Latest / The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast / #129: Gill1918 presents Dwight Phillips "Long Jump Part 2" from Tampa Bay/USF Clinic
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- 0:27All right. And as the athlete becomes a
- 0:30little bit more competent, we move it back and we just want to
- 0:34constantly promote that frequency, putting it down.
- 0:38And and then I started integrating after they run A123
- 0:42take off at the end of the wickets.
- 0:44And that has really paid his dividends and helped the
- 0:47athletes. And initially I didn't think
- 0:49think that it would work. But, you know, as an athlete
- 0:52coach, we're always trying to experiment and figure out, you
- 0:58know, how do we defy human limits?
- 1:00And I think that this is something that's been very
- 1:03monumental in my coaching experience.
- 1:06And like coach said, he hates guessing.
- 1:09I do, too. And once you see something that
- 1:11works, you just have to ride with it.
- 1:16The fact the attack phase is where all your efforts goes into
- 1:20sprinting. Your body is already upright.
- 1:23Your eyes are focused on horizon.
- 1:25Don't look for the board, but you haven't yet began to to take
- 1:30off, run hard and lie on your feet while maintaining proper
- 1:34control sprinting technique and continue to accelerate through
- 1:39the board. I have to reiterate that we it's
- 1:42essential that you accelerate not to the board, but to through
- 1:48the board. Nobody cares if your athletes
- 1:51going to jump, do a be a hanger and he's going to take off and
- 1:55he's going to slow down at the board and he gets 50 feet in the
- 1:58air. But then he comes down and he
- 2:01acts like he's doing the high jump.
- 2:03You don't get any style points for how high you go in the long
- 2:08jump. So I just want to reinforce the
- 2:11objective is to bring as much speed as possible through the
- 2:17board. You're going to punch upon
- 2:19takeoff. You're going to drive that arm
- 2:21up. Your parabolic curve is already
- 2:24going to be set based off of how fast you are and how you drive
- 2:28up off of the board. That is how the parabolic curve
- 2:32is going to be set. But we want it to be if we're
- 2:35driving a Ferrari off of a Cliff, we don't want to drive
- 2:39that Ferrari 150 miles per hours and then the moment we get 1010
- 2:46feet away from the Cliff, going to put on the brakes.
- 2:48And that's what I see happen. It's so prevalent just across
- 2:53the board, and I think it's part part of the reason why we are
- 2:58suffering in the horizontal jumps in America today.
- 3:07If your ID executes the frequency phase properly,
- 3:11there's no need to teach the penultimate stride.
- 3:15I had probably 50 athletes that I can say that I was responsible
- 3:23for lowering their hips, sitting behind on the the penultimate
- 3:30because I was able to get away with it.
- 3:33It was something that I just in my earlier career, I just did
- 3:37not know how to correct because I wasn't sprinting properly.
- 3:44It wasn't until I started working with Coach Tom Talez and
- 3:48then Lauren Seagray where I figured out, OK, if I'm in the
- 3:53optimal position and I lower my center, I minimize lowering my
- 3:59center of mass from the penultimate to take off.
- 4:02I can really maximize my overall effort.
- 4:06So I have to say sprinting is fundamentally very important
- 4:12when we start to thinking about jumping those far elite jumps.
- 4:17Now you may have to make sure athlete is not influenced by the
- 4:20board. You have to maintain a constant
- 4:24arm stroke all the way through the board.
- 4:28And this is where it can be very tricky because I was always
- 4:33taught we want to have a perfect approach.
- 4:36We want to focus on the perfect approach.
