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#25 | Isaac Sanchez · Corpus Christi Originals Podcast

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  SPEAKER_02: What's going on y'all?
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  SPEAKER_02: It's Ucilari Hernandez here.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is the Corpus Christi Originals podcast.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, we're live.
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  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to the show, Isaac.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thanks, man.
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  SPEAKER_02: Glad to be here.
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  SPEAKER_02: Awesome, man.
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  SPEAKER_02: So uh so I was introduced to you through your friend John.
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  SPEAKER_02: John John, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and he was like, uh you gotta get Isaac on the on the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_02: I said, all right, let's get him on.
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  unknown: That's it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Gee, that's dope.
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  SPEAKER_00: Shouts to John John.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's uh definitely an inspiration of mine for sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's cool.
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  SPEAKER_02: So so what do you do?
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  SPEAKER_02: What do you do in the city?
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  SPEAKER_02: What would you like to share rout the bat?
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh right off the bat.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, um, I'm just a local, uh, local, local artist, uh, local breakdancer or b-boy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh been doing that for about uh between 10 to 12 years, give or take.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh, and then I work for a local company here in town.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I uh I say I always like to say I work full-time, and then I'm a part-time artist.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's kind of nice.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's good.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you do do you do part-time mostly?
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, why do you do them part-time mostly?
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  SPEAKER_00: I I coach part-time uh for a program called uh CC Street Nets, and so that's kind of like the part-time aspect of it, and then uh and then like my hobby is is breaking.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I will, you know, when I have time outside of work, you know, I'm mature enough to know that I gotta pay bills and I gotta I gotta take care of the family.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_00: But any every time I have like it's dedicated to uh to just progressing and breaking or you know, working with the class or just traveling and competing when I can, just being being a part of it, really.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: So, but work and life come first, and you know, well, God comes first for sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but you know, God, work, family, all that good stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: So artists is uh I get it's when uh when I have the opportunities to do it.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's cool.
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  SPEAKER_02: I find I find it interesting that we have we have hobbies, but then we have our day jobs.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_02: It's kind of like it's kind of like part of growing up, I guess you could say, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I I know a lot of people who and myself early on, like it's hard to find that balance, and that was one of the things early on that I struggle with.
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  SPEAKER_00: But breaking is uh has played a huge part in like in finding that balance.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was fortunate enough early on to find some uh some people who are now my friends, but when I first started uh or when I first got into the the breaking scene in Texas, I I heard of these these B-boys that were like like uh like writers or like uh professors or doctors, and those guys kind of like or if I had never discovered them, no telling what would have happened.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um but they were real big on like not on finding that balance, like be a good college student and and be a good b-boy, be a good husband and be a good b-boy, go and be a professional in your work and be a b-boy, like having that balance.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if I had never heard them say that early on, I I might have well, I might as well have like just been one of those guys who sells everything they had and and tried to pursue something that may or may not have worked, which is fine.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's cool to do that, and it takes a certain kind of person to do that, but um I just I can't say it would have I've seen those, I've seen those in well and I've seen them not in well.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is kind of just the it seemed to be the better option for me.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for sure, man.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's it provides it definitely provides a lot of stability for our families too, you know.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like if we're married and if we have kids, uh that stability of having a like a day job or whatever, uh it's just it's not only for us, it's for them, you know what I mean?
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_02: It's like a selfless thing in a in a sense, I think.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh that's all yeah, and my brother and I, we were we were real big on that early on.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I lived uh with my brother Jacob Murphy when uh I moved in when I got back from basic training for the army when I was about 21, 22.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was right around that time that I kind of discovered these inspirations.
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  SPEAKER_00: So about 20, about 20 years old, uh after being on my own for some time and finding them, and then my brother kind of we kind of discovered that together.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was uh that was kind of really where like the change kind of happened in our lives.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're like, okay, we we can be we can be professionals in whatever we're pursuing and do both.
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  SPEAKER_00: It just it requires more work.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I believe that like I guarantee if I had gone all the other direction, where just pursuing art the full time, I I probably never would have met my wife, or I wouldn't have uh, you know, gotten to do some of the things I've gotten to do with work.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um and so it definitely I don't know, helped educate me, so to speak, for lack of a better word.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_02: Uh that's cool, man.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome, bro.
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  SPEAKER_02: So wow, so I'm looking at your Instagram profile.
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  SPEAKER_02: It says Texas B-Boy, like for some people don't know what a b boy is or what b-boy means.
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  SPEAKER_02: Can you explain maybe what that is?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh b-boy is a term that came out of uh New York or the Bronx back in the 70s uh by a DJ named Cole Herc.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, because he noticed that back in the 70s, they'd have these big block parties out in New York, and they would uh they everybody would come and dance.
