Latest / Wine & Audacity / 111: The Injustice League
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
- 0:17Speaker 2: Start damn though it's not watching on so we can
- 0:31Speaker 2: track our time.
- 0:34Speaker 1: I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, the definitely not
- 0:39Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah god yeah opine again yeah
- 0:54Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah go go ja yah.
- 1:07Speaker 1: How are you feeling this week? My niggas? What?
- 1:10Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 1:10Speaker 1: What's what's cracking? What's popping? Don't ever do that? Hadden?
- 1:16Speaker 1: Why not? Why not? Brother? Shouldn't I talk like my people?
- 1:19Speaker 1: You just like that?
- 1:21Speaker 3: You just like that nigga and take brother, be like
- 1:23Speaker 3: what's up my niggas? And I'm like, what's up my niggas.
- 1:27Speaker 3: It's like it's like it's like I know you can
- 1:29Speaker 3: say it, but I don't think you should.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Trying to sayd my black n not not ill.
- 1:36Speaker 2: This just this salty ass did.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Salty That was funny, salty ass soda not as salty.
- 1:51Speaker 1: It's a little salty. Got a.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Niggas more than the twenty Well, Welcome to this week's
- 2:05Speaker 2: episode of Wine and Audacity the podcast. I am your host,
- 2:08Speaker 2: Brain's card, and I'm joined by two of my favorite
- 2:10Speaker 2: people in the world, and this salty ass diet PEPSI.
- 2:15Speaker 1: How are your feeling to speak you and Sulci dig
- 2:20Speaker 1: is going through it today. Baby is not over yet. Friends, listen,
- 2:24Speaker 1: I gotta tell you all. I'm mentioned terrib before, but
- 2:27Speaker 1: I follow this this uh TikToker named prey Line Pete,
- 2:32Speaker 1: and she does. I follow her Patrion because she told
- 2:35Speaker 1: she does stories on Patrio. Yeah, that's why I got
- 2:37Speaker 1: Boomo doup from. And one of the stories she's just
- 2:41Speaker 1: recently told was she had a friend who came and
- 2:46Speaker 1: stayed with her. Well, the girl she met at empowerment
- 2:48Speaker 1: lunching and they became friends and started hanging out because
- 2:52Speaker 1: she didn't have a lot of female friends and stuff.
- 2:54Speaker 1: And she found out that the girl had been in
- 2:56Speaker 1: The girl called her from a domestic by Dollnce sheltered
- 3:02Speaker 1: and was telling her she had been staying there because
- 3:04Speaker 1: the guy she was dealing with was abusive to her
- 3:06Speaker 1: and all the other stuff. And she was like, well,
- 3:08Speaker 1: how long you been there? And she was like, I've
- 3:09Speaker 1: been here for like a week, and she was like,
- 3:10Speaker 1: why are you just calling me? Like you should have
- 3:12Speaker 1: been called me told me what was going on. So
- 3:13Speaker 1: she allowed her to come stay with her and her boyfriend.
- 3:15Speaker 1: Red flag number one. You not letting no bitch move
- 3:18Speaker 1: in the house with you on your man. I'm sorry,
- 3:20Speaker 1: I don't give a damn who it is. I don't
- 3:22Speaker 1: give a damn. That's just glutting for punishment. But anyway,
- 3:26Speaker 1: she let the girl come stay with him, and she
- 3:30Speaker 1: said her boyfriend wasn't really there. They often because he
- 3:33Speaker 1: worked off shore, so he would be gone for weeks
- 3:37Speaker 1: at the time. So she said one day she came
- 3:39Speaker 1: home and she said her neighbor stopped her and was like,
- 3:46Speaker 1: she said, her and the girl had got into the
- 3:47Speaker 1: boat something, So she ended up making a girl leave.
- 3:49Speaker 1: She said her neighbor stopped her one day when she
- 3:52Speaker 1: was coming in and was like, I gotta tell you something.
- 3:54Speaker 1: I've seen something the other day and I think you
- 3:55Speaker 1: should know. And she said that the neighbor showed her
- 4:00Speaker 1: a video. She was like, I saw that your You
- 4:02Speaker 1: wasn't home, but your door was cracked open. And she
- 4:05Speaker 1: was like, so I went over to investigate cause I
- 4:07Speaker 1: ain't know somebody had broke into your house or whatever.
- 4:08Speaker 1: I need to call nine one one or US. So
- 4:09Speaker 1: she said, your door was cracked open. When I looked
- 4:11Speaker 1: in your door, I saw the girl that used to
- 4:14Speaker 1: live here with you and your boyfriend engaged in some activity.
- 4:19Speaker 1: So she was like, nah, that couldn't have been my
- 4:21Speaker 1: boyfriend because my boyfriend is working off shore. Right. She
- 4:24Speaker 1: was like, well, I took She was like, girl, listen,
- 4:27Speaker 1: I took a video just to be sure, cause I
- 4:29Speaker 1: wanted you to see it. So she showed her the video,
- 4:30Speaker 1: and sure enough it was her boyfriend who was supposed
- 4:34Speaker 1: to be off shore and the experiment, and he was
- 4:38Speaker 1: using her toothbrush on the girl. Hmmm, I don't know how,
- 4:47Speaker 1: I said, wait, I rewinded it cause I said, two
- 4:50Speaker 1: t did you say toothbrush? Like the the the shit
- 4:52Speaker 1: with the bristles that you brush your teeth with it?
- 4:55Speaker 1: She was using her toothbrush on the girl, So she
- 4:56Speaker 1: was like, you know what. She was like, what the fuck?
- 4:58Speaker 1: So she was like, you know what. I just actually
- 5:01Speaker 1: ended up having to go to the doctors because I
- 5:02Speaker 1: had I had thrusholver my tongue that started developing and
- 5:07Speaker 1: I had some kind of infection in my gums, and
- 5:10Speaker 1: they gave me antibiotics and stuff for it. They said,
- 5:12Speaker 1: you know, they could have came from I forgot what
- 5:14Speaker 1: she told that. They told me it could have came from
- 5:15Speaker 1: I can't remember, But anyway, she ended up trying to
- 5:20Speaker 1: call a girlfriend. I'm trying to call a girl trying
- 5:23Speaker 1: to call a boyfriend, and even one of them was
- 5:25Speaker 1: answering the phone. So she sent them the video and
- 5:28Speaker 1: then the girl came calling her was like, I can
- 5:29Speaker 1: explain some some something, and the girl was like, it
- 5:33Speaker 1: ain't nothing to explain. I seen it, I seen. So
- 5:35Speaker 1: then the girl showed up to her house one day
- 5:37Speaker 1: when she wasn't home, in the neighbor called, they're getting in,
- 5:39Speaker 1: Like that girl was out here banging on your door
- 5:41Speaker 1: and stuff. So she was like, oh, I'm like five
- 5:43Speaker 1: minutes away. I'll be there in a minute. So when
- 5:44Speaker 1: she got there, the girl was say, let me explain,
- 5:46Speaker 1: it's not what you think. Blah blah blah blah blah.
- 5:48Speaker 1: So she gave it this bullshit story about how you know,
- 5:52Speaker 1: the boyfriend had came home one day while she wasn't.
- 5:55Speaker 1: Then they got to talk and they was flirting, and
- 5:56Speaker 1: then next thing you know, they ended up sleeping together.
- 5:59Speaker 1: The real story ended up coming out, which is their
- 6:01Speaker 1: head set the girl up this entire time to dude
- 6:03Speaker 1: with some kind of sex trafficker or something, and the
- 6:07Speaker 1: girl she had her boyfriend was. He was lying about
- 6:10Speaker 1: being offshore and all that stuff. He was some kind
- 6:12Speaker 1: of sex traft the money was coming from. He was
- 6:15Speaker 1: some kind of sex trafficker. And the girl who ended
- 6:17Speaker 1: up being her roommate had attention. Initially started off as
- 6:21Speaker 1: one of his victims, but now she was helping him recruit.
- 6:23Speaker 1: So he was sending her to events like the Women
- 6:25Speaker 1: in powermen and stuff to make friends with these women
- 6:27Speaker 1: and stuff, to try to set it up for eventually
- 6:30Speaker 1: him to sex traffic women and stuff. It was crazy.
- 6:33Speaker 1: It was crazy as ship, but that me saying something
- 6:36Speaker 1: about Thrush just made me think about that. But she
- 6:38Speaker 1: was telling some wild stories. I don't follow nobody Patreon,
- 6:41Speaker 1: but I started following hers. I was like, I'm gona
- 6:43Speaker 1: pay this little five dollars follow don't be people Patrions.
- 6:48Speaker 1: I ever followed was hers and loney Be's because I
- 6:50Speaker 1: love you some damn loney Bee. He took the ship
- 6:52Speaker 1: out of me. Pray prey line p I think that's
- 6:56Speaker 1: what is pray line piece? She rush Thrush.
- 6:59Speaker 2: Thrush, Yeah, so that is absolutely positively disgusting.
- 7:06Speaker 1: That really is. And met you and my motherfucking house
- 7:11Speaker 1: ain't doing all this crazy shit trying to set me
- 7:13Speaker 1: the fuck up. But anyway, they ended up finding evidence
- 7:16Speaker 1: and stuff, and the boy he went to jail. The
- 7:20Speaker 1: girl testified against him, so she got like a shorter sentence,
- 7:23Speaker 1: but oh dude, he got life sentences ship because about
- 7:27Speaker 1: stuff got uncovered. Like I said, he was a sex
- 7:29Speaker 1: trafficking and stuff, and he came from money. His parents
- 7:31Speaker 1: had owned the real estate. Like, he allied to her
- 7:33Speaker 1: about his name and everything, and she ended up finding
- 7:35Speaker 1: him and she saw a picture of him with like
- 7:37Speaker 1: two older people, and she was like, these can't be
- 7:39Speaker 1: his parents because I met his parents. Well, she hadn't
- 7:41Speaker 1: really met his parents. The two people she had met
- 7:43Speaker 1: was part of the lord thing he had going on,
- 7:45Speaker 1: and they were trying to recruit her too. That's the
- 7:49Speaker 1: whole point. That's what he used that girl to go to,
- 7:51Speaker 1: like women empowerment and ship that he knew what the
- 7:53Speaker 1: women was gonna be at and to befriend them and
- 7:55Speaker 1: then eventually he was trying to pull them into the froe.
