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- 0:01Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Welcome to a new episode of Legally Brunette.
- 0:05Speaker 1: I will be your host Emily Simpson and Shane Just Shane.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Today we are going to discuss breaking news that Nancy
- 0:13Speaker 1: Guthrie is missing, story which I'm sure you've all heard
- 0:16Speaker 1: about unless you've been living under a rock, because it's
- 0:19Speaker 1: basically everywhere. So we would just want to talk about
- 0:22Speaker 1: where we're at. There's been so much information that's been
- 0:24Speaker 1: coming out. Every time I look at what is my
- 0:26Speaker 1: new source, Instagram, Instagram. Every time I look at Instagram,
- 0:30Speaker 1: there's just a new update. And there was a press
- 0:33Speaker 1: conference today a couple hours ago. So I feel as
- 0:37Speaker 1: if we are bringing you the most recent developments. But
- 0:40Speaker 1: by the time we record this they'll probably they'll probably
- 0:43Speaker 1: be more. We'll be talking about it again. So eighty
- 0:46Speaker 1: four year old Nancy Guthrie is the mother of Today
- 0:49Speaker 1: co host Savannah Guthrie, and she remains missing from her
- 0:52Speaker 1: Tucson area home. Authorities continue to treat the case as
- 0:56Speaker 1: a criminal investigation. Investigators recently returned to her property, conducting
- 1:01Speaker 1: renewed searches with canine units and combing nearby wooded areas,
- 1:06Speaker 1: indicating new or ongoing leads. Law enforcement says evidence at
- 1:11Speaker 1: the home suggests that she was taken against her will,
- 1:15Speaker 1: including biological DNA and blood near the entry and signs
- 1:20Speaker 1: of forced entry. No suspects or persons of interests have
- 1:24Speaker 1: been publicly identified, other than by what we were talking
- 1:28Speaker 1: about earlier by Ashley Banfield, but we'll talk about that
- 1:32Speaker 1: and a little bit. Authorities are investigating reports of ransom notes,
- 1:36Speaker 1: some reportedly sent to media outlets. Savannah Guthrie and her
- 1:40Speaker 1: siblings released a public video appeal This was yesterday, asking
- 1:44Speaker 1: for proof of life and saying they are willing to
- 1:47Speaker 1: communicate if her mother is alive. I watched it. It
- 1:50Speaker 1: was actually heartbreaking. It was Samantha and her sister and brother.
- 1:54Speaker 1: There's three siblings, and you know what I was thinking,
- 2:00Speaker 1: is so difficult in today's age? Is proof of life?
- 2:04Speaker 1: I mean with AI.
- 2:05Speaker 2: Well that's what they said in their video.
- 2:06Speaker 1: Right and I and I But when they said that,
- 2:08Speaker 1: I thought that, how do I mean, at this point
- 2:11Speaker 1: in time, how do you have proof of life? Because
- 2:14Speaker 1: you can manipulate voices. You could say she's on the
- 2:17Speaker 1: phone and it could be her voice.
- 2:18Speaker 2: But well, the old days used to be held up
- 2:20Speaker 2: a newspaper and took a picture with it. So it
- 2:22Speaker 2: was like, this is the date. I'm alive on this day, right,
- 2:25Speaker 2: But now, what are you going to do?
- 2:28Speaker 1: I mean you there are.
- 2:31Speaker 2: The time.
- 2:32Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like, what in today's age, right now,
- 2:36Speaker 1: as of this moment, what could you do to prove
- 2:39Speaker 1: proof of life? Because I feel like everything could be.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Manipulated in or like a real time conversation, It.
- 2:48Speaker 1: Would have to be a real time FaceTime conversation where
- 2:52Speaker 1: you were asking, Well.
- 2:53Speaker 2: You could ask him a question that only that person
- 2:55Speaker 2: would know.
- 2:57Speaker 1: That's true.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what you would do.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Yeah, But I still feel like you would have to
- 3:04Speaker 1: have more than that because maybe these I don't know you, yeah, exactly.