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  SPEAKER_00: He noticed that there was this group of people who would who would dance on the breaks, uh the break portion of the song.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh we call it like if you're your DJ, the one.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um and he so what he did was he started like customizing these tracks with the systems that they had back then or mixing them to where there was more breaks, so more of those people were going down and they would do things like foot what we nowadays call footwork.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um and he uh his cohort gave actually gave the those people the name B boys, like because they danced on the or be girls because they danced on the break.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_00: So that's really where the term came from.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh but uh the most commonly used term is is break dancer, I guess.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wow, that's so awesome.
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  SPEAKER_02: So so that's the so it I guess would you say it originated then in the hip-hop culture?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Breaking is one of the original four elements of hip-hop.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wow, that's so that's cool.
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  SPEAKER_02: So there's four elements.
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  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know that.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
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  SPEAKER_02: I thought it was just music, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, man, yeah, there's uh DJing, graffiti, mcing, and b-boying.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, some people over the years have tried to add more, but as far as the original four elements, it's uh it's those four.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, wow, that's cool, man.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's good to know.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, so so b-boy.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I guess the dancing have has changed since then, obviously.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and then you had like maybe different branches of of b-boin, you know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_02: It is do you do so?
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  SPEAKER_02: How does that work?
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you stick to like one traditional thing or do you branch off?
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what do you what happens there?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um right now, it's kind of hard, uh, kind of a broad question.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's uh it has advanced in the sense that it's uh in in one many different ways, but the dance itself is um it has a foundation uh that make it breakdancing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And anything else, there there is categories now for those.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like uh my brother was what we call an all-styles dancer.
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  SPEAKER_00: So any it would be having multiple foundations of different styles would would be uh what we call an all-styles dancer.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_00: But as far as like breaking itself or b-boying and b-girling, there's a set foundation that goes into it that make that makes it breaking.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anything else, there's a category for it now, if that if that answers the question.
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  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, that's cool, man.
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  SPEAKER_02: So there's like basics of of breakdancing.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I guess it's like stance, posture, or or stuff like that, or what do you call it?
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it would be uh top rock, which we start up top.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we start dancing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh top rock rocking comes from New York.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was a that was a style of dance back in the 70s.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh so top rocking, footwork, and then uh freeze variations would um are the three biggest foundations.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now there's other ones that as you progress, you you start laying more foundations that they get a little bit more technical.
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  SPEAKER_02: Crazy.
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  SPEAKER_02: And and is the music that y'all that you break to, is it is it a certain tempo, or is it a different types of tempo?
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  SPEAKER_00: There's different tempos with within it, um, and there's different genres within the breaking, uh, within the breaking music itself.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have more of like uh a funk-based, uh, old school like 70s, like uh James Brown kind of feel, where it's like real bass heavy, Oriol, uh all the way up to, I mean, now there's a lot of like electro kind of not inspired themes, or like uh what would you synthesizer, I guess.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then you have like the my favorite, like the boom bap, like 90s, early 2000s kind of uh rap uh that you know people like like Rock Kim and uh Eric B and um um there's a ton of other other names that I mean Wu Tang uh genres like that that have their we would consider you know raking music.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's very diverse, uh, which is is pretty cool.
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  SPEAKER_02: Damn, that's uh that's awesome, dude.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_02: Uh okay, cool.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's that's the hip-hop, that's the music style.
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  SPEAKER_02: So Texas B-boy, that's that's like specific.
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  SPEAKER_02: So what's the difference?
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_02: So what so we want to speak on that a little bit?
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  SPEAKER_00: Texas B-boys, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't I don't know if a lot of people know, but here in Texas, we literally, we literally have the best b-boys and b girls in the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like there's there's New York in the United States alone.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: There's I'm sorry.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: Uh there's New York, California, Texas.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_00: Well, now Florida.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: So Florida's got a pretty good scene too.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_00: But in Texas, those are those are gonna be the the four states that that kind of have the best.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, and there's I say that, but there's places like Arizona, Colorado, they got they got world champs too.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: But as far as like overall scenes where the majority of our breaker, our B boys here B girls here are at a high competitive level, I would say Texas has the best in not only the world but in the US.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, not only the US, but in the world as well, like collectively.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, that's awesome.
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  SPEAKER_00: So competitive here.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, has it been like that long?
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah, man.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: So in the early 2000s, Texas kind of started blowing up, or uh in the late 90s, early 2000s, this the cities like Houston and Dallas and um man, who was it?
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's Houston, Dallas, really, and then Austin.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: Uh um, and I'm people I hope people don't get mad at my friends, but like the bigger cities started producing these crews that were that started complain competing in places like um California or they start or were really venturing all over the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um and it just it it put Texas on notice.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_00: So when um yeah, I mean the the cameras started coming out here a little bit more and and Texas really blew up around that era.