- 7:58Speaker 1: But she started off as a victim in this too,
- 8:01Speaker 1: and now he didn't make her pretty much like his
- 8:03Speaker 1: you know, his bottom bitch, but his real parents was
- 8:07Speaker 1: like legit rich. They owe the real estate company some
- 8:09Speaker 1: other ship. He didn't have to do the shit. He
- 8:10Speaker 1: just showed fucking do it. And he was actually using
- 8:13Speaker 1: his parents company as a front. And so yeah, he
- 8:16Speaker 1: went to jail fault that shit, all kinds of fraud
- 8:18Speaker 1: and sex trafficking, this whole ship. Yeah, and his parents
- 8:21Speaker 1: cut him off because they was like legit real like
- 8:23Speaker 1: they was like stand up people, his real parents. It
- 8:26Speaker 1: was crazy. I was like, girl, I mean in the comments,
- 8:29Speaker 1: like sis, just why I think you can't flapping my gas? No,
- 8:32Speaker 1: damn well here you come gassing. They was gash. I
- 8:41Speaker 1: was like the girl on TikTok the other day. She
- 8:43Speaker 1: was like, if you have a partner to beg, I
- 8:45Speaker 1: want to beg your partner because what the fuck? So, yeah,
- 8:49Speaker 1: she was on some crazy stories. I liked her. I
- 8:51Speaker 1: filed she from New Orleans, c So you know a
- 8:53Speaker 1: love that accent? Did you have? Y'all been following this
- 8:57Speaker 1: group chat series and scoring around. I just started it
- 8:59Speaker 1: the other day. I'll wait for the next poet, because baby,
- 9:03Speaker 1: she dropped the trailer. She dropped a trailer. I said, oh,
- 9:06Speaker 1: you bitch, you's a genius. Yeah, she that girl wood.
- 9:10Speaker 1: That crazy you want to explain from? Yeah, so it's
- 9:15Speaker 1: this excuse me, y'all. I was drinking unsaulted pepsi, poor
- 9:24Speaker 1: friend first, Like I'm gonna get you after lend's over.
- 9:26Speaker 1: It's a real pepsy friend. It's what you want, what
- 9:28Speaker 1: you want? You want? You want what you want? You want,
- 9:30Speaker 1: you want to you want the orange cream. You want
- 9:33Speaker 1: a legit old school pepsi with a little ice in it.
- 9:35Speaker 1: You gotall put in the freezer about fifteen cold, doctor Pepper.
- 9:39Speaker 1: You got some barbecue water, yo, I like, doctor Pepper,
- 9:43Speaker 1: did you did you? Did you have the BlackBerry one? No?
- 9:45Speaker 1: I didn't know what he told us about the time
- 9:48Speaker 1: berry and the strawberries and cream. It's good, okay, seres
- 9:51Speaker 1: and cream sound I'm trying to tell you it's good.
- 9:53Speaker 1: It's like a stripper. M hmm. It's coming to the stage. Strawberries.
- 9:59Speaker 1: Ain't cream coming to the stage. I'm real cream. Oh well,
- 10:04Speaker 1: I don't want to see something about that. There's no
- 10:11Speaker 1: strip of bitch, look what you did in my past.
- 10:15Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm what you wanted. Nah that I'm sowing.
- 10:23Speaker 3: Go the fun to bed now all the way, Like,
- 10:27Speaker 3: don't even need to don't don't even wash the face
- 10:30Speaker 3: and brush.
- 10:33Speaker 1: Set change the sheets in the morning, ship to sweet,
- 10:39Speaker 1: So pretty much is uh, she didn't started like a
- 10:42Speaker 1: little series and I forgot her name right now, but
- 10:46Speaker 1: it's something Sidney Joe. That's it. Thank you Sidney Joe.
- 10:50Speaker 1: And she she she's doing like separate videos and the
- 10:53Speaker 1: videos is a group of For instance, in the group chat,
- 10:56Speaker 1: they were planning on going to a dinner like a
- 11:02Speaker 1: girl's night out. He was going to like it was
- 11:04Speaker 1: like supposed to be like ten of them. Well, one
- 11:06Speaker 1: of the girls reached out to them telling them that
- 11:09Speaker 1: she wanted to bring her boyfriend, and all the other
- 11:12Speaker 1: girls was like, well, nobody else is bringing you know,
- 11:14Speaker 1: they've had things when they bought boyfriends before. But she
- 11:16Speaker 1: was like, no, this is like a girl's night out.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Nobody is bringing their boyfriends. Like no, and we already
- 11:22Speaker 1: made the reservation. So then she comes back and she
- 11:25Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, you know, Justin really wants to go,
- 11:30Speaker 1: and he's mad at me because he felt like I'm
- 11:32Speaker 1: leaving him out and it's just no, no, I'm just
- 11:37Speaker 1: he feels like he's being left out, and this, that
- 11:39Speaker 1: and the third so the other girls. Two of the
- 11:42Speaker 1: girls are like roommates, so they're discussing this separately, and
- 11:45Speaker 1: they like, no, we don't really want him there, you know,
- 11:48Speaker 1: like there's some stuff we want to talk about that
- 11:49Speaker 1: we rather him not be a part of. Nobody's going
- 11:51Speaker 1: to really feel comfortable with a man being the one
- 11:53Speaker 1: thing to talk among your girls, blah blah blah blah. Understand.
- 11:57Speaker 1: So they all start having a conversation about it, so
- 11:59Speaker 1: that hell, he starts to feel some type of way,
- 12:03Speaker 1: and she's like, she's not, well, I'm probably gonna have
- 12:06Speaker 1: to sit this one out because Justin is going through
- 12:08Speaker 1: some things and I don't want to leave him by himself.
- 12:10Speaker 1: So so I'm probably just gonna, you know, sit this one.
- 12:14Speaker 2: Now.
- 12:14Speaker 1: We're already having issues, and I don't want to cause
- 12:17Speaker 1: further issues by him feeling like I'm leaving him alone.
- 12:19Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah. So I'm not gonna Justin, So
- 12:23Speaker 1: I'm not gonna Brandon, shut up, shut up. So oh,
- 12:34Speaker 1: so she's like, I don't want to leave him out
- 12:35Speaker 1: or whatever, So I'm just gonna sit this one out.
- 12:37Speaker 1: And then everybody was like, well, we hate that you're
- 12:39Speaker 1: not gonna come you know, we're really gonna miss you.
- 12:40Speaker 1: We've been wanting to see you, it's been a while.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. So then she leaves the group chat.
- 12:46Speaker 1: Her name is Haley. Haley leaves the group chat. So
- 12:49Speaker 1: the rest of the girls is like, what in the
- 12:50Speaker 1: fun So one of the other girls called like, oh,
- 12:53Speaker 1: what that's going on? Bla. So they all start discussing
- 12:56Speaker 1: it and they're like whatever, maybe we will just go
- 12:59Speaker 1: ahead and let him come. So they called to change
- 13:03Speaker 1: the reservation and they already teld them that the reservation
- 13:08Speaker 1: had been changed weeks priory, that somebody had already been
- 13:13Speaker 1: added to the reservation. They was like, oh, it should
- 13:15Speaker 1: go from it needs to go from eleven to nine,
- 13:19Speaker 1: eleven to ten. So they was like, oh, what a reserva? No?
- 13:22Speaker 1: Ten to nine? I'm sorry, but they said, well, the
- 13:24Speaker 1: reservation was initially for eleven people. And they like what
- 13:28Speaker 1: they was like, yeah, it was changed two weeks ago.
- 13:30Speaker 1: So they're like what the hell and they was like, yeah,
- 13:33Speaker 1: it was changed two weeks ago. By I think they
- 13:36Speaker 1: gave them the name and something. They give them the
- 13:37Speaker 1: name of the person who changed it, something like that.
- 13:39Speaker 1: So they all sitting there like what the fuck is
- 13:40Speaker 1: going on? So she had already changed the reservation, didn't
- 13:45Speaker 1: try to slide it in. He won't come so them.
- 13:49Speaker 1: So anyway, Haley ends up messaging them, calling one of
- 13:53Speaker 1: the other girls, explaining to her what was going on.
- 13:56Speaker 1: She was like, I'm so sorry that I left the group. Chad,
- 13:58Speaker 1: you know x y Z has had and then you know,
- 14:00Speaker 1: me and Justin been going through it. I've had a
- 14:02Speaker 1: lot going on this week. So they're like, you know,
- 14:03Speaker 1: we're sorry to hear that, but if you still want
- 14:06Speaker 1: to come, we'll call back and change the reservation. So
- 14:09Speaker 1: they went to change the reservation again, but they couldn't
- 14:11Speaker 1: change it. So but something like that, So they decided
- 14:14Speaker 1: to go to a steakhouse instead. So she was Haley
- 14:19Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, I called the state, I'll call
- 14:22Speaker 1: the steakhouse and make reservations. Blah blah blah blah blah.
- 14:25Speaker 1: So they all getting there and shipped together to go
- 14:27Speaker 1: to the steakhouse. One of the other girls had already
- 14:31Speaker 1: left to hit to the other restaurant, so they heard
- 14:32Speaker 1: up and called her and was like, no, we're going
- 14:34Speaker 1: to go to the steakhouse instead. She got to the
- 14:35Speaker 1: steakhouse with for anybody else there. She walks in and
- 14:37Speaker 1: who's sitting there? Justin And that's how that last episode ended.
- 14:41Speaker 1: So now we just waiting for the next part and
- 14:42Speaker 1: she needs to make it like twenty minutes because what
- 14:44Speaker 1: the fuck is going over right now? So it looks
- 14:46Speaker 1: like either one of two things happening. She invited them
- 14:48Speaker 1: because they didn't say they saw her. They said they
- 14:50Speaker 1: saw Justin sitting with a woman. No, the didn't say
- 14:53Speaker 1: Justin was sitting with anybody, so they said she no,
- 14:57Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's what I makes my stories up, be right.
- 15:00Speaker 1: They said they saw Justin sitting there. So she texts
- 15:02Speaker 1: the group check like, uh, Justin, Justin is here. So
- 15:07Speaker 1: now he's just waiting to see what the hell happens. Yeah,
- 15:11Speaker 1: So I think either she still invited Justin and didn't
- 15:17Speaker 1: tell them, or Justin decided to go do something else
- 15:24Speaker 1: and Justin might beat it with somebody else because he
- 15:26Speaker 1: was expecting them to go to the other place. That's
- 15:28Speaker 1: what I think happened. So we're waiting to see as
- 15:31Speaker 1: the recording of this podcast, which is April, the other
- 15:36Speaker 1: party hasn't come out yet, so.
- 15:39Speaker 2: Again, but she dropped the trailer yesterday, and he says
- 15:42Speaker 2: one day agoing it has five point three million views.
- 15:45Speaker 1: Yes, and people in the comment it's like, what the fuck?
- 15:47Speaker 1: Leslie Jones was in the comments, like girl the trailer.
- 15:50Speaker 1: These people are making videos, Kevin on stage just made
- 15:53Speaker 1: a video. Somebody else has made a video, like y'all
- 15:56Speaker 1: be following this druma. I said, this is the level
- 16:00Speaker 1: that I aspire to get to where people are we
- 16:03Speaker 1: already had we only hear one reshad so far, and
- 16:05Speaker 1: I was so damn excited about it. I was like,
- 16:07Speaker 1: y'all look, and I sent it in the group chat
- 16:08Speaker 1: when it Chick reshared our video. I want to get
- 16:11Speaker 1: to that level where people like that Kevi on stage
- 16:13Speaker 1: and and Leslie Jones and people like baby, do you
- 16:16Speaker 1: know how fucking excited it would be. All be on
- 16:18Speaker 1: Facebook Live like y'all see the which we famous. Yeah.
- 16:23Speaker 2: The first the first video for the group chat, she
- 16:26Speaker 2: dropped it five days ago. It has twenty five point
- 16:28Speaker 2: six million views. That's what I'm trying to three point
- 16:31Speaker 2: five million likes.
