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NFL Offseason Mailbag: State of the Denver Broncos, Justin Herbert’s Offseason, Eagles won A.J. Brown trade? · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: can go check that out. And yeah, before I answer
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Speaker 1: any questions, I mean, watch the World Cup. The World
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Speaker 1: Cup is awesome. I'm not a soccer guy. I couldn't
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Speaker 1: tell you were any of the best players, what teams
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Speaker 1: they're on, internationally, messy playing in Miami. I know nothing besides, listen,
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Speaker 1: I'm a sports guy. I understand the gravity of this tournament,
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Speaker 1: the importance of this sport worldwide. I went to Spain
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Speaker 1: and college and it was when Ronald Dino was kind
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Speaker 1: of in his heyday, and I just I remember the
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Speaker 1: World Cup there and how much they talked about soccer
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Speaker 1: and the rivalries and you know, Spain, France, Portugal, everything
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Speaker 1: going on over there. And I think this tournament is
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Speaker 1: is just awesome. You know when it just comes up
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Speaker 1: there at Gillette, they're at Arrowhead right there, They're playing
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Speaker 1: in Seattle, they're in La I'm like, this is this
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Speaker 1: is sweet? Like what a mistake by Chicago's mayor denying it.
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Speaker 1: You're you're an idiot. You're fucking hundreds of millions of
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Speaker 1: billions of dollars in dead anyway to not all the
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Speaker 1: cities that got the World Cup to come, they're the winners.
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Speaker 1: Promise you that in Fox because there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: people watching this thing. Mambape Jesus, that guy's that guy's
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Speaker 1: pretty good. How about the George Kittle looking dude on Norway,
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Speaker 1: he's a problem. I came, I came down to earth
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Speaker 1: a little bit on Uh yeah, you know it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be a little harder. I thought, once we start playing
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Speaker 1: these other teams, I think we got a little ahead
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Speaker 1: of ourselves. We played like the best game of in
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Speaker 1: the history of America. We've been around for two hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty years, our soccer teams have blown Basically every
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Speaker 1: four years, we finally look credible and we're like we're
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Speaker 1: making a run. Then all the good teams start playing.
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Speaker 1: You're like, oh, yeah, it's like we gotta We'll see.
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Speaker 1: Let's just take it one game at a time. Okay,
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Speaker 1: let's answer some questions start with Kade, do you think
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Speaker 1: the NFL will expand the playoffs again anytime soon? There's
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Speaker 1: so much talk about adding more games the regular season
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Speaker 1: that it makes me think the playoff format will be reevaluated.
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Speaker 1: I mean, fourteen of the thirty two teams make the playoffs,
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Speaker 1: So I'm no math major, but you're talking over forty percent, right,
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Speaker 1: fourteens twenty eight would be fifty. So what's what's fourteen?
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Speaker 1: I mean, when are we talking forty five percent of
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Speaker 1: league makes the playoffs? Fourteen fourteen divide by thirty two. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we're talking forty four percent half the league's gonna make
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Isn't that the NBA? What eight teams technically
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Speaker 1: make it? Now? With the plan, I mean, you have
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Speaker 1: twenty teams vying for the playoffs. There's three teams in
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Speaker 1: the league. You know the regular season has to matter,
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Speaker 1: it just does. And you know college football is going
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Speaker 1: back and forth on this. Obviously. The NBA has battled
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Speaker 1: this big time, you know, baseball, up until they expanded
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Speaker 1: the wild card. I remember one year the San Franco Giants.
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Speaker 1: They think it won like one hundred and three games
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Speaker 1: and missed the playoffs. This is back when they had
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Speaker 1: weird divisions when I was a kid in like the
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Speaker 1: early nineties. But I would not Seven is more than enough.
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Speaker 1: Seven is more than enough. But you just you can
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Speaker 1: never discount them. Love the pod mail bag question for you.
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Speaker 1: I'm an Iowaha gye. We take pride in our tight ends.
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Speaker 1: We call ourselves tight end. You if you go position
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Speaker 1: by position, what would be the college that comes to
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Speaker 1: mind for each one? I actually was thinking about this
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Speaker 1: today because I saw you question earlier. I think it
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Speaker 1: used to matter, right when you think Penn State linebacker,
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Speaker 1: you right, lsu DBU Iowa tied En you Pete Carroll's
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Speaker 1: USC teams. I will just buy the best players. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: certain teams stood for certain things. I think in the
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Speaker 1: NIL transfer portal era that might die a little bit.
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Speaker 1: Like that was definitely true. But in this day and age,
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Speaker 1: when guys are moving teams like, I don't know if
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Speaker 1: that's gonna resonate and hit quite as hard as it
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Speaker 1: did pre NIL. I was getting people were tweeting at me,
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Speaker 1: like because I said, I think that this guy is
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Speaker 1: for not only getting drafted, He's going to be on
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Speaker 1: every team's draft board. The only way Soresby is not
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Speaker 1: going to be in the mix is if like your
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Speaker 1: owner says we're not messing with him, or Goodell doesn't
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Speaker 1: let him in the supplemental draft, which I doubt he will.
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Speaker 1: But like someone's like, well, why didn't he just come
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Speaker 1: out last year? Because Texas Tech just paid him like
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Speaker 1: five six million dollars, he would have been, you know,
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Speaker 1: got drafted somewhere in the top fifty. He goes to
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Speaker 1: Texas Tech, who was just in the playoffs, and is
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Speaker 1: literally buying players at every other at every other position.
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Speaker 1: He's thinking, I'm gonna win like twelve thirteen games, I'll
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Speaker 1: be a top ten pick. I'll be like the sixth pick,
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Speaker 1: the fifth pick. That's why he didn't come out last year,
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Speaker 1: because if he came out last year, it's not like
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Speaker 1: he would have fallen to the fourth round. Uh well, well,
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Speaker 1: the gambling thing, I guess probably would have come out.
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Speaker 1: I guess it would have come out after But so
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Speaker 1: the nil transfer portal has completely changed the game. Born
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Speaker 1: and Raised in the Bay discovered the show and uh
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. As a dad of two toddlers, the
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Speaker 1: dad diaries are top notch. Sleep gets infinitely better soon,
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Speaker 1: I keep Maria went to lunch recently with a friend
7:04
Speaker 1: or no, maybe she was getting her haircut and like
7:08
Speaker 1: the hairdressers was telling a story about her husband. Just said, like,
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Speaker 1: if you could just fast forward to eight months, it'd
7:18
Speaker 1: be good. I mean the first those were five six months. Man,
7:22
Speaker 1: woo woo, never again. Not that I'm never having kids again,
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Speaker 1: but I'm more there can be some changes next time around,
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Speaker 1: or just move her mom here. Do you see any
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Speaker 1: scenario in which the NHL gains more eyeballs than the
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Speaker 1: NBA in the foreseeable future. Feels like Celabrini just brought
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Speaker 1: more juice to the Bay than Jumbo Joe and the Warriors.