- 3:09Speaker 2: Feel like what's your favorite song? And they'll be like, oh,
- 3:12Speaker 2: it's I don't know what's your favorite? I don't know,
- 3:15Speaker 2: And then I'd be like, I don't know, is that
- 3:17Speaker 2: her favorite song? Yeah? I think it's her hurt.
- 3:21Speaker 1: So authorities are investigating reports of ransom notes. We talked
- 3:23Speaker 1: about that talked about proof of life, and the FBI
- 3:26Speaker 1: is assisting and federal resources have been offered official stress
- 3:30Speaker 1: urgency because Nancy got three requires daily medication, increasing concern
- 3:34Speaker 1: for her health and safety. Yeah, she's eighty four, and
- 3:38Speaker 1: we know that she has a pacemaker because that was
- 3:42Speaker 1: reported that you know, her pacemaker disconnected from her phone or.
- 3:48Speaker 2: Likely from being removed further away from her watch, her
- 3:51Speaker 2: phone or whatever it was, whatever device, and so it
- 3:54Speaker 2: lost contact, right and at almost two in the morning
- 3:56Speaker 2: or something.
- 3:57Speaker 1: Well, they released they did a press conference today, also
- 4:00Speaker 1: released a timeline. I looked at the timeline several times
- 4:03Speaker 1: because it's pretty specific, and I realized how much of
- 4:07Speaker 1: a digital age we live in that even her opening
- 4:09Speaker 1: the garage door and closing it like that was time
- 4:11Speaker 1: standing and then.
- 4:12Speaker 2: Her uber right, So it has drop off times, and.
- 4:16Speaker 1: So we know on January thirty first, at five thirty
- 4:19Speaker 1: two pm, Nancy travels to a local family member's home.
- 4:23Speaker 1: I believe that she had dinner with family that night.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Then at nine forty eight pm that night, this is
- 4:28Speaker 1: still in January thirty first, the family drops Nancy off
- 4:31Speaker 1: at home and the garage door opens. So there's some
- 4:34Speaker 1: digital footprint of the garage door opening. How do you
- 4:37Speaker 1: find that? Can you find that on your garage door?
- 4:39Speaker 1: Like we have an electric garage door.
- 4:41Speaker 2: I think it was her what time she got dropped off,
- 4:44Speaker 2: and what time she closed the garage door.
- 4:45Speaker 1: It was nine fifty But how do you how do
- 4:47Speaker 1: they know that? I'm saying they know specifically what time
- 4:49Speaker 1: the garage door opened and what time it closed. I'm
- 4:51Speaker 1: just saying, does the garage.
- 4:52Speaker 2: R connected her phone? You know? Yeah?
- 4:56Speaker 1: So then at nine to fifty pm the garage door closes.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Now the following morning, this is now February first, at
- 5:04Speaker 1: one seven am, a doorbell camera disconnects. That's scary. So
- 5:09Speaker 1: what that's a ring? Right? A ring camera?
- 5:12Speaker 2: Yeah, well it rings a brand, but it's a doorbell camera.
- 5:14Speaker 1: Okay, And it disconnects. Then at two twelve am, software
- 5:18Speaker 1: detects a person on camera. However, there's no video available.
- 5:22Speaker 2: To the Emotion subscription. IT'SID motion detected, but they didn't
- 5:26Speaker 2: preserve the video because they didn't they didn't subscribe.
- 5:31Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to come back to that because I
- 5:32Speaker 1: want you to explain that. And then at two twenty
- 5:34Speaker 1: eight am, the pacemaker app shows a disconnect from her phone,
- 5:39Speaker 1: which you were saying. It's a disconnect at two twenty
- 5:42Speaker 1: eight because she's outside the realm of the bluetooth being
- 5:45Speaker 1: able to pick it up right, so she's probably.