- 16:32Speaker 1: I don't want to go viral.
- 16:33Speaker 2: This says eighteen point five thousand comments, one hundred ninety
- 16:37Speaker 2: two thousand Stay, let's and three hundred and fourty definitely
- 16:41Speaker 2: one thousand shares.
- 16:43Speaker 1: That's crazy. And I came across it by accident. It
- 16:46Speaker 1: came up on my forward you page. When I see
- 16:49Speaker 1: your son, I gotta get high five, Like the second
- 16:51Speaker 1: part came up first, and I was like, oh shit,
- 16:53Speaker 1: and not we're back to her page, like we'll be
- 16:55Speaker 1: here and I forgot to hit the damn foal. But
- 16:57Speaker 1: but she's keep hopping. My algorithm is algorithm right now.
- 16:59Speaker 1: So she popped, so I'm gonna make sure when she
- 17:01Speaker 1: popped back up this this week. Uh yeah. I like
- 17:04Speaker 1: to follow people who do stories like that. That's how
- 17:06Speaker 1: I started following prey Line p because one of her
- 17:09Speaker 1: things popped to put my forward you page and I
- 17:10Speaker 1: was like, I'm sorry what And I went back and
- 17:13Speaker 1: scrolled all the way back there like when your story started,
- 17:15Speaker 1: and I started going through all her stories when she
- 17:17Speaker 1: was still putting most of them on TikTok, and then
- 17:19Speaker 1: she started her Patreon it and she was like, I'm
- 17:21Speaker 1: you know, I'm she puts samples out on TikTok for
- 17:23Speaker 1: the most like she'll put up one up and did
- 17:25Speaker 1: you That's how That's how it was. If it's worth it.
- 17:28Speaker 3: I'm gonna do with London boy like the one that
- 17:33Speaker 3: he keeping what he do like Kyrie.
- 17:35Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I follows London too. I follow him on
- 17:38Speaker 1: I G and look, I went and followed him on.
- 17:40Speaker 1: I G when they said TikTok was going away, I
- 17:41Speaker 1: went on, I G real quick like and you too, Yeah,
- 17:44Speaker 1: I went miss because he do the ship out them. Oh,
- 17:47Speaker 1: I got another one for y'all. Y'all need to follow.
- 17:50Speaker 1: Her name is Tie. Her name's Tie, and she uh
- 17:55Speaker 1: was doing a story called plot Twist. She just concluded
- 17:58Speaker 1: season three of it. That's story and she played all
- 18:00Speaker 1: the characters, just like how London didn't. She had London Charles,
- 18:04Speaker 1: that's his name. Ain't his name London Charles Delicious?
- 18:07Speaker 3: No, I thought his name was delicious.
- 18:10Speaker 1: I know that bitch. She got thirty two names. Ain't
- 18:12Speaker 1: nobody talking about her because we can't even identify her
- 18:15Speaker 1: in the lineup no more. She did have someone, she
- 18:18Speaker 1: had so much stay and work done. But yeah, I
- 18:21Speaker 1: follow him since we're talking about drama. But Tie her
- 18:24Speaker 1: plot toy story. She played all the parts. She played herself,
- 18:26Speaker 1: the girlfriend, the best friend, the other best friend, And
- 18:29Speaker 1: I just watch season the season finale, it's season three
- 18:32Speaker 1: on YouTube yesterday, and I got a little emotional because
- 18:34Speaker 1: I really wanted them to make up because it was
- 18:36Speaker 1: good friends and Cam said some stuff that she really
- 18:39Speaker 1: didn't mean while they was drunk, and now she just
- 18:42Speaker 1: started a new story about best friends. And the first
- 18:44Speaker 1: episode started off crazy where the best friend and the
- 18:47Speaker 1: boyfriend like they don't get along, but they really actually
- 18:49Speaker 1: sleeping together behind her back. M of the best friend
- 18:52Speaker 1: in the girlfriend I'm sorry because everything they is tis
- 18:56Speaker 1: a stud. But she played all the roles. The girl good.
- 18:59Speaker 1: They need to go boy and put her in and
- 19:02Speaker 1: she on the way. She want to wait, that girl
- 19:03Speaker 1: is good. Nah.
- 19:06Speaker 3: But man Keta, man Keta was talking about this Anthony
- 19:09Speaker 3: Others drama. Yeah, so my whole thing was.
- 19:18Speaker 1: So I said, so I'm saying here, like, okay.
- 19:23Speaker 3: So to my understanding for all the videos and ship
- 19:26Speaker 3: I watched and it's like, yo, he got Shorty that
- 19:30Speaker 3: they was fucking Shorty got pregnant. He said, look, I'm
- 19:32Speaker 3: gonna give you this money. I'm gonna give this hundred K.
- 19:36Speaker 1: But he got her and three of the bitches pregnant.
- 19:38Speaker 1: The same time.
- 19:39Speaker 3: This nigga said I don't want it, gave it a
- 19:41Speaker 3: hundred thousand and was like, get rid of it. She
- 19:44Speaker 3: moved because one of the other girls to have a motion,
- 19:49Speaker 3: but she moved shorty moved. She moved on California had
- 19:56Speaker 3: the baby. This nigga said, all right, damn fuck it. Listen,
- 19:58Speaker 3: I'll give you it's a child's support off.
- 20:03Speaker 1: Top and he gone, I said, this is sad. Themb
- 20:06Speaker 1: person in this situation that I feel bad for is
- 20:07Speaker 1: the child because the child is not gonna have a
- 20:10Speaker 1: father because he likes the nothing bitches and didn't tell
- 20:12Speaker 1: him to get abortions. And then the mother decided to
- 20:17Speaker 1: keep a baby for a check, like I'm still so
- 20:19Speaker 1: and she old enough to know better.
- 20:21Speaker 3: She our age but no, but like twenty three. But
- 20:23Speaker 3: that was the that was the thing that that's the
- 20:25Speaker 3: thing that killed me. Like this nigga told you he
- 20:27Speaker 3: don't want it. I feel bad for him, for the
- 20:29Speaker 3: baby he don't want it, or him because y'all are
- 20:33Speaker 3: adults that made an adult decision. And then and now
- 20:36Speaker 3: this child is gonna be the only one that's gonna
- 20:37Speaker 3: be affected by it. And he just said he don't
- 20:39Speaker 3: he telling you he don't want it. And then it's like,
- 20:41Speaker 3: at this point, oh, you you're accepting responsibility. You're accepting
- 20:44Speaker 3: responsibility for it. He said, he's signing the rights over,
- 20:48Speaker 3: signing the rights over. He's trying to give you eighteen
- 20:50Speaker 3: years the child's support.
- 20:51Speaker 1: And then another bitch right behind him, she's sticking beside him.
- 20:53Speaker 1: The girl. The girl he just that's his girlfriend currently.
- 20:56Speaker 1: And then I think she's currently pregnant. She she in
- 21:00Speaker 1: her thirties too, and she that's chief keep baby mama
- 21:03Speaker 1: one of them.
- 21:04Speaker 3: Hey, yo, all I said, saying I talk. I was like, Yo,
- 21:07Speaker 3: that's crazy, that's crazy. That's crazy as shit. You're still
- 21:12Speaker 3: trying to hang on for a check with this nigga
- 21:14Speaker 3: or this nigga telling you, I, look, I'll give you
- 21:15Speaker 3: all the money up front and leave me the fuck alone.
- 21:18Speaker 1: That's what you said, leave me the fuck alone. I
- 21:21Speaker 1: don't I don't want it.
- 21:22Speaker 3: And but it created the conversation of if the man
- 21:27Speaker 3: already tell you that he don't want it, now your body,
- 21:30Speaker 3: your choice, Your body, your choice. So if he's telling
- 21:33Speaker 3: you that he don't want it, but you continue, but
- 21:36Speaker 3: you but you still go through with the pregnancy, why
- 21:39Speaker 3: are you taking this nigga down for child support.
- 21:42Speaker 1: I mean, he's still legally responsible. But here's my thing.
- 21:45Speaker 1: It takes two right. And I don't know about nobody else,
- 21:48Speaker 1: but I had sex education in like fifth or sixth grade,
- 21:51Speaker 1: and from my understanding of the human bodies, there are
- 21:54Speaker 1: ways to prevent pregnancy on both ends, and neither one
- 21:57Speaker 1: of y'all took any of those cautions to prevent a pregnancy.
- 22:01Speaker 1: So you both are responsible. Yes, he told her he
- 22:04Speaker 1: did not want that baby, and which is legally is
- 22:08Speaker 1: his right? I mean, not legally, but which.
- 22:09Speaker 3: Is what I'm saying, it's right. However, if you signed
- 22:13Speaker 3: over rights, if you said.
- 22:14Speaker 1: Legally, financially he taking care of child because he giving
- 22:16Speaker 1: her all his money, and she talking about she took
- 22:18Speaker 1: him for child support because her family has been helping
- 22:21Speaker 1: her out and she not working right now. And other
- 22:22Speaker 1: than why you get pregnant, Well, you knew you wasn't
- 22:24Speaker 1: working before you was trying to get a check. Come up,
- 22:27Speaker 1: you trying to get a check. Can you imagine not
- 22:29Speaker 1: telling your child how they was conceived? Oh? Well, you
- 22:31Speaker 1: know your daddy was a baseball player, got the biggest contract,
- 22:33Speaker 1: and I just busted open like you ain't know your
- 22:35Speaker 1: lesson from the first child.
- 22:36Speaker 3: No, but then but then, I mean what you're saying
- 22:39Speaker 3: that then it's crazy in terms of two like yo,
- 22:41Speaker 3: you didn't expect him to say, I'm gonna sign my
- 22:43Speaker 3: rights or sign.
- 22:44Speaker 1: Rights so fact, none of that.
- 22:45Speaker 3: She thought she addicate all responsibility. I will give you
- 22:49Speaker 3: eighteen years a child support leave. Meet the fuck al off,
- 22:52Speaker 3: that's what he said. I don't want to hear ship.
- 22:54Speaker 1: About that kid. I don't want to hear none of that.
- 22:56Speaker 1: Meet the fuck a off. Shit is sickening. It's sick.
- 22:59Speaker 1: Feel bad for that child because both of y'all made
- 23:01Speaker 1: a damn decision to serve you don't want no babies,
- 23:04Speaker 1: and you know you don't want no babies. Either go
- 23:05Speaker 1: get snipped or use a fucking condom one or two.
- 23:08Speaker 1: Because it ain't like you can't say she trapped you.
- 23:11Speaker 1: How in twenty twenty five, y'all still getting trapped unless
- 23:14Speaker 1: she took the condom and inserted it in herself. How
- 23:16Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, y'all still get I don't want
- 23:18Speaker 1: to hear that bullshit unless she poked holes in the condom. Well,
- 23:20Speaker 1: she took the condom and and and and and and
- 23:22Speaker 1: and and and inserted it in herself. How and the
- 23:26Speaker 1: fuck they say wants enough hit the head now if
- 23:29Speaker 1: it's inside the condom allegedly ship That's what I heard
- 23:33Speaker 1: because that happened to another basketball player. That's what he said.
