1: at the time, Mia said, Maple is the most rough,
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  Speaker 1: destructive dog. A little lead of the ear doesn't hurt her.
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  Speaker 1: Trust me, I'd kill Justin or anyone if they hurt
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  Speaker 1: my girls. Well, now that we're up to speed, Sophie,
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  Speaker 1: what is fanning these rumors? Well, on June 1st, Mia
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  Speaker 1: announced that work had begun on her wedding gown. So
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  Speaker 1: she shared an Instagram story showing a seamstress working on
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  Speaker 1: her dress. Now, it appears that the dress has been
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  Speaker 1: custom made because the seamstress was working on a calico corset.
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  Speaker 1: So she wrote the first prototype of my wedding gown
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  Speaker 1: and tagged chambray couture in the story, but didn't specify
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  Speaker 1: if this was a gifted or paid partnership. Now, generally
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  Speaker 1: when an influencer tags a brand, it is because there
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  Speaker 1: is some sort of partnership agreement involved. In this case,
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  Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's a contra deal. So maybe the bridal
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  Speaker 1: store has gifted her this gown or is loaning it
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  Speaker 1: out to her in exchange for exposure on her wedding day. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the branded question, as I said, is Champery Couture, which
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  Speaker 1: is a bridal boutique on Chapel Street, which makes custom-made
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  Speaker 1: gowns as well as ready-to-wear gowns. Now, they have over
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  Speaker 1: 37,000 followers on Instagram, and I have to say their
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  Speaker 1: designs are absolutely stunning. Now, what was a little unusual
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  Speaker 1: is that on the 5th of August, Mia posted that
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  Speaker 1: she and her family were jetting off to Saint-Tropez in
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  Speaker 1: business class, of course, to embark on their European holiday
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  Speaker 1: ahead of their wedding in Italy. And this was very
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  Speaker 1: curious timing as it's only three months after she started
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  Speaker 1: having her gown designed. Gosh, that's cutting it very fine
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  Speaker 1: because most dresses would take, what, around a year to design? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they usually recommend 10 to 12 months. So it seems
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  Speaker 1: very strange to start having a custom gown made in
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  Speaker 1: June if your wedding is in September, particularly if you're
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  Speaker 1: leaving more than a month out from your wedding. And
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  Speaker 1: because generally there'll be fittings, particularly if it's a custom gown.
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  Speaker 1: So This designer must have been working around the clock
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  Speaker 1: to get this gown completed in time. Well, word on
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  Speaker 1: the street is that Mia has allegedly been shopping around
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  Speaker 1: for wedding sponsorship deals ever since she got engaged. So
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if she struggled to find a wedding dress
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  Speaker 1: designer who would actually gift her a gown. And that's
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  Speaker 1: why she's left it so late. Yeah, because she doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have a great reputation, particularly in Melbourne. Now, last week,
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  Speaker 1: Mia celebrated her bridal shower with three friends at the
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  Speaker 1: Ritz in London. And she was joined by Melanie James,
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  Speaker 1: who is married to Blair James, who recently sold Bondi
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  Speaker 1: Sands for $ 450 million.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Now she called it the bridal shower of her dreams
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  Speaker 1: and showed herself enjoying a high tea with her friends.
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  Speaker 1: Is it just me or does this kind of celebration
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  Speaker 1: seem almost a little bit choogy? Because the way Mia
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  Speaker 1: Plesic posts, it's like she's back in 2012 and she's
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  Speaker 1: just bragging so much about having money when in reality,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if she's as wealthy as she makes out. Well,
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  Speaker 1: she's one of those influencers who looks like brand names
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  Speaker 1: have vomited on her. But as we have discussed in
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  Speaker 1: previous episodes, most of her designer gear is fake and
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  Speaker 1: she has openly spoken about that. Now, what's got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of tongues wagging is since posting about her bridal
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  Speaker 1: shower and her lavish couple of weeks in Europe, Champery
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  Speaker 1: Couture is no longer following Mia Plesic. And this has
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  Speaker 1: led to a lot of speculation that perhaps things have
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  Speaker 1: turned sour with this partnership and maybe Mia isn't upholding
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  Speaker 1: her side of the Contra deal. So we will to
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  Speaker 1: watch this space. Well, it is a really strong message
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  Speaker 1: to unfollow someone. So more must be brewing behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just interested to see in the next few weeks
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  Speaker 1: if Mia ends up wearing a shampoo couture gown to
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  Speaker 1: her wedding. Yeah, well, we have to wait for a
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks to find out, but doesn't have a
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  Speaker 1: good track record of upholding her side of contra deals.