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Speaker 1: On the decline, NBA riddle with tanking problems, and honestly,
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Speaker 1: the product isn't as good as the NHL, which has
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Speaker 1: more parody, less flopping, and more action. Problem is it's
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Speaker 1: about the culture of society, right. Why historically have baseball, basketball,
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Speaker 1: and football been way bigger than hockey because way more
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Speaker 1: people play those sports in America than hockey. And I
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Speaker 1: think hockey in certain regions is really really big. But
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Speaker 1: I don't think hockey can in the I mean I
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Speaker 1: was gonna say my lifetime, I just I struggle to
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Speaker 1: say that, because who knows we're living longer. If I'm
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Speaker 1: I got sixty more years and me, things can change.
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Speaker 1: But I don't think so. Now. The NHL as a product,
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Speaker 1: their playoffs is elite. That their playoffs is elite. And
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Speaker 1: you know the ratings were coming out on the Knicks
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Speaker 1: this series. I mean, last year, we'll go down as
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Speaker 1: one of the least. Last year was like a low
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Speaker 1: point for the NBA. Okay, see Indiana, and this is
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Speaker 1: no shot at Indiana. Like I have a lot of
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Speaker 1: respect for the Patriots brand, the organization in which they've
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Speaker 1: run over the years. Okay, see, I mean Sam Presty's
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Speaker 1: obviously really good. Their team does nothing for me as
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Speaker 1: a consumer, you know, And I used to bet a
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Speaker 1: lot on the KD Russ Harden. What I really got
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Speaker 1: into the NBA overs because they used to score a
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Speaker 1: shitload of points and that team resonated with me. This team,
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Speaker 1: their team does not. I mean, it just doesn't. But
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Speaker 1: the Knicks are just a cultural force, and the Dodgers
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Speaker 1: are like that, The Yankees are like that, the Cubs
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Speaker 1: are like that, the Lakers would be like that. You know,
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Speaker 1: there are certain teams that just there's not really that
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Speaker 1: in hockey. So I and that's that's beside the point.
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Speaker 1: Like the NBA is just bigger, like the shitty OKAC
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Speaker 1: Indiana ratings, Like they averaged like nine million people last
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Speaker 1: year watching games. The NHL would die for that. My
10:00
Speaker 1: name is is Asher. I'm at Saint Bonnie's Sports j
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Speaker 1: Master's program. My current class is a final project feature
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Speaker 1: story requiring multiple interviews on the topic of your choosing.
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Speaker 1: I had the idea of doing a story about how
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Speaker 1: NIL is affecting NFL scouting. This is the year. This
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Speaker 1: year was the first time there was no one from
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Speaker 1: the FCS in the first three rounds, which is pretty crazy.
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Speaker 1: When I was at school at cal Pauly, we had
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Speaker 1: back to back years with guy going in the third
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Speaker 1: round and cal Pauly was not some at the time,
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Speaker 1: you know, twelve win team. It's not like they were
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Speaker 1: dominating FCS. They just you could just get talent. Nowadays,
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Speaker 1: it was Chris Gokong and Jordan Beck the equivalent of
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Speaker 1: those two guys now and they neither of them had
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Speaker 1: great NFL careers, but they would have been poached. So
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Speaker 1: it's yeah, I mean it's a big deal. That was
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Speaker 1: That was one of the best stats of the draft,
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Speaker 1: and that to me sums up the nil era. I
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Speaker 1: know this may be a long shot reaching out to
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Speaker 1: you a potential interview, asher hit me back up and
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Speaker 1: I will give you my email address if it's not
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Speaker 1: too late. Hey, John lo thepod. This is about the
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Speaker 1: NBA lottery and how Adam Silver is running the league
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Speaker 1: into the ground. Imagine the Cowboys jumping from twelfth to first,
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Speaker 1: which is what happened to the Mavericks last year. And
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Speaker 1: yet the new NBA lottery rules are making this even
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Speaker 1: more of a possibility. If they make a great trade
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Speaker 1: to get a top pick, that's different. But if they
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Speaker 1: have an okay season and get the first overall pick
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Speaker 1: from a random lottery draw, that is crazy. As a fan,
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Speaker 1: it would be much easier to stick around and keep
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Speaker 1: watching after a terrible season if they have a great
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Speaker 1: rookie coming in, rather than missing out on a solid
12:02
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year candidate because we suck. Why can't
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Speaker 1: the league fallow the NHL's model, which has a lottery
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Speaker 1: system but has a limit on how high a team
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Speaker 1: can get jumps can jump spots, and guarantees the worst
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Speaker 1: team has a top three pick. Any thoughts on the
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Speaker 1: NBA's lottery proposal. It's definitely kind of confusing. I mean
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Speaker 1: I listened to podcasts talking about it. I think one
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Speaker 1: problem that they had to address that there's no easy solution,
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Speaker 1: and this is not a solution that's set in perpetuity
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Speaker 1: like that they can adjust. You couldn't have teams try
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Speaker 1: to suck over and over and keep getting top picks right,
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Speaker 1: and that's separate what the MAVs what how lucky they
12:46
Speaker 1: got with Cooper flag, which they kind of deserve because
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Speaker 1: the Luca thing. But regardless, you can't have just a
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Speaker 1: team every single year getting the first or second pick.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's how San Antonio got good Cleveland before
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Speaker 1: came back, didn't they win the lottery three of his
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Speaker 1: four years he was gone? So like, you just can't
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Speaker 1: have that, especially when teams are actively trying to do that.
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Speaker 1: Now I also semi agree, but like if you were
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Speaker 1: trying to win and you get bailed out, I mean
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Speaker 1: it's happened countless times, and then be a history where
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Speaker 1: the team has been somewhere like ten to eleven, twelve
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Speaker 1: and got lucky. I don't know, I don't have a
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Speaker 1: great example. You know what. My take on the whole
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Speaker 1: situation is, can team just fucking try? Can you just
13:35
Speaker 1: try to put together a good basketball team? So we
13:39
Speaker 1: talked about the NFL. The Jets tried to win all
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Speaker 1: their games last year. Think about that, no interceptions, they
13:46
Speaker 1: drafted second overall, they actively tried to win every game
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Speaker 1: they played. There was not one game they played where
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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn, the coaching staff and the players were like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we're not trying to win. Think about the Wizards, the Jazz,
14:02
Speaker 1: I mean, the Grizzlies, they actively all try to lose.
14:08
Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy. I mean the Pacers got royally
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Speaker 1: you know what, because they made that trade and now
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Speaker 1: the Clippers had the fifth pick. But all these teams
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Speaker 1: tried to lose. So I that's what you gotta fix.
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Speaker 1: And then if it turns out you suck. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: got no issue with a couple months to go kind
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Speaker 1: of leaning into it. But when you just go right now,
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Speaker 1: like in the middle of June, let's try to put
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Speaker 1: together the worst team possible to suck for six months.
14:38
Speaker 1: Like you guys are in the business like of I
14:41
Speaker 1: don't know, playing basketball is an entertainment product to make money.