- 23:35Speaker 1: He used to uh, he used the protection and the
- 23:38Speaker 1: girl still was pregnant, and then later came out that
- 23:41Speaker 1: that's what she did. He do the condom in the
- 23:42Speaker 1: trash can. That's why they tell him to flush the
- 23:44Speaker 1: motherfuckers or poor something some ship something and kill it.
- 23:51Speaker 1: Not some no, some mountain dew. They said, Mountain Duke
- 23:55Speaker 1: kills for himself. They used to say that ship bag
- 23:59Speaker 1: and today, why are you drinking all that? Mount dude?
- 24:01Speaker 1: Don't gonndle spur. I was like what, but yeah, that
- 24:05Speaker 1: that I don't wanting to talk about that because, like
- 24:07Speaker 1: I told, I said that on Facebook. I was like
- 24:10Speaker 1: I said, I blame both FuMB equally. You knew he
- 24:12Speaker 1: ain't want a handle baby. He knew he want a
- 24:14Speaker 1: handle baby. Neither one of y'all took thecautions. Now you
- 24:16Speaker 1: having a baby for a check and his mother efforts like, oh,
- 24:19Speaker 1: I'm gonna take care of the baby. Financially, but I
- 24:20Speaker 1: dont want nothing to do the damn baby. That's sickening
- 24:22Speaker 1: to have somebody on the earth with your DNA and
- 24:24Speaker 1: you don't want I want to take care of I
- 24:26Speaker 1: want nothing to do with him. But I digress. What
- 24:28Speaker 1: we're talking about? Moving along? What's how topic being? Because
- 24:32Speaker 1: I'm this fuckery so the topic is your topic?
- 24:36Speaker 2: You had us watch this documentary on it called about
- 24:40Speaker 2: a profile in the case of the Atlanta child murders,
- 24:42Speaker 2: and child is okay.
- 24:44Speaker 1: So if y'all don't know about the Atlanta child murders,
- 24:47Speaker 1: this is a case that actually started back in the seventies,
- 24:51Speaker 1: the late seventies, like nineteen seventy nine, and it centered
- 24:54Speaker 1: around a bunch a lot of African American children and
- 24:59Speaker 1: a couple of out going missing and turning up under lopped.
- 25:05Speaker 1: The documentary popped up on Hulu. It's from two thousand,
- 25:09Speaker 1: which I didn't realize at first, but it's from the
- 25:11Speaker 1: year two thousand and it pretty much talks about the
- 25:14Speaker 1: case and talks about the doubts about the case, about
- 25:17Speaker 1: the person. The man name is Wayne Williams, who ultimately
- 25:20Speaker 1: was arrested, tried, and convicted of two out of the
- 25:25Speaker 1: twenty seven murders, I believe it was altogether, and it
- 25:29Speaker 1: was the two adults out of the twenty seven. The
- 25:32Speaker 1: rest of them were between the ages of I believe
- 25:34Speaker 1: seven and seventeen. So it pretty much talks about the case.
- 25:38Speaker 1: It interviews Wayne Williams along with former prosecutors, police officers,
- 25:46Speaker 1: all of that and that were in office around that time,
- 25:50Speaker 1: and it just basically if you watch it, to me,
- 25:53Speaker 1: it casted a lot of doubt based on a lot
- 25:55Speaker 1: of the information that was provided. So I'm trying to
- 25:57Speaker 1: start from the beginning and get y'all, you know, some
- 26:00Speaker 1: key clues or not key clues, but some key points
- 26:03Speaker 1: from what happened. And then you know, Brandon and Aaron
- 26:06Speaker 1: washed it as well. They'll give their commentary on it
- 26:08Speaker 1: or whatever in between. So pretty much like I said,
- 26:13Speaker 1: these murders started around the fall of nineteen seventy nine.
- 26:18Speaker 1: But you know, children of African American descent were being
- 26:22Speaker 1: kidnapped and later found uh going, you know, were missing
- 26:25Speaker 1: and later found dead. Useph Bell was one of the
- 26:30Speaker 1: first people, first children who went missing in November of
- 26:36Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine. His body was later found in the
- 26:38Speaker 1: abandoned schoolhouse. He had been missing for eighteen days allegedly,
- 26:42Speaker 1: I think his mother said she sent him to the
- 26:44Speaker 1: store or something like that, and he never came back.
- 26:47Speaker 1: His mother and other mothers. After that, some other children
- 26:53Speaker 1: started coming up missing as well. And you stab some
- 26:56Speaker 1: mother and other mothers of the victims who were coming
- 26:58Speaker 1: up missing and being found in with the areas and
- 27:02Speaker 1: behind buildings and all kinds of stuff like that, they
- 27:04Speaker 1: decided to come together and go to the mayor at
- 27:09Speaker 1: the time, who was Maynard Jackson, and forced him to
- 27:13Speaker 1: do something about their children going missing because they felt
- 27:15Speaker 1: like nobody was taking them seriously when their children were
- 27:18Speaker 1: going missing. And so Maynard Jackson on July seventeenth, nineteen eighty,
- 27:25Speaker 1: this was before any of us were born, announced the
- 27:29Speaker 1: formation of a special test for us to investigate these
- 27:31Speaker 1: murders because at these points, at this point, they were
- 27:34Speaker 1: just building up, building up, building up, one behind the other.
- 27:37Speaker 1: Like I said, At the end, it ended up being
- 27:38Speaker 1: I think allegedly twenty seven who were linked to this case.
- 27:45Speaker 1: And then Atlanta Public Safety Commission and Lee Brown went
- 27:49Speaker 1: on tv acsing for help from the community and other
- 27:52Speaker 1: people in the investigation trying to figure out what was
- 27:55Speaker 1: happening to these missing black children. Rumors started circulating because
- 28:00Speaker 1: it was only missing black children that the KKK was involved,
- 28:06Speaker 1: and that was never confirmed or denied, of course, but
- 28:10Speaker 1: to the people of the community, it made sense. These
- 28:12Speaker 1: people are scared their children are going missing. Their children
- 28:15Speaker 1: who are just walking home or going to the store
- 28:17Speaker 1: for them or running errands and stuff are coming. Your
- 28:20Speaker 1: children leaving, they're not coming back. So these are rightfully
- 28:23Speaker 1: so of these people are scared. Shortly after the task
- 28:27Speaker 1: force was brought together in October of nineteen eighty, there
- 28:35Speaker 1: was an explosion at a daycare center. They said the
- 28:37Speaker 1: explosion was so bad they blew the roof off the building.
- 28:40Speaker 1: Children went flying out of the building. Four children were
- 28:43Speaker 1: killed instantly. The other children survived. So now people are
- 28:47Speaker 1: really upping hot because they're like, now not only is
- 28:49Speaker 1: our children coming missing, but now they blowing up shit,
- 28:53Speaker 1: They're blowing up daycades, Like who does that. It was
- 28:56Speaker 1: later found though, that the daycare explosion was caused by
- 28:59Speaker 1: a faulty baller, So it wasn't somebody you know, wouldn't
- 29:04Speaker 1: put a bomb in or nothing. It was a faulty
- 29:05Speaker 1: Buller they're closed, you know, caused it that had been
- 29:10Speaker 1: Later city councilmen off the Langford started the effort called
- 29:14Speaker 1: Saturday Searches, which had them going out trying to see
- 29:17Speaker 1: if they can find these other children who were missing,
- 29:19Speaker 1: if possibly they can find them alive or whatever. And
- 29:22Speaker 1: on the first day of the search, which was October
- 29:24Speaker 1: the eighteenth, nineteen eighty, which was five days after their disclosure,
- 29:29Speaker 1: they found the body of seven year old Latania Wilson
- 29:33Speaker 1: and a whated area. So the bodies are steady building up.
- 29:38Speaker 1: After more bodies were found on these searches, they you know,
- 29:41Speaker 1: the community and the people of Atlanta were appealing to
- 29:48Speaker 1: the people in Washington to help them. So Washington decided
- 29:51Speaker 1: to send down two hundred FBI agents to assist in
- 29:55Speaker 1: you know, trying to get to the bottom of what
- 29:57Speaker 1: was going on while these children were going missing. One
- 30:01Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars award ended up being offered, leading to
- 30:04Speaker 1: the capture of the killer. Later, the award was increased
- 30:09Speaker 1: to five hundred thousand dollars due to a donation from
- 30:12Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali the Greatest that flow like a butterflies thing
- 30:15Speaker 1: like b Russell. Later on a concert to raise money
- 30:22Speaker 1: was put on by Frank Sinatra and Sam Davis Junior,
- 30:25Speaker 1: so it was increased even more. The money from that
- 30:27Speaker 1: was put towards the reward to you know, leading to
- 30:31Speaker 1: the cap sure of the person who was doing this
- 30:32Speaker 1: to these children. Yeah, yeah, Sammy Davis Junior, ju ju.
- 30:42Speaker 1: That was not playing, y'all. That was not We had
- 30:46Speaker 1: our white events this morning. So later on President Reagan,
- 30:56Speaker 1: who was the president at the time, appointed Vice President
- 31:00Speaker 1: Bush the first Bush George, hww is the son you right?
- 31:09Speaker 1: My bad? Is one of them? Georgia's my bad? You right?
- 31:12Speaker 1: H And he pointed Vice President Bush to help coordinate
- 31:18Speaker 1: efforts to solve the murders. While it seemed like they
- 31:22Speaker 1: were trying to do something, the mothers of these children
- 31:25Speaker 1: were still frustrated because they felt like enough wasn't being
- 31:27Speaker 1: done because it was still children at this point coming
- 31:29Speaker 1: up missing, and then later on the two adults were
- 31:32Speaker 1: added to that number two, so you know, they they
- 31:37Speaker 1: were frustrated, rightfully, so, you know, their babies is coming
- 31:40Speaker 1: up missing. What the fuck is going on? You know?
- 31:42Speaker 1: So in early nineteen eighty one, fibers were collected from
- 31:48Speaker 1: several of the bodies trying to link a killer to
- 31:53Speaker 1: the murderers. They was like, Okay, the same fiber is
- 31:55Speaker 1: on all these people. We need to try to figure
- 31:57Speaker 1: out what this fiber is. I think it ended up
- 31:59Speaker 1: being some kind of carpet fibers or something like that,
- 32:02Speaker 1: but a lot of them had that same fiber. After
- 32:06Speaker 1: that happened, four more bodies ended up being recovered from
- 32:10Speaker 1: the Chattahoochee River, and it was law enforcement felt like
- 32:14Speaker 1: that was because they announced it on the news. They
- 32:16Speaker 1: felt like that's the first time they actually started finding
- 32:19Speaker 1: bodies in the water before they were in like wooded areas,
- 32:21Speaker 1: abandoned buildings, stuff like that, and they felt like that
- 32:23Speaker 1: was the killer's way of trying to like pretty much
- 32:25Speaker 1: watch away evidence. That's why the bodies started coming up
- 32:28Speaker 1: in the water. It was at this point, like I said,
- 32:32Speaker 1: the count came to twenty seven victims. And but although
- 32:38Speaker 1: these bodies were being thrown in the water, it said
- 32:40Speaker 1: that experts were still able to recover fibers from these
- 32:43Speaker 1: people's bodies, and a lot of the fibers were matching.