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  Speaker 1: So a few years ago, she was called out by
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  Speaker 1: a florist called Bloom Squad Melbourne for allegedly demanding free
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  Speaker 1: flowers in exchange for sponsored posts. I remember this one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So she held a very Instagrammable 30th birthday party. So
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  Speaker 1: there were huge balloon installations. She had a life-size illustration
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  Speaker 1: of herself on a media wall. I mean, as you
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  Speaker 1: do at your own party. Of course. She had custom biscuits,
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  Speaker 1: a bar, dessert tables, even a live illustrator. And the
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  Speaker 1: theme was Capri for a day, which is quite interesting
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  Speaker 1: because she is holding her wedding in Italy. And she
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  Speaker 1: enlisted the help of many vendors to make this extravagant
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  Speaker 1: party a reality. And she ended up sharing a post
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  Speaker 1: about the party, but she failed to properly acknowledge any
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  Speaker 1: of the vendors that had jumped on board as partners.
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  Speaker 1: And this led Bloom Squad Melbourne to write under the post,
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  Speaker 1: were you planning on thanking the small businesses who worked
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  Speaker 1: for free at your party? A week later, after a
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  Speaker 1: lot of back and forth, Mia then begrudgingly posted a
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  Speaker 1: photo of the flowers and tagged the florist. I want
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  Speaker 1: to point out that it was a fairly average post
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  Speaker 1: as well. It was just a photo that had been
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  Speaker 1: snapped with an iPhone and the caption was pretty subpar.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't very glowing about the florist. I mean, you'd
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  Speaker 1: think if this small brand had gifted you a stunning
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  Speaker 1: display of flowers, maybe you could do a walkthrough video
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  Speaker 1: explaining what you'd been given and actually give the small
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  Speaker 1: business some exposure, particularly because this was around the time
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  Speaker 1: of the pandemic when a lot of florists were losing
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  Speaker 1: work because no weddings were on, there weren't many events.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting to me that Mia acts as if she's
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  Speaker 1: got so much money, but then yet everything at these
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  Speaker 1: events seemed to be gifted. Yeah, exactly. It's like she's,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, she's now friends with this Melanie from Bondi
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  Speaker 1: Sands who legitimately is a multi-millionaire. So she seems to
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  Speaker 1: have to try and keep up appearances. Now back to
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  Speaker 1: this story about her 30th, The florist ended up resharing
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  Speaker 1: the photo that Mia had shared and wrote, only took
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  Speaker 1: a week, but we managed to finally get a tag
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  Speaker 1: out of her, even though it was her bright idea.
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  Speaker 1: Hope you enjoyed your free flowers. Safe to say she
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  Speaker 1: is not part of our squad. What a burn. I
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  Speaker 1: think sometimes these influences forget. What a huge thing this
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  Speaker 1: is for some small businesses to not only donate their goods,
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  Speaker 1: but it's also their time. Yeah, because they're taking time
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  Speaker 1: away from other clients that they could be working with
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  Speaker 1: and then potentially building on their business and making more money. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the florist also alleged that a number of their vases
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  Speaker 1: got smashed at this party. So it's really not a
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  Speaker 1: good look for Mia. I just really wonder how many
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  Speaker 1: vendors are going to come out of the woodwork following
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  Speaker 1: this wedding because there really does seem to be a
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  Speaker 1: bigger story brewing here. So I would keep an eye.
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  Speaker 2: Out on it. Mm-hmm. Where do I start?
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  Speaker 3: It's been a roller coaster.
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  Speaker 1: Fitness influencer Sophie Gwydolin's secret marriage to fitness coach Nicholas
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  Speaker 1: White appears to be over. Just four months after flashing
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  Speaker 1: their wedding bands on social media, the pair have now
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  Speaker 1: unfollowed each other. Now, we say they flashed their wedding bands,
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  Speaker 1: but they also flashed us the finger around this time
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  Speaker 1: as well because we had a bit of a run-in
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  Speaker 1: with the pair. Well, we will get into that, but...