14:46
Speaker 1: This is where David Stern. None of the he would
14:48
Speaker 1: have fucking had heads would have been rolling. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it would not have been tolerated. You know, Goodell gets
14:55
Speaker 1: kind of like pigeonholed. Is this I don't know, dictator
15:02
Speaker 1: like Goodell the honors, dictate the terms. You know, I'll
15:06
Speaker 1: promise you that David Stern gota dictator the terms. Now,
15:09
Speaker 1: it would be more difficult for David Stern in twenty
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Speaker 1: six with some of these guys were billions upon billions
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Speaker 1: of dollars. It would have been difficult but I grew
15:19
Speaker 1: up on that era and shit just happened in their
15:22
Speaker 1: league in the nineties was every bit as popular as
15:25
Speaker 1: the NFL, and I would say in the Shaq and
15:28
Speaker 1: Kobe were every bit as big as any NFL team
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Speaker 1: in my life. So like the drop off Adam, he's like, oh,
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Speaker 1: just do whatever you guys want, I'll drop the hammer.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even think Adam Silver likes basketball,
15:45
Speaker 1: and listen, you don't need to love basketball or love
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Speaker 1: the sport to be a good commissioner. But I did
15:52
Speaker 1: feel like David Stern liked basketball like I feel like
15:55
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell likes football. Now do I feel like Roger
15:59
Speaker 1: Goodell's Andy or David Stern was you know, Jerry Colangelo. No,
16:04
Speaker 1: but when I wake to Adam Silver, to me, he
16:06
Speaker 1: feels like you could just replace him and put him
16:08
Speaker 1: at like some fortune five hundred company. He'd just be
16:12
Speaker 1: standing their skinny bald, you know, just not wanting to
16:15
Speaker 1: ruffle any feathers, just try to keep that stock price
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Speaker 1: moving forward. That there has to be like this is sports.
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Speaker 1: I just I texted a buddy the other day. I
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Speaker 1: was watching the NBA Finals. No, maybe it was a
16:29
Speaker 1: playoff game.
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Speaker 2: One thing Goodell does to light himself up a little
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Speaker 2: bit is when you would ten games like bro, you
16:37
Speaker 2: can wear a pullover, you don't need to be in.
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Speaker 1: A suit everywhere you go, and you just see Adam
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Speaker 1: Silver in the suit in the stands, like God, this
16:46
Speaker 1: guy looks like a stiff. I mean, he does not
16:50
Speaker 1: look like someone I would want to be friends with.
16:54
Speaker 1: You Like, well, you wouldn't want to be friends with
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Speaker 1: David Stern either. I kind of what I kind of
16:57
Speaker 1: like some fucking wild cards in my life. You can
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Speaker 1: sum up Adam Silver in one paragraph. Again, I don't
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Speaker 1: blame him for all the tanking, like he didn't create that,
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Speaker 1: couple decades, obviously, the Pats have been under hot water
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Speaker 1: for alleged cheating scandals. From what I gathered from your podcast,
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Speaker 1: I recall hearing you being a member of the Eagles
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Speaker 1: and the first couple of years of Chip Kelly, so
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Speaker 1: right between Spygate in the Flakegate. In short, did people
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Speaker 1: around the NFL really resent the Pats in the time
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Speaker 1: of those allegations not a part of the question, But
19:01
Speaker 1: as a Pats fan, obviously I don't consider those scandals
19:03
Speaker 1: a big deal. Considering the winning percentages, and we're the
19:09
Speaker 1: same exact throughout the entire run. I think internally in football,
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Speaker 1: a lot of scandals deflate Gate, Spygate, what was the
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Speaker 1: other gate, bounty Gate. I the media a lot of
19:31
Speaker 1: times I think can be uh somewhat out of touch
19:37
Speaker 1: with the way the sausage is made. And then you
19:40
Speaker 1: factor in when you win a lot get on social media,
19:45
Speaker 1: everyone calls Elon Musk an idiot. I mean there's dudes
19:49
Speaker 1: you know that fucking are living in their mom's basement
19:51
Speaker 1: calling Elon Musse'm an idiot. So when you dominate and
19:55
Speaker 1: have a lot of success and listen, you don't have
19:57
Speaker 1: to agree with everything the guy says. But if you're
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Speaker 1: called that, like you and I are not gonna be
20:02
Speaker 1: on the same wavelength, you know, like just keep it moving,
20:05
Speaker 1: like we're probably not gonna you think that guy's an idiot?
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Speaker 1: Like who do you think is fucking smart? Can you
20:12
Speaker 1: direct me that way? But I wouldn't even ask that
20:14
Speaker 1: question because I would already have moved the other direction.
20:17
Speaker 1: Just no different than being like last year with Bill Belichick.
20:21
Speaker 1: But you don't think Bill Belichick's a Hall of Famer,
20:24
Speaker 1: like we can't have a conversation. It's a waste. I
20:27
Speaker 1: don't have the time. Time's my greatest asset. Who knows
20:30
Speaker 1: how many years you know, get up there in age.
20:33
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to waste a breath having an argument
20:37
Speaker 1: with that. So as they take off and start dominating
20:40
Speaker 1: a league that's not supposed to be dominated, people resented them.
20:45
Speaker 1: Then they got caught doing things. The deflate gate thing.
20:48
Speaker 1: I still don't even comprehend the deflate gate thing. Who
20:51
Speaker 1: fucking cares? I honestly, who cares. Tom Brady's kicking the
20:55
Speaker 1: shit out of you with deflated balls, filled up balls
20:59
Speaker 1: base You're getting your ass kicked. The spygate thing. He's
21:04
Speaker 1: clearly stealing signs. Everyone was stealing signs. Now they took
21:08
Speaker 1: it to a different level. Right, There are a lot
21:12
Speaker 1: of people in business doing shady shit. Welcome to the
21:15
Speaker 1: private sector. There's a line you cross, you go to jail.
21:19
Speaker 1: There's a line you cross you can get in big trouble.
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Speaker 1: And that's what we're all doing. Many people listening you
21:26
Speaker 1: kind of get close to the line. Are you willing
21:28
Speaker 1: to cross it? Because if you cross it, maybe you
21:31
Speaker 1: get caught. Maybe you won't. But if you do get caught,
21:34
Speaker 1: there are gonna be repercussions. And the pats got caught
21:37
Speaker 1: and they were told like, don't do that anymore. Happens
21:41
Speaker 1: a lot in all sorts of industries. But like, do
21:44
Speaker 1: I think they won all these years because they were
21:47
Speaker 1: stealing signs? No, everyone was stealing signs. Do I think
21:51
Speaker 1: most teams had someone on the field filming the signs?