- 32:49Speaker 1: So after they started finding bodies in the Chattahoochee River,
- 32:53Speaker 1: they started doing nighttime stakeouts around different areas of the
- 32:58Speaker 1: river to see if maybe they can catch somebody disposing
- 33:00Speaker 1: of a body, or if they saw anybody suspicious or
- 33:03Speaker 1: whatever or made the twenty second of nineteen eighty one,
- 33:08Speaker 1: an officer here's what he thinks is somebody throwing a
- 33:11Speaker 1: body or something into the water. So they start to investigate,
- 33:16Speaker 1: and they come across Wayne Williams, who is driving across
- 33:21Speaker 1: the bridge, so they pull him over. He's questioned as
- 33:25Speaker 1: to why he's around there at that time of night,
- 33:26Speaker 1: because apparently it was like two in the morning. He's
- 33:29Speaker 1: questioning why he's out there at that time of night,
- 33:33Speaker 1: and he's saying that he was on his way home
- 33:37Speaker 1: and he was in search of a payphone to try
- 33:40Speaker 1: to call up somebody who was supposed to have a
- 33:42Speaker 1: meeting with the next day to verify the location. And
- 33:45Speaker 1: he never got out of his vehicle. He didn't throw
- 33:47Speaker 1: anything out of his vehicle. So they pulled him over,
- 33:49Speaker 1: they questioned him, they searched his vehicle, and ultimately he
- 33:52Speaker 1: was let go. Five days later, on made the twenty seventh,
- 33:56Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one, another person's body was found in the river.
- 34:01Speaker 1: This person was in their twenties. Though this wasn't you know,
- 34:04Speaker 1: wasn't fitting the profile of it being you know, children
- 34:06Speaker 1: again between the ages of seven and seventeen. Later on,
- 34:12Speaker 1: the cops revisited Wayne Williams and he was questioned again.
- 34:17Speaker 1: He was twenty three years old at the time. He
- 34:20Speaker 1: was he had hit several different jobs, He still lived
- 34:24Speaker 1: at home with his parents. He didn't have no type
- 34:26Speaker 1: of criminal record, you know, anything like that. He was
- 34:29Speaker 1: questioned again because again they had stopped him at their
- 34:31Speaker 1: ribb and the next thing, you know, ifaw, they later
- 34:32Speaker 1: they find a body. So at the time whatever, they
- 34:37Speaker 1: questioned him. His job at the time, he was a
- 34:40Speaker 1: talent scout and they say he would go around, you know,
- 34:44Speaker 1: find the people who you know, wanted to be in
- 34:46Speaker 1: the business and who sang and whatever else. So they
- 34:51Speaker 1: found that suspicious because like, you know, to them, they
- 34:54Speaker 1: like they I feel like they created a whole story
- 34:56Speaker 1: and they here, oh he had talent scout. Oh he
- 34:58Speaker 1: that's how he's getting his victims. That's how I felt,
- 35:02Speaker 1: you know. So the police started to do surveillance on
- 35:05Speaker 1: him and you know, following him around saveiling his house
- 35:10Speaker 1: to see if he was acting suspiciously. Following him different
- 35:14Speaker 1: places and stuff, and Williams got so frustrated with them
- 35:16Speaker 1: following him that he threatened to go to court to
- 35:19Speaker 1: prevent them from follow him because he felt like he
- 35:21Speaker 1: was being harassed and he hadn't done anything rightfully. So right,
- 35:26Speaker 1: so Bob is right there, Hey, But yeah, so they're talking,
- 35:29Speaker 1: you know, it's getting to the news and stuff that
- 35:30Speaker 1: they had questioned somebody and this and the third And
- 35:35Speaker 1: it was said in the documentary that the district attorney
- 35:37Speaker 1: at the time, which I forget his name, I forgot
- 35:39Speaker 1: the putting in my notes to my bad but he
- 35:42Speaker 1: felt pressured to making the RUSS. So on June twenty first,
- 35:46Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one, which was Father's Day, they went to
- 35:48Speaker 1: William's house and they arrested him and he was charged
- 35:51Speaker 1: with the murders of twenty seven year old Nathaniel called
- 35:57Speaker 1: Him and twenty one year old Jimmy Ray Pain, which
- 36:00Speaker 1: were toward the oldest of the victims, because like I said,
- 36:02Speaker 1: the other victims were younger, under the age of seventeen.
- 36:06Speaker 1: So they charged him with their murders. Many people who
- 36:10Speaker 1: spoke in this documentary, even some of the for law
- 36:13Speaker 1: enforcement and stuff like that said that they felt like
- 36:16Speaker 1: he was a scapegoat. They felt like because he was
- 36:19Speaker 1: the only one that had been questioned and was acting suspiciously,
- 36:22Speaker 1: that the district attorney felt like, we got to solve
- 36:25Speaker 1: this case. He's the only thing we have right now.
- 36:26Speaker 1: We're gonna put the shit on him, so he I believe.
- 36:31Speaker 1: He stayed in jail until his trial started January sixth,
- 36:34Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two. During his trial, the judge allowed information
- 36:41Speaker 1: for ten of the other murders to be introduced during
- 36:46Speaker 1: the child information about those other murders, although he was
- 36:49Speaker 1: not being charged with those. He was only being charged
- 36:51Speaker 1: with those the two adult murders. They had no evidence
- 36:56Speaker 1: that this was him. The carpet fibers and stuff that
- 36:59Speaker 1: they that they went to his apartment, I mean, they
- 37:01Speaker 1: took stuff out of his vehicles, They took samples from
- 37:06Speaker 1: his u the drugs, and the carpet in his home,
- 37:08Speaker 1: his bid, all kinds of stuff. From what they were
- 37:11Speaker 1: saying in this documentary, just it didn't match. It didn't match.
- 37:14Speaker 1: So they really only had circumstantial They didn't really have
- 37:16Speaker 1: circumstantial evidence. Honestly, me up, it was circumstance. Yeah, like
- 37:22Speaker 1: they didn't really and that was barely they neither, Like
- 37:24Speaker 1: they just was. It's like they were like, Oh, somebody
- 37:26Speaker 1: gonna get change for this ship. But how you going?
- 37:28Speaker 3: But how you add outside information, add outside information to
- 37:31Speaker 3: a case. It's not even that's not even part of
- 37:33Speaker 3: what I'm being charged.
- 37:34Speaker 2: They just exactly, I think because they were under so
- 37:36Speaker 2: much pressure from the news media and like I think
- 37:39Speaker 2: they mentioned at one point in the documentary where companies
- 37:42Speaker 2: were starting to pull out of the conventions and yeah
- 37:46Speaker 2: in Georgia, so that the government they had to do something.
- 37:49Speaker 1: They were losing money. Yeah, so okay. So two of
- 37:53Speaker 1: the motives that they used at the trial was that
- 37:56Speaker 1: Williams was a sexual predator. That was one, and then
- 38:00Speaker 1: the second one they used is that he hit a deep,
- 38:02Speaker 1: deep loathing loading for other black people. And he was like,
- 38:08Speaker 1: I don't understand where they would get that from. I
- 38:10Speaker 1: don't hate other black people, like I'm black. Like it
- 38:12Speaker 1: don't make sense. I don't. It's like they were grasping
- 38:15Speaker 1: at straws. At this point, Williams decided to take the
- 38:18Speaker 1: stand of his own defense. When he took the stand
- 38:21Speaker 1: of his own defense, he said he was being really
- 38:23Speaker 1: you know jumire No. Initially he's being very demure, laid bag,
- 38:28Speaker 1: just answering their questions. He said, his defense attorney told him,
- 38:33Speaker 1: you need to be more aggressive. You need to to fight,
- 38:36Speaker 1: You need to, you know, show them that you're not
- 38:39Speaker 1: you know, you're not taking those stuff. So they said
- 38:41Speaker 1: when he on I guess the third day that he
- 38:43Speaker 1: was on the stand, he became aggressive, He got angry,
- 38:47Speaker 1: he called the the the the prosecutor out of his name,
- 38:55Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff, you know, and that actually made
- 38:58Speaker 1: him look worse, make him look better. So it seemed
- 39:01Speaker 1: like he had sufficient counseling. So he was convicted of
- 39:11Speaker 1: the two murders on February twenty seventh, nineteen eighty two,
- 39:14Speaker 1: after only one day of joy deliberation yep, and he
- 39:18Speaker 1: was sentenced to two life sentences. Despite the outcry from
- 39:26Speaker 1: the victims of the other people who were of the
- 39:29Speaker 1: other children who were murdered the other twenty four to
- 39:31Speaker 1: twenty five victims, they used him being found guilty of
- 39:36Speaker 1: those two murders to close the rest of the cases
- 39:38Speaker 1: with no further investigation. The victims' families were pissed because
- 39:41Speaker 1: they like, we don't even believe that he did this.
- 39:43Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense, but they felt like that was
- 39:46Speaker 1: their way of closing the rest of cases. Oh he
- 39:47Speaker 1: did it, we just can't prove that he did it. Well,
- 39:49Speaker 1: we can prove they did these too. He did these two,
- 39:51Speaker 1: even though they really didn't prove that he fucking did it.
- 39:56Speaker 1: They said that the killings appeared to have stopped after
- 39:58Speaker 1: Wayne was convicted. However, the chief medical examiner at the time,
- 40:05Speaker 1: doctor Joseph Burton, said that the profile changed as far
- 40:10Speaker 1: as the killings, but the killings never stopped. He said
- 40:13Speaker 1: that was not true. They never stopped. The profile just
- 40:15Speaker 1: changed as far as how they were being murdered.
- 40:18Speaker 3: But then they say, but I remember saying, I remember
- 40:21Speaker 3: saying for one of the people that one of the
- 40:22Speaker 3: people that died that was like, yo, they died, they died,
- 40:24Speaker 3: are like aphixiation, Like.
- 40:27Speaker 1: But they tried to put it as a homicide trade
- 40:29Speaker 1: it was initially undetermined. Yeah, they changed it to a homicide,
- 40:32Speaker 1: but they said, it actually looks like he died of.
- 40:34Speaker 3: An X like I saw, Yeah, I saw appixiation. I
- 40:37Speaker 3: saw ahixiation written on written on the written on the paper,
- 40:41Speaker 3: like I said, you're watching this ship and I'm listening.
- 40:42Speaker 3: I'm listening to him, like listening to him to and
- 40:45Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah.
- 40:46Speaker 1: It was crazy. So the public safety director at the time,
- 40:51Speaker 1: his name is Richard dick Hand. Why that tickled the
- 40:56Speaker 1: ship out of me yesterday? I don't I'm sorry. We
- 40:59Speaker 1: had his name was dick Hand, and I was like,
- 41:02Speaker 1: that's not their man real name. And I looked him
- 41:04Speaker 1: up and his name was Richard dick Hand. Dick is
- 41:06Speaker 1: of course a nickname for Richard, which I still ain't
- 41:08Speaker 1: figured that out on all my thirty almost thirty nine
- 41:10Speaker 1: years on his earth. That's my detective dick Hands. However, baby,
- 41:15Speaker 1: the way I would giggle, let me search you. So
- 41:18Speaker 1: he was the rector of public safety at the time
- 41:22Speaker 1: in d Kal County, and he said that the list
- 41:25Speaker 1: that was created by the task for us of these murders,
- 41:28Speaker 1: trying to link all of these murders together, was artificial
- 41:30Speaker 1: at best. But in his own opinion.
