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- 0:45is Football at four, and it's Adam Kaplan from the
- 0:47Inside the Birds podcast and Inside the Birds dot Com
- 0:51with us right now on the Sports Bash. Adam Man,
- 0:54this team relentless. They just keep making moves and making
- 0:57moves and doing stuff here. They trade for a running
- 1:00back last night, and obviously people saying, wait, why did
- 1:03you need a running back? Well, it seems like things
- 1:05are starting to trickle out today.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Yeah, well, here's the problem. Shipley got hurt with the
- 1:10rib injury was I think limits of six plays and
- 1:13because of that and AJ Dillon is look aj Dillon,
- 1:17it just doesn't have explosiveness. And the guy that they
- 1:20traded for will serve two roles. Once Tank Bigsby knows
- 1:24what he's doing in the offense, which could be this,
- 1:26people'll see he's past the physical so he'll he's on
- 1:30the football team. Let's not forget Mike. The Eagles game
- 1:33not just one for backup running back. Two draft picks,
- 1:36albeit your third day, fifth and sixth round picks, Mike.
- 1:39That's a lot for a guy now. But he'll also
- 1:41do in addition to getting work one ship that comes back,
- 1:45getting work behind Shipley because that's really what his role is,
- 1:48to ride death to Shipley right now, it's not healthy
- 1:50get the rib injury. Also, the guy now, he hadn't
- 1:53done a lot in the pros, but the Eagles really
- 1:56like Tank fix beyond kickof returns two years ago, only
- 1:59had less than a dozen, but his average was really high.
- 2:03And by the way, Shipley has been one of their
- 2:04kickoff returners, so they need to do that and that's
- 2:07what they're gonna do. I know it's surprised with people.
- 2:09I know their fans that said, what two draft picks,
- 2:13this guy's going to take Shipley's job. That's not why
- 2:16they did this. Shipley, Mike right now is hurt. That's
- 2:19why they did this. And Shipley. Look, he's explosive, Mike.
- 2:23He saw that running catch. That was a great play.
- 2:27And Fixby Mike is really strong and he's a little
- 2:30bit more explosive. We talked to Greg co Sell about him.
- 2:34We're dropping a show later this week where we break
- 2:37down the Cowboys tape with Greg. We dropped the defensive
- 2:39tape today, we're dropping the offensive tape. I think Thursday morning.
- 2:44We go tomorrow Thursday morning. But Mike, he really likes
- 2:47Fixby and the Goals have a lot of draft picks
- 2:50for next year, and this is what they did with them.
- 2:52Speaker 1: By the way, Adam Schefter just tweeted out the NFL
- 2:56is fining Jalen Carter fifty seven, two d and twenty
- 3:00two dollars for spitting on Dak Prescott. They said the
- 3:04game that he was ejected from will serve as a
- 3:07one game suspension, so Carter will pay fifty twenty two
- 3:13dollars and he will play for the Eagles on Sunday.
- 3:16Any's surprise. There no but here.
- 3:19Speaker 2: Here, let me just explain where j Rosenhaus's his agent
- 3:23cover from Carter didn't play. He was disqualified for the
- 3:28game before kickoff. But okay, but for the game started.
- 3:34But here's the thing. He got paid for the game.
- 3:36That's why they didn't appeal. Okay, that that's the whole
- 3:40thing here, The fact that all he now, well, we
- 3:42don't know. Maybe it'll be reported, Maybe we'll find out.
- 3:45We've found out over the years when they've disciplined players.
- 3:49There's gonna be some sort of discipline. Sirianni said it
- 3:51more than once. He wouldn't say what it's going to be.
- 3:53Now if it's the oh, he won't start the game,
- 3:55and that's a that's what we call like a token,
- 4:00hey slapping the risks. You know, Hey, you won't to
- 4:02start the game. But it's a sign that hey, we
- 4:05don't we don't up stepped away what you did. You
- 4:08got thrown out. But the bottom line is, Mike, you
- 4:11got to send a message. Whatever is legal with the CBA.
- 4:18The CBA has changed a little bit from what you
- 4:19could actually do for a player to a player, but
- 4:22there he's got to be sent a message. Just say,
- 4:24I said this to Jeff and our show that dropped yesterday.
- 4:26What if this had been a playoff game.
- 4:28Speaker 1: Mike, Yeah, absolutely So the Eagles, you know kind of
- 4:34you know, they kind of make out here, right, I
- 4:36mean they won the game. They didn't play and find
- 4:39an arbitrary What I guess this is it's in the CBA.
- 4:44Speaker 2: That's the number, right, because that's the first I don't
- 4:47have it in front of me, but that number is
- 4:50exactly in the CBA. And I think for a first time,
- 4:52if for a first offense, Yeah, it's I've read those
- 4:56fine letters. They are actually kind of fun. They're kind
- 4:58of harsh sometimes, but this one is a sportsmanship So
- 5:02I know the argument for people you have to be
- 5:05a Cowboys fan. For people think that artist getting off
- 5:08Scott free, Well, look, I don't disagree, because the NFL
- 5:12made a Claire what's sportsmanship Like, this is our new
- 5:18thing that we're cracking down on him. This is this
- 5:19is this is a pinky on the rest, not a
- 5:22slap on the rest. This is a pinky.
- 5:24Speaker 1: Come on, Yeah, obviously we talked about Bigsby, the thought
- 5:27process there and his fit with this team. Kick returner too.
- 5:32They have made some interesting decisions. They did bring in
- 5:34Zo Darius Smith, and I think on Friday you were
- 5:37live on the air when that happened here. So now
- 5:39you've had some time to kind of look at some things.
- 5:42How will he be used today? Vic Fangio said, Well,
- 5:44I don't really never really see the guy. I know
- 5:46who he is, but I don't know much about him.
- 5:48So what does this mean for the other past rushers
- 5:50and how do you see him fitting in?
- 5:52Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's what we call it power rusher, but
- 5:55now we don't know what he weighs. He's listed as
- 5:57two seventy. You know, he has thirty three years old.
- 6:01He's been relatively healthy over his career. I've talked to
- 6:04people have worked with him before. Good leader, good locker
- 6:08room guys. Now he's got strong presence, he's got his opinions.
- 6:12But he's a good football player now, Mike, he had
- 6:15a good season.
- 6:17Speaker 1: You know that.
- 6:17Speaker 2: The thing was, you know, Detroit acquired him because the
- 6:20Browns were bad and he helped them. They needed him.
- 6:23Now they cut him. They didn't want to pay him,
- 6:25but they had interested. I'm told I'm bringing it back.
- 6:28He goes beat him for the punch and by the way,
- 6:30the lies pass rush is really not there. That's one
- 6:32of the reasons why I picked the Packers three weeks
- 6:35ago when I had to turned these picks in to
- 6:37when they it is be NFC North. So yeah, I
- 6:40love this move.
- 6:41Speaker 1: Now.
- 6:42Speaker 2: Again, he hasn't played since January. Let's just understand you're
- 6:48over nine months here. Who knows what kind of physical
- 6:50shape he's in. That's what Fangio is saying. It all
- 6:54sounds good now. The Robert Quinns thing that people brought up,
- 6:57remember Robert Quinn Egos didn't know about it. He wasn't
- 7:00he passed the physical. He had a knee problem and
- 7:03a back problem. He looked he was toast after that. Mike,
- 7:06I don't even know that he played again if he
- 7:08played for the Eagles. So this is different unless something
- 7:12we didn't know how comes up. He's healthy and he
- 7:15passed the physical. He didn't have anything previous that he
- 7:19got here. Robert Coin previously had something and then it
- 7:22flared up again, the back problem. So I love the move.
- 7:26This is and it's all he had to give up
- 7:28a draft pick for him because he was a straight
- 7:30free agent. Because he was he was released. This is
- 7:33a smart move, and it's one that you typically do
- 7:36after week one, so you don't guarantee all the money.
- 7:38Speaker 1: All right, Adam Kaplan football at four here on the
- 7:40Sports Batch, I do want to get a couple of
- 7:41quick things before you got to get out of here.
- 7:43Today won Today. Fangio did say Dori Jackson will play,
- 7:47but he did really hammer home that they want Cooper
- 7:51Dezine in the nickel. Like that scene, to me was
- 7:54one of the big things, was that he was asked
- 7:55about Cooper because they did bring Mike Hilton in here,
- 7:58a veteran player who has played primarily in the slot,
- 8:01and he was asked about where they prefer if they
- 8:05would think about moving him out there, and he said,
- 8:07we prefer him in the nickel. So I guess it
- 8:10looks like, at least for the short term, a Dorri
- 8:12Jackson is going to be the guy.
- 8:14Speaker 2: Right then Ja Cory and Bennett will Vet should take
- 8:17that job bank and then if that doesn't work, trade
- 8:21this really Oh, I like count surprised they haven't. Now again,
- 8:25we're only in the second week. We're not even in
- 8:28mid September yet. But Kendall Fuller have played for Vick
- 8:31two years ago. He's out there. From everything I've been told,
- 8:34he still wants to place thirty. God can play, and
- 8:36he's had a number of injuries. But yeah, i'd watch that. Understand,
- 8:40Mike Keill is not an outside he's not a cornerback.
- 8:43He's only a nickel. That's it. When he was arguably
- 8:47for for about four or five years, him Kenny Moore
- 8:50were the best nickel defenders. And he's an older player
- 8:54now he's near the end. Yeah. So yeah, if you
- 8:58follow me on Twitter, I I did tweet all the workouts.
- 9:01How about the working out Kus Watkins? That made me laugh?
- 9:04How about that one?
- 9:05Speaker 1: I know I saw that and I was like, interesting
- 9:08that an old REUNI with Quez Watkins there. But you know,
- 9:12I was gonna say they they're probably pretty happy with
- 9:14their wide receiving core right now.
- 9:17Speaker 2: Yeah, but see, I'm glad you bought this up. So
- 9:19let me go in such football here, most workouts have
- 9:22nothing to do with what's currently going on. They're called
- 9:25emergency list if because what happens Mike on these workouts
- 9:29two things happen, you take it physical, and you can
- 9:34tape the workouts. So let's say let's say, okay, let's extrapolate.
- 9:39Let's say the Jeans suffers at that countries out two weeks.
- 9:43Let's say Vic is not ready, but Mac McWilliams as
- 9:47the nickel and he doesn't feel like anyone else could
- 9:49do it. You have already worked out Mike Hilton got
- 9:53you taped his workout. He's already passed your physical. You
- 9:57saw him run. You have all the information you need.
- 10:01So all you need to do is it's either in house,
- 10:06will you go out and sign a guy like Mike Kiln.
- 10:08That's why you work these guys out. Mike, We'll oft
- 10:11or not. It doesn't have to do it anything currently.
- 10:13It's what if somebody gets hurt. It's this guy ready
- 10:16to go, and Mike Hilton everything I've been total, he's healthy,
- 10:19ready to go, right.
- 10:20Speaker 1: Uh, And I know the injury report not out yet.
- 10:22They don't they play on Sunday, They don't come out tomorrow.
- 10:24But uh, I'll be interested to see what's going on
- 10:26with Landon Dickerson. He obviously could not finish the game. Uh.
- 10:29If the Eagles, Uh, will have to go to a
- 10:31left guard because I want the thing I wanted to ask,
- 10:33not about Dickerson's availability, but Brett Toath was the first
- 10:36guy in there. We are you surprised by that?
- 10:39Speaker 2: No, once we saw Dylan McMahon, what's not active and
- 10:43Matt Matt prior Mike. See, the thing is, it wouldn't
- 10:47be fair to him. He barely practiced that left guard.
- 10:50You never played it before they two or three days
- 10:53he started working there. But it's one of more cuffor
- 10:56right tackle and right guard. Brett Johnson's the backup left
- 11:00priors to back up right. I for the life of me,
- 11:03now you talk about workouts, that's the one position they
- 11:06haven't worked any veterans at left guard. I don't know
- 11:08why now got a sign that Dickerson might be ready. Maybe,
- 11:12but we know that Staltlin is absolutely loved Breck Toast.
- 11:16We could all disagree. Dat's got better information than everyone
- 11:20listening to you and I, but it is what it is.
- 11:22It's stute trust if he thinks the kid could do it,
- 11:26been on and off the roster for six years, Mike,
- 11:29he's the backup left guard for now.
- 11:31Speaker 1: I feel like there's always that guy on every team
- 11:34that just comes, goes, comes, goes, comes, goes. You know,
- 11:36it's like if the Eagles that have had a bunch
- 11:38of the guys, especially offensive linemen, that just are always
- 11:41kind of the old, faithful.
- 11:43Speaker 2: Julian VANDERVELTI, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was the I don't know,
- 11:49so I came up with his term roster tango about
- 11:52eight years Agohen Jeff and I started the company. It
- 11:55was because of him. I don't have it in front
- 11:57of me, but it might have been fourteen times. He
- 11:59was kind some ridiculous number and I'm amazed that an
- 12:04agent will put up with it because agents don't get
- 12:07paid on practice squad deals. They have to be on
- 12:10the fifty three. So yeah, now if he gets a
- 12:12game check, agent gets money. But that Julian VANDERVELTI was
- 12:15an incredible story man. It there have been. And then
- 12:18there was a punter named Brock Miller who's the bry
- 12:21Up punter for a number of years. He never would
- 12:23really sign with a team. He would rarely did. He
- 12:26was just the guy that because he's a left footed punter,
- 12:29they want to see the spin off the guy's left foot.
- 12:31He goes brought him in before It's it's fun. These
- 12:33workouts make me laugh sometimes.
- 12:34Speaker 1: I think I think you were the one that said
- 12:37the other day how impressed you were with Braiden Man.
- 12:40Speaker 2: He's he is. I got I'm gonna see Sean Lindetta
- 12:43a tonight at an event the former Eagles putter two
- 12:46times egos punter, and I want to ask Sean about
- 12:48Braiden Man. He had any reporter Andrew to Checko knows,
- 12:51so does Jeff. I gotta tell you, Braiden Man had
- 12:54at one of the best trending camps I've ever seen
- 12:56for punter. I never know what it means because when
- 12:59you get to it, when you get to when they
- 13:01say the live bullet slide, you got to see how
- 13:04the guy does. Holy smokes, Mike, he was incredible. On
- 13:07Sunday they what boy Feelers have went through a number
- 13:11of putters, like three putters since they cut him. I'm
- 13:15I'm I'm surprised if the series got rid of him.
- 13:17The jet Stubber should have cut him. He's a good putter.
- 13:20How he got that one? I I that was a
- 13:22good move by Howie a couple of years ago to
- 13:23get trade Man.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Well, obviously, there's the big news. That's the breaking news.
- 13:27The NFL will find Jalen Carter fifty and twenty two
- 13:30dollars for spinning on Dak Prescott. He will not be
- 13:32suspended the game that he set out that serves as
- 13:36his suspension. He's Adam Kaplan. This is Football at four.
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