21:54
Speaker 1: Probably not. Do I think they had people in the
21:57
Speaker 1: press boxes or the stands? Yes? Do I think they
22:00
Speaker 1: had them on the field and fake gear? Probably not right,
22:05
Speaker 1: but it's it was. I would say it was a
22:11
Speaker 1: universal act used in college in the NFL. So I
22:19
Speaker 1: I one piece of advice I would give young people,
22:22
Speaker 1: and this is where you got to be careful with
22:23
Speaker 1: social media, is don't resent successful people because I think
22:29
Speaker 1: that'll make you angry and bitter as you get older,
22:33
Speaker 1: and it will limit your future. And you see a
22:36
Speaker 1: lot of it in this modern day time. Because of
22:39
Speaker 1: the Internet, it's really easy to get on there and
22:42
Speaker 1: just resent everybody. People are doing better than you. Guess what,
22:46
Speaker 1: in the history of time, there's always been people doing
22:48
Speaker 1: better in other people, especially in this country. We got
22:50
Speaker 1: winners and losers. But there's no place where you can
22:53
Speaker 1: be a loser and turn yourself into a winner, you know.
22:56
Speaker 1: And I think the you know, the NFL is very
22:59
Speaker 1: gems naturally football the nature of the business. But I
23:05
Speaker 1: always admired him. I mean I worked for a guy
23:08
Speaker 1: that you know at Pat Hill at Frisne State, that
23:10
Speaker 1: worked for Bill in Cleveland, so he revered Bill and
23:15
Speaker 1: they didn't even win there, and he just kept saying,
23:17
Speaker 1: this guy's a fucking genius. And we had a bunch
23:20
Speaker 1: of guys drafted there that were always coming back, and
23:23
Speaker 1: I just I have nothing but admiration for the operation.
23:27
Speaker 1: You know. It's like Steve's jobs gets caught doing some
23:33
Speaker 1: shady accounting, does that make him not good at his job?
23:36
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just welcome to life, you know. I
23:40
Speaker 1: just think most people want everyone else to be losers,
23:47
Speaker 1: so then if they become a winner, they're the only
23:49
Speaker 1: guy standing there, or if they stay not doing well,
23:52
Speaker 1: they can be like you're just like me. And I
23:54
Speaker 1: think the Patriots started lapping people and kicking everybody's ass.
24:00
Speaker 1: I still can't believe. Sometimes it crossed my mind, actually
24:02
Speaker 1: somehow the other day, like Bill Belichick didn't get into
24:06
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. That might be one of the
24:12
Speaker 1: craziest NFL stories of my life. If I hear anyone go, well,
24:17
Speaker 1: get in next year. I don't give a fuck what
24:19
Speaker 1: the rules are. I don't give a shit about next year.
24:22
Speaker 1: You're telling me his name comes to the ballot and
24:27
Speaker 1: when it ends, you don't open the doors and be
24:29
Speaker 1: like Bill Belichick's now in the Hall of Fame, like
24:34
Speaker 1: the resentment and anger toward him. Listen, he's not exactly
24:39
Speaker 1: you know, smiles, cuddles and mister welcoming. I get it,
24:45
Speaker 1: but we gotta you walk up and down those halls
24:48
Speaker 1: and can you know there's a lot of red flags.
24:51
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of red flags. This is a business.
24:54
Speaker 1: Did you win or you lose, Did you make plays
24:56
Speaker 1: or you didn't. I mean, it's pretty black and white business.
24:59
Speaker 1: And I a part of it. I now talk about
25:01
Speaker 1: it for a long time, so I I the Patriots,
25:05
Speaker 1: what they did is it's incredible. I mean, it truly is.
25:10
Speaker 1: Think about this the year the Chiefs have Let's say
25:12
Speaker 1: the Chiefs bounce back and they win eleven games, they're
25:15
Speaker 1: back in the they win a playoff game, they're back
25:16
Speaker 1: in the playoff mix the Patriots once Brady got there
25:21
Speaker 1: after their first Super Bowl. So they win a super Bowl,
25:24
Speaker 1: then they missed the playoffs, and then they win the two.
25:27
Speaker 1: They never had a season like that from like three
25:31
Speaker 1: or four all the way through when Brady left in
25:36
Speaker 1: free agency, and you name it, all the different variable
25:41
Speaker 1: never not all the coaches that left, not once. Now
25:44
Speaker 1: they didn't make the super Bowl every year, but and
25:47
Speaker 1: they got bounced a couple times in the playoffs. And
25:50
Speaker 1: even the one year they missed the playoffs, they they
25:52
Speaker 1: won eleven games with Castle. Justin Herbert was recently in
25:57
Speaker 1: a music video with his girlfriend. Would Chargers fans be
26:01
Speaker 1: concerned that he is playing patty cake with his pop
26:04
Speaker 1: star girlfriend instead of attending a non mandatory workout. You know,
26:10
Speaker 1: Coward used to have have a take on on his
26:14
Speaker 1: radio show. This was back to ESPN. There are two
26:17
Speaker 1: things in the world that make smart men dumb, and
26:21
Speaker 1: it's money and women. Justin Herbert is, I mean, I'm
26:28
Speaker 1: sure starting quarterback for a big time college program. Not
26:33
Speaker 1: like he never got laid in college or at a girlfriend.
26:36
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but this is probably a different level. Probably
26:39
Speaker 1: got some puppy eyes in love maybe that motivates him more.
26:43
Speaker 1: Maybe it distracts them. I wouldn't bet against it distracted him.
26:48
Speaker 1: But you know, we've seen men this get derail us
26:53
Speaker 1: a little bit. It's like, hey, you gonna Tuesday. I
26:57
Speaker 1: typically watch five hours of film. You're gonna watch film ors.
27:00
Speaker 1: She's like, Hey, I don't have anything to do. You
27:01
Speaker 1: want to just lay in bed all day? Does he
27:04
Speaker 1: have the discipline? I don't. I don't know about his
27:06
Speaker 1: backstory in terms of what he was like with women, right,
27:10
Speaker 1: like his has he always? Like? Is this his first
27:14
Speaker 1: real girlfriend? Uh? Is this? Has he ever? Is he
27:18
Speaker 1: experiencing things he's never experienced? Because yeah, I mean that's
27:22
Speaker 1: you'd be a fucking idiot to not say that couldn't
27:24
Speaker 1: derail you a little bit. So I would say it
27:27
Speaker 1: would be on the table. But I don't have enough details.
27:29
Speaker 1: I don't honestly don't even know who she is. I
27:32
Speaker 1: mean I've seen picks, but I don't know. I thought
27:36
Speaker 1: she was an actress. Maybe that's Josh Allen's wife. You know,
27:40
Speaker 1: I think some guys are unfaced, right, Christian McCaffrey, You
27:45
Speaker 1: just his discipline, Even Shanahan said last year, it's like
27:48
Speaker 1: I told him after the season, like, take a week off.
27:50
Speaker 1: I can't stop working. He's he's married to like a supermodel.