- 41:33Speaker 2: Was he he was one that came up with the
- 41:35Speaker 2: book the list, I believe, so him in the.
- 41:39Speaker 1: Was he was he an investigator? Was he like a
- 41:41Speaker 1: like a like a some kind of he was some
- 41:43Speaker 1: kind of investigator? Was him? And another guy who was
- 41:45Speaker 1: some kind of investigator, Dick got together. I can't remember exactly,
- 41:49Speaker 1: but he said, and he didn't he didn't believe Wayne
- 41:51Speaker 1: Williams was was guilty of the murders. I didn't either,
- 41:54Speaker 1: like I did. The more I listened, the less convincing.
- 41:58Speaker 1: But let me, let me he got the rest of
- 41:59Speaker 1: the point. So then he said, the most important piece
- 42:03Speaker 1: of evidence was the fibers that they were trying to
- 42:08Speaker 1: use to link all of the victims together. He was like, allegedly,
- 42:12Speaker 1: a lot of the fibers did not match. They were
- 42:14Speaker 1: different kinds of fibers, and they can usually tell what
- 42:16Speaker 1: these fibers came from based on how they were made,
- 42:18Speaker 1: based on the design of the fibers, and a lot
- 42:21Speaker 1: of them that they were trying to link together they
- 42:22Speaker 1: did not match at all.
- 42:26Speaker 3: Green something and he said, yeah, and he said tow o.
- 42:30Speaker 1: The fibers that were found on one of the victims
- 42:33Speaker 1: were alleged to have metched vehicles owned by Wayne Williams.
- 42:37Speaker 1: But he said that wasn't possible because the the vehicles,
- 42:41Speaker 1: it was two different vehicles that Wayne would drive, neither
- 42:43Speaker 1: one was in his possession at the time. That that
- 42:46Speaker 1: that that that person was murdered. They one was in
- 42:49Speaker 1: the shop and one was with a family member, so
- 42:52Speaker 1: miles away, like in another county somewhere else.
- 42:54Speaker 2: The the persons already been dead buried.
- 42:59Speaker 1: George's hugeitch. Yeah.
- 43:01Speaker 2: But then also on top of that, the other vehicle
- 43:03Speaker 2: that they claimed was a part of it was in
- 43:05Speaker 2: the shop at the time of.
- 43:06Speaker 1: The the time that this person was murdered, which was
- 43:09Speaker 1: one of a twenty eight year old victim who had
- 43:12Speaker 1: been stabbed. And they still added, oh no, so then
- 43:15Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I did skip over one of my my,
- 43:17Speaker 1: my points. So they also said that they found type
- 43:21Speaker 1: B blood and one of William's cause that matched none
- 43:25Speaker 1: of the victory, none of the victims, but it was
- 43:27Speaker 1: linked to a allegedly, they tried to link it to
- 43:30Speaker 1: another victim who was never on the list, which was
- 43:33Speaker 1: a twenty eight year old man who had been stabbed.
- 43:35Speaker 2: And they said, and that investigator was like, it's you
- 43:39Speaker 2: try to match a blood sample to a person, not
- 43:42Speaker 2: a person.
- 43:42Speaker 1: To a blood sample. They didn't actually metch the blood sample.
- 43:46Speaker 1: They just messed the blood type, right, so that of
- 43:48Speaker 1: a victim, but they added him to that list anyway,
- 43:50Speaker 1: which I think initially ended up bringing their listen like
- 43:52Speaker 1: twenty eight. I think that they killed me. It was
- 43:54Speaker 1: it was like it was a bunch. It was. It
- 43:56Speaker 1: was a list of kids and then just two adults.
- 44:00Speaker 3: Like even even even you know us watching us watching
- 44:04Speaker 3: kids of criminal minds. It's like, yo, you don't just
- 44:06Speaker 3: jump from from kids to adults.
- 44:11Speaker 1: Kid, it didn't make sense, Okay. So then also I
- 44:16Speaker 1: like Jimmy the kids and you my thing, but.
- 44:21Speaker 3: Not even but even still like you don't you don't
- 44:24Speaker 3: just drop like the criminal profile.
- 44:25Speaker 1: You know, you just don't change your ship just on
- 44:27Speaker 1: a whim like this.
- 44:28Speaker 3: This is consistent twenty like twenty like twenty four, twenty
- 44:32Speaker 3: six kids.
- 44:33Speaker 1: And then two random adults, right like damn. Also one
- 44:37Speaker 1: of the victims that he was actually convicted for murdering,
- 44:40Speaker 1: Jimmy Ray Payne. His his death was the one that
- 44:43Speaker 1: was listening listed as under undetermined at first, and then
- 44:47Speaker 1: come to find out it appears that he actually died
- 44:50Speaker 1: from an accidental drowning. They and this was after he
- 44:54Speaker 1: was convicted of his murder. Also another victim that was
- 44:58Speaker 1: added to the list by an A. Cliffor Jones. Cliff
- 45:01Speaker 1: Jones mother had sent him to the store. He disappeared
- 45:04Speaker 1: and never came back. Witnesses came forward and testified that
- 45:09Speaker 1: he was sex that Clifford Jones was sexually assaulted and
- 45:14Speaker 1: unallowed by two different men, neither of which was Williams.
- 45:18Speaker 1: Sorry that was. That was. And then one of the
- 45:24Speaker 1: men who was named, name is Jamie is Jamie Brooks James.
- 45:29Speaker 1: But Jamie and the other person were never charged. Jamie
- 45:32Speaker 1: Brooks was later charged for a separate rape and murder.
- 45:35Speaker 1: And that's that's the one that died. That's the one
- 45:38Speaker 1: he ended up dying from hides in prison.
- 45:41Speaker 3: I said, I don't believe that killer was Jamie Brooks, Okay,
- 45:45Speaker 3: just because he just because he's dead, don't mean that
- 45:47Speaker 3: they serve in justice.
- 45:49Speaker 1: They served justice, but it was it was telling that
- 45:52Speaker 1: there were parents who they interviewed.
- 45:53Speaker 2: And I'm not sure when a lot of this footage,
- 45:55Speaker 2: like the footage was film, because it seemed like it
- 45:57Speaker 2: was filmed back in the eighties. But you have parents
- 46:00Speaker 2: saying Wayne Williams did not kill my child. There is
- 46:03Speaker 2: no way, just based off of the evidence that was
- 46:05Speaker 2: presented in court the way they explained it, there is
- 46:07Speaker 2: no way possible and I don't believe that Wayne Williams
- 46:10Speaker 2: killed my child.
- 46:12Speaker 1: So several of that was my final point. Several of
- 46:15Speaker 1: the victims family members still maintained that they did not
- 46:20Speaker 1: believe Williams was involved in the murder of their children,
- 46:22Speaker 1: and they felt like that the case was rushed and
- 46:25Speaker 1: based on the the you know, the the pressure from
- 46:31Speaker 1: the government and f beyond all the other stuff, they
- 46:33Speaker 1: just charged Williams because he was closest thing to charge.
- 46:35Speaker 1: And as of when the documentary was done, Williams still
- 46:40Speaker 1: maintained his innocence. He says he didn't murder people he
- 46:43Speaker 1: was convicted of any of us know.
- 46:45Speaker 3: But but did you have people at the end of
- 46:47Speaker 3: it when they was like in two thousand and seven,
- 46:48Speaker 3: two thousand and seven, it was like it was like
- 46:50Speaker 3: then they eve and it's came up, and that shit
- 46:52Speaker 3: came up in conclusive neither it neither confirmed, eliminated him.
- 46:57Speaker 3: So personally I said that at the end of it,
- 47:00Speaker 3: like yo, what the fuck yo, like like sitting there
- 47:02Speaker 3: like what the fuck?
- 47:04Speaker 1: Well, my little what the fuck face? Like?
- 47:07Speaker 3: So what it sounds like is a lot of this
- 47:10Speaker 3: ship was going on, and what you did was you
- 47:13Speaker 3: just found a random nigga.
- 47:15Speaker 1: Because he happened to be where he was when y'all
- 47:18Speaker 1: stopped him.
- 47:19Speaker 3: Right, we found a random nigga and put everything on him.
- 47:23Speaker 3: And then but it's like, yo, y'all in y'all in
- 47:25Speaker 3: way too deep, y'all in so deep that you can't
- 47:30Speaker 3: you can't be like, my bad, you know what I'm saying, Like,
- 47:36Speaker 3: because we just seen, we seen what happened with diggsoner
- 47:38Speaker 3: Rady five Like yo, years at there, Yo, it took yo,
- 47:43Speaker 3: this man, Yo, Corey was in jail, Like Corey was
- 47:46Speaker 3: in jail for life until the motherfucker came in and
- 47:50Speaker 3: was like, Yo, I did it. I'm sorry, Like I'm
- 47:52Speaker 3: sorry that you had to pay, that you had to
- 47:54Speaker 3: pay for my that you had to pay for my sins,
- 47:56Speaker 3: you know what I mean? I like, and he confessed
- 47:58Speaker 3: and then it was like now the world, you know,
- 48:00Speaker 3: the world is looking like I got you know, they
- 48:02Speaker 3: admitted that they were wrong, and it's like, yo, this
- 48:05Speaker 3: motherfucking too deep like New York probably you know, state
- 48:08Speaker 3: state of New York admitting that they was wrong.
- 48:10Speaker 1: You know, all right, cool, my bad? You know, ship
- 48:12Speaker 1: like that happened every day.
- 48:13Speaker 3: But we in Georgia, and it's like, yeah, they they,
- 48:20Speaker 3: they they probably gonna that. Man if he's if Brandon,
- 48:23Speaker 3: I think he's looking them up right now to say,
- 48:24Speaker 3: if he's still in.
- 48:25Speaker 1: Jail, he's.
- 48:28Speaker 3: He got life sence that ain't gonna die in jail
- 48:31Speaker 3: because they're not, because they're not gonna stand on They're
- 48:33Speaker 3: not gonna stand on a we know we wrong fully
- 48:36Speaker 3: accused you how you know, we apologized and we were
- 48:39Speaker 3: sorry for that.
- 48:40Speaker 1: But like yo, but I mean, I ap preached as
- 48:43Speaker 1: recently as twenty ten. This is what I was able
- 48:46Speaker 1: to find out yesterday when I went to do some
- 48:48Speaker 1: more research there and to y'all just spoke about the
- 48:51Speaker 1: fibers that didn't there was inconclusive that happened in twenty ten.
- 48:54Speaker 1: There was a human head that was found on one
- 48:56Speaker 1: of the victims, eleven year old Patrick Ball Beltherzer. I
- 49:00Speaker 1: think I'm fatherser I think I'm saying his and and
- 49:07Speaker 1: it did not exclude him, but it did not say
- 49:10Speaker 1: that it wasn't could but they said it's hard trying
- 49:13Speaker 1: to link that kind of stuff when you don't have
- 49:15Speaker 1: anything to link it to William. Still, of course, as
- 49:20Speaker 1: of twenty ten, when this particular article came out. He
- 49:24Speaker 1: just stated that, you know, he's still maintained this innocence.