- 4:39But many times when I started training myself as a
- 4:42professional athletes, I would put myself in very compromising
- 4:47situations because more times than none, my jumps were very
- 4:52rarely perfect. It was either I was too close or
- 4:57I was too far. So in every training segment, I
- 5:01would make sure that I do a quarter of my jumps too close,
- 5:051/4 of my jumps too far, so that I can learn how to manipulate in
- 5:09real time, how to jump when I'm faced with that adversity in the
- 5:13meets. Because there are so many
- 5:15variables that we have to deal with the wind, we have to deal
- 5:19with the adrenaline, we have to deal with just the nature of
- 5:24being a a competitor. But you have to be able to make
- 5:29adjustments in real time. So by me practicing that, when I
- 5:34got to the actual meet by practicing being imperfect, it
- 5:39really benefited me. And I, I attribute a lot of my
- 5:42success to that because at the 2005 World Championships, I have
- 5:48a check mark. My last four straws, which is
- 5:51about it was 31 feet and I got to my last four straws at 28
- 5:59feet. But I didn't change the
- 6:02integrity of the body posture. I maintained the body posture
- 6:06and I just put my foot down and I thought it was a very mediocre
- 6:11jump until the announcer said this is the best world
- 6:16championship qualifying jump ever, 8 meters, 59.
- 6:20So it wasn't until then I learned OK, the benefits of me
- 6:24learning how to deal with the the spacing and appropriate
- 6:28reception. It taught me it was a very
- 6:31valuable lesson because I was always taught no matter what, do
- 6:35not abort the jump because you never know what's going to
- 6:38happen. And by training every aspect of
- 6:44the job, whether I'm too far, too close or right on, I knew
- 6:47how to manipulate my body to jump and to jump very far
- 6:53despite the, the imperfect variables.
- 6:57So I, I have a chart that set up different, you know, based on
- 7:02different levels, different speed.
- 7:05These are the different check marks that I use from the
- 7:10penultimate based off speed. And I have it even for 10 flat,
- 7:15you know, 10 flat guys, 99 guys, 98 guys, they'll be at about 32
- 7:20feet range and some of this is going to be based on their
- 7:23height. But I think across the board,
- 7:26universally, these are some good measurables that we can use to
- 7:30identify if an athlete is going to be too far or too close in
- 7:34the competition for the midpoints.
- 7:40And on the penultimate, I like, I just hate to teach it because
- 7:44when I teach lowering it, it just put so much pressure on the
- 7:48body. You will produce a longer
- 7:50stride, lowering the center of gravity with the minimum loss of
- 7:53momentum. It's necessary to establish an
- 7:56erect body position for optimal take off.
- 8:02So the the penultimate to take off range is going to vary
- 8:06again, it's going to vary based off of how tall you are, you
- 8:10know, how many meters per second you're moving, how fast you're
- 8:13moving. And these are some of the the
- 8:17measurables that I like to give to high school coaches so that
- 8:22they can have a, a, a feel for like where should this be?
- 8:26I like to put a piece of tape down at the penultimate just so
- 8:30that we're making sure we're developing consistency over and
- 8:34over again. Well, somehow it just came out a
- 8:41little different from here. I got a little creative there.
- 8:46All right, so an athlete's distance is going to be
- 8:49determined by how fast the amount of speed generated
- 8:53horizontally at takeoff. Triple jumpers would take off
- 8:56at, you know, the 13 to 18° range and our long jumpers, I
- 9:01wish I could get the 45 and run a 995 like Usain Bolt and we
- 9:06could have defied history. But the the key is getting to
- 9:12that optimal position and we have to do a lot of different
- 9:15things of take off jumping over hurdles and different things
- 9:19that order to prepare you to prepare your athlete to jump and
- 9:26become coordinated enough where they feel comfortable, you know,
- 9:30leaving the ground and not over rotating.
- 9:33A lot of times once they get in the air and start over rotating,
- 9:37the athletes just abort the jump because it feels weird.
- 9:41It feels uncomfortable. I was always taught no matter
- 9:45what, you have to finish that jump.
- 9:47You know, unless you just simply can't.
- 9:50I mean, I seen the young guy from Arkansas, he took off at
- 9:56the Olympics and he was fighting for his life in the air.