27:54
Speaker 1: He's unfaced. You know why. Christ McCaffrey's probably been getting
27:57
Speaker 1: late since he was like twelve. You know, this is
28:00
Speaker 1: and he's had He's never had trouble with women, So
28:03
Speaker 1: I think that factors in as well. You know, if
28:07
Speaker 1: Madison week three, you know you're getting ready to play
28:09
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, She's like, hey, honey, I know you're gonna
28:12
Speaker 1: watch a film, but you know I kind of wanted
28:14
Speaker 1: to do. You know, it's like, can you say no?
28:19
Speaker 1: I'm a Herbert fan, by the way, So maybe he's
28:22
Speaker 1: just been slaying for years. I don't know, not like
28:28
Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't exactly call Eugene and Oregon not bad,
28:32
Speaker 1: but no one's getting to twisted with like you know
28:34
Speaker 1: Arizona State or you know, Ole miss or Florida State.
28:39
Speaker 1: He in theory, would have the pick of the litter,
28:41
Speaker 1: but you never know. I think he's gained a lot
28:44
Speaker 1: of confidence since then. Wondering if I can get your
28:49
Speaker 1: take on the state of the Broncos. I feel a
28:51
Speaker 1: lot of people in the media and fans have made
28:54
Speaker 1: up their mind on who Bo was coming out of
28:56
Speaker 1: the draft and what kind of player he would be
28:58
Speaker 1: in the league. Since coming a pro, he has done
29:02
Speaker 1: nothing but exceed expectations and proved to be a serviceable quarterback.
29:06
Speaker 1: Uh though, like any others and flaws, do you feel
29:10
Speaker 1: like Bo can be at times unfairly criticized compared to
29:14
Speaker 1: his counterparts in the draft. Dude to whose perceived notion
29:19
Speaker 1: who they thought he was is definitely that perceived notion
29:25
Speaker 1: when you're coming out sticks with you for a little bit.
29:29
Speaker 1: It's it's hard to shake right when you're told you're
29:33
Speaker 1: the chosen one. Caleb Trevor Lawrence. Your expectations are borderline
29:39
Speaker 1: unfil unfair. You're you're treated like a like you gotta
29:42
Speaker 1: be like Lebron James, where it's like, oh, this guy's
29:45
Speaker 1: not good enough quarterback, so we nitpick you hard. But
29:48
Speaker 1: a guy like bow knicks. This is a ty Simpson thing.
29:52
Speaker 1: What's the thing with bo Nix and ty Simpson? Like
29:54
Speaker 1: this guy's not first round pick? Now, that's what I
29:57
Speaker 1: heard a lot with bo Nix. If I remember Cranky,
29:59
Speaker 1: you can take this in the first round. Sean Payton's like,
30:01
Speaker 1: we're not gonna take him his first und I'm gonna
30:03
Speaker 1: tell everybody he's my favorite quarterback in the draft. So,
30:06
Speaker 1: you know, Sean, which I appreciate. Sean Will be like,
30:11
Speaker 1: you guys want to quote, I'll give you. I'll give
30:13
Speaker 1: you a quote. You know, and he's like, damn, he
30:15
Speaker 1: said it. I was watching. He must be buddies with
30:19
Speaker 1: Trey Wingo. He went on his YouTube channel, Sean Will
30:22
Speaker 1: just that's why I appreciate about him. A lot of
30:26
Speaker 1: people say he's got a big ego. He's got I
30:29
Speaker 1: get it, he's got a big ego. I would too
30:31
Speaker 1: if I made twenty five million dollars a year and
30:34
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, what do we talk and won
30:36
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and just you know, won the AFC
30:40
Speaker 1: West for the first time a non Chiefs team in
30:43
Speaker 1: almost a decade. Like, yeah, he thinks highly of himself.
30:45
Speaker 1: Probably should. He's pretty good at his job. Now. Yeah,
30:49
Speaker 1: different people act differently, but ultimately a point is I
30:53
Speaker 1: think most people thought he was gonna be a second
30:54
Speaker 1: round pick, Like, how could I remove my bias from
30:58
Speaker 1: Ty Simpson. Let's say, worst case scenario, Stafford can't play
31:03
Speaker 1: this year like ty Simpson's playing, and they still win
31:07
Speaker 1: a bunch of games. But you're watching Ty Simpsons, You're like,
31:09
Speaker 1: they are not winning because of Ty Simpson. I'd be like, see,
31:13
Speaker 1: like they're just like given end rounds to Puka Nakua,
31:17
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett is forty five sacks. The hell's Ty Simpson doing.
31:22
Speaker 1: But if you love Ty Simpson, if you're Orlawsky, you'd
31:25
Speaker 1: be like, look at Ty Simpson, rookie, the pressure taking
31:30
Speaker 1: over this team, making some big plays in the fourth
31:33
Speaker 1: quarter of those three or four games. You know he's
31:36
Speaker 1: handling some adversity with maturity. So yeah, you can spin
31:40
Speaker 1: anything anyway you want it. The only thing that matters
31:44
Speaker 1: for the Broncos is twofold they win, and two he
31:48
Speaker 1: stays healthy. That to me is the only thing that matters.
31:52
Speaker 1: I think big picture, like if you're gonna or maybe
31:56
Speaker 1: not big picture, a little more like in depth analysis
32:00
Speaker 1: on the individual's game. He can't look atrocious, like I'm
32:05
Speaker 1: I have no horse in the race. I watched him
32:09
Speaker 1: at Oregon, he was excellent. I didn't watch that much
32:12
Speaker 1: Auburn when he was there obviously didn't go well. Seems
32:16
Speaker 1: like a pretty high level guy. I thought he was
32:21
Speaker 1: really good player at Oregon. The team was really good,
32:24
Speaker 1: so I'm kind of rooting for him. I kind of
32:26
Speaker 1: naturally do the guys that played from the PAC twelve historically,
32:29
Speaker 1: even though the conference doesn't exist. I guess it kind
32:31
Speaker 1: of does, but it's not really, it's just name that.
32:36
Speaker 1: So when I watch him play, it's like he makes
32:38
Speaker 1: some incredible plays. He also makes he also could just
32:41
Speaker 1: look awful. You could Caleb Williams had some of those moments, right,
32:47
Speaker 1: They just have these incredible fourth quarters, But it's like,
32:50
Speaker 1: why didn't you just play solid early on anyone? To
32:54
Speaker 1: see the speech James Dolan gave. He's another guy I
32:59
Speaker 1: know nothing about James Dolan beside what the media has
33:02
Speaker 1: told me. Village idiot, village idiot, village idiot. And I
33:05
Speaker 1: just agreed because their team sucked most of this the
33:08
Speaker 1: Internet era. Like he James Oland's a village idiot. And
33:11
Speaker 1: then and listen, maybe he was very meddlesome, but I
33:14
Speaker 1: just assume, like Dan Snyder, and then he builds the sphere.
