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Spring Tour: Tez Johnson Opens Up About His Relationship W/ Bo Nix + Dillon Gabriel Talks How He Landed At Oregon · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: Fellas.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of the Bust and Spring Football Tour.
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  Speaker 2: I am Will Compton. If you're just tuning in, you're
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  Speaker 2: new to you, welcome to the Busting with the Boys channel.
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  Speaker 2: Please make sure you're subscribe and leaving comments. During our
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  Speaker 2: Bust with the Boys Spring Football Tour, we sit down
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  Speaker 2: with head coaches and a couple players from each school.
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  Speaker 2: We go to get some background on him, talk about
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  Speaker 2: their story a little bit. On this episode you're about
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  Speaker 2: to watch Tes Johnson and Dylan Gabriel. Tes.
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  Speaker 1: He has an incredible story.
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  Speaker 2: Was adopted by bo Nix's family at the age of fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about before he got there as he made
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  Speaker 2: his way to Oregon, which was his favorite school growing up.
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  Speaker 2: Dude has insane, incredible charisma. He's super funny. Dylan Gabriel,
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  Speaker 2: He's obviously transferred around absolutely everywhere, earned himself like two
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  Speaker 2: extra years because of COVID and I believe a medical
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  Speaker 2: red shirt. But he has now made his third stop,
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  Speaker 2: third or fourth, I don't know. We talk about the
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  Speaker 2: entire journey. He actually starts interviewing me at the very end.
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  Speaker 2: On advice and things like that. These are incredible conversations. Portland, Eugene, Oregon.
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  Speaker 2: You guys were the absolute best. It felt like everybody
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  Speaker 2: I met was the nicest human being in the world.
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  Speaker 2: with the Boys podcast on absolute incredible. One of the
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  Speaker 2: grittiest rises. If he wins a Natty, this will be
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  Speaker 2: one of the grittiest rises in coaching history. The dude
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  Speaker 2: was a linebacker at William Jewell, was a high school
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  Speaker 2: football coach at Park Hillsouth. Grinded, send emails, letters, and
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  Speaker 2: everything else. I don't want to spoil the entire episode.
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  Speaker 2: Drive thirteen hours from meeting this coach from a college
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  Speaker 2: a GA at Alabama position coach of coordinated all the above,
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  Speaker 2: and now he's the head coach of Oregon. That interview
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  Speaker 2: comes out tomorrow on our Bus with the Boys podcast. Again,
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  Speaker 2: big hugs, tiny kisses. Thank you for tuning in enjoy
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  Speaker 2: these episodes. Tesz Johnson, Welcome to Busting with the Boys.
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  Speaker 2: We are stoked to have you on. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: you have had such a unique journey getting to this point.
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  Speaker 2: Like I read and saw that you were adopted by
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  Speaker 2: the Knicks family.
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  Speaker 1: You were what fifteen years old?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was fifteen. When I was sixteen, it was
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  Speaker 3: what April tweet thirty.
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  Speaker 2: Don't be scared to put that thing close to the
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  Speaker 2: list now, Oh Dann you got it tea.
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  Speaker 4: So that's when the day I got adopted.
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  Speaker 2: So talk about talk about getting to that point at
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  Speaker 2: fifteen and being taken in by Coach Nix and their family.
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  Speaker 2: I was reading some things like I saw your mother
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  Speaker 2: have quotes in there and everything else.
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  Speaker 1: But I would love to learn more about you know,
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  Speaker 1: how you got there. It was a It was a
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  Speaker 1: complete change for me.
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  Speaker 3: It was a it was a different journey, as we
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  Speaker 3: all know, because being a black kid just moving into
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  Speaker 3: a a white house, and it was like, you have
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  Speaker 3: to learn different ways of how to live life.
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  Speaker 4: I was more.
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  Speaker 3: I was more like I won't say on my own,
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  Speaker 3: but I was more doing whatever I wanted, like defiant
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  Speaker 3: as a kid.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And they taught.
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  Speaker 3: Me rules that you like, you got to obey some
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  Speaker 3: rules to get what you need to be and you
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  Speaker 3: have to do the right things to be well in
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  Speaker 3: order to get what you need.
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  Speaker 4: To get to.
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  Speaker 3: And my biological mom loved them to death, like she
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  Speaker 3: knows that they helped me a lot, and she's she's
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  Speaker 3: always been supportive of what they've done and how they've
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  Speaker 3: changed and impacted my life. It was kind of the
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  Speaker 3: Knicks family taking some stress off my mom's shoulders, and
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  Speaker 3: every day she she praised and every day that like
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  Speaker 3: they continue to do that and make me a better
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  Speaker 3: man like I am today.
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  Speaker 1: So was this something that you were resistive to at first?
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't like resistant because I remember walking into the
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  Speaker 3: house and it was eting at the dinner table and
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  Speaker 3: like me and my brothers like we always take the
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  Speaker 3: play and go to the room and literally, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like I always to have like dreams like eating at
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  Speaker 3: the dinner table, and we did some nights, but it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't like everybody else that's just take their plate to
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  Speaker 3: the room and play the game or whatever for but
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  Speaker 3: they was eating at the dinner table. I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to leave like they eat at the
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  Speaker 3: dinner table. Okay, I want to stay. So that was
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  Speaker 3: I never told them that. I never like showed it
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  Speaker 3: because I was still I was scared to death. As
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  Speaker 3: soon as I walked in house. I was scared to death.
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  Speaker 3: It was it's me and everybody eyes on me. Now
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  Speaker 3: I'm like all right, okay, like what am we gonna do?
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  Speaker 3: And I was just spooked the whole time.
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  Speaker 4: Was spooked.
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  Speaker 2: Were you like like before that or were you around like
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  Speaker 2: wrong groups of people or are you like getting into trouble?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I was getting into trouble around the room people. I
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  Speaker 3: was always getting suspended from school. I used to never
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  Speaker 3: like come home. I used to just end up showing
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  Speaker 3: back to showing back up to school the next day,
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  Speaker 3: just because like football, I was always good at football.
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  Speaker 3: I was actually just getting becoming better at football, and
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  Speaker 3: I knew that was just a way I can cope
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  Speaker 3: with all the problems at home, or.
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  Speaker 4: Like just to get my mind off everything.
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  Speaker 3: Football was my passion and the way I can just
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  Speaker 3: cope with a lot of stuff. So I used to
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  Speaker 3: never go home and I should just be out with
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  Speaker 3: the wrong people, and just I knew the next day
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  Speaker 3: how to get to school, whether I walked or whether
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  Speaker 3: I rolled with somebody, but I was always at school
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  Speaker 3: the next day and just like there for football, like
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't miss football. It was like like my dad
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  Speaker 3: he made it so strict of like you can't miss football,
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  Speaker 3: like you have to do this, like football is that
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  Speaker 3: had like a kind of a structure of my life
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  Speaker 3: to what like I know, like I can't miss this
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  Speaker 3: or I can't play like.
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  Speaker 4: So that that's pretty much what it was.
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  Speaker 2: You and you think too, like if you're if you're
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  Speaker 2: in like the wrong crowds or you're getting into trouble
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  Speaker 2: or anything like that, you would think I would almost
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  Speaker 2: assume that you almost wouldn't have had the mentality of Okay,
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  Speaker 2: there he is a dinner table.
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  Speaker 1: I want to sit here.
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  Speaker 2: I want to be here, like knowing that this is
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  Speaker 2: the right thing for where you Do you feel like
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  Speaker 2: you even even though you were hanging around wrong look
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  Speaker 2: like wrong groups and in the wrong situations, do you
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  Speaker 2: feel like you were always somebody that kind of was
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  Speaker 2: like sitting back and seeing, like, you know, whether it's
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  Speaker 2: showing up to school the next day or being like
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  Speaker 2: I don't want necessarily want to be a part of this.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just kind of like this is just my association.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I was always thinking, Like, they'll go do
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  Speaker 3: some bad stuff, and I knew it was bad, but
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  Speaker 3: sometimes I can just get like pulled into it just
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  Speaker 3: because I'm around the wrong people and I knew it
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  Speaker 3: was the wrong thing to do, but I just did
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  Speaker 3: it just because of like that's all I knew at
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  Speaker 3: the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I always used to be like, oh no, like this
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  Speaker 3: can give me a trouble for football, I can't play,
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  Speaker 3: But I still used to do it, and I used
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  Speaker 3: to get away with it, and until that last time,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't get away with anything.
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  Speaker 4: So I just dealt with that that for like a year.
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  Speaker 1: Are you a going to talk about the last time?
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  Speaker 1: I prefer not to talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fine, But it was just like I can
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  Speaker 3: tell you like the situation. Definitely, I'm happy I made
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  Speaker 3: it when I was young, and now that I'm older,
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  Speaker 3: it makes me more careful about every decision I make,
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  Speaker 3: whether that's buying food at the store or whether that's
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  Speaker 3: going someplace like just to get food, Like it makes
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  Speaker 3: me think three times before I do anything.
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  Speaker 2: So you're in Bo's relationship, talk about that when you
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  Speaker 2: move into the house. You guys obviously want to stay
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  Speaker 2: titled together.
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  Speaker 3: So standing all right, stand with Bo? Was Bo was
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  Speaker 3: always serious, still is serious to this day. Like he
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  Speaker 3: was he was a kid in high school, like nobody
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  Speaker 3: wanted to talk to, Like he was scary. He was
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  Speaker 3: like my dad for real, like seriously, like he was
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  Speaker 3: always like in school, he's doing his homework, he's at baseball,
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  Speaker 3: or he's at football, like he was already a college
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  Speaker 3: student in high school.
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  Speaker 4: Like he was just a pro, a pro at a
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  Speaker 4: young age.
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  Speaker 3: And you could just tell, like kudos to my dad
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  Speaker 3: and my parents, Like my parents like they raised him
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  Speaker 3: to be this this well kid, and everybody knows, like
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  Speaker 3: he was a baby, he was bad, like like that's
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  Speaker 3: how he grew up.
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  Speaker 4: Like he was he was a hard headed kid.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, as he got older, you can just tell
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  Speaker 3: like he was raised to be all right, you got
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  Speaker 3: to be a pro to everything you do.
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  Speaker 4: You have to do this, And me, I'm looking at
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  Speaker 4: that at a young age.
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  Speaker 3: Now when I moved in with him, I'm like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: if he can do it, I can do it, Like
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  Speaker 3: you know, like I was trying to follow in his footsteps,
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  Speaker 3: but it is at a different position. But before he
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  Speaker 3: got there, I was at quarterback. So I moved to
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  Speaker 3: dB and you look at them highlights. I was a
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  Speaker 3: little I can talk nice, but seriousness I was. I
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  Speaker 3: was the receiver, scared to death and like the stuff
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  Speaker 3: he used to do. And he used to just tell me.