- 9:58And if he could have landed, it would have been a pretty good
- 10:01jump. But you can tell that he gave
- 10:03every effort to do so. The take off, you know,
- 10:12generally the right-handed long jumpers, they're going to punch
- 10:15with the right arm. I like that arm, that punch to
- 10:19go right to the chin level. We don't want it to go up too
- 10:22high because then it disrupts the, the lever is just too long
- 10:27and you have to just get in the very compromising positions to
- 10:31finish the jump. Left hand jumpers are going to
- 10:33punch there, they're going to punch to the chin.
- 10:37And I like to teach. There's all kind of different
- 10:40ways to teach it. I love to teach the hitch kit
- 10:43for my even, it's the standard that I set very early.
- 10:48I taught a 8 year old how to hitch kit and that's the
- 10:51standard. Like Dobbs said, we don't accept
- 10:55you running four steps in between the hurdles, we only
- 10:58accept 3. So my standard is teaching the
- 11:01hitch kick right away. We teach them how to run
- 11:04efficiently right away because the more times they can get
- 11:08going through the range of motion doing a 1 1/2 hitch kick.
- 11:11Now I can teach the athlete when they get more competent,
- 11:15stronger and faster. I can teach them how to do the 2
- 11:181/2 hitch kick. A successful jumper has a unique
- 11:28combination of talents that will make jumpers successful in a
- 11:31variety of track and field events, sprints, hurdles, and
- 11:35other jumps where there's no substitute for speed.
- 11:38Peer speed without control and a consistent approach is nothing.
- 11:44We have to promote doing the technique, that approach over
- 11:49and over again, running with intent, making every step count,
- 11:53accelerating properly, pushing properly, going through the
- 11:56transition, going through your frequency phase and attacking
- 12:00the board. It's, it's a violent motion from
- 12:03that last third of your approach.
- 12:05We're talking about violence now.
- 12:08It's not a passive lackadaisical movement.
- 12:12I mean, we're running with purpose.
- 12:14You're trying to run through that board and you're trying to
- 12:17plant, you're trying to give it everything you have and it's
- 12:21very violent. That's what we call it.
- 12:29I'm a young, a young kid. He started long jumping last
- 12:34year. He's a 10th grader.
- 12:35He jumped 24, six. I think it's the top in his
- 12:38class there, the standard day one.
- 12:42We started teaching a long jump. We started teaching the 1 1/2
- 12:45hitch kid. He had never done it a day in
- 12:48his life. I was like, but this is going to
- 12:50be the standard. This is how you're going to do
- 12:52it. You're going to punch, You're
- 12:54going to drive the opposite arm over the top.
- 12:56You're going to bring the opposite arm around.
- 12:58So if you jump off a right, it's going to be right, left, right.
- 13:02And if you jump off the left, you're going to punch with the
- 13:04left, right in the right over the top.
- 13:06You're going to bring the left around.
- 13:09If you want to be the best, you know, it's statistically shown
- 13:13that the hitch kick is the way to go.
- 13:15So that's why I personally teach that and I want to bring the
- 13:20best out of each athlete that I trained.
- 13:22I'm so that's why it's very paramount that we do that.
- 13:26Also another little side note here that we started really
- 13:31focusing on once you go to the athletes getting into the
- 13:35position, you see we were punching.
- 13:37Let's see if he punch, he punched in the right position,
- 13:41he's going to snap his the take off lead, the lead that you take
- 13:44off that right leg, he's going to snap that heel to the butt.
- 13:47That's going to create a straight line pretty much from
- 13:51the hand to the hip to the foot. He's going to be able to drive
- 13:55that upward knee upwards. He's going to be in the that
- 13:58hurdle position and he's going to be able to hold it and land
- 14:03it. Now this someone who's long
- 14:05jump, you know, probably 15 times in his life, his first day
- 14:10he came out, we taught him this and now this is going to be the
- 14:13standard. So look out for Elijah Hudson.
- 14:16He'll probably jump 26 feet. So and like coach Anderson said,
- 14:24hey, I mean, the guy, he is one of the goats of this coaching.
- 14:30And you know, I do my approaching and we doing
- 14:33acceleration work and we doing some speed endurance on Tuesday.