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  SPEAKER_00: A lot of us uh fans of it call like that early 90s to mid-2000s generation, like the golden era of breaking, and Texas was at the forefront of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, inspiring guys across the world because that was when uh the internet was like kind of blowing up.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_00: Then this is before my time.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just I'm a I'm a fan, so kind of a nerd.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it's it it we've had a reputation here for a really long time.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: So I put that in there, uh just because I'm I'm proud to be from Texas in general, but to be a Texas B-boy, there's a it it comes with a little bit of expectation, you know.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: If I go to another place from Texas, they're they're looking to see, they expect a certain level, even at the amateur level, which is what I consider myself at.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, man, they set somebody set the standard really early.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man, there's a lot of big names that people all over the world, I mean, uh, recognize.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: And even now, some of the younger guys that are are coming up, there's they're getting those same opportunities because of that generation.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_02: So I and it's like nowadays they can learn like like off of YouTube, I guess you can say, you know what I mean?
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_02: And and that's where you're oh, I guess we can introduce like your coach for CC Street Dance.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_02: How long is that how long have you been a coach out here, or what's going on there?
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  SPEAKER_00: So my brother Jacob, he uh he started, man, he's always had a heart for teaching, and I can't really talk about the class because uh without without giving him a shout-out.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, since I've known him, and this is brother in Christ, by the way.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: I say brother because I our kids don't know that that's uh that's Uncle Murph or Uncle Isaac.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: So um you know, like it's just yeah, or that's uh my dad's friend, like they know us as Uncle Isaac or Uncle Murph.
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  SPEAKER_00: So uh but my brother Jacob, he uh he's always had a heart for teaching, even before he he really should have been teaching, to be honest.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love you, Jacob.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was uh he's always had a heart for it.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_00: And over the years, when we were living together, we would go out to like people's garages or like Cole Park, and we would teach he would teach for free.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I would kind of take his son who was little at the time off to the side and I would teach him some basics.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: And Jacob would, even though he's an all-styles dancer, breaking has a really solid foundation, a very um, very uh, yeah, it's it's probably one of the more out of the street dances, the more it has the one of the more solid foundations, so it's easier to teach early on.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot more verbiage and things like that um that that make it better to teach.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so he would teach these kids at the park, and then um after a few years of doing that, he pitched the idea to Oso Recreation Center here in Corpus.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: They bought the idea, and um, that was in 2016, and I came on as an assistant coach, just almost like a volunteer, just to support my bro.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_00: And and that's being in the culture for as long as I had, even at that point, that's just what we do.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like you give back when you can, and I wasn't I didn't have a whole lot of involvement other than showing up on Tuesdays and Thursdays and helping the kids out, and then fast forward till uh I guess right before COVID, I was getting ready to kind of walk away from the class, and um and I ended up staying.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and luckily I did because I my brother's uh like I said, we believe in being a professional on and off the dance floor, and he got a promotion at work and to better his career and was gonna have to give up the class.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_00: And my heart was kind of leading me to uh to take over and or start my own um at another rec center.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: And uh yeah, he called me one night and was like, hey man, I got some bad news.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Okay, well, I wanted to talk to you about something too.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: And he was like, Well, I gotta give up the class.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Oh, perfect, like I'll take it.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: He was like, What?
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Yeah, I was gonna call you and ask if I could fly uh if I could keep the umbrella street dance and just go open up down the street at another rec center.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, but now I don't have to, like you're leaving, so uh transfer everything into my name and see you, buddy.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: Let me know when you want to come and help out.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, man, that's cool, bro.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so are you in so are you you're in two places or you're in one place or we're in one place right now.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: So August 1st, we'll be transitioning uh to the Lindale Recreation Center.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um we were at Oso for about eight years, and we always kind of had our eye on Lindale.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's a little bit more suited for for breakdancing, and it's it's got a little bit more uh to offer for dancers.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's the same company.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: We we work with CC Park Center and facilities.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh hopefully the goal is to open uh Oso back up by the end of the year and have Jacob run that, and I'll be running Lindale, but time time will tell.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for sure.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_02: I um my brother and I went to Lindale when we were younger too, man.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's it seems to be a good place.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_02: Uh that's awesome.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's cool, man.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so at Lindell, so you work with the city on that, like and and you chair okay, so you charge you charge a rate, right?
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_02: Do you charge a rate, or how does that work?
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_00: The city, uh, one good thing about partnering with the city is they get to handle a lot of the business aspects, which isn't uh like I Jacob and I very well could.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: We're managers by trait, but it gives us a little bit of freedom to not have to worry about that.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: And so they they charge a flat rate monthly.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we don't have to be the bad guys and say, hey, we're charging um this rate, you know, or whatever for the kids.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's the city gets to do that, and then uh we're we're I guess the class is funded through the city, like yeah.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_02: Cool.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_02: So uh well that's pretty cool, man.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it seems like with the city, like you can definitely get recommendations as far as like pushing kids that way, you know, if they're interested in it.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're very they're very helpful when it comes to like getting the word out or giving us opportunities to take the kids to perform, uh, or just giving us gigs that connect us with the city.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: So they they've been very helpful over the years.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: That's there's a reason we didn't really have a early desire to venture off and do our own thing, like a lot of people try to do.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's difficult, it's difficult, man.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_02: Like uh money-wise, like get in a place, and then it's very difficult uh to start out.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, but once you get the ball rolling, you know, it seems like it rolls pretty good.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_02: It's awesome, man.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so you have that class, and and and we find you at CC underscore street dance, right?