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  Speaker 1: I want to get listeners up to speed with their
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  Speaker 1: relationship timeline because this has all happened very quickly. So
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  Speaker 1: Sophie and Nicholas first appeared publicly together in December last
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  Speaker 1: year during a holiday to the Mid-North Coast. Now, Nicholas
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  Speaker 1: is a Gold Coast personal trainer who runs Buffalo Tribe Programming.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds like a fake name, Buffalo Tribe Programming. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really roll off the tongue, does it? No. They
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  Speaker 1: kept their relationship low profile until Nicola started appearing in
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  Speaker 1: Sophie's YouTube videos at the start of April. And if
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  Speaker 1: you remember, Amy, he was seen bringing her flowers after
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  Speaker 1: her breast explant surgery. Isn't this in the same YouTube
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  Speaker 1: video where Sophie just drops, oh, this is my husband
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  Speaker 1: and the internet freaked out?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: So it was a subsequent video. So she was showing
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  Speaker 1: off her bodybuilding trophies and then casually referred to him
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  Speaker 1: as her husband. Let's throw to what she said. Do
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  Speaker 1: you want one? I can put your name on it.
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  Speaker 2: You could have best husband of the year 2024.
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  Speaker 1: There was a lot of breadcrumbing going on on Instagram
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  Speaker 1: as well. So Sophie and Nicholas both started wearing wedding
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  Speaker 1: bands in their Instagram stories. And at the time, Amber
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  Speaker 1: from Influencer Updates was reporting that acquaintances of Nicholas had
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  Speaker 1: reached out to her to say the couple got married overseas.
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  Speaker 1: There's lots of spies, aren't there? Now, we covered this
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  Speaker 1: story back in April, Amy, as you touched on, which
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  Speaker 1: led Sophie to block our accounts and also make a
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  Speaker 1: bizarre rant about our segment and the general public speculating
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  Speaker 1: about this marriage. Now, I want to point out that
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  Speaker 1: in the segment, all we did was report on the
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  Speaker 1: information that she and Nicholas chose to point out. So
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  Speaker 1: she wrote, oh, the irony of the bullshit that is
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  Speaker 1: social media, when you have no idea what someone is
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  Speaker 1: going through, yet feel you have the right to say
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  Speaker 1: your opinion on a story that you know nothing about.
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  Speaker 1: She then directed this at her haters saying, judge away,
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  Speaker 1: just make sure your glass house is clean and your
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  Speaker 1: husband isn't one of the ones in my DMs, followed
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  Speaker 1: by vomit faces. Now, this was accompanied by a hospital selfie. Now,
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  Speaker 1: things didn't end there because underneath a clip of us
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  Speaker 1: promoting the episode, her husband, Nicholas, well, suspected husband, Nicholas wrote,
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  Speaker 1: must be nice having nothing better to do with your life.
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  Speaker 1: And we chose to respond to this because I am
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  Speaker 1: so sick of women's businesses being downplayed and belittled by
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  Speaker 1: people like this. So we wrote, it's true, our podcast
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  Speaker 1: does take up a lot of our lives, seeing as
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  Speaker 1: it's one of the multiple businesses we run. Sorry, it
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  Speaker 1: makes me laugh because I know Kate wrote this. I
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  Speaker 1: suppose you have to put the hard work in to
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  Speaker 1: crack 10 million streams. We love what we do and
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  Speaker 1: think it's important to analyse influencer culture. We're not sure
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  Speaker 1: why you're so upset over us discussing information your partner
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  Speaker 1: so willingly shared. What a burn. I miss Kate being
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  Speaker 1: involved in some of the back and forth with influencers,
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  Speaker 1: but she will be back soon. Yeah, well, last week,
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  Speaker 1: the rumor mill went into overdrive when Sophie and Nicholas
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  Speaker 1: both unfollowed each other. Now, this wasn't only in their
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  Speaker 1: own names, but they also made sure to unfollow one
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  Speaker 1: another on their business profile. So the Buffalo Fitness page
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  Speaker 1: got an unfollow. Now, Nick, whose account has been private
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  Speaker 1: since the secret wedding rumors surfaced, has also now made
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  Speaker 1: his account public. And many people are wondering if this
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  Speaker 1: is because he wants to share his side of events
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  Speaker 1: with Sophie's followers and the general public. It seems very
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  Speaker 1: similar to when her marriage broke down only last year
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  Speaker 1: with Dr. Andrew and his sister went rogue and started
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  Speaker 1: releasing all this information about Sophie that didn't paint her
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  Speaker 1: in a very glowing light. Well, Sophie seems to have
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  Speaker 1: this effect on people, doesn't she? And she has been
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  Speaker 1: appearing on her Instagram stories without her ring.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Now, if this is true and the couple are in
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  Speaker 1: fact married, this is sadly her fourth marriage breakdown. And
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  Speaker 1: it comes less than 18 months after she ended her
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  Speaker 1: marriage to Gold Coast dentist, Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Andrew.