33:18
Speaker 1: All the companies he's with, stocks are fucking skyrocketing. I
33:22
Speaker 1: watch him give a speech that I go, I'm pretty
33:27
Speaker 1: confident if we take baseball, basketball and football and take
33:31
Speaker 1: every single single owner less than ten percent could have
33:37
Speaker 1: done that and been as impressive his speech. I mean
33:41
Speaker 1: it has like Vince Lombardi vibes. It was. It was
33:44
Speaker 1: really impressive. But again we all get biased, Like my
33:50
Speaker 1: bias is well, I've seen every reporter tell me James
33:53
Speaker 1: Dolan is the biggest idiot in American history, and I
33:59
Speaker 1: just believe him because his team sucked. Maybe they just
34:04
Speaker 1: drafted and signed the wrong guys. I don't know what
34:06
Speaker 1: happens now. If he's the guy picking who to sign
34:12
Speaker 1: and draft, then that's on you. That was the Dan
34:15
Speaker 1: Snyder thing, right, He'd come in, he'd tell you to draft,
34:18
Speaker 1: like you're just showing up on draft. Ain't telling us
34:20
Speaker 1: who the draft? Yeah I am, I'm the owner. Happened
34:23
Speaker 1: all the time. So I think I think you're right
34:28
Speaker 1: on the bias. But I also think on the other
34:30
Speaker 1: side that there's been fair criticism of him. He's his
34:32
Speaker 1: team's I mean the Broncos. Like if if you flip
34:37
Speaker 1: flop quarterbacks last year in that playoff game, I think
34:41
Speaker 1: the Broncos I think go toe to toe with Seattle, right,
34:45
Speaker 1: they would have won the AFC and they would have
34:50
Speaker 1: been able to beat Seattle with Josh. I'm not saying
34:52
Speaker 1: they would have, but I'm just saying, like, very similar operation.
34:56
Speaker 1: Physical guys, pass rushers, team, speed on the back end,
35:00
Speaker 1: offensive playmakers, and you just like, let's say bo Knicks
35:04
Speaker 1: had been healthy going in against Seattle, like I would
35:07
Speaker 1: pro I'd give Seattle the like Mike McDonald and that
35:10
Speaker 1: defense against bow Nicks. So why I think he Here's
35:14
Speaker 1: another Sean Payton question. Can you see Sean Payton making
35:16
Speaker 1: a big splash at quarterback anytime soon? I think Denver
35:20
Speaker 1: team is great everywhere except Nicks. Well, I think it's
35:24
Speaker 1: gonna come down to his health. You know, as I'm
35:27
Speaker 1: recording this, I think they are they on the field
35:29
Speaker 1: this week. I know, maybe it was last week. I
35:32
Speaker 1: think Sean Payton was hoping that, you know, he would
35:34
Speaker 1: be able to do some stuff. In this time of year,
35:38
Speaker 1: They're always going to be cautious, right Like if they
35:41
Speaker 1: had the Super Bowl tomorrow, could Michael Pennix have practiced, Yes,
35:46
Speaker 1: if there was a Super Bowl tomorrow, could Patrick Mahomes
35:49
Speaker 1: have played in the game? Potentially? You know, you just
35:53
Speaker 1: never know. So I think bow Knicks is a guy
35:58
Speaker 1: that you know, he just that ankle issue is just
36:02
Speaker 1: a question mark moving forward. But this is a big
36:05
Speaker 1: year for him because I think Sean Payton's gonna think
36:07
Speaker 1: we can win the super Bowl. Remember last year he
36:11
Speaker 1: kept telling Diana Roussini, I don't know why I left,
36:15
Speaker 1: but that he just kept She just kept saying on
36:19
Speaker 1: different shows. I would hear on that he thought they
36:22
Speaker 1: could win the super Bowl. They're friends and h and
36:26
Speaker 1: I by like the third time I heard her saying,
36:29
Speaker 1: I'm I kind of believed him or believed her because
36:32
Speaker 1: he was so adamant and clearly he was right. They
36:34
Speaker 1: had a super Bowl level team and their quarterback was
36:37
Speaker 1: kind of the question throughout the season, and then obviously
36:39
Speaker 1: got injured on that freak play or was it a
36:42
Speaker 1: freak play? I mean, does he have a degenerate ankle?
36:44
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, time will tell. I worked
36:48
Speaker 1: for a big tech streamer, and I know for a
36:50
Speaker 1: fact these dudes could dust the legacy broadcasters in terms
36:55
Speaker 1: of deal size. But it's a different incentive for companies
36:58
Speaker 1: like Amazon and Apple. They just want people to continue
37:01
Speaker 1: buying their phones using Prime to buy stuff. Eyeballs are nice,
37:06
Speaker 1: but they're not a broadcast but there's not a broadcaster
37:08
Speaker 1: on Earth that actually makes revenue off of the broadcast packages.
37:13
Speaker 1: The streamers are like vultures and they're waiting for the
37:17
Speaker 1: legacy giants to crash, which they will eventually because no
37:21
Speaker 1: one has cable anymore. That industry was like a gigantic
37:24
Speaker 1: money making cabal. But now that folks are moving off
37:27
Speaker 1: the cable boxes, these old giants need to stay relevant,
37:31
Speaker 1: so they uh for over huge amounts. They overpay huge
37:36
Speaker 1: amounts for it's the only live TV anyone watches. Streamers
37:40
Speaker 1: will be the future, but I think that only comes
37:43
Speaker 1: when the amount of the contracts plateau. Just my two cents,
37:47
Speaker 1: it's a good point, right, I mean, Amazon's number one
37:50
Speaker 1: business is me just ordering fifty things a day to
37:53
Speaker 1: my house and it works, and they crush, and I
37:57
Speaker 1: would imagine their business is as big as they are.
37:59
Speaker 1: I feel like they're only gonna get bigger. So I
38:04
Speaker 1: do feel like they like the Amazon Prime thing one
38:08
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38:11
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38:17
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38:21
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38:22
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38:29
Speaker 1: I think they produce they do like the Thursday night
38:33
Speaker 1: Football because they put a lot of money into it.
38:35
Speaker 1: It gets a lot of people to watch. But like
38:37
Speaker 1: you said, are they going to get more and more
38:39
Speaker 1: involved Apple? Like, I'm with you there. The other one
38:43
Speaker 1: you said is I guess we haven't talked about Netflix.
