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- 0:24Speaker 1: Thank you.
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- 3:10Speaker 4: Crazy ain't the great nerdcore rap got into a dual
- 3:14Speaker 4: fate and i just pulled a trap card third rate
- 3:17Speaker 4: rappers with a fourth rate catalog destined for the shadow
- 3:20Speaker 4: realm y'all should never act I was so insidious that
- 3:23Speaker 4: I need an apprentice to master.
- 3:25Speaker 1: With the force. Peep the context in my sentence.
- 3:28Speaker 4: I'm like, this is just don't ask me what my
- 3:30Speaker 4: pen is.
- 3:30Speaker 1: They know that I'm the menace. Who are you kidding? Bitch,
- 3:33Speaker 1: I'm in this. Sweet to drive. Hot headed. Rhymes are
- 3:36Speaker 1: surely cold.
- 3:36Speaker 2: Tested.
- 3:37Speaker 4: You can never twist my metal like the jury. I
- 3:40Speaker 4: ain't never mad when I push it to the max.
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- 3:45Speaker 1: Oh, Susanna made it. I'm the one to crew. Congratulations.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Winners will provide protection. I'm here to.
- 3:50Speaker 4: Tell you who representing for the black.
- 3:53Speaker 2: Yeah. Who see the.
- 4:09Speaker 4: Leaders of discussion when the topic trends? Dissection's got the culture.
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- 4:15Speaker 4: Who got the type that you can miss it from
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- 4:22Speaker 4: viewership is mad nice. All these other shows don't seem
- 4:25Speaker 4: to cut it, that's a bad slice. Off the books,
- 4:27Speaker 4: with unscripted drills you can't write, no vampire.
- 4:30Speaker 1: But these interviews don't end right.
- 4:33Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the best part. Rhymes on Mandalorian, the
- 4:36Speaker 4: pen is made of Beskar. Starting a war with these stars,
- 4:40Speaker 4: you won't get far. This is the way you play
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- 4:44Speaker 1: So far removed from the drama, we don't know this one.
- 4:47Speaker 4: But won't hesitate to shed a light like a Patronus shine.
- 4:50Speaker 4: With misadventures, troubles at a disadvantage. Must be something in
- 4:53Speaker 4: the water, dip your toes. You can tell because you
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- 4:57Speaker 4: such a fine cast?
- 4:59Speaker 1: And if you try to box them in, they playing Minecraft.
- 5:01Speaker 1: And basically the sum made up like you define math.
- 5:04Speaker 1: This crew's the best and it figures like a line graph.
- 5:07Speaker 1: I'm Mary Ben like the words I do. I'm double headed.
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- 5:21Speaker 1: You are now tuned in. To Blur's Eye View. And
- 5:25Speaker 1: without further ado, we out. Yeah. All right, everybody. Thank
- 5:29Speaker 1: you for tuning in for another episode of Blur's Eye View.
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- 7:12Speaker 2: and Amazon Fire devices. I've been looking for the comics
- 7:16Speaker 2: or for the setup for tonight. And, oh, I sound low.
- 7:21Speaker 2: You said I sound low. I think I am low.
- 7:23Speaker 2: So I'm going to turn it up a little bit.
- 7:26Speaker 2: But let's do this right here. Okay, that should do it.
- 7:32Speaker 2: All right. It still might be a little low, but
- 7:34Speaker 2: we can fix that. In the meantime, let's get my
- 7:37Speaker 2: brother on the other side of the faction. Navy Martell,
- 7:42Speaker 2: what's going on?
- 7:44Speaker 5: Hey, man, what's going on, sir?
- 7:45Speaker 2: Not enough to holler and not enough to holler.
- 7:48Speaker 5: Man, you know what's funny is I had my sticker
- 7:51Speaker 5: on from voting, and it fell off because I had
- 7:55Speaker 5: to take off the hoodie. But I am proud to
- 7:58Speaker 5: say that I walked up in there and just had
- 8:01Speaker 5: that swagger. And the only thing that was missing was
- 8:03Speaker 5: the batwing doors as you're coming in. You know, like
- 8:05Speaker 5: you're going to a saloon in the old Wild West movies.
- 8:10Speaker 2: Hello, partner.
- 8:11Speaker 5: Am I here for the shindig? All right.
- 8:14Speaker 2: I didn't have any problems getting in in our area.
- 8:19Speaker 2: I didn't have to worry about any BS being involved
- 8:25Speaker 2: with it. It was actually quick in and out because
- 8:27Speaker 2: so many people turned out for the early voting and
- 8:29Speaker 2: so many people went early in the day that it
- 8:32Speaker 2: was just smooth, no problems, no extra issues or anything
- 8:37Speaker 2: like that. So shout out to everybody who did it.
- 8:43Speaker 5: I approve everyone who's able to do the early voting.
- 8:46Speaker 5: I'm more visceral, and I like to wait to the
- 8:49Speaker 5: day of where I feel like I'm having more of
- 8:53Speaker 5: an impact. Not saying anything against those of you who
- 8:55Speaker 5: early vote, okay? Don't come for me, okay? I'm just
- 8:56Speaker 5: saying it's my opinion, all right? Just my opinion. You
- 8:59Speaker 5: know what I'm saying? Me, on the other hand, I
- 9:01Speaker 5: like going on election day because if something goes sideways,
- 9:05Speaker 5: I can just literally say, hey, I was at the
- 9:07Speaker 5: poll station. I don't know what you're talking about. You know,
- 9:11Speaker 5: plausible deniability. You sound low. Yo, I think your setup
- 9:18Speaker 5: does not like you, sir.
- 9:20Speaker 2: What's going on?
- 9:21Speaker 5: Did you make your computer man?
- 9:23Speaker 2: Let's run the boards and I can do that.
- 9:25Speaker 5: I only have.
- 9:27Speaker 2: Two arms and three legs. That's all I can say. Hey,
- 9:32Speaker 2: everybody up in here.
- 9:33Speaker 5: What's going on, fam?
- 9:35Speaker 2: We got Bama in the building. Mal's in the building.
- 9:38Speaker 2: Mal's in the building.
- 9:39Speaker 6: What's going on, Mal?
- 9:40Speaker 2: Mal's in the building. Bama is in the building. EB1, yeah,
- 9:46Speaker 2: there you go. Yeah, even EB1 says, don't worry, I'm
- 9:49Speaker 2: working on it. But go ahead, Navy. Run the gambit
- 9:56Speaker 2: for a second.
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- 10:56Speaker 5: going to forget Whoopty Freaking Do, the mistress of the nails.
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- 11:10Speaker 2: How's that sound?
- 11:11Speaker 5: Oh, you sound magnificent, sir.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Okay, there we go. Why switch to the other mic?
- 11:17Speaker 2: Who knows? Who knows? It does what it is. It's
- 11:22Speaker 2: like a two-year-old. What can you tell a two-year-old? It's
- 11:24Speaker 2: not a damn thing. Yeah, go to your room.
- 11:27Speaker 5: Go to your room and leave us alone.
- 11:30Speaker 2: Nerd Entertainment's in the building.
- 11:31Speaker 5: What's up, man?
- 11:33Speaker 2: I'm glad you made it out. Don't worry. I got
- 11:38Speaker 2: it together. I can always count on extra crewmates to
- 11:45Speaker 2: point us in the right direction.
- 11:47Speaker 5: You already know. We got the lower deck crew over
- 11:49Speaker 5: here making sure that we stay on top of us
- 11:52Speaker 5: as we're on the bridge.
- 11:53Speaker 2: You never have to worry about me sending y'all on
- 11:56Speaker 2: suicide missions.
- 11:57Speaker 5: That's for sure. No red shirts up in this crew.
- 12:01Speaker 2: No red shirts in the crew. It's all leather jackets
- 12:05Speaker 2: and rebels and pirates.
- 12:07Speaker 5: Man, let's go. You know the ironic thing is this weekend,
- 12:12Speaker 5: this Friday, is the release of the new Magic the
- 12:15Speaker 5: Gathering set, which focuses on Star Trek.
- 12:21Speaker 2: All right.
- 12:22Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 12:23Speaker 2: It is. Yeah.
- 12:26Speaker 5: A lot of folks are learning to play Magic just
- 12:28Speaker 5: to get the cards and play. Oh, my gosh.
- 12:33Speaker 2: So it just says a lot. There's a lot of anniversaries. Yes.
- 12:40Speaker 2: And shout out to Tafari keeping up with everything.
- 12:44Speaker 5: When does that man sleep?
- 12:46Speaker 2: I don't think he does.
- 12:49Speaker 5: He's upside down in his room.
- 12:55Speaker 2: He comes in right when he sleeps.
- 12:59Speaker 5: That man is part vampire bat. I'm telling you, there
- 13:03Speaker 5: is nothing.
- 13:04Speaker 2: He pops in and says... oh, this anniversary is coming up.
- 13:10Speaker 2: And I'm like, wait.
- 13:10Speaker 6: Hulu.
- 13:12Speaker 2: I'm watching Hulu. And I was actually watching I think
- 13:19Speaker 2: it was All Rise my wife was watching. And there's
- 13:22Speaker 2: another show, a black lawyer show that's on there too
- 13:24Speaker 2: that I kind of got sucked into. And I enjoyed.
- 13:29Speaker 2: But they had a commercial. And the commercial was like,
- 13:32Speaker 2: celebrate the 25th anniversary of Smallville. I'm like, 25?
- 13:38Speaker 5: 25 years.
- 13:42Speaker 2: Yo. I'm like, wait, it was just 10 years.
- 13:48Speaker 5: Nah.
- 13:49Speaker 2: Nah, bruh.
- 13:50Speaker 5: Our time is moving. It's moving.
- 13:53Speaker 2: It is. It is. Rev Rogers is in the building
- 13:57Speaker 2: and he says he's still crying over Sir Patrick Stewart.
- 14:02Speaker 5: Man, what an impact.
- 14:05Speaker 2: It was a Rough week. But here's the beautiful thing.
- 14:12Speaker 2: He is one of the few celebrities who is non-problematic.
- 14:18Speaker 2: He's one of the few celebrities who practically had a
- 14:22Speaker 2: lifelong friendship with Sir Ian McKellen.
- 14:27Speaker 5: Those two, if you ever seen them together on the screen,
- 14:31Speaker 5: there was a chemistry and a love between them. That
- 14:35Speaker 5: was undeniable. They fed off of each other so well.
- 14:38Speaker 2: Support. That is what actual friendship and support looks like.
- 14:43Speaker 2: The fact that they were old high school buddies and
- 14:47Speaker 2: came up in the theater world together and came up
- 14:50Speaker 2: in the acting world together. I can only imagine that
- 14:53Speaker 2: when Sir Patrick Stewart got the role for Star Trek,
- 14:58Speaker 2: Sir Ian McKinley actually told him, he said, are you
- 15:00Speaker 2: sure that's what you want to do? You know... Because
- 15:03Speaker 2: they're theater guys. Shakespearean actors. And he says, no, I
- 15:08Speaker 2: want to do it. And he never took himself too seriously.
- 15:12Speaker 6: No.
- 15:13Speaker 2: And it was just a blast to do his thing.
- 15:16Speaker 2: And I can just imagine when he got the role
- 15:19Speaker 2: of Charles Xavier, that he was like, I can only
- 15:24Speaker 2: do this role if you hire Ian McKellen.
- 15:29Speaker 5: I'm like, It was a perfect fit for him to
- 15:33Speaker 5: be Magneto. It was perfect. Those two together? Man, come on.
- 15:38Speaker 2: I loved every bit of it.
- 15:40Speaker 5: We were eating early. We were eating early, okay? Our
- 15:45Speaker 5: stomachs were starting to hurt long before people were saying,
- 15:48Speaker 5: we're eating. No, we were already eating. Y'all just catching
- 15:51Speaker 5: up to the table. But I can honestly say Jean-Luc Picard,
- 15:58Speaker 5: Patrick Stewart, had a huge influence on Star Trek fans.
- 16:05Speaker 5: The new and the established. Because nothing against the original
- 16:09Speaker 5: crew because they opened the door. But when Next Generation
- 16:12Speaker 5: came out, we're talking chokehold.
- 16:16Speaker 2: It makes you... I didn't... Okay. I am a Star
- 16:22Speaker 2: Wars fanatic. I was born in it. I would never
- 16:27Speaker 2: have guessed. It's no secret.
- 16:30Speaker 5: I would never have guessed.
- 16:31Speaker 1: Not in a million years.
- 16:32Speaker 2: What, you? What? The only thing I can say is
- 16:37Speaker 2: when I was a child and being brought into that world,
- 16:40Speaker 2: my grandmother at the time, who, you know, typical parent thing,
- 16:47Speaker 2: she heard Star Wars, but Star Trek was on television.
- 16:52Speaker 2: And so she was like, oh, that show you like
- 16:55Speaker 2: is on TV. And she said that the thing with
- 16:58Speaker 2: the lightsabers. And, you know, she didn't say lightsabers. She
- 17:03Speaker 2: said the thing with the light up. I'm just a kid.
- 17:09Speaker 2: You know, I'm a little kid. Single digit kid. And
- 17:15Speaker 2: she turns to it. And I don't recognize a soul.
- 17:21Speaker 2: Not a one.
- 17:22Speaker 5: Not a single person.
- 17:23Speaker 2: I don't know. any of these people, and I said,
- 17:26Speaker 2: I'm going to give it a chance. As a kid,
- 17:28Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I'll just wait and watch and see
- 17:32Speaker 2: what happens. I didn't see Luke. I didn't see Leia.
- 17:35Speaker 2: I didn't see Han. I seen nothing. Was it traumatic
- 17:41Speaker 2: for you? A bit traumatic. A bit? A bit traumatic.
- 17:47Speaker 2: A bit traumatic.
- 17:48Speaker 5: Just a bit?
- 17:49Speaker 2: Just a bit. And it made it hard for me
- 17:54Speaker 2: to take that in because I, it gave me more,
- 17:58Speaker 2: I had more love for Star Wars. And I said,
- 18:01Speaker 2: I don't even know what the Star Trek is. I
- 18:02Speaker 2: didn't really start watching anything Star Trek until Patrick Stewart
- 18:08Speaker 2: came into the fray because I think it was just a,
- 18:12Speaker 2: I think I stumbled across it one day. Um, in
- 18:17Speaker 2: one of its syndicated roles and I just, uh, episodes
- 18:21Speaker 2: and I ain't just like, Oh, this is, this is okay.
- 18:25Speaker 2: This is what I was missing out on. Okay. I mean,
- 18:27Speaker 2: I watched the older version, but this is it right here.
- 18:30Speaker 2: I like this. And I just kind of got sucked
- 18:33Speaker 2: in and, and stayed there, you know, have I watched
- 18:36Speaker 2: every episode? No, but I have watched episodes of almost
- 18:41Speaker 2: every iteration of Star Trek. And I gotta say, They
- 18:48Speaker 2: kind of.
- 18:50Speaker 5: Hit the marks. There was a certain level of loyalty for.
- 18:54Speaker 2: Please.
- 18:56Speaker 5: Yeah, please, please protect him.
- 18:57Speaker 2: Do not touch Captain Sisko.
- 18:59Speaker 5: Man, Deep Space Nine. Deep Space Nine was my show.
- 19:06Speaker 5: I thought Next Generation was incredible. It was like Mal said,
- 19:12Speaker 5: it was pivotal having those two actors into it, but
- 19:15Speaker 5: it was pivotal overall for what it brought and what
- 19:19Speaker 5: it influenced as far as science fiction, the future writers,
- 19:23Speaker 5: the screenwriters, the actors, the creators going forward. And truth
- 19:29Speaker 5: be told, I was not a huge Next Generation fan,
- 19:35Speaker 5: but you couldn't pull me away from Deep Space Nine.
- 19:39Speaker 2: To this day, Deep Space Nine, anytime a brother sits down,
- 19:45Speaker 2: pours him a drink, puts on the captain's log, says
- 19:53Speaker 2: exactly what he did, and then said, erase that shit.
- 19:58Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, he locked in. This dead man I
- 20:10Speaker 2: know I had shot on those folks, but I brought peace.
- 20:16Speaker 2: Who gonna fight me? It's a jaw-dropping moment to see
- 20:24Speaker 2: him sit up there and just say everything he did. Everything.
- 20:28Speaker 2: I fired upon, I did this, I did this. End transmission.
- 20:35Speaker 2: Erase log. Ha ha ha ha ha! What?
- 20:39Speaker 5: Yo, this is when plausible deniability became the norm, okay?
- 20:45Speaker 5: If it ain't there, it doesn't exist.
- 20:47Speaker 2: Yeah. He's like, I dare someone. After that, I'm like, yeah,
- 20:55Speaker 2: you are captain in my book, my friend. So, all
- 21:01Speaker 2: nerds says Patrick Stewart, he's legendary in two new universes. Yes,
- 21:04Speaker 2: it's beautiful to know that he's Picard and to others
- 21:06Speaker 2: he's Xavier and to most, both. Bam said, this is
- 21:12Speaker 2: what I nicknamed my nephew one and two. Bam, I
- 21:17Speaker 2: worry about you. He said, Mal says, it was destiny
- 21:22Speaker 2: and lightning in a bottle to see both Sir Patrick
- 21:25Speaker 2: Stewart and Sir Ian McKellen play two pivotal characters from
- 21:28Speaker 2: comic history. It was. It was. Say what you want
- 21:32Speaker 2: about the X-Men looking back. but you cannot deny the performances.
- 21:42Speaker 5: True.
- 21:43Speaker 2: You cannot deny the performances. When they did Dark, that
- 21:47Speaker 2: scene from Dark Phoenix, after we lose the professor, that
- 21:52Speaker 2: scene where Magneto and Pyro and Callisto and the brother,
- 21:57Speaker 2: he's gathering all the mutants he can in the woods,
- 21:59Speaker 2: and he doesn't have Jean Grey under his control, but
- 22:03Speaker 2: he's trying to coerce her to his side. And he's talking,
- 22:07Speaker 2: and when Pyro says, if given the chance, I would
- 22:10Speaker 2: have taken out Xavier and Magneto stops him dead in
- 22:13Speaker 2: his tracks. It's like, that man has done more for
- 22:18Speaker 2: mutant kind than you will ever know. That line, that line, it's,
- 22:26Speaker 2: it's one thing to read it in comics, but to
- 22:30Speaker 2: see that kind of relationship play out on the screen. Yeah. Yeah.
- 22:35Speaker 2: It nails it. It nails you. It's just like, yeah,
- 22:38Speaker 2: They may be, and Kira said it best, they may
- 22:41Speaker 2: be opposing sides, but you bet not lay a hand
- 22:48Speaker 2: on Charles Xavier. You want to see tables flipped? Man.
- 22:55Speaker 5: Bro, that is absolute truth. I would say Magnus, he
- 23:03Speaker 5: basically said, no one fucks with him but me.
- 23:06Speaker 2: And I'm not. It's like the Joker and Batman. For
- 23:12Speaker 2: the Joker. Although the relationship ain't the same.
- 23:14Speaker 5: But it's the same.
- 23:15Speaker 2: The principle is Joker's like, I don't care who wanted
- 23:18Speaker 2: a mask. I like the game. And don't nobody mess
- 23:21Speaker 2: with him but me.
- 23:24Speaker 5: I will find you myself.
- 23:26Speaker 2: I will take you down. Okay. You did what?
- 23:29Speaker 1: What?
- 23:30Speaker 2: I never said I wanted the bat dead.
- 23:32Speaker 5: I never authorized it.
- 23:37Speaker 2: Oh Lord. Like you just took the fun out of it.
- 23:39Speaker 2: You know, like, no, but it was true. It's true.
- 23:44Speaker 2: Just reminiscing on those types of relationship, the Charles and
- 23:47Speaker 2: the Charles and Magneto relationship, Patrick Stursey. And it was,
- 23:51Speaker 2: it was, I remember people saying, oh man, Charles Xavier,
- 23:55Speaker 2: one thing, but then they seen Sir Ian McKellen. They
- 23:57Speaker 2: was like, oh, I would have thought McNeil would have
- 23:59Speaker 2: been slightly younger. And I'm like, I don't think this matters.
- 24:02Speaker 2: This is about skill. This is about skill.
- 24:07Speaker 5: Oh my gosh. People, people focus on the wrong shit.
- 24:12Speaker 5: I swear people focus on the wrong things.
- 24:16Speaker 2: Okay.
- 24:17Speaker 5: I'll give you another example. We'll, We'll take them as
- 24:21Speaker 5: the prime example. We'll put another one in here. Reed
- 24:24Speaker 5: Richards and Victor Von Doom.
- 24:27Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 24:27Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
- 24:29Speaker 5: A lot of people do not realize at one point
- 24:32Speaker 5: they were thick as thieves. Thick as thieves. And even
- 24:36Speaker 5: to an extent, Doom said, all right, y'all fuck with
- 24:41Speaker 5: Reed if you want to. Y'all fuck with Reed if
- 24:45Speaker 5: you want to. No one is going to take him
- 24:46Speaker 5: out but me.
- 24:48Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
- 24:48Speaker 2: I mean, I can't looking at, we're going to do it.
- 24:52Speaker 2: We have, we have, we've got to do a show.
- 24:57Speaker 1: I was already thinking that too, man.
- 25:00Speaker 2: Yo, because when you look at, when you look at
- 25:03Speaker 2: how Victor is with Reed, he can't stand him in
- 25:08Speaker 2: the midst of battle. He can't stand him, but he
- 25:12Speaker 2: cool with, he cool with Susan.
- 25:14Speaker 5: Oh, is he ever?
- 25:16Speaker 2: He cool with Susan. Like if anybody could, if anybody
- 25:19Speaker 2: at that team going to talk sense to him, she's like, hey,
- 25:22Speaker 2: let me talk to him for a minute. Let me
- 25:23Speaker 2: talk to him. And they're like, and he don't like being,
- 25:27Speaker 2: because that's Reed's boy. He was just like, I don't
- 25:29Speaker 2: like you, and he don't like you, so to hell
- 25:31Speaker 2: with you. And Johnny, he really ain't like Johnny after
- 25:36Speaker 2: the wedding. After that last wedding, Doom was supposed to have,
- 25:40Speaker 2: and Johnny was like, I think I slept with Doom's fiance.
- 25:45Speaker 1: You what?
- 25:49Speaker 2: And we got invited to this man's house?
- 25:51Speaker 5: What?
- 25:54Speaker 2: Oh, man.
- 25:56Speaker 5: Comics as a whole will take you down rabbit holes
- 25:59Speaker 5: that you didn't even think existed. You're going to come
- 26:02Speaker 5: out needing a drink if you don't have one already.
- 26:05Speaker 2: By the way, as much as I hate Namor, that
- 26:08Speaker 2: scene in that book. Oh, gosh. I was Namor right there.
- 26:13Speaker 2: He said, what? and busted out laughing. Tea has been spilt.
- 26:20Speaker 2: Bring on the liquor. That was hilarious. Yo.
- 26:29Speaker 5: Man, Reed doesn't realize there are people who Sue has
- 26:33Speaker 5: been the reason why he ain't been taken out. Because
- 26:37Speaker 5: Sue has been like, mm-mm-mm.
- 26:42Speaker 2: He looks at Valeria and he's like, I still don't
- 26:45Speaker 2: like you. Your mama cool. He's literally like, oh boy,
- 26:49Speaker 2: from Stone. He's like, if you, if you, if you,
- 26:55Speaker 2: you cool, then F you. I'm out. That's, that's, that's,
- 27:01Speaker 2: that's Doom. That's Doom. That is Doom. That is Doom
- 27:06Speaker 2: all day long. Oh, man. Like, so.
- 27:09Speaker 5: I'm excited for next month. I'm really excited for next month.
- 27:13Speaker 2: The Operation... to Doomsday begins now. But yeah, I'm ready.
- 27:21Speaker 2: I am ready. I am ready. But for those, this
- 27:25Speaker 2: is a nice segue. For those who are just watching tonight,
- 27:28Speaker 2: tonight we are doing, we're going to cover some of
- 27:30Speaker 2: Jonathan Hickman's Avengers, The Road to Doomsday, which is how
- 27:35Speaker 2: we get Doomsdays, which is how we get Secret Wars.
- 27:38Speaker 2: And dare I say, probably some of the best written
- 27:44Speaker 2: Avengers stuff Yeah. In my opinion. In my opinion. And
- 27:49Speaker 2: I guess because I'm a little biased because I love
- 27:51Speaker 2: Hickman's work.
- 27:52Speaker 5: Yeah, you are a stand for Hickman.
- 27:55Speaker 2: It's like, he makes me buy the books that I
- 27:57Speaker 2: normally don't get. I'm like, I wasn't getting Avengers like
- 28:01Speaker 2: this before. And I was like, I'm going to stick
- 28:03Speaker 2: around for a minute. With the exception of X-Men, I
- 28:06Speaker 2: was already getting that. And I'm like, when they said
- 28:08Speaker 2: he's on it, I'm like, well, I already got that
- 28:11Speaker 2: on my list. I'm good. Fair.
- 28:12Speaker 1: Very fair.
- 28:13Speaker 2: Very, very fair. Jeez.
- 28:16Speaker 5: We are big old kids, man, boss.
- 28:19Speaker 2: So, Mal says we should call it the Reed and
- 28:23Speaker 2: Victor paradigm. Let's workshop it. We can workshop it.
- 28:27Speaker 5: Oh, my gosh.
- 28:28Speaker 2: We can workshop it. Straight out of Latveria.
- 28:32Speaker 5: Yo, Mal, you need to stop. Mal, you need to
- 28:35Speaker 5: find me next month.
- 28:36Speaker 2: You'll get credit if I make that the episode. Rev
- 28:42Speaker 2: asked have you heard some reviews on a preview of
- 28:44Speaker 2: Godzilla minus zero I have not yet not yet but
- 28:48Speaker 2: if you've seen Shin Godzilla minus one I wouldn't doubt
- 28:54Speaker 2: that this is pretty good that previous one was I
- 28:59Speaker 2: haven't take that back uh oh the Matthew Broderick version
- 29:05Speaker 2: of Godzilla is watchable but it's not it's not top
- 29:08Speaker 2: tier It's not top tier, no. It's a good watch,
- 29:13Speaker 2: but it's not Godzilla. I was kind of upset y'all
- 29:18Speaker 2: changed his design. I'm like, why did you change his design?
- 29:22Speaker 5: Was it the same company?
- 29:25Speaker 2: No.
- 29:26Speaker 5: Okay, then that's why. Because, you know, everybody, different companies
- 29:29Speaker 5: take the same property, they have their own vision. And
- 29:32Speaker 5: they're going to form it and shape it into the
- 29:34Speaker 5: vision that they feel is right. And then they show it,
- 29:38Speaker 5: but then the general public goes, what the fuck are
- 29:40Speaker 5: you doing? That's not what I remember.
- 29:43Speaker 2: But for the most part, Godzilla does look the same.
- 29:50Speaker 2: In just every iteration we've seen. He generally does look
- 29:53Speaker 2: the same. It's just that particular version, I'm like, hmm...
- 29:59Speaker 2: I'll watch but this ain't it and then they made
- 30:06Speaker 2: a cartoon from that from that movie.
- 30:10Speaker 5: And I'm just like look stop trying to market every
- 30:15Speaker 5: fucking thing out here good grief.
- 30:17Speaker 2: It was the 90s everything it was the 90s everything
- 30:23Speaker 2: from comics to there's only one be glad we haven't
- 30:28Speaker 2: seen any Gatsuki.
- 30:30Speaker 5: Yo, don't think I even speculate seeing Godzuki flying through
- 30:33Speaker 5: there somewhere, somehow. Although it almost did in one iteration.
- 30:39Speaker 2: Almost.
- 30:40Speaker 5: Almost did in one iteration. And when it did, I
- 30:42Speaker 5: was like, it's Godz.
- 30:44Speaker 1: Oh.
- 30:45Speaker 2: You assholes. Yeah. Almost. Almost. But the version of Godzilla
- 30:52Speaker 2: that they have here, the one where it's been Godzilla
- 30:54Speaker 2: and Kong for the past two, three movies? Three movies,
- 30:58Speaker 2: I would say. and they're doing a fourth one and
- 31:02Speaker 2: the version that's normally coming from overseas, they're fine because
- 31:07Speaker 2: they still, it's not in the same vein, but it's
- 31:10Speaker 2: the same. It's almost the same look. They don't change
- 31:13Speaker 2: the look of Godzilla that much, at least over here
- 31:18Speaker 2: for the version they've been using. They did. They just
- 31:20Speaker 2: gave him slight upgrades, you know, like with the last,
- 31:25Speaker 2: the last Godzilla film they did, uh, they gave him
- 31:29Speaker 2: the protector role. You know, he only shows up. It
- 31:33Speaker 2: might be tearing up some shit, but he only shows
- 31:35Speaker 2: up to do what he needs to do. And when
- 31:38Speaker 2: he goes to the Coliseum and he goes to curl
- 31:41Speaker 2: up in the Coliseum, they're like, what is he doing? Like,
- 31:44Speaker 2: my man, he resting. He getting charged up for the fight.
- 31:49Speaker 5: You ever notice in the movies, they always ask the
- 31:51Speaker 5: stupid ass questions. When, if you look at it in
- 31:53Speaker 5: the obvious sense, it makes sense to anyone say, Oh yeah,
- 31:56Speaker 5: he's taking a nap.
- 31:57Speaker 2: What are, what he's doing? Nigga, he's asleep.
- 32:00Speaker 1: He's tired.
- 32:02Speaker 2: Speaking of sleep, hear from her slumber. My cat, my
- 32:06Speaker 2: second in command. Lady Mandalore. I was not asleep. I
- 32:10Speaker 2: didn't say you were asleep.
- 32:15Speaker 5: Girl, shout out to you from the other night. Yo,
- 32:18Speaker 5: you nailed that last minute show like a beast.
- 32:22Speaker 8: Thank you.
- 32:22Speaker 5: I know.
- 32:25Speaker 9: Never wanted to have that little bit of fun ever again.
- 32:30Speaker 2: For those who have not seen it, you need to
- 32:33Speaker 2: go check. Even though she had technical difficulties Sunday night,
- 32:36Speaker 2: so she did an impromptu show for Monday. She recovered.
- 32:42Speaker 2: And she says, I had to get that together in
- 32:45Speaker 2: four hours. And I said, that's called under four hours.
- 32:48Speaker 8: I walked through the door at 4pm and then had
- 32:52Speaker 8: to put the show on by 8 p.m which means
- 32:55Speaker 8: i had to do all that promo and shit yeah that's.
- 33:00Speaker 2: I told her i put in the chat i said
- 33:02Speaker 2: and that's called a monday.
- 33:04Speaker 8: No it is it is.
- 33:06Speaker 2: Yo imagine what i go through i've done i've done
- 33:12Speaker 2: short round look per case in point the keenan topson
- 33:16Speaker 2: episode Sorry. No, sorry, no. Don't apologize. That was the
- 33:26Speaker 2: episode where she says, Keenan says he's coming on. Oh, great, when? Tomorrow. Okay,
- 33:33Speaker 2: we can make it work.
- 33:36Speaker 8: Scrap everything.
- 33:37Speaker 2: Scratch it all down.
- 33:39Speaker 5: Sorry, you were going to be a guest, but guess what?
- 33:42Speaker 2: What's going on tomorrow?
- 33:42Speaker 9: Keenan.
- 33:46Speaker 2: No great job great job great job lady Mandalore stepping
- 33:51Speaker 2: in she put her foot on the edge you better
- 33:54Speaker 2: you got no choice praise king is lowered she says
- 34:04Speaker 2: buy her a coffee yes please buy her a coffee let's.
- 34:09Speaker 8: Get after that shit last night yeah.
- 34:14Speaker 2: Real quick before we get into our topic. Ben Wang
- 34:18Speaker 2: has been announced of playing Bobby Drake in the new X-Men.
- 34:23Speaker 9: I thought that he was still on the cusp or
- 34:28Speaker 9: on the edge of things or whatever.
- 34:29Speaker 2: They made the announcement. They made the announcement.
- 34:33Speaker 5: Okay, so it's for sure.
- 34:36Speaker 2: It looks like it's for sure. Let's take a look
- 34:39Speaker 2: real quick. Where are you at? There you are. Ben
- 34:43Speaker 2: Wang casting is the exact type. The cast of Warner
- 34:46Speaker 2: continues to grow. New report has revealed that Ben Wang,
- 34:50Speaker 2: who is currently in Karate Kid Legends and upcoming Hunger Games,
- 34:55Speaker 2: Sunrise of the Reaping, will appear in the movie as Iceman,
- 34:58Speaker 2: known as Bobby Drake. It is official. Interesting.
- 35:03Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 35:04Speaker 5: Interesting pick for Bobby Drake. Interesting take.
- 35:09Speaker 8: There's an Asian Iceman in X-Men, right? In an alternate universe.
- 35:15Speaker 5: An alternate universe, yes. But not in the normal.
- 35:22Speaker 2: But see, I don't think it really... I don't think
- 35:27Speaker 2: it matters because if... They might have something major to
- 35:32Speaker 2: go with Bobby Drake. because I would like to see
- 35:37Speaker 2: who else was up in the running just curiosity out
- 35:42Speaker 2: of curiosity meanwhile Maya Gold is currently with her trainer
- 35:49Speaker 2: for the goddess for her role as a goddess.
- 35:51Speaker 8: I miss Maya shout out to.
- 35:54Speaker 7: Brooklyn she's doing her thing what was it just a
- 35:59Speaker 7: couple weeks ago she was out walking and she came
- 36:01Speaker 7: across the mural of Storm I said how serendipitous.
- 36:06Speaker 2: It's meant to be.
- 36:07Speaker 8: Somebody told her exactly what street it was upon.
- 36:12Speaker 5: Whoops.
- 36:13Speaker 2: A win's a win.
- 36:14Speaker 5: Darn. I wonder how that happened. Go figure.
- 36:21Speaker 2: I'm enjoying that. I have a lot of hopes for that.
- 36:28Speaker 2: A lot of praise is going down the pipe. Everybody
- 36:31Speaker 2: is gearing up for Doomsday. No one knows what to expect.
- 36:39Speaker 2: In the meantime, Robert Downey Jr. and Pedro Pascal are
- 36:42Speaker 2: out just as giddy as kittens for Halloween, dressing as
- 36:48Speaker 2: the other's counterpart. I'm just like, oh, y'all just... Y'all
- 36:52Speaker 2: leaning into it, ain't you? Mm-hmm.
- 36:55Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
- 36:56Speaker 8: Like Cali Sober out there.
- 36:58Speaker 5: Something.
- 37:03Speaker 6: Yikes.
- 37:05Speaker 2: I'm like, what is going on? Just as giddy? I'm like,
- 37:08Speaker 2: wait a minute. But this is how you do it. Also,
- 37:13Speaker 2: Robert Downey Jr. is he's not sponsoring, but he's been
- 37:21Speaker 2: in like some specs commercials, which is a new form
- 37:24Speaker 2: of glasses. Sort of like, I guess, sort of like
- 37:26Speaker 2: meta glasses. Think of him like what he wore in
- 37:32Speaker 2: Infinity War.
- 37:38Speaker 9: I don't want I don't want I don't literally never
- 37:42Speaker 9: wanted that thanks but also especially especially so glad that
- 37:49Speaker 9: we have that technology however.
- 37:53Speaker 2: Much like everything else used for evil and.
- 37:57Speaker 9: Not for the good like I don't mouth breathers should
- 38:00Speaker 9: not be have access to that type of technology it
- 38:03Speaker 9: should not be what.
- 38:04Speaker 5: You mean the neckbeards don't deserve it what?
- 38:09Speaker 2: Although, although watching vision quest and finding out that, uh,
- 38:13Speaker 2: Tony Stark bought a lot of his, a lot of his,
- 38:18Speaker 2: I guess the building blocks to his AI, to his AIs.
- 38:21Speaker 2: And I said, Oh, sort of like a certain South
- 38:25Speaker 2: African person.
- 38:26Speaker 8: Don't call him South Africa. Don't do that.
- 38:30Speaker 2: I'd say the name, but you know, who knows what
- 38:32Speaker 2: happens to the glitching.
- 38:33Speaker 5: Uh, You mean Captain Chainsaw?
- 38:38Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 38:39Speaker 2: Only difference is Tony Stark still invents his own stuff.
- 38:41Speaker 2: There we go.
- 38:43Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 38:45Speaker 2: He doesn't take the chassis of cars and make them
- 38:50Speaker 2: flip around and say, see? Flying cars. No, that's not
- 38:55Speaker 2: what we asked for. That is not what we want.
- 39:01Speaker 2: But whatever. I digress.
- 39:04Speaker 5: I got nothing.
- 39:06Speaker 2: Neither does he, but here we are.
- 39:11Speaker 8: Except for all them fucking kids.
- 39:12Speaker 5: Anyway.
- 39:12Speaker 2: That's about it.
- 39:14Speaker 1: Anyway.
- 39:16Speaker 2: Oh, man. So.
- 39:17Speaker 8: Hide your money, y'all. The ghetto.
- 39:19Speaker 2: Hide your money. Oh, I love it. I love it.
- 39:25Speaker 2: I love it. So we are going to take a
- 39:28Speaker 2: quick break. We're going to come back. and we're going
- 39:30Speaker 2: to talk about Jonathan Hickman's Avengers, The Road to Doomsday.
- 39:35Speaker 2: I guess you could say required reading.
- 39:37Speaker 5: Yes.
- 39:37Speaker 2: Or some things to check into before you go into
- 39:40Speaker 2: December 18th or 17th, depending on where you're at. Or maybe, what,
- 39:44Speaker 2: the 14th or the 13th of those who get pre-screenings.
- 39:47Speaker 2: Lucky ducks.
- 39:49Speaker 9: I'm not doing all that this year are they good
- 39:52Speaker 9: I'll sit my ass in a regular seat at a
- 39:53Speaker 9: regular time thank you.
- 39:56Speaker 5: I will go to my favorite I'll go to my
- 39:58Speaker 5: favorite theater to watch it and that's where I'll be.
- 40:00Speaker 2: And that's where I'll be I don't have to be
- 40:03Speaker 2: I got to see it first hey I'm just glad
- 40:05Speaker 2: I got to see it as long as it's that
- 40:07Speaker 2: first week and I don't care we'll be right back
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- 41:39Speaker 5: This is Devin Mack at Sonic Expo Dallas, and you're
- 41:41Speaker 5: watching Blurred's Eye View.
- 41:56Speaker 2: Okay, so tonight's episode is, of course, Jonathan Hickman's Avengers
- 42:04Speaker 2: Road to Doomsday. How do we get to Doomsday? Then
- 42:07Speaker 2: it also leads into Secret Wars, so this might be
- 42:09Speaker 2: a part two episode. Navy, I want you to help
- 42:13Speaker 2: me walk this one through. I'll try my best. Kira
- 42:20Speaker 2: jumped off the M train some time back. She was like,
- 42:23Speaker 2: if they don't stop this fuck shit, and I get it.
- 42:27Speaker 8: I just need consistency, but that's why I'm here, fellas.
- 42:30Speaker 8: I'm here to see the end result.
- 42:33Speaker 2: I'm with her about the fuck shit. I'm with her.
- 42:39Speaker 5: Facts.
- 42:40Speaker 2: Basically, we have Hickman came on to the Avengers around 2012,
- 42:44Speaker 2: I want to say, and started writing three different books,
- 42:48Speaker 2: as a matter of fact. It was Avengers, Avengers Infinity,
- 42:52Speaker 2: and I want us to end Secret Wars. It was
- 42:55Speaker 2: Time Runs Out, New Avengers, And this was kind of
- 42:58Speaker 2: the building blocks, because when Hickman writes, he writes arcs.
- 43:06Speaker 2: There's completion. You're going to question things in the beginning,
- 43:10Speaker 2: but trust me, he makes sure the shit pays off.
- 43:15Speaker 2: As long as you leave him on the book. So, basically,
- 43:21Speaker 2: New Avengers starts off with the Avengers machine. Now, the
- 43:24Speaker 2: Avengers machine is what Cap, Steve, decides, he says, we
- 43:29Speaker 2: need to make the team bigger. We need to have
- 43:32Speaker 2: a little more breadth. We need to involve some more people.
- 43:35Speaker 2: We need... Because we can't be everywhere. This is where
- 43:38Speaker 2: Cannonball is joined on the team. So he's reaching out,
- 43:42Speaker 2: Mutant Affairs. Although, me and Steve, we need to talk
- 43:46Speaker 2: about this Mutant Affairs situation.
- 43:47Speaker 1: Oh, Lord.
- 43:48Speaker 2: You be lacking sometimes. You be lacking. You my guy,
- 43:51Speaker 2: but you be lacking when it comes to Mutant Affairs.
- 43:53Speaker 2: Cyclops told you about that shit. So... He reaches out.
- 43:57Speaker 2: This is like, for me, the third time he's tried
- 44:00Speaker 2: to create this team that involved the mutants. So he starts,
- 44:03Speaker 2: he's like, there's people we need to join. So there
- 44:05Speaker 2: were people like Hyperion, Captain Universe, Cannonball, Smasher, you know,
- 44:14Speaker 2: from the Shi'ar Empire. So he was really like, yeah,
- 44:17Speaker 2: it's not just going to be the global threat. We're
- 44:19Speaker 2: talking cosmic as well. He was like, we just can't
- 44:22Speaker 2: be everywhere. And he's right. And so that leads to, well,
- 44:29Speaker 2: a couple of things. And it leads to, later on,
- 44:33Speaker 2: it leads to another split between him and Tony. Not
- 44:37Speaker 2: Civil War style, but more of, we're fighting the same battle,
- 44:42Speaker 2: fighting the same war, but my way might be better
- 44:45Speaker 2: than yours.
- 44:46Speaker 5: With their own set of, their own sets of teams.
- 44:52Speaker 2: Right. So, So here it is. This is what we
- 44:55Speaker 2: start off bigger, weirder. Let's talk about it. He expands
- 44:59Speaker 2: the roster and handle threats on the planetary, even cosmic scale,
- 45:02Speaker 2: new faces, long classics, Hyperion, Captain universe, star brand, night mask, uh, smasher,
- 45:09Speaker 2: lot of big ideas, not just names. Then you have
- 45:12Speaker 2: the builders arc, uh, which is an ancient cosmic force.
- 45:16Speaker 2: Now this one, you really had to wrap your head around, uh, uh,
- 45:20Speaker 2: there was like an ancient race, a cosmic beings who
- 45:25Speaker 2: basically said we helped seed the earth. Think of it
- 45:30Speaker 2: almost like what we seen the, in the internals, but
- 45:33Speaker 2: not on that scale. Just, yeah, it was like a
- 45:37Speaker 2: lot of the heroes that are on earth. We seeded
- 45:41Speaker 2: the earth and there are things within earth that, you know,
- 45:44Speaker 2: it kind of, it's like a domino effect. Things happened,
- 45:48Speaker 2: you know, as time will tell, certain things have to
- 45:52Speaker 2: come into effect. That happens this, this happens here, this
- 45:55Speaker 2: happens here, adamantium's involved, the super soldier serum's involved, that
- 45:59Speaker 2: type of thing. If you think about the MCU as
- 46:03Speaker 2: a whole, the one thing that binds pretty much the
- 46:08Speaker 2: first phase, first and second phase is the super soldier
- 46:11Speaker 2: serum in one form or another. Hulk, Cap, you name it,
- 46:16Speaker 2: somehow it's involved. It always comes back to that serum.
- 46:22Speaker 2: It's not just street level Avengers. Now, if you want
- 46:25Speaker 2: to talk about new Avengers street level, that's Luke Cage. Yeah.
- 46:28Speaker 2: When he ran the team for a while. But it's
- 46:32Speaker 2: more of an idea. Then we come to the incursions.
- 46:39Speaker 2: And this is my favorite part.
- 46:42Speaker 5: You see how happy he's getting right now? You see this?
- 46:45Speaker 5: This is some scary shit right now.
- 46:47Speaker 2: I will explain why the encourage, but go ahead, Navy.
- 46:50Speaker 2: I want you to take the encouraging part, but I'll
- 46:52Speaker 2: tell you why I like the encouraging part.
- 46:59Speaker 5: Now, I want to hear why you like the encouraging part.
- 47:01Speaker 5: You ain't going to.
- 47:02Speaker 2: Sit here and just leave me. I'm going to skip
- 47:03Speaker 2: right to it? Okay.
- 47:04Speaker 5: Yeah, get right to it.
- 47:05Speaker 2: Okay, so the encouragements. As we're starting to see in
- 47:10Speaker 2: the MCU, the encouragements are different. several Earths that are
- 47:17Speaker 2: somehow attracted to each other. They're starting to smash together.
- 47:21Speaker 2: One's going to be there, one's not. Maybe both of
- 47:23Speaker 2: them are gone, or however many are getting smashed at
- 47:26Speaker 2: this point. The reason why I like this part, there's
- 47:31Speaker 2: a point in the Encouraging plot that I like because
- 47:34Speaker 2: it involves Black Panther and Namor. If you stroll back
- 47:40Speaker 2: a couple of years.
- 47:42Speaker 2: Black Panther has had it out for Namor ever since
- 47:45Speaker 2: he flooded Wakanda. Yeah. He literally out of his mouth said, Ricky,
- 47:54Speaker 2: when I find you, when I find you, Ricky, it's
- 47:58Speaker 2: your ass. And they never were in the same room
- 48:04Speaker 2: together up until this point because... Everybody was involved. There
- 48:11Speaker 2: was a major global cosmic planetary situation going on where
- 48:17Speaker 2: it had to be all hands on deck, put the
- 48:19Speaker 2: bullshit aside, whatever. However, the Illuminati is involved.
- 48:23Speaker 5: Yes.
- 48:25Speaker 2: So the Illuminati was Mr. Fantastic, Dr. Strange, Black Panther, Namor, Beast,
- 48:30Speaker 2: and Black Bolt. And they had to have teams, teams
- 48:34Speaker 2: of two, to go off to each Earth kind of
- 48:38Speaker 2: figure out, with Beat's help, they create the incendiary device.
- 48:44Speaker 2: They have to figure out which Earth was capable of
- 48:47Speaker 2: being saved. Basically, 616 needs to be saved, no matter what.
- 48:54Speaker 2: The other Earths that involve at least one of them,
- 48:57Speaker 2: there's hardly any life on it. At least they, because
- 49:00Speaker 2: they were able to transfer or transport some people off
- 49:04Speaker 2: of the planet. This particular... planet earth X I'll call
- 49:11Speaker 2: it yes we'll we'll just say that it was designed
- 49:19Speaker 2: for black Panther and Namor to go to this planet.
- 49:23Speaker 2: If anybody remembers the last season of Angel and how
- 49:31Speaker 2: Angel had to take everybody from the teams and everybody
- 49:35Speaker 2: had a job to do. Everybody had a job to do.
- 49:39Speaker 2: If you remember who Lorne is, his job was to go...
- 49:43Speaker 2: Who was it with? I can't remember the guy's name
- 49:46Speaker 2: that Lorne went with. But Lorne was the demon. And Lorne,
- 49:51Speaker 2: his job was to just assist. And then after that,
- 49:55Speaker 2: shoot and kill this person who worked for Wolfram and Hart.
- 49:58Speaker 2: And then walk away because he was done. In this case,
- 50:03Speaker 2: it's Black Panther and Namor. And it was designed to
- 50:07Speaker 2: place this device... Leave the planet. But if everybody knows
- 50:12Speaker 2: Black Panther, he says, you teaming me with who? And
- 50:16Speaker 2: you know I want his ass? Okay.
- 50:25Speaker 5: Okay.
- 50:27Speaker 2: And they go to this planet. They plant the device.
- 50:32Speaker 2: And he looks Namor in the face. And he says, bitch,
- 50:36Speaker 2: I told you. I was going to have you. and
- 50:40Speaker 2: takes a blade and guns it straight through his chest.
- 50:44Speaker 2: He said, I told you. When I find you, when
- 50:52Speaker 2: I find you, and I will not think twice about it.
- 50:57Speaker 2: He said, device planted, timer set, that's your ass, goodbye,
- 51:03Speaker 2: I'm gone. And he leaves.
- 51:05Speaker 5: And bounces.
- 51:06Speaker 2: And bounces. However, he made one. One slight mistake that
- 51:11Speaker 2: you see people make in most horror films. He didn't
- 51:15Speaker 2: make sure he didn't look back.
- 51:18Speaker 5: He didn't double tap.
- 51:20Speaker 2: He didn't do any of these things.
- 51:22Speaker 5: You just thought that one tap was going to do it.
- 51:26Speaker 2: And it would've. It would've. However, Thanos shows up and says, hey,
- 51:34Speaker 2: you roll with me. I can save your life. Or
- 51:38Speaker 2: I can just leave you there to die. He's like,
- 51:40Speaker 2: save me. And he ends up part of Thanos' crew.
- 51:43Speaker 2: So he made it off. He made it off literally
- 51:47Speaker 2: with seconds to spare. Seconds. But, okay, I told the
- 51:54Speaker 2: people about the best part of the incursion for me.
- 51:57Speaker 2: But take it.
- 52:00Speaker 8: Okay, now somebody explain it.
- 52:01Speaker 5: Okay, so if y'all are familiar with The DC's Crisis
- 52:07Speaker 5: on Infinite Earths. It's along the same lines. The Incursion
- 52:12Speaker 5: is where two parallel Earths are about to collide within
- 52:19Speaker 5: the same point of time. Now, one of these Earths
- 52:22Speaker 5: has to survive. And if both of them are still there,
- 52:29Speaker 5: then they wipe each other out. All existence goes bye-bye.
- 52:33Speaker 5: But here's the catch. There's an eight-hour window to make
- 52:36Speaker 5: this happen, to decide which Earth is going to be
- 52:40Speaker 5: the one that's sacrificed, which is why the Illuminati was formed.
- 52:44Speaker 5: Because these are the brilliant minds, but there was so
- 52:47Speaker 5: much going on in between all of them, half the
- 52:50Speaker 5: time they couldn't even get their shit straight, let alone
- 52:54Speaker 5: try to figure out what was going on. So... Question. Yeah.
- 53:02Speaker 2: Yes, dear.
- 53:02Speaker 5: And she's chewing, so this is scary.
- 53:05Speaker 2: I feel like we're in college, and I love it.
- 53:07Speaker 5: I feel, yeah.
- 53:09Speaker 9: Are we, the Illuminati, I know of them. But in
- 53:13Speaker 9: this instance, since we have so many, since we have
- 53:16Speaker 9: incursions going on, are they members from each different Earth,
- 53:20Speaker 9: or are they a part of one?
- 53:22Speaker 2: They're part of the 616 universe. Yeah, they are. But
- 53:24Speaker 2: they represent each planet. each leg of the Marvel Universe.
- 53:30Speaker 2: So you have Black Bolt, who represents the Inhumans. Xavier
- 53:34Speaker 2: represents the Mutants. Captain represents the, I guess, the Superhumans.
- 53:40Speaker 2: Black Panther represents Wakanda.
- 53:44Speaker 5: Yeah, Doctor Strange was the Paranormal and the Mystical Side.
- 53:50Speaker 2: And Namor was the Sith. And Mr. Fantastic and Beast,
- 53:54Speaker 2: they were the Science Heads. Okay.
- 53:57Speaker 5: Which is why they were brought together because they were
- 54:00Speaker 5: considered the most brilliant minds of each of those specific factions.
- 54:04Speaker 5: I call them factions. These particular factions. So when they
- 54:07Speaker 5: come together, that is when I think it was Tony
- 54:11Speaker 5: and Reed came up with this not only the way
- 54:16Speaker 5: to fix it, but how much of a timeline that
- 54:19Speaker 5: they had. So it was really wild. Eight hours of
- 54:26Speaker 5: Where Prime Earth, which is called Marble Earth, Earth 616,
- 54:30Speaker 5: and you had Earth X, which was the one from
- 54:33Speaker 5: the other side. So, as time is running short, I
- 54:37Speaker 5: think the thing that really fucked me up about this
- 54:40Speaker 5: is that I knew this was going to turn into
- 54:42Speaker 5: a different story. And towards the end, time ran out,
- 54:48Speaker 5: and then we go into Battleworld. Because... Because both of
- 54:55Speaker 5: them survive. And somehow, some way, they both come together.
- 55:00Speaker 5: And now you've created Battleworld.
- 55:03Speaker 2: And who's in charge of Battleworld?
- 55:07Speaker 5: He's hooded.
- 55:08Speaker 2: He's wearing green.
- 55:09Speaker 5: And he likes nobody.
- 55:14Speaker 8: Okay, confusion. Confusion. Okay, so, but like, We have, so, okay.
- 55:24Speaker 8: I did a little research. I did a little research.
- 55:26Speaker 2: Okay.
- 55:27Speaker 5: I'm so proud of you.
- 55:28Speaker 8: Thank you. We, so Dr. Strange has a pivotal role, allegedly,
- 55:36Speaker 8: in all of this, correct?
- 55:37Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 55:39Speaker 8: How did we, so at some point, Dr. Strange, oh,
- 55:45Speaker 8: Jesus Christ. You've got the, no, no, no. So you've
- 55:49Speaker 8: got Dr. Strange. He's like, oops, my bad.
- 55:51Speaker 5: I fucked up.
- 55:53Speaker 8: I gotta help, you know, now we gotta help fix
- 55:55Speaker 8: this shit. Am I correct so far? Am I?
- 55:58Speaker 2: Okay.
- 55:59Speaker 8: But then, like, we figure out and find out that
- 56:02Speaker 8: it wasn't really his fault. Is that accurate?
- 56:06Speaker 5: Yeah, because we find out later it was the Beyonders
- 56:09Speaker 5: who initiated this in the first place.
- 56:12Speaker 2: That's where the infinity part of the storyline comes into play,
- 56:16Speaker 2: because Thanos is part of this.
- 56:18Speaker 8: Can't look like, but okay, so.
- 56:22Speaker 9: So, another part of this was the Beyonders being the
- 56:28Speaker 9: people doing the fuck shit, actually.
- 56:31Speaker 5: Yes, and they were using the Molecule Men from the
- 56:34Speaker 5: other Earths and the others to fuel this.
- 56:39Speaker 8: Fuck that guy.
- 56:40Speaker 5: So....
- 56:43Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes. Not exactly. Um.
- 56:48Speaker 9: for being a cog in the wheel of oppression and
- 56:50Speaker 9: degradation of all of his people across all.
- 56:53Speaker 5: Universes throughout the universe fuck em so we get past.
- 57:01Speaker 8: We figure that out.
- 57:04Speaker 9: Doom some fucking hell because comics is able to overpower
- 57:11Speaker 9: the beyonders.
- 57:13Speaker 2: Doom always has a card up his sleeve.
- 57:16Speaker 8: Not doom Strange.
- 57:19Speaker 2: Okay, strange.
- 57:20Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah. The ultimate reason why I'm going through
- 57:23Speaker 9: this line by line is because where the fuck did
- 57:25Speaker 9: Dune come in? Because it feels like he didn't really
- 57:29Speaker 9: have an ultimate part in all of this.
- 57:31Speaker 8: He just happened to be heading to get in charge
- 57:34Speaker 8: when all the shit fell.
- 57:36Speaker 5: He was always observing everything. See, Victor knew exactly what
- 57:41Speaker 5: was going down. The timeline... and the solution. He was
- 57:45Speaker 5: waiting for the opportune moment because he knew it was
- 57:48Speaker 5: going to fail.
- 57:49Speaker 2: He knew it was going to fail. They even went
- 57:51Speaker 2: to him at one point. He was like, nah, I'm good.
- 57:54Speaker 2: He said that for a reason because.
- 57:56Speaker 5: He knew it was going to work.
- 57:58Speaker 8: He's playing 3D chess with chimps in his mind.
- 58:03Speaker 9: They're going to do this, do this, do this.
- 58:06Speaker 2: They're going to fuck up and that's when I'm going
- 58:08Speaker 2: to step in and save the day.
- 58:09Speaker 5: Boom. They're playing Hungry Hungry Hippos and he's over here
- 58:12Speaker 5: playing Game of Life. I know what's going to happen.
- 58:15Speaker 5: I know the end. So that's why he said, yeah,
- 58:18Speaker 5: I'm not joining up with y'all. I'm just fine. Because
- 58:20Speaker 5: he just sat back and he bided his time because
- 58:22Speaker 5: he had already calculated exactly how everything was going to go.
- 58:26Speaker 2: How?
- 58:27Speaker 5: Because it's Victor Von Doom. He always steps ahead of everybody.
- 58:31Speaker 2: Okay, right.
- 58:32Speaker 8: How the fuck did he beat fucking Strange? How did Strange...
- 58:35Speaker 8: not figure that shit out ahead of time.
- 58:37Speaker 5: Mr.
- 58:37Speaker 9: I can see all the goddamn choices.
- 58:39Speaker 8: Like it's splendid and splendid.
- 58:42Speaker 5: And like, I, I am, I am.
- 58:45Speaker 2: As you say, as you say, comics, doom has defeated
- 58:48Speaker 2: Mephisto and took his mama's soul back. Doom has said
- 58:52Speaker 2: he's taken the, uh, he's taking the role of sorcerer
- 58:55Speaker 2: Supreme and he's done that. So he's like, it's dope.
- 58:58Speaker 2: It's dope.
- 58:59Speaker 5: Okay.
- 59:01Speaker 2: But you actually, and sidebar, one of my favorite villains,
- 59:03Speaker 2: cause why not? he's like nobody's coming into my land
- 59:09Speaker 2: I got this nobody's tearing up shit I'm not helping
- 59:14Speaker 2: y'all cause back in my mind y'all gonna fuck it
- 59:17Speaker 2: up some kind of way Doom.
- 59:18Speaker 5: Has become the one villain that readers can relate to
- 59:24Speaker 5: and they can understand to a certain extent may not
- 59:28Speaker 5: agree with what he does But they understand it's motivations.
- 59:32Speaker 5: It's just at a certain point, the motivations really go
- 59:35Speaker 5: left field.
- 59:38Speaker 9: I pay my debts, so I'm never going to fully
- 59:41Speaker 9: fuck with Doom.
- 59:43Speaker 8: I don't like oh-and-nobody shit, so here's.
- 59:46Speaker 2: Your little $ 25. He found that out messing with Luke.
- 59:50Speaker 2: So he now says Doom is the asshole of all trades.
- 59:55Speaker 7: Correct.
- 59:55Speaker 8: Correct.
- 59:56Speaker 2: Going to knock it. I'm not going to knock it.
- 59:58Speaker 5: I would definitely relate to that.
- 59:59Speaker 2: Remember the scene from Falcon and Winter Soldier when they're
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: talking to Zemo and Sam says he's out of line
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: but he's correct. That's Doom. He's out of line but
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: he's right. It's one of those types of things. That's
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: where the infinity or the space arc of everything because
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: everyone thought that the main crux of what was happening
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: was the incursions. They thought that was the main thing
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: and it wasn't. That was never the end game. They
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: thought it was. Doom, as Navy said, I'm playing chess.
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: I'm playing life. Like, y'all, I'm 3D chess out this bitch.
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: What are y'all doing?
- 1:00:37Speaker 5: Like, no.
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: This trivial AI bullshit, no, this is not going to work.
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: But whatever.
- 1:00:45Speaker 5: Can you imagine being an NPC in that storyline? Going
- 1:00:49Speaker 5: to work one day, you get in your car. Hi, honey,
- 1:00:52Speaker 5: I'll see you later.
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: Have a good day.
- 1:00:53Speaker 5: You get in your car, you look up at the sky,
- 1:00:55Speaker 5: and there's another Earth. right there. And it's moving closer.
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: It is.
- 1:01:01Speaker 8: Nothing you can do. You're still going to do your
- 1:01:05Speaker 8: eight hours at this bitch ass.
- 1:01:07Speaker 5: You're still going to clock in. You're still going to
- 1:01:09Speaker 5: get ready for lunch. You're going to talk to Ted.
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: You're coming in, right? We got that thing on Thursday.
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: Thursday ain't going to be here.
- 1:01:21Speaker 8: Let me get a pay advance real quick.
- 1:01:23Speaker 5: Hold on.
- 1:01:25Speaker 8: Let's see if I'm coming in today.
- 1:01:27Speaker 5: Can I take out my 401k like now?
- 1:01:30Speaker 9: I'm not going to be able to do much within
- 1:01:34Speaker 9: the next eight hours, but give me all my money.
- 1:01:36Speaker 5: I'm going to buy me a skidoo.
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: That's when you wake up in the morning and you're
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: just like, I will not be in today.
- 1:01:49Speaker 7: Why?
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: I'm just not coming in. Look out the window. You
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: figure it out. Bye.
- 1:01:53Speaker 5: Yo, we losing them left and right. Nigga, do you
- 1:01:56Speaker 5: know what's happening?
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: Did you look outside? We got to make this deal
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: with the client. Fuck the client.
- 1:02:06Speaker 5: Sure.
- 1:02:07Speaker 8: I'll get right back on that.
- 1:02:09Speaker 9: No problem, Tom.
- 1:02:11Speaker 5: I think what I liked about the incursion was the
- 1:02:15Speaker 5: scope of it. Because anyone who reads comics as long
- 1:02:19Speaker 5: as some of us have, we looked at it and said, oh,
- 1:02:23Speaker 5: it's another Christ on Infinite Earths. We were like, No.
- 1:02:26Speaker 5: There are too many layers involved. There are too many
- 1:02:30Speaker 5: personalities that clash or are trying to figure things out,
- 1:02:35Speaker 5: but they're going to get it wrong no matter what.
- 1:02:37Speaker 5: And even though you know how it's going to end,
- 1:02:39Speaker 5: you still want to see that interaction between these characters.
- 1:02:44Speaker 5: And when Namor and T'Challa? Nigga. You saw that.
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: From the get-go. That's all I needed to see. Them
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: being in the same room, literally every panel where they
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: had to be in the same room and T'Challa, mask on,
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: but you can read his face.
- 1:03:05Speaker 5: Bombastic side eye.
- 1:03:08Speaker 2: I mean, you were like, this man is sitting up
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: there like, I'm hearing everything y'all got over here. I'm
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: just eyeing this bastard over here right quick. Up and down,
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: up and down. No questions asked.
- 1:03:20Speaker 5: It's like Madea. I hate what's going on over her,
- 1:03:24Speaker 5: but she's still looking over her.
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: When they said that they had to team up, T'Challa
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: was pretty much like, gladly. Gladly. Y'all gave me the ticket.
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: It was Namor was like, what? Bitch, get in the car.
- 1:03:45Speaker 5: You heard the man.
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: Get in the car. Okay.
- 1:03:48Speaker 5: Okay.
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: It was one of those things and he knew it
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: he knew that's what it was going to be he
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: knew like it don't matter how much you're going to
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: fight you're going to have to kill me and I
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: know you can't like I have fought super scrolls hand
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: to hand bitch I no more like you that's how
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: he was looking at him so there he was.
- 1:04:17Speaker 5: Somewhere the super scroll talking about yeah I took him
- 1:04:19Speaker 5: on I didn't think it was the greatest decision in
- 1:04:22Speaker 5: the world, but I'm much smarter for it now that
- 1:04:24Speaker 5: I don't want to have both arms.
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: That's a beautiful shot.
- 1:04:29Speaker 5: Right there.
- 1:04:31Speaker 2: No questions asked. He was like, I kept this sharpened
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: just for you.
- 1:04:39Speaker 5: When you don't get their order right, ladies and gentlemen,
- 1:04:41Speaker 5: this is what happens.
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: Bitch, I said wait.
- 1:04:46Speaker 8: It's... I said, oat milk.
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: He got time for these games.
- 1:04:58Speaker 5: I thought it was not dairy.
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: It was probably one of the, for me, one of
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: the best closures in this arc. Because I'm like, finally,
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: after several years of him damn near ducking and dodging.
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: He was like, I'm going to wait until he got
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: to come up for air. He got to come up here.
- 1:05:24Speaker 2: And he got his chance. And who going to stop me?
- 1:05:29Speaker 2: That was his thing. And who going to stop me?
- 1:05:32Speaker 2: Steve ain't going to stop me. Ain't nobody in here
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: going to stop me.
- 1:05:36Speaker 5: So you're trying to go back in time and get
- 1:05:38Speaker 5: his wife.
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: Yeah, ain't nobody going to stop me. But see, it
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: was Thanos saving Namor after that. Which leads to the
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: second part of it, which is the infinity part of
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: the story. And you have Black Bolt making his sacrifice.
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: You have the Inhumans in battle. You have the fallout.
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: It's a complete fallout of everything. It goes a little...
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: It goes crazy. Because that whole infinity arc leads into
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: Time Runs Out. It was all for nothing. It was
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: almost like Everything they have put on the table, every
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: step that they took, every planet that they took out
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: or extra Earth that they took away, it was all
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: for nothing because here it is. It failed in the end.
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: It failed in the end. Eight months later, S.H.I.E.L.D. is
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: broken up. S.H.I.E.L.D. is hunting down the Illuminati. The world
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: is just shattered. It's just fucked up. And it leads
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: to another quote-unquote civil war. Because they, like, once again,
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: Tony and Steve, same side of the fence this time,
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: but they're just like, we should have done, you know,
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: one is saying we should have done this, and the
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: other one's like, no, we should have done this. And
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: it still led to nothing. It still led to nothing.
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: All of that led to Secret Wars, which was Battleworld.
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: And you get some key moments in that one, too.
- 1:07:14Speaker 5: I unfortunately did not get a chance to read Battleworld.
- 1:07:17Speaker 5: It's still on my list. But from every indicator from it,
- 1:07:22Speaker 5: it's required reading.
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: It is. It's required reading. Secret Wars 2015. Because he
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: was on those books.
- 1:07:32Speaker 7: Yeah, 2015.
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: So he was on those books like three years. Secret
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: Wars 2015 version, you have Battleworld. Doom is now known
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: as God Doom. He's in an all-white tunic and everything else.
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: And he is running the show.
- 1:07:52Speaker 5: There's that face. You see her face.
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: Let's stop. Let's stop.
- 1:07:55Speaker 5: Let's stop.
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: Let's stop. Let's stop. Let's stop. Let's stop.
- 1:07:56Speaker 5: Let's stop.
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: Let's stop. Let's stop. Let's stop.
- 1:07:58Speaker 5: Let's stop.
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: Let's stop.
- 1:07:58Speaker 6: Let's stop.
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: Let's stop. Let's stop. Let's stop.
- 1:07:59Speaker 8: Let's stop.
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: Let's stop. Let's stop. Let's stop.
- 1:08:00Speaker 5: Let's stop.
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: Let's stop. Let's stop. Let's stop. Let's stop.
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: Let's stop.
- 1:08:02Speaker 5: Let's stop.
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: Let's stop. Let's stop. Let's stop.
- 1:08:04Speaker 5: Let's stop.
- 1:08:04Speaker 7: Let's stop.
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: Let's stop. Let's stop.
- 1:08:05Speaker 6: Let's stop.
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: Let's stop. Let's stop. Let's stop. Let's stop. Let's stop.
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: Let's stop. Let's stop. Let's stop. Let's stop. Let's stop.
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: Let's you should be thanking me, because you could be
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: in a worse place. He out of line, but he
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: ain't wrong.
- 1:08:20Speaker 8: Okay, wait, but wait. Who made, but how? Who made it?
- 1:08:25Speaker 8: How did it make it made?
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: How?
- 1:08:28Speaker 8: Big boom, not clapping.
- 1:08:29Speaker 5: Make one.
- 1:08:29Speaker 8: One world, one earth.
- 1:08:30Speaker 9: Why doom that nigga?
- 1:08:31Speaker 8: Why doom.
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: Why Doom?
- 1:08:43Speaker 5: Infinity Gauntlet.
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: Okay, so why? Because Doom. Why Doom? Because why not?
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: No.
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: Like Navy stated earlier, he's seen the pieces coming, so
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: he already has his own thing in place. One of
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: those things is he garnered the Infinity Gauntlet.
- 1:09:07Speaker 8: Okay, that makes more sense.
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: That's how he was able to hold all of reality together.
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: That was how he was able to... Not the Infinity
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: Gauntlet from the MCU. This is a totally... Not that
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: one where it's like gamma radiation and turn your arm
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: off and nothing like that one. This infinitely gauntlet, Doom
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: has worn, Black Panther has worn, many people have worn
- 1:09:28Speaker 2: this thing. Just attaining the gems is one thing. And
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: he managed to, he already, this was something, he's pretty
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: much like, while they are off doing this, this and this,
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: I'm going after this. because they are too they're running
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: like rats they're not gonna fix this I can I
- 1:09:56Speaker 2: know exactly what it's gonna take and still save whoever's
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: left and still make it in my image because let's
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: face it Doom is he's narcissistic we're just gonna put
- 1:10:09Speaker 2: that on the table it ain't no secret I love
- 1:10:13Speaker 2: when she does it I can't no.
- 1:10:17Speaker 5: Can we also say for the record how intelligent that
- 1:10:22Speaker 5: Jonathan wrote Doom that we find out that the Molecule
- 1:10:27Speaker 5: Man he had somehow gotten to him and he ended
- 1:10:31Speaker 5: up channeling all that power from the Beyonder into him.
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: Yeah. So for those who don't know who the Molecule
- 1:10:40Speaker 2: Man is He's a little bitch. He is.
- 1:10:44Speaker 5: That's what he was. He's a little bitch.
- 1:10:47Speaker 2: He is someone who has an infinite amount of power,
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: but doesn't have the brain capacity to really... To know
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: how to wield it? Not so much wield it, but
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: keep sane by wielding it.
- 1:11:05Speaker 5: Anybody in the space.
- 1:11:07Speaker 2: It's just like you have an immense amount of power.
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: You're damn near a genie.
- 1:11:16Speaker 8: So, is it the Ice King from Steven's universe?
- 1:11:21Speaker 2: Yes. Yes.
- 1:11:25Speaker 8: I do it for the kids.
- 1:11:26Speaker 5: Yes, ladies and gentlemen, he's a powerful idiot. He is
- 1:11:31Speaker 5: a powerful idiot. And he was able to influence him
- 1:11:34Speaker 5: to redirect all that power that was channeled from the
- 1:11:37Speaker 5: Beyonder into Doom.
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: Okay. It makes... When you, oh, I cannot remember his
- 1:11:46Speaker 2: name because they don't call him Molecule, man. They call
- 1:11:48Speaker 2: him by his very, his actual name. And he never
- 1:11:52Speaker 2: knows what reality he's in. He never knows what timeline
- 1:11:56Speaker 2: he's on.
- 1:11:56Speaker 8: That's comfortable.
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: Jesus. But he can do things.
- 1:12:00Speaker 5: He's in flux through time the whole time.
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: Yeah, he's literally in flux. And he's like in a white,
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: he's almost, he keeps himself in a white room. He's
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: like in a white room. He's Indian style, upside down.
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: And he's just You're not all there, but you got
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: all of this. So it's like you have to coerce him.
- 1:12:24Speaker 2: You have to kind of goad him into doing certain things.
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: Owen Reese. Owen Reese, that's it.
- 1:12:30Speaker 5: That's why I was trying to remember his name.
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: Yes. Mal knows. Very true. Bama. He's always hungry because
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: he's just in his head. He's too far. into his
- 1:12:44Speaker 2: head that he's too far gone. And Doom's thing is,
- 1:12:49Speaker 2: I got this. In order to get this, he's a
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: puzzle piece. And I can work with that. Because he's easily...
- 1:13:00Speaker 2: He can be easily manipulated, for real. When you have
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: someone who has omnipotent power, but doesn't contain the mental
- 1:13:11Speaker 2: faculties to... stay locked in, you can say and do whatever.
- 1:13:19Speaker 2: You can't say he's a bad guy. You can't say
- 1:13:21Speaker 2: he's a good guy. He's just there.
- 1:13:24Speaker 8: He's fucking crazy.
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: He is.
- 1:13:27Speaker 5: Even crazy people look at him and go, fuck. I'm good.
- 1:13:33Speaker 2: He's barely holding a coherent sentence because he'll say something,
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: makes sense. Next sentence, he's Kanye West. It's like it's
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: just all over the place. You're just like, black people
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: need to do this and then blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh,
- 1:13:50Speaker 2: wait a minute. I was with you for a second,
- 1:13:55Speaker 2: but wait a minute.
- 1:13:56Speaker 5: I know a lot of people like that.
- 1:14:00Speaker 8: Forgot you were crazy for two seconds.
- 1:14:02Speaker 2: Two seconds. Two seconds. It doesn't take long. It doesn't
- 1:14:07Speaker 2: take long. But The person that's like on the opposite
- 1:14:13Speaker 2: side of that for the power set is Franklin Richards.
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: He can create a whole world that he has, but
- 1:14:21Speaker 2: he's a kid. You know, so it's just like Owen Reese,
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: he can create anything out of reality. He's like he's
- 1:14:30Speaker 2: like a living reality stone. I can create this. I
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: can create... He's a walking... He's like a living genie
- 1:14:38Speaker 2: or whatever the case may be. He can get away.
- 1:14:40Speaker 9: With all the stuff, but he's... Key takeaway moments out
- 1:14:45Speaker 9: of Secret War's.
- 1:15:03Speaker 2: God King Doom ripping Thanos' spine out.
- 1:15:10Speaker 9: Wait, who did what to Thanos? I literally did not hear.
- 1:15:15Speaker 2: Doom. Doom ripped Thanos' spine out. Because, once again, it's
- 1:15:22Speaker 2: almost a civil war that has broken out again amongst
- 1:15:25Speaker 2: the heroes because you have S.H.I.E.L.D. hunting down the Illuminati,
- 1:15:28Speaker 2: you have Tony and Cap kind of going back and
- 1:15:30Speaker 2: forth saying, this shouldn't happen, this shouldn't happen, and this
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: shouldn't happen, and what should have been going on. It's
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: a lot of infighting. There's a lot of trying to escape,
- 1:15:39Speaker 2: quote unquote, shield.
- 1:15:40Speaker 5: And the Thors are the police.
- 1:15:42Speaker 2: And trying to stop Doom. Yeah, it was madness. And
- 1:15:47Speaker 2: Doom is the only one holding it together. And who
- 1:15:49Speaker 2: decides to show they bitch ass up? And amidst all
- 1:15:53Speaker 2: of this, Thanos. Talking cash shit, like he just got
- 1:15:59Speaker 2: off the farm eating his grits. Y'all can't tell me
- 1:16:02Speaker 2: that man wasn't making grits on that farm.
- 1:16:03Speaker 5: That man was fresh out of breakfast. Ready to go
- 1:16:06Speaker 5: do some shit.
- 1:16:07Speaker 2: He's like, I just had my sausage and my grits.
- 1:16:09Speaker 2: I'm ready to go. Come down there talking cash, money,
- 1:16:15Speaker 2: and walks up to Doom and Doom says, I do
- 1:16:18Speaker 2: not think so. Boom. Spine Mortal Kombat. Done. Fatality. Fatality.
- 1:16:30Speaker 2: It's a beautiful thing. Beautiful thing. Beautiful thing. And I'm
- 1:16:35Speaker 2: trying to remember how it all came together because, of course, comics.
- 1:16:40Speaker 2: Of course. It's like watching this latest season of American
- 1:16:44Speaker 2: Horror Story. What the fuck just happened? I don't know
- 1:16:51Speaker 2: what just happened. That didn't happen in the last episode.
- 1:16:56Speaker 2: Everything obviously goes back to normal. But for those who
- 1:17:01Speaker 2: want to do some light reading before December 18, I
- 1:17:04Speaker 2: don't write that.
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: Good luck.
- 1:17:10Speaker 2: Here's your homework. It's no, um, we're rooting for you.
- 1:17:15Speaker 5: We're cheering you on, buddy.
- 1:17:16Speaker 2: Uh, Avengers 2012, volume one, Avengers world in the builders arc, uh,
- 1:17:22Speaker 2: new Avengers, 2013, the Illuminati, which is the incursion story
- 1:17:26Speaker 2: and running alongside infinity, which is the crossover, uh, So
- 1:17:29Speaker 2: that's kind of space-faring stuff. Avengers and New Avengers, time
- 1:17:33Speaker 2: runs out. That's the final stretch of everything, which leads
- 1:17:37Speaker 2: into Secret Wars 2015. That's the payoff. So if you
- 1:17:42Speaker 2: want the full breadth of everything. And these are in trades.
- 1:17:46Speaker 2: These are in trades. Which I still need to get
- 1:17:48Speaker 2: my trades because my actual run is not here in
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: the house. It's at Mom Fury's house in the bunker.
- 1:17:56Speaker 5: So as Will cared for, it's just not accessible.
- 1:18:00Speaker 2: It's not accessible like right now. It's a 40 minute drive.
- 1:18:04Speaker 2: But it's in safe hands.
- 1:18:06Speaker 5: It's there.
- 1:18:08Speaker 2: So the question becomes in all of this, who was right? Cap,
- 1:18:13Speaker 2: Iron Man, or the Illuminati?
- 1:18:17Speaker 8: None of them niggas didn't stay all fucking long. If
- 1:18:24Speaker 8: a team project.
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: Had gone wrong.
- 1:18:30Speaker 8: They are the embodiment of what happens when a team
- 1:18:33Speaker 8: project goes wrong.
- 1:18:35Speaker 2: Every time the Illuminati get together, it always ends in shit.
- 1:18:43Speaker 2: Best intentions laid out every single time. Really, it is.
- 1:18:50Speaker 2: The latest thing... What's happening, Spartan? Spartan can attest to this.
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: Every time the Illuminati gets together, every time, something goes
- 1:19:04Speaker 2: to shit. It does. Because prior to this, what was
- 1:19:08Speaker 2: their thing? But Hulk had another rampage. What do we do?
- 1:19:14Speaker 2: Let's send him off to a... Reed finds a planet
- 1:19:19Speaker 2: in all his studies. He finds a peaceful planet and says,
- 1:19:23Speaker 2: let's send Bruce off to this peaceful ass planet because
- 1:19:27Speaker 2: Hulk likes to be alone anyway. Let's send him off
- 1:19:30Speaker 2: and be done. And best intentions. Best intentions. And what happens?
- 1:19:37Speaker 2: He gets knocked off course. lands on a battle planet,
- 1:19:43Speaker 2: which we get pieces of in Thor Ragnarok.
- 1:19:47Speaker 5: Planet Hulk.
- 1:19:50Speaker 2: Planet Hulk. And Hulk thrives there, becomes the Green King,
- 1:19:54Speaker 2: takes on a wife, the whole night. Happy as fuck.
- 1:19:59Speaker 2: Nobody messes with him, he's happy. However, people are, the
- 1:20:07Speaker 2: ship he crash landed in, all the species that were
- 1:20:11Speaker 2: there decided, we're going to build a monument in his honor.
- 1:20:18Speaker 2: Not knowing that the engine is nuclear. That causes this
- 1:20:26Speaker 2: amount of damage to the point that most of the
- 1:20:29Speaker 2: life is wiped out, including Hulk's wife, who is burying
- 1:20:34Speaker 2: his son, whom he did not know survived. Which pisses
- 1:20:39Speaker 2: him off. And guess where he's going? And he gets
- 1:20:43Speaker 2: his team together and says, we're going to Earth because
- 1:20:46Speaker 2: those bitches put a bomb in my ship. And the
- 1:20:48Speaker 2: case was, it wasn't a bomb. It wasn't a bomb.
- 1:20:52Speaker 2: It wasn't a bomb. It was just a nuclear engine.
- 1:20:56Speaker 2: And they were tapping away at it and boom, boom.
- 1:20:59Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think is going to happen? Right.
- 1:21:03Speaker 2: In other words, complete misunderstanding all the way around the board. However...
- 1:21:08Speaker 2: But bad optics. Bad optics.
- 1:21:12Speaker 6: It just goes to show you that a group of
- 1:21:15Speaker 6: so-called smart people can still make dumb decisions.
- 1:21:18Speaker 9: Every fucking day since January, goddamn.
- 1:21:23Speaker 5: Whatever.
- 1:21:24Speaker 2: Two years ago. You see how we brought that around?
- 1:21:27Speaker 2: We're like comedians.
- 1:21:29Speaker 5: Every day.
- 1:21:29Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying. I think that's another story
- 1:21:38Speaker 2: we'll try to break down is World War Hulk. Because, yeah,
- 1:21:43Speaker 2: World War Hulk, that led to a totally different story,
- 1:21:48Speaker 2: but that led to Hulk basically standing outside the ship.
- 1:21:53Speaker 2: This tells you just how intense his power is because
- 1:21:56Speaker 2: he can hold his breath for very long periods of time.
- 1:22:00Speaker 2: So the fact that they were in a planet that
- 1:22:02Speaker 2: was in a totally different part of the universe that
- 1:22:04Speaker 2: made it back to Earth And he sat outside the
- 1:22:06Speaker 2: ship the entire time because he was hot. He said,
- 1:22:11Speaker 2: when I get back to Earth, Reed, that is your
- 1:22:17Speaker 2: ass and everybody that's with you. And yeah, he got
- 1:22:24Speaker 2: it in.
- 1:22:25Speaker 5: This also kind of shows you how fucked up a
- 1:22:28Speaker 5: lot of these comic writers are.
- 1:22:29Speaker 4: Yep.
- 1:22:32Speaker 5: Because you create a scenario where, and truth be told,
- 1:22:37Speaker 5: Hulk is one of the most beloved characters in Marvel.
- 1:22:40Speaker 5: Because he is going through more shit than anybody. And
- 1:22:44Speaker 5: he still seems to come out and just figure it
- 1:22:47Speaker 5: out one way or another. You put him on a planet.
- 1:22:50Speaker 5: It was an accident. He went to the wrong planet.
- 1:22:52Speaker 5: But he had a life. He had a family. And everything.
- 1:22:56Speaker 5: And comics says, nah, this is too milquetoast. It's too easy. Nope.
- 1:23:00Speaker 2: This is fine.
- 1:23:01Speaker 5: Here's what we're going to do. We're going to make
- 1:23:03Speaker 5: something intentional and with good intent go sideways. And now
- 1:23:09Speaker 5: we're going to turn it into a vengeance story.
- 1:23:11Speaker 7: Why?
- 1:23:12Speaker 5: Because people love seeing Hulk go off on people. This
- 1:23:15Speaker 5: is amazing. We're going to make money.
- 1:23:18Speaker 6: And this is exactly why I say Hulk and Spider-Man
- 1:23:22Speaker 6: need to have their own crisis group.
- 1:23:24Speaker 2: Writers hate us. Writers hate us. This is why Peter
- 1:23:29Speaker 2: just says, you know what? I'm good. I don't need
- 1:23:33Speaker 2: to be on the team. I see what happens. I'm late.
- 1:23:37Speaker 2: You know what? It's not you. It's me. That's why
- 1:23:41Speaker 2: I went to pay. May's sick again. It's not us.
- 1:23:45Speaker 5: It's we.
- 1:23:47Speaker 6: This is why whenever Hulk finds Spider-Man, he's like, you're
- 1:23:52Speaker 6: all right.
- 1:23:53Speaker 2: I won't hurt you. And Spider-Man's going, thank God. The
- 1:23:59Speaker 2: last time we fought. It was hellfire. No, but those
- 1:24:05Speaker 2: are the types of stories. World War Hulk, Secret Wars,
- 1:24:09Speaker 2: Hickman's Run on the Avengers, those are really good story arcs.
- 1:24:13Speaker 2: Those are really good story arcs to sit back and say, damn,
- 1:24:18Speaker 2: who's going to do this? Because who's going to handle this?
- 1:24:23Speaker 2: Who can handle this? This is around the time where
- 1:24:25Speaker 2: Century was still hot. Yeah. Yeah. Mind you, Century is
- 1:24:32Speaker 2: an agoraphobe, a recovering drug addict, and let me see
- 1:24:38Speaker 2: if there are other places. Oh, he's got a problem
- 1:24:39Speaker 2: with the void because the void is him and he
- 1:24:42Speaker 2: is he. And so imagine Hulk saying, I'm taking Yankee Stadium.
- 1:24:49Speaker 2: That's going to be my casino. That's going to be
- 1:24:51Speaker 2: my coliseum. Mm-hmm. I'm going to fight the Illuminati. I'm
- 1:24:56Speaker 2: going to whoop all their ass. Keep it coming. And
- 1:25:02Speaker 2: he's just like, who next? Who next? Who next? And
- 1:25:06Speaker 2: to the point, he broke Reed's jaw. That leads into
- 1:25:10Speaker 2: a whole other storyline. That was justified, though. It was justified.
- 1:25:18Speaker 2: And that leads to them coercing Century to come out
- 1:25:26Speaker 2: and stop Hulk.
- 1:25:27Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
- 1:25:29Speaker 2: And which leads to the whole entire eastern seaboard being
- 1:25:33Speaker 2: shaken from, I think it was from New York, from
- 1:25:38Speaker 2: New York to the Midwest, I want to say. Again,
- 1:25:43Speaker 2: it just goes to show you smart people in one
- 1:25:45Speaker 2: room make dumb decisions.
- 1:25:47Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
- 1:25:47Speaker 5: It was from New York to Iowa.
- 1:25:49Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Yep. They felt that they were putting off that
- 1:25:55Speaker 2: much energy.
- 1:25:57Speaker 5: There was a panel where you saw Korn shivering, I
- 1:26:00Speaker 5: believe there was.
- 1:26:01Speaker 2: I was like, fuck. What do we do? Stay the
- 1:26:09Speaker 2: hell out of the way.
- 1:26:10Speaker 5: We got shaky Korn there, Chuck. We got shaky Korn.
- 1:26:14Speaker 5: Stay the fuck out.
- 1:26:14Speaker 2: Of the way. That is a definite stay out the way.
- 1:26:18Speaker 2: What did you say, Mal? Mal!
- 1:26:23Speaker 3: Now bruh now probably make a killing now and i
- 1:26:30Speaker 3: wanted to see you next month at pax unplug i
- 1:26:33Speaker 3: don't know if i'm just changing.
- 1:26:34Speaker 6: My i mean the name jack i mean the name
- 1:26:36Speaker 6: jackpot came from somewhere.
- 1:26:39Speaker 2: Wow no but those it's that type of storytelling from
- 1:26:44Speaker 2: this is why i like hickman's story to him because
- 1:26:47Speaker 2: i think i'm gonna cover x-men later on down the
- 1:26:49Speaker 2: line too uh It's the style of storytelling that he
- 1:26:54Speaker 2: has because it's never just one thing. He did it
- 1:26:57Speaker 2: with Fantastic Four where he set up several storylines and
- 1:27:03Speaker 2: the way he started out that run it ended with
- 1:27:07Speaker 2: a double page spread of Valeria's crayon drawing of random
- 1:27:12Speaker 2: things and you just thought it was kid drawings but
- 1:27:16Speaker 2: it plays out. That entire art plays out. I'm just
- 1:27:21Speaker 2: like That's how you write. Stephanie Williams is a prime example.
- 1:27:25Speaker 2: She has a story arc. Right now, that sister has
- 1:27:28Speaker 2: several story arcs. Jesus Christ.
- 1:27:32Speaker 9: We are well beyond several. I'm very certain we are passing.
- 1:27:38Speaker 2: Miss Williams is booked and busy. She is booked and busy.
- 1:27:42Speaker 5: I think the word multitudes would be appropriate.
- 1:27:45Speaker 2: Infinitum? That's even better.
- 1:27:50Speaker 6: See, I try to use that word in Scrabble, it
- 1:27:52Speaker 6: came against me.
- 1:27:54Speaker 2: Another one. It's like, another one. I'm like, don't let
- 1:27:58Speaker 2: me find out you got clones, Stephanie. When you have
- 1:28:03Speaker 2: good writers who can tell story arcs that have lasting impacts,
- 1:28:09Speaker 2: and you can always revisit and basically once you're done
- 1:28:15Speaker 2: with said story arc or said book, that person that
- 1:28:18Speaker 2: got a follow-up Hey, can we start over? Can we
- 1:28:24Speaker 2: do Marvel now? Can we do the Heroic Age right now?
- 1:28:30Speaker 5: I forgot about the Heroic Age.
- 1:28:32Speaker 2: Oh, gosh. I tried to, but hey.
- 1:28:36Speaker 6: I was going to ask. I know I got into
- 1:28:38Speaker 6: this late.
- 1:28:39Speaker 2: How much of Hickman's run did we cover?
- 1:28:41Speaker 6: Because did you already get to Time Runs Out?
- 1:28:44Speaker 2: We did. We covered the entire run. If you want
- 1:28:49Speaker 2: to talk about it, that's fine. I'm just catching up.
- 1:28:51Speaker 6: Like I said, I'm between this and midterm, so I'm
- 1:28:53Speaker 6: hopping in where I fit in.
- 1:28:56Speaker 2: Yeah, we covered Time Runs Out when I got out
- 1:28:58Speaker 2: of Madagascar.
- 1:28:59Speaker 5: So, okay.
- 1:29:00Speaker 8: Go ahead. One more reason to hate the goddamn MCU
- 1:29:03Speaker 8: for fucking shit up when they didn't have to.
- 1:29:06Speaker 9: So, basically, they, in the MCU, multiverse of madness, they
- 1:29:14Speaker 9: already killed the Illuminati.
- 1:29:16Speaker 8: So, what the fuck are we supposed to do?
- 1:29:18Speaker 2: That was a version of the Illuminati. A variant of
- 1:29:21Speaker 2: the Illuminati.
- 1:29:22Speaker 5: But not the version.
- 1:29:24Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
- 1:29:25Speaker 8: But it was the setting for what y'all are talking about, right?
- 1:29:31Speaker 2: It was a different Earth. They do have the Illuminati. See,
- 1:29:34Speaker 2: this is why.
- 1:29:35Speaker 8: Well, no, I mean, like, thinking about.
- 1:29:40Speaker 8: What the fuck? The Star Girl.
- 1:29:43Speaker 2: America.
- 1:29:44Speaker 9: America's got this.
- 1:29:48Speaker 8: It's not the right word. So between her and Strange,
- 1:29:51Speaker 8: they get sucked into that one.
- 1:29:55Speaker 8: And it looks like, it does look like it's a
- 1:29:58Speaker 8: mission control type of, I.
- 1:30:01Speaker 2: Don't know how to explain it.
- 1:30:03Speaker 8: So it sounds like they already, it sounds like that
- 1:30:06Speaker 8: was supposed to be it.
- 1:30:08Speaker 2: Well, to that extent of where Strange, because again, that
- 1:30:12Speaker 2: was all Strange kind of, this was Strange storytelling. Like,
- 1:30:15Speaker 2: they tried to make it seem like the universe that's
- 1:30:18Speaker 2: related to Strange basically pulled them. It's like the Spireverse.
- 1:30:20Speaker 2: They tried to pull it into a variant of him,
- 1:30:24Speaker 2: not really the actual overall Illuminati we'll get to know.
- 1:30:27Speaker 2: So I know it doesn't make any sense, but that's
- 1:30:29Speaker 2: the way they try to make it seem like that
- 1:30:31Speaker 2: Illuminati was, was, was related to strange just because, Hey,
- 1:30:35Speaker 2: you're strange, almost killed us. And so we got to
- 1:30:39Speaker 2: make sure that doesn't happen again. So that's what, that's,
- 1:30:42Speaker 2: that's what I mean. It's, it's a really, it's a
- 1:30:45Speaker 2: really doctor way of explaining it, but that's not what
- 1:30:48Speaker 2: we're going to know.
- 1:30:50Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:30:50Speaker 2: It's almost a throwaway. Because the MCU that we know,
- 1:30:57Speaker 2: the main MCU that we know with Chris Evans, Helmsworth,
- 1:31:02Speaker 2: that is what I consider the 616. That is the
- 1:31:05Speaker 2: 616 Earth. That is the main Earth of Marvel. That's it.
- 1:31:09Speaker 2: Earth Prime. Earth Prime. That's Earth Prime. What Doctor Strange
- 1:31:13Speaker 2: came across is like Earth X-999999. Right. That has a
- 1:31:16Speaker 2: version of the Illuminati And they just happened to say, hey,
- 1:31:24Speaker 2: let's bring Patrick Stewart in. Let's bring their version of
- 1:31:27Speaker 2: Captain Marvel in. Let's bring in John Krasinski to do Mr. Fantastic. Who,
- 1:31:33Speaker 2: by the way, at said time, Mr. Fantastic was sporting
- 1:31:36Speaker 2: a beard. So it was almost a great fit. So
- 1:31:40Speaker 2: they brought this bring in. And since we don't have
- 1:31:43Speaker 2: Captain America, let's bring in Captain Britain, which is Peggy Carter.
- 1:31:47Speaker 2: So let's bring her in. So it was their version
- 1:31:50Speaker 2: of of the Illuminati. Black Bolt was still there because
- 1:31:52Speaker 2: that's Black Bolt from the Inhumans TV show. Sorry. I mean,
- 1:31:58Speaker 2: but it was really a throwaway. To be honest with you,
- 1:32:00Speaker 2: it was a throwaway Illuminati just because we want to
- 1:32:03Speaker 2: see John Krasinski as Mr. Fantastic. We got that.
- 1:32:07Speaker 6: We want to see Patrick Stewart, Sir Patrick Stewart, rest
- 1:32:09Speaker 6: in peace.
- 1:32:10Speaker 2: We got to see him. We got to see Photon.
- 1:32:12Speaker 2: We got to see, you know, they gave us hope
- 1:32:16Speaker 2: and then they destroyed it.
- 1:32:17Speaker 5: Immediately.
- 1:32:18Speaker 2: Immediately.
- 1:32:19Speaker 7: Immediately.
- 1:32:21Speaker 2: It was like, okay, we got the Illuminati. Would we
- 1:32:23Speaker 2: see the Illuminati in the main MCU?
- 1:32:26Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 1:32:30Speaker 8: It feels like they're going to do it in Doom.
- 1:32:32Speaker 8: You've got Reed. You've got technically... You should have Strange.
- 1:32:36Speaker 2: They're going to do it in Doom.
- 1:32:38Speaker 6: It's a perfect setup to combat Doom.
- 1:32:40Speaker 2: I will give it that. It's a perfect setup.
- 1:32:43Speaker 8: And it's a way to usher in the new class, too.
- 1:32:48Speaker 2: That's because that's what they're... That is something that they
- 1:32:52Speaker 2: were always going to do. And I'm glad that Hickman
- 1:32:57Speaker 2: is actually a part of this whole thing. They're consulting
- 1:33:02Speaker 2: Hickman on Doomsday and on Secret Wars. They're using his blueprint.
- 1:33:08Speaker 2: So I would love to see what they do. Now
- 1:33:11Speaker 2: that they've got someone who's actually done the work, I
- 1:33:17Speaker 2: would love to see how that turns out.
- 1:33:19Speaker 6: Although I, although I am with Kira on that one,
- 1:33:22Speaker 6: that might be the, that might be the red herring
- 1:33:24Speaker 6: that basically doom is doom is going to require, you know,
- 1:33:28Speaker 6: somebody to make the hard choices. And I guarantee you
- 1:33:31Speaker 6: that line gets said, that's going to be our day giveaway.
- 1:33:33Speaker 6: We're getting the Illuminati that the problem that I can
- 1:33:36Speaker 6: see somebody want to read and says, someone's got to
- 1:33:38Speaker 6: make the hard calls and it's not you. So that
- 1:33:42Speaker 6: could lead up to where we see the Illuminati, which
- 1:33:44Speaker 6: is fine. Um, I'm just curious how they're going to
- 1:33:48Speaker 6: go about it.
- 1:33:48Speaker 2: Or a form of... Or a form of... Maybe not
- 1:33:53Speaker 2: the official, but you're right. A form. Because they have Reed.
- 1:33:59Speaker 2: They have Steve. But he's probably like, look, I'm just here.
- 1:34:04Speaker 2: It's bench morning. You got Sam over there. You know?
- 1:34:10Speaker 2: The crazy part is, I would see Steve... True to form,
- 1:34:14Speaker 2: I don't think Steve would be a part of it
- 1:34:15Speaker 2: in this MCU. you know what right now let me
- 1:34:22Speaker 2: take that back that would be the twist that would
- 1:34:28Speaker 2: actually be the twist that he would join the Illuminati
- 1:34:30Speaker 2: thinking that if we're going to make decisions we are
- 1:34:33Speaker 2: going to make the hard calls but we are not
- 1:34:36Speaker 2: going to turn into the same monsters we're trying to
- 1:34:38Speaker 2: stop I would say they could use and not to
- 1:34:43Speaker 2: lean on him playing this role because once again we
- 1:34:46Speaker 2: have Sam I would use him as somebody like Commander Rogers.
- 1:34:55Speaker 2: He just makes certain shot calls. Other than that, he's
- 1:34:58Speaker 2: probably just like, hey, man, I'm really out the game.
- 1:35:01Speaker 2: I got a wife. I got a kid. I'm like,
- 1:35:04Speaker 2: I don't want to do this right now. I can't
- 1:35:08Speaker 2: turn it away. Call me when it comes down to
- 1:35:11Speaker 2: some bullshit like this again, but don't call me too soon.
- 1:35:14Speaker 2: But it's also.
- 1:35:15Speaker 6: But it's also a crazy way of actually bringing back
- 1:35:17Speaker 6: throwaway characters. You can bring back Joel Adetofor's Baron Mordo.
- 1:35:22Speaker 6: You can literally bring him back into the fold in
- 1:35:25Speaker 6: this particular situation.
- 1:35:27Speaker 2: Yeah. I think this is something they have been building
- 1:35:33Speaker 2: towards bringing in a new cast. They have been doing that.
- 1:35:38Speaker 2: I think it's just circumstances aside, just kind of interfering.
- 1:35:44Speaker 2: We know how these things run. You know, whether it's
- 1:35:46Speaker 2: just filming schedules or story beat changes or whatever the
- 1:35:50Speaker 2: case may be. Because let's face it, Multiverse of Madness,
- 1:35:52Speaker 2: while not a bad film, could have been better. Oh, yeah.
- 1:35:58Speaker 2: Could have been better. Y'all wasted my Wanda. Y'all wasted
- 1:36:01Speaker 2: my Wanda. I like that version you gave me, but
- 1:36:04Speaker 2: y'all wasted my Wanda.
- 1:36:06Speaker 6: Only to sit there and tell us, oh, well, she died.
- 1:36:09Speaker 2: No, she didn't. I reflect. I refuse.
- 1:36:14Speaker 6: Wanda decided to give herself a break.
- 1:36:17Speaker 2: That's all that is. I refuse to say I refuse
- 1:36:19Speaker 2: that y'all saying she was like, I can't have my kids.
- 1:36:22Speaker 2: I ain't got my husband. I'm gone. I ain't got
- 1:36:25Speaker 2: my brother. I'm gone. No.
- 1:36:28Speaker 6: All I have is the Darkhold and you see she
- 1:36:31Speaker 6: never gave it up.
- 1:36:32Speaker 2: They just said she destroyed every other version. They didn't
- 1:36:35Speaker 2: say she destroyed the version she had in her hands.
- 1:36:38Speaker 6: I mean, she was living embodiment. She's a living embodiment
- 1:36:42Speaker 6: of the Darkhold.
- 1:36:42Speaker 2: Wanda's a nexus being. Even the version she took over
- 1:36:49Speaker 2: had some level of power. Wanda's always going to be Wanda.
- 1:36:54Speaker 2: Is it bad that I'm hoping not to go completely
- 1:36:56Speaker 2: off topic? Is it bad that I'm hoping the.
- 1:36:58Speaker 6: Last two episodes of Vision Quest we see a hint
- 1:37:00Speaker 6: of Wanda for no reason?
- 1:37:01Speaker 2: I wouldn't be mad. I want to know what it is.
- 1:37:05Speaker 8: Red ass in his goddamn shirt.
- 1:37:09Speaker 2: I'm not saying a full-on scene. I'm talking like a
- 1:37:11Speaker 2: little hint. Like, we are like, this is her family
- 1:37:14Speaker 2: back together. Quit playing with me.
- 1:37:17Speaker 5: Right.
- 1:37:18Speaker 2: I'm just saying. I mean, that to me would be like, oh, well,
- 1:37:21Speaker 2: that's his, that's Bitch's way of knowing, yeah, Wanda's not dead.
- 1:37:25Speaker 2: As much as L-Tron wants to keep pointing it out.
- 1:37:27Speaker 2: People say, but they showed the body. They showed a body.
- 1:37:30Speaker 2: Doesn't mean it's the body. It doesn't mean it's the body.
- 1:37:35Speaker 2: I mean, come on now. We watching up Stephen King
- 1:37:37Speaker 2: to know a body doesn't mean anything. I review that
- 1:37:38Speaker 2: continuity in the name of Stan Lee. Thank you. Dang. Like,
- 1:37:43Speaker 2: that is, that makes, I really don't like that. Only
- 1:37:47Speaker 2: to find out that the people that did that didn't
- 1:37:49Speaker 2: really look at WandaVision. And I said, well, how could,
- 1:37:52Speaker 2: because the main question that did come up for me
- 1:37:54Speaker 2: in WandaVision was, why does, I mean, I got what
- 1:37:58Speaker 2: happened at the end of WandaVision, but because part of
- 1:38:01Speaker 2: her was looking at the dark hole while the other
- 1:38:03Speaker 2: part was not. Right. But you mean to tell me
- 1:38:06Speaker 2: she went full-on tilt evil?
- 1:38:10Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
- 1:38:10Speaker 2: By the time we get to Doctor Strange? Like, she
- 1:38:13Speaker 2: went full-on tilt evil?
- 1:38:17Speaker 6: I mean, I can't see her sitting there thinking that
- 1:38:18Speaker 6: her way was the only way. And the whole thing was,
- 1:38:21Speaker 6: you know, where were you? Trying to put out to
- 1:38:23Speaker 6: the Avengers, where were all you guys when I was
- 1:38:26Speaker 6: in my depression? Where were you when I was depressed?
- 1:38:30Speaker 6: and lost my family, where were you guys? The whole
- 1:38:33Speaker 6: thing about.
- 1:38:33Speaker 2: She wasn't. I mean, she wasn't wrong. She was out
- 1:38:36Speaker 2: of line, but she wasn't wrong.
- 1:38:38Speaker 6: I mean, she didn't have to kidnap an entire town
- 1:38:40Speaker 6: to hold them hostage, but I mean, I get it.
- 1:38:42Speaker 5: Well, we know Bucky had jungle fever, so we knew
- 1:38:45Speaker 5: where he was.
- 1:38:46Speaker 6: But Bucky was enjoying shea butter and being released from bondage.
- 1:38:50Speaker 2: He's still eating cookies and cream cake that he brought
- 1:38:52Speaker 2: to the party. When a beautiful woman from Wakanda whispered
- 1:39:00Speaker 2: Russian names and you didn't switch over while your luxurious
- 1:39:04Speaker 2: hair was just flowing in the Wakandian breeze, you felt home.
- 1:39:08Speaker 2: The fact that he knew not to get into a
- 1:39:10Speaker 2: fight with Adora and then whipped and whooped John's ass
- 1:39:13Speaker 2: says a lot.
- 1:39:14Speaker 6: Like I said, the most disrespectful ass whooping in MCU history.
- 1:39:20Speaker 2: He's like, we gotta stop him. No, we don't. They
- 1:39:27Speaker 2: will disarm you with a smile before you see the spear. So,
- 1:39:35Speaker 2: the actors really do read the comic. As a matter
- 1:39:38Speaker 2: of fact, Elizabeth Olsen will tell you about Wanda's story runs. So,
- 1:39:43Speaker 2: she reads. Benedict Cumberbatch, he reads Doctor Strange books. what's
- 1:39:50Speaker 2: his name John Bertinall was he got some fire yeah
- 1:39:56Speaker 2: they was just like he went there to go get
- 1:39:58Speaker 2: a bunch of Punisher books and dudes said no you
- 1:40:00Speaker 2: don't want those you want these so he's written you
- 1:40:03Speaker 2: know these people do Tom Holland has read Spider-Man books
- 1:40:07Speaker 2: hell Tom Holland no shit Tom Holland is Spider-Man the
- 1:40:11Speaker 2: man I.
- 1:40:11Speaker 6: Mean when you're a character but he played the work
- 1:40:13Speaker 6: though But that's what I'm saying, though. There's actors that
- 1:40:17Speaker 6: care so much about the lore that they know it,
- 1:40:20Speaker 6: and then.
- 1:40:20Speaker 2: You have actors that are just... Okay, that I agree.
- 1:40:23Speaker 2: He says, I mean the writers. Yeah, I agree.
- 1:40:25Speaker 6: Oh, well, that's the Kevin Feige problem. It goes right
- 1:40:27Speaker 6: back to Blade. Blade had plenty of writers you could
- 1:40:30Speaker 6: have went to. You chose not to.
- 1:40:32Speaker 2: You had plenty of content to go to and chose
- 1:40:35Speaker 2: not to. You chose not to. You have, what, over
- 1:40:38Speaker 2: almost 80 years, 80 years.
- 1:40:45Speaker 2: Of content that you can pick from you don't have
- 1:40:47Speaker 2: to do everything beat by beat page by page but
- 1:40:50Speaker 2: you have 80 years of content and chose not to
- 1:40:54Speaker 2: use it how many times have.
- 1:40:56Speaker 5: We seen in the past where we've seen a property
- 1:40:59Speaker 5: pop up and the only thing we could ask is
- 1:41:01Speaker 5: did you read this the best example was the Incredible
- 1:41:05Speaker 5: Hulk TV show with Bill Bixby why did they decide
- 1:41:11Speaker 5: to write this man as.
- 1:41:12Speaker 2: A drifter.
- 1:41:15Speaker 5: Why? Every time we saw him, we saw his ass
- 1:41:18Speaker 5: and his thumb as he's going up the street, going
- 1:41:21Speaker 5: up the road. I'm going, why is he the drifter?
- 1:41:24Speaker 2: You know why?
- 1:41:26Speaker 6: You know why they made him that? You know what
- 1:41:27Speaker 6: I blame? I blame Highway to Heaven.
- 1:41:31Speaker 2: Oh my God.
- 1:41:33Speaker 6: You want to know why I blame? You know why
- 1:41:34Speaker 6: I blame Highway to Heaven?
- 1:41:36Speaker 2: Why? What was the ending in every episode of Highway
- 1:41:39Speaker 2: to Heaven? What was Mr. Michael Billy? Always walking to
- 1:41:42Speaker 2: the next town. Walking on the street, hitchhiking. What is
- 1:41:47Speaker 2: the Hulk doing?
- 1:41:48Speaker 6: At the end of every episode. Walking along the street, hitchhiking.
- 1:41:54Speaker 2: Both shows came out around the same time. That's where
- 1:41:57Speaker 2: you find out that it was the 70s and the 80s.
- 1:42:01Speaker 2: It was the late 80s or early 80s. And they're
- 1:42:03Speaker 2: just kind of like, oh, we got to make him
- 1:42:06Speaker 2: go time to time. So he meets different types of people.
- 1:42:09Speaker 2: And again, there's plenty of material for the Hulk. I
- 1:42:11Speaker 2: like the Hulk because... The Hulk is one of those
- 1:42:14Speaker 2: stories that doesn't get visited enough. It is literally one
- 1:42:17Speaker 2: of those stories that doesn't get visited enough because you
- 1:42:20Speaker 2: don't want to go into the reason. I said, there's
- 1:42:22Speaker 2: a psychological trauma behind that that they could have gone into.
- 1:42:26Speaker 2: I mean, you could have gone to the story of
- 1:42:29Speaker 2: Banner treating Hulk like a spaceship. Well, part of the
- 1:42:34Speaker 2: reason why, and I don't think we're going to get
- 1:42:37Speaker 2: a Hulk film, period. I'm not going to hold you.
- 1:42:42Speaker 2: Universal will not let go.
- 1:42:44Speaker 6: Pretty much.
- 1:42:46Speaker 2: They will not let it go. And I'm just like,
- 1:42:50Speaker 2: people are wanting a solo film, and I get it.
- 1:42:53Speaker 2: It'd be great if you knew how to dive into
- 1:42:55Speaker 2: that world. But until Universal lets it go, we're never
- 1:43:00Speaker 2: going to get it.
- 1:43:01Speaker 6: And Universal will sit on those rights until they gather dust.
- 1:43:06Speaker 2: That's it. They're the last bastion of holding on outside
- 1:43:13Speaker 2: of sony but sony was just like hey we'll play
- 1:43:15Speaker 2: nice we'll play nice with marvel if we get a
- 1:43:22Speaker 2: piece of the action and it was the best decision
- 1:43:26Speaker 2: they've made but that's the crazy part that sony literally
- 1:43:30Speaker 2: allowed the rights to be borrowed you made your money
- 1:43:33Speaker 2: back five times over probably 10 times over at this
- 1:43:35Speaker 2: point why not continue that relationship I mean, what? Brand
- 1:43:40Speaker 2: New Day hit a billion by now, didn't it? It's 2.2. Oh,
- 1:43:42Speaker 2: 2 billion. My bad. But still, it's just... Residuals. I'm
- 1:43:49Speaker 2: just saying. It's like... Again, with Universal, they're going to
- 1:43:53Speaker 2: own to the Hulk because, number one, you had a
- 1:43:56Speaker 2: terrible Hulk story with Bama. Don't worry. Eric Bana wasn't
- 1:44:00Speaker 2: a bad Hulk. Edward Norton.
- 1:44:01Speaker 5: I think he did a decent job with what he had. Yeah.
- 1:44:04Speaker 2: Edward Norton wasn't a bad Hulk. But for some odd reason.
- 1:44:09Speaker 6: It's like you guys go to writers and directors that.
- 1:44:12Speaker 2: Refuse to read a goddamn comic. Yeah. Refuse.
- 1:44:18Speaker 5: And that's been the long-standing complaint from any production of any,
- 1:44:23Speaker 5: whether it's Marvel, DC, or Independent. Failure of doing the
- 1:44:29Speaker 5: studying and the research into that particular character.
- 1:44:34Speaker 6: I mean, look at Spike TV when they did Blade
- 1:44:36Speaker 6: the series with Sticky Fingers.
- 1:44:38Speaker 2: Exactly. Was it campy? Yes.
- 1:44:41Speaker 6: But at least that attempt was made. It was campy
- 1:44:45Speaker 6: all the way. I'm just saying. But an attempt was made.
- 1:44:49Speaker 5: So, Spartan, you heard, and this is off the beat path,
- 1:44:53Speaker 5: but I just want to mention this. You heard that
- 1:44:56Speaker 5: they're going to do a series based off the comic Crossed.
- 1:45:03Speaker 5: There's a trailer on YouTube right now.
- 1:45:08Speaker 2: That's interesting.
- 1:45:10Speaker 5: I never thought that, I never thought that comic would
- 1:45:13Speaker 5: ever become a show because that comic is out there. Yeah.
- 1:45:23Speaker 5: Oh boy. And I saw this trailer. I said, dear Lord,
- 1:45:26Speaker 5: you gotta be kidding me.
- 1:45:28Speaker 2: Well, what I'm noticing right now, that's not the big
- 1:45:31Speaker 2: budget films, but what, like Amazon, Amazon is taking a
- 1:45:36Speaker 2: lot of, uh, Big swings? Yeah, they're taking a lot
- 1:45:40Speaker 2: of properties and flipping them to shows. Rings of Power,
- 1:45:45Speaker 2: Lord of the Rings, Rings of Power, Halo, Fallout, I
- 1:45:52Speaker 2: think there's word of Castlevania.
- 1:45:56Speaker 6: See, that's... Fallout, Amazon probably did well with Fallout.
- 1:46:02Speaker 2: Not knocking that. It's a Fallout fan. I love it.
- 1:46:04Speaker 2: They really....
- 1:46:07Speaker 6: Really committed themselves to the lore there. Not knocking that.
- 1:46:11Speaker 6: They even did well with, shoot, what was the other one?
- 1:46:14Speaker 2: I mean, the boys. Again, boys.
- 1:46:16Speaker 6: You really could have continued the spinoff.
- 1:46:19Speaker 2: You could have, but I understand. You could have got
- 1:46:21Speaker 2: another season out of it. You could have.
- 1:46:24Speaker 6: But at the same time, you want to do Castlevania.
- 1:46:27Speaker 6: It's just like Amazon Prime doing God of War.
- 1:46:29Speaker 2: I'm concerned. That's what it was. That's the other one,
- 1:46:32Speaker 2: God of War. Because already, Ryan Hurst, I don't know
- 1:46:35Speaker 2: what this man did that he tore a pec, and
- 1:46:38Speaker 2: now Dave Bautista went back to old school Bautista, Mr.
- 1:46:42Speaker 2: 325 pounds, looks like he can move a mountain, his
- 1:46:45Speaker 2: shadow's a shadow. I worry about your trying, and again,
- 1:46:49Speaker 2: this is just me and my concerns. It's the same
- 1:46:52Speaker 2: way with Halo.
- 1:46:54Speaker 6: I'm thinking you're going to set expectations so high that
- 1:46:58Speaker 6: you're not going to be able to, your story's going
- 1:47:00Speaker 6: to suffer because of it.
- 1:47:02Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:47:03Speaker 2: That's what I'm afraid of. Your story is going to suck.
- 1:47:05Speaker 8: But is that his fault or the writers?
- 1:47:08Speaker 2: I blame everybody. Batista is just the job. All of
- 1:47:13Speaker 2: the above. I'm going to say it. Everybody get it.
- 1:47:18Speaker 8: Batista has a lot of my respect.
- 1:47:20Speaker 9: I'm not going to let him take the slander quite
- 1:47:23Speaker 9: as much as everybody else.
- 1:47:25Speaker 2: It's just like Pablo Shriver who pretty much played Master
- 1:47:31Speaker 2: Chief on Halo.
- 1:47:33Speaker 6: When he sat there and said, when he was asked,
- 1:47:35Speaker 6: do you think the writers and the showrunner went in
- 1:47:38Speaker 6: a direction that the books and the game did not show.
- 1:47:42Speaker 2: What Halo really was? He goes, we don't care. It
- 1:47:45Speaker 2: was our project.
- 1:47:46Speaker 6: We want to show what we want to show, and
- 1:47:48Speaker 6: we're proud of it. You know what that tells me?
- 1:47:50Speaker 6: That's an actor that does not care.
- 1:47:51Speaker 5: Nope, usually gives not a damn.
- 1:47:53Speaker 2: And then you have Henry Cavill, who was doing The Witcher,
- 1:47:56Speaker 2: who has every thought in the world that knows the lore.
- 1:47:59Speaker 6: This man knows the Witcher lore.
- 1:48:02Speaker 2: He's a nerd! This man quoted scripture from the Book
- 1:48:08Speaker 2: of Elves.
- 1:48:09Speaker 6: The Book of Elves is over 1,200 pages. And this
- 1:48:14Speaker 6: man can quote it. But, you know, y'all wanted to
- 1:48:18Speaker 6: go with the other.
- 1:48:19Speaker 5: This man's blood type is Legos.
- 1:48:21Speaker 2: I'm just saying. Legos and Warhammer. Yep.
- 1:48:25Speaker 5: A 40k player. A 40k player!
- 1:48:29Speaker 2: And that is exactly why I'm not worried about Warhammer
- 1:48:32Speaker 2: and I'm not worried about Highlander. I'm not worried about
- 1:48:34Speaker 2: either of those two projects he's got. When you have someone.
- 1:48:39Speaker 2: That's in the acting realm that is a true fan,
- 1:48:44Speaker 2: they're going to go 110. Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. They will.
- 1:48:50Speaker 2: They will. Like, I'm bringing my A game. I never thought.
- 1:48:54Speaker 2: I never knew. And we see it. We see who
- 1:49:00Speaker 2: the fans are. David Tennant was a fan of Doctor Who. Mm-hmm.
- 1:49:05Speaker 5: Fan.
- 1:49:05Speaker 2: A show that ran for 60 years.
- 1:49:08Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.
- 1:49:11Speaker 2: Who would have thought this man would not only play
- 1:49:13Speaker 2: one of my favorite doctors, but would marry the doctor
- 1:49:18Speaker 2: that he was in love with, that he loved watching,
- 1:49:20Speaker 2: would marry the daughter. What was it? The sixth doctor
- 1:49:25Speaker 2: or seventh doctor? Yeah, the sixth. He was the sixth doctor.
- 1:49:28Speaker 5: It was Colin Baker.
- 1:49:30Speaker 2: Yeah. He would marry Colin Baker's daughter, which would make
- 1:49:34Speaker 2: him the son-in-law of the doctor. Again, You're talking about meta.
- 1:49:42Speaker 6: Wow. Also, shout out to Matt Smith, Peter Capaldi, and
- 1:49:45Speaker 6: that one black man, and of course, Mr. Nakagawa, who
- 1:49:49Speaker 6: should have got another freaking season.
- 1:49:51Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:49:52Speaker 2: I like that season. Very sharply dressed, too.
- 1:49:55Speaker 6: Yeah, that man was on point. Afro and all. So
- 1:49:58Speaker 6: that tells me that they had a couple of us
- 1:50:00Speaker 6: stylists on that set for a British company.
- 1:50:03Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, you don't wear that just any damn way.
- 1:50:05Speaker 2: That's good fits. Mm-mm. Even the barbershop episode.
- 1:50:11Speaker 5: I wish they had just got it right because Christopher
- 1:50:13Speaker 5: Eccleston deserved another season because that season he was amazing.
- 1:50:17Speaker 6: The thing about it was, it was only because him
- 1:50:20Speaker 6: and the showrunner had beef.
- 1:50:24Speaker 2: To this day, to this day, he still does not
- 1:50:29Speaker 2: like that dude. To this day, he does not. That's
- 1:50:33Speaker 2: a whole lot of hatred. He's been asked about it
- 1:50:35Speaker 2: within the past two years. The the look of disdain
- 1:50:40Speaker 2: that Eccleston has for that man. When I say, when
- 1:50:45Speaker 2: they asked him about it, he literally started to sentence with, just, damn.
- 1:50:53Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, damn, you still hate him.
- 1:50:57Speaker 6: With a passion. But that's what I'm saying. When you
- 1:51:01Speaker 6: get that care, when you care about something, like, D.C.,
- 1:51:05Speaker 6: We knew the entire cast of Justice League. Everybody knew
- 1:51:08Speaker 6: the character they played.
- 1:51:10Speaker 2: I mean, shoot. Nathan Fillion knew Guy Gardner. What's-his-face, I've
- 1:51:17Speaker 2: got the guy's name already, Mr. Terrific, knew his character.
- 1:51:20Speaker 2: They all knew the background on their character. And it
- 1:51:24Speaker 2: wasn't just, oh, this is standard knowledge. No, they dig deep. Yeah.
- 1:51:29Speaker 2: Which goes, again, to show you. There's a behind-the-scenes shot
- 1:51:32Speaker 2: of David Cornswit talking with guns. about the purpose of
- 1:51:37Speaker 2: what superman is doing and they're almost in a shouting
- 1:51:40Speaker 2: match but it's a passionate shouting match it's not like
- 1:51:43Speaker 2: a hateful type of thing they're trying to get to
- 1:51:46Speaker 2: a certain point and when they find the point and
- 1:51:49Speaker 2: that's what gun says and that's that's that's it right
- 1:51:51Speaker 2: there that's the point i'm looking for and now he's
- 1:51:53Speaker 2: like okay let's shoot this thing and it's freaking perfect
- 1:51:58Speaker 2: and it's and that's why and that's what i'm getting
- 1:52:00Speaker 2: at that's why If you're going to do Castlevania, which
- 1:52:02Speaker 2: again is one of my favorites, all the way up
- 1:52:05Speaker 2: to Lords of Shadow, if you're going to do that game,
- 1:52:09Speaker 2: there is a fandom behind it.
- 1:52:11Speaker 6: And I fear if you don't do it right, it
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- 1:52:17Speaker 6: And don't get me wrong, Amazon Prime has done fine
- 1:52:21Speaker 6: so far, but Castlevania is one of those things that
- 1:52:25Speaker 6: people have passed on that project for a reason. It's
- 1:52:29Speaker 6: just like Metal Gear. We'll never see a Metal Gear
- 1:52:32Speaker 6: TV show. Konami wants somebody.
- 1:52:34Speaker 2: To take it.
- 1:52:35Speaker 6: No director will touch it. No actor will do it.
- 1:52:39Speaker 6: So what does that mean? That might as well be
- 1:52:41Speaker 6: kryptonite in the entertainment world.
- 1:52:42Speaker 2: They don't know how to execute it.
- 1:52:45Speaker 6: Yeah, but the one person that could, he might as
- 1:52:49Speaker 6: well be excommunicado.
- 1:52:51Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, people, this was a good episode.
- 1:52:58Speaker 1: It was.
- 1:52:59Speaker 2: Because I love talking comics. I miss free comic book day.
- 1:53:03Speaker 2: That's when me and the Scoobies get together and do
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- 1:54:13Speaker 2: Too much stuff. Too much stuff is happening one time.
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- 1:54:20Speaker 2: I know I'm pretty much doing the Pelican thing. I apologize. Yeah,
- 1:54:23Speaker 2: we're going to talk about that tomorrow, what's going on
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- 1:54:30Speaker 6: That being said, of course, myself, Tafari TV, and Show
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