- 49:26Speaker 1: He said, nobody was able to testify that they saw
- 49:28Speaker 1: me hurt anybody, stab anybody, beat anybody, kill anybody, because
- 49:32Speaker 1: I didn't. He said he believes Atlanta was in a
- 49:34Speaker 1: panic over the killings, was bent on convicting the black
- 49:37Speaker 1: man because arresting a white man might have sparked the
- 49:39Speaker 1: race war and Atlanta would have gone up in flames. Yeah,
- 49:42Speaker 1: I believe it. He also said that the five evidence
- 49:46Speaker 1: was was manipulated in the case simply because they had
- 49:50Speaker 1: a suspect.
- 49:51Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, but that's what I'm saying. It
- 49:54Speaker 3: was like, I feel like you found a random nigger.
- 49:57Speaker 3: I was like, hey, come here, nigger, yep, hard come here,
- 50:02Speaker 3: we gonna you. We're gonna we're gonna take you here
- 50:04Speaker 3: and lock them up. And then it's like, you know,
- 50:07Speaker 3: like I said, I'm sorry for this for him to
- 50:09Speaker 3: still be like maintaining that evident not evident innocence, like
- 50:14Speaker 3: he like I didn't do it, bro Like, listen, I
- 50:16Speaker 3: just want all I'm asking for is just another trial.
- 50:19Speaker 3: And when I present the information to you, and you
- 50:22Speaker 3: you will understand I did not do this, And but
- 50:27Speaker 3: I hate how the documentaries always spin it like you
- 50:31Speaker 3: try to spend it, like you give us all this
- 50:33Speaker 3: information that points into the direction of it's not like, yo,
- 50:38Speaker 3: like this man innocent, But then you then you then
- 50:40Speaker 3: you say the ship.
- 50:41Speaker 1: Like oh, could he be a killer? Or is he
- 50:46Speaker 1: an innocent man? I personally don't think he did it.
- 50:49Speaker 3: I don't think he did it either, because I'm sorry,
- 50:51Speaker 3: like like I'm like I said, what I believe that
- 50:55Speaker 3: society does is give us, give us way too, way
- 50:57Speaker 3: too much information, and these TV shows and these crime shows,
- 51:01Speaker 3: and then it's like, yo, you showed like like like
- 51:03Speaker 3: criminal profiling, like if I killed twenty six kids or
- 51:08Speaker 3: twenty what it was it was it was twenty eight.
- 51:11Speaker 3: It was twenty eight all together, right, So if I
- 51:14Speaker 3: killed twenty six children, why did I kill these two adults?
- 51:23Speaker 2: It's not just that, but the question that that came
- 51:26Speaker 2: up by one of the people, the guy think the
- 51:28Speaker 2: guy who wrote the book the list. The question was Wayne,
- 51:31Speaker 2: what not only did his background not match? He was
- 51:34Speaker 2: not like a like a he didn't have a previous criminal.
- 51:37Speaker 1: Record, just make it even worse. In addition, to that.
- 51:41Speaker 2: The question was the question, I mean people, people can
- 51:44Speaker 2: be can have psychotic breaks, and yeah, yeah, that's what
- 51:47Speaker 2: I'm saying. But the question was if this man did
- 51:52Speaker 2: all of these things, how exactly did.
- 51:58Speaker 3: How?
- 51:59Speaker 2: How was he able to overpower twenty eight people without
- 52:04Speaker 2: a single scar, a single scratch, or a single anything. No,
- 52:09Speaker 2: you know, no, I guess I'm not sure what.
- 52:11Speaker 1: That what that mark like bite marks and scratch marks,
- 52:14Speaker 1: because I'm.
- 52:15Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm not sure if the men would have gave
- 52:17Speaker 2: you the men would men absolutely even the kids like that,
- 52:22Speaker 2: I'm sure, especially once the bodies were you know, I
- 52:25Speaker 2: want to say that the bodies that were dumped in
- 52:27Speaker 2: the river probably were so badly decomposed that nothing could
- 52:30Speaker 2: have been recovered. But the people who were found initially,
- 52:32Speaker 2: they didn't pull skin samples from under nails, did they
- 52:37Speaker 2: find fingerprints on bodies on clothes, and they just found fibers. Now,
- 52:41Speaker 2: I think a lot of the body, not just the
- 52:42Speaker 2: bodies in the river, but somebodies were so badly decomposed
- 52:45Speaker 2: they couldn't do anything with them. But if there is
- 52:49Speaker 2: no shadow of a doubt, and you're just linking this
- 52:52Speaker 2: case through circumstantial evidence, where we found this, and this
- 52:56Speaker 2: kind of matches, and well, I think I like this too,
- 52:59Speaker 2: so let's add it to it. There was nothing that
- 53:01Speaker 2: that tied that man beyond the shadow of a doubt
- 53:05Speaker 2: that said this. We have eye witnesses seeing him dragging
- 53:07Speaker 2: a little boy out of building five point fifteen to this,
- 53:11Speaker 2: uh this white station wagon and then hitting his head
- 53:14Speaker 2: on the side of a knock him a conscious, and
- 53:16Speaker 2: driving down the street.
- 53:16Speaker 1: Nobody saw him do this. I think it's ice cream truck.
- 53:21Speaker 1: So is it a MISSISSIPTI as soon as it get
- 53:23Speaker 1: warm enough.
- 53:24Speaker 2: To But my thought process was, what if it was
- 53:31Speaker 2: Jimmy Brooks and another guy who did all of this agree?
- 53:34Speaker 1: Or what if? What if?
- 53:36Speaker 2: What if some of these cases were connected? But what
- 53:38Speaker 2: if by and large they were just criminals. It was
- 53:40Speaker 2: a crime wave. People were killing kids.
- 53:43Speaker 3: If you just look and you're looking for answers and
- 53:45Speaker 3: you're looking for somebody that you're looking for somebody the
- 53:48Speaker 3: point too, all of them, right, But it's just I mean,
- 53:51Speaker 3: it's just something that's circumstantial that's happening around this time,
- 53:55Speaker 3: and it's unfortunately it's it's it's it's massive children depth,
- 54:01Speaker 3: like you know, like they used to scare us when
- 54:02Speaker 3: he was young about the bunny man, like, yo, you know.
- 54:04Speaker 1: You better stop playing the money man gonna get you.
- 54:07Speaker 3: But and it's like, you know, like you they disappear,
- 54:11Speaker 3: and you know, the kids disappeared. You never seen and
- 54:13Speaker 3: you never heard from him again. And I think it
- 54:16Speaker 3: was just the outcry, like it was an outcry in
- 54:18Speaker 3: the city, and they they just had the sort of
- 54:20Speaker 3: like and do the right thing with MOOKI through the
- 54:22Speaker 3: MOOKI through the trash can and trash can in the window,
- 54:25Speaker 3: like yo, they was spinning. They was pinna kill them,
- 54:27Speaker 3: but because you through the trash can in the window,
- 54:29Speaker 3: they decided to destroy the shop instead, and they destroyed
- 54:32Speaker 3: the shop instead. And I feel that's what happened. They
- 54:35Speaker 3: they put everything on on mister uh, mister Wood was
- 54:39Speaker 3: mister Williams. Yeah, they put it on mister Williams, like yo,
- 54:42Speaker 3: you like all right, shore listen, it's on you.
- 54:45Speaker 1: He did it like he he did, He did all
- 54:47Speaker 1: that shit.
- 54:47Speaker 3: And I was like, but us looking at it outside
- 54:51Speaker 3: looking in, it's like none of that shit makes sense,
- 54:53Speaker 3: but y'all don't. But y'all made it make y'all made
- 54:55Speaker 3: it make sense. Back then, and the parents of the
- 54:58Speaker 3: parents of these children are like, that don't make sense
- 55:01Speaker 3: that that that's that's not it.
- 55:02Speaker 2: And they even used the argument to say, like, oh well, well,
- 55:06Speaker 2: well the killings stopped after Wayne, after Wayne Williams went
- 55:10Speaker 2: to jail, but they also stopped after Jamie Brooks went
- 55:15Speaker 2: to jail, like and it.
- 55:17Speaker 1: Didn't really stop, like the guys had the profile just changed, right,
- 55:22Speaker 1: So but.
- 55:24Speaker 2: I feel like because who knows, Like and you remember
- 55:26Speaker 2: in the documentary Aaron, they were saying like, after a
- 55:30Speaker 2: certain number of kids had gone missing there or had
- 55:32Speaker 2: been discovered, there were community while walks of people going
- 55:35Speaker 2: through the woods basically looking for and that's how they
- 55:38Speaker 2: discovered a lot of bodies that were that were dumped. Like, so,
- 55:42Speaker 2: who's to say once that wrapped, right, that kid the
- 55:46Speaker 2: kids still weren't being maybe at least for a period
- 55:50Speaker 2: of time after Wayne Williams was convicted, who's to say
- 55:53Speaker 2: that they somebody wasn't still abducting kids or the person
- 55:56Speaker 2: got spooked and decided to leave Atlanta altogether and go
- 55:58Speaker 2: somewhere else, like yeah, I mean, or what if it
- 56:02Speaker 2: was Jamie Brooks and Jamie Brooks been apprehended for a rape,
- 56:05Speaker 2: kind of like what we talked about Seana with the
- 56:06Speaker 2: Central Park five case with Matthias Rays, who actually committed
- 56:10Speaker 2: that the grape of Tricia may Lee. He got popped
- 56:14Speaker 2: on a separate rate, and that's basically how it stopped
- 56:17Speaker 2: because he was in jail for an unrelated rape and
- 56:20Speaker 2: he met one of the people that was accused years later,
- 56:23Speaker 2: and that's how they got their names clear.
- 56:25Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. But that's what I was saying earlier,
- 56:28Speaker 3: because it's like, Yo, we y'all in. Y'all in way
- 56:31Speaker 3: too deep right now, and it's like, Yo, you're gonna
- 56:33Speaker 3: let that man die in jail because you realize that
- 56:36Speaker 3: if you come out, if you come out and say
- 56:40Speaker 3: that we made a mistake, it's.
- 56:43Speaker 1: Gonna throw everything.
- 56:44Speaker 3: It's gonna throw everything, and it's gonna throw everything that
- 56:48Speaker 3: childen did beforehand. And the question and that they're gonna
- 56:51Speaker 3: start in the question everybody else. They're gonna start a
- 56:53Speaker 3: question everything else, and motherfuckers ain't gonna respect the dosal.
- 56:58Speaker 3: I mean, we already don't expect the judicial system anyway
- 57:01Speaker 3: because we think that we feel as though that everything
- 57:03Speaker 3: is already put put stacked like ours are always stacked
- 57:06Speaker 3: high against us anyway, just because we're black.
- 57:10Speaker 1: Yeah, so anybody, anybody to go to court.