- 14:37We're going to recover on Wednesday and do some resistant
- 14:40heels and they're going to go back to those six one 50s.
- 14:45And before you run, before you jump, you have to run.
- 14:51So running is a pivotal part of our training regimen and it's
- 14:58something that if you want your jumpers to excel at a high
- 15:02level, they have to run and there is no substitution for it.
- 15:08This is a typical work week that I would use throughout season.
- 15:14Obviously we'll change those different the approaches.
- 15:18I like to do it when they're fresh in the beginning of the
- 15:20week and on the Thursdays I will have them do some sleds and
- 15:26heels. Sometimes.
- 15:27It just depends on where we're at.
- 15:28We'll do short run jumps on those days, definitely during
- 15:31the fall and the offseason, and we're doing short run jumps.
- 15:35We're relaxing on Friday and we're going out there and
- 15:38jumping far on Saturdays. So that pretty much concludes
- 15:45the presentation. So now we can just open the
- 15:48floor for questions. What?
- 15:51Questions do we have? If we get access to this, if we
- 15:56didn't see the little piece of this.
- 15:58Yeah, well, you'll send this to us so we can send it out to
- 16:01everybody. Yes, I will.
- 16:02Yes, I will. Other posters.
- 16:08How long was this approach? Did you hear?
- 16:12That way steps and distance like how how long is their approach
- 16:17for yours. Oh, yours like yours?
- 16:21Mine OK, my long job approach was 172 feet and I took 23
- 16:29strides so it was on the far end.
- 16:33But I was a super duper Carl Lewis fan growing up.
- 16:40So if Carl Lewis took 23, I'm taking 23.
- 16:45I was heavily influenced by trying to but Dwight, yes.
- 16:51I I imagine Brandon is 60 and a. 100 meters to be able to do that
- 16:55though, I ran 10 O six in the 100 and I ran 647 in the 60
- 16:59meters. That's not bad.
- 17:06So all season you generally. Just do approach for.
- 17:11Once a week. Yes, because I've found that the
- 17:18you can probably in the fall side of things, we're working
- 17:22with novice in that space. You can throw in two days a
- 17:26week, but you don't want to overdo it either.
- 17:30At the same time, this is more for the elite side of things.
- 17:34We'll do it once a week for people who are new to it.
- 17:38Maybe you do the, the the approaches once a week and on
- 17:41the second day you're just on the track and you're just going
- 17:44over the rhythm of the run just so that you don't get them
- 17:48thinking too much about the board.
- 17:50I found that, you know, they're so obsessed with reaching for
- 17:54the board and I like them to just run and hit our marks as
- 17:59those marks that I illustrated. I'd like to have the four step
- 18:02check mark out there. I'd love to have the penultimate
- 18:05just to see if we're building consistency.
- 18:08And once they start building consistency, they'll become more
- 18:11competent. And when they become more
- 18:13competent, they'll be able to leave the ground with less
- 18:17effort and with a high level of execution.
- 18:23What other questions? You can have on two of the
- 18:26speeding darns. What would that be?
- 18:29What kind of Well, I'll take them up for my jumpers because
- 18:34like, are we talking about high school kids or are we talking
- 18:36about high school? You talk high school.
- 18:41Yeah. Yeah, for my high schools, I
- 18:44mean, I'm running three hundreds and two 50s and I mean I'm
- 18:48really doing some special endurance stuff because they're
- 18:53most elite high school athletes are called upon to do so many
- 18:58different events. They have to do the 404 by 4 or
- 19:01the 4 by 1. So I like to put them in a
- 19:05position where they can be successful.
- 19:07But I know that if we incorporate one day with special
- 19:11endurance and one day with speed endurance, we can hit, you know,
- 19:15we can get them in relatively good shape.
- 19:18And if they're running these events, as as Coach Eric said
- 19:22earlier, on a weekly basis, they're going to be building
- 19:25competency, competency there. They're going to be building
- 19:28strength and they're going to get that in competition effort
- 19:33that's going to help spill over to the other events as well.