38:48
Speaker 1: You're right, they're business models. Like at the end of
38:51
Speaker 1: the day, Fox CBS, what their business model is the
38:53
Speaker 1: TV is the games? You know, Apple, the airpot. I
39:00
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39:06
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39:10
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39:15
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39:19
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39:24
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39:27
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39:35
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39:39
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39:43
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39:46
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39:48
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39:53
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39:58
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Speaker 1: fifth When they got him from John Robinson for a
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Speaker 1: first and a third four years ago. Yep. That's one
42:18
Speaker 1: thing with it we that never gets accounted for is like,
42:21
Speaker 1: clearly AJ's market right now wasn't just booming. It wasn't
42:25
Speaker 1: like teams were lined up, but he still got a
42:27
Speaker 1: first round pick in a couple of years. But he
42:29
Speaker 1: also got to use the guy for four years. Like
42:32
Speaker 1: AJ Brown had five thousand freaking yards for him over
42:36
Speaker 1: a four year span, was all Pro, Pro Bowl, complete
42:40
Speaker 1: ass kicker, was their best wide receiver on two teams
42:44
Speaker 1: that went to a Super Bowl and one that won it. Like,
42:46
Speaker 1: we never account for that. Even it's like, you know,
42:49
Speaker 1: it wasn't easy giving away Jared Verse, which had to
42:53
Speaker 1: be tough. The Rams still got to use Jared Verse
42:55
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, So it's not like Miles
42:58
Speaker 1: Garrett is coming onto this team would not thing like
43:00
Speaker 1: Jared Verse had been there and he'd been a Pro bowler,
43:03
Speaker 1: So we never discussed that. When a player is Trent McDuffie,
43:08
Speaker 1: it's like not easy trading Trent McDuffie. But we used
43:11
Speaker 1: it first on him. We got a first for him,
43:13
Speaker 1: and we got to use them for three years. Imagine
43:17
Speaker 1: buying a fucking I mean, these suburbans and escalades are
43:20
Speaker 1: really expensive. So you just buy a six figure car,
43:23
Speaker 1: you drive it for three years. It's incredible. You're able
43:26
Speaker 1: to put your family in there, go to baseball games,
43:28
Speaker 1: travel around, do whatever you need to do, and then
43:31
Speaker 1: just take it back. And they're like, yeah, we'll just
43:33
Speaker 1: offer you, We'll just pay you what you paid. You're like,
43:38
Speaker 1: you feel like you'd hit the lottery. So totally, and
43:46
Speaker 1: I think his contract complicated it. I would say this,
43:50
Speaker 1: how he's a little lucky that Mike Vrabel is like
43:55
Speaker 1: one desperate for a wide receiver and two loves agm around.
43:58
Speaker 1: I do wonder if the Patriots didn't exist with the
44:01
Speaker 1: Rabel situation and kind of need a story, like if
44:06
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel wasn't their head coach but Mike McDonald was
44:09
Speaker 1: their head coach, would Elliot Wolf have just done that deal?
44:13
Speaker 1: Probably not question for the Bag. Following the tragic passing
44:17
Speaker 1: of Claude Lemieux, it has once again reignited the discussion
44:21
Speaker 1: our organizations doing enough to equip elite athletes for life
44:25
Speaker 1: after sport. I work in the elite athlete welfare space,
44:29
Speaker 1: and I know some of the responsibilities should fall back
44:32
Speaker 1: on the athlete. But in my opinion, I think these
44:35
Speaker 1: elite men and women are falling into the trap of
44:38
Speaker 1: believing that their value comes from their status as an
44:42
Speaker 1: elite sportsman woman a sportsman or woman, which will negatively
44:47
Speaker 1: affect their long term them long after they're done playing.
44:53
Speaker 1: How do professional programs help develop the person as well
44:56
Speaker 1: as the athlete and are they doing enough? I just
45:03
Speaker 1: don't think that it's their responsibility to Like, they're in
45:08
Speaker 1: the athlete business right now of trying to win. So
45:12
Speaker 1: when you leave now the good organizations, their doors are open,
45:15
Speaker 1: you're welcome. They stay focused on the game. So when
45:20
Speaker 1: a guy and Claude Lemieux who had a very or
45:25
Speaker 1: I don't know if he owned it, I'm pretty sure
45:27
Speaker 1: he did. Was post career, was a very very successful
45:32
Speaker 1: hockey agent. He had a ton of different businesses going
45:36
Speaker 1: on like he had. You would say, you know, some
45:39
Speaker 1: of these guys that I think it's gonna be much
45:41
Speaker 1: much harder unless people steal your money in this day
45:44
Speaker 1: and age with the amount of money they're making to
45:46
Speaker 1: truly go broke. But obviously some guys really struggle with
45:51
Speaker 1: he he was. He would be an example of someone
45:54
Speaker 1: that'd be like really kind of figured out his life
45:57
Speaker 1: post hockey, you know, like or top you know, be
46:00
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady's or Peyton Manning. Like those guys handle
46:02
Speaker 1: it really really well. You know, Boomer Sizin's a radio host.
46:06
Speaker 1: You know guys that just can find another profession to
46:08
Speaker 1: do something because you're done at thirty five forty. It's
46:11
Speaker 1: like you're not gonna play golf every day. You're getting
46:13
Speaker 1: bored out of your mind. You can only take your
46:14
Speaker 1: kids to school, like okay, it's like what else are
46:16
Speaker 1: you gonna do? You know, once your kids hit a
46:18
Speaker 1: certain age, it's one thing you know, like Jack for example,
46:22
Speaker 1: like if you are watching them as I call babysitting
46:25
Speaker 1: my wife calls being a parent, Like this morning, I
46:28
Speaker 1: was with them the longest I'd ever been straight of
46:32
Speaker 1: just me and him. Now she was around, but I
46:34
Speaker 1: was like, it was my responsibility. He can't like you
46:37
Speaker 1: have to like he can't even go in the bed
46:39
Speaker 1: by himself in terms of his crip because he was
46:41
Speaker 1: just freak out at this point in time. So you
46:43
Speaker 1: just hold him to the NonStop, feed him whatever. But
46:45
Speaker 1: once they hit like seven, eight years old, they go
46:47
Speaker 1: to school and they're gone all day long. So after
46:50
Speaker 1: a while, like you drop them off and then they
46:52
Speaker 1: get to an age like they don't even want to
46:53
Speaker 1: hang out with you. They're gonna hang out with their friends.
46:56
Speaker 1: So you need to do stuff. So yeah, I mean
47:00
Speaker 1: I think they do. I guess you could always do more.
47:06
Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't know, call me an asshole,
47:08
Speaker 1: like isn't that's kind of what the money's for, Like
47:11
Speaker 1: you figure it out. Not everyone gets. These guys have
47:14
Speaker 1: their handheld, you know, most of these pro athletes the
47:18
Speaker 1: whole time. Anyway, there's so much you can do for
47:21
Speaker 1: certain people. Obviously, the worst case scenario is something that tragic.
47:26
Speaker 1: But again I don't know enough. You know, I know
47:33
Speaker 1: a lot of people obviously in clause life. But like
47:36
Speaker 1: when I met him, my takeaway would have been and
47:38
Speaker 1: after hearing about a story and talking to him that night,
47:42
Speaker 1: like this guy is really impressive. That was my number
47:46
Speaker 1: one takeaway the night that I left his son in
47:49
Speaker 1: laws and his daughter the party they threw and talking
47:54
Speaker 1: to Claude being like, damn, that is that's an impressive
47:59
Speaker 1: ask guy. So I guess you know, obviously mental health
48:02
Speaker 1: and dealing with depression or whatever. Again I'm just guessing
48:05
Speaker 1: now you would just be like he'd have to seek
48:09
Speaker 1: help because everything he's got going in life would be thriving.