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  Speaker 1: Now their marriage only lasted four months and they separated
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  Speaker 1: after their daughter Pixie was delivered stillborn. Now you might
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  Speaker 1: be wondering who else was she married to? So her
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  Speaker 1: first marriage took place when she was very young. So
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  Speaker 1: she grew up as a Jehovah's Witness, which might surprise
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  Speaker 1: some listeners. And her next marriage was to Nathan Wallace
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  Speaker 1: in 2005, who she shared a lot about on her
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  Speaker 1: Instagram stories. He is the father to a couple of
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  Speaker 1: her children. I've never understood why so many influencers seem
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  Speaker 1: to rush into marriage, particularly when so many of them
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  Speaker 1: have had such a string of failed marriages. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: would think that you might be a bit hesitant when
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  Speaker 1: it's fourth time round. I mean, we don't know the
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  Speaker 1: ins and outs of this. She might be a real optimist,
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  Speaker 1: but I just don't understand the need to actually get
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  Speaker 1: married because It just makes things so difficult financially when
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  Speaker 1: it ends badly. It just would be a complete head fuck.
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  Speaker 1: And this story has been picked up by the mainstream media.
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  Speaker 1: So the Daily Mail reached out to Sophie for a comment,
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  Speaker 1: but she has declined to share any details with the publication.
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  Speaker 1: She is currently back in hospital, though, with a mystery condition.
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  Speaker 1: She wrote on Instagram, thank you for the beautiful messages.
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  Speaker 1: I've taken some time offline to recharge after a recent
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  Speaker 1: hospital stay. I'm back home now on the mend and
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to getting back into it. Now, this would
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  Speaker 1: be a very difficult time for her. We will have
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  Speaker 1: to keep an eye on Nick's social media account, though,
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  Speaker 1: to see if he spills the beans on what has
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  Speaker 1: actually gone down. You never know. He might suddenly reach
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  Speaker 1: out to us and DM us. It's not the first
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  Speaker 1: time this has happened. Going to try and be a
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  Speaker 1: little more. Tell me more.
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  Speaker 2: What? Try and be a little more.
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  Speaker 1: Demure.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be more demure.
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  Speaker 1: American YouTuber Aspen Ovard has broken her silence four months
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  Speaker 1: after filing for divorce from her husband, Parker Ferris. The
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  Speaker 1: divorce news shocked Aspen's followers back in April as it
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  Speaker 1: coincided with the YouTuber announcing the birth of the couple's
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  Speaker 1: third child. Now, Amy, a lot of people have been
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  Speaker 1: waiting for Aspen to respond to the media report about
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  Speaker 1: her marriage breakdown because she didn't actually break this news herself.
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  Speaker 1: It started gaining momentum on gossip forums until US media
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  Speaker 1: broke this story. Yeah, there has been a lot of
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  Speaker 1: interest in this story because Aspen has over 2 million
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  Speaker 1: followers on Instagram and also on YouTube. So for background,
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  Speaker 1: Aspen is an OG beauty influencer. who now shares family
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  Speaker 1: vlog style content. So she's been on YouTube for over
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  Speaker 1: a decade and married Parker when she was 19. What
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  Speaker 1: makes this story even more intriguing is that both Aspen
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  Speaker 1: and Parker are practicing Mormons from Utah. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: people were hoping that Aspen would do a sit down
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  Speaker 1: Q & A on a YouTube about the divorce. but
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  Speaker 1: she's opted to touch on it on TikTok. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: she used the current demure trend to address why she
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: hasn't publicly talked about the divorce online, and she entitled
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: the video Soft Launch. Now, if you haven't heard of
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: the demure trend, it was made popular by TikToker Jules
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  Speaker 1: Lebrun after she shared a video of her describing how
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: she gets ready for work in a demure way. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this term is all about being cutesy, clean, and mindful,
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  Speaker 1: and it's about not drawing attention to yourself with an
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  Speaker 1: emphasis on being productive and navigating your life with quiet confidence.