- 5:47Speaker 2: Sad thinking and if she was killed right then and there,
- 5:51Speaker 2: and therefore her heart's not beating, I'm guessing the pacemaker
- 5:55Speaker 2: still transmits some type of dat.
- 5:57Speaker 1: Some type of information, but it's not transmitting any information, So.
- 6:00Speaker 2: She's outside not reaching the receiving end, yeah, like the
- 6:03Speaker 2: phone or watch or whatever it is.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Then at eleven fifty six am, the family checks on Nancy.
- 6:08Speaker 1: I believe that's because she was supposed to be at
- 6:09Speaker 1: church that morning and she didn't show up for church,
- 6:13Speaker 1: so then the family was they someone contacted the family
- 6:16Speaker 1: and said, you know, Nancy wasn't at church, and then
- 6:19Speaker 1: at twelve oh three pm they called nine to one one,
- 6:22Speaker 1: and then at twelve fifteen that's when the police arrive.
- 6:25Speaker 1: So that's the timeline. Now as far as the subscription, See,
- 6:29Speaker 1: this is what I don't understand because I'm not a
- 6:30Speaker 1: techie person at all, and you were just making fun
- 6:33Speaker 1: of me a minute ago saying that I don't even
- 6:36Speaker 1: know how to turn on a computer, which is not
- 6:37Speaker 1: an exaggeration. I literally don't know how to do anything
- 6:41Speaker 1: technical at all.
- 6:43Speaker 2: I just agree because you know anything about Instagram. Yeah,
- 6:46Speaker 2: but I never said, hey, here's a shopping app. Can
- 6:48Speaker 2: you help me install it and set it? Note you've
- 6:51Speaker 2: never had a problem buying anything at a digital age,
- 6:54Speaker 2: so you can learn. You choose not to.
- 6:56Speaker 1: I choose not to. Shane, is the IT department our
- 7:00Speaker 1: home And so as far as there being no subscription,
- 7:04Speaker 1: that means that the ring or whatever type of doorbell
- 7:06Speaker 1: she has, it's just on a loop and it's not
- 7:08Speaker 1: saving it.
- 7:09Speaker 2: You can just see live video. It's like a peephole.
- 7:12Speaker 2: You can see so right now you could log in
- 7:15Speaker 2: and see what's at your front door. But it's not
- 7:18Speaker 2: preserving it.
- 7:19Speaker 1: So what does that mean when it says it was disabled?
- 7:21Speaker 1: What did someone do?
- 7:22Speaker 2: They just they it's still connected to Wi Fi.
- 7:26Speaker 1: Okay, But my question is for someone whoever this is
- 7:29Speaker 1: this person of interests or whoever abducted her to disable it?
- 7:32Speaker 1: They are they inside the house at this point?
- 7:35Speaker 2: The doorbell is on the outside of the house.
- 7:37Speaker 1: That's what my question is. How do they how are
- 7:39Speaker 1: they disabling it?
- 7:40Speaker 2: They yank it off the wall and they they smash it.
- 7:44Speaker 1: So you're saying, that's oh, so it wasn't like some.
- 7:46Speaker 2: What do you think they do? They tapped in with
- 7:48Speaker 2: some laptop and they were like, yes, sitting there like
- 7:51Speaker 2: mission and bunds.
- 7:52Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I pictured.
- 7:53Speaker 2: No, they yanked it off the doorframe and then they
- 7:56Speaker 2: took it with them.
- 7:56Speaker 1: So you're saying they just removed it and then okay,
- 8:00Speaker 1: all right, well okay, but the takeaway from this is
- 8:02Speaker 1: that you should have a subscription if.
- 8:05Speaker 2: You want to up your safety. She had a subscription.
- 8:08Speaker 2: It would have saved whatever video was captured. I don't
- 8:12Speaker 2: know if they would have been on it. I don't
- 8:14Speaker 2: know if they came in from the back door and
- 8:16Speaker 2: then went to the front door without getting in front
- 8:17Speaker 2: of the camera and yanked it. I don't know, but
- 8:19Speaker 2: it would have shown something something other than just motion
- 8:23Speaker 2: detected and then disabled. All right.