- 57:13Speaker 2: Race also had a huge part to do with I
- 57:15Speaker 2: think I mentioned that, Like you said, it could have
- 57:17Speaker 2: been a clan thing where they were abducting black kids
- 57:21Speaker 2: and then killing them, but race had a huge part
- 57:24Speaker 2: to do with it.
- 57:24Speaker 1: And I think that's like as we was said, he didn't
- 57:27Speaker 1: they didn't want to convictim a white man because it
- 57:29Speaker 1: would they feel like it would have started a race war.
- 57:31Speaker 1: But right is right and wrong is wrong.
- 57:33Speaker 3: I mean, tell me we already had a race war.
- 57:35Speaker 3: We are we you know we we the US is
- 57:37Speaker 3: privy to that.
- 57:38Speaker 2: But that's that's that, that's we also have to remember
- 57:43Speaker 2: the fact that this happened in the late seventies and
- 57:45Speaker 2: early eighties before we were born. We're also not from
- 57:48Speaker 2: Atlanta or the Atlanta area. Atlanta you lived in the area,
- 57:51Speaker 2: in the Atlanta I lived in twenty plus years later,
- 57:55Speaker 2: it was a totally different place from the Atlanta. That
- 57:57Speaker 2: was true, that was existing back then.
- 58:00Speaker 3: But that's why I said what I said, Like New
- 58:02Speaker 3: York can probably be like my bad, I'm sorry. His
- 58:05Speaker 3: on his fifty his fifty million dollars. But Atlanta, it's
- 58:13Speaker 3: a different to understand.
- 58:15Speaker 1: I understand.
- 58:15Speaker 3: So we yeah, you gotta understand, you know, Yeah, they're
- 58:21Speaker 3: gonna let that man die there because they I'd.
- 58:24Speaker 1: Be damned, rather than admit that maybe, yeah, they be damned.
- 58:29Speaker 2: I left, to be honest, after watching this, and I
- 58:31Speaker 2: watched this this morning before I came to show on
- 58:33Speaker 2: this place, before we recorded today. I have more questions
- 58:36Speaker 2: than I feel like right that that I feel like
- 58:38Speaker 2: weren't really answered.
- 58:39Speaker 1: Yeah, it left me like, it left me like, Yo,
- 58:41Speaker 1: what the fuck? Like? What the fuck like? What made
- 58:45Speaker 1: you like? What really made you like pull him?
- 58:48Speaker 2: Because he was at if it was if he did
- 58:50Speaker 2: not commit to commit the murders, it was literally.
- 58:54Speaker 1: Being at the wrong place at the wrong time. That's
- 58:56Speaker 1: that's really all it was.
- 58:57Speaker 3: And then it's like and if it wasn't him, you'd
- 58:59Speaker 3: probably you probably you probably called somebody.
- 59:01Speaker 1: You probably called another.
- 59:02Speaker 3: Person, probably younger, because he was what twenty three at
- 59:05Speaker 3: the time, Yo, you'd probably found another You probably found
- 59:08Speaker 3: another one young gert in that young younger than that,
- 59:10Speaker 3: and then the younger they y'all the dumbed they and
- 59:13Speaker 3: they're like, yeah, I get it.
- 59:18Speaker 2: It's not to say that he couldn't have did it,
- 59:20Speaker 2: because we know he could have been involved with a
- 59:22Speaker 2: couple of emergency right, right, he could have been involved
- 59:25Speaker 2: in all of them. But if you have to, you
- 59:28Speaker 2: have to explain your case and part of the jury.
- 59:32Speaker 2: The way the jury was, they were they they heard
- 59:37Speaker 2: enough evidence. But to a lot of people, the parents,
- 59:40Speaker 2: it did not make sense. It was not it did
- 59:42Speaker 2: not make logical sense.
- 59:43Speaker 3: We've seen you know, we've seen you know, we've seen
- 59:46Speaker 3: Jurney's deliberate for longer than.
- 59:47Speaker 1: That for the little ship.
- 59:49Speaker 3: Yeah, like little ship like like like like the motherfucker
- 59:53Speaker 3: had on they said they said he had on the
- 59:54Speaker 3: red shirt but he was but he wore a green shirt,
- 59:56Speaker 3: but he got arrested.
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: Like yo, it's at the one day, too many holes
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: in this case for me, all of this ship.
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: Like all of the ship that happened, all the information
- 1:00:07Speaker 3: that was given to you, one day of deliberations like
- 1:00:10Speaker 3: that nigga did it. That's crazy at that's crazy as
- 1:00:14Speaker 3: fucking me.
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: It is anything else show I'm cool, pissed me off.
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: I don't know how to feel about this because there's
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: so many unanswered questions in the way.
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: As my nephew say, I'm be mom, mm hmm, like
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: can I say it? Can I say it? Yeah? Mother
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: fucking got because what what then? The actual fuck mom?
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: He said, like nineteen customers, I say one word is
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: just said about six of them.
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: Be put you back on customer restriction because you just
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: take ship too far? But show it's like what the fuck?
- 1:01:00Speaker 3: But like real ship, I was like that should that
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: should be sucked up because it's.
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: Like I get it.
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: He could he could, he could have done it, could
- 1:01:08Speaker 3: have could have done he could have done it. But
- 1:01:11Speaker 3: the way that it's presented right now is that show.
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: And he's still making too much reasonable doubt.
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: He's still much and he's still maintaining innocence, his innocence now,
- 1:01:20Speaker 3: like ain't no fucking way, Like.
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: There was no pattern.
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: People were killed in different ways, bodies were disposed of
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: in different ways. Usually with serial killers, they it's the same,
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: there's a pattern, it's.
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: The calling card. It's something people are killed the same
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: linked like they they took a lock of hair, they
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: cut a nipple off, something cut cut out a puzzle piece,
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: and some ship they take a tricky with some I'm
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: just saying. I will say that would be the episode title,
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: but nothing so I mean, I mean, if he did it,
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: then he should be punished to the Phill Center the
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: law which he got like sentence, even jail since before
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: we were born.
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: The justice what I'm saying, if not the Injustice League,
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: that's the episode.
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: That's it, just the one justice, that's the one. But yeah,
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: if he really did it. But if he didn't, and
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: you know, the people who are still walking its earth
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: for I mean, they may very well be dead, they
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: may very well be eighty years old still walking around.
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: We don't know, but you'll never know. The people who
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: know the truth is people who did it.
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: I'm with old boy that said it like yo, that
- 1:02:30Speaker 3: Nigga had died, though like Yo, he died like he
- 1:02:32Speaker 3: died in jail. He ain't like I ain't getting in
- 1:02:35Speaker 3: justice with my brother because he died like he's not
- 1:02:37Speaker 3: certain he's not serving no time for my mans because
- 1:02:40Speaker 3: he died like YO, the funk out of here. And
- 1:02:43Speaker 3: then now like you got that, like I said you,
- 1:02:45Speaker 3: potentially it wouldn't be the.
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: First time that an innocent person that's been convicted and
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: served life and it's the people who have been.
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: Executed, especially when they were able to tie the deaths
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: of any of those children to.
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: That man, which were the original victims, the children for.
- 1:03:03Speaker 3: The adults, twenty six kids and just these two adults
- 1:03:06Speaker 3: like out of no where.
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: And it's like that Nigga did that ship. I mean,
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: I'm sorry they said he did. He did it, right
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: about that? Right?
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: Like rest in peace? Well, I just want to say, like,
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: cut you off. Rest in peace to all of those victims, man. Like,
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: granted a lot they've all passed long before we were
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: before we were born. But to lose your life like
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: that and to not really have like or fine resolution
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: for your families, to find resolution for your losses is something.
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: Just rest in peace to them and in love and
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: condolences and prayers to their family.
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: It's a healing in peace they never get. And I
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: hate that for y'all, But I appreciate that y'all.
- 1:03:48Speaker 3: I appreciate that y'all still fighting, that y'all still fighting
- 1:03:51Speaker 3: for justice. And if y'all believe and that y'all believed
- 1:03:53Speaker 3: that that man is andocent, y'all still fighting for his like,
- 1:03:57Speaker 3: I like, that's admirable.
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: That's admirable. I I just realized I left something out. Uh,
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: the one who ended up the Jamie guy. One of
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: the mothers said that they did a lot of tech
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: to tests on him and the other guy that you said,
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: and they failed. They fail everything, and they just they
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: kept failing. Still let him go until he ended up
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: getting convicted of another great and uneliving. So that's crazy.
- 1:04:22Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but like I said, I appreciate that
- 1:04:24Speaker 3: y'all still out here trying to I'm trying to help
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: this man and fight for this man, and fight for
- 1:04:28Speaker 3: this man because y'all believe that he's Inderson.
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: But fight for the justice for yall, for your family
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: members who y'all lost.
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: All his children agreed, two grown men agree.
- 1:04:36Speaker 3: And it's like y'all and y'all believed that that man
- 1:04:38Speaker 3: is wrong for your cues 'all don't believe that he
- 1:04:40Speaker 3: did it. And you know, y'all still trying to find
- 1:04:42Speaker 3: y'all killers, because like Brandon said, Seanna said that motherfuckers
- 1:04:46Speaker 3: could be still out here to this day, could have.
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: Taken out others and lived their lives and got married
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: and had cheering and grand churn and some more stuff.
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: And you left to grieve your family, and it's not right.
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: So I prayed the if the genuinely not the person
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: who did it, maybe one day y'all still will get justice.
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: It's never too late, it's over. I hope you get.
- 1:05:09Speaker 3: I hope you do, actually get somebody, you find, you
- 1:05:11Speaker 3: find the right person.
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: Look at your case to look to go over your case.
- 1:05:15Speaker 3: And look at it and actually want to the actually
- 1:05:17Speaker 3: believe that you have a fighting chance of wrongful wrongful
- 1:05:22Speaker 3: uha wrestling, what's the what's the wrongful accusations? And yeah,
- 1:05:29Speaker 3: unlawful arresting, you know all that good stuff.
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's all I got.
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna wrap up this week's episode here, so
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: if you have any questions for us, feel free to
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- 1:06:20Speaker 1: I don't know. But what if we do? Yeah? Because
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: I know this.
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: Our name is trademark. Goddamn, we own that all day.
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: We own that ship by ourself.
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: How you like? Now you want to go like.
- 1:06:34Speaker 3: Nia oh oh, because I ain't said because I ain't
- 1:06:38Speaker 3: said it in some weeks, share this ship?
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: What are he's saying? What an except all day clips
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: TikTok's YouTube clips while we still got TikTok because.
- 1:06:50Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard I heard about so I heard about it.
- 1:06:52Speaker 3: I heard about the band and some ship. But again,
- 1:06:55Speaker 3: ship is ship. Please do you know we we do it.
- 1:06:58Speaker 3: We do it because we love it.
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: But you know it's fine. We also need we also
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- 1:07:20Speaker 1: I love you, but they don't let it.
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: They don't sell alcohol and targets here in Maryland, so
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: don't we got to cross state lines to buy your stuff.
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: But I did that and it was good. It was.
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: It was good, very good, nice little beacon buzz going on.
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: It was bust bus you know, wine, drunk hit different
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- 1:07:43Speaker 2: Yeah, we thank y'all for listening. We love y'all, and
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: we will back next week with an all new episode,
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