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_02: On on Instagram.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Facebook, yeah, and the Instagram, it hasn't been updated in a while.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: I need uh, I'm in the process of of giving it a facelift.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, being a single parent coach, no, I'm just kidding.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but uh it's uh I'm still getting getting the feel for all the the social media, but the Facebook is pretty up to date, and that's kind of the best place to find that.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: And like so we can teach um foundational breakdancing to the kids.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: That's uh that's the way to keep it going.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: Every throughout our travels, like that is uh every every OG or every b-boy in a scene or in a city that has a big scene, they always say start with the kids.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and that's kind of what we're doing and continuing that tradition to to get uh introduce the the youth to it.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_02: Cool.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_02: So is that so I guess that's the way to spread the culture?
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_02: Is that what is that why y'all do that?
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you basically grow the idea is that you grow you grow the scene, you know, from scratch.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: You get the kids into it, they get their friends into it, you know, um, you you get the kids into it, they grow up doing it, you continue cultivating them as they they progress.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then you know they'll they'll bring their friends in or they'll spread the word or more kids will come and you just play an active role in getting the the youth involved because although like you can start this at any age, we've had we've had uh parents of kids like do the classes stuff like that.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: The idea is that it is typically targeted for youth, you know, and uh they're the ones that that help uh that will keep the scene going, but having kids it interested in it over the years.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's cool, man.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_02: Dude, that's awesome.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_02: That's pretty cool what you're doing.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, man, that's awesome.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: So you personally uh you you like to travel or what's what's going on with you like outside of uh traveling was a dream come true, like uh a cool aspect about or my every every b-boy has a cool story, you know, and I I don't think mine's any better or any worse than anybody else's, but me personally, um as far as hobbies go, uh I listened to your podcast with that, I believe his name is Eric Franco, the okay, yeah.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like there was a lot of similarities in the in that in his his starting where you're there's like a rebel spirit that I I could relate to with him, like where it's like you don't want to settle for the norm, like you don't and but your parents and like life is kind of coming at you too.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: And so when I was when I was 18, I my mom told me I had to move out, and it was kind of one of those things.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: I back then BMX was like gonna be my ticket, right?
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like BMX was gonna be it.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: And uh that year in high school, I saw the America's Best Adams crew was was popular of season two with and uh Mike Murder from Super Crew, uh breakdance crew from Vegas, which I've been fortunate enough to meet some of them, and one of my homies is in that crew, so it's kind of come full circle.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um but Mike Murta, he was like, he on an interview is like, man, we've just been traveling around the world breakdancing for the last 10 years, and that kind of it didn't change everything right away, but it it left something in the back of my head where I was like, okay, this is gonna sound stupid, but this is kind of where I relate to like Eric.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's like it's like I'm like, okay, if BMX doesn't work, because I know my the time's ticking with my mom and my family and the lack of support that I have back home.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: And uh if BMX doesn't work, breakdancing.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just gonna go and start learning.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I I did a little bit when I was a kid, but nowhere near like what it would take.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: And I there was no scene here, so maybe if I did have a Corpus Christi 3 dance class to go to, I could have been humbled a lot earlier, you know, and like that's actually a lot harder than I thought it was gonna be.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you see that these kids come into classes and they're like, Oh, I'm not, I might be the best dancer at school, but I'm not here, and that's kind of how it was then.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I had that realization later, but he said that, and that was in the back of my head.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I always wanted to travel, but being like uh a kid and not and being a naive eight teenager or youth, like the only people I ever saw travel was my cousins in the military, was um was Man, like, or sports athletes, you know what I mean?
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like, none of like my family, they were very middle class, but we might go to San Antonio or Dallas from time to time.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: But uh maybe like uh we save up when we go to California for a cousin's wedding or something, but yeah, that was like once in every 10, 20 years kind of deal.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: And so it wasn't common.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I didn't know, I thought you had to be like, okay, you gotta be a professional.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and for me, like the thought was never I'll just go get a good job and and travel.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I didn't even yeah, like, oh my god, I have to join the military if I want to travel, or I gotta be good at sports or you know, extreme sports.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: And BMX felt through senior year, it didn't just didn't work out.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I didn't like like Eric, I didn't have the time to be able to dedicate that I needed to.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: And right around that time, I found those inspirations with breaking.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, all right, well, I'm just gonna dive into this.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_00: At least one, it's free for now.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: I can do it at my apartment or I can do it at the park.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and I'll just work and um and I'll work and I'll practice when I can.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: And for between 19 and 18 and 20, breaking was like the only positive thing that I had.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, kind of getting off track, but I say that because those foundational years where it just you it doesn't look like things are ever gonna get better.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: It was it was a it was a like I said, the only positive thing that I had.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I was still kind of holding on to that that goal that this could get me to travel, right?