48:12
Speaker 1: So it's like unless he's gonna seek help or someone
48:14
Speaker 1: around him, which is gonna be difficult because he's doing
48:19
Speaker 1: so well in life if they saw it, which would
48:21
Speaker 1: probably be like his wife or business partner. So once
48:24
Speaker 1: you start doing well post career, even if you got
48:28
Speaker 1: some demons inside, you're gonna need someone to push you
48:31
Speaker 1: to get some help unless you're willing to get it
48:33
Speaker 1: for yourself. So this is where there's no easy answer,
48:36
Speaker 1: like what's the team supposed to do? Monitor every guy
48:39
Speaker 1: that plays for him? I also think there's some teams
48:43
Speaker 1: that truly don't give a crap, and there are definitely
48:46
Speaker 1: some teams that care more. I mean, is this kind
48:50
Speaker 1: of cold blooded to say, like you watch Jerry right
48:53
Speaker 1: when he's around Emmett and Troy and Michael and the
48:56
Speaker 1: relationship those guys have. Am I supposed to have a
48:59
Speaker 1: good relationship if I pay a guy a lot of
49:01
Speaker 1: if I'm an owner or whatever and the guys is
49:03
Speaker 1: not good? I mean, I mean that's think about business.
49:07
Speaker 1: Who are you close with people you have successes with
49:09
Speaker 1: If you're just failing all the time, you'll probably leave,
49:12
Speaker 1: you know, and not continue to talk to that person.
49:16
Speaker 1: It's a good question, though, question for the pod. Do
49:19
Speaker 1: you think guys like Anthony Richson or Field should switch positions?
49:22
Speaker 1: Tied end for richardson running back for Fields. I just
49:27
Speaker 1: think it's very difficult once you make it to the
49:29
Speaker 1: NFL as a quarterback. The guys that usually switch positions
49:33
Speaker 1: switch it as they're coming into the NFL, Right, Antoine
49:36
Speaker 1: Randall l Edelman, I'm trying to think did Terrell prior
49:48
Speaker 1: am I? Am I losing my mind? Am I having
49:50
Speaker 1: baby brain? I think he changed positions, isn't he? I
49:53
Speaker 1: think he just got arrested for a little MDMA. Yeah
49:59
Speaker 1: he did. He he moved a receiver. He you know,
50:03
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty rare. So he moved to wide receiver?
50:13
Speaker 1: What year do to do that? Like four or five
50:18
Speaker 1: years into his career. That's I would say more of
50:21
Speaker 1: an outlier than something that happens a lot. I listened
50:27
Speaker 1: to the description what Andrew Berry was looking for in
50:29
Speaker 1: Cleveland and wonder if they're finally going to be able
50:31
Speaker 1: to reset after Watson dropping the Garrett contract and stocking
50:35
Speaker 1: up on quality rookie rookie picks. Sounds like Barry could
50:39
Speaker 1: redeem himself. What do you think he definitely like, I
50:45
Speaker 1: like the Garrett trade for them, and he's done a
50:48
Speaker 1: really good job acquiring a ton of good players. But
50:51
Speaker 1: I've used his example the Jets. It's all gonna come
50:53
Speaker 1: down to the quarterback. Because the Jets and Joe Douglas
50:58
Speaker 1: drafted guys that they could flip for ones years later,
51:01
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas has guys on max contracts still on their team.
51:05
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas has guys that are on other teams making
51:07
Speaker 1: a ton of money. It's like, but they could never
51:10
Speaker 1: find the quarterback, and the Jets were a disaster. So
51:13
Speaker 1: unless they could find they don't need their Mahomes or
51:17
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. Can they just find they're
51:19
Speaker 1: like Dak Prescott, just a guy that can like get
51:22
Speaker 1: them going. I read Isaiah Bond the dude. They got
51:25
Speaker 1: a little troubles crushing h Well, I guess it was
51:28
Speaker 1: fake trouble because she made it up and then it
51:30
Speaker 1: got dropped or whatever. But they got some wide receivers,
51:33
Speaker 1: they got a running back, old line's gonna be a
51:35
Speaker 1: work in progress. You know, Usually when you trade a
51:39
Speaker 1: guy like Miles Garrett, he's like, what are we gonna do?
51:41
Speaker 1: They just added verse. I'm not saying versus as good
51:45
Speaker 1: as Miles Garrett, but when typically, like I saw the
51:50
Speaker 1: Raiders trade Khalil Mack, they never replaced them. Well, they
51:55
Speaker 1: tried with Cleveland Ferrell. Okay, this will be the last
52:01
Speaker 1: question and then we'll piggyback in tomorrow's. Oh you see
52:05
Speaker 1: this being a year to be high on Jordan Love
52:07
Speaker 1: as an MVP. With the Josh Jacobs situation and them
52:10
Speaker 1: not particularly having a ton of talent or good health
52:12
Speaker 1: in the backfield, I wonder if this is the year
52:15
Speaker 1: Lafleur lets the pass open up and uh get away
52:20
Speaker 1: from the run. Listen, they don't give a shit about
52:25
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs. One thing you can tell in the NFL,
52:28
Speaker 1: all these guys got DVS domestic violence, which for most
52:32
Speaker 1: of us makes us go like, uh, that's really bad.
52:36
Speaker 1: The team's like, oh, see your practice tomorrow. The Falcons
52:38
Speaker 1: were like, oh, James Spearce, you're in some house halfway house.
52:41
Speaker 1: All the charges drop, Come on, come on down, buddy,
52:45
Speaker 1: eleven sacks that the teams do not give a shit.
52:48
Speaker 1: So if you want to get on your moral high horse,
52:51
Speaker 1: I don't blame you like that's to me, that's something
52:54
Speaker 1: worthy of being like that can't be tolerated, but it's
52:57
Speaker 1: always been tolerated and it will continue to be tolerated.
53:00
Speaker 1: So unless Josh Jacobs is going to the pen, like,
53:03
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs is gonna be their running back. And one
53:05
Speaker 1: thing I know about Josh Jacobs preak good player. So
53:07
Speaker 1: as long as he's there, Laflour's gonna want to give
53:09
Speaker 1: them the ball. And I just don't know about their
53:11
Speaker 1: passing game. I mean, can Watson's hammy last seventeen games.
53:16
Speaker 1: They're gonna need the young dude from Texas to step up,
53:20
Speaker 1: and uh, Tucker Craft's injury situation is kind of a
53:25
Speaker 1: I don't love that bet. If he won MVP, I
53:28
Speaker 1: would say Lafleur would be coach of the Year because
53:30
Speaker 1: they would be one. They'd be without Micah for a
53:33
Speaker 1: little bit. They clearly replaced Halflee. I guess could be
53:36
Speaker 1: a little bit of a year in progress. You're like
53:41
Speaker 1: a like a transitional period for the Packers would be
53:44
Speaker 1: would be my guess you know, end on that audios
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Speaker 1: talk to everybody soon tomorrow the volume