- 8:33Speaker 1: So then on Monday, February second, authorities officially upgrade the
- 8:36Speaker 1: case to a criminal investigation. The sheriff says evidence indicates
- 8:39Speaker 1: she did not leave voluntarily, and the FBI joins the case.
- 8:42Speaker 1: We do know that there was blood found on the
- 8:44Speaker 1: front porch.
- 8:45Speaker 2: Like blood drops.
- 8:46Speaker 1: It blood drops. I saw a photo of it. It
- 8:48Speaker 1: wasn't a large amount of blood, not enough for you
- 8:51Speaker 1: to say death, she's deceased. It was like dribbles of blood.
- 8:57Speaker 1: But then my question is what type of enjury occurred
- 9:02Speaker 1: that would make someone bleed, but not with an intent
- 9:05Speaker 1: to kill.
- 9:06Speaker 2: I mean, that's not that far fetched.
- 9:08Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just so sadistic. So I think
- 9:10Speaker 1: someone just broke into this woman's.
- 9:11Speaker 2: Home, smacker on the head, and then they pull her out.
- 9:14Speaker 2: I don't know, it could have been anything.
- 9:16Speaker 1: Then, on Tuesday, February third, the officials confirmed that the
- 9:18Speaker 1: DNA evidence was collected from inside the home and have
- 9:21Speaker 1: confirmed that her blood was found near the front door
- 9:24Speaker 1: as well. Officials are now saying that there's been no
- 9:28Speaker 1: proof of life, and reports of a possible ransom note
- 9:32Speaker 1: start to emerge. Now that ransom note is just throwing
- 9:36Speaker 1: me for a loop because there's multiple ransom notes. As
- 9:39Speaker 1: far as what I understand.
- 9:40Speaker 2: I said the end of the day, I think they're
- 9:42Speaker 2: just milking the opportunity.
- 9:45Speaker 1: Okay, so something, let's talk about the ransom notes. So
- 9:49Speaker 1: TMZ was the first to reveal details about a ransom note.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Investigators are saying this is the only note they're taking seriously.
- 9:56Speaker 1: But that doesn't make sense to me because there was
- 9:58Speaker 1: also another ransom note that came into a Tucson news
- 10:03Speaker 1: news station, and I saw them talking about it and
- 10:08Speaker 1: giving a report on it. And that ransom note has
- 10:12Speaker 1: corroborating evidence in it that talks specifically about what the
- 10:15Speaker 1: inside of the house looks like and about what Nancy
- 10:17Speaker 1: was wearing that evening. So I don't know, but they're
- 10:20Speaker 1: saying the only note, ransom note they're taking seriously is
- 10:23Speaker 1: such an MC one.
- 10:23Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, I don't know.
- 10:26Speaker 1: So TMZ reported that the note, which was sent to
- 10:28Speaker 1: them Tuesday morning, demands a specific and very substantial amount
- 10:32Speaker 1: of bitcoin. The amount is in the millions, and the
- 10:35Speaker 1: note demands the cryptocurrency be sent to a specific bitcoin address.
- 10:41Speaker 1: TMZ has verified that the bitcoin address is real. Now,
- 10:44Speaker 1: how do you know? Can you? How can you have
- 10:46Speaker 1: an anonymous bitcoin address? And then how do you withdraw
- 10:49Speaker 1: from it? I'm this all this technology stuff is just
- 10:54Speaker 1: boggling my mind.
- 10:55Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe these, maybe both ransom notes are real.
- 10:58Speaker 2: Maybe it's like the criminals are just goofballs and they
- 11:01Speaker 2: don't know what they're doing. They're like, wait, you sin
- 11:03Speaker 2: a ransom? No I sent a ransom. No, Wait who
- 11:04Speaker 2: did you send yours? To? Wait? How much are you
- 11:06Speaker 2: asking for That's what it was like.
- 11:08Speaker 1: I said it to TMZ.
- 11:09Speaker 2: Where did you say, it's like the three stooges, they
- 11:11Speaker 2: don't know what they're doing.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Well, I would hope for Nancy's sake that you're right,
- 11:16Speaker 1: that it's just some dumb, dumb juices that abducted her,
- 11:20Speaker 1: and hopefully she's okay again. TMC has verified the bitcoin
- 11:24Speaker 1: address is real. I don't even understand what bitcoin is,
- 11:26Speaker 1: and I will tell you I own some bitcoin. I
- 11:28Speaker 1: bought some just because I just felt like it, because
- 11:31Speaker 1: it seemed like the thing to do, and it's actually increased.
- 11:35Speaker 1: I now have more bitcoin than I used to have.
- 11:37Speaker 1: But I don't know what it.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Is or how What is what is money? Really?
- 11:44Speaker 1: I don't even understand that content either, because it's like
- 11:47Speaker 1: paper money isn't really money. It has to be backed
- 11:49Speaker 1: by gold, right, So what is bitcoin?
- 11:53Speaker 2: It's just a digital currency.
- 11:56Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't understand bitcoin.
- 11:59Speaker 2: You don't need it understanding. I understand that she is missing,
- 12:02Speaker 2: I know, and there's a ransom note and they want
- 12:04Speaker 2: something for her.
- 12:05Speaker 1: There is a deadline connected to the alleged ransom, and
- 12:09Speaker 1: an element of or else the alleged ransom note. Else
- 12:13Speaker 1: what I don't know.
- 12:15Speaker 2: That means they don't have a plan. There's that that
- 12:17Speaker 2: almost sounds like a fake ransom note because they don't
- 12:19Speaker 2: even know what to do.
- 12:20Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if they literally said or else,
- 12:22Speaker 1: because they're just not giving away actual what the verbiage
- 12:26Speaker 1: actually is. They're just summarizing it was a large amount
- 12:29Speaker 1: of money. Well, you know, they're not doing that publicly
- 12:31Speaker 1: because they want to be able to you know, they
- 12:33Speaker 1: don't want to give too much information about the ransom note,
- 12:37Speaker 1: the alleged I like how they called alleged ransom note
- 12:39Speaker 1: because we're not talking.
- 12:41Speaker 2: About like validity. Is alleged r note exists?
- 12:46Speaker 1: So are we saying TMZ?
- 12:48Speaker 2: I don't believe it much from TMZ really.
- 12:50Speaker 1: Is so the alleged ransom note also describes another item
- 12:53Speaker 1: the sender says was damaged at her Tucson area at home. See,
- 12:57Speaker 1: now that's that's corroborating if they talk about some that
- 13:00Speaker 1: was damaged when they abducted her.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Yeah, unless it's an inside job.
- 13:04Speaker 1: What is inside job?
- 13:06Speaker 2: Like what if it's like a police officer it was
- 13:08Speaker 2: like in on it and he's like, oh sweet, I
- 13:10Speaker 2: know this is broken. I know she was wearing this.
- 13:12Speaker 2: I'm going to send a ransom.
- 13:13Speaker 1: Oh you're saying like someone involved in the investigation is
- 13:17Speaker 1: making ransom notes on the side, trying to make some
- 13:19Speaker 1: trying to get some bitcoin.
- 13:21Speaker 2: Like the housekeeper grounds keeper. I don't know they forwarded
- 13:25Speaker 2: for they should, They should do a little combing of
- 13:28Speaker 2: the who'sn't working in the area and see if anyone's
- 13:30Speaker 2: from the Boston PD. Yes, because they're.
- 13:33Speaker 1: Shady, right, they forwarded the alleged ransom demand to the
- 13:38Speaker 1: Pima County Sheriff. Then now we Pema County, Pema County,
- 13:43Speaker 1: p I m A Pema. On Wednesday, February fourth, CNN
- 13:47Speaker 1: came out with more reports on the note as well,
- 13:50Speaker 1: and anchor Mary Coleman appeared on CNN's Aaron Burnett out
- 13:55Speaker 1: Front to reveal information about the alleged ransom note the
- 13:58Speaker 1: station received. See this is where I question, is this
- 14:02Speaker 1: the same ransom note that also went to TMZ or
- 14:05Speaker 1: is this a different ransom note?
- 14:07Speaker 2: This is where I don't know.
- 14:09Speaker 1: So, Coleman said, she is a news anchor that works
- 14:13Speaker 1: at this news station that received a ransom note. There
- 14:16Speaker 1: are a few things that we can share as far
- 14:18Speaker 1: as what the contents were, a lot of it is
- 14:20Speaker 1: information that only someone who is holding her for ransom
- 14:23Speaker 1: would know, some very sensitive information and things that people
- 14:27Speaker 1: who were there when she was taken captive would know. See.
- 14:31Speaker 1: I find that interesting because in the press conference the
- 14:33Speaker 1: police said that they only are taking the ransom note
- 14:36Speaker 1: from that the TMZ ransom note is the only one
- 14:38Speaker 1: they're taking. Seriously. However, this news anchor is talking about
- 14:41Speaker 1: the ransom note that the news station received and saying
- 14:44Speaker 1: that it has corroborating would.
- 14:45Speaker 2: Make you think that's two different notes, two.
- 14:48Speaker 1: Different notes, or why are the police not.
- 14:50Speaker 2: Saying a photocopy of the other?
- 14:52Speaker 1: I don't know, she continued, So those are things that
- 14:56Speaker 1: are concerning. We immediately sent that information over to the
- 14:59Speaker 1: sheriff's to apartment. Additionally, Coleman said a detective asked for
- 15:03Speaker 1: more information about an IP address for the email. She
- 15:07Speaker 1: also confirmed that the ransom letter included a dollar amount
- 15:10Speaker 1: as well as a deadline and other specifics that only
- 15:14Speaker 1: Guthrie's abductor might know. So that definitely raised some red flag.
- 15:18Speaker 1: So again there's my question, are.
- 15:20Speaker 2: We talking by email?
- 15:22Speaker 1: It was by email?
- 15:24Speaker 2: Okay? So it wasn't like the where they cut up
- 15:25Speaker 2: the little magazine letters. Now that's old school.
- 15:28Speaker 1: That's old school. They don't do that anymore.
- 15:29Speaker 2: They won cryptocurrency.
- 15:31Speaker 1: Yeah, they went bitcoin and they sent emails.
- 15:33Speaker 2: Yeah okay.
- 15:42Speaker 1: Also on Wednesday, February fourth, investigators returned to Nancy's home
- 15:46Speaker 1: with K nine units and an online prayer vigil for
- 15:49Speaker 1: Nancy was held. So here we are currently, where are
- 15:52Speaker 1: we at? Savannah Guthrie? This is the daughter has issued
- 15:56Speaker 1: a public plea for the safe return of her mother.
- 15:59Speaker 1: In a video released with her siblings, the family address
- 16:02Speaker 1: reports of potential ransom messages, asking anyone involved to confirm
- 16:07Speaker 1: that Nancy Guthrie is alive, and stating we are ready
- 16:11Speaker 1: to listen, you know. That says we're ready to negotiate.
- 16:14Speaker 1: That says we got your ransom letters. There are some
- 16:17Speaker 1: things that are concerning in them. Is what I would
- 16:19Speaker 1: take away from that that there's information that seems specific
- 16:23Speaker 1: and knowledgeable only to someone that would have been there.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Savannah Guthrie has said that her mother suffers from chronic
- 16:30Speaker 1: pain and depends on daily prescription medication, heightening fears about
- 16:36Speaker 1: the risk that she faces while she is missing. P
- 16:40Speaker 1: MC County's Sheriff Chris Nanos, held a press conference earlier
- 16:43Speaker 1: today to share the latest information. During the news conference,
- 16:47Speaker 1: Heath Jenkie, who is the FBI Phoenix's Special Agent in charge,
- 16:51Speaker 1: confirmed that one arrest was made regarding an impostor ransom note.
- 16:55Speaker 1: See that's my question. If one is an impostor, I'm
- 16:59Speaker 1: going to assume the one that went to the police
- 17:01Speaker 1: station is possibly the.
- 17:03Speaker 2: I read that both were sent to the police station,
- 17:05Speaker 2: because I think that's probably a good protocol. And I
- 17:07Speaker 2: think right now, I think they're not They're purposely not
- 17:11Speaker 2: providing all the information publicly, like that's not their concern,
- 17:14Speaker 2: and plus THEYD to verify things. What if these two
- 17:17Speaker 2: ransom notes were written by people that are connected. So
- 17:21Speaker 2: I mean, I think they're being very careful in what
- 17:23Speaker 2: they're allowing the public to know. And that's why we
- 17:26Speaker 2: don't know everything right now about these two ransom notes,
- 17:29Speaker 2: right Like I so, I think your questions are valid.
- 17:32Speaker 2: Are they the same, are they different? Blah blah blah,
- 17:36Speaker 2: And I think what you said is all we know
- 17:38Speaker 2: right now.
- 17:39Speaker 1: Well, it's very difficult to connect all the dots right
- 17:41Speaker 1: now because they are giving a very limited amount of information,
- 17:43Speaker 1: like you said, So it's like we have these conclusions.
- 17:46Speaker 1: There's a ransom note. TMZ got a ransom note, this
- 17:49Speaker 1: news station got a ransom note, but it's hard to
- 17:51Speaker 1: figure out what was said, which one is the imposter,
- 17:54Speaker 1: which one is.
- 17:56Speaker 2: They're still looking for suspects, so even if they think, hey,
- 17:59Speaker 2: this one's fake, but maybe they don't want to tell
- 18:01Speaker 2: people because maybe they wanted to weed out more people suspects.
- 18:05Speaker 1: I don't know. So the special Agent in charge of
- 18:08Speaker 1: this case confirmed that one arrest was made regarding an
- 18:11Speaker 1: impostor ransom note. The FBI is now offering a fifty
- 18:15Speaker 1: thousand dollars award for information that will help find Nancy. Now,
- 18:19Speaker 1: that was they found. If they arrested someone, that means
- 18:22Speaker 1: they figured out that the note was an impostor, figured
- 18:25Speaker 1: out who sent it, found the person, and arrested them.
- 18:28Speaker 1: That was quick.
- 18:28Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because it's digital. Someone just typed up a
- 18:33Speaker 2: note and dropped it off at the station, news station
- 18:36Speaker 2: and police station. The old school was like, where did
- 18:39Speaker 2: this paper come from? Okay? But then what typewriter was used?
- 18:43Speaker 2: Were the typewriter?
- 18:44Speaker 1: Okay? But here's my question. If that person was so
- 18:46Speaker 1: easily found. Then the person who sent the ransom note
- 18:50Speaker 1: to TMZ the one that they're saying is legitimate that
- 18:52Speaker 1: they're taking seriously. They haven't arrested anyone connected with that.
- 18:55Speaker 2: That means because the fake one is by some sloppy
- 18:59Speaker 2: meth head trying to get a few bucks. He's trying
- 19:01Speaker 2: to get some bed. The one is a little bit
- 19:02Speaker 2: more thought out.
- 19:04Speaker 1: Is the actual abductor, is what we would conclude at
- 19:07Speaker 1: this point, the FBI agent said, in regards to the
- 19:10Speaker 1: ransom note, the one that went to the media is
- 19:13Speaker 1: the one we're currently investigating and working on. The impostor
- 19:16Speaker 1: that I talked about, where an arrest was made early
- 19:18Speaker 1: this morning, that there will be more information. We believe
- 19:21Speaker 1: there is no evidence to connect this to Nancy's case.
- 19:25Speaker 1: It was someone that was trying to profit from it,
- 19:27Speaker 1: a total impostor. As the search moves into its fifth day,
- 19:31Speaker 1: concern for Guthrie's health continues to intensify. The Pima County
- 19:35Speaker 1: sheriff reiterated at the press conference that there are no
- 19:38Speaker 1: suspects and no persons of interest at this time. You know,
- 19:42Speaker 1: that is what they said publicly on the record. However,
- 19:45Speaker 1: I don't know. If you listen to Ashley Banfield, she
- 19:48Speaker 1: did do. She came out publicly and said that the
- 19:52Speaker 1: son in law was a person of interest, and I
- 19:55Speaker 1: don't think she's recanted that at all, but.
- 19:57Speaker 2: That she's basing on what she's coming across. Well, I
- 20:01Speaker 2: I mean, that's not an officially announced anything, right.
- 20:04Speaker 1: No, it's not officially announced by the police. It's officially
- 20:06Speaker 1: announced by Ashley Banfield. But I'm saying she's well connected
- 20:11Speaker 1: in the area of crime, true crime, cops, attorneys, the whole,
- 20:16Speaker 1: all the inside information. So the fact that she came
- 20:18Speaker 1: forward and said that, I don't know, we shall see.
- 20:21Speaker 2: Because she's also the one that said it's camera's not camera?
- 20:25Speaker 1: What does that mean?
- 20:27Speaker 2: Oh, when you put an S on the end of
- 20:29Speaker 2: a noun, it's plural.
- 20:30Speaker 1: No, I understand, but I don't know what you're What
- 20:31Speaker 1: is that meaning?
- 20:32Speaker 2: More than one camera was taken from the property and disabled.
- 20:36Speaker 2: That's what she says. Her source said, okay, And she
- 20:39Speaker 2: also says that her source, meaning it's not public, it's
- 20:42Speaker 2: just her right. But the back door was left open
- 20:45Speaker 2: right when they arrived, meaning there was a break in
- 20:48Speaker 2: on one door, presumably the front door and then the
- 20:50Speaker 2: back door was left open and there's blood on the
- 20:53Speaker 2: front door or the front area, the front porch, and
- 20:55Speaker 2: she doesn't she didn't hear whether there was or was
- 20:59Speaker 2: not blood elsewhere or something like that. So you know,
- 21:02Speaker 2: who knows. Time will tell.
- 21:04Speaker 1: Well, we will stay connected very closely to the story,
- 21:08Speaker 1: and we really pray and hope that that Nancy is okay.
- 21:13Speaker 1: I feel all wold.
- 21:14Speaker 2: It's been I mean realistically it's been five days. Yeah,
- 21:18Speaker 2: and her medication they say it is crucial daily.
- 21:22Speaker 1: And also if she was connected to age.
- 21:25Speaker 2: And pacemaker, and I've seen pictures of her, she's not
- 21:28Speaker 2: physically fit to you know, be roughed up.
- 21:33Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we will continue to follow the story and
- 21:36Speaker 1: let you know what comes up next on this. So
- 21:38Speaker 1: thanks for listening, guys, We appreciate you.
- 21:40Speaker 2: Hopefully, we just had one more update and they caught him, well,
- 21:42Speaker 2: that found her.
- 21:43Speaker 1: That would be we're done, amazing. We would hope, we
- 21:46Speaker 1: would hope and pray for a happy ending that they
- 21:49Speaker 1: figure out who this is, they find Nancy and they
- 21:51Speaker 1: bring her home safely and she recovers.
- 21:54Speaker 2: That's what we'll hope for, and they throw them in
- 21:56Speaker 2: a jail cell to rock.
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