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm working like I'm a bus boy, and I got some crappy friends that I'm living with, and things are just not going well.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: But then I discovered those inspirations that were like, yo, be a professional, be do both, work harder, you know.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: And they were they were they were speaking these things to to to my imagination, and I was like, and they made it possible.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_00: And so I did that.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like I I started better in my life.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_00: I joined the military, uh, the army, national guard.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: I uh I started reading books, I started uh, you know, just improving myself.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: I got I came back to the Lord, praise God.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um that's the the biggest, the best thing I ever did, by the way.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: Breaking breaking will always breaking and everything else will always come second to my relationship with with Christ.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um but I started, you know, those inspirations definitely helped um achieve some personal goals, you know.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: And they were like, it was putting me in the right way.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: Well, then just sticking through it and realizing, okay, like this is uh I found breaking the culture, and I found that like because here in Corpus it was very club-based.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um it was very club based, and nobody was really traveling and competing.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: When I discovered the competition side of things, I was like, yo, this is this is it.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_00: I want to be a part of that.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like all the heavy, I discovered the Texas that was when that was when I discovered Texas had the best in the world up until about 20 years old.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: I had no idea.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I went to my first competition in San Antonio, and I was like, like, I don't know, the scaredest I've ever been, because ever there was like one or two B-boys here in Corpus that were pretty good at at a good level, and but everybody else was just dudes at the club, just like you know, like former that are still enjoying it, and nothing wrong with that.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like, but the level of competition was like everybody was good out there, and that was really what what introduced me to the the scene that I needed to be in to make those dreams come true, you know what I mean?
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like the the the competition scene that Mike Murder was talking about a few years prior, and it uh that was kind of where it kind of took off.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: And then I discovered I had a crewmate who was uh uh was traveling, and I just had to bug him enough and prove that I was kind of you know serious about it to get him to take me.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I've been fortunate enough to to travel uh quite a bit, you know.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I've been to California and competed out there multiple times.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: I've been um pretty much everywhere west, like you know, Seattle, uh Colorado, Arizona, uh New Mexico a handful of times, um Nevada.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I haven't really been anywhere east yet, but that's it's coming.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's coming.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, man, it was it was really a combination of all that, finding the right inspirations and and uh and and that rebel spirit, like that Eric said where it's like, yo, I don't just want to work a nine to five.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and don't just want to do that, and that's fine.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: And I have cousins and family that do that, and and I work a nine to five now, but right back then, but man, I want to get out, I want to compete against, even if I'm getting smoked, like I want to compete against the best, like not I want to go out and have these experiences that you know I'm never I'm not gonna forget, and that's kind of been a huge blessing being able to do that.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_02: So dude, that's a man, that's an awesome journey.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_02: I like how you keep we keep referring to what Eric was saying, man.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's pretty cool that that people can relate to that, you know.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, because I'm not that type of person either.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like I'm not looking for that eight to five, 40-year job.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said, there are 40 years.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_02: Well, there's nothing wrong with that.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_02: There's just that's people do that, they do that, that's fine.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_02: It's just like my person, my personal personality is not like that.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm weird, I'm different, I'm socially awkward.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like difficult for me to find a job where I can be there, you know what I mean, and just kind of kind of be myself, I guess.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_02: What you can what you say, what I can say, you know.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_02: And I was in music a lot, and I and I even thought, like, okay, the band's gonna take me somewhere, like in high school, you know what I mean.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_02: That was my dream, that was what I wanted to do.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_02: But then, like, you get it like like you said, like a dose of reality, like, okay, this is I I need a backup plan, I need to do something, you know.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_02: Because like Eric is like he's like what a firefighter or something that was like his yeah, and I freaked out on it.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, for real.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_02: That's cool though.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's yeah, it's cool though.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's like his uh like his best backup plan or something.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_02: That's pretty cool, man.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, dude.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: I was in the army, I was in the army national guard too, and that was kind of like similar thing.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I just uh I was army infantry, I never deployed.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: I uh I mean that's a whole nother converse, that's a whole nother podcast, but uh I did I I lived the weekend warrior life, but like I'd literally go from like training in the field like one weekend in uh in San Antonio, uh learning like shooting machine guns on the weekends, and then I'd come back and I'd have a hat just like yours, like backwards, and I'm in a you know, this is my my Sunday gear right here, and I'm like flying out to California or wherever to go compete.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's just two different people would be like, You're in the military, or I've had to happen recently, you're a veteran?
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, Yeah, why like no reason?
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, okay.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's cool, man.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's like you can't have you can't have that side gig where you're doing something that people don't know.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_02: Because I tell people like at work, I'm a truck driver, bro.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_02: And they're like, Yeah, I drive I'm a truck driver of haul natural gas, like liquid, like propane and butane and stuff like that.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, cool.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, I tell people like my side stuff, they're like, What really?