- 19:39Yeah. So as far.
- 19:40As the accelerate approach, would you say so that six,
- 19:46because you know, sometimes high school kids, they're like wanted
- 19:48to get one more, let me get one more whether they're on the
- 19:50board or not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 19:54That's it. Let me just tell you this right
- 19:55now, it's not only high schoolers.
- 19:57I mean, the pro athletes do it too.
- 19:59I mean, one more. Can I?
- 20:01I just need one more. I was a victim of that.
- 20:05It has to be a point of no return, because you can't let
- 20:08them if they're suffering with. You know, being behind the board
- 20:13or over the board, you can't let them become too obsessed with
- 20:17not hitting the board. So you have to say, OK, these
- 20:21are amount. You have to set the expectation.
- 20:24It's unacceptable to file 2 times in a row.
- 20:28It's unacceptable to file 4 times in a row.
- 20:31You have to put them in positions where they will be too
- 20:34close, but they still have to take off because the one thing
- 20:37that you don't want from your high school student is for them
- 20:40to over and over again run to the board, abort it, and now
- 20:47they don't have a mark. So you have to set the standard
- 20:50early. It's unacceptable for you to
- 20:53file three times in a row. You have to set that standard
- 20:57right away because if you don't set the standard that the
- 21:01athlete is going, they will do it.
- 21:03They will file three times in a row and you have to go sometimes
- 21:07pretty extreme on it. For me, I do.
- 21:10I was like, OK, if you're going to file 4 times in a row, we're
- 21:14not going to do any more approaches for the next few
- 21:17weeks. Not that I'm really going to
- 21:20follow through with that, but I know it's going to make them
- 21:22think and concentrate a little bit more and they usually don't
- 21:28file at all. You have to set the standard
- 21:34right away. Did you ever file three times in
- 21:37a row? No, that was unacceptable.
- 21:40Not if you. Know let's see more questions
- 21:43for Dwight. Yeah, right back here.
- 21:46Is that off the box jumps or anyone?
- 21:55Did you hear that, Dwight? No, I didn't.
- 21:57I didn't. Hear that?
- 21:58Where are you going? Where do you fit in file box
- 22:01type stuff in your training? Where do you fit in like
- 22:04biometric file box jumps with your long helpers?
- 22:09You can do box jump on your like you do your approaches
- 22:13celebrations. You can do it on a Monday or you
- 22:15can do it on Thursday with the box, the box jumpers, the box
- 22:19jumps, the hills, the π metrics. I like to incorporate those on
- 22:24that second day. Their body would be pretty fresh
- 22:28coming off of that Wednesday. So Thursday you'll be able to
- 22:31get a really high level of training on that day where
- 22:37they're not so beat up from sprinting or the the speed
- 22:40endurance workout. Have a hand over here.
- 22:45Yeah, Go ahead. Yeah.
- 22:46How did? You get will, will, will needs.
- 22:48To stop. The boarding disk jumps.
- 22:51Well, you know, you know, that was a work in progress.
- 22:53Now you know that was a work in progress.
- 22:57You know, a lot of this is like, you know, athletes we all have.
- 23:01Sometimes we get in our own way and we have a vision of who we
- 23:07are and who we should be. But the reality stands.
- 23:11The work has to be put in and you have to hold yourself to the
- 23:15standard. And aborting jumps is something
- 23:19that everyday like we don't abort jumps because if you do it
- 23:24enough at practice, I guarantee you, you're going to do it at
- 23:27the meet. And there's nothing that your
- 23:29fans want to see more than you aborting a jump.
- 23:33In particular when you had a championships, AUS
- 23:36championships, you don't want to abort the job.
- 23:38So I try to hold them to that standard every single day.
- 23:43Have another question? All right, guys, give it up with
- 23:48Dwight Phillips. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.
- 23:51I appreciate it. Thank you for your time.
- 23:54Hey gang, Mike Cunningham here. Hey, I hope you enjoyed this
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