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  Speaker 1: So it is kind of tongue in cheek. Some people
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  Speaker 1: will use it as a bit of a joke. Let's
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  Speaker 1: have a listen to what Aspen said.
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  Speaker 3: You see how I don't talk about my divorce online?
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  Speaker 3: Very demure, very mindful. You see how I considered my
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  Speaker 3: children and how it would affect them to have their
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: family's personal information shared all over the internet? Very smart,
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  Speaker 3: very good mom. You see how those magazines and websites
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  Speaker 3: wrote articles sharing personal information that I hadn't shared yet
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  Speaker 3: when I had just given birth to a premature baby
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  Speaker 3: who was in the NICU? Very trashy, very tacky.
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  Speaker 1: See how I will.
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  Speaker 3: Continue to stay unbothered and not share anything to protect
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  Speaker 3: my peace. Very demure, very mindful, very cutesy, very peaceful.
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  Speaker 1: Now this video has clocked up over 22.9 million views
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  Speaker 1: at the time of recording. A day later, she shared
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  Speaker 1: a video of her pretending to type vigorously on the
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  Speaker 1: computer alongside the caption, me reading every single comment and
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: DM to see if anyone has confessed to secretly having
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  Speaker 1: a crush on me over the years. and is interested
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  Speaker 1: now I'm single. This also clocked up over a million views.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: A few hours later, she also shared a video of
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: herself holding her daughter in her car with the caption,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: me in 20 years when I get paid $ 10 million
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: to do a tell-all. And she mimed to this clip.
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  Speaker 1: Part 37, who the fuck did I marry? So at
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  Speaker 1: this point in time, I have filed for divorce. She
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: captioned the TikTok, I'm not going to share details, but
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I am going to make jokes. Oh, please share the details.
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  Speaker 1: You can't just breadcrumb us like this. We need to
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  Speaker 1: know what has gone on and we're not going to
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: care in 20 years' time. We want to know now.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I think it's a clever way for her to address
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the rumours without really having to touch on them too
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: deeply because... She's been able to confirm to the world
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: that she is single. But she's also basically said, what
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: the fuck was this guy? It infers that there's more
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: to the story though. Oh, it 100% infers there's more
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: to the story. If Molly Mae pulls this shit, I
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: will be so fucking unhappy. I think it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: classy though because she's been able to say, look, my
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  Speaker 1: husband obviously has done me wrong, but I'm too demure.
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  Speaker 1: I'm too classy to talk about it. But in reality,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I don't like this because she's a YouTuber. She has shared,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: herself giving birth. We know all the ins and outs.
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  Speaker 1: We can't be there for all of the good. times
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: and then not be let in on the bad times.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I think we deserve to know what's gone down. Well,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: that's the only thing I worry about because these clips
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: are a bit of a tease for her devoted followers.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: And we've spoken about it before, how some fans will
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: then turn against that YouTuber that they love and they'll
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: start to create. Yeah, and I think there's a lot
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: of that going online right now. I think this will
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: be a real problem for her, particularly when you look
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: at the fact that a fan came across Aspen's divorce papers.
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  Speaker 1: This is how it all came out. A fan posted
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: it on Reddit and that's where the media picked up
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: on it. Well, they're going to find out what's happened,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: isn't it, these followers, one way or another. Can I.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: fix this so the angle isn't so shocking and I
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: don't look like Lord Farquaad.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Martha Califatidis and Michael Brunelli have announced they're starting a
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: new family series with Martha's mum, Mary. So Mary appeared
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: on Big Brother back in 2021 and she has been
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: a constant feature on both Michael and Martha's social channels
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: since the couple moved back into Martha's parents' home in 2023.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I think that Mary is the real reason that Martha
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: and Michael are still so relevant because she just adds
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: so much to their content. She is so funny and
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: brutally honest. Well, I would argue that she's becoming more
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: popular than Michael and Martha because her one-liners are hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: She's become a TikTok sensation and followers have been calling
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: on the family to have their own reality show. So
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: watch out, Hembros. I mean, that series has never aired
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Could we see a Califatitas family reality show.
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  Speaker 2: In the works?