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, Yeah, that's what I do.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: Part of me likes it, like I like the like unless you know me, know me, like you probably wouldn't know.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I was in the military, or or the people in the military had no idea, like some of them, my close friends did, because I had no choice.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: They'd be like, Well, uh, come to come come hang out next weekend.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I can't, like, I'm I'm going out to wherever to go convene here, or hey man, can I come crash at your couch?
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_00: There's a competition like down the street from you, you know.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, a lot of people never would have guessed.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I always like that like double life.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, like yeah, certain people know, certain people don't.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I even now I have people like I don't tell certain things to certain groups, and then they find out and they're like, and I have to have that like, oh, I'm sorry, I forgot to tell you.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh same thing, like we were talking with Eric on the podcast, and he and he was uh like sushi photography or something, and that guy didn't know that he owned only wolves, and then Eric, same thing, like yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_02: Was like, how come he didn't tell me?
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_02: And he's like, Well, I'm not gonna be over here like giving my card out and stuff like that.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, like at work, like sometimes I have to wear a suit and tie, and then uh and then somebody like says something about like breaking, and they're like, Hey man, you're like the people who know me, and they're like the people I've been around this whole time, professional, just like you know, uh, to whom it may concern type emails, and you know, and they're like breakdancing.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, Oh yeah, I just have a hobby, like it's just my side thing, like yeah, and then they hear they hear you talk about it for like an hour, they're like, Really?
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's just your hobby, you know.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_02: That's funny, man.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_02: That's cool, right?
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so yeah, people listening, check them out.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_02: Isaac underscore cruise underscore Sanchez on Instagram.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_02: That's pretty cool, man.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_02: Awesome, dude.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_02: Is there anything else you'd like to share?
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: I know we've been talking for about 30 minutes or so.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, let me see, man.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: Cover where I got started, uh, where I'm at with the class.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um man, I just the local, let me ask you this.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like, man, I I want to say a shout out to like the local artist scene.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like, this is one of the reasons I wanted to connect with with local artists or local uh people like mind, like like-minded people.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like is breaking has been so dead here for a long time, or the casts that are doing it, they just it's it they keep it kind of underground, or um, there's no connection to the the local art community.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_00: And my thing is like, yo, like let's let's build Corpus Christy Street Dance.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_00: We're here, like we've we've got my brother and I got like 10, 12 years again in the game, which is nothing compared to our some of the OGs, but like I'm proud to be from Corpus, I'm proud to be a local.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_00: I want to make more of an or an effort to be more involved in the local community.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um people like I look I love seeing like like what you're doing with uh Corpus Christi originals, uh the homies at Produce, people like John John, uh who are just contributing.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_00: And man, shouts to the graffiti heads here in Corpus.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like when I was when I was in those days, like living with my brother, where before kids and wives, and and it really was just work and breaking, and now there's a whole lot of other things.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um I would longboard downtown every Saturday day.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_00: And this is right after the club scene in Corpus died, like stingers and all those places went away, and it was a freaking ghost town, dude.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I have pictures on my phone that like the old like Ritz Theater, like everything is just shut down.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_00: It looks, it looks it like I said, ghost town.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_00: I could the best way I could describe it, and it was cool, but I would go out to these places and I'd go out to like Albuquerque, New Mexico, it's my home away from home, or um Dallas or Austin, and I'd see their their downtown scene and the culture and the art and the artist just thriving.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_00: And the graffiti heads here in Corpus have like taken over and they've beautified like downtown Corpus.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_00: I I just had a homie we brought down named Dang from uh from the brothers, a really big crew here in Texas, and I was able to to to give him a tour downtown, and I was like, yo, the homie Dask uh painted that, yo, the homie Adrian painted that over there, yo, uh my buddy Matt Clark, he's the manager of uh of this coffee shop.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like, let me go get you some food and some some gross, like some good local coffee.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_00: And and I was telling him, like, this eight to ten years ago, this place was dead.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like there was nothing here.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_00: Uh places like the was it Dokkyo and and Kiel, and he's I went to high school with him.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's so it makes me still proud to see that change, you know.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a little bit older and and my kid gets to grow up with that as corpus, it like corp that kind of corpus.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I grew up in the 90s where we didn't have a skate park here until I was already too old to enjoy it, you know.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so the things going on in the city, like it's it's huge.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_00: The graffiti heads, the the music, like I there's some rappers here that are making names for themselves.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_00: My goal with Breaking is to put us in those in those conversations.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_00: So when people come on, they're like, yo, my kid just got, I had to go pick up my kid from CC Street Gats.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like, uh, or I got we're hitting up the artwork, like, you know, the the the hump the he's gonna go cypher with his friends.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like those are the kind of conversations we're trying to be in.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: And uh dude, I just I just want to thank you for the opportunity to to get to say all this.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, nope a lot of people have no idea about all the stuff we've done and that we've been here, but yeah, man, we've been here and uh we want to help cultivate you know the city.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, yeah, it's good to hear, man.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I'm glad that this is a platform where where we can spread that word, man.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, for sure.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_02: For sure.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um glad and happy that that that it's out there.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_02: And to be honest, man, when I started the the clothing brand before I started the podcast, I was amazed at how many people wanted to represent the city, you know.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, because I was one of those guys, like, ah, forget Corpus, it's trash, and there's nothing to do here, or whatever.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't been either, you know.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, I haven't been either.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, dude, now I see your I see Corpitos everywhere, man.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: I would I swear I picked up like hats uh from you before I went to like uh Albuquerque or like out of state because I wanted to rep.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_00: Do you cool you the original old English one that was solid black, like the Compton one?