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  Speaker 3: I just always believed, and I knew I couldn't drop
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  Speaker 3: a pass from him. Like if I dropped the pass
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  Speaker 3: from him, I feel like I let everybody down, especially him,
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  Speaker 3: because he was just so like I said, he was
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  Speaker 3: just so top tier in high school, like he was
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  Speaker 3: this guy, he was the number one quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: He was missed football like he had all sorts of records.
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  Speaker 3: But in the back of my head, I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I can do that too, Like what if I get
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  Speaker 3: in that picture and break a record or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: But my first game, I go out there against Hoover
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  Speaker 3: High School. We played George Pickens and everybody you know, like.
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  Speaker 1: Georgia the two days school.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness at Hoover, like he was a man
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  Speaker 3: of mons boys. I didn't watched George Pickens do some
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  Speaker 3: stuff in high school.
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  Speaker 4: Like it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was crazy crazy. So we go out there and
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  Speaker 3: playing on ESPN for the this is my very first game.
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  Speaker 4: I'm starting.
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  Speaker 1: I'm one thirty.
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  Speaker 3: It's your first game, first game in high school, like
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  Speaker 3: actually playing starting like ESPN.
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  Speaker 4: We played the.
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  Speaker 3: Hoover matt where they played the College World Series, like
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  Speaker 3: like I'm in the game and I'm one thirty, soaking wet,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm I'm balling, like I'm out there balling. I
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  Speaker 3: was the first touchdown for like the whole four the
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  Speaker 3: whole the whole game was the first touchdown until at
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  Speaker 3: the end they took all their good players out. We
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  Speaker 3: got beat fifty five to fourteams, but.
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  Speaker 1: We got beat bad. I'm balling.
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  Speaker 4: I had like twelve catches.
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  Speaker 3: I had like one hundred and twelve yards in a
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  Speaker 3: touchdown for like the whole game, and right then there
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  Speaker 3: I knew, okay, I can play like I can play
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  Speaker 3: a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: I had little confidence, but I was still timid and scared.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know the game.
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  Speaker 3: I was just running out there, running routes, playing catching.
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  Speaker 3: They used to tell me, Like in high school, my
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  Speaker 3: dad used to call plays like menu nine, T whip
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  Speaker 3: or T did because I didn't understand the concepts at
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  Speaker 3: the time. But Bo and my dad took upon himself,
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  Speaker 3: like when both left, my dad and my little brother
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  Speaker 3: Caleb worked with me more like learning plays and just
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  Speaker 3: being able to understand, like where you need to be.
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  Speaker 3: There was no more why you need to be there? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: why I need to be there? Like it was no
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  Speaker 3: more a T whip or T dig or T corner.
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  Speaker 3: It was like Menu nine H posts all right, nah,
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  Speaker 3: I no, Like I'm the age now, I'm the post guy.
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  Speaker 3: I'm finna take the top off the defense now, Like
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  Speaker 3: I knew that and like and that helped me so
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  Speaker 3: so much, Like in the long run and now that
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  Speaker 3: I can see everything, everything moves slow for me now
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  Speaker 3: and like high school was, I feel like high school
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  Speaker 3: we was the sixth A, but the coaches we had
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  Speaker 3: was college coaches, like my dad was like straight hard
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  Speaker 3: nose still is like hard nos, like you're gonna have
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  Speaker 3: to do it this way or you cannot play like
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  Speaker 3: and you have to buy in. And I bought in
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  Speaker 3: and it's been doing me justice whole Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Man, talk about because your recruiting journey is obviously different
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  Speaker 2: than Bo's Bow's goes Auburn for for four years, you
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  Speaker 2: start off and go to Troy. Talk about your recruiting
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  Speaker 2: journey and getting to Troy. Were you were you tight
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  Speaker 2: that you weren't more recruited coming out of high school? No?
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  Speaker 4: I was.
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  Speaker 3: Actually I kind of like knew, like towards the end
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  Speaker 3: of my senior year, like all right, I'm a small guy,
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  Speaker 3: but like I can play like I knew colleges was
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  Speaker 3: not going to take chances on me, and Tennessee almost
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  Speaker 3: took a chance on me.
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  Speaker 4: Kentucky almost took a chance on me.
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  Speaker 1: Damn Tennessee.
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  Speaker 3: I can't remember the coach, was it Stoops or something?
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  Speaker 3: Or that's Kentucky. That's Kentucky. That's Kentucky.
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  Speaker 1: So what year was this?
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  Speaker 4: Twenty twenty?
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  Speaker 1: Who's that couch? Twenty twenty? Prew it, prew it, It
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  Speaker 1: was prew it.
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  Speaker 3: Jeremy Prouy and was on the phone and we was
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  Speaker 3: a Lee Lee Levin and Tennessee and we got on
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  Speaker 3: the phone with him. He was just asking can I
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  Speaker 3: do puvertunism or whatnot. He didn't take me. So I
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  Speaker 3: went to a camp in Kentucky with my coach coach Hat,
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  Speaker 3: and they offered me at Kentucky and they pulled it
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  Speaker 3: at the last second.
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  Speaker 1: Is because somebody else committed there.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody else committed there before me, and I wanted to commit.
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  Speaker 4: And I remember in the.
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  Speaker 3: Car, I was like, Dad, I just want to wait.
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  Speaker 3: My dad was like, you have to pick somewhere to go.
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  Speaker 3: It's up to you. Like you can make your own choice,
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: but you had to pick somewhere to go. And I
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: knew coach Lindsey very well, Like Coach Lindsay was at
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  Speaker 3: Auburn for the first time, like he was like when
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  Speaker 3: I knew him. He was at Arburn and he was
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  Speaker 3: on the GUS milesone and he went to Troy and
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  Speaker 3: I was like, okay. He called me one day. I
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  Speaker 3: was like, what are you doing. I was like, Coach,
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  Speaker 3: I'm eating dinner. Like I'm just eating dinner with my family.
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  Speaker 3: He was like, go ahead and commit and come here
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  Speaker 3: and just ball out. I hung up the phone and
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  Speaker 3: I committed, Like that's how that's how well. I knew
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  Speaker 3: coach Lindsay and he was an empty sat and I
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  Speaker 3: got them in my freshman year. And he had a
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  Speaker 3: guy by the name of Rusty Way in the weight room,
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  Speaker 3: and he literally Rusty with put the foundation of me,
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  Speaker 3: like for his strength. Like people look at me now
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  Speaker 3: like I'm little, but you go into the weight room,
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  Speaker 3: I'm squading five hundred or I'm dad lifting.
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  Speaker 4: I can put four or five on the.
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  Speaker 3: Over exactually put I can put four and five in
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  Speaker 3: repid and I can clean two ninety five.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm dead serious. You guys believe you.
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  Speaker 4: I believe that.
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  Speaker 3: Like like I'm like, he put the foundation for his
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  Speaker 3: strength on me.
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  Speaker 2: He's letting motherfuckers know, like you might listen like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: don't get it twisted.
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  Speaker 1: I can do it. I can do something the weight room.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like and like when I enter college and
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  Speaker 3: Boat went to Arburn, I wouldn't necessarily like thinking like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna beat back.
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  Speaker 4: Up with him again.
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  Speaker 3: My my my always thought process was I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 3: to Troy and I'm Finna show everybody like I supposed
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  Speaker 3: to be at a big, big college and my dad
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  Speaker 3: supported me, like cluse to my dad, he kept me
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  Speaker 3: in a statementally to where like I've never went into
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  Speaker 3: like a shell and like realized do I belong? Like
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  Speaker 3: I went in there confident as a freshman, thinking like
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  Speaker 3: I'm a senior, like this is my spot, this is
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  Speaker 3: where I put belong, this is where I stayed, and.
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: He like gosh, he just made me so much better,
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: like he didn't know, he don't know how to ever
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: let you feed into your doubts, like you.
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: Know, like because not saying it wasn't doubts there, but
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: he took my my mind completely away from it. Like
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: I went there and I was behind Kaitlyn Geiger and
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: a guy.
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: Named Trey I forgot his last name, but they was
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: really good.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: Kayln Gogy transferred to Texas Tech and I got the
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: opportunity to play, and ever since then, the balls started
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: coming to me and like the quarterback knew like I'm
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: the type of guy like I'm gonna know my quarterback
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: before they learned out who I am. If he if
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: his arm is like not big is what they supposed
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: to be I'm not gonna run my fasts on the
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: deep ball because it's gonna be on the thrown right,
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna make it look like it's on the
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: money and catch it over my shoulder. And literally they
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: know like those little things I took pridey in, like who,
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: I don't care who the quarterback is, Like who you was, Like,
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: that's that's just me. I'm gonna I'm gonna know you
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: before you know me. You gonna know I can run
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: her out. You gonna know that I can catch a
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: football because that's my job. That's what I'm supposed to do.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: But like it's the little things for me for a quarterback.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: Did you did you always think about using Troy to
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: get to the next thing?
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Probably, like to know, and maybe even the coaches at
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Troy would think the same thing. Like I feel like
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: when I talk to coaches that I know now that
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: I might have you know, had at Nebraska that are
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: at a smaller school and they're the way that they recruit,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: They'll be, hey, come here for a couple of years.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: You can now hit the portal, Like just use us
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: to get to the next thing.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Like it wasn't necessarily that I didn't know about PFF
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: throughout my whole college career into that, like that last
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: two years at Troy, like I didn't know about any
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: of that stuff. Like they used to be like PFF,
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: hey you ranked number one O you you dober two
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: behind Marvin Harrison. I'm like, bro, what is that? Like
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: what is PFF. They're like that's player of football focused,
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: Like you don't know what that is. I'm like, no,
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: I never really like I'm not into the like media
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: and like just excuse me, like going out there and
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: just like looking at me, like what am I ranked?