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Well, I suppose all three of them have proven that
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: they're popular on free-to-air reality shows. So it wouldn't be
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: that difficult to get it potentially across the line. Well,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: for a moment, followers actually thought that the couple were
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: announcing that they had a reality program because they shared
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: this teaser reel on Instagram and it was announcing a
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: new project called The Morning Roast. So the promo began
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: with followers' comments popping up on the screen, which were
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: all saying, we want to see you on a reality show.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: And then the reel showed highlights of Martha and Michael's
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: TikTok accounts, as well as vision of the trio taking
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: part in a photo shoot in their pajamas. And they
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: were all seen sipping coffee. The video then finished with
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: a series logo, which is a caricature of Martha, Mary
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: and Michael. Now, there was a lot of confusion around
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: whether this was a podcast announcement or or if they
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: were starting their own YouTube series. Because Michael and Martha
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: have been involved in co-hosting podcasts in the past. And
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I actually thoroughly enjoyed in particular Michael's show. He was
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: a natural on there. He spoke really well. He was
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: partnered up with Josh from Love Island. And Josh has
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: now gone on to do the show with Cassidy, who
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: used to be on Love Island.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I haven't listened to it since Michael has left, but
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: just back to this teaser. So Fans were really excited.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: They all started following this new Instagram account. It's got
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: 19,000 followers already. And on their Instagram stories, they asked
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: fans to send them questions saying nothing is off limits.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: So this made me think, oh, well, this is clearly
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: a podcast. But on Saturday afternoon, Martha, Michael and Mary
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: did a live on Instagram sharing a 45 minute video.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: And it was quite funny because normally when people start lives,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: they talk to the camera and they explain what they're doing.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: But there was none of this. It was very much
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: like their TikTok videos they put out. It was literally
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: like you were a fly on the wall just watching
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: all their interactions. But Martha put fans out of their
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: misery around 15 minutes in when she confirmed what fans
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: could expect from this new project. Let's have a listen.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: It's not a podcast. It's a vodcast, which is a video,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: but it will have.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Audio as well.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: So you'll be able to watch it on YouTube. You'll
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: be able to watch it on YouTube.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: And look, we're aiming to do it like... Morning, like
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: every morning, but it's probably... No, no, no, we've changed that.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, we've changed that.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I obviously wasn't in the board meeting. Three mornings a week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: we're going to be posting.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: So this is basically a podcast, but you can also
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: watch on YouTube. Well, it's a video podcast on YouTube.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I've never heard of a vodcast before. Well, everyone's saying
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: that video podcasts are the biggest, greatest thing that's happening
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: right now. Like every podcast is on video, which I
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: actually hate, like the best thing about having a podcast
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: is being able to wear really daggy clothes and not
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: worrying about what you look like. I rang you up today, Amy.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I said, I cannot film today. I just was not
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: feeling it. So you were literally sitting here in a
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: matching gray. Well, I don't even think that the grays
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: are matching, but a matching gray tracksuit. Well, I saw
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Alex Cooper from Call Her Daddy and all she wears
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: is matching tracksuit. It's This is not as nice as hers.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think you've got Call Her Daddy vibes going
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: on at the moment. She's lazy bum vibes. Lazy bum vibes. Well,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: this is going to be a lot of work for
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: them though. Three video podcasts a week. I love that
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Martha just dropped, oh, aren't we doing it every day?
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Do you think that there's a team backing this or
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: is this being independently run by them? Well, I'm not sure.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: They haven't confirmed if a team is involved. They did
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: keep referencing meetings that they'd been involved in, which imply
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: maybe there is someone else involved. But Michael was setting
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: everything up. So he was setting up lights. The light
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: nearly fell on Martha twice, which she wasn't happy about.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: And he was also handing out microphones during this live.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: So I wonder if he will actually be filming a
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: lot of this content. Sounds like it's going to be chaotic,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: but I will be tuning in because I think that
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: they have a great dynamic and chemistry together. Yeah, I
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: really like them. And just lastly, a little bit of gossip.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Some followers thought that during this live, Martha had accidentally
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: let slip that she and Michael had secretly married. So
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: many secret marriages in this episode, Amy. Well, because she
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: said in the video, I'm regretting that I married you. However,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Michael quickly responded, well, we've been engaged for seven years
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: because I'm still trying to work out whether I want
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: to go through with it. Well, I think that's all
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: we've got time for today. Thank you so much for
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: listening to another episode of Outspoken. And thank you so
• 25:44
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• 25:46
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• 25:49
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• 26:01
  Speaker 1: the traditional land of the Kaurna people of the Adelaide Plains.
• 26:04
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