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I have that at home.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_00: I have a picture in Albuquerque, one of the road trips we took.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, me and my brother went out to Albuquerque, we did a road trip from uh Albuquerque and stopped like in El Paso, jammed at the homies.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we went out to Albuquerque, we went up to Santa Fe, Las Cruz, just did the the the New Mexico tour, went out to Phoenix, Arizona, and and in all a bunch of pictures, I'm wearing that hat.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_00: I gotta find you with cool, man.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome, bro.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I think uh produce they do the corpus hat.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I do the Corpitos hat.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't want to do the Corpus hat because I knew he was doing it, so I didn't want I just you know let him sell them.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_02: That's cool, that's fine with me.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_02: So that's another thing, too.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I know there's other brands out here, and I and I want to work together with them.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_02: I don't really don't want to be like against them either, you know what I mean?
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_02: Because I'm part of the city just like they are, you know what I mean?
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_02: And my brand is is a little bit different than some than like made in corpus christi or crooked Christie, you know.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_02: There's still brands.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_02: There's how did you get into that?
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_02: I I was uh kind of looking for different to be honest, I was looking for different ways like to make a stream of income, uh, along with the truck driving, because I had some money to put somewhere to make another stream of income.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_02: So that's I came upon like doing a brand, you know, and then and then specifically for the city, that's where I landed to to want to to to hopefully it would be successful, you know.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_02: And then like I said, when I started the brand, it was like, oh shoot, there are some people that want to represent the city and that do like the brand, and that's where that's where it became for successful for me, you know.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but that's where it started, to be honest.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I I had no like when I wanted to start a brand, it didn't start like, oh, let me do one for the city.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was it was like, how can I make a successful brand?
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_02: And I was thinking of bigger brands like for the United States, but then I was just like, okay, I need to start small, start with my city, see if I can create one that way.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and that's that's honestly where it started, to be honest.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and just the the journey has been cool because, like I said, I'm meeting people like you uh in the city, and it makes me and it helps it's kind of an encouragement for me to want to do it more because I'm not the only one, you know.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um at points because I know I have like what do you mean, like by myself?
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, where you're like you're like, man, am I the only like am I the only one like here in this this area or this niche?
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um uh no, I mean, no, because I I know that there's like if there's one niche, there's gonna be more than one people, you know what I mean, because uh the every niche can be different, you know what I mean?
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_02: Like, like my brand has like skulls, ogla English letters and stuff like that.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's another brand called Made in Corpus Christi, and they they don't have like skulls in English, it's more like uh more like nicer.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know how to explain it, but it's so what I'm saying is there you can still have two brands in one city to to still work.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like you there can be your your dance company and there could be another dance company, you know what I mean, in the same city.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_00: We've had we've had that, like our friends.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_00: Uh a lot of the coaches early on that came on with Jacob, a lot of them ventured off and and made their own class.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: And we we've we did gigs with them, like it was it was never bright when a lot of those places faded, or there's there's just been time seasons where uh I felt excluded from my own community, and it's like man, yeah, and that's not a knock on anybody, it's just there's there's uh what do you for lack of a better word, like uh factions, I guess, uh of it.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_00: And you're like, like, man, I'm just trying to bring some attention down here.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_00: I've we've brought in famous b boys, and because of some politics, like nobody showed up, you know what I mean?
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_00: Things like that.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, it's all love now, you know.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's it's all love now, but there has been times where I'm like, I I've gone seasons where I haven't found people like you or people like you know, Eric, or some of the people you've had where there's that rebel spirit, like, yo, I want to do the nine to five, but I also want to do this.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, you know, has it been hard finding those kind of people or um not really, uh, especially like on Instagram because I market there a lot.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of people, a lot of people on Instagram that want to represent the city and do what they do.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_02: And those, and when I started looking for people for the podcast, that's where I started looking.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_02: So I found a lot of people with a similar spirit, I guess you could say, that are wanting to uplift the city.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and at the same time, there are those people that that are kind of like again, like not trying to help out.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know, look, I understand what you're saying, like like a competition in a sense, it's like competition to where they want to win, you know what I mean?
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_02: And and they're playing the wrong game with us, you know what I mean.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_02: The game that we're playing is to uplift everything all together and not just one person over the other, you know.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, so yeah, it's definitely good to find somebody that in this in that's like-minded in that sense, you know what I mean?
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so how'd you meet John John, if you don't mind me asking?