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Like on im a five hole? Let's try to get
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: no more.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: No, I wasn't.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: I was just out there playing and literally they know
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: like I was at Troy with Organ gloves.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: On, Like like I got a.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Picture with me with Organ gloves on in the Troy uniform.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Like that's how bad I loved Organ, Like I wanted
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: to go to Organ this whole time, like throughout my
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: whole life. Everybody know I'm an Organ fan, like my family,
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: my oldest brother, like my biological oldest brother Auburn fan.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: My youngest brother is an Ohio State fan. I don't
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: know if he comes to the game. I'm sorry, but
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: like and I'm an Organ fan. Me and my stepdad's Organ.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Who got you on the organ? Showed you a game or.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Something like that.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: Like like my stepdad used to come in like at
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: the work because you know Oregon down South, they come
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: on later, right, So I to sneak up late and
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: watch the games as my mom told us to go
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: to bed for school and watch Organ and Danthen Thomas,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: oh Man like Key's. He was a little guy and
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: I was a little guy too, but I didn't know
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: about waiting and stuff like that, but he was.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: He was doing stuff out there.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: I used to go try out against like my homeboys
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: outside and like and I knew used to never get tackled,
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: never get tackled. I'm until like I'm so tired, I'm
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: gonna just get a ball up, Like okay, you can
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: have the ball. But I used to mimic who Pharaoh Brown,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Danthon Thomas like all those guys.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: Like I used to just go out there and try
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: to mimic.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: And then my stepdad was like he look at this
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: jersey they got on this week or there, come out
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: here with this jersey. I'm like, oh my goodness like
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: now like when I was a young age, it was
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: like d entherther Thomas and the jerseys, like okay, I
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: want to go there, Like every day I used to
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: beg for, like a Orgon hoodie, like an Oregon hoodie.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: I used to just beg for it, just beg for.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: And I finally got one when I was like going
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: through like I was leaving middle school. I got an
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: organ hood I never took it off, like I ever
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: took it off.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: I don't even think I watched that thing, which I
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: don't even think I used to watch that thing, like
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: I used to like just wear it like they know,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: like everybody who knows me from knee high on to
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: now the normal organ fan.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I'm a diehard organ fan, like and they probably watched
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: it like this man is legitimately living.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Living, living it.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: And then it's so real to me because when I
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: entered the portal, I'm like, okay, up on, like you
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: can see my comments. It got duck emojis, and I'm like, okay,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: maybe it can, maybe it can happen. Not not even
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: seeing signs I'm thinking of, Like I text Bowl and
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, bo, you think we're going to take me.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: This is him joking.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I tell the story every time because it's so funny
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: to me. This is around Christmas time, Like I text
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: him like, hey, bo, you think or going to take me?
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: He text me, nah, probably not. Like he crushed my dreams.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, crushing, I'm thinking low.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: You can't put in a good Okay, you supposed to
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: be brothers, but like but nah, I'm thinking now, I'm
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: thinking low, like Memphis, like just lower schools.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: I can just stay down south and I can. I
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: kid you not.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Like the next day, when my name officially entered the portal,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I get a miscall for my mom, like two of them,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: and I got thirteen or twelve misscalls and it's all
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: from like big ten schools, Big ten and Pac twelve.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: But it's not one of them from Oregon. I think
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: the first one called me was Nebraska. Nah, not Nebraska.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Wisconsin. Wisconsin called me. That's the first
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: uh call I really answered. Then they offered me, and
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: then Penn State, then Oklahoma State, and then it started
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: rolling UCLA. I'm like, all right, now it's starting to roll.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: My mom was like, hey, you need to pick up
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: the phone. Did you put my number on the transfer?
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, ma'am. I didn't really know. I just
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: signed the paper. I like at this point, like I fulfill,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: like I'm into it. Like I was so scared entering.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: I tasted my dad like that, I'm really scared, Like
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: just pray on it. And I prayed what made you scared?
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: To joy the portal of thing, fact that you're leaving
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Troy and letting people down, or like damn, is anybody
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: gonna want me?
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Uh that?
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Both of them like so when I leaving Troy, like
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Troy fan based, like I love Troy. Troy supported me
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: in so many ways. It was it was unreal. Every
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: time I go back down south, I go to Troy
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: just because the people they supported me so much throughout thinking.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Then because the first half of the season that last
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: year I was there, I was hurt, separated my clavicle
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: and it was it was just all bad.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: And then I came back up state.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: We lost some college game day don't want to talk
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: about it, but I came back in it. But we
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: won a championship. Then the support from the Troy fans
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: was unreal. The student section is unreal, like, but I
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: just felt like I fulfill my destiny and I was
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: kind of scared of leaving them. And then I thought
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: and then I was like, Okay, now who's gonna take me?
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Now I'm going through this process.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I think I'm going through this process again of like
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: who's gonna take me? I'm still a little guy, but
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: because at Troy, I'm gonna put it out there. At Troy,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: I was one forty five playing, so can we like
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: I got there one thirty five playing as a true freshman,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Like I'm I'm just out there running scared and scared,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: like trying to get here. Yeah, just trying not to
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: get here, still trying to not get here, don't get
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: me wrong, still trying to get hit.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: But I'm I'm still a little gud there running around.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: But I was just scared of just leaving and nobody
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: taking me and going through the process again. Now I'm
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: just back to square one, right, But then again, now
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: we're at the dinner table.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Bow comes in the house with a bag but he
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: won't let me see it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: And I get a call from coach Junior Adams and
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I think it's a Cali area code. I want to
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: say it's a Calid area code, and I'm answering the phone.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: I'm like hello, like Norman, Hello. I'm like I'm thinking this,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Like who I'm thinking of this? I forgot who I'm
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: thinking that. I'm thinking it's texts in them because they
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: just follow me on Twitter. So I'm like, all right,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: takes infit off of me. So he called me, but
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: it's a Calid area code. I should have known. Like
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: that's not like he text in. I should have known that.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: So I answered. He was like, hey, this is Junior
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Adam from Oregon, and I was like, what a pause.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: He's talking in my ear. But I'm looking at my
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: mom like this or like it's Organ. Like Mom is
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: like it's so real. They on the phone and he
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: was like, we want to offer your scholarship with this.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Something you wanna do? I said, coach, I'm committed, Like
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: that's the next words in my mouth, Like I don't
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: care who else offered me after this, I'm committing.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: I'm going to Organ.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Like it's don'tky how far where it is. It could
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: have been in somewhere else down farther than where it
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: is now, but I'm going to Organ. I'm going out
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: there and by this time I didn't know Bo was staying.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking he leave him to the NFL. I'm still
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: not not in my head. I'm still thinking like, okay,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: I'm going out there by myself all along, and then
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: the video comes out he's back. I'm like, oh, not
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: in the world and the no like it's this is
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: gonna be crazy because us together is an' oh my goodness,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: that's like that's like putting jumper cables on the wrong way,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, Like like me and
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: both together some it's some serious like and just being
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: able to get the organ with him again and was
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: like in breaking records again and not knowing I was
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: on the road to breaking the record anyway, because he
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: always kept my mind away from everything and he still do.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: He'll text me every other day and be like you
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: suck like you know him, Yeah you're not.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Him, like like you just and that's his way of saying,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: stay humble, don't feed into the media. And I still
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: thank him of that. But as soon as I committed,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: he come out with an organ shirt to gloves and
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: some shorts. I'm like, you knew the whole time, Like
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: you knew the whole time. You could have told me
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: some of my hopes wouldn't get up or something like,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: he could have told me. I was just waiting it
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: like I'm sitting there like my dreams are crushed. I'm
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: never going to organ And then I get the phone call.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: He got the he got the gloves for me. It
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: was the pink breast cancer gloves they wore from U. C.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: L A.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, now it was time to Now I'm going to
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: put some drip on and I'm the best dripper in college.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I can tell you that right now. You number one,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: number one, number one. I don't care no one close second.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Who's out there? Whose game you respect? Who's aim I respect?
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Just hands down, Like if I turn on the film,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: who who the guy I want to watch? Hands drip,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: drip wise or take dew tank Dell, tank Dell, got
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: some drip on them, Stephan Diggs, dude, But you're.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Number one in college. There's nobody you see in college
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: that kind of camp.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: Put nobody else.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: And you can go to my profile you can see
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: like I got that drip on everything color coordinated, but
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: I'm an offset it with the moutheace.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna messing up with the mouths.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I'm telling him every time, I'm I'm gonna do something
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: totally different. Something you think you saw, but it's different.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Oh no, wait, now he got the spat on the one.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I may need to do that. You can't do that.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: You can't. You just gotta put a little splat on it.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: You can't.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: I can't do too much. You can't do too much.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: But you can do it though.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Oh he's electric, bro, He's electric, dude? Could it outside
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: of obviously you guys you want to win the PAC
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: twelfth title, and outside of your two losses?
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Could it? Could it have went any better for you? Nah?
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I feel like record and what receptions? Third most yards
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: in a single season, and you're growing up loving the
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Anthony Thomas Like you're mimicking these guys, and now you
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: hold a record.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I couldn't have worked out any better for you.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: It was. It was.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: It's so real me actually going out here and racing
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: death and Thomas a beaning was so real for me.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Like he got out here in the lineup and off
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: the line, I got Hi'm like, yeah he probably.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Just oh right now, his knees.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: He lost a little step in I'm still I'm still
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: a little young guy, but now it's so real, like
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: it could have got any better way than what it is.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: God writes his story in so many ways, and every
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: day I remind myself to live in his presence and
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: give thanks to him because it's only possible because of him.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: So me saying the record was because I feel like
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: that's the.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Quarterback, your brother. You got your brother back in the pocket.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: You know I'm closer to.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: It was No, it was just one of the things,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: like one of my my teammate, my rooms, my receiver
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: room is so supportive of me, Trot Franklin, Coach Adams.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: They they taught me so much as far as courages
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: and knowing who's in knowing who can guard you, who
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: can't guard you, which nobody can guard me, not on me,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: not on the big ass stuff, but like that's how
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: I carry myself every day. But just knowing, like who's
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: gonna be out there going to you on this play,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: who's going to be sea hawk, double team you on
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: this play? Knowing how to beat it, like Troy Franklin
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: taught me so much in his years here. It's it's
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: so real, but we're gonna get washed the back. Don't
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: don't worry about it. It's it's okay. Last game I've seen,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: see you to night. We got something coming for y'all.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what can we What can we expect this upcoming season?
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Generation generational?
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm telling you right now, nobody in the country
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: got the stuff like Orgon, nobody. We touch it first,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: and y'all get it right after us. That's what y'all
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: gonna get it right after us every time. Every time
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: we touch it first. Every time you see something new,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: we touched it first, way before even hit the net.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: So yo, he's a juice.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: How about Uh? So you got you had Bowl last year?
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: You have Dylan Gabriel this year. What have you seen
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: so far out of him?
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: You take a lot of pride in on the quarterback
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: before they know you, Like, what have you seen?
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: He's electric, He's a more he's more of a receiver
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: type of mindset guy. Like I say that because he
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: talks trash. You know what I'm saying. Okay, Oh, okay,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: he threw a whole shot completed.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: You like that?
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Huh?
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Okay, Like, let's do it like he's a he's a
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: good quarterback. He's smart. You love to compete. That's one
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: thing I see from Like Bow's a silent assassin. Yeah,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: like you know he's gonna pick you apart, and like
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: you're gonna have to respect him at the end of
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: the game, Like you're gonna walk up to him shake
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: his hand, like, oh you're good dealing' gonna let you
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: know he's good while he throwing that ball, Like he
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: go ball, Lefty, that's a dot. Yeah, here go, Like
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: let's let's keep it rolling. Like Delan is a deal's
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: a guy. He's really good.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: He's he's goofy bro like he's in the locker room.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: The difference between them like bows like bows a like
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: I said, he's a pro. Like you'll see him one
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: of two times, like in the locker room and he'll
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: crack jokes and then get out and then get to.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: His means do his thing.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Dylan, he's one of the bros. Like he's gonna be
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: in there, he gonna get everything. He gonna get everything
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: done early, then chill with us in the locker room.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like he's he want to
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: be a part of the team. Whi's not saying that
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: they don't want to be a part of the team
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: like he's he was way a part of the team.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: He always said something to.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: A different personality. Yeah, he's just it's just different. Like
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: we see dialing in the locker room every day. He
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: come in there and he'll yell just for no reason.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: He go here you go, and he carries that to
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: the field. Yeah, he sways the drippiest quarterback in college.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: But I don't think so right now. He got to
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: put something on, like he he got some tattoos in
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: the tattoos make up for you know what I'm saying.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: But he gotta put something on.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: You gotta get him right now.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: I don't think I can get him right though. I
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: think it's the helmet.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Bro's device is is fat in his head already?
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Like why so you gotta like it's come.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Do you try to put him on game? Like, do
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: you try and help him out? Yeah, because sometimes that's
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: all you need. You need your teammate to come up
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: to kind of h It's like, hey, you know, it's
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: okay if you do.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: See he do the he do the opposite. See, I'm
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: gonna cover my whole left side. He's gonna cover this
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: leg in this arm like he's gonna he's gonna do
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: an alternate. I'm gonna keep it the same side, keep
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: it simple, don't touch this side like I don't.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: He's he's dripped though, he's he got a little drip.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Any white boys with some swag on the team tier
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: terres Ferguson he got some drip?
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Is that natural?
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Y'all have to help him out like myself and be like, hey, Kyle,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: can't let you walking out there like.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: You got the movies on, I'm messing with the newbies.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: You got the nebies on the five, I got them
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: at the crib right now, he got the newbies on.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: I like them right there. I got a lot of movies.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: I got a mobie collection.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Just start fucking showing it off.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: If he was hating on me, I say in the airport, Oh, bro,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: come on, you can't hate on movies.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Bro, The movies good. But now Calae Castle got some drip.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: What you think of what you think of his shues
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: show Adidas.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Now we can't mess with this man. When we had Nike,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: we had Nike head quarters almost basically with those so
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, t Firt got some drip on them.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: Who else.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: You got, Kyla Casper. Kyla Casper got some drip. But
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: he's just tall. He got tattooed, so it just looked good,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. It looked like, oh gosh,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: what's his name from, Ricky Piersong from Florida, That's what
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: he looked like.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Taylor, who's not here. I mean he's
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: got he's tatted everywhere, that white boy, Yes, everywhere, whole body,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: whole body, leg Yeah, my boy, Bucky was okay. Bucky
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: was a dripper too, though, Bucky Bucky every Okay, Bucky.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Put some drip on, bucket, put everything on. But his
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: clee game is gonna be crazy. And then outside of that,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: he's gonna be so simple with a sweatsuit. But the
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: shoe game, you're gonna have to look and be like yours. Oh,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: but he's like like, you're gonna be like, oh okay,
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Now he's gonna upset you with something.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: It's gonna be crazy. That's all you need a little
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: simple but somebody, some subtle.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your favorite purchase.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: We're now in the nil generation. What's been your favorite
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: purchase so far?
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: My favorite purchase?
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: You know, you get to the NFL. They talk about
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: your first pay check, what you what's the first a ball?
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: What's the favorite thing you know? If you purchase? I
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: got to, I ain't gonna.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: I got to.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: I gotta rolax bust down in the Coddy Yeah, Cuddy,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: yea watch bro, I ain't gonna.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I got that.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: And I got my chain, the tas Mania chain with
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: my area code hooked up to it, so like, I mean,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: I got you.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Come correct, Yeah, I gotta come. I stepped.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I stepped simple though I'm gonna. If I would have chained,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: I'm not willing to watch. If I would have watched,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: I might bust the chain just because I got the
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: suit on.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm sayings on the night.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, depending on how it shakes my hand and pops out
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: in the light, hit it, you might see some vvs
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: in Yah, my bad, I'm sorry. But other than that,
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I mean I'm pretty them three right there? I got three,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: my bad, not just one.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, but I had to.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: I'm chilling right now.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: No, I'm cool intil the season come, and then when
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: the season comes, jump off, jump off. Well, I might
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: cool during the season, get the drive day and then
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: set it all like I don't know, you know what
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, I don't know.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I just got something.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: What uh? What's been your favorite part about playing for coach.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Landing The consistent challenge he gives us, Like it's every
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: day we got a new challenge. Okay, he challenges us.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: He challenged us every single day, Like he'll challenge you
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: one day and say, hey man, we gotta finish strong
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: or and then the next day everything we gotta be fast,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Like all right, we go Like some days he'll switch
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: up practice on it like completely different, like we'll see
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: the schedule, but we'll go out there and have like
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: say things is mind bracket on here? But no next thing,
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: you know, we'll go out there and go straight to
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: mama drill like we did today, like everybody know, like
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: my bracket. That's hitting, Like we gotta go out there
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: and hit like you gotta block something and yeah that's
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: DNS linebackers.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: You like you getting the whole, the whole now, but
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: you're blocking linebackers. It depends on what play better.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: It depends on what play it is like, it depends
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: on it depends Yeah, I got a little better this
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: year last year I was kind of hesitating. I wasn't,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: but now I stick my nose and now I catch
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: them off guard, Like I gotta go in there quick
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: and just let him know I'm there and then like
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: try to hold him up. But once they know it's
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: me on them, then they'll just take me and be
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: like move.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: I'll be like okay, like you know, I mean I'm
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: on their way long enough, yeah, getting the long enough.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: He hit the premier. You can't get there now. But
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: I mean I did my jobs. I mean yeah, I
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: mean it's yeah. He just challenged us like just being
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: the best version of ourselves every day. Like he's tough.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: You're gonna see it, like, like you like us as
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: an offensive, we're killing this defense. He's a defensive coach.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, if we're killing this defense, you can
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: look back at him. He get mad, like okay, you
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: think they do this again? Like the next day, that
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: same play we try to run is boxed up. She
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: was like, all right, he's a script that rift that
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: you script that He.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Back there all like yeah, nah nah.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Now we're finna go over there and tell coach Stein,
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: you know, let's call this because we know he's gonna
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: play seahawk here. Okay, we're gonna run past him and
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: he gonna get he gonna get living.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: But it's they.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Feel like the players are like on offense play against
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: coach Lantic because like you know, like he he can
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: call it coach tads over there call and like were
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: playing against them, also were playing against the player. But
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: like his like his creativeness on defense is so real,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: like he'll he'll show you one coverage, then it's a
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: whole different coverage.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: Every time we checked, they checked.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: If we don't check, they still checking, like they gonna
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: key like safe in some emotion. They gonna keep me
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: the whole time. They gonna bump it or push it
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: like they gonna they're gonna show something. They gonna they
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: gonna show like they're finna drop eight, but bring three
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: people that we can't block, and uh now it's just sat.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Now we're gonna look back and be like where you
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: get that from?
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Bro?
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: Like like is that even real? Like like it's it's
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: stuff like that.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: But he's he's a consistent like challenger, like he gonna
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: challenge you with everything, and he don't care how big
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: the challenge is.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Let's see if you can do it.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: You want to say you want to get here, all right,
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: let's see what you got what it takes to be there.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: So that's what we like about him.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Has Bro, thank you for this conversation. This is a
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: lot of fun. You brought a lot of good energy,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of good the conversation. But I appreciate it, Bro.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you sharing the stuff in the beginning, and
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: it's it's really cool to see where you're at now.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: And all though up to you this year, Bro, you
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: guys do well. Unless you played Nebraska, I hope we
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: played Dylan Gabriel bro. First question, getting permission to wear
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: number eight? It was that a conversation with Marcus. I
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: played with Marcus for a year in uh in Tennessee
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: and then a year in Vegas. He put yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I was after demarct after he put us on Sushi
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Pure last night for the spot to eat as he
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: said that was his favorite was his favorite spot.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: But what was it like, Yeah, purple rice, it's a
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: real deal.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Getting permission from him to wear a numbreak? Was that
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: was that an ordeal or was that just a sole conversation?
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: It was an Ordeal. I think it was just more
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: out of respect, uh, coming from the Islands, Like he's
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: the guy we you know, kind of looked up to,
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: and he kind of set the stage for all the
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: quarterbacks coming up, not only quarterbacks, players in general. And
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: you know, I wore aid at Oklahoma, but once I
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: came here, you know, I kind of told the coach.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: I was like, hey, you know, how to respect you know,
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: I'll probably wear you know, a new number or something
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: like that. And then I don't know, just kind of
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: rethought it because Landy said some something cool about how
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: I like, how special that would be and ended up
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: texting them and then next thing, you know, uh just said, hey,
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: can I wear it? You know, just want to get
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: his uh okay, And then once I did, it's it's special.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: So he was like he Marcus was the guy I
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: bet when you're you're coming up watching him play at Oregon, yeah, you.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: Uh you had him, You had Tao, yep, we had Mantai, him,
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: DeForest Buckner who played here kind of a lot, even
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: you know Hawaii guys as well, kind of who we
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: you know, looked up at u Ah. But yeah, all
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: in all, Marcus was definitely the you know HEADHUNTERO.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: So take us through your recruiting journey. You've obviously had
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: a fascinating one. You've you've bounced around. I want to
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: say I.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Was reading when you were you did?
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: You were? You committed the Army. I was committed Army.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Go visit somewhere else? Do you commit? You visited a
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: couple of schools, I think bigger schools, and then end
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: up at UCF. Talk about your recruiting journey coming out
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: of high school.
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so coming out, I didn't have anything really. I
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: had the three academies and University of Hawaii. I just
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: wanted to, you know, try something new and go off
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: the island. So funny enough. Jeff Monkin, who's the head
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: coach at Army and who still is, was my dad's
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: GA at the University of Hawaii when he was playing quarterback.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: Coach Kenny new Montalolo was my dad's backup and Paul
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: Johnson was my dad JOC. So the trip option, you know,
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: my dad was all around it. But that connection kind
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: of happened. I visited Army, ended up committing in the
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: summer prior to my senior year. Then kind of season
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: went on. I love I love it, you know, I
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: love this story. But you know, I remember watching a
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: game in Army only through it three times, and I
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: just you know, looked at my dad and I was like, man,
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: I think I really want to throw the ball and
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: you know, play ball a different way. So ended up,
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: you know, de committing, uh kind of like you know,
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: towards the back end of my high school, my senior
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: year of high school, and then you know, oddly enough,
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: things just started firing off and everyone jokes around, they
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: think it's because, uh there's a passing record in Hawaii,
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: and I ended up beating TUA, and Georgia obviously was
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: playing Bama, and uh another full circle moment. Coach Landing
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: was at Georgia, but Georgia offered me UCF and USC
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: and kind of went on those three visits right before
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: that December signing day and all three of them said, hey,
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: you got to be here in January, and I really
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: wasn't prepared for that. So I ended up taking you know,
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: four online classes within a two week period, signed with UCF,
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: and then I was there on January third. So it
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: just it all happened really fast. I'm blessed and very happy.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: It did, but definitely a funny timeline.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, was there friction when you were decommitting from army
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: with your with your old man.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: There wasn't you know, their family and they always will be,
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: you know, just with that connection with my dad and
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: then coach Sean Satnio. He's another guy that you know,
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: I still keep in contact with who's just been you know,
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: really that guy who's also come from Hawaii and tries
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: to look out for Hawaii players. So when I had that,
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: I was, you know, not not bugged at all. They're
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: very kind. Then obviously knew that, you know, I was
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: going to go play at a different school.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Why UCF over Georgia and USC.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: At the time, I just wanted to play, you know,
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: I've always kind of put that at the forefront of
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: what I want to do. I want to go play
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: the game, so I love to do And you know,
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: not saying I couldn't have played at Georgia or USC,
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: It's just at the time UCF was having an open
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: competition and I was like, Hey, as long as I
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: got a shot or a chance, like an opportunity, then
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: I willna go make it happen. And at the time,
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: justin Fields and Jake Fowler are still at Georgia. J T.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: Daniels was still a freshman at USC Don't saying I'm
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: not saying I'm old. I'm just saying that was at
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: the time, and you know I looked at, you know,
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: at UCF, my buddy Mackenzie Milton was injured that year
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: and they said, you know, there's open competition. So I
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: was like, let's go do it.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you had a couple of good years at UCF
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: were you were you injured?
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: I did my third year.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Your third year before you hit the portal, right, yep.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: I got injured that third game against.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Talk about that.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Was there a lot of doubt creeping in on coming
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: back from the injury, being able to you know, move
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: on put another season together.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: I think it was my first injury in college, real injury,
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: like I at fractured my color bone, which i'd done
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: in high school. You know, kind of one of those
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: lizard deals where you just kind of let it heal
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: back up and then you know, get the strength back.
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: But I think at the time I was so you know,
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: fixated and said, on, you know, maybe this could be
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: the year to you know, go and do it. Right,
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: And I think God has a great way of kind
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: of keeping you present and humbling you, but also just
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: kind of the storm I needed right in that time
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: period of my life. And I think it changed the
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: trajectory of my life as well. You're just seeing different
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: life in a different perspective, you know, being sidelined for
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: the first time, and in my career, you know, playing
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: as a freshman in high school on varsity, playing all
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: four years and then end up starting again at UCF
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: as a freshman. So that third year, I feel like
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: just gave me a different perspective and really changed my
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: outlook on just being a good teammate in a different way.
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: And I think that's helped me. You know, all up
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: until this point.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: When did you know you're going to hit the portal?
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: I had a clue kind of like that last two
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: weeks of the season, you know, when I got injured,
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: I was just focused on getting healthy, trying to get
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: strength back, and then I remember talking with my family like, Hey,
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: what are we going to do? You know, like what's
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: kind of the next step? And I hadn't really thought
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: about it, and just as the season went on, I
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: just felt like, you know, I wanted to be challenged.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: I wanted to try something new and being an offense
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: that could potentially push me to continue to get better.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: How to Oklahoma another crazy story. So yeah, definitely recruiting stories.
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: I've got a bunch of them. But coming out of
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: UCF when I was transferring, I've been ed ole Miss,
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: where my OC prior OC at UCF, coach Levy was
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: at He went to ole Miss my first year. After
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: my first year at u CF. Then after that visit,
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: I felt like I was going to go to ole Miss,
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: but Coach len Levy end up going to Oklahoma. When
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: that happened, took a visit to u C l A
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: and at the time really loved it, you know, and
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: wanted to make it happen. So I ended up pulling
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: the trigger and committing to UCLA. As that time went on,
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: situations as that time went on, though, we just had
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: conversations and I just really wanted to know what I
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: was walking into, not knowing if DTR was coming back
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: or not. You know, the quarterback room kind of had
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: like a kind of unknown and you know, I was
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: telling coach, hey, I just want to know what's kind
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: of going on when I'm walking into. They couldn't clarify
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: that and you know, kind of keep it up front
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: and honest, which is totally fine. I just you know,
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: more clarity and they kind of just know what you're
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: walking into. I think that is not much to ask,
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: but kind of up until that last date January third
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: is when school started and I was supposed to be
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: on a flight. Coach Levy ended up calling me January
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: second and just said Boomer, and I'm like, what do
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: you mean, coach? You know? And I don't know. After that,
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: I ended up not taking the flight, not jumping in
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: the class, and then I was a Sooner.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: So who is a Sooner? Is that? Is that coach
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: still there?
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: He is not now he's at the head coach a
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: Mississippi State.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, is that the reason you jumped in the
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: portal again and you end up here?
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: It is?
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: But that recruiting story.
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: So another time I think, you know, just God has
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: been able to keep me present is I was again
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: fixated on the NFL and like this is my last year.
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: I had a very I guess, clearview vision of what
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: I was going to do.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: But you're saying going play at Oklahoma and then go
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: to the next level.
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: And when that happened, I think everyone was under the
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: same impression, right, you know, the or the school players, coaches,
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: all that. So the preparation prior to that, I think
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: was the same for everyone. So, you know, going into
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: that season, I felt like, you know, we were doing
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: damn good. We had two bumps in the road that
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: definitely have you know, affected us, you know for the
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: college football playoffs, but up into that last two games
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: again where kind of conversations started to happen. I got
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: my draft grade back, which was seven round undrafted, and
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: I was like, dang, you know, I felt like in
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: all you know, categories of whatever quarterback play it could be,
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: you know, I felt like I was top five and
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: I guess that's what I was presented. And when I
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: got that, you know, seven round undrafted, I was like,
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: you know what, I couldn't sleep at night, know when
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: I had extra year that I could maximize and get
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: better and have a guaranteed year of football, right and
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: I don't want to say guaranteed, but at least the
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: year to play. And I just wanted to maximize that.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: And like I said, with everyone having that preparation, of
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: me not being back there for another year. I just
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: felt like it was right and something that you know,
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: I was excited about. Transferring is not easy, but it's
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: just kind of how my journey went.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: And do you with the coach going to Mississippi State?
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Was that if he had stayed, would you say that
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: you'd still be at Oklahoma or everything was just kind
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: of like you were saying you were kind of the
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: preparation was around you leaving.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: So it almost just felt like the end of the chapter. Anyway.
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: I think it was a mixture. Okay, I think it
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: was a mixture. I guess we'll never know, right if
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: he did stay, But yeah, I think it was the
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: perfect storm of where I needed to be and you know,
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: the path that God has set out for me. I
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: just trusted it, and you know I'm here now and
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: should his big blessings.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: How was the psyche when you get the draft grade
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: of seventh undrafted? Because I'm assuming, like, you know, you're
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: excited about something, you're preparing for something, and then see
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: something that's kind of like below what you thought it
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: might be like take us through us through those moments.
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, I understand it. You know it's the facts,
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: So I'm not gonna you know, when I'm presented that,
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, that's just what it is, right, right,
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: and whether I like it or not, that's the facts.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: And you know, I had to live with it and
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: make a decision based off of that, and she was
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: just not the best feeling. You know. I think you
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: when when as a player you produce and you know,
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: put your play on the field, I feel like you're
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: you know, your confidence and what you put out there
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: is something that you are proud of, you know, and
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: want to or not proud of. Right, Yeah, but I
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: think that, you know, when I got that back, it's
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: just it was disappointing, but also I went straight to
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: making a decision and live on it.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: How do you identify organ as being the right place
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: for you?
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: H Three things? You know, offensive fit, uh, you know,
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: guys around me, and then just being able to win.
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: You know, I want to be in the big games,
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: big time moments, and at you know, at this point
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: in my career, I just feel like winnings everything, you know,
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: that's that's all I want. How can I serve my
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: teammates in the best way and lead and bring you
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: know that positive energy every day. You know, I feel
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: like everything we have here is is top notch, right,
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Living living off nice facilities, living off the.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: Land is real, you know. And and then talent isn't
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: you know, our our issue. You know, it's going to
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: be putting it all together and seeing, you know, how
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: well we can connect and execute at a high level.
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: I think every team that's done it and one has
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: done those two things.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: How do you feel coming in after bow knicks? I
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: feel good him.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I watched you know him play a bunch and
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: I think you know, as seasons go on and you
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: definitely are able to see you know, quarterbacks playing at
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: a high level, and you know new Baut was doing that.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: I think that's what made organ such an attractive place,
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: is just how they let the quarterback go play and
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: the types of throws you're able to make. And then
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: also you know seeing you know, obviously when there's success
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: at a program, you know that it takes a bunch
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: of people. You know, as a quarterback, you understand that.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: And what he's been able to do is super impressive.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: The talking about the portal, the portal gets such like
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: a different mix of reviews, right, good, bad, whatever, whatever,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: and whatever opinions are out there, you seem to use
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: the portal well to your advantage. What do you feel
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: like you've learned or what experience you've acquired just being
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: able to go to different spots. You you grow up
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: in Hawaii, you go to UCF, then you go to
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: the middle of American Oklahoma. Now you're all the way
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: up in the top corner of Oregon. What do you
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: feel like you've learned with the portal and what's taught you.
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: I've learned change is hard, but it can be really
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: good for you. Being uncomfortable is the only way to
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: create growth. And I've also learned that you know, doing
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: it for the right reason.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: I feel like I've seen it go both ways. I'm
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: very blessed. Like I said, I trusted my heart, trusted people,
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: and that kind of has led me to be around
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: programs that have been successful but also can reproduce that consistently.
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: And I just trusted, you know, I trusted my decision
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: and kind of just was where my feet, you know, were,
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: And you know that's why I'm so you know, focus
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: on right now and where I'm at. And yeah, it's
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: it's interesting though, you know, as a guy who's.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: You're kind of part of the first wave too of
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: it all.
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: I am. I joke around as a COVID baby, I
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: was an ANIO baby, as transfer portal baby. So I've
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: seen it all. But I think I've just adapted and
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: accepted the fact of this what it is. But also
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: there's beauty in both sides of everything you know, of
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: of any you know, good or good and bad. You know,
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: I think just because it's new, that's why it's hard
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: to accept. Rit Like free agency in the NFL. I
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: think NFL fans are a lot more used to change
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: new quarterbacks, new plays, players, new coaches, you know, new coaches, business. Yeah,
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: And that's that's what's hard too. Is college football is.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: So the school spirit, man, Yeah, cool spirit.
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: Authentic, and I still believe it's it still is. I
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: just think it's so new. I think ten to fifteen
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: years from now will be a lot more used to it.
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: And just how coaches leave. You know, there's happy fans,
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: there's mad fans, But at the end of the day,
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: someone new will be in there and don't like it, you.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Know, yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: With all the experience you feel like you've acquired and
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: like wisdom you've gat from it.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Is there anything you look back on that you would
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: have done differently?
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: And maybe like, obviously you're here so the answer would
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: be no, right, But is there stuff you look back
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, that was a learning lesson?
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: There?
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: I do. I think a lot is in football and
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: trying to get better. I think situational football is something
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: that I wish as a young quarterback I really focused
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: on and understood. I sometimes wish that my approach at
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: a younger age was to listen to the words rather
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: than the tone, right, and passion is huge in football,
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: but how do you listen to the message and be
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: coachable and understand that while like I said, emotions are flying, right,
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: I think as I've gotten older, I've you know, been
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: able to just cut that.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Out, compartmentalize a little bit.
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: Better exactly, and just you know, stay even killed.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Not be pissed on. The coach is getting your ass.
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: That's for sure, and play each play individually, you know.
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: I think that's something that a lot of people struggle
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: to do, is do the easy things really at an
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: elite level, and that's what I strive to do. You know,
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: execute at a high level, play each play individually, and
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: then just try to win every rep because you know,
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: if you look at it like that, it'll it'll hopefully
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: be a good part at the end, the ending in
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: a touchdown. But I just try to do that. It's
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: easy to say, hard to do right.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Always a work in progress.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: What have you enjoyed most about Coach Landing in this
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: coaching staff since coming here.
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: It's it's been refreshing. I think a young coach who
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: gets it and is challenging us, but also not demeaning,
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: not saying I've had that experience in my time.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Just feel like any player, like I've had coaches that, hey,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: you kind of funked me up a little bit mentally
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: in some of these comments.
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: For sure. I think it's it's it has been refreshing,
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: you know. I think he's very innovative in the way
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: he thinks, whether it's scheme or even just in how
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: we practice what we do, how we do what we do.
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: I think that's very important because a lot of people
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: are doing the same things but trying to find your edge,
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: and I think that he's done a really good job
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: of that. Just within my four months of being here.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: So he seems fiery.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: Bro.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: He's just got that passion.
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: That he just I don't want to swear, but he's
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: got some ship to him.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: He's got some ship.
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: You gotta you gotta enjoy that. And you know, having
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: a coach that's willing to get get in there with you,
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: whether it's running, lifting, like he's sweating that practice, he's
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: in it. You know, Like I feel like that is uh,
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: you know, empowering feeling knowing that your coach is you know,
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: being a part of what you're doing.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: Uh, not having levels, right, a hierarchy, I guess, right.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Like talking down to players whatever it is, or in
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: it with you.
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: For sure.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: We had tez On Tess was saying he's the drippiest
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: athlete in the game, and he also alluded to our
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: quarterback things.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: He's drippy, but he's not.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, do you have any you care to comment
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: on on his comments?
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: I would beg to disagree with him. He's he's a
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: one sleeve. What he does is I think very basic.
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: He executed Nobody executes it at a high level. That's
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: what I'll give him, right, So, yeah, he's got the
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: one leg sleeve. You know he'll go white, black, green, yellow,
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: so he mixes it up. He does the arm sleeve
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: as well on the same side. I'd love to see
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: some altered you know, alternatives of you know, one each side,
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: maybe a sleeve on the left, sleeve on the right.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: That's what he said too, He said, I like to
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: go all one side and then he'll he says he'll
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: be tattoos.
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: Did he say it's because of the tattoos?
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Phil he showed.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: He showed us his Instagram after talking about Yea, I
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: went it this way, so you can see my tattoos.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: On the right leg.
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: He'll change the visors. He does gloves, he does different cleats.
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: But to me, I feel like swag is more of
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: an energy. It's more of a vibe. Right, Like there's
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: some too, you know, a guy that doesn't really wear
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: much and right can you know, rock out. But there's
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: also something to being able to swag out at a
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: high level. But I would just say his competition is
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: really not that much on our team in the receiver room.
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: I say that because it's either I mean, what can
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: you really do leggings, maybe some arm sleeves, right, you
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: can mix match some gloves, but I think it's execution.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: He's talking mouthpiece. He's like, hey, this is a visor
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: pre game. This is I take the visor all for see.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: He's actually, you can see the color in my mouth.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: He's yeah, he seems very calculated with.
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: His style that I feel like that's too much.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: He pours a lot into it.
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: I respect it, though, I respect it. I think the
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: what he executes at a high level, the like sleeve
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: he doesn't mess it up, you know, I give him that. Yeah,
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: good colors, he cuts the you know, the left leg. Yes,
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: the tattoos, showing cleets are always at a high level.
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: But up top, I feel like he's he could do better.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Another question we asked him, you know, one of the
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: first questions that you get asked when you get in
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: the NFL is like, what'd you do with your first page?
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: What was your first favorite purchase being in the n
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: I L world? What's been a uh you know one?
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: He gave us three of his favorite purchases, with the
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: with the with.
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: The n I L chain, his watching his.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Change, watching other watch. What kind of car?
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: What kind of car is he driving around? I think
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: it's a B MW okay yea or no? I don't
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: want to say an MG. I don't know, but I've
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: seen him in one, so it might be a white MG.
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: But gosh, I don't know. He's he's been in three
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: different cars since I've been here.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Here.
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: Do they judge for you lease in the car? Do
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: they judge? You know? Like, how does that work in
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: the NFL? Like if he's leasing it, what if he's
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: what if he's renting the car for like a month? Yeah?
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: If if you're in with the dealership, like you're, you know,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: you're in a different ball game for sure, You're you're
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: in a great spot.
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: Do what do you know what I drive? No, nobody's
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: told you what you drive? Chrysler white mini van, automatic,
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: automatic doors, two touch screens.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: And cousins till Kirk drove this abysmal van around. He
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: might still but for the five.
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: Years, good insurance, super efficient, it's hybrid, so just in
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: case I do miss out on gas, I got electricity
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: and then uh, it can fit seven people eight if
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: you want to use that middle side, like I mean,
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: that's illegal.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: But but if you get in a pinch you need eight,
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: you gotta make it happen.
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you can make it happen you make it around
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: the street.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Would you would you say your minivans your favorite purchase?
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: I would say looking ear rings in right now?
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: Oh dude, you guys even beat me up about the earrings. No, no,
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying Amazon fifteen ninety nine. I got a
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: twenty pack. Yeah, you got the Change real Change reel though,
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: but yeah, the earrings are are Amazon.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Sorry, budget shopping on a budget. So favorite purchase,
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: favorite purchase.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: King bed nice. I try to purchase things that you'll
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: use every day, So.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, purchase huge.
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: So you know, me and my girlfriend used to have
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: a full bed. It was tough, you know, but once
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: we got the king bed, it's like she's on a
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: whole another island, you know, and you get your space.
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: So that was huge. Helps me with sleeping, and there's
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: something to just being able to brand. It's not a
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: sleep number, but I don't know, it's it's a little fancy.
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: It's a little.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Fancy you sleep every night.
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: Simpopedic neck pillow. Have you guys ever seen those?
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: Man? I don't.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: I don't mesh well with them just because I don't
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: really stay in one spot.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: I sat on my back, I go to my side.
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: You can turn on them. It's it's still maybe there's
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: a new there's maybe there's on Amazon on my Amazon. Yeah, okay,
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: I find everything and then h a couch comfort it
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: is you're gonna use every day. You seem to be
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: a little and then let me give you a fun one.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: I didn't really buy anything crazy a dog? Could I
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: see a dog?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: What kind of dog? Winston? He's a miniature Snauzer. He's golden.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: I can you know, I'll pull a test.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: How much was the dog? Oh? I don't want to
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: say four.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: I'm not even gonna because people are gonna that's a judgment.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you get you get a pure breed man,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: you get him from a breeder too.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: Like here's here's Winston.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: It's a cute little boy. He's Winston.
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  Speaker 5: He's able to travel. I'm gonna we're teaching him how
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: to stay so that when I throw he can just
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: be in the throwing sessions.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: And was he more than three brand?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: He was?
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: He was.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Gosh, that's alright. People love their animals, man, I know.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: I mean I spent we spent a few thousand on
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: my Change your life. Though he's changed my life for
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: the word. She's changed my life for the worst. I'm
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: just kidding. What happened is we had a kid. We
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: had a kid, and he and she went down in
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: the pecking order.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: That's fair.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: And they're and they're just stubborn animals, bro. Like you
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: can't get a bulldog to do nothing. Sleep, yeah, sleep,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: and their butttholes exposed, so they'll just fucking far. They fart,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: but they got what's that the little you know, No, no, no,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: not that.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: What about cherry eye? Does that happen?
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, where they get a little
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: fucking she'll be like non on something. Her eye will
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: be like popping out with bit Hey hey, cut that
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: ship out.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: It's real.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: But it's like their anal glands or like they got
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: some seepage that comes out of there. Antally all dogs
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: have it, but most have a tail. But since HER's
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: is exposed, sometimes we get on the furniture and you'll
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: smell it.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: You'll just be in the worst mood, bro, dude.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: That's tough. Yeah, pumbling moment, they'll wiping your dog's butt.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I would have to wipe her out.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: I mean every time she ship but once we got
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: on farmer's dog and this is no no, no free
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: no free shot. That's a farmer's dog. But once we
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: got on farmer's dog, it's good health. I'm talking she
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: lost weight. She's a little athlete now. I mean Gary,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: you guys saw her back when she was at her fattest,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: getting patchy like on the back that she would like
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: lose your hair and stuff, dander and ship just from
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: like eating the kibble.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: We get him on farmer's dog, which is like real food.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: Dude, That's that's what you talk about. Feeling your body
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: with the right stuff.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta feel that Ferrari man first bulldog.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: It's true.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: Boys, we got anything else for Dylan.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: Speaking about bodies, I got a question, how's your body
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: after years in the NFL?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: This is it's what a post NFL body looks like.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: I'm saying. Is it like do you wake up and
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: you're like, do you feel better?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: I'll say this, I've had a lot of problems with
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: my low back and this is nothing new to the
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: audience watching right now.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: I've been vocal about it.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: You think it's a squatting what do you think the
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: heavy squad?
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: I don't squat anymore. I don't love my spine anymore.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: But I don't think it's I don't think it was
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: like all the years of wearing tear doing that. I
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: think at times like you will sacrifice some form to
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: be heavy on the weight, Like I look back on
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: that and you want solid form, because I do think
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: backsquading is good for you.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: But where my back is at currently, it's not. I honestly,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think I can do that much just because
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: it hurts.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: It bothers me, Like I'll I'll go out on the
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: golf course and I'll be on the couch for a
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: week just from torquing, like I've been working on it.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing a doc right now. Shoulders, knees are okay, niece.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: I'll get some inflammation every now. I tore my PCO,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: but I'll get some inflamation every now and then, But
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: my knees are all right. I would say overall, I'm decent.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: I'm on the I'm on the come up right now, legit,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: I'm on the come up. I'm working with this doc
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: right now. He's out of Brentwood, I like, and he's
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: got me going. He's got me doing some really good
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: stuff for my little back.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: Is that the same for some of your peers that
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: have played in the NFL.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: There are some guys that are really healthy.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: There are some guys, but it's more like the bigger
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: guys are kind of beat down a little bit more.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're a year quarterback, I feel like you're
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: gonna be You get to wear the jersey at practice.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: You don't get touched, That's what I was saying, Like
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: in the spring, gosh, we like actually are able to
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: like get healthy if you did yeah yeah, yeah, and
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: your body can get strong and I guess not beat
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: it up.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there are some things, but I don't know how
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: familiar with barstool. We had a combine recently, and if
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: you watch the tape, I mean it was a thirty
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: five yard dash. I ran a three wolves it three six,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: so I'm still was it the fastest?
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, you know, Okay.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: How much did you weigh in the NFL and then.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: Low two thirties right now to seventeen that's not bad?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So does it feel better? Does what losing
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: the weight?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: I mean I didn't really.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't feel like I had to fluctuate that much,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: like I would have to like keep weight on, but
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: it didn't fluctuate for me that much. But this is
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: kind of like it feels a little more natural. I'm
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: not working out as hard. That's the beautiful thing. Whenever
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: you get done playing, you're kind of like you wake
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: up one morning, you're like, why am I doing all
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: this hard ass shit? And they you just get to
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: kind of take care of yourself a little bit. A
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: little bit, Yeah, go meet.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: The right people, maybe put a couple things in your body.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: You shouldn't have any secret sauce, like okay on Mondays,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: this is what I used to do or on you know,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: throughout your week, Like, is there any secret sauce to
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: like in the NFL, You're like, this is my go
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: to like I had like for me massages and ice
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: tubs are like I need it, you know. But if
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: you had any secret sauces, it could even be in
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: the film room.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: It could be what I could put you else some
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: game in the film room, but secret sauce. Bro I
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: feel like I was one of those guys I always
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: did so much to why I didn't actually know what
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: was helping me or not, whether it be supplements like food, massages, saunas,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: cryo culta. Like you're like with a group of guys, right, Like,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a couple of guys like you rock
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: with there are kind of more on your routine with things,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: or there's a level you're like, oh, I kind of
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: want to go hang with them because they're doing some
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: things that I necessarily haven't done. You kind of like
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: have this little posse that rolls around, but we do
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: so much stuff to where I don't necessarily know exactly
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: what would help me out all the time.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Like it's like, I'm sure you do.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: You're like living on the norma text after practice, you're
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: doing all these different things. For me, I always felt
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: like if I could win my morning, I would be
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: set up better for practice and the rest of the day.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: Like try and get ahead right on your checklist.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: Right like if you're hitting the cold water, if you're
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: doing things that has you do stuff for the day
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: because you know, if you're kind of in a mood
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: or you're kind of like a little sluggish and you
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: know it's either from the day before or you didn't
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: do the right thing in the morning, you snooze a
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: little too much. That's usually where I get behind the
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: eight ball, because then I get in my own head
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: about it because I just you know, you like verbally
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: beat yourself up, like you I know, if I do X,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: Y and Z in the morning, I'm gonna be set
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: up better for.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: The rest of the day.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: It'd be like set the tone. Set the tone. That
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: would be the juice is set the tone win the morning,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: that's the key. And in the film room, like you know,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: if we get some time, we can get in there
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: and dabble. But I'm sure you see it way differently
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: than I do.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: Same. I'd say the quarterback of the defense, right.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, but you got you know, quarterback brains.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: You guys got a lot of different animals going on.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: I got it.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: One more go ahead.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: Family balance, life work balance right or work life balance, yeah,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: I guess in the NFL. And then like being able
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: to come home. Let's say you had a bad day
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: or a good day, and like you got the kids
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: at home. I know your wife's probably holding it down right, right,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: but even the dog, like how did you You're right? Like,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: how did you balance that even on good or bad days?
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: After a game or like let's say you're tired like,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: how did how did that work?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: Fortunately, we have a two year old she just turned
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: to last week. We didn't have her, Like I fortunately
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: that I wasn't playing when we had her. Oh, So, honestly,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: I think knowing that knowing what fatherhood and parenting entails
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: now I have no clue like how the boys did it,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: or just being away and stuff and then coming back
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: and your wife's your wife's holding the fourth down and
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: just the parenting, the partnering that we kind of do
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: with each other with rue you're second man. If she
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: had to do all of this solo, that would be tough.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: So honestly, like shout out significant others, Yeah.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Shot out significant others.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: But my advice would be honestly now that I'm on
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: the other side, because it's hard for us because we're
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: everybody selfish, but I feel like our ambitions really take
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: over on like, hey, I'm trying to get here, I'm
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: trying to.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Be the best in the game.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: None of that doesn't mean that the person at home
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: or who you go home to isn't trying to be
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: the best of what they do. So when you come home,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: it's not bringing your work home and everything else with
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: it like, Hey, I had a bad day, Can I
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: just get a minute?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: I would personally, I would say.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: Like, you're sitting down with your wife's significant other, whatever
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: it is, and you kind of plan out what your
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: priorities are, like if you're somebody who needs an hour,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: have that expectation set before it happens. That way, you're
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: not in a reactive state coming home, right. So that
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: would kind of be my advice because there really is
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: no like coach Lanning was talking about it when he
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: was in Down, but there's not. There really isn't no
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: such thing as like work life balance. It's like prioritize,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: especially in football, but it's prioritized and then when that
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: priority comes, you got to pour into it. So if
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: it's being a husband when you come home, if it's
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: being a dad when you come home, and you know
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: that's the expectation, then it's like you got to figure
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: out a way to compartmentalize and learn that you're leaving
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: everything else outside the door whenever you get home.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: That'd be my game for you, bro.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: And then sorry, I got another one where.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: Hey this is this is this is great.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: So let's say for young high school guys coming up right,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: because I always get this question, but I'm like, I
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: feel like NFL guys could answer this even better because
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: you had it, let's say, at the highest pressure as
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: well as probably the biggest marketing deals. I guess you
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: could say. But high school guys coming into college, right,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: how do they manage like that side of things, right,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: the marketing agents while playing and be able to have
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: a clear mind of like not mixing the two together, right,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: Because I feel like probably in your career, you probably
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: wore a bunch of hats, right, like setting up yourself
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: up for success posts football, absolutely while playing the game
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 5: while having family and trying to enjoy it all while
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: stand level headed. Right, yeah, man, So how did you,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: I guess, manage that as well, like the work side
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: of it, you know, with all those relationships.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: Well, now it's like high school going on to college. Like
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: that's a different animal. I was pre in IL era,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: so fortunately it was all ball and everything. Not that
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: it's not all ball, but you guys are obviously, you
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: guys are in a world now that you have to
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: your fast tracking to be an adult. You're you're bringing
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: in money that you would have never seen nor maybe
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: your family have never seen right. But what I'd say
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: is even back when I was giving you the advice
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: about like coming home and the work life balance, and
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: it all comes down to prioritizing. It's like, you want
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: to build the right team around you. You want to
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: know who's in charge of what. That way you can
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: free your mind of Okay, I want to focus on this.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: If this has stressing me out over here, how can
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: I have the right person in place to help me
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: manage that. It's legitimately, it's all about prioritizing, pouring into
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: those priorities, and learning to say no if things aren't
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: within those priorities. It's like the power of saying no
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: means you're saying yes to what you have prioritized to help.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: You know, because what I've learned about myself, like you
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: know you don't want to let I don't want I
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: don't like letting people down, so you might say yes,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: or you might over commit to things, or it's like, hey,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: I am juggling this out here, but I don't necessarily
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: have to help to help me out. It's like learning
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: again man prioritizing and having the right team around you
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: so that way you can be optimal as a football player.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: Have you seen it like affect players like rookies coming
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: in or like I know you say pre and ile
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: because like I'm let's say a vet in college football, right,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: I've seen it affect younger guys, you know, wherever I've been,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 5: I feel like on the same level in the NFL, Like,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: has that been a.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: Absolutely guess changing, Yeah, you know, like whether it's young
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: guys even like even guys who have had experience in
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: the league, like you guys that will stress about something
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: and then my mind or somebody else's mind, it might
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: be like, man, if he would just do X, Y
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: and Z, but at that time when they're stressing, then
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: vinedy you're kind of just like trying to listen versus like, hey,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: you should do this. But legitimately man and yeah, for
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: any high schooler's coming into college, I know it's a
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: different ballgame. But I was talking to I got to
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: talk to Nebraska last week, and I was I was
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: kind of telling them, like we've all seen the show
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: thirty for thirty Broke, where seventy to eighty percent of
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: the NFL guys can be bankerable within like three to
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: five years. We're talking about grown, mature men with families
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: that should have their head on straight right, and you know,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: you guys think you guys are just going to be
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: an exception because of nil like money and the same
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: things can happen. It's like if you don't take advantage
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: of the opportunity you have sitting here to a mass
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: at like it's a privilege getting to have these deals
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: and everything else.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: But you know, whether.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: You're in a quarterback or whether you get to be
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: in a spot to have certain people around you, it's
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: like letting those resources work for you and not against
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: you and feeling like I feel like a lot of
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: times guys might feel like they have their own answers
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: or whoever at home might be telling him you should
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: do X, Y and Z. I'm not saying those people
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: at home are wrong, but maybe there are times where
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: you can doubt the advice you're hearing and pour into
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: maybe the advice you're getting from your school, because ultimately
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: the school has to adapt the same way that players
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: are having to adapt. They need to pour into resources
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: that help you, that help set you guys up for
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: life after football, because there is an nile world and
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: you want to be if you're at Oregon. You want
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: to be a spot to where families come in and
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: you have every resource set up to be like, hey,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: your kid's coming here, he's going to make probably a
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: lot of money that the kids seen that the family scene,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: and we have things in place that makes it more
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: attractive to come.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: So they got to be correct as well.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: So there's as another level to it rather than just money,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: right right, And like even like what you're saying about
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 5: other people other voices, like that's real too, like having
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: good family members in your corner. Yeah, and I guess
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: feeding you the right stuff because what you hear ends
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 5: up be coming what you think and what you end
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: up doing down the road. Like I feel like that's
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: real too, of having good people in your life.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: Right on.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: In the NFL, right, like a lot of people are
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: probably telling you how to do what you should be doing.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: Everyone's got an idea for you, or they got an investment,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: they got something, And I'm telling you if you don't
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: have the right group around you or the right team
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: or the right people in place, it's like, hey, I
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: really appreciate this.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: This seems awesome.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: If you don't mind sharing this information, here's my guys
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: email and if they follow up and do all the
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: right due diligence, then it's handled through the business advisor, right,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: and it's like, Hey, I think this could be a
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: good gig for you, this could be an opportunity for you. Hey,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: maybe it's not, but if you love it, then maybe
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: we put a little bit here and there. But you
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: have people giving you advice, and then ultimately comes down
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: to those people who are trying to pitch you stuff.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: If they respect you, then they're going to respect your
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: process about it all.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: So again it's like.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: Or if they really want to work with you exactly,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: they'll go through They'll go through the right.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: Protocol to to do that, especially if you're given them
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: the time of day. I appreciate those questions.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: Man, it was well, I feel like, you know, you
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 5: asked me a bunch of questions to know me, right,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 5: But I feel like there's so much to learn from you,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: and you know, I don't get this opportunity of bunch
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: and I know we're doing it you know here, but no,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: I just appreciate that, you know, I think there's always
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: something you can learn. And that's what my whole two
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: things are, is like you're never too old or too
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: young to lead, and you're never too young or too
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: old to learn, so whatever, it.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: Is, absolutely and it's one of those things too.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: It's like I hate seeing young young athletes like not
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: take advantage of the resources that are all around them.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, we have such a head start just being
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: at a university like I got to go to Nebraska.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: You're in Oregon right now, but be at the universities
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: we've been at that have the resources to be successful
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: because one day it all ends. No matter what, I
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: hope you get play ten fifteen years, but one day.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 5: We How was that day for you?
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: It wasn't that difficult.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: I feel like I had about as smooth of a
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: transition as I.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: Could have envisioned in my head, Like did I want
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: it to end?
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: Did I want to continue to be able to play
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: at a high level or be seen as like, Okay,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: we'll give them an opportunity to be a starter Like
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: I was at that point in my career. I was
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: more of a backup special teams guy. And we started
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: fortunately started busting with the boys, so that ended up
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: beginning to take off to where it made it made
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: like hey, whenever the day, the moment does come like
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: it's all good because this is doing well, thank God,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: because the in light it was like year seven where
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: I was like a backup. I didn't get to play
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: a whole lot on the Titans, and I was like, fuck,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to be on a ninety man roster
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: again and make a fifty three versus being a guy known, hey,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: this will be a steady piece on a roster.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to reinvent myself and make the
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: team again. And I didn't. Necessarily. I was like overdoing that.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: And so fortunately building busting has helped, you know, build
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: it into a good outlet, and it's helped me allow
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: me to transition away from the game because a lot
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: of guys they don't They just don't get a call
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: again and they're training for and then it doesn't happen,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: and then if they if those I feel like.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: We all know that one guy who's still training and
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: we know that's no eligibility or you know what I mean,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 5: that's really not being but I feel like everyone knows
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 5: that guy that you're like gosh, you know what I mean.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, absolutely, or they're still taking opportunities to go
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: play and look, I know there's stories that motivate everybody
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: to allow them to make those choices, like, hey, I'm
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: going to go down to this league because you never know,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: you want tape, you want to get an opportunity. But
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: when they do have to come to that harsh reality,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: a lot of guys didn't you know, didn't fortunately like
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: take advantage of the time that they had while.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: They're in the league.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: It's like when you're in the NFL, Like while you're
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: an Oregon duck. I say it constantly, your jokes are funnier,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: you're better looking, and you can shake more hands. And
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: if you don't do those more, yeah, yeah, and you're
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: way more interesting. And if you don't take advantage of
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: those things now to set yourself up for the curiosities
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: you have outside of the game, the moment the game ends,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: it looks a little different. You look a little bit
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: more desperate, and then you you beat yourself up. And
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: then as men or athletes, like a lot of people,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: do you stay quiet about it. You don't talk about it.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: You're not vulnerable enough to share that a you might
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: be struggling. So it's like always one of those things
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: like why I've appreciated these questions. It's you sit there
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: and you hate to see athletes like, you know, piss
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: it away because they they were so obsessed with.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: Playing or not be president in the moment and create
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 5: relationships that are real, you know, like if you're going
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 5: to be in the building with this coach, you know,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 5: like enjoy that time together and get to know them,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: because that relationship might go even further to you having
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 5: a job down the road or you know, like nobody
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 5: I feel like in the moment thinks about that, right
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 5: we're thinking right now, And I think that's what's hard
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: for players too, right Like as players, everyone's telling us
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: focus on ball. You know, that's like that's all you
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: should be worried about, right, But then when you're done
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 5: with ball, they're like, what were you doing while you're
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 5: playing ball?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: To me, it's like such a contradicting like thot, like
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: how do we you know, help one another out and
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 5: like talk through it of like being able to have
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: conversation and figure out like how do you focus on
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: ball and still keep level headed while being able to
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 5: plan and set yourself up? You know?
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, because like you're saying it's not like this
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: poor mement victimized mentality, like hey, you feel sorry for
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: athletes for doing this. It's just like no, it's just
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: if you the individual had any idea the opportunity. You
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: had to know that we have this head start and
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: you're not taking advantage of it, like it's it ultimately
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: becomes on you. But it's like, bro, you have to
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: pour into whether it's relationships. You brought that up and
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: I was thinking, we have a common connection. James Stopson
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: was my strength and conditioning coach in Nebraska. Comes up,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: they tell you that I'm sure he preached you guys
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: the coffee bean story. Dude, be the coffee bean, not
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: the horrib boiled egg or the charrot that gets soft
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: in the boiling water. He said, the coffee bean that
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: sets the tone and makes the environment its own. He's
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: the best, though, bro. We I mean, I was texting
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: with him yesterday and my hey, Dylan Gabriel, like you
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: mind telling me some some stuff about him?
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: We hop on the phone.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: He had great things to say about you, and uh,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: but he's a relationship that I've kept since at Nebraska.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: He was at Vaanderbilt and I was at Tennessee. I'm
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: training there. I hated when he went to Oklahoma just
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: because that was the trained me in the offseason.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 5: Is that the rivalry too? Would you say back in
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: Oklahoma you weren't that far back?
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: I wasn't back in like the nineties when it was
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: like the Oklahoma Nebraska game and everyone salivated over it.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: It kind of switched around because I played in both
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: the Big twelve and the Big Ten, so it kind
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: of maneuvered.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: Right now, if Nebraska I played there, that's that place
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: is crazy.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Man. Did Nebraska try getting you out.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 5: Of the portal when Coach Frost was there?
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: Yes? Really?
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because when we were talking with Coach Rule, he
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: has brought your name up. So I'm thinking in my
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: head like, oh, I wonder if they were in the
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: running it all for for you?
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: No I should I didn't hear them, but no. It's
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 5: it's crazy though, But like I remember the first third
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 5: down there, dude loudest I mean, and I've played in
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: some environments, which yeah, it is probably up there with
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: the Ou Texas game, but like that first third down,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: like I remember seeing like looking at my receiver in
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: the eyes and he's like this, like you know, like
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: oh my.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: Well that sayings like you're yelling and you can't even
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: hear yourself.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 5: Dudde and like it's just I think the craziest stadiums
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 5: are when you can't see out of it. That to
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: me is like you're in it, you know, like I
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 5: don't know, I don't want to say like the old
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 5: Colisseum days or like you know, Badle or whatever, but
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 5: like when you can't see out, it's like, bro, you're
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 5: in this bitch, you know, like like you better come
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 5: ready to play.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: Man, So I remember that that first drive d in
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: of going seven like going up seven zero and we
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: had the first drive. We end up going three and out.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: But uh dude, it.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: Was did you beat us? You end up beating there?
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: I know, I just didn't know. I wait, which which
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: when you were with U c.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 5: F Oklahoma Oklahoma last year the year before, Oh ship,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: it's it's a team of all time, right.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: That was two years ago? Oh yeah, yeah, we were
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: the It's on yes.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: Oh no, that was the year before. That was at Ou.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 5: That was at you the year.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, it was what it was like it hand
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say in the first quarter is like
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: maybe fourteen all and then you guys just went unanswered.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: They were up seven zero, and then try we had
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: you guys in the sights like, oh that's good, but yeah,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: that's right.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: So I want to bring this up because I hope
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: somebody adopts this idea. I think you know, we're talking
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 5: about college football, right yeah. I think you get forty
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: of the biggest logos. They don't have to be good
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: right now, but the biggest logos, the most donors and
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 5: the biggest atmospheres. So you can put that all together
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: whatever whatever. I don't want to say any names because
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: you know, but you can imagine that, right. The bottom
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: five every year goes down to play with the let's
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: say the second division. The top five of that goes
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: back up. So it's ever changing, right, like you gotta
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 5: you want to be up there. You got to stay
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: up there, right, you play, let's say with the forty teams,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: you get ten games, it all alternates, that goes to
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 5: a seed in like a march madness. I don't want
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 5: to do the math. I don't want to butcher it,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 5: but that's probably five games, fifteen games, you get.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: You'd have to go to like break it down thirty
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: two teams in a bracket.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's say, okay, because the bottom five and.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: Two, Yeah, the bottom eight could potentially.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 5: So you could do a March Madness and have the
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 5: biggest atmospheres. You're playing coast to coast and it doesn't
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 5: affect other sports, so you can still have your you know,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: but that football league is like the big like the
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 5: Big forty. Let's say, and now you can play I
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 5: wouldn't that be cool? Wouldn't that be cool?
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: Like bottom eight kind of like an n I T
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: tournament and.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 5: You still you can still win, right, because there's some
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 5: merit to like what if you know, uh, a lower
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: level school gets in that top five and they killed
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 5: it that year, then they can come up for the year.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: You know, they earned it, right And uh, I don't know.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: I thought it'd be dope, you know. I thought, like,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 5: imagine if you could play coast to coast and play
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: all the great atmospheres like big noon kickoffs every week? Dude,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 5: you know, like what if we could have five big
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 5: noon kickoffs?
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: Like you're thinking big.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like everyone, players want it, coaches want it.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: Fans want it. Everyone wants the big atmosphere, so why
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: not recreate it?
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: Whatever the NC double A kind of folds at some
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: point to create some of these super conferences. I'm sure
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: the TV money and everything else will try to come up.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: With something as entertaining.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: For sure, for that dollar amount, it'll have to be
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 5: a you think it'll go into rep sharing and all
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 5: that kind of thing.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: I think so, I think so, honestly, why not? Right now?
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: You guys are in such a situation where it could
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: be free agency every day.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: So you guys are in an advantage places which is great.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: But great as far as like you know, how it's
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: going to continue to evolve, Like, yeah, they're gonna want
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: to come for something.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the a union that will be something. You guys
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: have a.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 5: Union yet we don't. Not yet we don't.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: I bet that's that'll be.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 5: Maybe bring it together, you know, yeah, maybe he's got it.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, I appreciate this conversation.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 5: Of course, thank you.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: You came with collections to appreciate.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: Gosh, I had to what's your Instagram? It's it's just
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 5: my name.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, Dylan Gabriel, Go follow the boy, Follow the boy,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: you got anything else going on?
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: I don't that people can.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 5: Oh. I do have an event coming up May third
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: at my high school. We're getting the football boys right,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: some new Nike uniforms down in Hawaii, down in Hawaii,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 5: new helmets, all for Hawaii helmets. We're revealing it. We'll
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: have videos, we'll have pictures. It'll be sweet. It'll be fun.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: That'll be fun.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: I appreciate it, Bro of course, thank you, thank you,