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_02: He he he messaged me on the brand on the Corpus Christi Originals page.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, everybody, man.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like everybody uh I was uh I was out in Dallas one time at a at a jam out there, and uh almost nobody like knew people from Corpus, like almost nobody in the scene like knew B boys from Corpus, and I was used to it.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_00: So this is like like seven, eight years ago.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_00: And uh this uh homie from Houston uh named uh B Girl, Baby Girl.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_00: Uh my wife knows that that's her name.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not calling her baby girl, okay?
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like you're married, happily married.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_00: Her name is B Girl, Baby Girl.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_00: So uh, but she's uh got one of the bigger like brands, uh hip hop brands in in Houston and Texas.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_00: So she does a lot of travel.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_00: She's a breaker, so she she knows uh where to go and where to set up and stuff like that.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_00: And uh she was she was there and she was asking me, she's like, Where y'all from with Corpus?
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I was after the jam.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_00: And she's like, Oh, cool.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know my boo, John John?
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, What the hell?
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like, right, I was like, How do you know John John?
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, Oh, he's my boo, this is nice.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_00: This is like eight years ago before he even met his wife, so I'm not trying to get him a trouble play.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, no, it was cool.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Yeah, like Houston, and I've gone to a handful of other cities, and they're like, Yo, tell John if you see John John tell him what's it what's up.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, what the f all right, that's okay.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's cool because you that's your community.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_02: That's your little that's your little community, man.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome, man.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so he so he found us on, yeah, he found us on corporate scripture, huh?
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_02: No, I was just he found out on corporate found us on corporate scripture originals, and he he was saying some nice stuff about you, and he was like, Yeah, because I thought he was interested in on being on the podcast because he was asking how he is, I'm sure he is.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_02: I asked him, he's like, No, I'm I'm actually uh asking for my my uh friend of mine that does and he was talking about you.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, Yeah, let's get him on.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_02: So glad you're here, man.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, thanks, man.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_00: And shouts to John John, man.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_00: That's uh man, what he was bringing to Corpus was like when he's he's got me like he's a little bit older, he's got like 10 years on me.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_00: But I just remember like the the events that he was doing, whether it was the sneaker stuff or um he always included all the elements of hip-hop the right way, you know, like he brought the right DJs, he brought the right um, he did it like right, like he brought the right music, he brought the right sneaker heads, yeah, he brought the right brands.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_00: It was all local, locally, you know, catered towards local culture.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: And um, and that group, I mean, I think he had Curse Collective or even like the homies from Public Zoo, like those guys were like the realness, and there wasn't, I remember thinking that there's not enough of those guys here, right?
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's kind of like the for me, like the goal locally is like to be a name like that where you know we're we're breaking is like that.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_00: But he he was I remember being like, I got I want to be like John John, like he's professional, he's in the military, like yeah, he's he's what he's what I want to be when I grow up, right?
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like it's like uh when we want people to we want it's like we have to do it, you know what I mean?
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's like it's almost like nobody, if nobody does it, then we have to do it, you know.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_02: We have to to spread that culture, like you're saying.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_02: Uh man, for sure, bro.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, shout out to John John.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I thought it was John John John.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_02: That's pretty cool.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_02: Pretty cool name.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_02: So how do we uh so how do we find you on Instagram, or how do we get uh in touch with you or say if we have a kid or something?
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you can find me uh at my Instagram.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_00: I believe it's Isaac underscore cruz underscore Sanchez.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's a picture of me breaking.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um and like you said, it says, you know, uh follower of Christ first and foremost, and then uh husband, father, b-boy, texas b-boy.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_00: Uh shops.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_00: And uh that's really like my my breaking, like that's my art gallery.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's my practice footage, that's my competitions, some of the traveling I do, um, some of the some of the behind the scenes jump stuff.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_00: My son, he's for it, and he's like, he's got some one-liners that are pretty funny that I'll highlight on there.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_00: Awesome, yeah.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then uh if you want the page, if you have anybody interested in uh uh joining the Corpus Christi Street Dance class, uh just the Facebook, Corpus CC underscore streetdance um is is where to find me.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_00: And if you want to follow me and look for some uh some dope memes on Facebook and some sarcastic sarcastic remarks, like uh find me on Facebook.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's uh I believe it's the same picture.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_00: So thanks for having me, bro.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, thanks for coming on, bro.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for coming on, man.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, it uh shout out.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, uh thanks to your family for backing you up, and I got a family too, and follower of Christ myself.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_02: I read the Bible a lot.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_00: Uh every day, every day, man.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_00: So we're not yeah, that's it.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_02: That's my uh that's my wiz, my true wisdom right there.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_02: And uh yeah, man, that's cool, bro.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_02: So thanks a lot.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_02: If nothing else, man, thanks for coming on.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_00: Let's leave, let's grab lunch sometime, man.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_00: Uh let's let's connect for sure.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_02: Sounds cool.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, sounds good, man.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's so uh thanks a lot.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_02: Have a good one.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_02: You too, brother.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_02: Peace.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay.